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GOOD MORNING EVERYONE. WELCOME TO THE JOINT PLANNING AND ZONING MEETING OF THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS, OBVIOUSLY WITH PLANNING AND ZONING, TODAY IS THURSDAY, MARCH 26TH.
I CALL THIS MEETING TO ORDER. VICE CHAIR CHECK WILL DO THE INVOCATION, AND THEN I'LL DO THE PLEDGE.
JOIN ME IN PRAYER. DEAR LORD, WE'RE THANKFUL FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO GATHER HERE TODAY AND DO THE WORK ON BEHALF OF THE PUBLIC THAT WE'VE BEEN ENTRUSTED TO DO. PLEASE LET US REALIZE THE WEIGHT AND IMPORTANCE OF THESE MATTERS, AND PLEASE LET US DO YOUR WILL AS WE DO OUR ABSOLUTE BEST TO TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION HOW OUR WORK HERE TODAY WILL IMPACT THOSE IN YAVAPAI COUNTY.
HEAVENLY FATHER, PLEASE, PLEASE JUST BE WITH YOUR, BE WITH US HERE TODAY.
NOT ONLY FOR OUR CONSTITUENTS, BUT REALLY LET THIS WORK WITHIN THE GOVERNMENT RESONATE IN A FASHION THAT BRINGS SOME AMOUNT OF HEALING TO THE WORLD. IN JESUS NAME, AMEN. PLEASE JOIN ME.
I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION. WE HAVE A WE HAVE A LAG IN THE INTERNET TODAY.
WELL, I WAS TOLD THAT IN ADVANCE. SO ANYWAYS, CLERK, CAN YOU DO THE ROLL CALL, PLEASE? CHAIR COMPTON. HERE. VICE CHAIR CHECK. HERE. SUPERVISOR JENKINS.
SUPERVISOR KUKNYO. SUPERVISOR MALLORY. YOU HAVE A QUORUM.
IN ADDITION, WE HAVE DISTRICT ONE COMMISSIONER PAIZ.
DISTRICT ONE COMMISSIONER OBERG. DISTRICT TWO.
COMMISSIONER. COTHERN. DISTRICT TWO COMMISSIONER BUCHANAN.
PRESENT. DISTRICT THREE COMMISSIONER RADOCCIA.
PRESENT. DISTRICT THREE, COMMISSIONER GARRISON PRESENT.
ALSO ATTENDING VIRTUALLY, DISTRICT FOUR COMMISSIONER CHERRY.
HERE. DISTRICT FOUR COMMISSIONER EASTWOOD. HERE.
DISTRICT FIVE COMMISSIONER GRIFFIS. PRESENT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH, JAMIE.
[1. Opening Remarks - Board of Supervisors and Planning & Zoning Commission to outline goals as needed.]
OVERVIEW OF THE DEPARTMENT AND WHAT THEY'RE DOING. AND OBVIOUSLY FROM MR. EASTMAN IN REFERENCE TO THE UPDATE FOR OUR SUBDIVISION REGULATIONS AND FOR ALL OF US THEN TO HAVE A JOINT DISCUSSION AT THE END.SO I, AT THIS TIME, I WILL TURN IT OVER TO DEVELOPMENT SERVICES.
OH, I FORGOT ONE THING. I APOLOGIZE IN REFERENCE TO, THANK YOU VICE CHAIR FOR POINTING THAT OUT.
[2. Yavapai County Development Services Department Overview - Presentation by the Yavapai County Development Services Department providing the Board of Supervisors and the Planning & Zoning Commission with an update on departmental operations. The presentation will include an overview of department functions and organizational structure, a summary of recent accomplishments, and a review of current development activity within the County, including relevant data, current year trends and metrics. Staff: Mark Lusson, Assistant Director.]
MY NAME IS MARK LUSSON. I'M THE ASSISTANT DIRECTOR WITH YAVAPAI COUNTY DEVELOPMENT SERVICES.THIS IS AN OPPORTUNITY TO HELP GUIDE OUR CURRENT PROJECT AND TO REALLY GET THIS WHITTLED DOWN.
AS I'VE MENTIONED IN PAST MEETINGS, THIS IS A 60 YEAR OLD DOCUMENT, ALMOST.
THIS IS A BIG UNDERTAKING NOT ONLY FOR STAFF, BUT FOR THE COMMISSION AND THE BOARD AS WELL TO CONSIDER AS WE MOVE FORWARD INTO THE FUTURE AND GUIDING YAVAPAI COUNTY DEVELOPMENT INTO THE FUTURE.
ONE THING I WANT TO SAY IS THIS IS NOT A TASK THAT IS BEING TAKEN LIGHTLY.
AND THIS IS ACTUALLY KIND OF A ONCE IN A CAREER TYPE OPPORTUNITY.
IT'S NOT VERY OFTEN THAT ORGANIZATIONS HAVE, THIS ISN'T A DOCUMENT THAT'S UPDATED ON A REGULAR FIVE YEAR, TEN YEAR BASIS. THIS IS USUALLY A 20, 30, 40 YEAR DOCUMENT THAT GETS UPDATED.
SO I FEEL VERY PRIVILEGED TO BE ABLE TO HAVE A HAND IN THIS.
AND I HOPE ALL YOU DO AS WELL FOR DEVELOPMENT SERVICES, AS YOU ALL KNOW, WE ARE COMPRISED OF SEVEN DIFFERENT DIVISIONS THAT IS ADDRESSING, CODE ENFORCEMENT, CUSTOMER SERVICE AND PERMITTING, BUILDING SAFETY, WHICH DOES OUR PLAN REVIEW AND BUILDING INSPECTIONS, OUR PLANNING DEPARTMENT, OUR ENVIRONMENTAL DEPARTMENT, AND THE DIRECTOR'S OFFICE.
WE HAVE ABOUT 55 EMPLOYEES IN PRESCOTT AND ABOUT 20 EMPLOYEES HERE IN COTTONWOOD.
WE'VE HAD SOME RECENT ACCOMPLISHMENTS THIS PAST YEAR.
ONE OF OUR BIG ONES, WE HAVE A REMOTE VIDEO INSPECTIONS.
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THIS IS A PROGRAM THAT'S REALLY TAKEN OFF OVER THE LAST YEAR, AND WE'RE VERY HAPPY WITH THE RESULTS.AND I HAVE A FEW STATISTICS TO SHARE WITH YOU IN A FEW SLIDES FROM NOW REGARDING THIS, BUT IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE'RE CONTINUING TO GET MORE EDUCATION ON OUT TO THE PUBLIC TO UTILIZE THIS GREAT PROGRAM. WE'VE BEGUN MIGRATION TO A NEW PERMITTING SOFTWARE.
WE'RE CURRENTLY WITH CITIZENSERVE. WE'VE BEEN WITH THEM FOR A LITTLE OVER SIX YEARS.
AS TECHNOLOGY ADVANCES, WE LOOKED AT OTHER SOFTWARE SYSTEMS THAT ARE MORE PERMIT BASED.
WE FOUND ONE WITH OPENGOV. THE BOARD APPROVED THAT BACK IN NOVEMBER.
OUR BUILDING SAFETY TEAM DID A TREMENDOUS JOB IN UNDERTAKING THAT.
WORKING WITH THE OTHER MUNICIPALITIES IN THE AREA TO HAVE A CONGRUENT ADOPTION FOR THOSE CODES.
IT MAKES IT UNIQUE FOR YAVAPAI COUNTY AND THE MUNICIPALITIES WITHIN IT, BECAUSE NOT MANY MUNICIPALITIES WITHIN A COUNTY WILL ADOPT THAT BUILDING CODE AT THE SAME TIME. USUALLY THEY HAVE 4 OR 5 DIFFERENT MUNICIPALITIES ON 2 OR 3 DIFFERENT BUILDING CODE CYCLES.
WE'VE IMPLEMENTED EXPRESS PERMITS THROUGH CITIZENSERVE.
SO WHEN WE'RE GETTING ABOUT 5000 TO 6000 PERMITS A YEAR WE WANT TO ENSURE THAT WE HAVE A STREAMLINED PROCESS OR EXPRESS PERMITTING PROCESS, WE'RE ABLE TO IDENTIFY A HANDFUL OF PERMITS THAT BASICALLY THROUGH THE APPLICATION AND PAYMENT THAT PERMIT GETS ISSUED INSTANTANEOUSLY, WHERE YOU DON'T HAVE TO WAIT FOR ANY REVIEW.
SO WE'LL HAVE PLENTY OF DISCUSSION FOR THAT. SO WE ALL KNOW WHAT THAT'S GOING ON.
WHAT'S GOING ON WITH THAT. OUR COMPREHENSIVE ANALYSIS AND UPDATE TO ALL OF OUR DEPARTMENT FEES.
SO THESE FEES THAT COVER OUR PERMITTING GETS REIMBURSED TO THAT GENERAL FUND.
SO LOOKING AHEAD TO THE NEXT YEAR, WE WANT TO CONTINUE THIS ORDINANCE UPDATE, WITH A COMPLETION DATE ESTIMATED TO BE AROUND NOVEMBER DECEMBER OF 2027. WE WANTED TO CONTINUE OUR MIGRATION TO OPENGOV, AND WE WANT TO HAVE THAT SUCCESSFUL AND BE ABLE TO GO LIVE WITH THAT IN JULY. LAST YEAR, WE HAD AN ISO RATING GET ASSESSED TO THE COUNTY.
WE CAME BACK WITH A SCORE OF THREE. AND THIS IS KIND OF A SCORE THAT'S LIKE GOLF.
MOST MUNICIPALITIES ARE ABOUT A 4 OR 5. SO WE ARE PROUD OF THAT SCORE OF A THREE.
HOWEVER, WE DID LOOK AT SOME OF THE IMPROVEMENTS THAT COULD BE MADE, AND THAT INCLUDED CODE ADOPTION, STAFF CERTIFICATION TRAININGS. SO WE'VE REVAMPED THOSE AREAS AND WE'RE LOOKING TO CONTACT THE ISO TO GET A REEVALUATION AND SEE IF WE CAN IMPROVE THAT SCORE. I WANT TO UPDATE TO OUR SPECIAL EVENT ORDINANCE.
SO THIS IS A PROCESS FOR SPECIAL EVENTS THAT HAPPEN AROUND THE COUNTY AND PARKS.
HOLDING DIFFERENT EVENTS AT LOCATIONS TO WHERE YOU DON'T NEED TO GO THROUGH A FULL PERMITTING PROCESS, BUT IT'S SOMETHING FOR, YOU KNOW, A SATURDAY NIGHT WEDDING AT YOUR HOUSE THAT INVOLVES MORE THAN 50 PEOPLE GETTING A TEMPORARY LIQUOR LICENSE TO HOLD A SPECIAL EVENT AT A PARKING LOT FOR LIKE A BEER FESTIVAL OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
SO THESE SPECIAL EVENTS PERMITS, THEY COME UP WE'RE ABLE TO HANDLE THEM WITHIN THE DEPARTMENT.
IT'S A QUICK REVIEW, BUT WE WANT TO KIND OF UPDATE THAT LANGUAGE BECAUSE WE ARE GETTING SOME MORE UNIQUE EVENTS THAT ARE COMING UP WITH K-9 TRAINING DIFFERENT THINGS LIKE THAT, THAT WE JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE THE RIGHT PROCESSES FOR INSURANCE, INDEMNIFICATION AND WHATNOT. WE WANT TO REEVALUATE DEPARTMENT PROCESSES AND POLICIES.
SO WE WANT TO LOOK AT WAYS THAT WE CAN CONTINUE TO STREAMLINE AND IMPROVE OUR OPERATIONS.
WE'RE LOOKING AT DIFFERENT TECHNOLOGIES AND PRIORITIZING THOSE TO HELP WITH THE INTAKE OF PERMITS, GETTING THOSE PERMIT REVIEW TIMES BACK DOWN TO AROUND A TWO WEEK MARK.
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WITH OUR CURRENT PROCESSES, WE ARE GETTING INUNDATED WITH INFLUX, ESPECIALLY NOW WITH SPRINGTIME INFLUX OF PERMITS THAT ARE COMING IN.SO WE WANT TO FIND ANY WAY THAT CAN HELP US LOWER THOSE REVIEW TIMES.
CERTAINLY. OF COURSE. FEEL FREE TO SPEAK UP ANYTIME.
THANK YOU CHAIRMAN. SO MARK, CAN YOU TELL ME WHERE ARE WE AT IN THE PROCESS? LIKE HOW IF YOU SAID YOU'D LIKE TO GET BACK TO TWO WEEKS, DID YOU WHERE ARE WE AT AS FAR AS THESE PERMITS ARE GOING AT RIGHT NOW? OUR GOAL IS ALWAYS KIND OF BEEN LONG STANDING OF A 2 TO 3 WEEK TURNAROUND ON OUR BUILDING SAFETY REVIEW.
RIGHT NOW, WITH THE INFLUX OF APPLICATIONS THAT WE'VE RECEIVED IN THE LAST MONTH OR SO, WE ARE KIND OF FALLING BACK TO ABOUT A FOUR WEEK TURNAROUND. SO WE ARE LOOKING AT DIFFERENT WAYS TO CONTINUE TO STRATEGIZE TO GET THAT BACK UP TO THAT 2 TO 3 WEEK GOAL THAT WE SET FOR OURSELVES.
NOW WE HAVE EXPLORED WITH OPENGOV. THEY DO HAVE A CAPABILITY TO IMPLEMENT AN AI TYPE FEATURE WITHIN THE PERMITTING INTAKE, WHICH COULD BASICALLY THE WAY IT WORKS, IT WOULD EVALUATE EVERYTHING TO MAKE SURE THAT THE APPLICATION IS COMPLETE. SO THAT WAY IF IT'S NOT, IT GETS SENT RIGHT BACK TO THE APPLICANT TO FILL IN THOSE MISSING COMPONENTS.
AND THEN WE'RE ABLE TO PROCESS IT BECAUSE ONE OF THE THINGS THAT HAS HELD US UP AT A FEW POINTS IS, YOU KNOW, THAT BACK AND FORTH TO GET THE COMPLETE APPLICATION FROM THE APPLICANT.
BUT WHEN YOU REFERENCE TO AI OR THINGS LIKE THAT, I MEAN.
I'M SURE ALL THIS NEWEST TECHNOLOGY IS GREAT, YOU KNOW, BUT STILL, WE WANT WE WANT TO MAKE SURE WE'RE DOING CUSTOMER SERVICE, I GUESS IS REALLY MY MAIN CONCERN. YES. SUPERVISOR MALLORY.
SOMETIMES THESE PROCESSES ARE ALREADY PRETTY COMPLICATED.
AND SO JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE WE'RE AVAILABLE.
IF THEY HAVE PROBLEMS WITH THESE NEW STEPS, WE'RE GOING.
COMMISSIONER RADOCCIA. YEAH. HEY, MARK. GOOD MORNING.
ON YOUR PERMIT TURNAROUND TIME, THAT 3 TO 4 WEEKS IS RESIDENTIAL, NOT COMMERCIAL.
IS THAT CORRECT? COMMISSIONER RADOCCIA THAT IS CORRECT.
THANK YOU. CAN YOU GIVE US A LITTLE? ESPECIALLY ME.
CAN YOU GIVE ME A LITTLE MORE UPDATE ON THE COMMERCIAL SIDE IN TERMS OF TURNAROUND? ON THE COMMERCIAL SIDE, THAT IS DEPENDENT ON THE SIZE OF THE COMMERCIAL PROJECT, A SMALLER COMMERCIAL IS BEING ABOUT A 5 TO 6 WEEK TURNAROUND.
THE BIGGER COMMERCIAL PROJECTS ARE ABOUT A 6 TO 7 WEEK TURNAROUND.
WHAT'S THE GOAL? COMMERCIAL GOAL ON COMMERCIAL WOULD BE FOUR WEEKS OR LESS.
