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>> GOOD MORNING, EVERYONE. I NOW CALL THIS MEETING TO ORDER.
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WELCOME TO YAVAPAI COUNTY BOARD OF SUPERVISORS MEETING HERE IN THE COTTONWOOD OFFICE WEDNESDAY, AUGUST 20TH, 2025.I WILL NOW ASK FOR THE INVOCATION AND THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE.
THE INVOCATION WILL BE DONE BY SUPERVISOR CHECK, AND THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE WILL BE DONE BY VICE CHAIR COMPTON.
>> DEAR LORD. WE THANK YOU FOR THIS TIME HERE TODAY TO GATHER AND DO IMPORTANT BUSINESS.
I THANK YOU ALSO FOR THE TENACITY OF OUR BOARD AND OUR STAFF AFTER COMING THROUGH A VERY TIME INTENSIVE STRATEGIC PLANNING EFFORT.
THERE'S LOTS ON THE AGENDA TODAY AND I PRAY THAT WE ALL HAVE THE ATTENTION AND ENERGY TO GIVE EACH MATTER OUR COMPLETE REGARD.
WE ALSO PRAY THAT YOU INSPIRE US TODAY.
THAT YOU HAVE US CONSIDER THESE MATTERS DEEPLY AND THAT YOU GRANT US THE INTEGRITY TO MAKE THE VERY BEST DECISIONS IN JESUS NAME, AMEN.
>> PLEASE JOIN ME IN THE PLEDGE.
>> THANK YOU, SUPERVISOR CHECK AND VICE CHAIR COMPTON.
WITH THAT, I'LL REACH TO THE CLERK OF THE BOARD. GOOD MORNING.
>> WE WILL DO ROLL CALL. CHAIR, MALLORY.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH. WE MOVE ON TO AWARDS AND PROCLAMATIONS.
[ AWARDS AND PROCLAMATIONS ]
FIRST ITEM IS TO APPROVE A PROCLAMATION, RECOGNIZING THE MONTH OF AUGUST AS EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT AWARENESS MONTH IN YAVAPAI COUNTY.GOOD MORNING. HOW ARE YOU, TYLER.
>> VERY WELL. GOOD MORNING, CHAIR.
VICE CHAIR, MEMBERS OF THE BOARD.
EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT AWARENESS MONTH.
WHEREAS, EMERGENCIES AND DISASTERS CAN OCCUR UNEXPECTEDLY, POSING SIGNIFICANT THREATS TO LIFE, PROPERTY, AND THE ENVIRONMENT WITHIN YAVAPAI COUNTY, AND WHEREAS THE YAVAPAI COUNTY OFFICE OF EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT, ALONG WITH OUR MUNICIPAL AND TRIBAL PARTNERS, FIRST RESPONDERS, COMMUNITY LEADERS, THE STATE OF ARIZONA, AND THE FEDERAL EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT AGENCY, DEDICATE COUNTLESS HOURS TO DEVELOPING PREPAREDNESS, RESPONSE, RECOVERY, AND MITIGATION PROGRAMS TO PROTECT THE LIVES AND PROPERTY OF ALL PERSONS LIVING IN YAVAPAI COUNTY.
WHEREAS EMERGENCY MANAGERS ACROSS YAVAPAI COUNTY ARE CHARGED WITH ESTABLISHING AND MAINTAINING THE CAPABILITIES NECESSARY TO EFFECTIVELY DIRECT, COORDINATE, AND SUPPORT EMERGENCY AND DISASTER RESPONSE AND RECOVERY EFFORTS FOR OUR RESIDENTS AND VISITORS, AND WHEREAS THE EMERGENCY MANAGERS OF YAVAPAI COUNTY SERVE OUR COMMUNITIES BY RESPONDING TO COUNTLESS EMERGENCIES AND DISASTERS EACH YEAR FROM WILDFIRES AND FLOODS TO PUBLIC HEALTH CRISES, DEMONSTRATING COMMITMENT, COMPASSION, AND PROFESSIONALISM IN PROTECTING THE PUBLIC, AND WHEREAS THE SUCCESS OF OUR EMERGENCY RESPONSE EFFORTS IS SIGNIFICANTLY ENHANCED BY THE SELFLESS DEDICATION OF VOLUNTEERS, INCLUDING PERSONNEL FROM OTHER COUNTY DEPARTMENTS AND AGENCIES WHO ASSIST IN THE EMERGENCY OPERATION CENTER.
THE VITAL MEMBERS OF OUR PARTNER VOLUNTEER GROUPS, INCLUDING ANIMAL DISASTER SERVICES, THE LARGE ANIMAL SHELTER AND RESPONSE READINESS OR LASER, ARIES, RACES, AND MEDICAL RESERVE CORPS, WHO GENEROUSLY CONTRIBUTE THEIR TIME AND EXPERTISE TO SAFEGUARD OUR COMMUNITIES, AND WHEREAS THE MISSION AREA IS A PREVENTION, PROTECTION, MITIGATION, RESPONSE, AND RECOVERY, ALIGNED WITH THE CORE CAPABILITIES IDENTIFIED IN THE NATIONAL PREPAREDNESS GOAL OF THE EFFORTS OF YAVAPAI COUNTY'S EMERGENCY MANAGERS AND THEIR PARTNERS HAVE HELPED THOUSANDS OF COMMUNITY MEMBERS ACROSS OUR COUNTY RECOVER, BUILD AND BECOME MORE RESILIENT IN THE FACE OF ADVERSITY.
NOW, THEREFORE, THE YAVAPAI COUNTY BOARD OF SUPERVISORS DO HEREBY RECOGNIZE THE MONTH OF AUGUST AS EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT AWARENESS MONTH IN YAVAPAI COUNTY AND ENCOURAGE ALL RESIDENTS TO EXPRESS THEIR SINCERE APPRECIATION FOR THE EMERGENCY MANAGERS AND DEDICATED VOLUNTEERS IN EVERY SECTOR, COUNTY, MUNICIPAL, TRIBAL, PRIVATE AND NON PROFIT, WHO WORK DILIGENTLY TO PREPARE, PROTECT AND SERVE OUR COMMUNITIES AGAINST ALL HAZARDS AND RISKS.
IN WITNESS THEREOF, THE CHAIR OF THE BOARD ON BEHALF OF THE YAVAPAI COUNTY BOARD OF SUPERVISORS SETS HER HAND AND CAUSES THE SEAL OF THE COUNTY OF YAVAPAI, ARIZONA TO BE A FIXED ON THE 20TH DAY OF AUGUST 2025.
>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH, TYLER.
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WE'RE NOT BRINGING ANYBODY UP?>> DID YOU HAVE ASHLEY AHLQUIST, OUR EMERGENCY MANAGER FOR THE COUNTY HERE TO SAY A FEW WORDS.
>> FANTASTIC. WELCOME, ASHLEY.
>> THANK YOU. GOOD MORNING, MADAM CHAIR, VICE CHAIR, SUPERVISORS.
I'M ASHLEY AHLQUIST, YOUR EMERGENCY MANAGER.
ORIGINALLY, I WAS NOT GOING TO SEEK A PROCLAMATION.
MORE I HAD REACHED OUT AND ASKED IF WE WANTED ONE AFTER WE DID OUR PRESS RELEASE.
I ASKED THE TEAM, AND THEY ALL VOTED YES.
THEY ARE ALL IN TRAINING TODAY BUT THAT'S QUITE ALL RIGHT.
THIS INITIATIVE WAS SPEARHEADED BY THE INTERNATIONAL ASSOCIATION OF EMERGENCY MANAGERS, REALLY IN LIGHT OF THE CONVERSATIONS SURROUNDING EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT AT THE NATIONAL LEVEL.
THERE SEEMS TO BE A LOT OF MISCONCEPTIONS AND MISUNDERSTANDINGS SURROUNDING EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT AND THAT'S UNDERSTANDABLE IN MY OPINION, BECAUSE WHEN YOU THINK OF A DISASTER, YOU'RE NOT THINKING ABOUT THE PLANNING, THE TRAINING, THE EXERCISES.
YOU'RE THINKING ABOUT THE FOLKS THAT ARE OUT THERE RESPONDING.
YOU'RE THINKING ABOUT THE FIREFIGHTERS FIGHTING A FIRE, THE LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS CONDUCTING THE EVACUATIONS AND OVERALL FIRST RESPONDERS RACING TO THE SCENE.
BUT YOU TYPICALLY DON'T HEAR ABOUT EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT, AND YOU REALLY SHOULDN'T.
ALTHOUGH IT SEEMS IN RECENT EVENTS, YOU'RE HEARING ABOUT THE MISTAKES.
WITH EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT, WE'RE LIKE A CONNECTIVE TISSUE.
ONE OF MY PREDECESSORS REFERRED TO EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT AS A DATING SERVICE, BECAUSE IT'S REALLY ABOUT BRINGING THE RIGHT PEOPLE INTO THE ROOM, HAVING THOSE CONVERSATIONS AND HAVING THOSE CONNECTIONS, WHETHER IT BE LAW ENFORCEMENT, FIRE, AND MEDICAL, TO PUBLIC WORKS HEALTH SERVICES, AS WELL AS OUR VOLUNTEERS.
LIVING IN RURAL ARIZONA, AND MANY OF THE REALITIES FOR EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT ACROSS THE NATION IN SMALL TOWN AND RURAL AREAS, IS THAT TYPICALLY THE OFFICES ARE LOWER IN STAFF.
YOU MAY HAVE AN OFFICE OF JUST ONE OR TWO PEOPLE, AND SOMETIMES THEY ARE WEARING MULTIPLE HATS.
THEY COULD BE THE POLICE CHIEF, THE FIRE CHIEF, OR A PIO, AND EVERYTHING ELSE.
FOR HERE IN YAVAPAI COUNTY, OUR OFFICE IS A STAFF OF FOUR.
WE ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR COORDINATING, PREPAREDNESS AND SUPPORTING RESPONSE OVER 8,000 SQUARE MILES OF MOUNTAINS, DESERTS, AND REMOTE COMMUNITIES, A POPULATION OF NEARING A QUARTER MILLION.
WE HAVE AREAS THROUGHOUT THE COUNTY, MULTIPLE AREAS WITH ONLY ONE WAY IN, ONE WAY OUT, 35% OF OUR RESIDENTS ARE OVER THE AGE OF 60, AND WE FACE A COMPLEX MIX OF HAZARDS, WHETHER IT BE WILDFIRES, FLOODS, WINTER STORMS, ET CETERA.
WITH LIMITED BUDGETS AND TO YOUR STAFF, EMERGENCY MANAGERS HAVE TO BE RESOURCEFUL AND ADAPTABLE.
WHILE I AM VERY BLESSED TO HAVE A STAFF OF FOUR, IN CONTRAST TO SOME OF MY OTHER COUNTY COUNTERPARTS, IT'S DEFINITELY NOT ENOUGH.
BUT WITH THAT, IT MEANS THAT WE ARE RELIANT ON COLLABORATION WITH NOT ONLY VOLUNTEERS, BUT OUR REGIONAL PARTNERS.
KNOWING THAT WE CANNOT STAFF THE EMERGENCY OPERATION CENTER ALONE, WE HAVE PARTNERS WITH NOT ONLY THE COUNTY, BUT WITH OUR LOCAL MUNICIPALITIES AND TRIBAL PARTNERS.
OUR WORK SURROUNDS A FOUR PART CYCLE THAT GUIDES EVERYTHING WE DO REGARDLESS IF THERE'S A DISASTER OR NOT.
MOST OF OUR TIME, I'D SAY 95% OF OUR TIME IS SPENT ON PREPAREDNESS, WHETHER IT BE PLANNING, TRAINING, AND EXERCISES, BUT NEXT MONTH IS NATURAL PREPAREDNESS MONTH, SO I'LL TOUCH ON THAT THEN.
DURING THE RESPONSE, WE WILL OPERATE ACTIVATE THE EMERGENCY ACTIVATION.
EMERGENCY OPERATION CENTER TO SUPPORT THE INCIDENT.
WE DO NOT CONTROL, NOR DO WE WANT TO CONTROL ANY INCIDENT.
THE INCIDENT MANAGEMENT TEAM AND THE INCIDENT COMMANDER ARE THOSE THAT ARE FOCUSED ON THE INCIDENT AT LARGE, AND WE ARE THERE AS A SUPPORT.
WITH THE EMERGENCY OPERATION CENTER, WE CAN ASSIST WITH THE JOINT INFORMATION SYSTEM TO ENSURE PUBLIC INFORMATION IS TIMELY ACCURATE AND MEETS LEGAL REQUIREMENTS FOR ACCESSIBILITY.
WE HAVE THE MEDICAL RESERVE CORP THROUGH COMMUNITY HEALTH SERVICES STAFF THE PHONE BANK, SO QUESTIONS CAN BE ANSWERED FROM THE PUBLIC, AND WE HAVE OUR VERY ROBUST HAM RADIO OPERATOR GROUP TO PROVIDE RESILIENT COMMUNICATIONS TO INFRASTRUCTURE GO DOWN, AS WELL AS PROVIDE SITUATIONAL AWARENESS TO THE EOC.
OF COURSE, WE HAVE OUR TWO SHELTERING ORGANIZATIONS THAT CAN PROVIDE AID FOR THOSE THAT NEED TO EVACUATE WITH THEIR ANIMALS.
THE YEAR OF 2024, WE ACTIVATED FOR 14 INCIDENTS, WHICH INCLUDED WILDFIRES AS WELL AS PLANNED EVENTS.
SOMETIMES THERE'S QUESTIONS SURROUNDING WHY DO WE ACTIVATE FOR A PLANNED EVENT, AND REALLY, IT'S JUST TO BE JUST IN CASE.
I'D RATHER HAVE FOLKS READY TO GO, SHOULD SOMETHING HAPPEN, WHICH MOST OF THE TIME IT DOES NOT, THAN NEED TO GET PEOPLE INTO THEIR POSITIONS.
AN IMPORTANT ELEMENT OF THE EOC IS A COORDINATION, BRINGING THE SUBJECT MATTER EXPERTS TO THE TABLE, AS ALLUDED TO EARLIER.
FOR EXAMPLE, ESF 8 OR EMERGENCY SUPPORT FUNCTION 8 IS PUBLIC HEALTH, AND OUR PARTNERS OVER AT THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT STAFF THAT.
MASS CARE, WHICH IS ESF 6 WILL BE STAFFED BY THE AMERICAN RED CROSS.
DURING THE RECENT KIRKLAND FIRE, EMERGENCY SPORT FUNCTION 12, WHICH IS ENERGY, APS INFORMED THE EOC THAT POWER MIGHT BE SHUT OFF FOR FIREFIGHTER SAFETY.
ULTIMATELY, IT WAS, FORTUNATELY, WAS ONLY TURNED OFF FOR A SHORT AMOUNT OF TIME.
BUT IT ALLOWED US IN THE EOC TO BE PROACTIVE AND PLAN FOR THE POSSIBILITY OF A COOLING CENTER, KNOWING THAT REGION HAD EXPERIENCED HIGH TEMPERATURES.
DURING THE RECENT WOODS FIRE, THE ESF 8 FOR MASS CARE, THE PUBLIC HEALTH EMERGENCY PREPAREDNESS COORDINATOR WITH THE HEALTH SERVICES FILLED THAT ROLE AND WAS IN CONSTANT COMMUNICATION WITH ARIZONA COALITION FOR HEALTHCARE AND EMERGENCY RESPONSE,
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WHICH IS AZCHER, TO ADDRESS THE NEED FOR FINDING SPACE FOR POTENTIALLY 85 PATIENTS, AND METHODS FOR TRANSPORTING THEM SHOULD HAVE AN EVACUATION BEEN NECESSARY.THEY WERE WORKING WELL INTO THE NIGHT WORKING ON THAT EFFORT.
WE HAVE ASSISTED WITH EMERGENCY ALERT AND WARNINGS LAST WINTER, WE WERE IN CONSTANT COMMUNICATION WITH ADOT AND DPS REGARDING ROAD CLOSURES AND ASSISTED WITH COORDINATED MESSAGING WITH OTHER COUNTY EMERGENCY MANAGERS AND ADOT.
WHEN THE CROWD STRIKE INCIDENT OCCURRED, WE CONNECTED IMPACTED AGENCIES AND FACILITATED COORDINATION MEETINGS AND WE REGULARLY RECEIVE NOTIFICATIONS FROM PRESCOTT REGIONAL COMMUNICATION CENTER, COTTONWOOD REGIONAL COMMUNICATION CENTER, AS WELL AS STATE AND FEDERAL FIRE AGENCIES DISPATCH CENTERS ATTESTING TO THE COLLABORATION THAT WE EXPERIENCE.
WE ALSO WORK THROUGH RECOVERY, AND THAT IS SUPPORTING COMMUNITIES IN THE WEEKS AND MONTHS AFTER A DISASTER.
RECOVERY IS OFTEN AN OVERLOOKED COMPONENT OF THE PROCESS.
I'VE ACTUALLY BEEN IN PLANNING MEETINGS FOR EXERCISES.
I'VE BEEN TOLD, DON'T WORRY ABOUT THAT. WE DON'T CARE.
WE JUST WANT TO FOCUS ON RESPONSE, AND I CAN ASSURE YOU THAT THOSE THAT HAVE LOST EVERYTHING DEFINITELY WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT RECOVERY IS SOMETHING THAT IS ADDRESSED. THIS IS THE LONG HAUL.
IT'S HELPING FAMILIES NAVIGATE COMPLEX PAPERWORK, COORDINATING DEBRIS REMOVAL, AND WORKING WITH COMMUNITIES TO REBUILD STRONGER THAN BEFORE.
KNOWING THAT MOST OF OUR INCIDENTS DO NOT AND WILL NOT MEET THE THRESHOLDS FOR FEDERAL AID, THROUGH FMA, IT IS THE CONNECTIONS WITH OUR LOCAL COAD, COMMUNITY ORGANIZATIONS ACTIVE IN DISASTER THAT ALLOW FOR SOME OF THESE GAPS TO BE CLOSED LOCALLY.
THEN, OF COURSE, MITIGATION, WHERE WE IDENTIFY THE RISKS AND TAKE THE STEPS TO REDUCE THEM BEFORE THEY BECOME DISASTERS.
ONE OF THE RECENT EXECUTIVE ORDERS FROM PRESIDENT TRUMP, THEY WANTED TO TRANSITION FROM ALL HAZARDS TO RISK INFORMED.
THIS INCLUDES US GOING THROUGH WHAT OUR CAPABILITIES ARE, WHAT THEY SHOULD BE, AND HOW WE CAN CLOSE THOSE GAPS, WHETHER IT BE THROUGH TRAINING, EXERCISES, PLANNING, STAFF, ET CETERA.
THE EXPECTATION IS THAT WE ARE ALWAYS READY.
THE PLANS ARE WRITTEN, RESOURCES ARE AVAILABLE, AND RELATIONSHIPS ARE IN PLACE LONG BEFORE THE FIRST BARK OR RAIN DROP.
BUT READINESS ISN'T AUTOMATIC, REQUIRES A CONSTANT INVESTMENT IN PEOPLE, TOOLS, AND CONTINUOUS TRAINING.
STRONG PARTNERSHIPS OFTEN DEPEND ON INDIVIDUAL RELATIONSHIPS, BUT PEOPLE INEVITABLY CHANGE ROLES, GET PROMOTED, OR RETIRE.
THIS HIGHLIGHTS THE CRITICAL NEED TO BUILD A DEEP BENCH WITHIN VARIOUS ORGANIZATIONS, ENSURING OUR COMMUNICATION CHANNELS AND PARTNERSHIPS REMAIN STRONG THROUGH ANY PERSONNEL CHANGES.
THIS IS WHERE SYSTEM, SUCH AS THE ARIZONA QUALIFICATION SYSTEM CAN BE OF ASSISTANCE.
THIS IS A CERTIFICATION MORE OR LESS, AND IT ENSURES THAT WHEN WE ASK FOR HELP OR WE GO TO HELP, THE PERSON WHO ARRIVES HAS PROVEN A STANDARD OF TRAINING AND EXPERIENCE.
IN ARIZONA, DISASTERS ARE LOW FREQUENCY, BUT HIGH CONSEQUENCE.
IN A LANDSCAPE WHERE FUNDING CAN BE HARD TO SECURE.
FMA GREATEST IMPACT IS NOT IN RESPONDING BECAUSE THEY DON'T, AND IT'S IN THE GUIDANCE TRAINING AND MOST CRITICALLY THE GRANTS THAT THEY PROVIDE, SUCH AS THE EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT PERFORMANCE GRANT.
TO BE BLUNT, I KNOW THAT SOME OF MY COUNTY COUNTERPARTS WOULD CEASE TO EXIST WITHOUT THAT FUNDING.
HERE ABOUT FMA ON THE NEWS OR COMING TO SAY THE DAY.
NO, ALL DISASTERS BEGIN AND END LOCALLY.
BY TIME FEDERAL HELP ARRIVES, IF AT ALL, OUR LOCAL RESPONSE HAS BEEN RUNNING FOR DAYS, EVEN WEEKS.
AS THE ROLE OF FEDERAL SUPPORT EVOLVES AND MORE RESPONSIBILITY IS SHIFTED TO THE LOCAL LEVEL, WE MUST HAVE CONVERSATIONS ABOUT WHAT LOCAL EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT PROGRAMS TRULY REQUIRES.
THE WORK OF OUR TEAM SHOWS THAT NO MATTER THE SIZE OF YOUR RESOURCES, MISSION DRIVEN DEDICATION, AND COMMUNITY MAKE ALL THE DIFFERENCE.
WE ARE THE QUIET FRAMEWORK BEHIND THE VISIBLE ACTION, WE ARE THE PLANNERS, COMMUNICATORS, AND PROBLEM SOLVERS, AND THAT'S WHY A STRONG WELL RESOURCED PROGRAM IS ESSENTIAL.
NO ONE AGENCY SHOULD OPERATE IN SILO.
