I ADJOURN THIS MEETING AND THEN I'M GOING INTO A NEW MEETING AND I'M GOING TO DO THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE. [ CALL TO ORDER] [00:00:09] [LAUGHTER]. I NEVER GET TO. I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. JAYME CAN YOU DO THE ROLL CALL, PLEASE? CHAIR COMPTON. HERE. VICE CHAIR CHECK. YES, HERE. SUPERVISOR JENKINS. HERE. SUPERVISOR KUKNYO. HERE. SUPERVISOR MALLORY. YES. YOU HAVE A QUORUM. THANK YOU. MR. BOURDON. ACTION 1. CHAIRMAN, MEMBERS OF THE BOARD. THIS ITEM IS A DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION ON LEGISLATIVE PROPOSALS FOR THE 2027 LEGISLATIVE SESSION. [1. Board of Supervisors - Discussion and possible action on legislative proposals for the 2027 Legislative Session.] AS YOU'RE AWARE, YOU'LL BE ATTENDING THE COUNTY SUPERVISORS ASSOCIATION LEGISLATIVE SUMMIT IN OCTOBER. THAT'S OCTOBER 6TH THROUGH 8TH. AS PART OF THAT, COUNTY'S ARE TASKED, IF THEY WANT TO, TO BRING FORWARD A LEGISLATIVE PROPOSALS THAT THEY MIGHT WANT TO BE CONSIDERED BY THE COUNTY SUPERVISORS ASSOCIATION TO BE PROMOTED AS PART OF THEIR WORK PLAN FOR THE NEXT YEAR. I DO HAVE SEVERAL. I WOULD LIKE TO GO OVER WITH YOU. THE, THE SIX THAT I'M GOING TO FIRST GO OVER. SO I HAVE SIX THAT I WANT TO DISCUSS. AND THEN THERE'S TWO THAT, THAT I ALSO HAVE THAT CAME UPON A LITTLE LATER THAN THE SIX. THE SIX I HAVE BROKEN UP INTO THREE FOR LIBRARY. ONE WAS A PREVIOUS ONE FROM THIS BOARD, A COMPENSATION EQUALIZATION PROPOSAL. THE OTHER WAS FROM THE PUBLIC FIDUCIARY AND ONE FROM THE TREASURER. SO I'M GOING TO JUST GO OVER THE THREE RIGHT NOW FROM THE LIBRARY DISTRICT. THE LIBRARY DISTRICT ASKED FOR THREE ITEMS. ONE WAS INCLUSION OF LIBRARIES FOR STATE TAX CREDITS TO BE ABLE TO RECEIVE STATE TAX CREDITS FROM INDIVIDUAL FILERS. THAT WAS AN OPTION, A PROPOSAL. AND BY THE WAY, I SHOULD SAY I SENT THESE OUT A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO AS PART OF YOUR FRIDAY. BUT AND THEY WERE ATTACHED TO THE AGENDA. THAT. THAT WOULD PROVIDE CREDIT AGAINST TAXES TO BENEFIT FREE PUBLIC LIBRARIES, VERY SIMILAR TO HOW YOU ARE ABLE TO DO RIGHT NOW IN YOUR TAXES, 200 FOR INDIVIDUALS, 400 FOR A MARRIED COUPLE. THERE WAS ALSO ANOTHER ONE FROM THE LIBRARY EXPANSION OF THE STATE IN. STATE-GRANT-IN-AID, WHICH IS A PROGRAM WHERE THEY RECEIVE ABOUT 25. LIBRARY DISTRICTS RECEIVE $25,000 ANNUALLY TOO. AND THEY WANTED TO BUMP THAT UP TO $100,000 ANNUALLY. AGAIN, YOUR LIBRARY DIRECTOR, COREY CHRISTIANS, HAD BROUGHT THESE FORWARD TO ME AND KIND OF SAID THERE'S THINGS HE WOULD LIKE TO