MR. CHAIR. THANK YOU SIR. TO MARK. THANK YOU, MR. LUSSON. I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A STATEMENT THAT AN APPLICATION DOES NOT HAVE TO BE COMPLETE AND HAVE IT SENT BACK TO THE APPLICANT. THERE ARE CERTAIN COMPONENTS OF AN APPLICATION WHERE YOU CAN STILL PROCESS IT AND REQUEST THE INFORMATION TO COME THROUGH AT A LATER DATE. SO I WOULD HOPE THAT APPLICATIONS ARE BEING LOOKED AT IT IN THAT ARENA.
THANK YOU SO MUCH. FEEL FREE MARK. DEVELOPMENT SERVICES HAS BEEN BUSIER THAN EVER.
WE ARE JUST COMING TO THE CLOSE OF OUR THIRD BUSIEST YEAR IN THE LAST 20 YEARS.
PERMIT ACTIVITY IS NO PUN INTENDED THROUGH THE ROOF RIGHT NOW.
BUT THAT'S INDICATIVE OF A STRONG HOUSING MARKET.
SO YAVAPAI COUNTY IS NO LONGER THE SECRET COUNTY OF ARIZONA.
PEOPLE ARE [INAUDIBLE] THAT IT IS HERE. STREAMING.
AS I STATED IN THE BEGINNING, WE ARE HAVING SOME PROBLEMS WITH STREAMING, SO BEAR WITH US.
GO AHEAD. NO WORRIES. PERMIT IS AN IMPORTANT METRIC IN DETERMINING FUTURE PROPERTY TAX AND SALES TAX AND ALSO INSURANCE, GOING BACK TO THE ISO RATING THAT DOES AFFECT HOMEOWNERS INSURANCE.
PERMITS ARE AN INDICATOR OF THE REINVESTMENT BACK INTO PRIMARY HOMES.
AND DESPITE, YOU KNOW, HAVING 500 SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENCES BUILT OR PERMITS ISSUED THIS LAST YEAR,
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WE STILL HAVE A FEW THOUSAND OTHER PERMITS THAT JUST SHOW THAT PEOPLE ARE TAKING CARE OF THEIR HOMES AND THEY'RE REINVESTING IN THEIR PROPERTIES, WHICH IS A GREAT THING FOR ALL OF THE COMMUNITIES.RIGHT. GOOD MORNING MARK. IN, IN A PREVIOUS JOINT SESSION, WE WERE ADDRESSING HOUSING SHORTAGES.
DO YOU HAVE A, AN ESTIMATE OR AN IDEA OF HOW THIS IS IMPACTING THAT SHORTAGE? YOU KNOW, CAN YOU KIND OF GIVE US A GAUGE OF HOW WE'RE HOW WE'RE DOING THERE BECAUSE WE WERE, I THINK I THINK THE NUMBER WAS ABOUT 8000, 9000 SHORT IN THE COUNTY OF HOUSING UNITS.
AND BASED ON YOUR YOUR STATEMENTS HERE, WE'RE STARTING TO HIT THAT ADDRESS THAT.
DO YOU HAVE ANY IDEA WHERE WE'RE AT? COMMISSIONER PAIZ AS FAR AS FILLING THAT GAP BETWEEN OUR HOUSING SHORTAGE AND THE HOMES THAT ARE BEING BUILT, ANY PERMIT FOR NEW HOUSING IS DEFINITELY A STEP TOWARDS FILLING THAT GAP OF OUR HOUSING SHORTAGE. WE'RE DOING OUR PART WITH THE STUDY THAT'S COME ABOUT AND WITH ALSO CREATING CONTRACTS WITH OTHER MUNICIPALITIES FOR OUR HOME AND MY OWN PROGRAM, WHICH IS A, A FREE PLANS DESIGN FOR SIX DIFFERENT HOUSING DESIGNS THAT THE COUNTY PAID THE BILL FOR TO GET DESIGNED AND IS FREE TO ANY COUNTY RESIDENT OR RESIDENT OF ANY OF THE MUNICIPALITIES THAT WE GOT THAT AGREEMENT WITH, AND I HAVE A BRIEF SLIDE ON THAT COMING UP.
OKAY. THANK YOU. YES, SURE. SUPERVISOR. JUST MAKE A COMMENT.
WE CONTINUE TO HAVE MORE PEOPLE MOVE INTO YAVAPAI COUNTY.
I DON'T KNOW THAT WE'LL EVER HAVE PARITY. WE WE DO THE BEST WE CAN.
BUT I DO THINK IT'S A MOVING TARGET THAT WE'RE GOING TO CONTINUE TO FACE IN YAVAPAI COUNTY.
MR. CHAIR. THANK YOU SIR. I FOUND THAT THIS IS AN INTERESTING STATISTIC THAT I THINK TARA IS HERE. YES. THANK YOU. SHE HELPED ME UNCOVER THIS THAT THROUGH 2025, THROUGH MARCH OF 2026, THE COUNTY HAS PULLED AND ISSUED 54 PERMITS ON GUEST HOMES SLASH ADUS. AND I THINK THAT'S A PRETTY IMPRESSIVE NUMBER, WHICH MAYBE GUIDES US THAT WE SHOULD START TO REALLY SUPPORT AND EDUCATE ON ADUS TO BRING IN ANOTHER HOUSING COMPONENT.
BUT TARA, THANK YOU FOR GUIDING ME THROUGH THE THE IT NIGHTMARE.
THANK YOU. SANDY. SO AS I MENTIONED EARLIER, WE ARE COMING OFF OF OUR THIRD BUSIEST YEAR. THIS IS A GRAPH OF THE LAST 20 PLUS YEARS SHOWING OUR SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENCE PERMITS BEING ISSUED. SO AS YOU CAN SEE, OUR BIGGEST YEAR, OUR RECORD YEAR BACK IN 21-22 WITH 624 PERMITS, AND AS THAT TAPERED OFF IN THE 22-23, IT DECREASED TO 533.
WE DID HAVE A LITTLE BIT STEEPER DECLINE LAST YEAR, BUT THIS CURRENT YEAR WE'RE AT 500.
SO OUR THIRD BUSIEST YEAR FOR SINGLE FAMILY PERMITS IN THE LAST 20 PLUS YEARS.
WE HAVE UPDATED THEM TO MEET THE 24 CODES. ORIGINALLY THEY WERE AT THE 2018 CODES.
WE DID GET THAT IN OUR BUDGET THIS PAST YEAR, KNOWING THAT WE WERE MOVING FORWARD WITH THE ADOPTION OF THE 24 CODE, WE SENT THAT BACK TO THE ENGINEER OF RECORD. THEY WERE ABLE TO UPDATE THOSE BASED ON THOSE 24 CODE CALCULATIONS.
SO THIS IS A PROGRAM THAT STARTED BACK IN LATE 2019, EARLY 2020.
BY HAPPENSTANCE, PRIOR TO COVID, COVID DIDN'T HAVE ANY DRIVING FORCE BEHIND THAT.
SOMETIMES PEOPLE ASSOCIATE THAT YEAR WITH THAT.
BUT NO, WE ACTUALLY HAD US IN LINE FOR EDUCATORS TO GET MORE AFFORDABLE HOMES TO EDUCATORS BECAUSE YAVAPAI COUNTY WAS HAVING A PROBLEM HIRING AND RETAINING TEACHERS WITHIN, WITHIN THE COUNTY BECAUSE OF THE COST OF LIVING.
SO WE WORKED WITH THE SCHOOL SUPERINTENDENT TO GET THIS PROGRAM STARTED.
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WE KIND OF TOOK IT UNDER OUR WING AND KIND OF TOOK IT TO THE NEXT LEVEL AND GOT THESE ORIGINAL THREE HOME PLANS DESIGNED WITH THE POPULARITY OF IT AND THE RECOGNITION THAT WE GOT THROUGHOUT OTHER COUNTIES AND THE STATE, WE WANTED TO EXPAND IT TO NOW SIX DIFFERENT FLOOR PLANS THAT WE HAVE FOR FREE FOR RESIDENTS OF YAVAPAI COUNTY. TO DATE, WE'VE HAD 158 APPLICATIONS IN TOTAL APPLIED FOR THROUGH THE COUNTY.WE HAVE ENTERED INTO AGREEMENTS WITH THE CITY OF PRESCOTT, THE TOWN OF PRESCOTT VALLEY RECENTLY, THE TOWN OF CHINO VALLEY, AND PROBABLY ONE OF OUR FIRST ONES WAS, WAS THE TOWN OF CLARKDALE.
JUST BECAUSE IT'S BEEN UP TO TWO YEARS, DEPENDING ON WHICH MUNICIPALITY WE GOT THAT AGREEMENT WITH.
I DID REACH OUT TO EACH OF THEM TO SEE ANY FORWARD MOVEMENT THAT THEY'VE HAD.
PRESCOTT IS THE NEWEST ONE. THEY'VE HAD A FEW INQUIRIES, BUT NO APPLICATIONS SUBMITTED AS OF YET.
PRESCOTT VALLEY HAS HAD ONE PERMIT ISSUED, BUT THEY HAVEN'T DONE ANY INSPECTIONS OR BUILDS YET.
OUR OTHER THING WITH OUR VIDEO INSPECTIONS, AS I MENTIONED BEFORE, THIS IS ENABLING US TO GET TO OUR CUSTOMERS IN A QUICKER RESPONSE TIME FOR WHEN THEY NEED THOSE INSPECTIONS, ESPECIALLY IN THE MORE RURAL AREAS.
SO WE'VE SAVED 12,000 MILES ON OUR TRUCKS AND OUR BUILDING SAFETY TEAM.
THEY TRAVEL ABOUT 250,000 MILES A YEAR. SO TO SAVE 12,000 MILES, JUST TO KIND OF START OFF, IS A PRETTY BIG SAVINGS. AND THEN THE NUMBER OF STAFF TRAVEL TIME.
SO THIS IS WINDSHIELD TIME THAT STAFF IS GOING FROM OUR OFFICE TO WICKENBURG, OUR OFFICE TO ASH FORK OR SELIGMAN, THESE MORE RURAL AREAS, WE'VE SAVED OVER 264 HOURS OF TRAVEL TIME.
SO THAT'S WHEN YOU GET DOWN TO THE BRASS TACKS OF IT.
THAT IS ALL I HAVE, CHAIRMAN. THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MARK.
I JUST OPEN IT UP TO QUESTIONS. SANDY, YOU'RE PRESSING YOUR BUTTON.
I CAN SEE IT ALREADY. YOU HAVE MORE FACTS OR SOMETHING? IS THAT ABOUT IT? NO, BUT THAT WAS A PRETTY INTERESTING FACT, DON'T YOU THINK? YES IT WAS. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. CHAIR. I'D LIKE TO DEFER BACK TO MR. LUSSON FOR ONE MORE COMMENT. WHEN YOU GO TO THE MIGRATION OF THE NEW PERMITTING SOFTWARE.
I WOULD LIKE TO REQUEST THAT YOU BRING THE INDUSTRY IN FOR BETA TESTING PRIOR TO GOING LIVE, PLEASE. WE WILL HAVE OPPORTUNITIES, COMMISSIONER GRIFFIS, TO DO SOME BETA TESTING, SO WE'LL DEFINITELY GIVE YOU A TEST DRIVE.
THANK YOU, MR. LUSSON. VICE CHAIR CHECK. ONE NOTE NOW THAT ADUS HAVE REALLY CHANGED THE USE OF A SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENCE, ONE BATTLE THAT WE'VE SORT OF WORKED AGAINST IN YAVAPAI COUNTY IS THE CONCEPT OF DENSITY, AND THE CONVERSATIONS JUST CHANGED NOW THAT PEOPLE CAN HAVE ADDITIONAL ADUS ON THEIR PROPERTY.
AND SO I'D BE INTERESTED IN UNDERSTANDING HOW WE COULD REALLY BRING PARITY TO, INSTEAD OF JUST ADDING ON TO AN ESTABLISHED HOME IN A SORT OF MAYBE INCONSISTENT FASHION, WHAT WOULD IT LOOK LIKE TO, TO YOU KNOW, REALLY APPROVE DENSITY OR QUADPLEXES OR DUPLEXES IN A WAY THAT IS SORT OF ON THE SAME LEVEL OF USE AS WHAT THE STATE IS ESTABLISHED.
SO DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? IF YOU CAN HAVE THREE FAMILIES LIVING ON A SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENCE NOW, YOU KNOW, WHY COULDN'T YOU PLAN FOR A TRIPLEX IN THE SAME SENSE, YOU KNOW? THANK YOU. VICE CHAIR CHECK. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT HAS COME THROUGH STATE LEGISLATURE WAS THE REQUIREMENT FOR MUNICIPALITIES, CITIES AND TOWNS DO HAVE A PRE APPROVED HOUSING.
THAT IS WITH SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENCES BETWEEN A CERTAIN LIVABLE SPACE RANGE.
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I THINK IT'S LIKE 400 TO 2000FT² INCLUDING ADUS, INCLUDING DUPLEXES AND INCLUDING TRIPLEXES.ONE OF THE THINGS THAT DEVELOPMENT SERVICES HAS BEEN WORKING WITH ON THE VERDE SIDE IS KIND OF BRIDGING THAT GAP BECAUSE WE HAVE THE HOME OF MY OWN PROGRAM, WHICH ACTUALLY CHECKS QUITE A BIT OF BOXES OUT.
SO AGAIN, WE'RE KIND OF TRAILBLAZING WITH THAT PROGRAM.
WE DO NOT HAVE ANY DUPLEXES OR TRIPLEXES, BUT WE ARE ASKING FOR THAT IN OUR BUDGET TO MOVE FORWARD TO GETTING THOSE UNDERWAY. THE GOOD THING ABOUT THAT IS WITH US WORKING WITH THESE OTHER MUNICIPALITIES, ESPECIALLY ON THE VERDE SIDE ALL OF THE DEVELOPMENT SERVICES DIRECTORS AND ASSISTANT DIRECTORS ARE WORKING TOGETHER TO COME UP WITH SOMETHING FOR ALL CITY OF CAMP VERDE, COTTONWOOD, SEDONA, ALL THOSE MUNICIPALITIES TO WHERE WE CAN ALL MEET THE REQUIREMENTS THAT ARE MADE BY STATE LEGISLATORS FOR THOSE. THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER BUCHANAN, I REALLY CAN'T SEE THE SCREEN THAT WELL, BUT IF YOU HAVE, I DON'T WANT TO MISS YOU. SO IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OR CONCERNS, FEEL FREE.
JUST CHIME ON IN. OKAY. THANK YOU SO MUCH, CHAIRMAN.
WE ARE HAVING A LITTLE BIT OF TECH GLITCH WITH AUDIO, BUT IT'S BEEN A GREAT MEETING SO FAR AND I.
I WILL WEIGH IN IF I HAVE SOMETHING TO ADD. THANK YOU.
ANY OTHER SUPERVISOR KUKNYO ON THE VIDEO INSPECTIONS? THAT DOES NOT NECESSARILY HAVE TO BE LIVE, DOES IT? GREAT QUESTION. SUPERVISOR KUKNYO, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE LIKE MOST ABOUT VIEW SPECS AND BEING A RURAL COUNTY IS YOU DON'T HAVE TO HAVE A CELL SIGNAL IN ORDER TO COMPLETE YOUR INSPECTION PRIOR TO YOUR INSPECTION HAPPENING.
IF YOU'RE IN AN AREA WITHOUT CELL SERVICE, OUR BUILDING SAFETY INSPECTOR WILL BE ABLE TO DIRECT YOU TO THE APP TO DOWNLOAD, WHICH WILL THEN SAY, WHICH WILL THEN ALLOW YOU TO TAKE ALL THE PICTURES THAT ARE REQUIRED FOR THE INSPECTION.
GREAT. AND THE OTHER QUESTION KIND OF GOING ALONG WITH WHAT SUPERVISOR CHECK WAS TALKING ABOUT.
COMMISSIONER EASTWOOD AND I WERE TALKING ABOUT THIS THIS MORNING, WHEN YOU HAVE AN ADU THAT IS BUILT ONTO AN EXISTING RESIDENCE, DOES THAT TRIGGER REQUIREMENTS FOR THE EXISTING RESIDENCE? IF YOUR, IF YOUR HOME IS 4000FT² AND YOU ADD ON 1500, DO YOU NOW HAVE TO SPRINKLE THE ENTIRE PROPERTY? SUPERVISOR THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION. I WOULD THINK THAT WITH NOW HAVING.