IT'S ABOUT THE PARTNERSHIPS AND CONNECTIONS THAT ALLOW US TO GET THROUGH ANY INCIDENT BECAUSE WE KNOW IT'S NOT IF, BUT WHEN. THANK YOU.
>> THANK YOU SO MUCH. WE KNOW THERE ARE MANY UNSUNG HEROES WHEN WE HAVE DISASTERS, SO WE APPRECIATE YOU, YOUR TEAM, AND MANY OTHERS THAT YOU COLLABORATE WITH.
>> CHAIR MALLORY, I MOVED TO APPROVE THIS PROCLAMATION.
>> CLERK OF THE BOARD, I HAVE A MOTION, AND I HAVE A SECOND.
>> PROCLAMATION PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.
>> THANK YOU, ASHLEY. MOVING ON TO ITEM NUMBER 2.
RECOGNITION OF THREE DEVELOPMENT SERVICES DEPARTMENT TEAM MEMBERS WHO RECEIVED AWARDS AT THE ARIZONA BUILDING OFFICIALS CONFERENCE ON JULY 16, 2025, FOR THEIR OUTSTANDING CONTRIBUTIONS TO THE ORGANIZATION AND THE STATEWIDE BUILDING INDUSTRY.
>> MORNING, CHAIR MALLORY, AND VICE CHAIR COMPTON AND BOARD MEMBERS.
YOUR DEVELOPMENT SERVICES DIRECTOR, AND I HAVE A FEW PEOPLE BEHIND ME.
I WANTED TO SHINE THE LIGHT ON.
I WANTED TO THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO REALLY BE ABLE TO SHINE THE LIGHT ON OUR DEVELOPMENT SERVICES TEAM AND THE FANTASTIC FOLKS THAT WE HAVE WORKING IN THAT DEPARTMENT IN KEEPING THE COUNTY AND COUNTY RESIDENTS SAFE AND HEALTHY.
JUST A LITTLE BIT OF A BACKGROUND, THE ARIZONA BUILDING OFFICIALS ASSOCIATION OR ASBO, IS A PROFESSIONAL INDUSTRY ORGANIZATION THAT PROVIDES EDUCATIONAL OPPORTUNITIES TO BUILDING PROFESSIONALS THROUGHOUT ARIZONA.
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ITS PURPOSE IS TO EDUCATE INDUSTRY PROFESSIONALS ON BEST PRACTICES, NEW BUILDING CODE REQUIREMENTS, AND TO DEVELOP AND RECOMMEND LEGISLATION PERTAINING TO THAT INDUSTRY.LAST MONTH AT THE ANNUAL BUSINESS MEETING OF ASBO IN JULY, THREE OF OUR DEVELOPMENT SERVICES TEAM MEMBERS RECEIVED AWARDS IN ACKNOWLEDGMENT OF THE HARD WORK, THE OUTSTANDING CONTRIBUTIONS TO THAT BUILDING INDUSTRY, TO THE STATEWIDE BUILDING INDUSTRY FOR THEIR CUSTOMER SERVICE, THEIR SERVICE QUALITY, AND THEIR CONTRIBUTION.
THE AWARDS THAT OUR FOLKS RECEIVED REALLY UNDERSCORE TO ME THAT WE HAVE A VERY STRONG TEAM, HIGHLY TRAINED PROFESSIONALS IN YOUR DEVELOPMENT SERVICES DEPARTMENT.
IN FACT, THIS IS THE SECOND YEAR IN A ROW THAT DEVELOPMENT SERVICES HAD MULTIPLE AWARD WINNERS, SO WE'RE EXTREMELY PROUD OF THESE INDIVIDUALS AND GRATEFUL TO HAVE THEM WITH US IN DEVELOPMENT SERVICES.
WITH THAT, I'D LIKE TO INTRODUCE OUR AWARD WINNERS TO YOU.
IN THE MIDDLE HERE IS TARA GALLAGHER.
SHE WAS RECENTLY PROMOTED TO OUR CUSTOMER SERVICE AND PERMITTING MANAGER IN DEVELOPMENT SERVICES, AND SHE'S BEEN VERY ACTIVE IN THE BUILDING INDUSTRY WITH THE ASBO ORGANIZATION.
SHE TOOK IT AWAY THIS YEAR, THE AWARD OF SPECIAL SERVICE AND THE CHAIRMAN'S AWARD.
SHE ALSO SERVES AS THE SECOND VICE PRESIDENT OF THE GRAND CANYON CHAPTER OF ASBO AS WELL AS ON THE ASBO EDUCATION COMMITTEE.
>> ALSO, ON YOUR RIGHT HERE IS SUZANNE JORDAN, OUR OFFICE MANAGER.
SHE RECEIVED THE LEADERSHIP AWARD.
SHE'S OUR OFFICE MANAGER IN THE PRESCOTT OFFICE.
SHE'S VERY BUSY WITH HER DAY TO DAY DUTIES THERE, BUT SHE ALSO SERVES AS THE TREASURER OF THE GRAND CANYON CHAPTER OF AZBO.
I'M NOT SURE IF I MENTIONED THAT OR NOT.
THEN FINALLY, HERE, LAST BUT NOT LEAST IS LESLIE WAGER.
SHE IS OUR SENIOR PLANS EXAMINER RIGHT HERE IN THE COTTONWOOD OFFICE RIGHT NEXT DOOR HERE.
SHE WAS NAMED PLANS EXAMINER OF THE YEAR.
LESLIE, SHE'S PLAYING REALLY A CRUCIAL ROLE IN OUR REGIONAL EFFORT TO ADOPT THE 2024 BUILDING CODES.
YOU'VE HEARD ME TALK A LOT ABOUT THAT LATELY.
SHE'S BEEN COORDINATING, COLLABORATING WITH THE OTHER INCORPORATED CITIES AND TOWNS TO WORK THROUGH THAT EFFORT.
REALLY, THESE FOLKS BEHIND ME HERE ARE THE TRUE PROFESSIONALS IN THE INDUSTRY.
THEY'RE VERY DEDICATED. WE'RE PLEASED TO ACKNOWLEDGE THEM, AND I HOPE YOU'RE AS PROUD OF THESE FOLKS AS I AM.
>> WELL, JEREMY, WE ARE VERY PROUD.
WE'RE VERY PROUD OF ALL THE WORK THAT GOES IN FROM YOUR DEPARTMENT ALONG WITH ALL OF THE AWARDS THAT YOU HAVE WON FOR MANY THINGS THAT ARE BRINGING GOOD DEVELOPMENT INTO OUR COMMUNITY AND HELPING WITH PEOPLE WHO ARE STRUGGLING MAYBE TO GET THOSE HOMES BUILT.
WE HAVE THAT OPPORTUNITY ALSO.
I'D LOVE TO HAVE THE LADIES STEP UP A LITTLE BIT MORE, SO WE CAN ALL SEE YOU.
IF ANY OF THEM WOULD LIKE TO SAY A FEW WORDS OR MORE THAN WELCOME, BUT IF NOT, [LAUGHTER] NO.
I FEEL YOUR PAIN. I UNDERSTAND.
>>OH, ABSOLUTELY. GO AHEAD, SUPERVISOR CHECK.
>> WELL, I WANT TO JUST ACKNOWLEDGE THAT MOST OF THE COUNTY EXPERIENCE, IF SOMEBODY HAS SOMETHING THAT NEEDS TO GET APPROVED BY THE BOARD, THE MAJORITY OF THEIR EXPERIENCE REALLY RESTS IN YOUR HANDS.
I'M REALLY HAPPY THAT WE TOOK THIS TIME TO ACKNOWLEDGE THESE AWARDS, AND IT REALLY GIVES ME A SENSE OF PRIDE AND COMFORT THAT OUR TEAM IS REALLY EXCELLING IN THE PLACE WHERE IT MATTERS MOST AS FAR AS HOW PEOPLE EXPERIENCE YAVAPAI COUNTY. THANK YOU.
>> THANK YOU, SUPERVISOR CHECK.
>> CHAIR. I JUST WANTED TO SAY IT'S VERY OBVIOUS THAT YOUR DEPARTMENT IS CONSTANTLY STRIVING TO BE BETTER, ESPECIALLY WITH ALL THE PROGRAMS YOU'RE ROLLING OUT WITH THE VIDEO STUFF AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
BUT JUST KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK, AND THANK YOU. IT'S BEING NOTICED.
>> ANYONE ELSE? WELL, AGAIN, WE SO APPRECIATE YOU.
YOU MAKE YAVAPAI COUNTY PROUD, AND WE KNOW YOU ARE THE BOOTS TO THE GROUND.
AS ALL OF US GO THROUGH OUR DISTRICTS ISSUES HERE EVERY DAY ALL DAY LONG, WE APPRECIATE YOU BEING THERE TO HELP US OUT.
THANK YOU. I UNDERSTAND WE'RE DOING A KODAK MOMENT, A PHOTO SESSION. YES.
>> ABSOLUTELY. WE'LL COME DOWN RIGHT NOW.
I ALWAYS DATE MYSELF WHEN I SAY CODE AT A MOMENT. >> [INAUDIBLE] [LAUGHTER] [APPLAUSE]
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>> THANK YOU AGAIN. WE APPRECIATE.
I MUST SAY I DO FEEL LIKE I MUST DATE MYSELF WHEN I SAY A KODAK MOMENT BECAUSE THAT'S HOW IT WAS.
ALL RIGHT. WE'RE GOING TO MOVE ON TO THE CONSENT AGENDA.
[ CONSENT AGENDA (Routine items that may all be approved by one motion.)]
THESE ARE ROUTINE ITEMS, AND THEY MAY ALL BE APPROVED BY ONE MOTION.I UNDERSTAND AT THIS TIME WE WILL BE PULLING ITEM NUMBER 18, SUPERVISOR JENKINS, IS THAT CORRECT? THANK YOU. I WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA AS IT IS, EXCLUDING ITEM NUMBER 18.
>> I HAVE A MOTION IN A SECOND. CAN WE CALL FOR THE VOTE?
>> CONSENT ITEMS ONE THROUGH 21 HAVE BEEN UNANIMOUSLY APPROVED WITH THE EXCEPTION OF ITEM NUMBER 18.
SUPERVISOR JENKINS, THE FLOOR IS YOURS.
[18. School Superintendent - Approve the continuation of a stipend in the amount of $7,604.06 for the Chief Deputy position within the Yavapai County Education Services Agency (YCESA) to support ongoing supervisory and administrative functions. ]
>> YES, PLEASE. I THINK THIS WILL GO CLICK IF THE SUPERINTENDENT COULD COME FORWARD, PLEASE. GOOD MORNING.
JUST SOME BACKGROUND ON THIS ISSUE.
I SEE THAT IT'S BEEN VACANT SINCE 2022, SO A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS ABOUT THAT.
HAS THIS ITEM BEEN COMING BACK EVERY YEAR SINCE THEN, I'M ASSUMING?
>> I'M ASSUMING AS WELL A FIRST TIME BRING YOU BACK BEFORE THIS [INAUDIBLE].
>> IT IS NOW. THANK YOU. IT'S ACTUALLY WAS FOUR STIPENDS THAT WAS TOOK THE PLACE OF THE EDUCATION SERVICES DIRECTOR, STAN GALLIGASK, WHO LEFT IN 2022.
HIS DUTIES WERE SPLIT UP BETWEEN JENNIFER MILLER, SHERRI STERLING, RENEE RASKIN, AND MR. DONALDSON.
WE'VE HAD SOME REORGANIZATIONS.
WE'VE GOT THAT DOWN TO ONE STIPEND WITH MS. RASKIN.
THE OTHER ONES, AS YOU KNOW, MS. STERLING WENT BACK INTO THE GENERAL FUND.
SHE'S THE NEW ED SERVICES DIRECTOR, AND THEN JENNIFER MILLER, WHO DUTIES HAVE BEEN REDUCED A LITTLE BIT.
MR. DONALDSON, OF COURSE, WAS INCORPORATED INTO MS. STERLING'S.
>> THIS INDIVIDUAL HAS BEEN PERFORMING THIS PARTICULAR FUNCTION FOR A FEW YEARS?
>> CORRECT. MY UNDERSTANDING IS THREE YEARS.
>> I THINK YOU'RE FIGURING OUT WHERE I'M GOING WITH THIS.
POSSIBLY. I'M JUST WONDERING, SINCE IT'S BEEN GOING ON FOR SEVERAL YEARS, HAS THERE BEEN A THOUGHT TO MODIFYING THE CURRENT JOB POSITION? IS THERE ACTIVE RECRUITING FOR THIS POSITION? IS THERE A THOUGHT PROCESS TO MAYBE TAKE ANOTHER LOOK AT THIS POSITION AND MAKE IT PERMANENT?
>> YEAH. THE POSITION WAS ELIMINATED, WAS A GRANT FUNDED POSITION.
THAT PARTICULAR POSITION WAS ELIMINATED AND SPREAD OUT.
WE HAVE DIFFERENT FUNDS COMING IN THROUGH SHARED SERVICES MODELED WITH THE FUNDING, AND THAT'S WHAT WAS PAYING FOR THAT.
IN THE LAST NINE MONTHS SINCE I TOOK OFFICE, WE'VE BEEN REORGANIZING THOSE PIECES AND MOVING AROUND.
THAT WAS NOT A GENERAL FUND BUDGETED POSITION.
THOSE DUTIES KIND OF GOT SPREAD OUT.
NOW MISS RASKIN IS ACTUALLY, SHE'S THE CHIEF DEPUTY OF THE ESA AGENCY.
THIS THOUGHT I HAD NOT GIVEN THAT ANY THOUGHT.
I THOUGHT THIS IS JUST HOW WE DO THINGS IN THE COUNTY UNTIL MR. THOMPSON MENTIONED THIS AT THE GENDER REVIEW.
HAVE YOU GIVEN THOUGHT ABOUT MAYBE MOVING THIS INTO A GENERAL THING, SO WE DON'T HAVE TO KEEP BRING THIS BACK TO THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS? I THINK THAT'S A SWELL IDEA. WE'RE GOING TO BE PURSUING THAT.
I DID BRING THAT BACK TO MS. RASKIN AS WELL AS MS. STERLING TO LOOK AT THAT.
I THINK THAT'D BE A FAR MORE EASIER WAY TO GO.
>> THAT WAS MY THOUGHT PROCESS.
I DON'T KNOW IF YOU WANT TO PIPE IN AND MAYBE CLARIFY.
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>> SURE. THANK YOU, SUPERVISOR JENKINS.
YES, AS SCHOOL SUPERINTENDENT INDICATED WE HAD THIS CONVERSATION AT STAFF AGENDA REVIEW, SINCE THEN, I'VE BEEN IN CONTACT WITH THE HUMAN RESOURCES DIRECTOR, AND SHE HAS ANOTHER THOUGHT TOO.
I AGREE IT APPEARS THAT THIS IS BEYOND A TEMPORARY ASSIGNMENT AND NEEDS TO BE ADDRESSED PERMANENTLY ON AN ONGOING BASIS.
WE'RE WORKING ON A COUPLE OF OPTIONS WITH THE SCHOOL SUPERINTENDENT TO DO THAT.
>> I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE WITH THE IDEA THAT THE MANAGER AND THE SUPERINTENDENT WILL WORK TOGETHER FOR THE FUTURE OF THIS POSITION.
>> THANK YOU.I'LL SECOND THAT MOTION.
DO YOU HAVE A MOTION IN A SECOND.
CLERK, CAN WE CALL FOR THE VOTE, PLEASE?
>> CONSENT ITEM 18 PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.
>> CHAIR. I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO INVITE ALL OF YOU, THE COUNTY SUPERVISORS TO CAMP VERDE ELEMENTARY SCHOOL AT 8:00 A.M.
THIS FRIDAY, IF YOU'RE AVAILABLE.
WE'RE GOING TO BE DOING OUR TRAINING WITH ABOUT 40 OR 50 TEACHERS ON THE STRUCTURED LITERACY INITIATIVE THAT ALL APPROVED A WHILE BACK.
IF YOU'D LIKE TO COME SEE, YOU'LL BE MY GUEST, AND I'M SURE THERE'LL BE A CONTINENTAL BREAKFAST OF SOME KIND, BUT I THINK YOU'LL BE VERY IMPRESSED WITH WHAT YOU'LL SEE.
IF YOU'RE AVAILABLE, I'LL SEND OUT AN E-MAIL INVITE TODAY, AND JUST LET ME KNOW.
>> I LOOK FORWARD TO BEING THERE.
>> THANK YOU, STEVE. IT'S ALWAYS GOOD TO SEE YOU.
>> IT'S ALWAYS MY PLEASURE. THANK YOU.
>> ALL RIGHT. WELL, WE'LL MOVE ON TO ACTION.
[1. Board of Supervisors - Approve a letter of intent to sell approximately 7.5 acres of land to the City of Prescott in the amount of $1,550,000.00, and authorize the County Manager and the Deputy County Manager to sign all related documents. YC Contract No. 2025-303]
BOARD OF SUPERVISORS APPROVE A LETTER OF INTENT TO SELL APPROXIMATELY 7.5 ACRES OF LAND TO THE CITY OF PRESCOTT. GOOD MORNING, TYLER.>> GOOD MORNING, AGAIN, CHAIR. VICE CHAIR, MEMBERS OF THE BOARD.
I'M TYLER GOODMAN, ASSISTANT COUNTY MANAGER.
I WANT TO GIVE A LITTLE BIT OF BACKGROUND ON THIS ITEM.
DURING THE JUNE 18 STUDY SESSION, WE APPROACHED YOU AS THE BOARD TO GIVE AN UPDATE THAT WE WERE IN DISCUSSIONS WITH THE CITY OF PRESCOTT ON THE POTENTIAL SALE OF 16 ACRES OF LAND NEAR PRESCOTT LAKES PARKWAY IN PRESCOTT.
THE CITY OF PRESCOTT INTENDS TO BUILD A POLICE EVIDENCE AND STORAGE FACILITY, AS WELL AS A SUBSTATION AT THIS LOCATION.
WE DID A MUTUAL APPRAISAL ON THE FULL 16 ACRES, WHICH WAS VALUED AT 3.5 MILLION DOLLAR.
THE CITY OF PRESCOTT THEN WENT BACK AND DID SOME CRUNCHING AND ANALYSIS AND FIGURED OUT THEY COULD USE 7.5 ACRES OF THAT PARCEL IN ORDER TO ACCOMMODATE THE PROJECT.
WE THEN REAPPRAISED THE 7.5 ACRES, AND IT WAS VALUED AT $1,000,550.
THE CITY OF PRESCOTT HAS AGREED TO PAY FULL APPRAISED VALUE.
THE PARCEL MAP THAT YOU SEE HERE ON THE SCREEN IN GREEN IS THAT APPROXIMATE 7.5 ACRES THAT THEY REQUEST TO PURCHASE.
THE REMAINDER OF THE PARCEL OUTLINED IN RED IS WHAT WOULD REMAIN WITH THE COUNTY.
IT MAINTAINS ACCESS VIA A FUTURE ROADWAY THERE, THE SUNDOG CONNECTOR, WHICH IS CURRENTLY STUBBED OUT, BUT THERE IS RIGHT OF WAY ACCESS TO THE REMAINDER OF THE PARCEL.
PROCEEDS FROM THE SALE WOULD GO INTO THE GENERAL FUND AND PRIER DIRECTION COULD BE USED FOR FUTURE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROJECTS.
WE DO REQUEST THAT YOU AUTHORIZE THE COUNTY MANAGER AND DEPUTY COUNTY MANAGER TO BE ABLE TO SIGN AND BASICALLY EFFECTUATE THE TERMS OF THE AGREEMENT SO THAT WE CAN PROCEED WITH THE TRANSACTION.
WE ALSO HAVE YOU PLEASE NOTE THAT BASED ON STATE STATUTE, BECAUSE THIS DID NOT GO TO PUBLIC AUCTION, IT WILL REQUIRE A FULL CONSENSUS AND APPROVAL BY THE BOARD UNANIMOUSLY IN ORDER TO PROCEED.
WITH THAT, I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
>> THANK YOU, TYLER. THIS IS AN ACTION ITEM, SO I WILL REACH OUT TO MY FELLOW COLLEAGUES AND SEE DO WE HAVE QUESTIONS, COMMENTS YOU'D LIKE TO ASK?
>> WHAT WAS THE FULL SIZE OF BOTH PARCELS TOGETHER AGAIN?
>> I GUESS MY QUESTION IS, CARVING OUT THAT SMALL PIECE OUT OF THE 16 ACRES.
I MEAN, WHAT WOULD BE THE USE OF WHAT THE REMAINING PARCEL? DOES THAT INHIBIT THE DEVELOPMENT OF THE CONFIGURATION OF THE REMAINING PARCEL?
>> VERY GOOD QUESTION. THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE ASKED AND CONSIDERED AS WELL, WHICH IS WHY WE WANTED TO MAINTAIN.
YOU CAN SEE THEY'RE KIND OF ON THE RIGHT SIDE WITH THE RED OUTLINE REMAINING ACCESS.
TOPOGRAPHICALLY, THIS IS A CHALLENGING SITE, EVEN FOR THE CITY TO BUILD ON.
THEY ACTUALLY WANT THAT FOR THE PURPOSES OF THEIR BUILDING AND CONSTRUCTION WHAT THEY'RE CONSIDERING.
WE AS THE COUNTY, HAVE NOT YET IDENTIFIED A USE.
WE ALSO OWN ABOUT 100 ACRES, IF I REMEMBER CORRECTLY OF LAND IN THIS AREA ALONG PRESC HICKS PARKWAY.
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WE DO HAVE A LOT OF LAND.IT WILL BE A CHALLENGE EITHER WAY, BUT WE DID WANT TO MAINTAIN ACCESS FOR THE FUTURE.
>> WHY DID THEY WANT TO BUILD ON A HELL?
>> THAT WOULDN'T HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH DISPATCH, WOULD IT?
>> NO. WHAT THEY'RE LOOKING FOR, ESPECIALLY FOR THE EVIDENCE.