ASK. THERE WAS A THIRD. BUT I HAVE TO TELL YOU THAT I ACTUALLY IN DISCUSSION WITH THE LIBRARY DIRECTOR ASKED THAT. I'M ASKING THAT THAT BE REMOVED FROM CONSIDERATION. AND THAT WAS A ELIMINATION OF A TRANSACTION PRIVILEGE TAX FOR LIBRARIES. IN DISCUSSING WITH, THIS WITH CSA, THAT REALLY WOULD GO AGAINST MANY OF THE THINGS THAT THEY HAVE DONE OVER TIME TO TRY TO PROTECT RESOURCES FOR COUNTIES. SO JUST STARTING OUT, THESE WERE THE TWO FROM THE LIBRARY DISTRICT. AND I'D LIKE TO JUST KIND OF GO ALONG IF I CAN AND ASK IF THERE'S ANY QUESTIONS? IS THERE ANY CONCERNS? WOULD THE BOARD LIKE THESE TWO FORWARDED THE CSA? AND THE COMMENT I WOULD MAKE IS WHEN TALKING TO CSA, THEY WOULD PROBABLY WORK WITH THE LIBRARY ASSOCIATION ON THIS. SO YOU MAY SEE IT COME THROUGH CSA AND ALSO BE A KIND OF A DIVERSION TO THE LIBRARY ASSOCIATION. BUT IF YOU'RE OKAY, I WILL FORWARD THOSE TWO. BOARD I'M A YES. OKAY AND ON THE LIST OF UPCOMING ONES IS SHORT TERM RENTALS. ARE YOU GOING TO TALK ABOUT THAT? YES. OKAY. VERY GOOD. THANK YOU. I'M GOING TO GO OVER THE COMP. SORRY, THE PUBLIC FIDUCIARY, THE PUBLIC FIDUCIARY APPROACHED ME AND WROTE WITH THEIR ATTORNEY A PROPOSAL. BECAUSE THERE'S A RECENT ISSUE WITH A COURT CASE, THE TSOSIE COURT CASE, AND THEY'RE HOPING TO GET SOME ADDITIONAL LANGUAGE IN STATUTE THAT WOULD RESOLVE THE ISSUE OF NOT HAVING ANY ABILITY TO ELIMINATE GUARDIANSHIPS WHEN THAT APPOINTMENT WOULD BE FUTILE IS THE TERM THAT THEY'RE USING BASICALLY AN APPOINTMENT THAT THEY, THEY CAN'T CONTROL THE INDIVIDUAL, THEY HAVE NO CONTROL OVER THEM, BUT YET THEY'RE RESPONSIBLE FOR THEM AND THEY SEE THAT AS A LIABILITY ISSUE. AND SO THE PUBLIC FIDUCIARY, BECAUSE OF THIS ISSUE, CAME TO ME AND SAID, THIS IS SOMETHING. AND THEY WORKED WITH THEIR ATTORNEY, THIS PROPOSED LANGUAGE THAT WAS ATTACHED TO SAY THIS WAS SOMETHING STATE STATUTE THEY'D LIKE TO PROPOSE FOR CSA TO TAKE UP. [00:05:10] ANY QUESTIONS ON THAT? NO. THAT SOUNDS LIKE A GOOD PROPOSAL. CHAIR BROOKS AND I TALKED ABOUT THIS. THIS IS ONE THAT WAS CONSIDERED LAST YEAR AT CSA. I THINK THAT THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY. WHAT THIS WAS IS TO TAKE THE THRESHOLD OF ELECTED OFFICIALS AND THEIR, THEIR SALARIES INSTEAD OF THE THRESHOLD BEING $500,000, WHICH IS AN INCREASING MANNER FOR THAT SALARY AND BRING THAT DOWN TO COUNTIES OVER $200,000. I'D JUST SAY TO THE BOARD, I'VE HAD EXCELLENT CONVERSATIONS WITH. IN REFERENCE TO ACO IN TERMS OF CRAIG SULLIVAN, MICHELLE BURCHILL, CHIP DAVIS, EVERYBODY TO MOVE THIS FORWARD IN A MORE UNIFIED MANNER BECAUSE