IT WAS MIKE'S QUESTION, BY THE WAY. COMMISSIONER GREAT QUESTION.
I WOULD IMAGINE THAT NOW THAT YOU'RE OVER THAT THRESHOLD OF 5000 SQUARE FOOT FOR THE REQUIRED SPRINKLER SYSTEM, THAT'S GOING TO BE A BUILDING CODE REQUIREMENT BASED ON THE IRC.
YOU CAN NOT AT THIS TIME. THANK YOU. MR. EASTMAN, WE'RE MOVING ON TO YOU.
[3. Zoning Ordinance Update and Presentation on Subdivision Regulations - Presentation by Roger Eastman, AICP, Logan Simpson providing the Board of Supervisors and the Planning & Zoning Commission with a high-level overview and targeted discussion. Staff: Matt Blake, AICP, Planning Manager. Major Energy Uses The purpose of the presentation and discussion is to establish a baseline understanding about Data Centers, Battery Energy Storage Systems (BESS), Utility Scale Wind Energy Facilities, and Small Modular Reactors (SMR) from a land use standpoint, and to solicit input and direction from members on potential integration or prohibition as part of the Zoning Ordinance update. Development Services requested this discussion in response to increasing inquiries from developers, property owners and others who are expressing interest in bringing these major energy uses and emerging technologies into the County. Staff believe there is high likelihood of receiving multiple applications for such projects in 2026, particularly for utility scale wind energy facilities, which the Zoning Ordinance currently doesn’t allow without a Use Permit. Update to the County’s Subdivision Regulations The purpose of the presentation and discussion is to provide an overview of and update on the County Subdivision Regulations draft. This will include an outline of the process and estimated schedule for adoption, review major changes and recommendations, and have discussion, solicit input and direction from members on key questions and policy decisions. Areas of discussion include administration, application procedures, subdivision type, requirements and design standards, approval process, access and street design, open space, wildfire hazard mitigation, construction requirements, and Minor Land Divisions, among others.]
THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN. MEMBERS OF THE BOARD AND PLANNING COMMISSION, IT'S A PLEASURE TO BE WITH YOU THIS MORNING.FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO DON'T KNOW ME, ROGER EASTMAN, SENIOR ASSOCIATE PLANNER WITH LOGAN SIMPSON, AND I'M HERE THIS THIS MORNING TO GUIDE US THROUGH A QUICK UPDATE ON THE ZONING ORDINANCE AND THEN TO SPEND SOME TIME WITH YOU TALKING ABOUT THE SUBDIVISION REGULATIONS UPDATE.
WE'RE PROVIDING FREQUENT INFORMATION TO THE COUNTY PIO THAT GOES OUT THROUGH YOUR SOCIAL MEDIA.
SO WE'RE REALLY DOING OUR BEST IN A COUNTY THIS BIG TO KEEP THE WORD OUT ON WHAT WE'RE DOING.
THE WHOLE ASSESSMENT PHASE HAS BEEN COMPLETED.
YOU'LL REMEMBER BACK IN NOVEMBER LAST YEAR, WE HAD A VERY PRODUCTIVE CONVERSATION WITH DANNY FROM [INAUDIBLE] COMPANY AND MYSELF TALKING ABOUT THE HOUSING NEEDS ASSESSMENT AND THE ZONING CODE AND SUBDIVISION REGULATIONS ASSESSMENT.
AND THAT SET THE STAGE THEN FOR MOVING INTO PHASE THREE, WHICH IS THE CODE DRAFTING PHASE.
AND WE WORKED WITH STAFF TO DECIDE WHICH WAS REALLY THE FIRST STEP FOR US.
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AND IT WAS AGREED WE'D WORK IN THE SUBDIVISION REGULATIONS FIRST.AND SO WE'VE BEEN WORKING NOW ON THE SUBDIVISION REGULATIONS SINCE NOVEMBER OF LAST YEAR.
WE PROVIDED STAFF WITH AN ADMINISTRATIVE DRAFT, THE ONE THAT YOU HAVE IN FRONT OF YOU.
IN JANUARY OF THIS YEAR. SO WHAT WE'LL DO THIS THIS MORNING IS JUST DO A HIGH LEVEL OVERVIEW OF THE ADMINISTRATIVE DRAFT AND A WORD ON THAT. ADMINISTRATIVE DRAFTS ARE TYPICALLY INCOMPLETE.
AND YOU'LL SEE THAT THERE'S LOTS OF COMMENTS, QUESTIONS DIRECTIONS TO STAFF.
WHAT DO YOU WANT TO DO HERE? NOT ALL OF IT IS FLESHED OUT.
THERE ARE GRAPHICS, FOR EXAMPLE, THAT WE'VE PULLED IN FROM OTHER CODES THAT ARE JUST, HEY, THIS IS SOMETHING WE'RE THINKING ABOUT. I'LL ACTUALLY PRESENT TO YOU SOME UPDATED ILLUSTRATIONS THIS MORNING.
THERE'S TABLES AND IDEAS FROM OTHER CODES TOO THAT ARE JUST SUGGESTIONS FOR CONSIDERATION.
SO THAT WAS REALLY, REALLY HELPFUL. WE'LL BE TALKING TODAY MOSTLY ABOUT THE MAJOR CHANGES THAT WE'RE PROPOSING AND THEN WE'LL WRAP UP WITH AN OVERVIEW OF THE SCHEDULE FOR ADOPTION.
AND THEN OF COURSE, AT THE DIRECTION OF THE CHAIR WE'LL BE OPEN FOR QUESTIONS AND DISCUSSION.
IT'S BROKEN DOWN INTO EIGHT DIFFERENT MAJOR SECTIONS.
YOU'RE ALL PROBABLY VERY FAMILIAR WITH THIS. THIS IS A DOCUMENT THAT GOES BACK TO 1973, WHEN IT WAS FIRST ADOPTED, AND THEN UPDATED A NUMBER OF TIMES SINCE THEN.
BUT AS WE TALKED ABOUT IN THE ASSESSMENT, THERE ARE CERTAINLY AREAS FOR IMPROVEMENT.
AND SO WE'VE SUGGESTED A REARRANGEMENT OF THE TABLE OF CONTENTS.
AND IN THIS PARTICULAR IMAGE, YOU CAN SEE BY THE COLORS WHERE THINGS MOVED.
SO WE MOVED, FOR EXAMPLE, DEFINITIONS TO THE END OF THE DOCUMENT.
THIS IS A VERY TYPICAL BEST PRACTICE TODAY THAT WE DON'T WANT TO BREAK UP THE FLOW OF THE, OF THE DOCUMENT AND PUT THEIR DEFINITIONS AT THE BACK, BUT YOU CAN SEE THAT ALL THE MAJOR COMPONENTS ARE STILL THERE.
BUT THE BIGGEST CHANGE REALLY IS SECTIONS OR CHAPTERS E THROUGH H IN THE PROPOSED TABLE OF CONTENTS WHERE WE'VE REALLY LAID OUT, HEY, WHAT IS THE PROCESS FOR SUBDIVIDING? THAT'S IN CHAPTER E.
AND THEN WE GO THROUGH THE MAJOR STEPS, THE SKETCH PLAN, THE PRELIMINARY PLAN AND THE FINAL PLAN.
SO IT'S VERY EASY FOR SOMEBODY UNFAMILIAR WITH THE COUNTY'S PROCESSES TO SEE THAT.
SO LET'S JUST RUN THROUGH THIS AGAIN AT A FAIRLY HIGH LEVEL.
EACH MAJOR CHAPTER HAS A SIMPLE PURPOSE STATEMENT.
AND WE FOUND THAT VERY USEFUL AGAIN FOR THOSE WHO ARE NOT FAMILIAR WITH THE COUNTY'S REGULATIONS.
WHY DO WE HAVE A TITLE AUTHORITY AND PURPOSE SECTION? AND THEN IT BREAKS DOWN AFTER THAT INTO WHAT IS THE PURPOSE OF THE SUB REGS.
AND WE'RE EXPANDING THE EXISTING STATEMENTS FROM YOUR SUBDIVISION REGULATIONS, CLARIFYING THE TITLE AND THE AUTHORITY UNDER ARIZONA REVISED STATUTES, AND THEN EXPLAINING HOW IT WILL BE APPLIED. AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT WITH STAFF IS THE CONCEPT OF MOVING MINOR LAND DIVISIONS, WHICH ARE CURRENTLY IN THE ZONING ORDINANCE TODAY INTO THE SUBDIVISION REGULATIONS DOCUMENT.
SO WE KEEP ALL THE ZONING RULES FOR USES AND ZONES THEMSELVES AND THE PROCEDURES FOR ZONING CODE IN ONE PLACE, AND EVERYTHING REGARDING MINOR LAND DIVISIONS AND SUBDIVISIONS IN ANOTHER SEPARATE DOCUMENT.
IN TERMS OF ADMINISTRATION, THERE ARE A COUPLE OF CHANGES HERE.
THE BIGGEST ONE IS THE RESPONSIBILITIES SECTION WHERE WE IDENTIFY AT THE BEGINNING, WHAT ARE THE ROLES OF EACH OF THE MAJOR PLAYERS IN A SUBDIVISION? THIS IS AN IDEA WE GOT FROM COCONINO COUNTY.
WE THOUGHT IT MADE A LOT OF SENSE. AND WE WERE INTRODUCING THE IDEA OF A TECHNICAL REVIEW COMMITTEE.
NOW STAFF TODAY, WHEN THEY RECEIVE A PRELIMINARY PLAT, WILL SEND IT OUT TO ALL THE REVIEWERS, INTERNAL AND EXTERNAL, GET COMMENTS, RESOLVE THOSE COMMENTS, FEED THEM BACK TO THE APPLICANT.
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BUT THERE'S NOT A LOT OF OPPORTUNITY FOR STAFF TO GET TOGETHER IN ONE ROOM AND TO TALK ABOUT IT.AND SO THE IDEA OF THE TECHNICAL REVIEW COMMITTEE OR FLAGSTAFF'S DEVELOPMENT REVIEW BOARD OR SEDONA SIMILAR TYPE OF GROUP, IS THAT YOU GET EVERYBODY TOGETHER. AND THEN IF THERE'S A CONFLICT IN A REQUIREMENT, YOU CAN WORK IT OUT IN THAT MEETING.
AND THE IDEA BEHIND THIS IS IT HELPS STREAMLINE THE PROCESS.
IT RESOLVES CONFLICTS EARLIER IN THE PROCESS, AND IT JUST MAKES IT EASIER ON THE APPLICANT AND EASIER ON THE STAFF BECAUSE IT RESOLVES CONFLICT AND PROVIDES FOR A MORE STREAMLINED REVIEW AND APPROVAL PROCESS.
MR. CHAIR, I WAS WONDERING IF HOW HOW THE SPEAKER WOULD LIKE TO HANDLE AS WE GO THROUGH THIS.
I SEE SHE HAS FLAGS, I HAVE FLAGS. DO WE WANT QUESTIONS AS WE GO THROUGH THESE DIFFERENT SECTIONS, OR DO YOU WANT TO GET DONE WITH YOUR PRESENTATION AND THEN GO BACK AND GO THROUGH ALL THIS.
I DEFER TO THE CHAIR ON THIS. FIRST PART OF THE PRESENTATION ISN'T AS LONG AS THE LAST PART, I DON'T BELIEVE. THERE'S SOME SLIDES. I HAVEN'T FINISHED THE FIRST PRESENTATION.
CHAPTER C IS THE SUBDIVISION DESIGN STANDARDS.
AND THIS IS WHERE WE CARRY FORWARD A LOT OF THE EXISTING STANDARDS FROM THE SUBDIVISION REGULATIONS, BUT UPDATED THEM, CLEANED THEM UP, ADDED IN SOME NEW IDEAS.
AND AGAIN, THE ADMINISTRATIVE DRAFT YOU'RE SEEING IS FULL OF NEW IDEAS THAT HAVE NOT YET BEEN FULLY BAKED AND FULLY VETTED, BUT FAIRLY STRAIGHTFORWARD GENERAL REQUIREMENTS THAT APPLY TO ALL SUBDIVISIONS.
LET'S SAY, FOR EXAMPLE, YOU MUST COMPLY WITH ALL COUNTY CODES AND THE MINIMUM REQUIREMENTS ARE WHAT YOU ARE REQUIRED TO FOLLOW, THAT YOU MUST COMPLY WITH THE ZONING ORDINANCE IN TERMS OF MINIMUM LOT SIZE AND THE ZONE STANDARDS FOR WHEREVER THE SUBDIVISION IS LOCATED.
AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE'RE DOING, AND YOU'LL SEE THIS NOTE ON A NUMBER OF SLIDES, IS RATHER THAN REPEATING STANDARDS THAT MIGHT BE IN THE PUBLIC WORKS STANDARDS OR THE STORMWATER CONTROL DESIGN MANUAL, JUST CROSS-REFERENCE TO THEM.
IT MAKES IT MUCH EASIER THAT WAY. ONE OF THE THINGS WE'RE TALKING ABOUT WITH STAFF IS THE IDEA OF HOW TO DEAL WITH WILDFIRE HAZARD MITIGATION. THIS IS OBVIOUSLY A CRITICALLY IMPORTANT AREA IN THE ISSUE IN THE, IN THE COUNTY. ONE IDEA IS TO USE THE FREE RESOURCES FROM FIREWISE USA, AND TO TAKE SOME OF THOSE IDEAS AND STANDARDS AND BUILD THEM INTO THE CODE. WE'VE DONE THIS IN A NUMBER OF OTHER PROJECTS IN THE WEST, OR THE COUNTY COULD TAKE A BIGGER STEP AND ADOPT THE WILDLAND URBAN INTERFACE CODE.
THE CHALLENGE WITH THAT IS, HAVING TALKED TO YOUR BUILDING OFFICIAL, IS THAT NOT ALL FIRE AUTHORITIES HAVE ADOPTED THE WUIC, AS WE LIKE TO CALL IT, THE WILDLAND URBAN INTERFACE CODE, BUT MAYBE THE WUIC COULD APPLY TO THOSE AREAS OF THE COUNTY WITHOUT A FIRE DISTRICT AND WITHOUT A FIRE AUTHORITY. SO THAT'S ONE OF THE AREAS THAT'S OPEN FOR DISCUSSION AT THIS POINT.
SUBDIVISION DESIGN STANDARDS CARRY ON INTO THE LAYOUT DESIGN AND OPEN SPACE STANDARDS SECTIONS.
THE IDEA IS THESE ARE THE BASIC STANDARDS FOR BLOCKS AND LOTS BUILDING ENVELOPES, EASEMENTS, LARGE TRACTS, HOW YOU PROVIDE LOT NUMBERING AND SO ON.
OPEN SPACE. WE'RE EXPANDING ON THE STANDARDS IN THE CURRENT CODE, AS I'LL INTRODUCE LATER ON.
IF IT'S A SMALL PARCEL OF, SAY, EIGHT, TEN LOTS, NO OPEN SPACE WOULD BE REQUIRED.
BUT IF IT'S A MUCH BIGGER PARCEL, PERHAPS THERE IS A REQUIREMENT FOR FOR OPEN SPACE.
WE TALKED AT THE LAST JOINT WORK SESSION ABOUT LANDSCAPING, AND IT WAS AGREED THAT WE WOULD NOT REQUIRE LANDSCAPING FOR INDIVIDUAL LOTS OR IN RIGHT OF WAY CONSISTENT WITH CURRENT PUBLIC WORKS STANDARDS.
HOWEVER, WE WOULD ADD LANDSCAPING AND PRIVATE TRACKS OR COMMON AREAS AND INTRODUCE THE IDEA OF WILDLIFE COMPATIBLE FENCES THAT ARE CONSISTENT WITH ARIZONA GAME AND FISH DEPARTMENT STANDARDS.
AND THEN WE BUILD FROM THERE. PUBLIC UTILITIES, SANITARY SEWAGE DISPOSAL.
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AGAIN, USING THE COUNTY STANDARDS AS THE BASIS AND PROVIDING REFERENCES TO THEM.THIS IS PROBABLY THE BIGGEST CHANGE IN TERMS OF THE SUBDIVISION DESIGN STANDARDS.