A LOT OF EVIDENCE REQUIRES COOLER TEMPERATURES.
IF THEY CAN BUILD IT INTO THE EARTH, INTO THE GROUND, THEY CAN SAVE ON ENERGY AND KEEP IT MORE EFFICIENT.
>> MADAM CHAIR? KIND OF ALONG WITH WHAT SUPERVISOR JENKINS WAS SAYING.
WOULD THIS BE A TIME KNOWING THAT WE HAVE THE REST OF THAT LAND? THE CITY OF PRESCOTT, IF THEY DIG DOWN, THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE TO TWO TO ONE SLOPE IT, THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE TO RIP RAP IT, DO ALL KINDS OF IMPROVEMENTS TO THAT.
IS THIS THE TIME KNOWING THAT WE ALL THE STUFF WE TALKED ABOUT YESTERDAY WITH CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS, DO WE WANT TO CONTRACT WITH THE SAME PERSON AND CONTINUE AND MAYBE LET THEM DO THE DIRT WORK ON THIS ENTIRE PARCEL, AND THEN IN COOPERATION WITH THE CITY OF PRESCOTT HAVE SOME OF THESE SAME SIMILAR RESOURCES AVAILABLE THERE, BECAUSE WE SEE WHAT THEY WANT TO USE IT FOR.
WE'RE SAYING WE NEED SOME MORE OF THAT LAND.
WHY DON'T WE COMBINE OUR EFFORTS AND INSTEAD OF HAVING A SLOPE WITH GIANT IMPROVEMENTS ON IT, WHY DON'T WE TALK WITH THE CONTRACTOR AND GET THE ENTIRE LOT DIRT WORK DONE, AND THEN WE'LL HAVE IT FOR THE FUTURE?
>> AS CHAIR MEMBERS OF THE BOARD, BEFORE WE GET TOO FAR INTO THIS ITEM, MAY I SUGGEST THAT IF THAT'S THE DESIRE OF THE BOARD THAT WE AGENDIZE THAT SPECIFIC ISSUE FOR DISCUSSION AND CONSIDERATION BY THE BOARD?
>> YES, I AGREE. RIGHT NOW, WHAT'S BEFORE US IS DO WE SELL THIS LAND OR DO WE NOT? IS THERE ANY OTHER COMMENTS THAT NEED TO BE MADE?
>> CHAIR, I WOULD JUST ADD TO THIS DISCUSSION AND AGAIN TO ADD TO TYLER'S COMMENTS.
STAFF HAVE REVIEWED THIS IN TERMS OF OUR OTHER BUILDING NEEDS? WE HAVE NOT IDENTIFIED THIS AS A PARCEL WHERE WE WOULD BUILD.
I MEAN, YOU HEARD FROM THE SHERIFF YESTERDAY, AND HE HAS IDENTIFIED AND STAFF CONCUR FOR A DIFFERENT LOCATION FOR OUR FUTURE BUILDING NEEDS.
>> MAY I ASK THE HISTORY WHY THIS PARCEL WAS ACQUIRED. WHAT WAS THAT?
>> UNFORTUNATELY, I DON'T HAVE THE HISTORY AS TO WHY WE ACQUIRED ALL OF THE ACREAGE THAT WE DID.
I'M SEEING THE FACILITIES, DIRECTOR, GRIMACE, AS WELL.
I DON'T KNOW THAT ANYONE'S HERE THAT HAS THE FULL HISTORY AS TO WHY THE COUNTY PURCHASED SO MUCH GROUND OUT THERE ALONG PRESCOTT LAKE PARKWAY.
>> I HAVE A LITTLE HISTORY, BUT NOT A LOT.
I MEAN, I DO UNDERSTAND THAT WAY BACK WHEN IT WAS MORE OR LESS OF AN EXCHANGE IN REGARDS TO WHERE THE RODEO IS, SOMEWHAT OF THAT NATURE.
THAT'S ABOUT ALL I KNOW. THAT'S ABOUT THE ONLY LITTLE BIT OF EAR HISTORY I GOT.
BUT THIS WE WEREN'T HERE WHEN ALL THAT HAPPENED.
>> I JUST WANT TO BE THOROUGH, THERE'S BEEN NO ACTIVE DISCUSSIONS ABOUT HOW THIS PARCEL COULD FIT INTO THE COUNTY'S FUTURE, OR NOTHING PRODUCTIVE IN THAT WAY AS AN ALTERNATIVE.
>> NO, SUPERVISOR. AS FAR AS THE COUNTY MANAGER JUST SPOKE TO FOR THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE, THERE IS ALREADY IDENTIFIED SPOT BASICALLY ACROSS THE STREET FROM HERE WITHIN OUR COMPLEX.
IT'S A PREPARED SITE CURRENTLY.
AGAIN, THERE IS SO MUCH ACREAGE ON THAT SIDE OF PRESC LAKE PARKWAY.
WE HAVE NOT YET IDENTIFIED EVEN A NEED, EVEN IN OUR FACILITIES, CAPITAL PLANNING OR OTHERS TO DATE THAT WOULD REQUIRE THIS LAND.
>> I UNDERSTAND WHEN WE HAVE TO STICK TO THE ITEM, BUT IF THERE'S A SUPERVISOR THAT WISHES TO RE AGENDIZE THIS AND REFERENCE, THEN I'M WILLING TO LISTEN BECAUSE THIS HAS TO BE UNANIMOUS VOTE.
>> WELL, FOR ME, I'M PERFECTLY FINE, MOVING FORWARD. THAT'S JUST ME.
I'M HERE TO LISTEN TO ANYONE ELSE'S VOICE.
>> I'M SATISFIED WITH YOUR RESPONSE TO MY QUESTION.
MY CONCERN IS, DOES THAT NEGATE THE COUNTY FROM USING THE OTHER PORTION? IT'S CLEAR THAT IT'S GOING TO BE A DIFFICULT PIECE TO DEVELOP ANYWAY.
I DON'T HAVE ANY OTHER CONCERNS OTHER THAN YOUR RESPONSE TO THAT SO THANK YOU.
>> I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A NOTE HERE THAT AS I LOOK ON INTO THE DETAILS,
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IT SAYS THIS SALE WILL HELP FUND OTHER FACILITY CAPITAL NEEDS THAT THE BOARD OF SUPERVISOR HAVE IDENTIFIED.I'M JUST PUTTING THAT INFORMATION OUT THERE AS WELL.
IF WE'RE NOT GOING TO BE USING THE LAND, IF IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT'S GOING TO SERVICE US, IF OTHER DEPARTMENTS DON'T REALLY HAVE A DESIRE FOR IT, THEN THAT'S WHY I'M OKAY.
>> ON THE SAME NOTE AS SUPERVISOR JENKINS.
IF WE'RE LOOKING TO FUND OUR CAPITAL PROJECTS, IF WE SOLD THE ENTIRE 16 ACRES, YOU WOULD ASSUME THAT WE MIGHT GET SOMETHING CLOSER TO 3.5 MILLION INSTEAD OF 1.5 MILLION.
IF THE REST OF THAT PARCEL IS NOT MEETING OUR NEEDS, IT SEEMS TO ME THAT THERE MIGHT BE VALUE IN PUTTING IT UP FOR AUCTION TO SEE IF WE COULD SELL THE ENTIRE PARCEL TOGETHER.
THEY'RE SHAVING OFF SOMETHING THAT'S SUITABLE FOR THEM IN THEIR PROJECTS, WHICH IS A GREAT VALUE FOR THEM.
IF THE ADDITIONAL COMPONENT OF THE PARCEL IS NOT FITTING INTO OUR FUTURE VISION, YOU WOULD ASSUME THAT THAT WOULD ALSO BE ATTRACTIVE FOR US TO SELL IT AT A FUTURE TIME.
MAYBE IT'S A POSITIVE THING TO SPLIT IT UP AND SELL IT INTO PIECES, BUT I JUST WONDERED IF YOU COULD SPEAK TO THAT THOUGHT PROCESS.
>> ABSOLUTELY, AND CHAIR SUPERVISOR CHECK.
I BELIEVE IT'S DIRECTLY ADJACENT KIND OF IN THAT LARGE PARCEL THAT YOU CAN SEE TO THE RIGHT IS THE STORM RANCH DEVELOPMENT.
IT'S AN APPROVED DEVELOPMENT WITHIN THE CITY OF PRESCOTT.
I BELIEVE IT'S BEEN FINAL PLATTED.
IT'S ADJACENT TO A FUTURE DEVELOPMENT THERE IN THE CITY.
THERE IS LIKELY DEMAND, I WOULD ASSUME, OVER TIME.
THAT PROJECT HAS BEEN APPROVED FOR DECADES AT THIS POINT.
BUT IT IS ADJACENT TO A SUBDIVISION, A POTENTIAL PROJECT.
NOW, WE COULD AUCTION ALL OF THE 16 ACRES, WE COULD AUCTION THE ACRES THAT REMAINS AND SEE WHAT WE GET.
>> NOW, THAT ACTUALLY REALLY HELPS CLARIFY IT.
IF THERE'S A DEVELOPMENT THAT'S APPROVED, YOU'D ASSUME THAT PROPERTY VALUES ARE GOING TO INCREASE.
>> I'M SORRY, SUPERVISOR. COOK NOW AHEAD.
>> MADAM CHAIR WE HAVE INVESTED OVER $100 MILLION IN OTHER BUILDINGS AT THIS LOCATION.
OUR FUTURE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS IS GOING TO BE UPSET THAT WE TOOK AWAY THE CENTRAL PIECE OF LOCATING EVERYTHING TOGETHER.
I'M HANDCUFFED BY GOING OFF TOPIC, SO I'LL JUST PLAY THAT OUT THERE.
>> WELL, WE'VE HEARD A LOT OF DIFFERENT THOUGHTS HERE.
I GUESS WHAT I NEED TO DO IS JUST GO AHEAD AND WE CAN MAKE A MOTION.
WE CAN DO A SECOND, WE CAN CALL FOR A VOTE.
IF WE'RE NOT UNANIMOUS, THEN WE DON'T DO IT.
>> I MOVED TO APPROVE ACTION, ITEM NUMBER 1.
>> I'LL SECOND IT. WE GOT A MOTION IN A SECOND, AND WE'LL GO AHEAD AND CALL FOR THE VOTE, AND WE'LL SEE WHERE THIS LANDS.
[2. Board of Supervisors - Discussion and possible action regarding appointment to the position of Prescott Justice Court Justice of the Peace, pursuant to A.R.S. §11-402, 16-230, and 22-115.]
DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION.REGARDING THE APPOINTMENT TO THE POSITION OF THE PRESCOTT JUSTICE COURT, JUSTICE OF THE PEACE.
>> GOOD MORNING, CHAIR, VICE-CHAIR.
MEMBERS OF THE BOARD, MAURY THOMPSON, COUNTY MANAGER.
L TO START WITH JUST A BRIEF BIT OF BACKGROUND TO SET THE STAGE FOR YOUR POTENTIAL ACTION TODAY.
AS YOU ARE ALL AWARE, JUDGE MITCHELL PADILLA JUSTICE OF THE PEACE OF THE PRESCOTT JUSTICE PRECINCT, RESIGNED EFFECTIVE FRIDAY, MAY 30TH THE OF THIS YEAR.
THE RESPONSIBILITY FOR THE REPLACEMENT OF THIS JUSTICE OF THE PEACE LIES WITH THIS BODY, THE BOARD.
UPON JUDGE PADILLA'S RESIGNATION, THE PRESIDING JUDGE OF THE SUPERIOR COURT ASSUMED RESPONSIBILITY FOR THE OPERATION OF THE COURT UNTIL YOU FILL THAT VACANCY.
JUDGE SNAPPER HAS DONE SO AND HAS ENSURED THAT THE COURT HAS BEEN STAFFED WITH A JUDGE PROTEM SINCE JUDGE PADILLA'S RESIGNATION.
AS YOU'RE ALSO AWARE, WE LAID OUT A PROCESS, JUDGE NAPER AND I FOR THE BOARD'S CONSIDERATION
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ABOUT HOW YOU WOULD GO ABOUT FILLING THIS VACANCY.I WORKED WITH OUR HUMAN RESOURCES DIRECTOR TO POST THE POSITION FOR A TWO WEEK PERIOD.
WE ALSO ESTABLISHED A HIRING COMMITTEE, WHICH WAS COMPRISED OF THE FOLLOWING INDIVIDUALS, THE PRESIDING SUPERIOR COURT JUDGE, JOHN NAPER, THE PRESIDING JUSTICE OF THE PEACE, JUDGE DAVID GORDON, THE SUPERIOR COURT ADMINISTRATOR, JULIE MALANOWSKI, MYSELF, OUR HUMAN RESOURCES DIRECTOR WENDY ROSS, THE CHIEF DEPUTY COUNTY ATTORNEY, BILL HUGHES, AND FINALLY, OUR PUBLIC DEFENDER KENNEDY CLEGG.
THE HIRING COMMITTEE MET ON JULY 29 TO REVIEW THE TEN APPLICANTS.
THREE WERE SELECTED TO ADVANCE TO THE BOARD THIS MORNING FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION.
THEY ARE WILLIAM A. KUNISH, DOUGLAS J.
YOU HAVE RECEIVED THOSE APPLICATIONS AND ACCOMPANYING MATERIAL, AS WELL AS FOR THE FULL TEN, THAT WAS TRANSMITTED AT A LATER DATE.
AGAIN, WE'VE PLACED THIS ON YOUR AGENDA THIS MORNING.
PAST PRACTICE HAS INCLUDED NOTICING THE INDIVIDUALS, THE THREE TO BE CONSIDERED REGARDING THE BOARD'S POTENTIAL TO MOVE INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION FOR DISCUSSION WITH OR WITHOUT THEM PRESENT, OR THE BOARD MAY CHOOSE TO MAKE THE APPOINTMENT WITHOUT AN EXECUTIVE SESSION AT THE BOARD'S DISCRETION.
ALL THREE INDIVIDUALS ARE PRESENT, EITHER IN THE ROOM OR REMOTELY THIS MORNING TO ADDRESS THE BOARD AND ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS, MAKE ANY STATEMENTS AS YOU SO CHOOSE.
AT THAT POINT, CHAIR, I WOULD TURN IT BACK TO YOU FOR THE BOARD'S DECISION ON HOW YOU WOULD LIKE TO PROCEED.
AGAIN, I WILL NOTE THIS HAS BEEN NOTICED FOR EXECUTIVE SESSION AS WELL.
>> YES. AT THIS TIME, I WOULD REACH OUT TO THE BOARD.
DO WE WANT TO HEAR FROM THE APPLICANTS GOING TO EXECUTIVE SESSION BEFORE OR AFTER?
>> THIS IS AN ACTION ITEM, AND I MOVED TO RESCHEDULE THIS ITEM TO 917.
I'M HAPPY TO EXPLAIN MY REASONS IN DISCUSSION.
>> I'LL SECOND THAT, TOO. I THINK I START THINKING ABOUT THIS, AND WE'VE GIVEN AWAY WELL, I'LL WAIT TILL DISCUSSION, BUT.
>> WELL, WHATEVER WE SAY, LET'S STAY ON AGENDA.
>> CERTAINLY. IN IN REFERENCE TO THIS MATTER, THE SOLE AUTHORITY TO APPOINT IS WITH THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS.
THE SOLE AUTHORITY TO PICK NARROW DOWN TO THREE IS WITH THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS.
THIS IS A HIRING COMMITTEE THAT CANNOT HIRE.
THE APPROPRIATE PROCESS IS THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS APPOINTS AN ADVISORY COMMITTEE.
WITH THE ADVISORY COMMITTEE, IS THEN WHEN IT MEETS, THE CLERK OF THE BOARD POSTS IT.
THERE'S AN AGENDA AND ALL PROCESSES HAVE TO BE FOLLOWED AS THEY SHOULD BE.
OF COURSE, OPEN MEETING LAW AS WELL, AND THE PUBLIC NEEDS TO BE INVITED AND THAT HASN'T OCCURRED.
ALSO, THE ONLY REASON WE HAVE THE TEN RESUMES IS BECAUSE LAST THURSDAY, I DEMANDED THE RESUMES BECAUSE WE HADN'T RECEIVED THEM.
IT IS THE PURVIEW OF THE BOARD TO REVIEW ALL RESUMES AND MAKE THE DECISION SOLELY ON THEIR OWN.
THE 30 DAYS WILL GIVE US TIME, NOT THAT I WANT TO REINVENT THE WHEEL AND DO AN ADVISORY COMMITTEE, BUT THE 30 DAYS WILL GIVE US TIME TO PROPERLY REVIEW THE APPLICATIONS AND MEET WITH ANY OF THE APPLICANTS WE WISH TO.
THEN AT THE 917 DATE, WE CAN CHOOSE ONE OF THE TEN OR SOMEBODY ELSE IF WE WISH TO.
BUT THOSE ARE MY THOUGHTS. IT'S JUST THE PROCEDURES I HAVE A PROBLEM WITH.
IN ADDITION, ALSO, ON THE HIRING COMMITTEE, YOU HAVE PEOPLE WHO ARE GOING TO BE APPEARING IN FRONT OF THE JUDGE CHOOSING THE JUDGE.
TO ME, THAT'S A BLATANT CONFLICT OF INTEREST, AND THAT SHOULDN'T OCCURRED.
I'M NOT SAYING ANYTHING TO THE INTEGRITY OF THE MEN AND WOMEN, EXCUSE ME, I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S MEN OR WOMEN BECAUSE I HAVEN'T HAD A CHANCE TO GO THROUGH ALL OF THEM THAT HAVE APPLIED OR I DON'T WANT TO IMPUGN THEIR INTEGRITY AT ALL.
THIS IS SIMPLY A PROCEDURAL MATTER THAT I'M CONCERNED WITH.
>> I'M CONCERNED THAT MAYBE SOMEDAY I WILL HAVE TO GET IN FRONT OF ONE OF THESE JUDGES, BUT I PUT THE JP RIGHT UP THERE WITH THE IMPORTANCE AS A SUPREME COURT JUSTICE.
I THINK THIS IS THE CLOSEST JUDGE TO THE PEOPLE.
I THINK THAT YOU HAVE SPECIAL DUTIES, AND THE AVERAGE GUY HAS A REAL SHOT, AND YOU NEED THAT PERSON ON THAT BENCH THAT REALLY DOES THIS.
I AGREE WITH YOU, SUPERVISOR COMPTON, NOTHING AGAINST THE THREE THAT ARE THERE, BUT I ALMOST FEEL I'VE NEGLECTED MY DUTY AS A SUPERVISOR TO LOOK AT ALL TEN AND TO TALK WITH ALL TEN.
I HAVEN'T EVEN HAD ONE ON ONES WITH ALL THREE.
THAT WAS AVAILABLE, BUT I DIDN'T DO IT.
AFTER A SERIOUS THOUGHT, I THINK WE NEED TO LOOK AT ALL TEN.
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I THINK WE NEED TO TALK WITH ALL TEN.THIS IS A VERY IMPORTANT POSITION.
AS THE COURTS GO THROUGH CHANGES, PRESETS BREAKING OFF WITH THEIR COURT FROM OUR COURT, IT'S GOING TO TAKE A SPECIAL INDIVIDUAL TO HOLD THAT JP POSITION TOGETHER.
>> AS MANY OF YOU KNOW, I FEEL PASSIONATELY ABOUT ENGAGING THE BOARD MORE DEEPLY ON APPOINTMENTS BROADLY.
ESPECIALLY WITH AN APPOINTMENT OF THIS NATURE AND WEIGHT, I REALLY APPRECIATE THE BOARD'S COMMENTS, AND I'M SUPPORTIVE OF DIGGING INTO THIS A LITTLE BIT DEEPER BEFORE WE MAKE A DECISION.
>> SUPERVISOR JENKINS? DID YOU HAVE ANY COMMENTS?
>> I DON'T HAVE ANY ADDITIONAL COMMENTS. THANK YOU.
I'VE BEEN ON THE BOARD FOR QUITE A FEW YEARS HERE.
I'VE NEVER SEEN THIS PROCESS, NEVER BEEN THROUGH IT, BECAUSE WE HAVEN'T HAD A SITUATION LIKE THIS COME ABOUT.
ARE YOU AWARE OF HOW THEY DID IT OR IF THERE WAS EVER A SITUATION WHERE THEY HAD TO APPOINT A JUDGE.
DID THEY FOLLOW THIS PROCEDURE OR DO YOU KNOW MR. THOMPSON?
>> THANK YOU, CHAIR. I DO NOT KNOW.
I WOULD JUST NOTE THAT THIS WAS THE PROCESS LAID OUT BY THE PRESIDING JUDGE AND MYSELF ON JULY 31, IS WHEN WE LAID OUT THIS PROCESS CURRENT ONE.
>> MADAM CHAIR, THERE IN LIES THE CONFLICT TO ME THAT WAS LAID OUT BY THE JUDGE.
IT SHOULD BE LAID OUT BY THE BOARD.
THERE'S PLENTY OF EXAMPLES OF HOW THIS SHOULD PROCEED.
THE BOARD SETS UP AN ADVISORY COMMITTEE SELECTED BY THE BOARD.
WE THEN HAVE IT POSTED BY THE CLERK OF THE BOARD.
OPENLY MEETING LAW IS FOLLOWED.
YOU HAVE AN AGENDA, MINUTES ARE KEPT.
IT'S NOT IN THE DARK RIGHT NOW.
IT'S BEEN IN THE DARK. IT'S JUST QUITE FRANKLY, WE NEED RULES OF PROCEDURE FOR APPOINTING JUDGES, AND WE NEED TO DO THAT IN THE FUTURE.
BUT THAT'S A DIFFERENT DISCUSSION.
WE NEED THE TIME TO REVIEW THE APPLICATIONS.
AS I SAID, I'M NOT ASKING TO REDO THE WHOLE THING.
I'M SURE THERE'S QUALIFIED CANDIDATES IN THERE, BUT WE NEED THE TIME TO REVIEW THE DOCUMENTS AND THE RESUMES BEFORE WE MAKE A DECISION IN MY VIEW.