THIS WAS ALWAYS VERY LATE LAST YEAR. SO THAT'S WHAT I'M ATTEMPTING TO DO. AND I'VE HAD EXCELLENT RESPONSE. AND CHAIR, I THINK LAST YEAR, YOU KNOW, IT WAS QUICKLY A LAST MINUTE THING. WE GOT IT ON THERE. AND I THINK THE RESPONSE FROM THE BOARD OF SO THAT'S A YES FOR ME. IF THE BOARD. THAT'S GREAT. I CAN'T SUPPORT THIS UNLESS WE AMEND IT A LITTLE BIT, BECAUSE I THINK I SEE BUMPING UP THE ASSESSOR, THE RECORDER, THE SUPERINTENDENT AND THE TREASURER. BUT I THINK IF WE'RE GOING OUT AND ASKING FOR NEW TAXATION IN TWO DIFFERENT AREAS, I DON'T THINK IT'S RIGHT TO GIVE US A RAISE. WELL, IT'S FOUR TO. 4 TO 1. AND DO YOU HAVE AND WE'RE ALL INCLUDED IN THE SAME STATUTE. YOU CAN'T SEPARATE IT. AND ESPECIALLY WHEN WE MAKE WHAT WE DO AND OUR STATE REPRESENTATIVES EVEN MAKE $24,000 A YEAR. SO YEAH, I RESPECT THE INTENT, BUT I THINK IT'S BAD TIMING TO DO THIS WITH US INVOLVED. MAY I SPEAK JUST A LITTLE BIT TO THIS? I MEAN, I THINK THE ASSUMPTION IS A. THAT COUNTIES WITH A LARGER POPULATION MIGHT HAVE A LARGER WORKLOAD. I THINK THAT ASSUMPTION IS SLIGHTLY FLAWED, AND THE ASSUMPTION THAT URBAN AREAS ARE MORE EXPENSIVE TO LIVE IN. AND THAT'S CERTAINLY NOT, YOU KNOW, COMPARABLE TO MY DISTRICT WHERE THE COST OF LIVING IS ACTUALLY SUBSTANTIALLY MORE THAN WHAT IT WOULD TAKE TO LIVE IN AN URBAN AREA. SO I THINK THAT THOSE ARE THE TWO REASONS WHY I STRONGLY SUPPORT THIS. SO YOU HAVE INTENT. OKAY. THANK YOU. AND I MEAN, IT'S A GOOD DISCUSSION. I THIS IS. THIS IS WHAT THIS IS ABOUT IS TO SEE IF THE BOARD WANTS TO SEND THIS OVER AND THERE'LL BE A DISCUSSION AT CSA ON IT. THANK YOU SIR. EARNS, BE IT STATE REPRESENTATIVE, WHATEVER OFFICE, COUNTY SUPERVISOR. AND I THINK THAT WOULD BE A FAIR THING. BUT I THINK THIS NUMBER IS WAY HIGHER THAN WHAT THE AVERAGE AMOUNT MAKES IN OUR AREA. AND CHAIR. YES SIR. ANY OF THE DISCUSSION IS VALID BECAUSE PLEASE REMEMBER THAT YOUR SALARIES ARE JUST BASED ON AN ARBITRARY STATUTORY FRAMEWORK. IT'S NOT BASED ON. THEY TRY TO SET IT ON POPULATION, BUT THAT DOESN'T THAT DOESN'T DIRECTLY RELATE TO THE AMOUNT OF WORK THAT THESE POSITIONS DO. SO I'M NOT DISAGREEING WITH YOUR POSITION. I'M JUST. AND YOU'LL BE ABLE TO. THE GREAT PART ABOUT COUNTY SUPERVISORS ASSOCIATION IS YOU ALL ARE INDIVIDUAL MEMBERS AND YOU VOTE INDIVIDUALLY. SO EVEN THOUGH THIS MAY PROCEED, YOU WILL HAVE YOUR ABILITY TO DISCUSS AND AMEND AS YOU PROCEED THROUGH ALL THESE ITEMS AS THEY GO THROUGH CSA. THANK YOU. THE, THE LAST OF THE SIX THAT WERE ON THE AGENDA. I'LL THEN GO OVER THE OTHER TWO. THE LAST OF THE SIX IS SOMETHING FROM