AND THIS IS BASED ON POLICY AND GOAL STATEMENTS IN THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, WHERE WE'RE LOOKING TO DO PROVIDE AS AN OPTION, NOT AS A REQUIREMENT, AN OPTION TO PROVIDE FOR A CLUSTERED SUBDIVISION LAYOUT.
AND IT'S BASED ON THE IDEA OF TWO PRINCIPLES CONSERVING LAND THAT NEEDS TO BE PRESERVED.
IF IT'S A FLOODPLAIN REALLY STEEP, IT'S GRASSLANDS, ANTELOPE HABITAT OR WHATEVER IT HAPPENS TO BE.
AND THEN BASED ON THE PRINCIPLES OF FIREWISE DESIGN AS WELL.
AND YOU CAN SEE THAT UPPER DRAWING IS A IMAGE OF A CONVENTIONAL SUBDIVISION LAYOUT.
SIMPLE ROADS, TWO ACRE PLUS LOTS. AND I DON'T REMEMBER HOW MANY LOTS ARE THERE, BUT THERE'S, LET'S SAY 45 LOTS IN THAT CONVENTIONAL SUBDIVISION.
AND THERE ARE A NUMBER OF SUBDIVISIONS IN THE SEDONA AREA THAT DO THIS, WHERE THE PROPERTY OWNER REALLY ONLY OWNS THE FOOTPRINT OF HIS HOUSE, PLUS A LITTLE BIT OF EXTRA LAND. AND THEN EVERYTHING ELSE GOES INTO COMMON OPEN SPACE.
SO AGAIN, WE'RE NOT MANDATING THIS AS AN IDEA.
WE'RE JUST OFFERING IT AS A SUGGESTION. AND IN ORDER TO INCENTIVIZE IT, WE'VE WRITTEN INTO MANY CODES ACROSS THE WEST THE IDEA OF A DENSITY BONUS.
BUT THEN THE DENSITY BONUS COULD BE APPLIED IF YOU DO CERTAIN THINGS LIKE CONNECT TO URBAN SEWER.
AND THAT'S AN INCENTIVE TO GIVE THE DEVELOPER EXTRA BUILDING UNITS.
IN THIS CASE, THIS IS FROM BONNER COUNTY, IDAHO.
BOTTOM ROW IS WHERE WE BONNER COUNTY PROVIDES 20% DENSITY BONUS.
NOW, THIS TENDS TO BE FAIRLY FINE GRAINED. YOU CAN ALSO SIMPLIFY IT SIGNIFICANTLY.
ALL RIGHT. I MENTIONED EARLIER THAT WE'RE INTRODUCING THIS NEW CHAPTER, E, THAT PROVIDES THE IDEA OF WHAT IS THE PROCESS FOR SUBDIVIDING LAND IN YAVAPAI COUNTY. AND THE ILLUSTRATION ON THE RIGHT IS FROM MARICOPA COUNTY.
IT SHOWS ALL THE DIFFERENT STEPS IN MARICOPA COUNTY.
WE WOULD PROVIDE A SIMILAR GRAPHIC TO THAT. AND THEN STEP BY STEP WORK OUR WAY THROUGH THE PROCESS.
AND ONE OF THE THINGS WE'VE DISCUSSED WITH STAFF, AND I THINK THEY'RE SUPPORTIVE OF THIS IDEA IS TAKING THE SUBMITTAL REQUIREMENTS OUT OF THE SUBDIVISION REGULATIONS. WE'LL DO THE SAME THING WITH THE ZONING ORDINANCE.
IF THE APPLICATION REQUIREMENTS ARE IN YOUR DOCUMENTS, THEN THEY WOULD HAVE TO GO BACK THROUGH THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS TO CHANGE THAT SUBMITTAL REQUIREMENT.
IT'S MUCH EASIER TO HAVE THEM AS A PART OF THE APPLICATION FORMS. WE THEN DROP INTO THE PRELIMINARY PLAT PROCEDURES AND REQUIREMENTS.
I THINK YOU'RE ALL FAMILIAR WITH THE PRELIMINARY PLAT PROCESSES.
WE DISCUSSED THIS. IF YOU REMEMBER LAST YEAR IN THE JOINT WORK SESSION STATE STATUTE PROVIDES THAT THE BOARD CAN DEFER SOME OF THAT APPROVAL, BUT THE DECISION WAS MADE TO KEEP IT. SO WE'RE MAINTAINING THAT, BUT WE HAVE CLEANED UP THE LANGUAGE IN THE PROCESS TO MAKE IT A LITTLE EASIER TO STREAMLINE IT. SO IT'S CONSISTENT MORE WITH CURRENT PROCEDURES USED BY THE DEPARTMENT AND THEN THE STANDARD PLACES FOR PLAT
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REVISIONS, MINOR AMENDMENTS, PRELIMINARY PLAT, IF YOU'RE IF YOU KNOW, ARE COMING TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION IN APRIL AND I BELIEVE TO THE BOARD IN MAY FOR CONSIDERATION, AND THEN WE MOVE TO THE FINAL PLAT.AND AGAIN, THIS IS VERY MUCH THE EXISTING PROCEDURES JUST UPDATED, CLEANED UP, SOME NEW IDEAS ARE INCLUDED FOR STAFF'S CONSIDERATION BEFORE WE PRESENT IT ONWARDS, AS I MENTIONED, EXCUSE ME, WE'RE SUGGESTING BRINGING THE MINOR LAND DIVISION SECTIONS INTO THE ZONING ORDINANCE INTO THE SUBDIVISION REGULATIONS SO THAT ALL SUBDIVISION AND LAND DIVISION PROCEDURES ARE IN ONE PLACE.
WHAT WILL BE NEW IS ADDING CONDOMINIUM SUBDIVISIONS.
WE GOT THIS IDEA FROM PINAL COUNTY, AND IT DOESN'T HURT TO HAVE IT IN YOUR CODE SO THAT WHEN AN APPLICANT COMES FORWARD AND SAYS, HEY, I'VE GOT A BUILDING AND I NEED TO CREATE A CONDOMINIUM OUT OF IT, YOU HAVE A PROCEDURE FOR HOW TO ADDRESS IT.
THE CONSTRUCTION REQUIREMENTS AND THE ABANDONMENTS PROCEDURES ARE AGAIN, CLEANED UP VERSIONS OF WHAT YOU HAVE IN YOUR CURRENT SUBDIVISION REGULATIONS. SO I'M NOT GOING TO SPEND ANY TIME TALKING ABOUT THOSE.
AND THEN FOR DEFINITIONS, WE'VE EXPANDED THE NUMBER OF DEFINITIONS.
THERE WERE A SURPRISING NUMBER OF DEFINITIONS MISSING IN YOUR CURRENT REGULATIONS.
UPDATED THEM AND ENSURED THAT THEY'RE CONSISTENT WITH OUR ARIZONA REVISED STATUTES.
SO I'LL CONCLUDE HERE BY JUST TALKING ABOUT THE SCHEDULE.
WE'RE FOUR LINES DOWN MARCH 26TH. IN THIS JOINT WORK SESSION, WE'RE WORKING WITH STAFF TO GET THE MAY THE PUBLIC REVIEW DRAFT OUT ON MAY 22ND, JUST BEFORE MEMORIAL DAY.
WE'RE SCHEDULING TWO STAKEHOLDER MEETINGS, ONE EACH IN COTTONWOOD AND PRESCOTT FOR JUNE.
AND THEN WE'LL MAKE REVISIONS BASED ON THE PUBLIC COMMENTS THAT WE'VE RECEIVED.
AND WE HAVEN'T GOT AN EXACT DATE ON THE CALENDAR YET, BUT PLANNING COMMISSION HEARING IS SCHEDULED IN AUGUST IN AND PRESCOTT AND THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS HEARING EITHER IN COTTONWOOD OR PRESCOTT IN SEPTEMBER.
THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN. THANK YOU SO MUCH, I APPRECIATE IT.
MATT, ARE YOU CHIMING IN AS WELL OR. NO? THANK YOU.
CHAIRMAN. IF THERE'S A QUESTION, I'M HAPPY TO CHIME IN.
THANK YOU SO MUCH. SUPERVISOR KUKNYO. I'LL OPEN UP THE FLOOR FOR YOUR QUESTIONS.
DO WE WANT TO GO THROUGH THIS? YEAH. HOW DO YOU WANT TO DO IT? I'M JUST GIVING IT TO YOU FOR YOU TO GO THROUGH YOUR QUESTIONS.
ALL RIGHT. WELL, STARTING AT THE BEGINNING ON THE PURPOSE, I THINK THERE'S SOME THINGS THAT.
AND MY FEAR IS THAT THIS STUDY IS NOT MOVING IN THE DIRECTION THAT I HAD HOPED THAT IT WOULD MOVE.
AND I THINK, YOU KNOW, WHEN WE 15 MONTHS AGO, WHEN WE WERE ALL ON THE CAMPAIGN TRAIL, THE OVERWHELMING THING WAS HOW TO GET CONTROL OF THIS GROWTH THAT WE GOT GOING ON AND STARTING TO TRY AND PLAN FOR IT RATHER THAN REACT TO IT.
WHAT DO WE WANT OUR COMMUNITY TO LOOK LIKE AND WHAT CHANGES ARE NEEDED TO MAKE THAT HAPPEN? AND PART OF IT IS BEING TRUTHFUL WITH OURSELVES.
YOU KNOW, I HAVEN'T SEEN ANYTHING THAT REALLY ADDRESSES MULTIMODAL AT ALL.
WE HAVE STREETS AND SOME OF THEM ARE WIDE AND YES, THOSE THAT'S WHERE THE BIKES, THE HORSES, THE PEOPLE GO. BUT WE REALLY DON'T ENSURE MULTIMODAL SAFE PROVISIONS.
FOR WATER SUPPLY ON D, THERE'S NOTHING IN THERE ABOUT RECHARGE.
AND THERE IS SOME STUFF A LITTLE BIT LATER. BUT I THINK AS WE GRAPPLE WITH THIS WATER SITUATION, WHICH IS SOMETHING THIS BOARD HAS DECIDED TO TACKLE, WE HAVE TO REALLY FIT RECHARGE INTO THIS EQUATION BECAUSE WE ARE GOING TO RUN OUT OF
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WATER. THE COST THAT WE HAVE TO INCUR FROM THIS GROWTH.BUT I THINK BACK THEN WE HAD AN IMPACT FEE SYSTEM THAT WAS MUCH BETTER, WHERE YOU COULD GET THESE PIGGY BANKS THAT YOU COULD, AS PEOPLE BUILT HOUSES, WOULD SOLELY ACCUMULATE FUNDS WHERE WHEN YOU NEEDED A ROAD, THERE WAS MONEY THERE TO BUILD THAT ROAD.
AND A LOT OF THAT SYSTEM GOT CHANGED BY THE STATE.
NOW IT'S BEEN REVISED AGAIN. HOW DO WE GET BACK ON BOARD SO WE CAN START BUILDING THESE FUNDS WHEN WE HAVE THIS GROWTH, SO WE CAN SUPPLY THE SERVICES THAT ARE REQUIRED.
AND THEN ON H IT SAYS AND TO ENSURE UNIMPEDED DEVELOPMENT OF NEW URBAN EXPANSIONS THAT IS LOGICAL, DESIRABLE IN ACCORDANCE WITH GOALS. I DON'T THINK WE WANT TO MAKE IT UNIMPEDED.
AND I DON'T KNOW IF ANYBODY ELSE WANTS TO WEIGH IN ON PURPOSE, BUT THAT'S ALL I HAD ON THERE.
IT'S ALL JURISDICTIONS THAT COULD BE AFFECTED.
SO NOW EVERYBODY'S GOING TO BE WEIGHING IN ON EVERY SUBDIVISION THAT WE DO.
ANOTHER THING THAT WE'VE HAD HEARTACHE WITH A LOT IS THESE, THIS WAIVER THING AND ME SPECIFICALLY WITH SPRINGFIELD RANCH, WE'RE SAYING, YOU KNOW, THE ROADS ARE NOT TO COUNTY STANDARDS.
WELL, YOU LOOK AT EVERY COMMUNITY, EVERY AREA SURROUNDING THAT COMMUNITY.
BUT WE ARE ALLOWING DECREASED WIDTHS TO MULTIPLE VARYING DEGREES.
AND EVERY TIME WE HAVE TO SAY, WELL, WE'RE GIVING THIS GUY A WAIVER, WE'RE GIVING HIM A WAIVER.
WE'VE ALREADY AGREED TO IT ONCE. NOW THERE'S GOING TO BE FIVE PHASES OF THIS PROJECT.
HE KEEPS DOING THE SAME THING. WHY IS HE HAVING TO COME BACK FOR A WAIVER EVERY SINGLE TIME.
IT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE TO ME. ON BUILDING ENVELOPES INDICATING WHERE BUILDING INSTRUCTIONS WILL BE PLACED WILL BE SHOWN ON ALL LOTS INTENDED. HOW DOES THIS APPLY TO THE NEW ADU LAW? WE HAVE NO IDEA WHERE WE NOW PERMIT SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENCES.
YOU CAN NOW HAVE FOUR BUILDINGS ON THERE. YOU KNOW, HOW ARE WE GOING TO ACTUALLY ADDRESS BUILDING ENVELOPES AND, AND RESOURCES THAT COME OUT OF THE GROUND, WATER RESOURCES THAT GO INTO THE GROUND, SEWAGE? SO HOW ARE WE GOING TO ADDRESS THE BUILDING ENVELOPE DEAL? AND I KNOW WE'RE TRYING TO DEAL WITH DENSITY WELL, AS WE MAKE THIS, THIS MORE DENSE AND THE ADUS COME IN, THAT MAKES IT EVEN MORE HYPER IMPOSED ON DENSITY.
ANOTHER THING THAT THAT BOTHERS ME IS WE TALKING HERE THAT WE ARE GOING TO.
PRESERVE THE SCENIC CHARACTER AND RIDGE LINES THAT DEFINE YAVAPAI COUNTY'S HILLSIDE AREAS.
AND YOU KNOW, I'LL SOUND SAPPY, BUT THE CHICKS WILL DIG ME.
SO I THINK WE NEED TO STAY BELOW THE RIDGE LINE ON THINGS THAT WE BECAUSE REALLY IT COMES DOWN TO WE'RE BEING RESTRICTIVE, BUT WHAT DOES THIS COMMUNITY WANT TO LOOK LIKE? AND I THINK SOMEBODY HAD THIS DEFINITION A LITTLE WHILE AGO THAT THAT SAID, YOU KNOW, WHAT WE'RE GETTING, WE'RE GETTING DAILY FRUSTRATIONS, WHETHER THAT BE ROADS, THE DRIVE IN, WHAT'S IT LIKE TO LIVE HERE, MOVE THROUGH HERE AND ACT IN OUR COMMUNITY? IS IT BECOMING TENSE OR IS IT STILL THE PLACE WE LOVE TO BE AT? I'M GLAD I PUT FLAGS IN. SOMETHING THAT RESPECTS THE NATURAL ENVIRONMENT BY ASSIMILATING THAT DEVELOPMENT IN THE SURROUNDING ENVIRONMENT. WE HAVE TO LOOK AT AT HOW EVERYTHING IS GOING TO FIT.
AND THIS KIND OF FITS INTO THE RIDGELINE THING. AND WE WERE TALKING ABOUT INCENTIVES FOR DENSITY.
THAT COULD BE A GOOD THING, BUT I DIDN'T KNOW IF THESE ADDED UP OR IF THEY, IF THERE WAS A MAXIMUM, IT SOUNDED LIKE THERE WAS A MAXIMUM OF 25. IS THAT CORRECT? YOU COULDN'T YOU COULDN'T HAVE A 15, A FIVE, A 20 AND A 15 AND A THAT THAT DOESN'T ADD UP TOGETHER.
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THE MAXIMUM IS 25. CORRECT? SUPERVISOR KUKNYO, GREAT QUESTION.INSTEAD, THIS PROCESS HAS A CORRECTIVE REPLAT.