>> MADAM CHAIR, I THINK IT WOULD BE WISE TO HEAR FROM THIS COMMITTEE AND WHY YOU GUYS CAME UP WITH THE THREE THAT YOU DID, THE PROS AND THE CONS, AND I THINK IT HAS TO BE KEPT CONFIDENTIAL BECAUSE THERE'S A LOT OF REPUTATIONS IN LINE HERE.
BUT I AGREE. I'D LIKE TO KNOCK IT OFF A LITTLE BIT.
>> I'M SORRY, GO AHEAD, SUPERVISOR.
>> I'M UNFAMILIAR WITH THE PROCESS THAT THE VICE-CHAIR OUTLINED, BUT MY OPINION IS IF THERE IS A QUESTION ON PROCEDURAL ISSUES THAT WE NEED TO TAKE A STEP BACK AND MAKE SURE WE DOT THE S AND CROSS THE T. I WOULD AGREE ON THAT PREMISE THAT IF THERE IS ANY QUESTION AS TO WHETHER THE CORRECT PROCEDURE FOLLOW IT OR NOT, WE NEED TO TAKE A LOOK AT THAT FIRST.
>> TO YOUR POINT, VICE-CHAIR, THAT'S THE REASON I ASKED THE QUESTION.
HOW WAS IT EVER DONE BEFORE? WAS THERE A PROCEDURE? OBVIOUSLY, I DON'T THINK THERE WAS.
MAYBE WE HAVEN'T HAD THIS SITUATION, BUT AT THE SAME TIME, IT IS A SERIOUS DECISION.
WHEN WE MAKE THESE VOTES AND THESE DECISIONS, WE HAVE TO DO THE BEST WE CAN.
WE HAVE TO UNDERSTAND THERE ARE CONSEQUENCES TO EVERYTHING WE DO, AND HOW DO WE MOVE THIS FORWARD? THE BEST WAY THAT WE CAN DO THIS WOULD BE TO INCREASE OUR KNOWLEDGE OF THIS WHOLE PROCESS.
I THINK THE DIRECTION IS AT THIS TIME, MR. THOMPSON, THAT WE GO AHEAD AND SEND THIS OFF AND BRING IT BACK, I'M CORRECT TO MY COLLEAGUES 917, IS THAT CORRECT, VICE-CHAIR?
>> YES, THAT'S THE MOTION IS TO POSTPONE UNTIL 917.
>> WE HAVE A MOTION, AND WE HAVE A SECOND.
CAN I CALL FOR THE VOTE, PLEASE?
>> ITEM HAS BEEN TABLED TO SEPTEMBER 17, 2025.
>> MADAM CHAIR. CAN I ASK A QUESTION, COUNSEL?
>> IF WE SET UP THESE INTERVIEWS, CAN WE BE IN THERE TWO AT A TIME TO MAKE IT MORE EFFICIENT FOR THE CANDIDATES? CAN TWO SUPERVISORS BE IN THERE AT A TIME? NOT THREE.
>> WE ARE GOING TO MOVE ON TO HEARINGS NOW.
[1. Development Services - Recommend approval to the Arizona Department of Liquor Licenses and Control of series 12 Restaurant Liquor License Application #351426 without protest, submitted by Jennifer Lynn Wriston for Copper Country Bar & Grill located at 901 N. Lindahl, Bagdad, AZ 86321 (District 1 - Supervisor Compton)]
ITEM NUMBER 1 IS DEVELOPMENT SERVICES RECOMMENDING APPROVAL TO THE ARIZONA DEPARTMENT OF LIQUOR LICENSES.[00:50:03]
>> MORNING, AGAIN, CHAIR MALLORY AND BOARD MEMBERS.
JEREMY DYE, DIRECTOR FOR DEVELOPMENT SERVICES.
THIS IS JUST A VERY STANDARD LIQUOR LICENSE APPLICATION, A SERIES 12 RESTAURANT LIQUOR LICENSE APPLICATION FOR THE COPPER COUNTRY BAR AND GRILL, LOCATED IN BAGDAD IN VICE CHAIR COMPTON'S DISTRICT.
>> YES, IT IS. VICE CHAIR COMPTON, THIS IS YOUR ITEM.
I'M SUPPORTIVE OF IT, AND I MOVED TO APPROVE HEARING ITEM NUMBER 1.
>> WE HAVE A MOTION, AND WE HAVE A SECOND.
CAN WE CALL FOR THE VOTE, PLEASE?
>> YES. I WANT TO SAY I DIDN'T.
IT IS A HEARING ITEM, SO I SHOULD HAVE CHECKED.
>> THERE WERE NO PUBLIC COMMENTS RECEIVED ON THIS ITEM.
>> AND NOTHING IN THE AUDIENCE? SORRY ABOUT THAT.
MY BAD. MOVING ON TO ITEM NUMBER 2.
[2. Development Services - Approve a permanent and transferable Use Permit for APNs: 502-09-007, 006F, 004, 003N to allow for the development of a commercial fuel station and travel center on four parcels comprising 22.15 acres, subject to conditions of approval. Owner: Takhar Associates Investment Group LLC. Applicant/Agent: John Reddell. Application No. PLA24-000148. (District 2 - Supervisor Jenkins)]
DEVELOPMENT SERVICES APPROVE A PERMANENT AND TRANSFERABLE USE PERMIT.I BET THAT'S YOU, JEREMY, BECAUSE NO ONE ELSE SHOWED UP FOR THE PARTY.
>> NO ONE. GOOD MORNING, CHAIR MALLORY AND BOARD MEMBERS.
I'M ACTUALLY EXPECTING MY PLANNER TO BE HERE TO PRESENT ON THIS HEARING ITEM NUMBER 2 FOR THE USE PERMIT FOR COMMERCIAL FUEL STATION AND TRAVEL CENTER ON FOUR PARCELS IN BLACK CANYON CITY.
>> SHE'S RIGHT BEHIND YOU. NO WORRY.
WE'RE MOVING ALONG QUITE QUICKLY HERE THIS MORNING WHICH IS NICE.
>> YOU HAD JUST TOOK THE PODIUM WHEN I WALKED OUT OF THE OFFICE.
FORGIVE ME A MOMENT WHILE I PULL UP THE [INAUDIBLE]
>> [OVERLAPPING] NO WORRIES. IT'S FINE.
>> WE ALREADY HEARD FROM JEREMY, ANYWAY.
IT'S NICE TO SEE A FRESH FACE.
>> I AM. WHERE'S THE PRESENTATION FOLDER?
>> I WILL MAKE NOTE THIS IS IN SUPERVISOR JENKINS' DISTRICT, DISTRICT 2.
WE DO HAVE MANY GREEN SHEETS, COMMENTS TO HEAR.
HOWEVER, YOU WANT TO HANDLE THIS AFTER WE MOVE FORWARD, SUPERVISOR WILL FOLLOW YOU.
>> WE'RE GOING TO NEED THE CONDITIONS ALSO, THOUGH, THAT WE GOT THERE.
GOOD MORNING. THANK YOU FOR YOUR PATIENCE.
BJ RATLIEF WITH DEVELOPMENT SERVICES, ONE OF THE PLANNERS HERE.
GOOD MORNING CHAIRMAN, VICE CHAIRMAN, AND SUPERVISORS.
THIS MORNING, I WILL BE BRINGING THE APPLICATION OR PRESENTING THE APPLICATION FOR BLACK CANYON TRAVEL CENTER USE PERMIT.
THIS APPLICATION WAS HEARD ON JULY 17 WITH THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION.
AT THAT TIME, WE HAD A UNANIMOUS RECOMMENDATION OF APPROVAL.
WE HAVE COMMISSIONER RADOCCIA IN THE AUDIENCE SHOULD YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THEIR DELIBERATIONS.
HE IS HERE, IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THEIR DELIBERATION.
BRIEFLY, THE APPLICATION REQUEST IS FOR A PERMANENT AND TRANSFERABLE USE PERMIT FOR DEVELOPMENT OF A MULTI-COMPONENT TRAVEL CENTER TO INCLUDE A FUEL STATION, NOT A TRUCK STOP ONLY FOR THE AUTOMOBILES.
THERE YOU GO. THAT IMAGE THERE IS MORE ACCURATE TO WHAT THEY'RE PROPOSING, WHICH WILL INCLUDE A FAST FOOD RESTAURANT WITH A DRIVE THROUGH, CONVENIENCE STORE, SECURITY OFFICE, WHICH I'LL CHAT A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT IN A MOMENT.
THEN FUTURE, THE FIRST PART THERE WOULD BE THEIR INITIAL DEVELOPMENT, AND THEN ONCE THAT'S DONE, THEN THEY WOULD LOOK AT PUTTING IN TWO KIOSKS OR THOSE LITTLE COFFEE SHOPS THAT YOU DRIVE THROUGH OR WALK UP TO THAT THEY'RE POPPING UP ALL OVER THE PLACE.
THEN SOME EV STATIONS WOULD ALSO BE ON THE PROPERTY.
THOSE ARE THE MAIN INFRASTRUCTURE COMPONENTS THAT WAS PART OF THIS PROJECT.
THE BIGGEST QUESTION WE'VE HAD OF RECENTLY OF USE PERMIT VERSUS ZONING MAP CHANGE, WHY DID WE GO USE PERMIT? WHY IS THIS A USE PERMIT NOT A ZONING MAP CHANGE? THERE WERE TWO MAJOR ISSUES.
ONE, THE APPLICATION CAME IN LATE DECEMBER.
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WE STARTED WORKING ON IT EARLY IN JANUARY, FEBRUARY, AND AS YOU ALL REMEMBER, WE LITERALLY SIGNED THE CONTRACT TO START WORKING ON THE PLANNING AND ZONING ORDINANCE.THAT WAS ONE PIECE RATHER THAN THE IDEA WAS, INSTEAD OF DEALING WITH ONE PARTICULAR PIECE OF PROPERTY, WE WANTED TO BACK UP AND LET THE BOARD DEAL WITH THE ENTIRE ZONING MAP CHANGES THAT GOT DEALT WITH.
THAT WAS PART OF IT, BUT THE BIGGEST PIECE THAT PUT US IN WHERE WE SUGGESTED AND RECOMMENDED THE USE PERMIT IS THE ACTUAL COMPREHENSIVE PLAN ITSELF.
CURRENTLY, WE HAVE SOME PROCEDURAL ISSUES WITH THE TEXT WITHIN THERE TO BRING AN AMENDMENT TO THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
YOU'RE GOING TO BE SEEING VERY SOON, WE HOPE, AN AMENDMENT TO THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, BUT CURRENTLY PROCEDURALLY, WE'RE STYMIED IN THE ABILITY TO BRING FORTH SUCCESSFULLY A ZONING MAP CHANGE BECAUSE THE APPLICATION FOR A ZONING MAP CHANGE WOULD REQUIRE BOTH THE APPLICATION FOR A ZONING MAP CHANGE AND AN APPLICATION TO AMEND THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN MAP.
THIS MAP THAT WE'RE SEEING HERE, THAT IS NOT ACTUALLY A ZONING MAP, THAT IS THE MAP THAT'S OUT OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
THAT WAS WHAT IS APPROVED OUT OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
YOU CAN SEE THIS PARTICULAR AREA IS ALL COMMERCIAL.
ON ONE ASPECT, THIS PROJECT MEETS IT, AND I'LL TALK A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT THAT IN A FEW MOMENTS.
THERE WE GO. HERE IS THE UNDERLYING ZONING OF THIS.
YOU CAN SEE THAT THIS MAJOR PARCEL HERE, THIS NINE-ACRE PARCEL, ACTUALLY HAS DUAL ZONING.
WE'RE DEALING WITH TWO ISSUES, THE ZONING AND THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN MAP.
TO BRING FORWARD A ZONING MAP CHANGE, WE WOULD NEED TO BRING FORWARD AN APPLICATION TO AMEND THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN MAP.
THAT PIECE WOULD NOT HAVE NEEDED TO BE AMENDED, BUT THIS PARCEL AS RESIDENTIAL, WOULD HAVE NEEDED TO BE AMENDED AS PART OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
THERE WOULD HAVE BEEN TWO APPLICATIONS.
THE AMENDMENT TO THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, AS WELL AS THE ZONING MAP CHANGE.
THERE ARE TWO ASPECTS OF THIS.
THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN RIGHT NOW, WE HAVE SOME PROCEDURAL ISSUES WITH THE TEXT THAT HAS REALLY STYMIED THE ABILITY FOR US TO BRING FORWARD A ZONING MAP CHANGE APPLICATION.
WE HAVE LANGUAGE AND DRAFT TO CORRECT THAT.
HOPEFULLY, VERY SOON, YOU'LL BE SEEING THAT.
THAT IS THE REASON THAT STAFF RECOMMENDED WE MOVE FORWARD WITH THE USE PERMIT AT THIS TIME.
CONTINUING ON WITH THIS, YOU CAN SEE THIS IS THE ACTUAL ZONING.
THIS SITE MAP, AS YOU CAN SEE. HERE WE GO.
THE GRAY AREA IS THE ACTUAL ZONING THAT IS C2.
BUT THIS AREA OVER HERE AND THIS PART OF THE PARCEL IS ACTUALLY R2.
YOU CAN SEE MOST OF THE INFRASTRUCTURE IS ACTUALLY ON WHAT IS ALREADY ZONED C2.
BY RIGHT, WHAT'S GOING IN THERE IS ALLOWABLE BY RIGHT IN THE C2 ZONING.
IT'S THE AREA THAT IS OUTSIDE OF THE C2 ZONING.
THIS R2 AREA THAT REQUIRES US TO GO FOR THE USE PERMIT IN PARTICULAR.
PARTICULARLY THAT INFRASTRUCTURE, AND YOU CAN SEE IT.
I'LL SHOW IT TO YOU ON THIS MAP. EXCUSE ME.
WE HAVE THREE OF THE FUEL PUMPS, DISPENSERS, ONE, TWO, AND THEN A THIRD ONE RIGHT THERE.
THAT IS WITHIN THE C2 ZONING, AS WELL AS THE CANOPY THAT'S GOING TO BE OVER THEM, WITHIN THE R TWO ZONING, WITH THE CANOPY.
THE UNDERGROUND FUEL STATIONS OR FUEL TANKS ARE HERE.
THE EV STATION IS HERE. THE SIGNAGE.
WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A SIGN, THEY'RE PROPOSING A SIGN, WHICH WOULD BE WITHIN THE R2 OVER HERE, A SIGN HERE, AS WELL AS DOWN HERE.
THEN PART OF ONE OF THE LITTLE KIOSKS IS THERE AS WELL AS THE EV STATIONS.
IT'S THAT INFRASTRUCTURE WITHIN THE R2 ZONING, WHICH WOULD HAVE REQUIRED AN AMENDMENT TO THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND IS NOT ALLOWABLE BY RIGHT.
THAT'S WHY WE'RE HERE BEFORE YOU WITH THE USE PERMIT APPLICATION.
DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ON THAT BEFORE I MOVE ON? ANY QUESTIONS FROM THE BOARD IN REGARDS TO THE USE PERMIT?
>> SURE. I'M DEALING WITH THE 19 TRUCK STOP UP IN ASH FORK RIGHT NOW AND THE THINGS THAT COME ALONG WITH IT, AND I REALIZE THIS ISN'T A TRUCK STOP.
BUT MY QUESTION WOULD BE, WHAT IS BEING DONE AND MITIGATE THE IMPACT.
IT LOOKED LIKE THERE WAS RESIDENTIAL ZONING RIGHT ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THAT STREET.
WE HAVE ALLOWED IN THE PAST, WHICH IS WHAT I'M DEALING WITH A PLASTIC SIX-FOOT FENCE THAT IS CONSTANTLY BLOWING DOWN, FALLING OVER, GETTING HOLES.
WHAT IS PLANNED TO MITIGATE THE LIGHT, THE NOISE, AND IMPACT TO THE RESIDENTS ACROSS THE STREET?
>> BEFORE YOU ANSWER THAT, I WOULD JUST LIKE TO REMIND THE AUDIENCE, EVERYBODY WILL HAVE A CHANCE TO SPEAK,
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BUT I DO REQUIRE ORDER.PLEASE, WE'LL ALL HAVE OUR MOMENT, AND PLEASE DON'T YELL FROM OVER THERE IN THE AUDIENCE.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH. GO AHEAD.
>> IF YOU WOULDN'T MIND, CAN I HOLD OFF ON THAT AND I'LL SHOW YOU THE REST OF IT, AND I MAY BE ABLE TO ANSWER SOME OF IT.
RIGHT NOW THERE IS NOT SPECIFIC SCREENING DESIGNED END, BUT WE CAN CERTAINLY LOOK AT IT.
IF I DON'T ANSWER IT AS WE GET THROUGH THE PRESENTATION, EITHER WE'LL COME BACK TO IT OR THE APPLICANT CAN HELP ADDRESS IT TOO.
>> ABSOLUTELY. THANK YOU. SORRY, I WAS TOO EARLY.
>> NO, THAT'S OKAY. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ON THE USE PERMIT VERSUS ZONING MAP CHANGE PIECE OF IT?
GETTING INTO THE MEAT OF THIS.
THE PROJECT IS LOCATED WITHIN THE COMMUNITY OF BLACK CANYON CITY, DISTRICT 2, SUPERVISOR JENKINS' AREA.
AGAIN, IT'S ON THAT NORTHERN PORTION OF BLACK CANYON CITY, AND DRAW YOUR ATTENTION TO AGUA FRIA NATIONAL MONUMENT. GO TOO FAST.
AGUA FRIA NATIONAL MONUMENT IS ON THAT NORTH END, AND I'LL HIGHLIGHT THAT TO YOU HERE IN A FEW MOMENTS.
THE ADDRESS, 33050 SOUTH COLDWATER ROAD, AGAIN, BLACK CANYON CITY.
THIS IS AN AERIAL OF IT, AND YOU CAN SEE THE AGUA FRIA NATIONAL MONUMENT AND THE STATE LANDS ARE DUE NORTH OF IT.
THEN THIS IS CHILLEEN'S, THE RESTAURANT THERE, AND I'LL SHOW YOU THAT IN A MOMENT. HOW DO YOU GET TO IT? IF YOU'RE TRAVELING SOUTHBOUND OFF OF I-17, YOUR ACCESS WILL BE AT EXIT 244, WHERE YOU WOULD TAKE THAT LEFT HAND TURN ONTO COLDWATER ROAD, COME ACROSS THE INTERSTATE, AND HOOK DOWN INTO THE PROPERTY.
THIS ENTRANCE THAT IS SHOWN HERE WOULD NOT BE THE PROPOSED ENTRANCE FOR IT.
THE PROPOSED ENTRANCE WOULD ACTUALLY BE OVER HERE.
THIS IS JUST THE HISTORICAL AND CURRENT ENTRANCE TO GET INTO CHILLEEN'S RIGHT NOW.
IF YOU'RE TRAVELING NORTH, AGAIN, NORTH BOUND ON I-17, EXIT 244, ONTO COLDWATER, AND THEN HOOK DOWN AROUND INTO THE PROPERTY.
AGAIN, NOW YOU CAN SEE THE NEIGHBORING BUSINESSES AND THE NATIONAL MONUMENT.
THE NATIONAL MONUMENT THERE TO THE NORTH AS WELL AS STATE LANDS TO THE NORTH.
IN RED, YOU CAN SEE THE ENTIRE PROJECT PARCELS, ALL FOUR PARCELS, WITH CHILLEEN'S HERE ON THREE SIDES.
YES, YOU CAN START TO SEE, AND I'LL BRING IT UP HERE IN A MINUTE, BUT YOU CAN TO SEE THERE IS SOME RESIDENTIAL OVER HERE ON THE EAST.
THERE IS ONE HOUSE DOWN HERE, AND THEN SOME ADDITIONAL PARTIAL RESIDENTIAL DOWN TO THE SOUTH, AND AGAIN, OVER HERE, AND WE'LL SHOW THAT TO YOU AGAIN IN JUST A MOMENT.
THIS IS AGUA FRIA. THIS IS JUST TO HIGHLIGHT AGAIN THAT THIS PARCEL.
YOU CAN SEE THE PROJECT PARCELS HERE, AND THEY IMMEDIATELY BUT AGUA FRIA NATIONAL MONUMENT RIGHT THERE TO THE NORTH.
HIGHLIGHTING THAT, WE'RE ACTUALLY ARE BRINGING IN AN ADDITIONAL CONDITION THAT WE PROPOSED FOR LANDSCAPING IN THAT AREA.
WE'LL TALK ABOUT THAT AS WE GET THROUGH THE PROJECT.
ZONING. AS I MENTIONED, THIS PARTICULAR PARCEL, OR ONE OF THE MAIN PARCELS, THE NINE-ACRE PARCEL HERE ACTUALLY HAS DUAL ZONING, COMMERCIAL AND RESIDENTIAL.
BUT TO THE NORTH OF US, WE HAVE RESIDENTIAL.
IT'S RESIDENTIAL, BUT THAT IS THE MONUMENT.
HOPEFULLY WE WON'T EVER SEE, HOPEFULLY THAT WILL REMAIN A NATIONAL MONUMENT.
TO THE EAST, WE HAVE RESIDENTIAL, TO THE SOUTH, RESIDENTIAL, R2, AND TO THE WEST ON THE FAR SIDE OF THE INTERSTATE, ALSO RESIDENTIAL, THE R1L ZONING.
THIS IS BASICALLY THE SAME AREA, ONLY THIS TIME, I HAVE MADE THE ZONING TRANSPARENT, WHERE YOU CAN SEE, AGAIN, THERE IS SOME DEVELOPMENT HERE ON THE EAST SIDE, SHOWING SOME PARTIAL RESIDENTIAL OVER HERE.
A LITTLE BIT, THERE IS ONE HOUSE RIGHT HERE, IMMEDIATELY ADJACENT TO THIS PARCEL, ALTHOUGH THERE'S NO DEVELOPMENT DOWN IN THIS AREA. THEN THE R1L OVER HERE. THAT IS THE ZONING. AGAIN, THE ZONING FOR THE PROJECT, C2 AND R2.