THE TREASURER ACTUALLY. THE TREASURER SUBMITTED IT AGAIN WITH HIS ATTORNEY'S HELP BECAUSE JUST FROM FOR INFORMATIONAL PURPOSES, I SENT THIS OUT TO DEPARTMENT HEADS, AND THEN SEVERAL OF THEM RESPONDED THROUGH WITH THEIR ATTORNEYS AND HAD DISCUSSED IT. THE TREASURER IS NOW ASKING TO BE ALLOWED IN THEIR STATUTORY FRAMEWORK OF CONTRACTING FOR BANKING SERVICES TO INCREASE THE NUMBER OF TWO-YEAR EXTENSIONS TO TWO EXTENSIONS, SO THEY'RE ABLE TO DO A THREE-YEAR CONTRACT WITH A ONE YEAR, TWO-YEAR, ONE TWO-YEAR EXTENSION. HE'S ASKING TO INCREASE VERY STRAIGHTFORWARD, ASKING TO TAKE THAT AND SAY, I WOULD LIKE TWO, TWO-YEAR EXTENSIONS TO THAT THREE. I COULDN'T ARGUE IT UNLESS. NOPE. FINE. YEAH [00:10:03] SO JUST TO SUMMARIZE I'VE, I THANK YOU VERY MUCH. AND THOSE ARE THE SIX THAT I ORIGINALLY HAD PUT ON. THE AGENDA HAD NOT APPROVED THE AGENDA, [LAUGHTER]. THOUGH, FOR THE CLERK. SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR ALLOWING THIS SPECIAL MEETING. I APPRECIATE IT. THERE WERE TWO ITEMS THAT CAME UP AFTER I DEVELOPED THIS AGENDA ITEM. I HAD BEEN WORKING WITH COCONINO COUNTY ON A SHORT-TERM RENTAL ISSUE, TALKING TO SUPERVISOR CHECK AND VICE CHAIR CHECK AND SUPERVISOR MALLORY ON LEGISLATIVE ISSUES. I DID RECEIVE FINALLY TODAY A RESOLUTION THAT THE OR A PROPOSAL FOR A RESOLUTION THAT CS. THAT COCONINO IS GOING TO SUBMIT TO CSA. SO IF THE BOARD'S OKAY, WHAT I WOULD DO IS INFORM CSA AND COCONINO THAT WE WOULD. IT'S THE SAME ONE AS LAST YEAR, AND IT IS TO PROMOTE LEGISLATIVE ITEMS TO, TO PROVIDE LOCAL CONTROL OVER SHORT TERM RENTALS. IT'S NOT SAYING CSA RUN A BILL, IT'S ASKING CSA TO WORK WITH THE LEGISLATURE AND LEAGUE OF CITIES AND TOWNS TO PROMOTE BASICALLY MORE CONTROL LOCAL CONTROL FOR THE SHORT TERM RENTALS. AND IT IS PRETTY MUCH LIKE LAST YEAR. AND SO WHAT I WAS GOING TO SUGGEST, IF THE BOARD IS OKAY AND WOULD ALLOW ME, I WILL INITIATE THIS COUNTY SUPPORT FOR COCONINO'S RESOLUTION. YES, JUST LIKE WE DID LAST YEAR. YES, SIR. YES, SIR. YOU DID LAST YEAR, YOU WERE A YOU WERE A CO-SPONSOR OF THAT RESOLUTION. IF YOU IF YOU GIVE ME THAT AUTHORIZATION BY APPROVING IT TODAY, I WILL LET THEM KNOW. I'LL LET CSA KNOW SO THAT WHEN IT COMES THROUGH, BECAUSE I THINK COCONINO IS JUST MEETING LIKE US RIGHT NOW TO GO OVER THEIR THEIR ISSUES. AND THEY DID LET ME KNOW THIS IS BEING CONSIDERED. DO WE? BECAUSE WE KNOW WHERE THAT GOT STALLED LAST TIME IN THE SENATE WITH THE PERSON I MAY GAVE THAT PERSON A CALL. DID. DO WE HAVE ANYBODY ELSE TO RAISE THE LEVEL OF. SEND THIS THROUGH YOUR COMMITTEE. OH CSA. WELL, ONE, THE