WHEN THIS OCCURS, DO WE WANT TO TREAT IT LIKE A PAD? AND THERE'S, THERE'S A, I JUST BECAME AWARE OF HOW COCHISE COUNTY HANDLES THIS.
AND WHAT WE'RE HAVING IS WE'RE HAVING THESE LOT SPLITS AND, AND FIVE OR UNDER.
YOU CAN DO IT, BUT YOU KNOW WHAT? YOU CAN LEGALLY DO IT.
BUT CAN WE HAVE REQUIREMENTS WHEN THESE MINOR LOT SPLITS GO.
AND THERE'S EVEN SOMETHING IN OUR OUR BOOK ABOUT YOU HAVE TO SIGN AN OATH THAT SAYS YOU'RE NOT USING THIS TO GO AROUND OUR, OUR LOT SPLITTING REQUIREMENTS OF SIX PLUS. BUT YOU KNOW WHAT? IT SEEMS LIKE THIS HAS HAPPENED IN MY DISTRICT.
IT SEEMS LIKE IT CONTINUES TO HAPPEN IN MY DISTRICT WHERE THIS I, I SELL SOME TO DEE, SHE SPLITS HERS, THEN SHE SELLS SOME TO BROOKS. HE SPLITS HIS.
AND WE'RE ALL WORKING IN CONJUNCTION, WHICH IS AGAINST THE LAW TO DO.
BUT IT SEEMS LIKE THAT KIND OF THING IS HAPPENING. SO WHAT KIND OF ENFORCEMENT ARE WE DOING TO TO MAKE PEOPLE PUT IN THE STRUCTURES? AND I LOOK BACK AT THE SANTA YNEZ PROJECT. NOW THAT WE SAID WE DID NOT LIKE THE PAD, WE TURNED IT DOWN.
NOW THEY'RE NOT SPLITTING IT. IS THAT GOING TO HAPPEN DOWN THERE WHERE ESSENTIALLY THEY GET WHAT THEY WANT, BUT THERE IS NO INFRASTRUCTURE, THERE IS NO PAVED ROADS, THERE IS NO REQUIREMENTS FOR FIRE, AND IT'S JUST GOING TO LOOK LIKE OTHER COMMUNITIES AROUND THERE THAT JUST KIND OF GOT PUT TOGETHER.
SO WHEN WHEN IT OCCURS WHERE THEY DO THIS, IS THERE ANYTHING THAT IS ALLOWED? BUT THE REQUIRED, THE REQUIREMENTS CHANGE AS WELL.
AND I THINK LIKE I SAID, I THINK COCHISE COUNTY DID THIS TO SOME DEGREE.
SO WE REALLY OUGHT TO STUDY WHAT THEY DID AND SEE IF IT'S GOING TO APPLY TO US.
AND IT DOESN'T MAKE IT EASIER JUST TO DO THESE KIND OF THINGS.
AND LIKE I WAS TALKING ABOUT IT, IT SAYS IN THE SECTION IN 5.A, A GROUP OF PERSONS TO ATTEMPT TO AVOID THESE SECTIONS OF THE SUBDIVISION LAWS BY THE STATE, BY ACTING IN CONCERT TO DIVIDE A PARCEL OF LAND INTO SIX OR MORE LOTS OR PARCELS.
SO LIKE CAN LOT SPLITS PRO CAN LOT SPLITS TRIGGER A PROCESS SIMILAR WITH COCHISE COUNTY AND CAN WE HAVE PAD TYPE REQUIREMENTS WHEN THEY DO THAT? NO MORE BUILDING ABOVE THE RIDGELINES.
CAN A LACK OF INFRASTRUCTURE TRIGGER A TEMPORARY MORATORIUM ON NEW CONSTRUCTION? AND THESE ARE JUST IDEAS. AND I KNOW SOME OF THEM WILL BE RADICAL AND WE MIGHT HAVE TO CHANGE THEM.
WE HAVE THE SAME KIND OF THINGS WITH ROADS. CAN WE HAVE SOMETHING IN THE ROADS REQUIREMENT TO WHERE IF A ROAD IS AT AN 80% CAPACITY, WE DON'T ALLOW NEW CONSTRUCTION UNTIL THE COUNTY OR WHOEVER STATE, WHATEVER DOES THEIR PART, TO MAKE SURE THAT ROAD IS GOING TO BE A SAFE, PASSABLE ROAD.
AND MY EXAMPLE IS WILLIAMSON VALLEY ROAD. IT IS A TWO LANE ROAD IN SOME SPOTS.
IT'S GETTING SO BUSY AND WE'RE STARTING TO KILL PEOPLE ON A REGULAR BASIS.
YET WE KEEP BUILDING MORE HOMES, ADDING MORE CARS, AND IT'S GETTING LARGE.
AT PIONEER PARKWAY IN WILLIAMSON VALLEY ROAD.
BUT YOU KNOW WHAT? IT'S AFFECTING OTHER PEOPLE THAT AREN'T DOING THINGS THAT ARE LIKE THAT. AND I TALKED ABOUT THE COUNTY ROAD STANDARDS RECHARGE REQUIREMENTS ARE NOWHERE IN OUR PLAN. AND I THINK DO WE HAVE TO REQUIRE WASTEWATER TREATMENT THAT HAS RECHARGE WITH IT.
AND I LOOK AT IN MY AREA, TALKING ROCK, WHISPERING CANYON, AND INSCRIPTION CANYON ARE ALL ON A SEWER SYSTEM, WHICH IS WHAT WE WANT BECAUSE THERE IS NO RECHARGE OUT OF SEPTIC TANKS.
IT ALL GOES TO SURFACE, BUT THEY TAKE THAT WATER AND PROVIDE FOR THE GOLF COURSE, WHICH.
SO 80% OF THAT IS GROUNDWATER. BUT WHEN THEY HAVE THEIR WASTEWATER, WHY ISN'T THAT 20% GOING IN TO RECHARGE THE AQUIFER? BECAUSE WILLIAMSON VALLEY IS REALLY HAVING A HARD TIME NOW.
CAN WE MAKE PADS MORE DESIRABLE THAN LOT SPLITS?
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HOW CAN WE MAKE IT WHERE PEOPLE WANT TO DO THAT RATHER THAN NOT? AND HOW DO WE SLOW DOWN THE LOT SPLITS SO THEY'RE NOT USED AS A GO AROUND FOR DEVELOPMENT? AND ANOTHER THING TOO IS SOMEHOW I THINK WE HAVE TO STOP THE SUBDIVISIONS THAT DO A TOTAL RIP OUT OF EVERY PIECE OF VEGETATION THAT KNOWS HOW TO LIVE ON WHAT FALLS FROM THE SKY. WE HAVE TONS OF THAT OUT HERE, BUT THE THING NOW IS YOU JUST STRIP THE LAND ENTIRELY AND THEN YOU REBUILD IT.ONE THING I'D LIKE TO SEE IS A MAP OF THE GROWTH THAT'S ALREADY PERMITTED.
WE KEEP HEARING THESE THINGS THAT, WELL, THIS SUBDIVISION WAS PERMITTED IN 2001.
WELL, NOW IT'S IT'S NOW IT'S COMING BEFORE US AGAIN FOR FOR FINAL APPROVAL.
I THINK WE NEED TO HAVE SOME KIND OF NOISE ORDINANCE AND MAYBE SOME OF THIS IN THE FACE OF THE CONSTRUCTION HOURS THAT ARE FORCED ON US ON THE STATE WHERE, OKAY, YOU CAN START CONSTRUCTION, BUT IT BETTER NOT BE ABOVE A CERTAIN DECIBEL TO DESTROY THE QUALITY OF LIFE OF EXISTING RESIDENTS.
AND CAN WE HAVE SOME CODE RELAXATION FOR THE EXTREMELY RURAL LOCATIONS? AND I'M GETTING SOME OF THESE CALLS MORE AND MORE ALL THE TIME.
AND, YOU KNOW, I WAS THINKING, CAN WE SOMEHOW GIVE A SCARLET LETTER PERMIT WHERE THIS GOES ON THERE? AND IT SAYS, YOU KNOW WHAT, THIS IS UNDER A DIFFERENT SET OF REGULATIONS.
YOUR HOUSE MAY NOT HAVE THIS, IT MAY NOT HAVE THAT.
AND IT'S A PERMANENT MARK ON THERE. BUT SOME OF THESE PEOPLE HAVE NO MONEY.
CAN WE HAVE SOME KIND OF CODE RELAXATION OUT THERE? THAT MAKES SENSE. BUT IT FOLLOWS THAT HOME FOREVER BECAUSE YOU MAY NOT REQUIRE THAT TO LIVE IN YOUR IN THAT HOUSE, BUT YOU WILL DIE SOMEDAY. SOMEONE ELSE WILL BE LIVING IN THAT HOUSE.
AND IS IT STILL SAFE? CAN WE HAVE PERSONAL PADS? ALMOST DONE. FEEL FREE. MY GOAL IS TO LET YOU EXPOUND.
THANK YOU. I'M. I'M EXPOUNDING. WHERE ARE WE WITH WHERE ARE WE WITH THE IMPACT FEES? SO GROWTH CAN PAY FOR SOME OF THEIR IMPACT. A STATE LAW TO HELP US GET CONTROL OF THIS AIRBNB SITUATION THAT'S DECIMATING COMMUNITIES. AND IT DOES THAT SOME TO OUR DEGREE AS WELL THAT THAT STATE LAW IS GOING THROUGH AND MAYBE THAT'LL HELP US, BUT WE NEED TO GET THAT AIRBNB SITUATION UNDER CONTROL BECAUSE IT'S RUINING NEIGHBORHOODS AND REALLY EXPLORE THE POTENTIAL IMPACTS OF THE ADU LAWS.
AND I LOOK AT LIKE THE CITY OF PRESCOTT HAS DESIGNATED SO MUCH WATER TO EACH PARCEL IN THE CITY, COUNTING ON A SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENCE. WELL, WHAT IS THAT PORTFOLIO GOING TO DO WHEN ALL OF A SUDDEN YOU CAN HAVE FOUR HOMES SUCKING WATER FROM EVERY SINGLE RESIDENCE? IT JUST BANKRUPTS US.
AND I THINK WE NEED TO HAVE SOMETHING IN HERE THAT ADDRESSES THE TINY HOMES AND MAKE IT EITHER EASIER IN A CERTAIN DESIGNATION, MAYBE A CERTAIN ZONING, BECAUSE THE YOUNG PEOPLE TRAVEL LIGHT.
THEY DON'T WANT GRANDMA'S CHINA HUTCH. THEY WANT TO BE MOBILE, AND IT'S SOMETHING THEY CAN AFFORD BECAUSE YOUR AVERAGE WORKING STIFF CAN AFFORD 3 TO 400,000 AND 400,000 PUSHING THEM, AND THEY JUST HAVE NO PLACE TO LIVE.
AND AS LONG AS YOU'RE YOU'RE PAYING RENT, YOU'RE NEVER GOING TO CREATE WEALTH. AND I LIVE THIS AS A YOUNG PERSON GROWING UP HERE, AND I HATE DOING IT TO THE KIDS THAT ARE GROWING UP HERE NOW.
AND ANOTHER THING LAST THING TO ADDRESS IS THE USE OF CONTAINERS.
WE DIDN'T HAVE THIS. AND RIGHT NOW WE I THINK IT'S 396FT², WHICH GETS YOU 220 OR 140.
BUT THESE THINGS AREN'T JUST STORAGE CONTAINERS, NOT JUST SHEDS ANYMORE.
PEOPLE ARE TURNING THEM INTO HOMES. THEY'RE TURNING THEM INTO SHOPPING MALLS.
THEY'RE USING THEM FOR VAULTS. WHAT IS OUR REAL POSITION ON THESE CONTAINERS? BECAUSE WHAT THEY'RE DOING IS THEY'RE BUYING THEM. THEY'RE POPPING UP ON THE PROPERTY, AND THEN WE'RE TELLING THEM, YOU GOT TO GET RID OF THEM.
SO WE NEED TO HAVE SOME. ARE WE APPROPRIATE WITH THE WAY OUR CONTAINERS ARE? AMEN. THANK YOU SO MUCH, SUPERVISOR KUKNYO. THAT'S THE LONGEST SPEECH I GAVE YOU.
SUPERVISOR. MY GOAL IS TO LET EVERYBODY EXPOUND AND TO TALK AND THEN TO JUST.
NOTHING LEFT. CHRIS GOT IT ALL COVERED FOR US, RIGHT? HE DID. OKAY. SUPERVISOR JENKINS, YOU ARE NEXT.
ALRIGHT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU CHRIS. YOU HIT ON SOME OF MY POINTS AS WELL, SO I'M NOT GOING TO REHASH THOSE, BUT TERRIFIC POINTS. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. I HAVE A LITTLE STICKIES TOO.
I'M ASSUMING YOU'RE TAKING NOTES AS FAST. AS FAST AS I CAN.
YES. THANK YOU. I MAY HAVE TO GO BACK TO THE VIDEO.
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BUT I'M GOING TO DO IT ANYWAY. OKAY. ON PAGE 6 IT'S B.2 AND IT SAYS THE PURPOSE OF THE TRC IS TO REVIEW AND RESOLVE WITH ALL AFFECTED PARTIES, TECHNICAL ISSUES WITH THE PROPOSED SUBDIVISION BEFORE REVIEW AND CONDITIONAL APPROVAL BY THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS.AND WE SHOULD REFER TO WHAT THEIR ACTUAL AUTHORITY IS.
OKAY. I, I DO HAVE A QUESTION IN, IN THE, AND I DO LIKE THE IDEA WHERE YOU'RE NOT RETYPING VERBIAGE FROM THINGS THAT ARE COVERED IN SECTIONS OF OTHER ORDINANCES OR CODES. BUT WHAT IS THE PLAN THAT WHEN THAT THE NUMBERS DON'T CHANGE, IF YOU'RE GOING TO REFER TO LIKE ON PAGE 16, SECTION 547.
ARE YOU GOING TO GUARANTEE THAT 547 IS ALWAYS LANDSCAPING? THAT'S JUST A QUESTION ON HOW DO YOU COORDINATE THAT AS THE YEARS GO BY THAT WHEN YOU REFERENCE THIS SECTION, IT REMAINS THAT SAME NUMBER BECAUSE THAT THAT COULD BE A NIGHTMARE.
OKAY. YOU DON'T HAVE TO ANSWER ME. I'M JUST POINTING OUT THESE THINGS.
WHEN YOU GET TO THE SUBDIVISION, SCHEDULE A, I THINK IT'S A, B AND C.
IF YOU COULD FOR A, B AND C HAVE THE NUMBERING THE SAME, YOUR ONE THROUGH EIGHT.
OH I'M SORRY. PAGES 23, 24, 25 AND 26. SO MY POINT IS, I'D LIKE TO SEE THAT IF, IF SUBDIVISION A NUMBER ONE IS ROADS AND NUMBER ONE IN B AND C NEEDS TO BE ROADS, THE SAME IF TWO IS SIDEWALKS HAVE TWO B SIDEWALKS.
BUT I'D LIKE TO SEE IT SAY NO SIDEWALKS REQUIRED SO THAT THE NUMBERS STAY THE SAME WHEN YOU'RE REFERRING TO THE REQUIREMENTS FOR A, B, AND C, I SEE NIKKI SHAKING HER HEAD. THIS IS NOT GOING TO BE UNEXPECTED BECAUSE I'M GOING TO TALK ABOUT SEWER SYSTEMS AND ENGINEERED TREATMENT PLANTS. AND I MEAN, I WOULD LIKE RIGHT OFF THE BAT, IF YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE THEM, THEY HAVE TO BE RECHARGED. THEY HAVE TO, YOU HAVE TO BE ABLE TO, PARTICULARLY IF YOU HAVE LANDSCAPING, YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S AN INCENTIVE OR IF IT'S A REQUIREMENT, BUT THAT HAS TO BE COVERED SOMEWHERE IN HERE THAT WE SAY WE THAT WE WANT TO ADDRESS WATER ISSUES. THAT'S ONE WAY OF DOING IT IS MAKING SURE THAT WE USE RECHARGE WATER FROM TREATMENT PLANTS.