WE'LL LOOK AT THAT VERY SPECIFICALLY NOW.
THE SMALL PARCEL WHERE DEVELOPMENT IS, THIS IS FULLY C2, WHERE THE DEVELOPMENT GOING IN HERE IS ALLOWED BY RIGHT.
I'M GOING TO JUMP DOWN TO THE SOUTH.
THIS IS R2. DOWN HERE, NO DEVELOPMENT IS PLANNED FOR THIS PARTICULAR PARCEL.
THIS PARCEL IS FULLY R2, AND THERE WOULD BE A LITTLE BIT OF DEVELOPMENT UP HERE.
THE PROPOSED ENTRANCE ROAD WOULD BE RIGHT IN HERE AND A LITTLE BIT OF PARKING OVER HERE.
I'LL SHOW YOU THAT AGAIN AS WE WORK THROUGH IT.
BUT THIS PARCEL IS DUALLY ZONED C2 AND R2.
HOW DO YOU GET ACCESS RIGHT NOW TO THERE?
>> RIGHT NOW, IT IS THE ENTRANCE, YOU CAN SEE IT RIGHT HERE.
THIS IS A HISTORIC ENTRANCE THAT COMES DOWN AND WILL REMAIN.
YOU COME IN ON COLD WATER AND HOOK, MAKE THAT HARD RIGHT AND COME RIGHT DOWN THROUGH HERE.
>> THAT WOULDN'T BE AFFECTED BY THIS?
>> NO, THAT ENTRANCE WILL REMAIN.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS BEFORE MOVING ON TO THE SITE PLAN? THE SITE PLAN AND THE GENERAL STRUCTURES.
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THIS IS THAT SITE PLAN WHERE THIS PORTION, THIS GRADE AREA IS, THE ALREADY COMMERCIAL TOO.EVERYTHING GOING ON HERE WOULD BE ALLOWED BY RIGHT.
WE'RE HERE FOR THE INFRASTRUCTURE GOING IN ON THIS SIDE OR THE RESIDENTIAL PORTION OF IT.
AGAIN, THIS IS JUST SHOWING YOU THAT MULTI-ZONE, AND YOU CAN SEE, I'VE JUST HIGHLIGHTED THIS PARCEL LINE HERE IS THIS YELLOW LINE HERE, WHERE YOU CAN SEE JUST A LITTLE BIT OF THE ENTRANCE COMING IN AND PARKING A LITTLE BIT ON THIS PARTICULAR PARCEL THERE.
PLANNED, IT WOULD BE A FAST FOOD RESTAURANT WITH A DRIVE THROUGH.
THAT'S ACTUALLY THE EAST SIDE.
CONVENIENCE STORE, SECURITY OPERATION.
I'LL LET THE APPLICANT SPEAK MORE ABOUT THAT, BUT THAT ACTUALLY CAME OUT OF THE FIRST NEIGHBORHOOD MEETING THAT THEY HAD SOME CONCERNS ABOUT SECURITY ON THE SITE.
THEY ARE PLANNING A FULL-TIME SECURITY OPERATION.
THE FUEL PUMPS, THE FUTURE LITTLE KIOSK, COFFEE DRINK AREAS, AND THEN THE EV STATIONS.
THAT'S THE PRIMARY HEART INFRASTRUCTURE THAT'S PLANNED FOR THE AREA.
ANY QUESTIONS ON THAT BEFORE I JUMP INTO THE SIGNS?
>> ARE THE TANKS ABOVE GROUND OR BURIED?
>> [OVERLAPPING] I BELIEVE THEY ARE BURIED.
>> THEY'RE ABOVE GROUND. I JUST GOT ABOVE GROUND.
>> THEY WOULD BE WALLED OFF ABOVE GROUND IS WHAT HE JUST TOLD ME.
>> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS BEFORE JUMPING ON TO, OOPS, GOING BACKWARDS, SIGNS.
THIS WAS INTERESTING WHEN I STARTED PUTTING THIS TOGETHER.
BY RIGHT, IF ALL OF THIS HAD BEEN COMMERCIAL, AND THEY COULD HAVE JUST SUBMITTED FOR THEIR BUILDING PLANS OR THEIR BUILDING PERMITS, THEY WOULD HAVE ONLY BEEN ALLOWED 128 SQUARE FOOT OF SIGNAGE TOTAL, AND THAT'S BY OUR ORDINANCE TO DATE, AND 50% COULD HAVE BEEN A MONUMENT SIGN, SO 64 SQUARE FOOT FOR A MONUMENT SIGN, AND THEN THE OTHER 64 SQUARE FOOT FOR OTHER SIGNAGE FOR THE ENTIRE PROJECT, AND THAT'S PRETTY MINIMALISTIC SIGNAGE.
AS PART OF THE APPLICATION, THEY'RE ASKING FOR WHAT'S WHAT WE WOULD CALL A SIGN ALLOTMENT.
THEY'RE REQUESTING 957 SQUARE FOOT TOTAL FOR THE BUILDING SIGNS, AND WE HAVE ELEVATIONS.
I CAN SHOW YOU WHAT THEY THINK THAT WOULD LOOK LIKE, LITTLE OVER 700 SQUARE FOOT FOR THE BUILDINGS.
THE MAIN BUILDING IS THE CONVENIENCE STORE AND THE FAST FOOD RESTAURANT.
IT'S ALL ONE STRUCTURE ALTOGETHER.
THE FUEL CANOPIES, LITTLE OVER 100 SQUARE FOOT, THE SECURITY OFFICE, 48 SQUARE FOOT, AND EACH OF THE TWO LITTLE KIOSKS, 32 SQUARE FOOT.
>> YOUR GRAPH SAYS REQUESTED SIZE AND HEIGHT, BUT THERE'S NO HEIGHT ON THERE.
>> THESE WOULD ACTUALLY BE ON THE BUILDINGS.
>> THEY WOULD BE ACTUALLY BE ON THE BUILDINGS.
THIS IS AN ELEVATION SHOWING THESE BUILDINGS AND WHERE THE SIGNS AND WHERE THEY WOULD FORSEE THE SIGNS ACTUALLY BEING, AND OBVIOUSLY, IT'S JUST SQUARE FOOTAGE AT THIS TIME.
THE FRONT OF THE FAST FOOD RESTAURANT OVER THERE TO THE LEFT, THE FRONT OF THE CONVENIENCE STORE, THE REAR OF THE CONVENIENCE STORE.
THIS IS THE REAR OF THE FAST FOOD RESTAURANT.
THE FAST FOOD DRIVE THROUGH AREA, AND ALSO, IF YOU LOOK UP HERE, THIS IS ACTUALLY PART OF THE DRIVE THROUGH HERE ON THE FRONT THAT THEY WOULD BE DRIVING OUT OF.
THEN, LET'S SEE, THE WEST SIDE OF THE CONVENIENCE STORE, WHICH IS WHERE THE OFFICE MATE THE EMPLOYEE AREA AND WALK IN COOLER, AND THEN THE EAST SIDE OF THE FAST FOOD RESTAURANTS SO THE VAST MAJORITY OF THAT 700, YOU CAN SEE THIS IS HOW THEY WOULD BE PUT DISPERSING IN BETWEEN THE DIFFERENT BUILDINGS.
THE CANOPY PORTIONS WOULD BE UP HERE.
YOU CAN SEE THE SIGNS HERE ON THE CANOPIES, WHERE THAT ALLOTMENT WOULD GO.
DOWN HERE, AGAIN, THESE ARE THE LITTLE KIOSK BUILDINGS.
THEY'VE GOT THE 16 SQUARE FOOT HERE.
I BELIEVE THIS IS THE FRONT OF THEM, AND THEN WE ALSO HAVE THE SECURITY BUILDINGS, LITTLE 12 FOOT SIGNS IN EACH SIDE OF THE SECURITY BUILDING.
THAT'S THE 957 SQUARE FOOT ALLOTMENT FOR THE BUILDINGS THEMSELVES.
THEN WE COME TO THE MONUMENT PILON OR MARQUEE SIGNS THAT THEY'RE CALLING.
THEIR APPLICATION ACTUALLY CALLS IT A MARQUEE SIGN.
WE WOULD PROBABLY MORE TECHNICALLY CALL IT A PILON SIGN.
BEGINNING IN THE MIDDLE, THE 16 SQUARE FOOT MONUMENT SIGN, AND THEN I HAVE A MAP.
I'LL SHOW YOU WHERE THESE ARE ON A MAP IN JUST A MOMENT, AND THEN THE HIGHWAY SIGN FOR INTERSTATE 17, 40 FOOT TALL, 560 SQUARE FOOT, AND THEN ALONG COLDWATER, 40 FOOT TALL, 325 SQUARE FOOT, AND WE HAVE SOME MARKUPS FOR YOU HERE.
THAT MONUMENT SIGN, AGAIN, THE IDEA IS TRAFFIC WOULD COME IN ON COLD WATER AND COME IN THIS WAY, WHERE THERE WOULD BE A RIGHT HAND TURN LANE, AND THIS WOULD BE A 16 SQUARE FOOT SIGN, SIX FOOT HEIGHT DUAL SIDED SIGN HERE, AND EVERYTHING IS PROPOSED TO BE ILLUMINATED.
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THEY DO KNOW THAT WE HAVE A NEW LIGHTING ORDINANCE, AND THEY PLAN TO MEET THAT NEW LIGHTING ORDINANCE.THAT TAKES US THEN TO THE ONE HERE ON COLDWATER, 40 FOOT TALL, 325 SQUARE FOOT, AND THEN DOWN HERE AT THE FREEWAY, AND THIS IS ON OUR R2 PROPERTY, 40 FOOT TALL, 560 SQUARE FOOT TOTAL.
I'LL BRING OUT, AND AGAIN, THIS IS PART OF THE USE PERMIT.
ACTUALLY, ALL THREE OF THESE SIGNS WOULD BE LOCATED ON ZONING THAT IS R2, SO WOULD NOT BE ALLOWABLE AT ALL, BECAUSE IT'S RESIDENTIAL ZONING.
BUT AS PART OF THE PROJECT IN A USE PERMIT, THEY CAN BE ALLOWABLE THIS WAY.
HOWEVER, THE HEIGHT OF 40 FOOT, IF ALL THE PROPERTY WERE COMMERCIAL, THAT HEIGHT OF 40 FOOT WOULD BE ALLOWABLE BY RIGHT, BUT THE BIG SQUARE FOOTAGES WOULD NOT.
JUST SOME BACKGROUND INFORMATION ON THE CURRENT ORDINANCE.
LOOKING A LITTLE BIT MORE CLOSELY AT THE 325 SQUARE FOOT SIGN, 40 FOOT TALL, IS PLANNED TO GO HERE ALONG COLDWATER, AND THE IDEA BEHIND THIS PARTICULAR SIGN AND LOCATION IS, AS THEY COME IN OFF OF THE INTERSTATE AND COME ONTO COLDWATER, THEY ACTUALLY DON'T WANT THEM, ALTHOUGH THIS ROAD IS GOING TO BE COMING IN, THE IDEA IS TO DRAW THE TRAFFIC THIS DIRECTION.
HAVING IT DOWN HERE, THE THOUGHT CONCEPT WAS TO DRAW THE TRAFFIC DOWN HERE TO BRING THEM INTO THAT MAIN ENTRANCE.
THAT WAS PART OF THE CONCEPT BEHIND THIS ONE.
AGAIN, THAT GIVES YOU A LITTLE BIT OF RENDITION THAT THE ACTUAL SIGNAGE AND STUFF IS NOT ACCURATE.
IT'S JUST PROPOSED RIGHT NOW JUST TO GIVE YOU A MARK UP OF WHAT THE SIGN WOULD LOOK LIKE, GENERALLY SPEAKING.
THEN DOWN HERE FOR THE INTERSTATE SIGN, AGAIN, 40 FOOT TALL, ALL TOTAL 560 SQUARE FOOT DOWN HERE ON THE R2.
THIS WOULD BE VISIBLE FROM R17.
TO GIVE YOU A LITTLE BIT OF CONTEXT, CORDIS JUNCTION, THE TWO LARGE FUEL STOPS THERE AT CORDIS JUNCTION.
THE PILOT HAS AN 80 FOOT TALL SIGN, AND THE LOVES HAS A 75 FOOT SIGN.
THESE ARE LITERALLY ALMOST HALF OF THAT IN HEIGHT.
SQUARE FOOTAGE IS STILL A LITTLE BIT LESS, BUT SOMEWHAT COMPARABLE.
THEY WERE DESIGNED BY ENGINEERS TO MEET TRAFFIC FLOW, SPEED, AND EYE LEVEL COMING IN SO THEY WERE DESIGNED, AND AGAIN, THE APPLICANT CAN TALK A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT THAT.
ANY QUESTIONS ON THE SIGNAGE AND THE ACTUAL BUILDINGS AND SITE PLAN BEFORE WE MOVE ON TO CITIZEN PARTICIPATION? QUESTIONS? NO, IT DOESN'T LOOK LIKE IT.
AGAIN, THIS PROJECT ACTUALLY STARTED IN 2023 WAS WHEN THE APPLICANT AND THE OWNER INITIALLY CONTACTED DEVELOPMENT SERVICES.
TALKING ABOUT THE PROJECT, AGAIN, EARLY ON, IT WAS A ZONING MAP CHANGE, AND THEY DID THEIR FIRST CITIZEN PARTICIPATION IN DECEMBER OF 2023, WHERE THEY MAILED LETTERS, THAT 1,000 FOOT RADIUS THAT YOU SEE THERE, AS WELL AS HAD A NEIGHBORHOOD MEETING.
HOWEVER, THEY DIDN'T ACTUALLY SUBMIT THE APPLICATION UNTIL LATE DECEMBER '24. TWO THINGS GOING ON.
ONE, WE WOULD WANT THEM TO REFRESH IT BECAUSE IT HAD BEEN OVER A YEAR.
BUT ALSO, AS WE RECOMMENDED A USE PERMIT, IT WAS AGAIN, APPROPRIATE TO COME BACK THROUGH AND DO CITIZEN PARTICIPATION, AGAIN, WHICH THEY DID.
THEY MAILED THE LETTERS IN MARCH, APRIL.
THEY ACTUALLY HELD A MEETING ON APRIL 3 FOR A SECOND NEIGHBORHOOD MEETING, AND AGAIN, THE APPLICANT CAN SPEAK MORE ABOUT THAT, IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THAT.
AS WE WENT INTO THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION PUBLIC HEARING, WE HAD JUST TWO COMMENTS.
THE P&Z ACTUALLY ONLY HAD TWO COMMENTS RIGHT THEN FOR WHAT THEY HAD.
WE HAD ONE ON SURVEY 123 AND ONE EMAIL, BOTH IN OPPOSITION.
SO THAT'S WHAT P&Z HAD IN THEIR PACKET AND WHAT THEY HAD RECEIVED BY THE TIME THE P&Z HEARING HAPPENED.
FOLLOWING P&Z WITHIN A FEW DAYS, I DON'T KNOW FOUR OR FIVE DAYS, FOLLOWING P&Z, WE HAD A LITTLE BIT OF AN UPTICK, AND WE HAD ACTUALLY FIVE ADDITIONAL COMMENTS COME IN ON OUR SURVEY SITE, SURVEY 123, ONE OF THEM NEUTRAL, FOUR OF THEM IN OPPOSITION.
AT THAT POINT UP UNTIL ABOUT AUGUST 16, WE HAD A GRAND TOTAL OF SEVEN COMMENTS ON THIS PROJECT AS OF AUGUST 16TH OR 17TH THERE.
AS YOU KNOW, WE'VE HAD A LITTLE UPTICK ON THAT.
IN THE LAST FEW DAYS, BEGINNING ABOUT AUGUST 17, WE'VE HAD AN UPTICK IN CORRESPONDENCE COMING IN FROM THE COMMUNITY.
ALL TOTAL DEVELOPMENT SERVICES RECEIVED THROUGH SOME OF THESE IN THE LAST FEW DAYS, THROUGH THE CLERK OF THE BOARD.
SOME OF THESE HAVE COME IN THAT WAY.
BUT ALL TOTAL IN FAVOR, OOPS, EXCUSE ME.
ALL TOTAL, WE HAVE 14 LETTERS OF SUPPORT, 13 JUST LETTERS, AND THEN ONE LETTER THAT IS ACTUALLY SIGNED BY 54 PEOPLE IN SUPPORT.
THAT IS THE SUPPORTING SIDE, NO NEUTRAL, AND THEN COMING IN IN OPPOSITION, AND THIS IS AS OF 7:00 THIS MORNING.
I KNOW STUFF IS COMING IN, AND THE CLERK CAN TELL YOU MORE ABOUT WHAT'S COMING IN, BUT I STOPPED LOOKING AT 7:00 THIS MORNING AS I DID THE FINAL UPDATES ON IT.
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AT THAT TIME, WE HAD ALL TOTAL 28 IN OPPOSITION.FIVE OF THOSE COMMENTS WERE ON SURVEY 123, 23 DIFFERENT EMAILS.
ALL TOTAL FOR THE PROJECT NOW, WE HAVE HAD A TOTAL OF 67 COMMENTS IN FAVOR, ONE NEUTRAL, AND A TOTAL OF 32 IN OPPOSITION.
THAT'S AS OF 7:00 THIS MORNING.
I'D LIKE TO ASK THIS APPLICANT HAD PUBLIC MEETINGS, ALL OF THAT PROCESS.
THEY WENT THROUGH ALL THAT. THEY HAD TWO NEIGHBORHOOD MEETINGS, AND THEN THERE WAS THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION HEARING.
WERE THERE PEOPLE AT THE PLANNING AND ZONING? WE HAD NO TESTIMONY AT PLANNING AND ZONING FROM ANYBODY AND JUST TWO WRITTEN COMMENTS.
ONE OF THEM ON CITIZEN 123, AND ONE THAT CAME IN BY LETTER IS WHAT THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION HAD AT THAT TIME.
>> I WILL MOVE TO REFER TO SUPERVISOR JENKINS.
I DO WANT TO JUST GIVE A REMINDER I DO NEED TO HAVE ORDER IN THE ROOM.
PLEASE DO NOT YELL FROM WHERE YOU ARE SITTING.
I UNDERSTAND THERE IS A LOT OF PASSION, EMOTION GOING ON.
BUT PLEASE KNOW, YOU WILL BE HEARD.
NO ONE WILL BE LEFT WITHOUT HAVING AN OPPORTUNITY TO SAY SOMETHING.
THANK YOU. I'M SORRY TO BOTHER YOU. GO AHEAD.
>> NO, I'M NOT QUITE DONE. THAT JUST CONCLUDES THE CITIZEN PARTICIPATION PORTION AND WHERE WE STAND TODAY AS OF 7:00 THIS MORNING.
>>CAN I ASK A QUESTION ON THIS?
>> WHAT WAS THE GENERAL FLAVOR OR CONSENSUS OF FAVOR AND OPPOSITION? WAS THERE A THEME TO EITHER ONE OF THOSE?
>> THERE WAS. I DID SKIM THROUGH AND READ ALL OF THE LETTERS THAT HAVE COME IN IN THE LAST FEW DAYS.
GENERALLY SPEAKING, THE OPPOSITION WAS CONCERNED FOR WATER.
CONCERNED FOR TRAFFIC IN THE AREA, AND CONCERN FOR LIGHTING, AND THEN CRIME.
WERE THE FOUR MAJOR CONCERNS THAT I SAW COMING OUT OF THE OPPOSITION TO LETTERS.
THE PROPONENTS DIDN'T ACTUALLY CALL OUT ANYTHING SPECIFIC OTHER THAN THEY REALLY WANTED TO SEE THIS DEVELOPMENT THERE.
THEY WANTED THE ADDITIONAL FUEL OPPORTUNITIES, AS WELL AS A CONVENIENCE STORE OPPORTUNITY.
>> THAT CONCLUDES THE CITIZEN PARTICIPATION.
ONE OF THE ASPECTS IS WE HAVE TO LOOK AT IS, HOW DOES THIS PROJECT CONFORM WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, AND WE'VE LOOKED AT THIS BRIEFLY.
BUT AGAIN, THE COMMERCIAL PORTION OF IT IS HERE, AND I'LL BRING IT UP HERE, AND THIS PROJECT FULLY CONFORMS WITH THE COMMERCIAL PORTION OF IT, AND YOU CAN SEE MOST OF THE PROJECT DOES MEET THE COMMERCIAL DESIGNATION OF THE COMP PLAN.
I OUTLINED THE AREA THAT IS DESIGNATED OVER HERE AS COMMERCIAL.
YOU CAN SEE THAT ON THE SITE PLAN.
THIS ASPECT OF IT, THE COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT ACTUALLY FULLY MEETS THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
IT IS THE RESIDENTIAL PORTION THAT DOES NOT, AND AGAIN, I'VE PULLED OUT THAT PARTICULAR PARCEL.
YOU CAN SEE THE MAIN ENTRANCE AND SOME PARKING IS PRIMARILY ON THIS PARTICULAR RESIDENTIAL PARCEL.
THIS IS THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, NOT THE ZONING MAP.
SO THIS PIECE, AGAIN, WOULD REQUIRE APPROVAL OF A USE PERMIT TO MOVE FORWARD.
BUT THE OTHER PIECE OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN IS ONE OF THE GOALS IS TO ENCOURAGE PUBLIC PARTICIPATION, WHICH, AGAIN, I THINK WE'VE HAD A PRETTY ROBUST OPPORTUNITY THERE, BOTH WITH THE APPLICANT DOING TWO ROUNDS OF CITIZEN PARTICIPATION.
IT BEING POSTED ON OUR WEBSITE.
THE COUNTY ITSELF SENDS OUT NOTICE TO 10,000 FOOT RADIUS AND STUFF SO THAT STANDARDLY HAPPENS.