GOOD PART ABOUT LEGISLATIVE DISCUSSIONS LIKE THIS IS YOU'LL SEE CSA WILL BECOME MORE AND MORE SUCCESSFUL ANNUALLY IN GETTING THINGS DONE BECAUSE THEY FIND WHERE THOSE LINCHPINS ARE, THE AREAS THAT THEY'RE MEETING RESISTANCE AND THEY NEED TO GO WORK ON. DOES THAT ANSWER YOUR QUESTION? IN OTHER WORDS, THEY ARE. WELL, BECAUSE THEY FLEW THROUGH THE HOUSE, GOT STALLED IN THE SENATE. IT WAS A PERSONALITY CONFLICT THAT KEPT IT FROM GOING, HOW DO WE MAKE OUR VOICES HEARD TO MAKE THAT OVERCOME? WELL, YOU'LL BE EXACTLY. YOU'LL BE CALLED INTO THE SAME ACTIVITIES WE DID LAST YEAR, WHICH IS TO TRY TO HAVE INDIVIDUAL BOARD MEMBERS THROUGHOUT THE STATE ADVOCATING FOR THAT WITH THAT INDIVIDUAL COMMITTEE. THANK YOU. THE LAST ITEM I HAVE. I JUST SAID, OKAY. OH, SORRY SIR. THE LAST ITEM I HAVE AND THEN THE BOARD CAN GIVE ANY OTHER DIRECTION YOU WANT. OUTSIDE LEGAL COUNSEL, OUTSIDE LEGAL SERVICES. ACTUALLY THERE'S THERE'S SOME HISTORY TO THE COUNTY BOARD IS, IS REQUIRED BY STATUTE TO HAVE LEGAL SERVICES, CIVIL LEGAL SERVICES THROUGH THE COUNTY ATTORNEY. AND THERE'S BEEN DISCUSSION OVER TIME MY HISTORY HERE. THERE'S BEEN DISCUSSION A SERIES OF TIMES WITH CSA ON OUTSIDE. AMENDING THAT STATUTE. AND IT'S BEEN OPPOSED MANY TIMES BY COUNTY ATTORNEYS THROUGHOUT THE STATE. RECENTLY WE'VE ACTUALLY HAD LEGAL SERVICES FOR SEVERAL OF THE ELECTED OFFICIALS. YOU KNOW, BASICALLY THE COUNTY ATTORNEY HAS ASKED FOR THOSE SERVICES TO BE NOW PROVIDED BY OUTSIDE LEGAL COUNSEL, NOT PROVIDED BY HIM. AND SO THAT AND SOME OTHER THINGS BROUGHT ME GOING BACK IN TIME. I ACTUALLY JUST WENT TO LAST YEAR TO WHERE ONE OF THE ITEMS THAT CAME THROUGH CSA WAS FOR ALLOWING, COUNTY BOARD OF SUPERVISORS TO SEE OUTSIDE LEGAL COUNSEL. AND I, I LOOKED AT THAT IT WAS BROUGHT UP BY COCHISE COUNTY. IT DIDN'T MOVE FORWARD. AND I THINK AGAIN, IT, IT KIND OF BEGS A FURTHER DISCUSSION. AND I WANTED TO ASK THE BOARD IF WE COULD RESUBMIT THAT. YES. YES. YES, ABSOLUTELY LAST YEAR'S. I ALREADY PUT IN A CALL TO THE COCHISE COUNTY MANAGER. SHE AND I WILL TALK TOMORROW. BUT IF THE BOARD'S OKAY, WHAT I WAS GOING TO DO IS BASICALLY RESUBMIT THIS AND ASK THEM IF THEY TELL THEM THEY'VE [00:15:01] GOT OUR SUPPORT TO AT LEAST PUT IT BACK IN. AND IF THEY DON'T, IF THEY DON'T WANT IT BACK IN, I WOULD SUGGEST WE JUST PUT IT BACK IN FROM YAVAPAI COUNTY. OKAY. YEAH. SOUNDS GOOD. ANYTHING FURTHER? THAT IS ALL I HAD TODAY. IF YOU HAVE ANYTHING FOR ME, I'M HERE TO HELP. WE'RE GOOD. MEETING'S ADJOURNED. THANK YOU. * This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.