I WAS A LITTLE CONFUSED ON THE DIFFERENT DRAINAGE REQUIREMENTS FOR A, B, AND C, I CAN I CAN DO THAT OFFLINE AND YOU CAN EXPLAIN TO ME WHY THEY'RE DIFFERENT BECAUSE I JUST DON'T GET IT.
MY NEXT ONE AND AGAIN, YOU DON'T HAVE TO GO INTO DETAIL.
ARE YOU KIND OF COVERED WHAT CLUSTERED SUBDIVISIONS ARE AND BONUSES? TO ME, THAT'S A, I JUST HAVE TO LEARN MORE ABOUT THAT IN ORDER TO GET BEHIND IT.
AND JUST IN GENERAL BONUSES FOR DOING ANYTHING AND YOU KNOW, HOW DO YOU, HOW DO YOU APPLY BONUSES? HOW DO YOU MONITOR, HOW DO YOU DETERMINE THAT THEY GET A BONUS? I THAT'S MY FIRST PASS AT IT. THANK YOU CHAIR.
GREAT. LET'S SEE. I DO HAVE ONE THING I WANT TO NOTE IS THAT THE WATER RESOURCES AND OPEN SPACE COMMITTEE IS ON JUNE 2ND, PLANNING TO COVER POLICIES WITHIN DEVELOPMENT SERVICES AND COMMUNITY SERVICES ORGANIZATIONS THAT CAN HELP MOVE THE NEEDLE FORWARD ON WATER CONSERVATION.
AND SO I KNOW THAT THIS IS REFERENCING THE LANDSCAPE COMPONENT OF THE ZONING ORDINANCE, BUT IT MIGHT BE WORTH ACTUALLY OUTLINING A DESIRE TO SEE WATER CONSERVATION CONSIDERED AND THEN WE'LL DEFINITELY
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LOOK FORWARD TO. I KNOW YAVAPAI COUNTY WILL BE PART OF THE PRESENTATION THERE.I THINK CLARKDALE WILL BE PRESENTING SOME OF THEIR XERISCAPING METHODS.
AND THEN ADDITIONALLY, I WANT TO NOTE THAT IN MY WORK ON GROUNDWATER POLICY AS RURAL ARIZONANS TRY TO INFLUENCE THE STATE AND ENCOURAGE MORE TOOLS TO GO INTO OUR TOOLBOX THAT ARE SOMEWHAT LESS RESTRICTIVE THAN THE GROUNDWATER POLICY THAT ALREADY EXISTS, LIKE THE ACTIVE MANAGEMENT AREA AND THE IRRIGATION NON-EXPANSION AREA.
THE, THE BLOWBACK THAT I GET IS THAT YAVAPAI COUNTY HAS NOT OPTED INTO APPROVING SUBSECTION F OF ARS 11-823, WHICH IS ON NOTED ON PAGE 24 FOR DOMESTIC WATER.
I THINK THAT THAT MAY BE SOMETHING THAT WE BEGIN TO REVISIT, ESPECIALLY AS TO SUPERVISOR KUKNYO COMMENTS, THE MINOR SUBDIVISION AKA WILDCAT SUBDIVISION ISSUES ARE ADDRESSED BOTH BY THE COUNTY AND HOPEFULLY BY THE STATE. I THINK THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT I GOT. SUPERVISOR MALLORY.
THANK YOU CHAIRMAN. I ONLY HAVE A FEW THINGS I WANT TO THANK YOU SUPERVISOR KUKNYO.
YOU YOU DID COVER A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF THINGS.
SO I JUST WOULD LIKE SOME CLARITY AND IT DEFINITELY DOESN'T HAVE TO BE AN ANSWER NOW, BUT I THINK IT NEEDS TO BE AN ANSWER WHEN WE TALK ABOUT THE LAWS THAT THE STATE HAS MADE. SO FOR INSTANCE, I LIVE IN PRESCOTT VALLEY.
I LIVE IN A COMMUNITY CALLED GRANVILLE. I'M RIGHT OFF OF GLASSFORD HILL.
THAT'S BUILDING OUT EIGHT LANES. IF ANYBODY'S FAMILIAR WITH PRESCOTT VALLEY, GLASSFORD HILL THAT'S GOING EIGHT LANES, FOUR ON EACH SIDE. THEY START AND THEY'RE OUT THERE MOVING THEIR TRUCKS AT 3:30 IN THE MORNING.
AS SUPERVISOR KUKNYO REFERENCE THAT WAS GIVEN OVER BY THE STATE TO ALLOW WORK TO START EARLY AS 4 A.M., I BELIEVE. OKAY. WHEN THE STATE MAKES THESE LAWS, ARE WE EVEN ABLE TO MAKE LAWS OF OUR OWN HERE IN YAVAPAI COUNTY? I DON'T NEED AN ANSWER, BUT IT IS A QUESTION BECAUSE WE CONSTANTLY ARE GOING BACK AND FORTH WITH THE STATE.
THE VACATION RENTALS, ALL OF THOSE. AGAIN, THAT WAS DONE BY THE STATE.
CAN WE MAKE ANY LAWS WHEN THEY HAVE MORE OR LESS TO ME BLANKET OUR STATE? AND THE REASON I ASK THESE THINGS IS BECAUSE THERE'S A LOT OF ENERGY RIGHT NOW ABOUT TRYING TO DEAL WITH JUST THESE TWO SUBJECT MATTERS.
AND I DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT, WHAT THAT REALLY LOOKS LIKE.
DO WE HAVE THE ENERGY? AND IF WE DO HAVE THE ENERGY, DO WE HAVE IT AVAILABLE TO US? IS THERE SOMETHING THERE? WE TALK A LOT ABOUT WATER.
BUT AGAIN, WE ARE DEALING WITH THE STATE AND HOW MUCH AUTHORITY OR WHAT KIND OF REGULATIONS CAN THIS BOARD DO IN REGARDS TO WHAT THE STATE HAS BLANKETED US WITH? SO THOSE ARE THREE THINGS, AND THEY ALL PERTAIN TO THE STATE, AND THEY ARE ALL VERY HOT TOPICS IN THIS ROOM AND IN THIS COUNTY FOR SURE. I KNOW THAT THIS PARTICULAR AREA, SEDONA, COTTONWOOD, THE VERDE, THE, THE AIRBNB, THE ALL OF THAT HAS JUST BEEN OVERWHELMING.
AND IT TAKES IT UP TO MY DISTRICT IN THE FOREST AREA.
GROOM CREEK, WALKER, YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE A CABIN, WE'LL SAY IT'S FOUR BEDROOMS, TWO BATHS.
IT'S GETTING RENTED OUT TO 30 PLUS PEOPLE. THAT'S NOT A FAMILY.
SO JUST PUTTING THAT OUT THERE. AND THOSE ARE MY THOSE ARE MY BURNING ISSUES.
HOW DO WE COMBAT THE LAWS OF THE STATE? THANK YOU.
AND THEY DID. AND TO SUPERVISOR KUKNYO POINT ABOUT THE MAP AND THE OUTSTANDING SUBDIVISIONS,
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I ALREADY ASKED FOR THAT MONTHS AGO. AND TYLER GOODMAN HAS THAT MAP OF WHERE THEY ARE AND WHAT WE'RE FACING, NOT JUST IN THE COUNTY, BUT IN THE MUNICIPALITIES AS WELL.WHAT WERE WE FACING? SO THAT WAS ONE OF MY QUESTIONS.
AND TO SUPERVISOR KUKNYO POINT I'LL REEMPHASIZE, I LOVE CONTAINERS.
I LIKE THE CONTAINER HOMES. I LIKE THE, THE INTERESTING PART OF IT.
I, I ENJOY IT I'VE BEEN A PART OF DOING CONTAINER PARKS IN TERMS OF STORAGE STARTING BACK IN 1997 TO REPURPOSE THEM WHEN THEY WERE COMING IN IN NORTHERN CALIFORNIA. AND I JUST THINK IT'S A GREAT THING AND WE NEED TO OPEN IT UP FOR INNOVATIVE IDEAS IN TERMS OF HOUSING OR WHATEVER PEOPLE WANT TO DO WITH THEM. SO THOSE ARE MY POINTS.
AND THEN I DEFINITELY, WE DEFINITELY HAVE TO HEAR FROM PLANNING AND ZONING AND.
COMMISSIONER CHERRY, MAY I START WITH YOU AND JUST GO AROUND THE TABLE AND LISTEN TO YOUR CONCERNS, PLEASE? THANK YOU. CHAIR. THERE'S A LOT OF US, SO I WILL BE SOMEWHAT BRIEF, BUT YOU KNOW, THE SUBDIVISIONS IN THIS COUNTY HAVE LONG BEEN A POINT OF DIFFICULTY.
THE WILDCAT SUBDIVISIONS IF YOU WILL CALL THEM THAT, ARE A MASSIVE PROBLEM HERE.
I THINK WE TALKED ABOUT THAT SIX MONTHS AGO WHEN WE ALL MET.
THE GOAL HERE IS TO TRY TO GET DEVELOPERS TO CONSIDER SUBDIVISIONS MORE AS OPPOSED TO JUST LOT SPLITTING AND, AND YOU KNOW, THE SUPERVISOR KUKNYO YOU BROUGHT UP SANTA YNEZ DOWN THERE IN SKULL VALLEY, YOU KNOW, IT'S LIKE, DAMNED IF YOU DO, DAMNED IF YOU DON'T ON THAT ONE.
IT I FELT AS A COMMISSIONER THAT THAT WAS ON THE RIGHT TRACK, BUT I DEFER TO THE BOARD.
THE BOARD FELT OTHERWISE. NOW WE'RE FACING POTENTIAL CONSEQUENCES WITH THAT.
SO, YOU KNOW, THIS THIS STAFF HERE AT YAVAPAI COUNTY, AND I'M NOT JUST REFERRING TO DEVELOPMENT SERVICES, BUT OTHER INVOLVED DEPARTMENTS ARE TRYING TO GET A BETTER HANDLE ON THESE SUBDIVISION REGULATIONS, WITH THE GOAL OF TRYING TO ENCOURAGE DEVELOPERS THAT IF THEY'RE GOING TO DEVELOP HERE AND WE ALL RECOGNIZE THAT THEY ARE GOING TO DEVELOP HERE, TO DO IT SMARTLY AND TO DO WAYS THAT ARE TRYING TO REDUCE IMPACTS TO THE ENVIRONMENT AND TRYING TO FIND WAYS TO REDUCE IMPACTS TO WATER. BUT IT'S A DIFFICULT PROBLEM. AND THERE'S NO, YOU KNOW, SILVER BULLET TO SOLVE THIS ISSUE.
SO, YOU KNOW, I'M ON THE TAG, THE TECHNICAL ADVISORY GROUP REPRESENTING THE COMMISSION ON THIS.
AND I CERTAINLY APPRECIATE ALL OF YOUR OPINIONS ON THIS MATTER, AND I CERTAINLY WILL KEEP THOSE IN MIND AS WE'RE GOING FORWARD WITH THESE YOU KNOW, PROPOSED CHANGES TO THE SUBDIVISION REGULATIONS.
AND IF YOU FEEL THERE ARE THINGS THAT WE SHOULD DO, WE NEED TO GET THE ATTORNEYS INVOLVED BECAUSE THERE ARE SOME THINGS WE CAN DO AND SOME THINGS WE CAN'T DO. AS WE ALL KNOW WITH REGARDS TO STATE LAW.
SO GREAT FEEDBACK. I GREATLY APPRECIATE THAT AND I'LL DEFER MY TIME TO OTHERS AT THIS POINT.
COMMISSIONER GRIFFIS, YOU HAVE 30S. THAT IS SO UNFAIR.
WHERE'S MY ATTORNEY? IT'S OVER THERE. SO FIRST OF ALL, MR. EASTMAN, THANK YOU TO YOUR TEAM FOR WORKING ON THIS DOCUMENT.
IT'S VERY WELL APPRECIATED, AND I, LOTS OF GOOD STUFF.
I HAVE A FEW COMMENTS. I'M NOT GOING TO GO ALL OVER ALL OF THEM, BUT I WILL EMAIL YOU.
SO ON PAGE FIVE UNDER SECTION A.60, IT SAYS THESE REGULATIONS ARE INTENDED TO IMPLEMENT THE GOALS AND POLICIES OF THE YAVAPAI COUNTY COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
I HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THE WORD IMPLEMENT. I FEEL THAT IT SHOULD MAYBE SAY AND SUPPORT THE YAVAPAI COUNTY COMPREHENSIVE PLAN BECAUSE THAT PLAN IS NOT A CODE DOCUMENT.
SO JUST ONE OF MY CONCERNS ON PAGE SEVEN. WHAT WAS [INAUDIBLE] OH, THAT WAS THE SECTION B.30, B.30 MODIFICATIONS AND WAIVERS.
I FEEL THAT THE WAIVER SECTION SHOULD BE AT THE END OF THE DOCUMENT.
WAIVERS IN ALL OF OUR OTHER DOCUMENTS ARE NORMALLY AT THE END.
SO I WOULD LIKE TO SEE YOU CONSIDER MOVING THAT.
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THERE ARE NUMEROUS STATEMENTS IN HERE, MR. EASTMAN, WHERE THE WORD APPROVAL IS USED.SO IF YOU COULD CATCH ALL OF THOSE, PLEASE. PAGE 12.
AND I'M SURE WITH MR. CHERRY SITTING RIGHT NEXT TO ME UNDER TRAFFIC IMPACT ANALYSIS, IT SAYS THAT EACH SUBDIVISION SHALL ACCOMMODATE THE ANTICIPATED TRAFFIC VOLUME AS DETERMINED BY A TRAFFIC IMPACT ANALYSIS OR TRAFFIC IMPACT STUDY, UNLESS WAIVED BY THE PUBLIC WORKS DIRECTOR.
DO YOU AGREE? CERTAINLY THERE ARE CASES IN WHICH BOTH ARE INVOLVED.
SO, YOU KNOW. CERTAINLY, MR. EASTMAN, I THINK YOU KNOW, EXPANSION OF THAT SECTION TO.
INCLUDE A DOT, IF APPLICABLE, OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
THANK YOU, MR. CHERRY. ON PAGE 13. UNDER C.40, THE WILDFIRE HAZARD MITIGATION. I'M CONCERNED ABOUT THOSE STANDARDS.
I FEEL THEY DEFINITELY NEED MORE REVIEW AND CONVERSATION.
AND WHAT'S IN HERE. I FEEL AGAIN IT NEEDS MORE WORK.
THERE NEEDS TO BE MORE COMMUNICATION BECAUSE THIS IS A BIGGER ISSUE.
AND BY PUTTING IT IN A LITTLE PARAGRAPH DOES NOT SUPPORT WHAT REALLY NEEDS TO BE DONE.
SO I'LL BE HAPPY TO TALK TO YOU ABOUT THAT. IF YOU'D LIKE TO TALK TO ME.
PAGE 20 AGAIN, I DIDN'T UNDERSTAND THIS ONE UNDER THIS WAS YOUR NEW SECTION AND IT'S OPTIONAL TEXT FOR THE STAFF TO CONSIDER, BUT UNDER C.B WHERE NECESSARY TO DETERMINE THAT LOTS WILL BE USABLE.
ANYTHING CAN BE BUILT ON A LOT. WE CAN BUILD ON ANY, LOT, ANYTHING.
BECAUSE IF SOMEBODY WANTS TO PERMIT ON A SPECIFIC LOT, WE HAVE BUILDING CODE PROCESSES AND RULES AND REGULATIONS THAT WILL WORK WITH THAT. SO I'M KIND OF CONCERNED ABOUT SOME OF THOSE STATEMENTS.
GO AHEAD. YEAH. COMMISSIONER IF I COULD RESPOND TO THAT.
THIS IS THE CODE DIRECTLY FROM THE CITY OF PHOENIX.
AND WE'RE NOT SUGGESTING THAT IN ITS CURRENT FORM IT WOULD BE PUT INTO YOUR REGULATIONS.
PERFECT. IT WAS OFFERED AS A SAMPLE FOR STAFF CONSIDERATION.