>> BEING THAT ONE PARCEL IS PARTIALLY ACROSS THE OTHER SIDE OF THE ROAD, WOULD THAT TURN COMMERCIAL AS WELL, OR WOULD THAT REMAIN RESIDENTIAL?
>> ACTUALLY, AND THAT'S MY BAT ON THIS ONE, AND THAT'S BECAUSE IT'S EASIER TO DRAW BOX, SO I APOLOGIZE.
THIS PARCEL ACTUALLY FOLLOWS THE ROAD.
THE PARCEL ITSELF FOLLOWS THE ROAD.
THIS IS DIFFERENT PRIVATE PROPERTY AND NOT PART OF THE PROJECT AT ALL SO MY BAD ON THAT ONE.
IN SUMMARY, THE REQUEST IS CONSIDERATION OF A PERMANENT AND TRANSFERABLE USE PERMIT TO ALLOW DEVELOPMENT OF A COMMERCIAL AUTO FUEL STATION AND TRAVEL CENTER ON FOUR PARCELS COMPRISING TWO ZONING DISTRICTS, C2 AND R2 ON APPROXIMATELY 22 ACRES SUBJECT TO THE CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL.
THAT'S BASICALLY THE APPLICATION.
WE CAN START INTO THE ACTUAL CONDITIONS.
OVERALL STAFF HAS NO CONCERNS WITH THIS PARTICULAR PROJECT, OTHER THAN AFTER PLANNING AND ZONING, WE ADDED A PROPOSED SIXTH CONDITION TO THE STANDARD CONDITIONS THAT WERE IN THE INITIAL P&Z PACKET.
THIS TIME, I'M HAPPY TO RUN THROUGH THOSE CONDITIONS.
IF YOU'D LIKE, I CAN HOLD OFF UNTIL YOU HEAR SOME COMMENT.
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IT'S YOUR PLEASURE.>> I'D LIKE TO HEAR THE CONDITIONS, AND IF ANY OF THEM, PERHAPS ADDRESS SOME OF THE CITIZENS CONCERNS.
>> CONDITION NUMBER 1, THE PRETTY MUCH STANDARD PERMANENT AND TRANSFERABLE USE PERMIT TO ALLOW DEVELOPMENT OF THIS COMMERCIAL FUEL STATION AND TRAVEL CENTER ON THE FOUR PARCELS.
THIS IS THE TOTAL SQUARE FOOTAGE, BOTH FOR THE BUILDINGS AND FOR THE SIGNS THEMSELVES.
A SIGN ALLOTMENT FOR THE PROJECT TO BE DEVELOPED IN ACCORDANCE WITH THIS CHART BELOW, ILLUMINATED SIGNS TO BE LIT DUSK TO DAWN, AND ONLY DURING OPERATIONAL HOURS.
WHEN CLOSED FOR BUSINESS, ILLUMINATED SIGNS WOULD BE TURNED OFF.
CONDITION 3, CERTIFICATE OF COMPLIANCE TO BE ISSUED WITHIN THREE YEARS, AND THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS APPROVAL, CONFIRMING ALL STIPULATIONS HAVE BEEN SATISFIED.
THE USE AND OPERATING IN CONFORMANCE WITH ALL APPROVALS, ALL BUILDING PERMITS HAVE BEEN OBTAINED AND IN CONFORMANCE WITH ALL OF THE APPLICABLE COUNTY, STATE, AND FEDERAL REGULATIONS OF THE USE PERMIT WILL BECOME NULL AND VOID.
NUMBER 4, PROPERTY TO BE DEVELOPED IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE GENERAL SITE PLAN DATED MAY 12, AND THOSE ARE THE SITE PLANS THAT WE'VE JUST LOOKED AT.
THEN NUMBER FIVE, IN THE EVENT THE OWNER SUBJECT PROPERTY FILES A CLAIM UNDER ARS SECTION 12-1134, REGARDING THIS USE PERMIT, THE USE PERMIT SHALL BECOME NULL AND VOID, AND THEN THE ADDITIONAL NUMBER 6 THAT WE ADDED FOR A LANDSCAPE PLAN FOR THE PROJECT TO BE SUBMITTED CONCURRENT WITH THE BILLING PERMIT APPLICATION AND APPROVED BY DEVELOPMENT SERVICES, WHICH THE APPLICANT, AGAIN, HAS INDICATED THEY'RE HAPPY TO DO.
THOSE ARE THE CONDITIONS THAT, AGAIN, THAT PLANNING AND ZONING HAD SEEN OTHER THAN THE SIXTH ONE.
IF I UNDERSTAND YOUR PRESENTATION, YOU'RE HERE FOR THE USE PERMIT BECAUSE OF THE ONE PARCEL THAT HAS DUAL ZONING.
THAT PARCEL THAT HAS DUAL ZONING AND THEN THE THIRD PARCEL THAT IS FULLY R2.
>> THERE IT IS. IT IS THIS PARCEL THAT HAS THE DUAL ZONING WHERE IT FLOWS OVER FROM THE C2 ONTO THE R2, AND THEN THIS PARCEL HERE, WHICH IS THIS PARCEL HERE. DOES THAT HELP YOU, MA'AM?
>> IT DOES. THE ONE THAT'S FULLY RESIDENTIAL, DESCRIBE AGAIN WHAT THE PROPOSAL IS TO DEVELOP THAT PIECE.
>> THIS PIECE HERE, THERE WOULD BE SOME DEVELOPMENT UP HERE AND IF WE MOVE OVER HERE TO THE SITE PLAN, IT'S THE DEVELOPMENT HERE.
THIS WOULD BE THE ENTRANCE ROAD COMING IN, AND THEN THIS PARKING AREA DOWN HERE.
>> THAT ALSO IS THE PIECE THAT'S CLOSEST TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD?
>> IT IS. THE NEIGHBORHOOD RIGHT NOW, AND IF YOU'D LIKE, I CAN SCROLL BACK AND FIND WHERE THE DEVELOPMENT IS.
DO YOU WANT ONE OF THE AERIAL PHOTOS? HERE'S ONE OF THE AERIAL PHOTOS AGAIN, WHIPS. COLDWATER ROAD.
THIS IS THE PARCEL HERE THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, AND THE DEVELOPMENT WOULD BE UP HERE, THAT ROAD COMING IN SOMEWHERE RIGHT AROUND IN THERE, AND THEN SOME PARKING UP HERE.
AGAIN, THIS IS CURRENTLY VACANT PRIVATE LAND THAT IS ZONED R1.
HERE IS SOME DEVELOPMENT DOWN HERE.
THIS WHOLE AREA DOWN HERE IS R1, BUT THERE IS SOME DEVELOPMENT DOWN HERE.
>> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS IN REGARDS? NO?
>> WHY DID THEY HAVE TO COME SO FAR DOWN COLD WATER AND HOOK INTO IT FROM THAT SIDE FACING THE RESIDENTIAL INSTEAD OF JUST MAKING THAT RIGHT HAND TURN LIKE GOING ON THE CALEN STREET AND HOOKING RIGHT INTO THERE.
>> I WILL LET THE APPLICANT ADDRESS THAT.
IT WAS IN CONJUNCTION WITH COORDINATION WITH A DOT AND COUNTY.
>> THIS AIN'T TRUCKS. THIS IS JUST CARS.
>> THAT'S TRUE, BUT WE ALSO RECOGNIZED IT'S LIKELY TRUCKS WILL COME OFF, AND THEY'RE PLANNING FOR THAT.
BUT IT IS NOT A TRUCK STOP FOR FUEL STATIONS.
>> BECAUSE WHAT THAT WOULD DO, IT WOULD ALLOW PROPER SCREENING TO GO ACROSS THAT PART OF THE PROPERTY, BECAUSE YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE A LOT OF CARS AND LIGHTS AT NIGHT, ESPECIALLY, ARE GOING TO JUST KEEP GETTING SHOT RIGHT INTO THAT NEIGHBORHOOD ACROSS THE STREET.
THERE MAY BE NO DEVELOPMENT THERE, BUT I MEAN, HOLY SMOKES THAT USED TO BE EMPTY TO BELL ROAD.
I JUST WOULD THINK YOU COULD HAVE A BETTER SHOT AT SCREENING AND MITIGATING SOME ISSUES.
I SAID, I'M DEALING WITH THIS IN ASHPORT RIGHT NOW.
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>> PART OF THE ZONING ORDINANCE, AND THIS WOULD BE BROUGHT IN AS PART OF THE DEVELOPMENT PERMITS WHEN THE APPLICATIONS IF THIS WERE BEING APPROVED AND THEY SUBMITTED BUILDING PERMITS, ANY PART OF THE PROJECT THAT BORDERS RESIDENTIAL WOULD BE REQUIRED TO HAVE EIGHT FOOT SCREENING.
IT CAN'T BE SOMETHING FLIMSY. IT WOULD NEED TO BE SOMETHING SUBSTANTIAL.
>> IF IT HAS TO BE SOMETHING SUBSTANTIAL, THEN WHY DID WE ALLOW A PLASTIC FENCE SOMEWHERE ELSE?
>> I CANNOT ANSWER THAT QUESTION.
>> SUPERVISOR JENKINS, DO YOU WANT TO.
>> IF THERE'S NO MORE QUESTIONS, I'D LIKE TO HEAR FROM THE APPLICANT.
>> THEN CHAIR, WE COULD GO TO PUBLIC COMMENTS AFTER THAT, IS THAT CUSTOMARY?
>> YES. THAT'S PERFECTLY FINE.
>> CHAIR MALLORY AND BOARD MEMBERS.
MY NAME IS JOHN REDELL ARCHITECTS, 4992 SOUTH 158TH STREET GILBERT, ARIZONA.
>> COULD YOU GET THAT MICROPHONE? IS IT ON? MAYBE JUST YEAH, GET IT RIGHT.
IT JUST WON'T COME ACROSS ON THE AUDIO. THANK YOU.
>> I'M A LITTLE SHORT, TOO. THANK YOU.
WE STARTED THIS PROJECT, AS THEY MENTIONED, IN 2023, AND WE HAD A PRE APP MEETING WITH THE COUNTY.
WE CAME BACK. WE PUT TOGETHER A NEIGHBORHOOD MEETING THAT WE HAD AT SHLEEN'S AND AT THE SAME TIME, THEY SUGGESTED THAT WE START WORKING WITH TRANSPORTATION.
WE TALKED TO YAVAPAI TRANSPORTATION AND STARTED WORKING WITH NOT MCDOT, BUT A DOT.
WE WORKED JUST ABOUT A YEAR WITH A DOT GOING BACK AND FORTH AND THE COUNTY.
THE ENTRANCE THAT IS SUGGESTED TODAY WAS A LOCATION THAT WAS REQUIRED MORE OR LESS FROM A DOT.
A DOT WAS NOT ALLOWING US TO USE THE HISTORICAL ENTRANCE TO SHLEEN.
THEY DID NOT WANT ANY TRAFFIC BACKED UP AT THAT POINT.
THEY SUGGESTED GOING FURTHER DOWN.
THAT LITTLE TRIANGULAR SECTION TO THE NORTH OF OUR SITE WHERE THE HISTORICAL DRIVE GOES THROUGH TO SHLEEN IS PART OF THE NATIONAL MONUMENT.
THAT SMALL TRIANGULAR SECTION.
>> YES, THAT PIECE RIGHT THERE.
WITH YAVAPAI COUNTY TRANSPORTATION, THEY WANTED A RIGHT DENSIL TURN LANE INTO THE SITE.
WE COULD NOT START THAT UNTIL WE ENTERED OUR PROPERTY RIGHT AT THAT POINT OF THAT TRIANGULAR, AND WE HAD TO GO 160 SHOWING THE TAPER AND THE STACKING TO TURN INTO THE SITE.
THAT'S WHY THAT LOCATION OF THE DRIVE IS WHERE IT'S AT.
IT WAS ALL DICTATED BY TRANSPORTATION AND A DOT TO BE WHERE IT'S AT RIGHT TODAY.
>> I'M SO SORRY. COULD I JUST STOP YOU FOR A SECOND? I JUST NEED SOME CLARIFICATION HERE.
WHEN YOU REFER TO YAVAPAI COUNTY TRANSPORTATION, ARE WE JUST TALKING ABOUT OUR PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT? I JUST WANT TO MAKE THAT ON RECORD CLEAR, BECAUSE WE ACTUALLY DON'T HAVE A TRANSPORTATION DEPARTMENT, BUT WE DO HAVE PUBLIC WORKS, WHICH IS THE COUNTY AND THEN YOU WOULD HAVE DEALT WITH THE STATE, WHICH IS A DOT.
>> YES, IT WAS THE PUBLIC WORKS. I'M SORRY.
>> NO, IT'S FINE. JUST CLARIFICATION AS WE GO FORWARD AND SOME PEOPLE KNOW IT LIKE THIS.
>> THAT'S WHAT WE WORKED ON FOR JUST ABOUT A YEAR WITH A DOT AND ESTABLISHING THAT ENTRANCE INTO THE SITE BECAUSE THAT HISTORICAL CANNOT BE USED.
IT IS A HISTORICAL AND IT IS ACCESS TO SHLEEN'S AND THERE IS A 40 FOOT ACCESS EASEMENT ALONG THE WEST SIDE OF THIS PROPERTY DOWN TO SHLEEN'S RESTAURANT.
THROUGH OUR FIRST NEIGHBORHOOD MEETING, THERE WAS QUITE A FEW.
THERE WAS A COUPLE DIFFERENT PROJECTS THERE THAT WAS GOING THROUGH A DISCUSSION OF APARTMENT COMPLEX AND OURS AND FROM THAT, WE FOUND THAT THERE WAS THE ITEMS THAT ARE STILL POPPING UP TODAY.
FIRST WAS THE TRUCK STOP, AND WE SAID, IT IS ABSOLUTELY NOT A TRUCK STOP.
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USER, PEOPLE THAT TRAVEL BACK AND FORTH UP I17.THE ONLY TRUCKS THAT WE ARE PLANNING TO HAVE IS A DELIVERY TRUCK WITH SHORT BOB TAILED DELIVERY TRUCKS AND A FUEL TRUCK THAT HAS TO COME IN.
WE DID MAKE THAT AREA ALL ACCEPTABLE FOR THE BIG TRUCK TO MAKE THE TURNING RADIUSES PER CHEVRON'S REQUIREMENTS, WHICH IS EVEN A LITTLE GREATER THAN THE COUNTY'S REQUIREMENTS.
WE HAVE ALL THAT TO ACCESS THE SITE WITH THE TRUCK FUEL.
THE OTHER ITEM THAT CAME UP WAS LIGHTING.
WE HAVE STATED THAT WE ARE GOING TO SHIELD ALL THE LIGHTING PER COUNTY REQUIREMENTS, AND THAT WE ARE ALSO SHUTTING THE LIGHTS OFF AFTER CLOSING TIME, EXCEPT FOR ALL THE SECURITY LIGHTS THAT WE DO NEED TO MAINTAIN ON SITE.
WE HAVE ADDRESSED THOSE LIGHTS FROM THAT ASPECT.
SECURITY WAS ANOTHER ITEM BECAUSE I GUESS THEY MIGHT HAVE SOME PEOPLE THAT ARE OVERNIGHTERS OR SOMETHING THAT WE DON'T WANT OVERNIGHTERS THERE EITHER SO WE HAD PROVIDED A SECURITY TO BE THERE FOR ALL THE HOURS OF OPERATION NOT OPEN, AND EVEN DURING OPERATION, BUT WE HAVE A SMALL SECURITY IF I CAN MAKE THIS WORK.
WE LOCATED AT THAT POSITION BECAUSE THERE'S ALSO THE ACCESS FROM SHLEEN'S RIGHT THERE, AND IT'S ALSO AT A POINT THAT CAN VISUALLY BE SEEN.
WE WILL HAVE CLOSED CIRCUIT TVS ALL AROUND, WHICH WILL COME BACK TO THE SECURITY SHACK. I CALL IT A SHACK.
IT'S A ACTUAL LITTLE BUILDING WITH A SMALL RESTROOM AND A PLACE FOR ALL THE TV MONITORING FOR THE SECURITY CAMERAS.
WE'VE ADDRESSED THE SECURITY AFTER HOURS WITH THAT USE.
THEY ARE VERY CONCERNED ABOUT THEIR GROUNDWATER WITH THE TANKS.
THAT WAS ONE THING THAT CAME UP.
OUR TANKS ARE LOCATED RIGHT HERE.
I CALL THAT THE TANK FIELD YARD.
AS WE LEVEL OUT ACROSS WHERE THE CANOPIES ARE, THAT STARTS DROPPING DOWN TOWARDS COLD WATER THERE SO WHAT WE'RE DOING, WE'RE LOWERING IT ONE LEVEL, ABOUT EIGHT FEET.
WE'RE BUILDING A WALL AROUND THE TANK YARD, BUT WE'RE USING ABOVE GROUND TANK SYSTEM.
WE DON'T HAVE TO DIG INTO THE GROUND, AND IT'S A MUCH SAFER, BUT ALSO A SYSTEM THAT WE CAN UTILIZE AND KEEP AN EYE ON FOR ANY ISSUE WITH POSSIBLE LEAKAGE OR ANYTHING, WHICH WE DON'T HAVE ON OR OTHER FACILITIES, BUT JUST IN CASE.
THE TANKS ARE SCREENED BY A WALL, AND IT'S ALSO ABOVE GRADE, SO WE DON'T HAVE ANY OF THAT PROBLEM WITH POSSIBLE SEEPAGE.
THAT CAME UP BECAUSE I BELIEVE THAT THERE WAS CONCERN THAT IT PUT TOO MUCH DEMAND ON THE SYSTEM, THE PRIVATE SYSTEM THAT'S THERE.
THEY SAID THAT THERE WAS AMPLE FOR IT, BUT WE'RE ALSO RIGHT NOW INVESTIGATING A WELL AND UTILIZING WELL.
WE WON'T GET THE GALLONS PER MINUTE THAT WE NEED TO DO OUR FIRE SUPPRESSION SO WE WILL HAVE TO PROVIDE A STORAGE TANK FOR OUR FIRE SUPPRESSION.
THAT STORAGE TANK IS RIGHT HERE.
ALL OUR OTHER INTERIOR USES ARE GOING TO BE WATER FREE, IF POSSIBLE, OR LOW WATER USE.
OUR LANDSCAPE, THEY DO WANT US TO DEVELOP A LITTLE MORE LUSH LANDSCAPE, AND WE WILL BE USING A DESERT LUSH, BUT A VERY DROUGHT TOLERANT TYPE OF PLANT MATERIAL TO DEVELOP THERE.
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WE HAVE LOOKED AT THE PARKING OUT HERE.THAT IS JUST A ADDITIONAL PARKING THAT WE SAW I TRAVELED THE ROAD EVERY THURSDAY OR FRIDAY GOING NORTH AND GOING SOUTH ON SUNDAYS.
I'VE BEEN CAUGHT AT BLACK CANYON CITY WITH ACCIDENTS.
THERE'S NOWHERE TO PULL IN SO WE THOUGHT THIS WOULD BE A GOOD AREA TO AT LEAST PROVIDE SOME EXCESS PARKING.
IT'LL BE EMPLOYEE PARKING, BUT ALSO ANY EXCESS PARKING THAT MIGHT HAPPEN ON OCCASION THAT MIGHT ARISE FROM A ACCIDENT OR SOMETHING NORTH OF SUNSET POINT.
IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT WE HAVE TO HAVE IN THAT R2.
WE WERE JUST PROVIDING IT FOR A SERVICE AND THAT'S JUST ONE THING.
THE ACCESS COMING ACROSS THE R2, WE REALLY HAD NO CHOICE.
IT'S A NECESSITY FOR THAT PROPERTY TO BE ACCESSED PER A DOT AND COUNTY PUBLIC WORKS.
BUT THEN WE CAME BACK AND THEY ASKED US TO DO A USE PERMIT SO WE HAD A SECOND PUBLIC HEARING, A NEIGHBORHOOD MEETING, I SHOULD SAY.
WE HAD THE SECOND NEIGHBORHOOD MEETING AND, THIS YEAR, AND WE HAD A LOT OF VERY POSITIVE RESPONSES.
THERE WAS ONE NEGATIVE, STILL WORRIED ABOUT SOME TRAFFIC BUT THEY SAW THAT WE HAD ADDRESSED THOSE ITEMS THAT THEY WERE VERY CONCERNED WITH BEFORE.
WE WALKED OUT OF THAT MEETING VERY COMFORTABLE WITH A WAY WE HAD ADDRESSED ITEMS. THAT GIVES US THE HISTORY OF THE PROCESS THAT WE'VE GONE THROUGH AND EVERYTHING.
IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, BE GLAD TO ANSWER THEM.
>> I WANT TO FOLLOW UP ON THE SIGNS AND THE CONCERN FROM THE RESIDENTS ABOUT 18 WHEELERS PULLING IN THERE BECAUSE THEY SEE THE WORDS TRAVEL CENTER.
COULD YOU TALK ABOUT HOW YOU'RE GOING TO ADDRESS THAT?
>> WE HAD THE SAME QUESTION FROM THE COMMISSION.
THEY HAD VERY SIMILAR CONCERNS.
ALL WE CAN DO IS ADDRESS ON SIGNAGE.
THAT'D BE ON PART OF OUR MONUMENT SIGN AS NOTE IT AS, PRIVATE VEHICLES ONLY, NO COMMERCIAL TRUCKS.
YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE SOMEBODY PULL IN THERE ANYWAY.
YOU CAN'T SAY NO, BUT WE DID MAKE, THE ABILITY FOR IF A BIG TRUCK PULLED IN, IT CAN PULL AROUND AND OUT VERY EASILY BECAUSE WE HAD TO DESIGN THAT FOR OUR FUEL DROP TRUCKS.
THEY CAN GET IN AND OUT, BUT WE'RE NOT PROVIDING LARGE PARKING SPACES FOR THEM.
WE'RE NOT ADVERTISING FUEL FOR THEM.
IT'S JUST GOING TO BE THE PRIVATE VEHICLE.