WE HAVEN'T HAD THAT CONVERSATION YET, BUT WE WILL.
IS THIS ON THE RIGHT TRACK FOR HILLSIDE DEVELOPMENT AREA OR IS IT NOT? AND WE'VE HEARD FROM SUPERVISOR KUKNYO YOU KNOW, ABOUT RIDGELINES AND OTHER SUPERVISORS.
SO THIS HELPS US GET THERE. BUT THIS IS NOT THE FINAL CODE LANGUAGE.
PERFECT, I REALIZE THAT. SO I'D LIKE IT TO BE RED TAGGED.
AND THEN PAGE 22. I BELIEVE THIS SAYS MAXIMUM DRIVEWAY GRADE SHALL NOT EXCEED 20%.
THE CITY OF PRESCOTT IS LOWER THAN 20% AND I THINK THAT NUMBER IS TOO HIGH.
THIS IS PHOENIX AGAIN. COMMISSIONER. YEAH. SO IT'S JUST AN EXAMPLE.
OKAY. RIGHT ON THE MONEY SANDY. THANK YOU CHAIR.
I WILL JUST STOP WITH THAT. I DO HAVE MORE AND I WILL COME, YES, I WILL, THANK YOU, MR. EASTMAN. THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER GRIFFIS. COMMISSIONER PAIZ.
THANK YOU. CHAIR. THIS IS WHY I DIDN'T WANT TO SIT NEXT TO HER.
THAT BEING SAID I'M VERY HAPPY WITH. FIRST OF ALL, MR. COMMISSIONER. I'M SORRY. SUPERVISOR KUKNYO'S COMMENTS, ALL OF THEM THERE WERE SPOT ON.
MANY OF THEM I COULD COMMENT ON, BUT I THINK SHE TOOK CARE OF THAT.
AND IN PARTICULAR, I'M VERY, VERY PLEASED TO SEE CHANGE AND ADDITIONS AND REFINEMENTS OF THE FIRE PROTECTION REQUIREMENTS IN THE OLD SUBDIVISION REGULATIONS. THEY WERE VERY LAX OR ABSENT AND AND IT CAUSED A LOT OF STAFF WORK.
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BECAUSE WE LIVE IN THE WILDLAND URBAN INTERFACE IN THIS COUNTY, THROUGHOUT THE COUNTY, EVEN IN THE CITIES.AND I UNDERSTAND THAT, YOU KNOW, DOES CAUSE MORE STAFF WORK BY THE COUNTY.
IT DOES. AND PARTICULARLY IF WE ADOPT IT IN CONJUNCTION WITH THE INTERNATIONAL FIRE CODE.
I KNOW THERE'S A LOT OF RESISTANCE TO THAT BY BUILDING AND SAFETY.
I GET IT, IT COSTS MONEY. AT SOME POINT, WE'RE JUST GOING TO HAVE TO FIGURE A WAY TO MAKE THIS WORK.
BECAUSE FIRE PROTECTION AND LIFE SAFETY IS PARAMOUNT IN OUR LIVES.
AND IN PARTICULAR RIGHT NOW, THAT CODE WOULD REALLY BE INSTRUMENTAL IN CREATING THAT ENVIRONMENT THAT THE INSURANCES WOULD CERTAINLY LOOK AT WE'RE HAVING THOSE ISSUES IN DISTRICT ONE.
WE'RE ADDRESSING THOSE ISSUES IN DISTRICT ONE AND WE'RE GETTING SOME GOOD EFFECT, BUT AGAIN, WE DON'T HAVE THOSE CODES ADOPTED YET. WE WORK, WE'RE WORKING ON THOSE IN OUR DISTRICTS OUT THERE.
IF WE DID IT IN THE COUNTY, IT WOULD ENCOURAGE DISTRICTS TO ADOPT THEM WITHIN THEIR OWN, SIMILAR TO SOME OF THE OTHER ORDINANCES AND REGULATIONS THAT THIS BOARD HAS HAS ENACTED. BUT I DON'T WANT TO BELABOR THE ISSUE.
A LOT OF THE ISSUES THAT YOU ADDRESSED SUPERVISOR KUKNYO ARE ADDRESSED IN HERE WITH RELATION TO THOSE IGAS THAT YOU MENTIONED BETWEEN ALL THE VARIOUS AGENCIES. IT COMES DOWN TO IF THIS SUBDIVISION IS WITHIN THREE MILES OF A SPECIFIC FIRE PROTECTION DISTRICT OR AGENCY, THAT IS THE AGENCY HAVING JURISDICTION. WE'VE HAD THOSE DISPUTES IN DISTRICT ONE, AND THIS RESOLVES A LOT OF THOSE ISSUES.
SO I THINK THAT INCLUSION WAS VERY INSTRUMENTAL IN ADDRESSING THAT CONCERN THAT YOU HAVE.
THEY'RE PUTTING THESE SUBDIVISIONS OUT IN THE RURAL AREAS AWAY FROM THOSE DISTRICTS, PROBABLY INTENTIONALLY SO THAT, YOU KNOW, THE FIGHT COULD BE HAD HERE IN COURT RATHER THAN OUT THERE IN THE FIELD WHERE WE CAN FIX THEM.
AND I APPRECIATE THE ADDITION OF THOSE CODES AND REGULATIONS AND, AND THE ADDRESS FOR THAT AS TO THE HILLSIDE DEVELOPMENT RIDGE TOP DEVELOPMENT. I'M ALL I'M ALL BEHIND YOUR STATEMENT.
YOU KNOW, I LIKE THE SUNSETS. I LIKE THE SUNRISES.
I DON'T LIKE TO SEE HOUSES ON TOP OF PEAKS. THAT'S NOT WHERE THEY BELONG.
THANK YOU. THANK YOU SIR. COMMISSIONER COTHERN.
THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN. [INAUDIBLE] IS A STATEMENT COMING TOWARDS THE END OF THE DISCUSSION.
EVERYTHING HAS BEEN SAID. I WILL JUST PREPARE A COUPLE OF THINGS.
I HAVE A LOT OF CONCERNS ABOUT ADUS MYSELF. THE LOT SPLITS AND PRIMARILY WITH THE, THE STATE LEGISLATURE TAKING A LOT OF THIS OUT OF OUR HANDS AND MAYBE NOT DOING IT CORRECTLY.
I WOULD LIKE TO SEE SOMETHING HAPPEN TO CHANGE THAT.
THANK YOU SIR. COMMISSIONER EASTWOOD. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
SO AGAIN SUPERVISOR KUKNYO REALLY CAUGHT IT ALL.
YOU KNOW, HE CALLED ME AND I GAVE HIM ALL HIS NOTES, AND THEN IT WAS DONE, SO.
NO, I'M JUST JOKING. I THINK ON THE LOT SPLITS FOR ME, IT'S GOING TO BE THERE.
AND ONE OF THE THINGS IT'S AND I JUST I HAD ACTUALLY HAD EIGHT ACRES.
AND ONE OF THE THINGS WE DID IS A ROAD AGREEMENT. AND I THINK IF YOU TAKE THESE 40 ACRE PARCELS AND THE GUY GOES IN AND SPLITS THEM, YOU KNOW, DOWN TO THE TEN, TEN, TEN, THERE SHOULD BE A ROAD AGREEMENT IN THERE BECAUSE WHO'S TAKING CARE OF THESE ROADS? AND YOU KNOW, YOU GO OUT THERE AND THEY'RE BUMPY AND THEY'RE GREAT AND EVERYTHING ELSE. WELL, NOW LET'S SAY, HEY, WE TAKE THEM, WE SPLIT THEM AGAIN DOWN TO TWO. SO THERE'S FIVE MORE. AT LEAST THE ROAD AGREEMENTS ARE IN THERE TRYING TO COVER THAT SITUATION BECAUSE AGAIN, THE COUNTY DOESN'T HAVE THE MONEY TO SIT THERE AND COVER THE ROADS. AND THE OTHER ONE JUST LOOKING GOING THROUGH THE HOUSE IS MAYBE IT'S TWO ACRE PARCELS.
I MEAN, WATER IS AN ISSUE AND WE ALL TALK ABOUT IT.
WHY NOT HAVE THE THE BUILDER? AND I DIDN'T THINK ABOUT IT AGAIN.
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IT WAS MY FIRST ONE AND I'M NOT A BUILDER. DID AN OWNER BUILD AND I WENT THROUGH AN ARCHITECT, BUT I WISH I WOULD HAVE DESIGNED A GRAY WATER SYSTEM FOR MY LANDSCAPE.SO WHY NOT MAKE IT MANDATORY THAT IF YOU'RE BUILDING THESE HOUSES, YOU GOT TO PUT ONE IN, YOU PUT A TANK AND THAT GOES FOR YOUR LANDSCAPE, AND WE COULD SAVE SOME WATER THAT WAY AND GO IN.
THAT'S MY COMMENTS. THANK YOU. THANK YOU SIR.
COMMISSIONER RADOCCIA. YEAH. ON LOT SPLITS I, I'LL REFER TO CLARKDALE. OVER THERE. YOU'RE ALLOWED TO SPLIT THREE TIMES.
IT USED. WE NEVER WENT TO THE FIVE LOT SPLIT REGULATION.
THE OTHER THING ABOUT THAT IS THAT THE ORIGINAL PARCEL OF LAND, ONCE IT'S PURCHASED BY SOMEONE, THEY CAN SPLIT IT 3 OR 5 TIMES. BUT THEN ANYBODY ELSE WHO BUYS THAT PARCEL BUYS WITHIN THAT PARCEL CANNOT SPLIT IT MORE THAN THE ORIGINAL REQUIREMENT OF 3 OR 5 LOTS UNLESS THEY CREATE A SUBDIVISION.
SO IT REALLY PREVENTS THE WILDCAT THING GOING ON.
SO I'M NOT CLEAR. MAYBE ROGER CAN TALK ABOUT THAT OR ADDRESS IT SOMEHOW.
WHY THAT CAN'T BE, PART OF THE PART OF THIS SUBDIVISION REGULATION.
SO THE OTHER THING IS BUILDING ENVELOPES AGAIN.
I KNOW. THAT TO CREATE A BUILDING ENVELOPE, I REMEMBER WAY BACK WHEN I WON'T MENTION NAMES, BUT WE HAD A CONTRACTOR WHO WAS BUILDING A SUBDIVISION AND IN AGAIN IN CLARKDALE AND THAT CONTRACTOR CAME IN AND JUST GRUBBED THE ENTIRE 40 ACRES.
IT WAS A MESS. I KNOW WE WERE, WE GOT REALLY AGGRAVATED WITH IT AND MADE HIM PUT BACK.
WE, WE CREATED MADE HIM PUT BACK THE, THE NATIVE LANDSCAPING AS HE BUILT OUT THE SUBDIVISION.
BUT THE BUILDING ENVELOPE FOOTPRINT HE IGNORED IT.
AND AND JUST GRABBED EVERYTHING. SO TO HAVE AN ENVELOPE RESTRICTION OR AN ENVELOPE SQUARE FOOTAGE WITH THE SUBDIVISION PLAT, I THINK ADDRESSES THE FACT THAT YOU JUST DON'T DESTROY THE, THE, THE NATIVE LANDSCAPING.
IT'S, I THINK IT'S A REAL PROBLEM WITH JUST YOU KNOW, GOING IN AND THEN HAVING TO REPLANT THINGS THAT, AND IN SOME CASES THE THE LANDSCAPE PLANT LIST IN SOME AREAS IS RIDICULOUS. IT'S LIMITING AND, AND SO I THINK THAT CREATES A PROBLEM TO KEEP THINGS IN THE NATURAL SETTING IS, I THINK VERY IMPORTANT. CERTAINLY CERTAINLY RECHARGE AND GRAY WATER.
THOSE ARE NO BRAINERS. I MEAN, THEY SHOULD JUST BE THERE.
I CAN GO ON. I, YOU KNOW, RIDGETOP BUILDING ON RIDGE TOPS IS, YOU KNOW, IT DOES DESTROY THE LANDSCAPE FOR EVERYBODY.
MAYBE OTHER THAN THAT PARTICULAR A LANDOWNER.
BUT SO I THINK THESE ARE ALL THINGS. I THINK THERE'S A LOT OF WORK HERE TO DO.
AND I THINK, ROGER, YOU'VE DONE A GOOD JOB OF KIND OF OUTLINING IT FOR FOR ALL OF US TO BE ABLE TO COMMENT INTO AND FOR YOU TO. SO THANK YOU. THANK YOU SIR. COMMISSIONER OBERG.
I THINK THEY'RE RELEVANT. THEY NEED TO BE ADDRESSED.
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SO MORE POWER TO YOU TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO, HOW TO ADDRESS THAT AND MOVE US IN THE DIRECTION WE WOULD LIKE TO GO PURSUANT TO THE FACT THAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO CONSIDER WHAT THE STATE REGULATIONS ARE GOING TO ALLOW US TO DO. SO I THINK THAT'S IMPORTANT.AND THEN ALL OF A SUDDEN, WITHIN SIX MONTHS OR EVEN LESS INCOME, THE WAIVERS.
WE WANT TO WAIVER THIS, WE WANT TO WAIVER THAT.
WE WANT TO WAIVER SOMETHING ELSE. SO I KNOW THAT ORIGINALLY IN, YOU KNOW, DECIDING THE AGREEMENT THAT WAS, YOU KNOW, BROUGHT THROUGH P&Z AND EVENTUALLY BROUGHT TO THE COUNTY, YOU KNOW, THE APPLICANT WAS SAYING, I'M WILLING TO DO THIS. I WILL GO AHEAD AND INCORPORATE THIS INTO MY INTO MY PLANS.
BUT THEN ONCE THEY GET IT APPROVED, THEN THEY, THEY, THEY, THEY WANT TO START CHANGING IT.
AND I WON'T GO INTO SOME OF WHAT THEY WERE, BUT THEY'RE PRETTY RIDICULOUS.
SO I THINK IT'S VERY IMPORTANT FOR US TO MAKE SURE THAT PEOPLE UNDERSTAND THAT WAIVER SHOULD BE FOR SOMETHING THAT'S VERY UNEXPECTED, VERY UNUSUAL, AND NOT SOMETHING THAT CAN BE USED TO TRY AND GET AROUND THE FACT THAT THEY HAD TO MAKE AN AGREEMENT TO GET IT PASSED. BUT NOW THAT THEY'VE GOT IT PASSED, THEY WANT TO START MAKING CHANGES.
SO I WOULD JUST HOPE THAT WE LOOK AT TRYING TO MAKE THE WAIVERS VERY CLEAR ON WHAT, YOU KNOW, WHAT WE'RE EXPECTING AND MAKE SURE THAT, YOU KNOW, WE DON'T GO BACK AGAINST OUR ORIGINAL AGREEMENT BECAUSE I, I THINK IN A LOT OF CASES I'VE SEEN THINGS THAT WERE DONE PROBABLY NOT FOR THE BEST BENEFIT OF THE COMMUNITY.
IT WAS DONE MORE FOR THE DEVELOPER AND HIS, HIS BOTTOM LINE.
SO THAT'S THE ONLY THING I THINK WE NEED TO TAKE A LOOK AT THAT.
IT HASN'T ALREADY BEEN ADDRESSED. THANK YOU. THANKS, SIR.
COMMISSIONER BUCHANAN. GOOD MORNING AND THANK YOU.
THIS IS A FANTASTIC MEETING AND I ALWAYS APPRECIATE THE JOINT SESSION IN THAT IT HELPS IN OUR ROLE AS PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSIONERS TO DO BETTER WORK. WE TYPICALLY RECEIVE REALLY SOLID PACKAGES FROM STAFF ON SPECIFIC APPLICANT ISSUES AND OUR CONSULTANTS IN THIS CASE FOR THE BROADER WORK OF COMPLETELY REVIEWING AND REWRITING THE CODE AS NECESSARY IS A FUNDAMENTALLY IMPORTANT UNDERTAKING AT THIS AT THIS POINT IN YAVAPAI COUNTY'S HISTORY.