WE CAN ONLY DO IT BY SIGNAGE RIGHT NOW.
>> IF THE BOARD HAS ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, I WOULD LIKE TO ASK THE COMMISSIONER A FEW QUESTIONS BEFORE WE GO TO PUBLIC COMMENT UNLESS ANYONE HAS ANYTHING FOR MR DELL.
>> I HAVE A QUESTION. FIRST, I'D LIKE TO ASSIST CHAIR, IS THAT RIGHT? I FIRST THANK SUPERVISOR FOR HIS QUESTIONS.
THEN ALSO, IN REFERENCE TO THE WATER STORAGE FOR YOUR FIRE SUPPRESSION, WHAT SIZE IS THE STORAGE?
>> THAT ACTUAL SIZE HASN'T BEEN DESIGNED YET.
WE HAVE A SPRINKLER COMPLETE FIRE ON STAFF OR NOT ON STAFF, BUT ON RETAINER TO START DESIGNING THE FIRE SPRINKLER SYSTEM.
WE HAVE NOT GONE INTO THE CONSTRUCTION DOCUMENTS OF THAT YET.
>> JUST ON WATER USE. NO SHOWERS.
>> FLUSHING TOILETS AND WATERLESS URINALS.
I'M SURPRISED COMPTON DIDN'T ASK THIS, BUT HOW FAR AWAY IS FIRE AND EMS IF THEY NEEDED TO RESPOND TO THIS AREA?
THERE IS A FIRE STATION IN BLACK CANYON CITY.
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>> IS THAT FULL TIME OR VOLUNTEER?
>> THEN ARE THE HOURS GOING TO BE PART OF THIS AGREEMENT? THEY COULDN'T GET THIS DONE, GET IT BUILT AND THEN ALL OF A SUDDEN, SAY I THINK WE'RE GOING TO GO 24 HOURS.
>> THEY ARE CURRENTLY NOT PART OF THE CONDITIONS, BUT IT COULD CERTAINLY BE ADDED.
>> I DON'T KNOW HOW SUPERVISOR JENKINS WOULD FEEL ABOUT THAT.
ON THIS PLAN, WE'VE JUST HEARD THAT THERE HAS TO BE SUBSTANTIAL EIGHT FOOT SCREENING.
WHERE WOULD THAT BE ON THIS MAP? BECAUSE IT'S NOT GOING TO BE ACROSS YOUR DRIVEWAY?
>> NO. THAT DRIVEWAY HAS TO REMAIN OPEN, BUT IT HAVE TO BE ALONG COLDWATER BOULEVARD.
>> THAT WAS MY QUESTION, REFERENCE TO THE WATER STORAGE THAT WOULD ANSWER MY QUESTION IN REFERENCE TO HOW FAR AWAY FIRE IS, AND I APPRECIATE SUPERVISOR KOKO BRINGING THAT UP, BUT THAT'S WHERE I WAS GOING WITH THAT.
WHAT'S HAPPENING WITH FIRE? I DON'T HAVE AN ANSWER.
>> IF I MAY, IF THIS WERE TO BE GRANTED, AND THEY WERE TO SUBMIT FOR BUILDING PERMITS, FIRE WOULD BE A REQUIRED PIECE OF THE REVIEW.
THAT IS PART OF THE DESIGN IS THAT THEY WOULD SPECIFY EXACTLY HOW LARGE THAT TANK NEEDS TO BE.
THAT WOULD BE PART OF THE REVIEWING AS PART OF THE BUILDING PERMITS IF THIS WERE TO BE GRANTED.
>> I UNDERSTAND, BUT GENERALLY, HE WOULD HAVE A BALLPARK FIGURE SOMETIMES IN TERMS OF WATER STORAGE.
I JUST WANTED A BALLPARK FIGURE.
>> I HEAR ABOUT THE FIRE, SO I STILL HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF RESERVATION IN REGARDS TO HOW THAT IS.
I AM FAMILIAR WITH THAT FIRE DISTRICT.
THE TRUCKS, I UNDERSTAND YOU'RE ONLY GOING TO BE HAVING THOSE SET HOURS, AND YOU OF COURSE, CAN'T CONTROL IF THEY SHOW UP, BUT IT SOUNDS LIKE TO ME YOU'LL DO THE BEST YOU CAN.
THE TRUCKS, WE KNOW TRUCKS WILL COME, FOR SURE.
ANYWAY, WITH THAT BEING SAID, WE COULD GO TO PUBLIC COMMENT IF YOU'D LIKE.
>> I HEAR FROM THE COMMISSIONER FIRST, WHAT CONCERNS OR OPPOSITION THAT THEY HEARD? I'M SO SORRY. SUPERVISOR JENKINS.
I THINK DID YOU HAVE A QUESTION FOR THAT GENTLEMAN?
>> NO, I'D LIKE TO HEAR FROM RENNIE AS WELL, AND IF I COULD PETITION FOR A BATHROOM BREAK BEFORE.
>> I WAS GOING TO GO THERE BEFORE WE GO TO PUBLIC COMMENT.
>> YOU WANT TO HEAR FROM ME RIGHT NOW?
>> YEAH, WE MIGHT AS WELL HEAR FROM YOU, AND THEN WE'RE GOING TO GO A BREAK.
>> WITH YOU, THOUGH. RENNIE RHODOCO PLANNING COMMISSION MEMBER.
THERE'S A LOT OF COMPONENTS TO THIS PROJECT.
I, IN PARTICULAR, HAD A NUMBER OF ISSUES WITH IT.
MORE SO THAN MAYBE SOME OF THE OTHER COMMISSIONERS.
THE ABILITY TO EXCLUDE TRUCKS, I SEE THAT IT'S JUST PART OF THE PROJECT, AND THE FACT THAT THEY CAN ONLY DO IT WITH SIGNAGE.
I COULDN'T SEE ANOTHER WAY AROUND IT PERSONALLY AS WE WERE DISCUSSING IT.
THE WATER USAGE, I THINK THEY'VE ANSWERED WELL ENOUGH, AND I AS AN ARCHITECT KNOW THAT THE STORAGE TANK IS NOT GOING TO NECESSARILY BE DETERMINED UNTIL THEY HAVE MORE INFORMATION, AND THEN THE FIRE MARSHAL WILL DETERMINE THAT.
I FEEL CONFIDENT THAT THAT FIRE SUPPRESSION WILL BE ADDRESSED CONFIDENTLY.
THE ENTRANCE, THERE WAS A LOT OF DISCUSSION ABOUT THAT.
BUT ONCE YOU REALIZE THAT ADOT MANDATED THAT 160 FOOT, THE TURN LANE.
THERE WAS NO OTHER PLACE FOR THEM TO PLACE IT ON THE SITE.
THEN THERE WAS DISCUSSION ABOUT WELL, PEOPLE ARE GOING TO TURN OFF TO THE NATIONAL MONUMENT, AND WILL THERE BE TRAFFIC.
IT WAS A COMPLICATED DECISION, 'CAUSE THERE'S SO MANY DIFFERENT ASPECTS TO IT.
HAVING A SECURITY BUILDING ON SITE, I THOUGHT WAS A REAL POSITIVE FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD AS WELL AS THE PROJECT AND SO DID THE COMMISSION.
WE ADDED THAT LANDSCAPING ISSUE CAME UP AND THAT WAS ADDED.
I THINK THE IDEA OF THE HOURS OF OPERATION THE COMMISSION DIDN'T GO FAR ENOUGH NOW THAT I'M HEARING IT TO MAYBE ADD SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
BUT IT WAS A UNANIMOUS DECISION ON OUR PART AFTER A LOT OF DISCUSSION.
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THE SIGNAGE, BEFORE I STOP, WAS REALLY A PROBLEM, ESPECIALLY IN MY MIND, BECAUSE WE HAD UP IN ASHFK.I THINK ONE OF THE SIGNS THERE, TRAVEL AMERICA, I THINK IS 120 FEET.
YOU CAN SEE IT FOR 8 MILES, COMING DOWN I 17 AT THE LOVE STATION.
HONESTLY, YOU COULD SEE IT AT THE DUGAS ROAD NORTH, YOU CAN SEE IT FOR A LONG WAY.
BUT THOSE ARE TRUCK STOPS ALSO.
THIS IS A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT ANIMAL.
THE 40 FOOT, I WOULD HAVE LIKED TO SEE IT 25 FEET, BUT IT'S NOT ACCEPTABLE FROM A DOT STANDPOINT.
THERE WAS A LOT OF DISCUSSION ABOUT THAT AND THE AMOUNT OF SIGNAGE FOR THE SIZE OF THE PROJECT, WE COULD RATIONALIZE THAT IT WAS NEEDED, AND MOST OF THE A LOT OF THE SIGNAGE IS ON THE BUILDINGS.
I THINK THAT'S MORE OR LESS A GENERAL SUMMARY.
>> MAY I SAY A FEW THINGS? I APPRECIATE THAT WE'VE REALLY FOCUSED THIS CONVERSATION TOWARDS SOME GREAT DETAILS, AND IT SOUNDS LIKE THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF ENGAGEMENT ON SOME REAL SPECIFICS, BUT I'D LIKE TO SPEAK TO THE GREATER CONTEXT OF HAVING A GAS STATION HERE.
I REALLY SEE THAT STRATEGICALLY, IT MAKES A LOT OF SENSE.
I PERSONALLY HAVE WANTED A GAS STATION PRIOR TO CLIMBING THAT VERY STEEP HILL ON I 17, AND BEING THE CHAIR OF THE TRANSPORTATION ORGANIZATION IN THE VERDE VALLEY HERE, GETTING HRF DOLLARS FROM THE GAS TAX, THAT'S STRATEGICALLY A WONDERFUL PLACE TO COLLECT THE HIGH DENSITY OF COMMUTERS THAT YOU HAVE ON I 17 FROM MARICOPA COUNTY AND ALSO YAVAPAI COUNTY RESIDENTS AND HAVE THOSE GAS TAX DOLLARS GO TOWARDS PROJECTS IN YAVAPAI COUNTY.
I REALLY DO WANT TO SEE THIS PROJECT MOVE FORWARD, ALTHOUGH I CERTAINLY AM LOOKING FORWARD TO HEARING PUBLIC COMMENT AND UNDERSTANDING IF THERE'S PLACES WHERE COMMUNITY CONCERNS CAN BE ADDRESSED FURTHER.
BUT IN THE CONTEXT OF THINGS, I THINK, STRATEGICALLY, THIS MAKES A LOT OF SENSE.
IF THE COUNTY DIDN'T UNDERSTAND ADOTS REQUIREMENTS AS FAR AS WHERE THE ENTRANCE NEEDS TO BE IN OUR COMPREHENSIVE PLANNING, THAT REALLY FALLS MORE ON US, AS FAR AS THAT PROJECTED COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, SO THANK YOU FOR LISTENING.
>> JUST ONE OTHER THING, I'M JUST HEARING THIS MORNING THE OPPOSITION AND SO FORTH.
WE DIDN'T HAVE THAT INFORMATION AT AT THE COMMISSIONER'S MEETING.
>> LET ME CLARIFY. IT'S NOT THAT YOU DIDN'T HAVE THE INFORMATION.
APPARENTLY, A LOT OF LETTERS OR COMMENTS HAVE COME IN AFTER IT.
>> THERE WAS NOT THAT OPPOSITION DURING YOUR HEARING?
>> ARE YOU OKAY, SUPERVISOR JENKINS, WE TAKE A BREAK? WE'RE GOING TO TAKE A BREAK.
IT IS A LITTLE BEFORE TEN TO 11. THANK YOU.
>> WE ARE BACK IN SESSION HERE.
APPRECIATE EVERYONE'S PATIENCE ON THIS.
WE ARE STILL IN THE PROCESS OF OUR HEARING.
WE WILL BE MOVING ON NOW TO PUBLIC COMMENT.
I WILL REACH OUT TO THE CLERK OF THE BOARD IN REGARDS TO PUBLIC COMMENT FROM YOU, PLEASE.
>> ABSOLUTELY. I DID WANT TO INDICATE THAT THE BOARD RECEIVED A COPY OF A NUMBER OF PAGES THIS MORNING THAT INDICATE THERE ARE 711 SIGNATURES.
THEY WERE RECEIVED AFTER THE DEADLINE AND ARE NOT INCLUDED IN THE CURRENT TALLY.
THEY WILL BE MADE PART OF THE OVERALL RECORD.
IN ADDITION TO THAT, THE BOARD RECEIVED 14 LETTERS IN FAVOR, AS WELL AS A PETITION THAT CONTAINED 55 SIGNATURES IN FAVOR.
THE BOARD ALSO RECEIVED 30 LETTERS IN OPPOSITION AND ONE PETITION THAT CONTAINED 685 SIGNATURES.
>> I JUST WOULD LIKE TO ASK, MAYBE CAN REACH OUT TO DEVELOPMENT SERVICES.
WE ALWAYS DO A RADIUS AROUND THESE AREAS WHEN WE ARE DEALING WITH THIS.
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HOW MANY THIS POPULATION ARE WE JUST TO KNOW WHO'S IN THAT RADIUS AND WHO IS NOT.>> THAT IS 100 FOOT RADIUS THAT IS REQUIRED BY LAW.
THE APPLICANT SENT THEIR TWO SETS OF LETTERS FIRST IN DECEMBER OF 2023, AND THEN AGAIN AT THE BEGINNING OF THIS YEAR.
ANYBODY THAT OWNS PROPERTY IN THAT RADIUS RECEIVED A LETTER.
AT LEAST TWO LETTERS NOW FROM THE APPLICANT, AND THEN ONE LETTER FROM DEVELOPMENT SERVICES.
>> THANK YOU. CLERK OF THE BOARD, WE'RE GOOD TO GO WITH YOUR INFORMATION.
WE'RE GOING TO MOVE FORWARD TO THE VICE CHAIR WHO DOES HAVE ALL THE GREEN SHEETS FOR THIS.
DONNA SHALIN, IF YOU PLEASE COME UP.
WE HAVE A THREE MINUTE TIME ON THIS, AND WE DO HAVE A TIMER THAT IS SET.
WE GET GREEN, WE GET YELLOW, AND THEN WE GET RED, SO WE HAVE TO STOP ON RED.
>> WELL, I WAS TOLD SHE WAS, BUT IF NOT, THAT'S OKAY.
ALEAH. GO. COME ON. YES. FEEL FREE.
>> MY NAME IS ALEAH SHEEN. MY FAMILY HAS OWNED AND OPERATED SHEEN'S ON 17 SINCE I WAS 10-YEARS-OLD.
SAME AGE AS THIS LITTLE GIRL RIGHT HERE NOW.
I'VE GROWN UP IN BLACK CANYON CITY.
I WENT TO CANON ELEMENTARY SCHOOL.
I KNOW THIS COMMUNITY, AND I KNOW I COMPLETELY AGREE.
BUT WE NEED GROWTH THAT MAKES SENSE FOR OUR COMMUNITY THAT'S GOING TO CREATE JOBS, NOT JUST FOR A GAS STATION, FOR OTHER THINGS TOO.
I BELIEVE THERE'S SO MUCH AGRO TOURISM THAT WE COULD DO IN BLACK CANYON CITY THAT'S GOING TO BRING REAL PEOPLE VISITING BLACK CANYON, NOT JUST TRANSIENT PEOPLE OFF THE FREEWAY.
I DO THINK THAT EVERYTHING THAT THEY HAVE TO DO TO GET THIS PROJECT APPROVED IS BECAUSE IT ISN'T SUPPOSED TO BE A COMMERCIAL PROPERTY.
THIS IS OURS TOO. IT SHOULD BE RESIDENTIAL THROUGH THERE.
I JUST DON'T BELIEVE THAT MAKING THIS GIANT GAS STATION, TRUCK STOP TRAVEL CENTER, WHATEVER IT'S CALLED THIS WEEK, I JUST DON'T SEE HOW THIS IS WHAT'S BEST FOR BLACK CANYON CITY IN THIS EXACT MOMENT.
I DO BELIEVE WE NEED GROWTH, AND I THINK THAT THIS WOULD HELP MY BUSINESS. ARE YOU KIDDING ME? I'D HAVE SO MANY MORE PEOPLE OFF THE FREEWAY.
IF THIS WAS JUST ABOUT ME MAKING MONEY, THEN YEAH, GO FOR IT.
LET'S BUILD AS MANY THINGS AS WE CAN, AS MANY LIGHTS AS WE CAN.
LET'S GET THEM OFF THE FREEWAY. THAT'S NOT WHAT I WANT HERE.
WE DON'T NEED GROWTH AT ANY COST.
WE NEED GROWTH THAT RESPECTS OUR COMMUNITY, PROTECTS OUR SAFETY, AND BUILDS REAL OPPORTUNITY FOR FAMILIES.
WE ALSO HAVE LOCAL BUSINESSES THAT ARE GOING TO BE DETRIMENTAL TO THIS IS NOT GOING TO SAVE THEM.
THE SPOTS GONNA END UP HAVING TO CLOSE.
DUKE'S JUST GOT NEW OWNERS, AND THEY ARE AWESOME.
THIS MARKET, THEY ARE TAKING IT TO THE NEXT LEVEL.
OPENING UP A TRAVEL CENTER LIKE THIS, THEY'RE NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO SURVIVE. THERE'S NOTHING THEY CAN DO.
THERE'S SO MANY REASONS WHY THIS PROJECT ISN'T RIGHT.
I WILL TELL YOU GUYS, THE MEETING DATES CHANGED ALL THE TIME.
THE LETTER CAME OUT. THEN IT WAS DIFFERENT, THEN IT WAS DIFFERENT, THEN IT WAS DIFFERENT.
THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF HUSH HUSH ON THIS PROJECT, AND IT'S BEEN VERY CONCERNING TO ALL THE RESIDENTS, 'CAUSE WE NEVER KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON.
I DIDN'T FIND OUT ABOUT THIS MEETING TILL FRIDAY.
BUT I URGE YOU LISTEN TO ALL THE OTHER PEOPLE THAT ARE GOING TO TALK AFTER ME.
THEY HAVE A LOT OF REASONS WHY THIS ISN'T WHAT WE WANT, AND THIS IS NOT WHAT BLACK CANYON CITY NEEDS.
WE DESERVE BETTER THAN THIS, AND I REALLY HOPE YOU GUYS LISTEN TO EVERYBODY. THANK YOU SO MUCH.
>> THANK YOU. DONNA. PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
>> THANK YOU, EVERYONE. I'M DONNA SHALIN.
I AM FOR THE COMMUNITY OF BLACK CANYON CITY.
I HAVE BEEN A RESIDENT AND ALSO OWNED THE RESTAURANT SINCE 2002 OPENED IN 2003.
ONE OF THE BIG THINGS IS ALREADY, WE HAVE DEAD COWS ON THE ROAD BECAUSE WE'RE IN OPEN RANGE.
THIS AMOUNT OF TRAFFIC, I HAVE CALLED JAMES GREGORY IN THE PAST.
WHEN THE FREEWAY COMES TO A COMPLETE STOP, THERE'S AN ACCIDENT, AND I'M THERE EVERY DAY.
IT'S NOT JUST SATURDAYS AND SUNDAYS.
WEDNESDAYS. THERE'S ACCIDENTS EVERY DAY, AND PEOPLE SPEED THROUGH OUR TOWN.
IT'S OPEN RANGE. THERE'S COWS ALL OVER.
THERE ARE COWS THAT COME UP AND JUST HANG OUT ON THE TOP OF THE PROPERTY.
THERE IS A LOT OF ISSUES WITH OPEN RANGE.
THEN THIS MASS AMOUNT OF TRAFFIC, I CAN FORESEE WE ALREADY HAVE A LOT OF DEAD COWS.
WE HAVE A GAS STATION THAT JUST SOLD AND THAT IS OPENING UP RIGHT IN TOWN.
WE HAVE LOCAL BUSINESSES IN TOWN.
WE HAVE ANOTHER GAS STATION AT THE OTHER EXIT.
IT'S NOT LIKE WE HAVE A LACK OF GAS STATIONS.
I'D LOVE TO HAVE A GAS STATION THERE, A SMALLER SIZE.
WITHOUT REZONING THAT SO THAT ALL OF MY NEIGHBORS DON'T HAVE A GAS STATION RIGHT ON THEM.
I THINK THE RESIDENTIAL SHOULD STAY RESIDENTIAL, AND I JUST DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY YOU CAN'T BUILD WITHIN THE CONFINEMENT OF WHAT IS ALREADY COMMERCIAL.
I'D LOVE TO SEE A SMALLER SCALE GAS STATION RIGHT THERE. I'M ALL FOR IT.
I'VE BEEN SO EXCITED. THE LAST PROJECT WAS GOING TO BE THAT. WE WERE ON BOARD.
THIS ONE JUST GREW TO A TRAVEL CENTER, WHICH I THINK WILL HAVE MORE PEOPLE COMING THAT IS TRANSITS AND MAYBE ENCOURAGE HOMELESSNESS, AND PEOPLE LIKE HERE, HERE'S A PLACE TO STAY WHERE THEY FEEL SAFE.
SO I AM FOR THE TOWN OF BLACK CANYON CITY.
I AM VERY WORRIED ABOUT THE ISSUES WITH THE WATER.
WE DON'T EVEN HAVE WATER ON A DAILY BASIS FOR THE RESTAURANT.
WE HAVE TO CLOSE DOWN EVERY THREE TO FOUR WEEKS.
WE JUST HAVE TO SHUT DOWN BECAUSE THERE'S NO WATER.
IF YOU DIG A WHILE, IT'S STILL COMING FROM THE SAME AGUA FRIA AND THERE'S JUST NOT ENOUGH WATER RIGHT NOW.
I APPRECIATE YOU TAKING THE TIME TO HEAR ME.
I HOPE YOU'LL LISTEN TO ALL OF THE RESIDENTS, TOO.
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>> GOOD MORNING, SIR. PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME FOR THE RECORD. MORNING.
>> MY NAME IS DAVE MCMAH. THANK YOU.