SO IT'S EXCITING TO BE A PART OF THAT. I APPRECIATE SUPERVISOR MALLORY'S REFERENCE TO THE ALWAYS UNDERSTANDING THE HIGHER AUTHORITY, THE STATE HAVING THE OPPORTUNITY TO IMPOSE LEGISLATION THAT THEN WE AS A COUNTY ABIDE BY.
AND ALSO THE RECOGNIZING THE DISTINCTION BETWEEN THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS, DECISION MAKING AUTHORITY, AND OUR PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION REVIEWING AUTHORITY.
GRATEFUL FOR THE COMPOSITION OF OUR PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION RIGHT NOW.
THAT INCLUDES EXPERTISE FROM FORMER COUNTY STAFF AS WELL AS FORMER COUNTY SUPERVISORS.
ALL OF THESE TOPICS THAT WE'VE COVERED TODAY IMPACT US IN SOME WAY.
AND AT THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION LEVEL, THERE'S ISSUES THAT ARE IN OUR REVIEW PACKETS AS TECHNICAL COMMENTS FROM ENVIRONMENTAL FIRE CODE, TRAFFIC AND WATER THAT ARE ACTUALLY OUT OF OUR PURVIEW IN IN OUR DECISION MAKING PROCESS.
BUT WE KNOW HOW IMPORTANT THEY ARE TO THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS IN THEIR ROLE.
SO I THINK THE MOST FIERCE AND FORENSIC LOOK THAT WE CAN TAKE AT OUR CODE AND MAKE IT AS BOTH COMPELLING, BUT ALSO I APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY FOR MORE CARROT THAN STICK.
AS WE LOOK AT ISSUES SUCH AS CONTAINER BUILDING, I'M CHECKING IN VIRTUALLY TODAY FROM LAS VEGAS AND I'VE BEEN WORKING IN AN ENTIRE SHOPPING COMPLEX THAT'S DONE AS FROM CONTAINERS.
AND I'VE ALSO STAYED IN CONTAINER HOUSING ON DIFFERENT TRAVEL THINGS.
AND I THINK WHAT IT OFFERS IS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR THE COUNTY TO BE BOTH INNOVATIVE, BUT ALSO RESPONSIBLE IN THE PLANNING PROCESS IS IMPORTANT. TO VICE CHAIR CHECKS POINT ABOUT THE THE INCREASED HOUSING THROUGH ALTERNATIVE DWELLING UNITS
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ON RESIDENTIAL LOTS, LOTS THAT WERE PREVIOUSLY FOR A SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENCE.IT ALMOST CREATES LIKE A MINI CLUSTER ON A RESIDENTIAL LOT, AND FOR US TO BE PROACTIVE ABOUT SCOPING THAT IN A WAY THAT DOES ALLOW FOR THE DUPLEX OR TRIPLEX CONCEPT, INSTEAD OF GOING WITH REALLY EXTENSIVE LOT COVERAGE WITH SCATTERED UNITS AROUND THE LARGER LOT. AGAIN, BACK TO THE MORE CARROT AND STICK.
I LIKE THE CONSIDERATION OF DENSITY BONUSES. I THINK IT'S SOMETHING WE NEED TO DELVE DEEPER INTO AND, AND JUST DO THE BEST WE CAN TO COME UP WITH A BALANCE RIGHT NOW.
IN ADDITION TO SERVING AS A DISTRICT TWO PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSIONER, I ALSO AM ON THE TECHNICAL ADVISORY GROUP AND I SINCERELY APPRECIATE THE WORK OF THE TEAM IN MOVING US FORWARD IN THAT PROCESS.
ULTIMATELY, BEING HERE VIRTUALLY TODAY REMINDS ME A LOT OF WHAT IT'S LIKE TO BE A MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC WHO CANNOT BE IN PERSON AT A MEETING BECAUSE WE TYPICALLY DO THEM IN ON BUSINESS DAYS DURING WORKING HOURS.
AND I KNOW THAT THERE'S A LOT OF INTEREST IN THIS MEETING TODAY.
AND I THINK THE FACT THAT THIS MEETING IS RECORDED AND THE VIDEO REMAINS AVAILABLE TO ALL OF THE INTERESTED PARTIES IS SUPER IMPORTANT BECAUSE OUR ROLE IN COMMUNITY EDUCATION AND COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT TO BEST INFORM THIS PROCESS IS ESSENTIAL. SO I REMAIN COMMITTED TO DOING MY BEST ON IT.
AND I THINK THIS JOINT SESSION TODAY IS SO PRODUCTIVE.
YOU MAY BE IN THE CONTAINER MALL DOWNTOWN LAS VEGAS ON FREMONT STREET.
THAT'S WHERE YOU ARE? YES, ALMOST EVERY SINGLE DAY.
AND IT'S JUST ANOTHER USE FOR CONTAINERS THAT I LOVED.
IT PROVIDES LOW INCOME SPACES FOR PEOPLE TO START THEIR BUSINESSES.
AND THAT'S. YES. AND IT IS SUCCESSFUL ON AN EXTREMELY EXPENSIVE STREET LIKE FREMONT.
SO AT THIS TIME WE'RE JUST GOING TO TAKE IT. WE'LL COME BACK AT THE TOP OF THE HOUR.
AND THEN, MR. EASTMAN, YOU CAN RESPOND TO PEOPLE'S QUESTIONS AND CONCERNS AT THAT TIME. OKAY.
BE RIGHT BACK. THANKS. OKAY. WE'RE BACK IN SESSION.
AND AGAIN, REITERATING THIS WAS VERY MUCH AN ADMINISTRATIVE DRAFT INCOMPLETE.
AND WHAT YOU'VE HELPED US DO IS NOW FILL IN SOME OF THOSE GAPS AND GIVE US DIRECTION ON WHERE TO GO.
SO IN NO PARTICULAR ORDER HERE, I WAS JUST WRITING NOTES ON A COUPLE OF THE THINGS THAT I'VE HEARD.
IT'S VERY CLEAR THAT WE NEED TO FIND A WAY TO INCLUDE STRONGER FIRE WISE FIRE PROTECTION PROVISIONS IN THE SUBDIVISION REGULATIONS. I'M NOT SURE WE WANT TO GO AS FAR AS SAYING, HEY, THE COUNTY IS GOING TO ADOPT THE INTERNATIONAL WILDLIFE URBAN INTERFACE CODE. THERE'S LOTS OF IMPLICATIONS FROM THAT BIG STEP, BUT WE CAN AT LEAST TAKE THE FIRST STEP IN GETTING BASIC FIREWISE STANDARDS BASED ON OUR EXPERIENCE IN WYOMING AND ELSEWHERE. SO YOU'LL SEE THAT IN THE NEXT DRAFT.
EXCUSE ME. COMMISSIONER RADOCCIA, YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT LOT SPLITS IN CLARKDALE.
WELL, THE BIG DIFFERENCE BETWEEN COUNTIES AND CITIES, THESE TITLE NINE APPLIES TO CITIES AND TOWNS, AND TITLE 11 APPLIES TO COUNTIES AND THE LOT SPLIT RULES ARE DIFFERENT, AND AS MUCH AS WE'D LOVE TO APPLY THE TITLE NINE PROVISIONS IN YAVAPAI, WE REALLY CAN'T DO THAT. BUT YOUR POINT IS WELL TAKEN THAT WE HAVE TO COMPLY WITH ARIZONA REVISED STATUTES.
AND REGARDING THAT I'M ON THE ARIZONA PLANNING ASSOCIATION LEGISLATIVE AFFAIRS COMMITTEE JUST AS AN OBSERVER AND I MISSED THE LAST TWO CALLS AND I'LL BE ON THE CALL TOMORROW.
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SOME OF THEM HAVE RELATED TO SHORT TERM VACATION RENTALS, WHETHER THEY'RE SUCCESSFUL OR NOT.HILLSIDES VERY PRELIMINARY LANGUAGE WAS IN THE CODE.
I'M THRILLED TO HEAR, I THINK CONSENSUS ON THE IDEA OF STOPPING DEVELOPMENT ON RIDGELINES.
OBVIOUSLY, YOU CAN'T DO ANYTHING FOR PLATTED SUBDIVISIONS AS THEY EXIST WITH HOMES ON RIDGELINES, BUT ANYTHING MOVING FORWARD, WE CAN CERTAINLY DO OUR BEST WITHIN THE CONSTRAINTS OF PROPOSITION 207 AND WITHIN THE CONSTRAINTS OF ZONING.
FIND A WAY USING PHOENIX AS A GUIDE AND OTHER, OTHER ORDINANCES THAT WE'RE AWARE OF.
I ALSO HEARD THAT RECHARGE AND LANDSCAPING ARE VERY, VERY IMPORTANT ISSUE.
THANK YOU FOR THE CLARIFICATION ON THOSE ISSUES.
THEY ARE MUCH APPRECIATED. THE CONVERSATION ABOUT WAIVERS I FOUND VERY INTERESTING TOO.
THERE'S GOT TO BE A REALLY UNUSUAL CIRCUMSTANCE THAT MAKES THE NEED FOR A WAIVER.
DO YOU HAVE? OH, GO RIGHT AHEAD. THANK YOU. CHAIR.
MR. EASTMAN, I DON'T THINK IT'S SO MUCH LIMITING THE WAIVERS, BUT MAKING IT CORRECT ME.
COMMISSIONER OBERG. BUT MAKING IT MORE DIFFICULT TO OBTAIN A WAIVER IS WHAT IT WOULD BE MY THOUGHT.
[INAUDIBLE] I GO BACK TO MY IDEA OF BEING VERY UNUSUAL, SOMETHING THAT WAS TOTALLY UNANTICIPATED RATHER THAN JUST TRYING TO GET, YOU KNOW, AN AGREEMENT SO THAT THEY CAN MOVE FORWARD AND THEN TRY AND CHANGE IT LATER.
CERTAINLY. THANK YOU CHAIR. AND I KIND OF WANTED TO WEIGH IN ON THAT A LITTLE BIT AS WELL.
FOR MR. EASTMAN'S YOU KNOW, THOUGHTS, BUT IT'S WAIVERS ARE A DOUBLE EDGED SWORD.
YOU KNOW, THERE'S GOOD REASONS TO GIVE WAIVERS A LOT OF TIMES.
YOU KNOW, THEY, THEY WERE ROAD STANDARD WAIVERS.
AND, YOU KNOW, IN MY PREVIOUS ROLE WITH PUBLIC WORKS, YOU KNOW, WE, WE HONESTLY KIND OF ENCOURAGED THEM TO SEEK THOSE WAIVERS BECAUSE WE WERE TRYING TO REDUCE THE HILLSIDE IMPACTS FOR STRING FIELD RANCH.
NOW I'M LIVING RIGHT NEAR IT MYSELF. I CAN TELL YOU THEY WEREN'T REDUCED BY MUCH, BUT IF YOU HAD BUILT THOSE ROADS TO THOSE STANDARDS THAT WERE IN THE THE DEVELOPMENT OR DESIGN STANDARDS FOR THE COUNTY, YOU WOULD HAVE HAD EVEN BIGGER CUT SECTIONS THAT, YOU KNOW, YOU COULD SEE FROM MILES AND MILES AWAY.
SO, YOU KNOW, COULD THERE HAVE BEEN BETTER APPLICATION OF WAIVERS, YOU KNOW, TO REDUCE YOUR OR THE CUTS TO MAYBE CREATE STEEPER SECTIONS SO YOU'RE NOT MOVING QUITE AS MUCH MATERIAL ASSOCIATED WITH THOSE ROADS POTENTIALLY.
I THINK WAIVERS ARE APPLICABLE AT TIMES, BUT [INAUDIBLE] THAT'S OKAY. I'D LIKE TO REQUEST TO BE MOVED AWAY FROM AI.
SO ANYWAY, JUST FOOD FOR THOUGHT. I CERTAINLY APPRECIATE THAT IF WE'RE ADOPTING STANDARDS THAT WE EXPECT A DEVELOPER TO ABIDE BY THOSE STANDARDS. BUT THERE MAY BE TIMES IN WHICH WE NEED TO HAVE SOME CONVERSATIONS BECAUSE EVERY PROJECT'S DIFFERENT.
SO THANK YOU. THANK YOU. SANDY, IS YOUR PHONE OFF?
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ALWAYS. IT'S PROOF. ALL RIGHT. MR. EASTMAN, THANK THANK YOU FOR THAT.SO WHAT WE COULD DO IS TIE THE ISSUANCE OF WAIVERS, LIKE YOU DO FOR A VARIANCE IN ZONING TO HARDSHIP, WHICH IS, I THINK I'M HEARING COMMISSIONER OBERG TALK ABOUT.
FINALLY OF MY MAJOR POINTS HERE, THE WHOLE CONCEPT OF CLUSTERING APPEARS TO BE SUPPORTED BY, BY THE GROUP AS A WHOLE WITH DENSITY BONUSES.
WE'VE JUST GOT TO FIGURE OUT THE RIGHT LEVEL OF DENSITY BONUSES.
IF WE WANT TO BE AS COMPLEX AS BONNER COUNTY OR FIND A SIMPLER APPROACH.
AND I'LL WORK WITH STAFF AND WE'LL COME BACK TO YOU WITH AN APPROACH ON THAT.
THERE'S A LOT MORE DETAILS, BUT I THOUGHT THOSE WERE THE MAJOR TOPICS THAT I HEARD THIS MORNING.
IF I'VE MISSED ANYTHING, PLEASE JUMP IN AND LET US KNOW.
WORKING ON A DRAFT THAT'LL GO TO THE COUNTY ATTORNEY FOR HIS REVIEW WITH STAFF REVIEW, AND THEN FINALLY GETTING IT OUT TO BE A FULLY PUBLIC DOCUMENT, MUCH CLEANER. NO COMMENTS IN IT AND SO ON. THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR TIME, MR. CHAIRMAN. BACK TO YOU, SIR. SUPERVISOR. I WOULD JUST LIKE TO MAYBE I'M THINKING THERE'S ANOTHER MEETING THAT I MIGHT WANT TO SEE.
I'D LIKE ANOTHER LOOK AT IT. CERTAINLY THAT THAT WAS MY INTENT AFTER TODAY'S MEETING AND HEARING THE COMMENTS WAS TO HOPEFULLY RESCHEDULE, BUT SOONER RATHER THAN LATER. SUPERVISOR CHERRY.
I JUST WANTED TO REEMPHASIZE SOMETHING THAT COMMISSIONER EASTWOOD SAID.
AND WE GET THESE CALLS EVERY DAY AND THEY'RE JUST FILLING OUR PLACE UP.
SO JUST WANTED TO REEMPHASIZE THAT. I THINK THAT NEEDS TO BE IN THERE.
THANK YOU SIR. ANY OTHER COMMENTS FROM ANYBODY TODAY? THANK YOU. YES, MR. CHAIR. I SUPPORT COMMISSIONER JENKINS AND COMMISSIONER CHECKS UP AND DOWN, NODDING HEAD.
YES. MR. EASTMAN, COULD YOU TAKE US BACK TO YOUR SCHEDULE SLIDE.
WOULD THAT BE POSSIBLE, PLEASE? THERE WE GO. SO I TOTALLY AGREE THAT THIS NEEDS TO COME BACK AS ANOTHER JOINT STUDY SESSION WITH ALL OF US IN THE ROOM. AND IF YOU COULD FIGURE OUT WHERE TO PLUG US IN FOR YOUR SCHEDULE.
IT'S IN THE WORKS, SANDY. OH. THANK YOU. AI TOLD ME TO ASK FOR THAT.
IT'S IN THE WORKS, SANDY. OKAY. ANY OTHER COMMENTS OR CONCERNS? WELL, I THANK EVERYONE FOR THEIR PARTICIPATION TODAY.
IT CERTAINLY HAS BEEN FRUITFUL AND I'M HAPPY THAT CONTAINERS WERE PART OF THE DISCUSSION.
VERY HAPPY. AND I'M HAPPY TO SEE COMMISSIONER BUCHANAN WAS ACTUALLY SITTING IN A CONTAINER MALL IN LAS VEGAS, SO HOPE SHE BRINGS HER MONEY HOME. ANYWAYS, I APPRECIATE EVERYONE'S INVOLVEMENT AND THIS MEETING IS ADJOURNED.
THANK YOU.
* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.