HAVE MAJOR CONCERNS THERE, PARTICULARLY WITH THE OPEN RANGE LAWS THAT WE LIVE IN.
WE HAVE COWS RUNNING UP AND DOWN THE STREETS 247.
A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT ARE GOING TO BE USING THIS EXIT AND PROPOSED GAS STATION ARE TOTALLY UNAWARE.
DIRECTLY ACROSS THE STREET, A TWO LANE, 25 MILE AN HOUR RESIDENTIAL STREET IS THE ALBA FRIA NATIONAL MONUMENT.
WE NEED TO PROTECT ITS BEAUTY.
THE RESIDENTIAL AREA AROUND THERE SHOULD NEVER BE COMPROMISED SO SOMEONE CAN MAKE A BUCK. THANK YOU.
>> THANK YOU, SIR. BILL BRADY.
GOOD MORNING, SIR. PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME FOR THE RECORD.
>> BILL BRADY, THANK YOU FOR HEARING US.
I'VE GOT ABOUT SIX PRIMARY CONCERNS FOR THIS DEVELOPMENT.
I WOULD ASK THE BOARD TO RESEARCH HOW MANY LOCAL RESIDENTS ARE ACTUALLY IN FAVOR OF ALL THESE PETITIONS AND EVERYTHING.
BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW THERE'S HARDLY 600 RESIDENTS IN BLACK CANYON CITY THAT ARE GOING TO TAKE THE TIME TO FILL OUT ANYTHING.
IF YOU WOULD, PLEASE MAKE SURE THAT IT'S THE LOCAL RESIDENT SIGNING IN FAVOR OF THIS SITUATION.
I DON'T KNOW WHERE THEY'RE COMING UP WITH THEIR STORY ABOUT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE PLENTY OF WATER BECAUSE BLACK CANYON DOES NOT HAVE WATER? THEY'RE ON TIER 4 EVERY YEAR.
I THINK THE WATER LINE THAT SERVES THAT AREA, IF MEMORY SERVES ME FROM ROGER WAGNER OWNED IT IS ONLY A TWO INCH LINE.
HE TOLD ME YEARS AGO, I WAS NOT GOING TO BE GETTING SERVICE FROM HIM IF I BOUGHT PROPERTY ON THE EAST SIDE OF THIS DEVELOPMENT AND TRIED TO BUILD SOME SPEC HOUSES ON IT.
THE WATER SYSTEM HAS NOT IMPROVED ANY, AND THE WATER HAS NOT GOTTEN ANY DEEPER.
IF THIS BOARD APPROVES THIS SITUATION, CAN THEY REQUEST THAT ANY WATER USED BY THIS ORGANIZATION IS RECYCLED FOR LANDSCAPING PURPOSES, THAT WOULD CUT DOWN ON GROUNDWATER, WELL WATER, WHATEVER WATER TO HELP LANDSCAPE.
YOU SAID THERE'S GOING TO BE TAX MONEY FROM THE FUEL SALES ON THIS.
I'VE BEEN WAITING 28 YEARS TO GET A QUARTER MILE IN FRONT OF MY HOUSE CHIP SEALED, 28 YEARS AND THE LIST KEEPS GROWING.
I WON'T SEE IT IN MY LIFETIME SO THE FUEL TAX MONEY YOU'RE BRAGGING ABOUT, YOU'RE GOING TO GET AND ALL THE BENEFITS TO BLACK CANYON CITY, I THINK IT'S A BUNCH OF HOGWASH.
TIL I SEE DIFFERENT. THAT'S MY OPINION.
WE HAVEN'T STILL SEEN AND WON'T SEE FOR SEVERAL YEARS THE EFFECT OF WHAT YOU PEOPLE DID APPROVING ALL THAT STUFF AT ROCK SPRINGS, 250 PEOPLE, MORE TRAFFIC, MORE CONFLAGRATION, MORE EVERYTHING WRONG.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU'RE GOING TO DO.
WHY WOULD YOU APPROVE THIS? THERE'S TOO MANY QUESTIONABLE VARIABLES ABOUT THIS SITUATION THAT MY OPINION DON'T NEED TO BE CHANGED.
IF THEY'VE GOT SOME COMMERCIAL PROPERTY, TELL THEM TO USE IT AS COMMERCIAL PROPERTY.
IF IT NEEDS REZONED, IT'S QUESTIONABLE.
I DON'T KNOW THAT WE REALLY NEED THAT THERE. THANK YOU.
>> THANK YOU, SIR. JACOB KLINGER? GOOD MORNING, SIR.
>> PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME FOR THE RECORD.
I'M A 36 YEAR RESIDENT OF BLACK CANYON CITY.
I'VE SEEN A LOT OF THIS STUFF IN THE PAST.
CAN I GET SOME HELP WITH THE MAP? THE AERIAL VIEW, THE SATELLITE MAP, THE PARCELS ON IT.
MY PRIMARY CONCERN WITH THE LAND USE PERMIT AND THE CHANGE OF THE RESIDENTIAL TO COMMERCIAL LIES IN THE LITTLE AREA.
WE MAKE THE PARK HERE. THERE IT IS.
THIS AREA UP HERE IS THE SAME PARCEL NUMBER AS THIS AREA SO IF WE SWITCH TO A COMMERCIAL USE PERMIT, IT ALSO SWITCHES THIS PIECE OF PROPERTY THAT I FEEL IS INTENTIONALLY BEING LEFT OUT OF THE CONVERSATION.
THAT IS A PERFECT PIECE FOR DEVELOPMENT.
IF YOU WERE A DEVELOPER, THAT'S A GREAT PLACE FOR A LITTLE TACO BELL OR WHATEVER YOU WANT THERE.
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THAT PLACE BACKS UP TO THE NATIONAL MONUMENT AND ALSO TO A COUPLE OF LARGE SECTIONS OF RESIDENTIAL LAND.MY MAJOR WORRY IS SWITCHING THAT TO LAND USE, BASICALLY MAKES ALL THAT LAND COMMERCIAL AND ANOTHER PORTION OF THAT IS DOWN HERE AT THE BOTTOM, WHERE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THIS, THERE'S RESIDENTIAL LAND HERE.
THERE'S RESIDENTIAL LAND HERE THAT ISN'T BEING TALKED ABOUT AND BACKING THAT COMMERCIAL PROPERTY UP, YES, THEY WANT TO BUILD RIGHT HERE NOW.
BUT HAVING THIS LAND USE PERMIT OPENS THIS WHOLE SECTION UP FOR THE ABILITY FOR THEM TO BUILD SOMETHING ON LATER ON.
ANOTHER THING THAT I WANTED TO SAY WAS REGARDING THE WATER, YOU GUYS ARE GOING TO HEAR ABOUT THAT A LOT.
I DON'T WANT TO BEAT A DEAD HORSE.
BUT I LIVED JUST TO THE EAST OVER HERE AND WHEN I MOVED INTO THAT PROPERTY, THEY WERE ON JUST A WATER TANK SYSTEM THAT HAD TO HAUL WATER.
THE WATER COMPANY TOLD ME THAT THERE WAS NOT ENOUGH WATER IN THE AREA FOR THEM TO RUN A LINE THREE PROPERTIES DOWN TO MY HOUSE.
I CURRENTLY HAUL WATER TWICE A WEEK AND HAVE BEEN UNABLE TO OBTAIN A PERMIT TO DROP A WELL FOR SIMILAR REASONS ABOUT THE DROUGHT.
WITH THOSE TWO THINGS BEING THE MAIN PRIORITY OF THIS, I ALSO WANT TO STATE THAT I AGREE.
>> THANK YOU, SIR. BUT I ASKED THAT QUESTION.
THAT IS NOT GOING TO BE COMMERCIAL, CORRECT?
>> NANCY GREGORY. GOOD MORNING. PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
BUT MY THING IS THAT I'VE LIVED BEHIND COMMERCIAL BUSINESSES AND I FIND THAT THE CITIES AND THE COUNTIES, THEY TURN A DEAF EAR TO FUTURE COMPLAINTS.
THIS IS GOING TO NOT BE A CHUCK STOP, BUT IT'S GOING TO BE A CAR STOP BECAUSE IT'S GOING TO BE VERY BUSY, AND PEOPLE ARE GOING TO COME IN TO USE THE RESTAURANTS AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
IT MAKES SENSE TO ME TO USE THE SMALLER SCALE DUE TO THE RESIDENTS COMPLAINTS ABOUT WATER ISSUES.
PEOPLE ARE GOING TO COME INTO THE GAS STATIONS ARE USUALLY PRETTY, MESSY.
THEY COME IN WITH THEIR MUSIC.
THEY'RE GOING TO BE TIRED ON THE ROAD, IT'S GOING TO BE LOUD AND THE LIGHTS.
FOR THE COMMUNITY ITSELF, I SEE THAT THE SMALLER SCALE PROJECT WOULD MAKE MUCH MORE SENSE.
THEY ARE GOING TO BE IMPACT IMPACTED AND ALSO, LIKE I SAID, I'VE LIVED THROUGH SIMILAR THINGS AND USUALLY THE RESIDENTS GET A DEAF EAR.
I DON'T KNOW IF YOU GUYS WOULD YOU A NEW BOARD, BUT THAT'S BEEN MY EXPERIENCE, AND USUALLY THE BIG BUCKS WINS, LIKE APS.
THE POWER LINES ARE NOT GOING TO BE BLAH, BLAH BLAH.
THEY'RE BIG AND UGLY AND THEY JUST HAD A GOOD PR PERSON.
BUT IT'S JUST IT JUST MAKES NO SENSE TO PUT THAT THERE.
THERE'S GOING TO BE IT'S GONNA BE A CAR STOP INSTEAD OF A TRUCK STOP.
IT'S GOT MULTIPLE RETAIL, MULTIPLE RESTAURANTS, AND WATERS.
SOUNDS LIKE IT'S A BIG ISSUE THERE.
ANYWAY, THAT'S BEING A VICTIM OF IT I LIVED BEHIND RETAIL AND IT WAS A FLOWER SHOP, AND THEN IT CHANGED TO A GYM.
ALL DAY, THE MICROPHONE, THE GATES THEY WOULDN'T CLOSE IT OR, THAT'S ALL THEY HAD TO DO.
THE CITY WOULDN'T HELP ME AND IT JUST SEEMS TO BE MY EXPERIENCE THAT THE LITTLE GUY GETS SCREWED.
AND THESE PEOPLE LIVE OUT. IT'S PRETTY RURAL.
YES. WE NEED TO ALSO BE RESPECTFUL OF THAT.
WE NEED TO GIVE HIM THE GAS STATION, BUT SMALLER, AND BE RESPECTFUL OF THE RESIDENTS WHO HAVE TO PUT UP WITH IT.
THE LIGHTS, THE CLEANLINESS, I THINK, IS ALWAYS A BIG ISSUE WITH GAS STATIONS AND IT IS GOING TO BE A CAR STOP. THAT'S IT.
>> THANK YOU. ANTHONY CHANDLER. GOOD MORNING, SIR.
>> PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME FOR THE RECORD.
WE GOT A HOUSE ON SUMMIT WHERE MY WIFE LIVES AND, WHICH IS RIGHT ON ACROSS THE FREEWAY RIGHT THERE.
WE GOT THREE DIESEL PICK UP TRUCKS AND WE GOT TO GO ALL THE WAY DOWN TO ANTHEM TO GET FUEL.
THERE'S ONE IN BLACK CANYON, BUT THEY WERE OVER $5 A GALLON FOR DIESEL.
EVERYTHING IS OUTRAGEOUS FOR THAT GAS STATION DOWN THERE AND THAT'S WHY I'M FOR A GOOD GAS STATION UP HERE.
AS FAR AS IT GOES TO WATER, THERE'S PLENTY OF WATER.
I WORKED FOR THE WATER COMPANIES AND WE GOT IT WELL ON THE OPPOSITE SIDE OF THE FREEWAY.
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THAT IT PUMPS OUT EVERY DAY, A TWO INCH LINE OF WATER FILLING A BIG POND THAT WE SELL THE WATER OUT OF AND IT IS 24 HOURS A DAY, IT RUNS.I NEVER GOES DOWN, 23 FEET, THE LOWEST IT GOES IN OUR WELL AND SO THERE'S PLENTY OF WATER YOU JUST GOT TO GET IT IN THE RIGHT PLACE, IF THEY WANT WATER FOR CHABRI STUFF, WE CAN GET THAT OUT OF THE POND, AND WE'RE GETTING LICENSED TO SELL THE WATER OUT OF THE WELL.
THERE'S GOING TO BE PLENTY OF WATER THERE AND I JUST CAN'T SEE ANYTHING THAT'S GOING TO GO AGAINST IT.
THAT'S ALL I GOT TO SAY ABOUT THAT.
>> THANK YOU, SIR. LAURIE MARTINEZ. GOOD MORNING.
>> GOOD MORNING, LAURIE MARTINEZ.
I'VE BEEN A PROPERTY OWNER IN BEAUTIFUL BLACK CANYON CITY SINCE 1998.
I'VE SEEN MANY CHANGES IN OUR COMMUNITY, GOOD AND BAD, AND BECAME HEAVILY INVOLVED IN PROMOTING AND ADDING TO THE GOOD AS A VOLUNTEER IN MANY ORGANIZATIONS AND AS A BUSINESS OWNER.
I STARTED A BUSINESS NETWORKING GROUP IN 2005 AND AFTERWARDS, BECAME THE PRESIDENT OF THE CHAMBER OF COMMERCE.
ALTHOUGH MY VOLUNTEERISM TENDS TO BE MORE POLITICAL NOW, I'M STILL HEAVILY INVOLVED IN BUSINESS, FUND RAISING, PHILANTHROPY, AND JUST SUPPORTING ALL OF OUR LOCAL BUSINESSES.
MY HUSBAND AND I CURRENTLY OWN SEVERAL PARCELS IN BBCC, ONE BEING BLACK CANYON PLAZA, WHERE WE SUPPORT SEVEN BUSINESSES, ALL LOCAL OWNERS, BUT ONE.
RECENTLY, OUR COMMUNITY HAS SEEN A LOT OF OWNERS OF BUSINESSES AND PROPERTIES CHANGE HANDS DUE TO THE RENEWED INTEREST IN OUR COMMUNITY BECAUSE OF THE TSMC TAIWANESE CHIP PLANT AND THE EXPANSION OF I17.
I PERSONALLY HAVE MADE IT A POINT TO MEET WITH ALMOST EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THE NEW PROPERTY OWNERS, INCLUDING DAKAR.
WE'VE GOT A LOT OF CHANGES COMING TO OUR COMMUNITY AND A LOT OF BUSINESSES, AND IT'S SO IMPORTANT TO ME AND MANY CITIZENS TO KNOW WHO THESE INVESTORS ARE, WHAT THEIR LONG TERM PLANS ARE, AND HOW IT WILL IMPACT OUR COMMUNITY.
MY FIRST MEETING WITH DAKAR ASSOCIATES WAS THREE YEARS AGO, WHERE I WAS SHOWN THE INITIAL TRAVEL CENTER PLANS RIGHT OFF I17 AND 244, WHICH, OF COURSE, AS WE ALL KNOW, WAS A GAS STATION AT ONE TIME.
FACILITATED THE FIRST COMMUNITY MEETING, AND MANY CITIZENS VOICED CONCERNS ABOUT WATER USAGE, LIGHTING, AND SECURITY, BUT MOSTLY HAVING A TRUCK STOP IN OUR COMMUNITY.
DAKAR'S REPRESENTATIVES REPEATEDLY COMMUNICATED AT THAT MEETING THAT IT'S A TRAVEL CENTER, NOT A TRUCK STOP.
THEY'RE NOT INSTALLING PUMPS FOR COMMERCIAL TRUCKING OR ANY TYPE OF PARKING FOR COMMERCIAL TRUCKING AND WOULD NOT BE OPEN 247.
SECOND COMMUNITY MEETING WAS IN APRIL OF THAT YEAR WITH DAKAR AND HIS ARCHITECT.
I DID NOT ATTEND AS A FACILITATOR, BUT AS A SUPPORTER OF THE PROJECT.
AFTER BEING TOLD WHAT THE UPDATES WERE AND THE PLANS FOR THE TRAVEL CENTER, THEY WERE CHANGED BASED OFF THE COMMENTS FROM ATTENDING CITIZENS AT THE PREVIOUS PUBLIC COMMUNITY MEETING, AND THEY WERE VERY WELL RECEIVED AT THE SECOND MEETING.
I'M NOT AN EXPERT IN WATER RESOURCES.
WE'VE HEARD FROM TONY, BUT I HEAR OUR TABLES ARE LOW, I HEAR THEY'RE HIGH.
BUT WE DO HAVE A NEW RV PART GOING IN JUST NORTH OF ROCK SPRINGS RESTAURANT AND I HAVE TO BELIEVE THAT OUR WATER TABLES ARE SUFFICIENT FOR ADDITIONAL GROWTH.
LIGHTING CONCERNS WERE DISCUSSED.
GOOD. I'M NOT GOING TO GO OVER THAT.
THE SECURITY WAS DISCUSSED AND IT'S JUST IMPORTANT THAT WE UNDERSTAND THAT A LOT OF US DO SUPPORT THIS PROJECT.
IT'S GOING TO BRING LOTS OF JOBS TO OUR COMMUNITY AND SURROUNDING AREAS.
WE'RE A COMMUNITY IN TRANSITION, AND WE ALL SEE IT.
WE ALL WANT TO MAINTAIN OUR SMALL RULE, ARIZONA FEEL OF A COMMUNITY, AND I WANT TO MAINTAIN THE SMALL FEEL AS WELL.
ARIZONA IS A VERY STABLE, FINANCIALLY SECURE ECONOMIC STATE, IS BUSINESS FRIENDLY, AND IS ATTRACTING NEW BUSINESS.
IT'S WELCOMING TO TAX REVENUE AND JOB GROWTH.
IN CLOSING, PHILANTHROPISTS DO NOT OPENLY ADVERTISE THEIR FINANCIAL DONATIONS.
WE'VE SEEN IT IN BEAUTIFUL BLACK CANYON CITY WITH PRIVATE CITIZENS AND THE OPERATING CANADIAN MINE WEST OF US AND OTHER ENTITIES.
I'VE ALREADY SEEN IT WITH THIS COMPANY, AND I'M CONFIDENT THEY WILL CONTINUE.
FOR ALL OF THESE REASONS, I SUPPORT THIS TRAVEL CENTER. THANK YOU.
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>> I ALSO JUST HAVE THESE COUPLE PACKETS THAT I WANTED TO GIVE OUT.
>> COULD YOU PLEASE SPA INTO THE MICROPHONE.
THANK YOU. PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
I'M A PART OWNER OF THE TRAVEL CENTER THAT'S GOING THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT HERE TODAY.
HERE I HAVE THE ACTUAL PETITION.
IT WAS MENTIONED BEFORE THAT THERE WAS A NEW PETITION WITH 700 PLUS SIGNATURES.
I HAVE COPIES OF THAT PETITION, ALONG WITH THE AREA MAPS SHOWING ABOUT WHERE THESE PEOPLE ARE FROM, IF I JUST WANTED TO GIVE THIS OUT TO YOU GUYS.
YOU COULD READ THEM FOR YOURSELVES AS WELL.
THESE ARE THE ACTUAL, LIKE, THE WRITING OF THE PETITIONS, AND THEN THIS IS LIKE THE COMMENTS THAT CAME FROM THEM.
SORRY. THERE IS A ONE MORE UP HERE.
HELLO, CHAIR, VICE CHAIR, TEAM BOARD MEMBERS.
TODAY, WE'RE HERE AGAIN, REQUESTING THE APPROVAL FOR OUR TRANSFERABLE AND PERMANENT USE PERMIT FOR THE AREA THAT WE ARE TRYING TO BUILD.
A LOT OF THE STUFF THAT I WANTED TO GO OVER AND TALK ABOUT HAS ALREADY BEEN DISCUSSED, THE THINGS ABOUT, LIKE THE MAIN CONCERNS OF THE PEOPLE, THE CRIME, ACTUALLY LIGHT POLLUTION WAS SOMETHING THAT WAS NOT MENTIONED.
I CAN MENTION THAT REALLY QUICKLY.
A LOT OF PEOPLE HAVE CONCERNS THAT THERE'S GOING TO BE EXTRA LIGHT SPREADING AROUND IN THE AREA.
FIRST OF ALL, THE BUSINESS IS NOT 24 HOURS.
IT WILL SHUT DOWN AT 10:00 P.M.
WHEN IT DOES SHUT DOWN AT 10:00 P.M.
THE ONLY LIGHTS THAT WILL REMAIN ON ARE THE VERY DIM SECURITY LIGHTS, CANOPY LIGHTS NECESSARY FOR OUR SECURITY GUARD, BECAUSE HE CAN'T BE PATROLLING IN THE DARK.
OTHERWISE, HE WILL SEE NOTHING AND THE MONUMENT SIGN THAT GOES ON THE HIGHWAY.
ALL THE OTHER LIGHTS AROUND THE BUSINESS, IN THE BUSINESS, THE BUILDING, EVERYTHING WILL BE SHUT OFF AFTER 10:00 P.M. ANOTHER ISSUE THAT WAS BROUGHT UP A LOT WAS THE ISSUE ABOUT THE TANKS, AND BECAUSE WE REALIZED THAT THERE WAS A GAS STATION HERE IN THIS AREA, ABOUT 30 SOMETHING YEARS AGO, THAT GAS STATION, WE KNOW, HAD UNDERGROUND TANKS, WHICH LEAKED INTO THE GROUND, WHICH IS WHY WE ARE PUTTING THIS VAULTED ROOM COVERED WITH WALLS AND MAKING ABOVE GROUND TANKS RATHER THAN HAVING ANYTHING, AND THEN THAT BASICALLY IS PREVENTING ANYTHING FROM SEEPING INTO THE GROUND.
BUT THE THREE THINGS THAT I WANTED TO TALK ABOUT THAT THE BENEFIT THAT WE'RE BRINGING, ONE WAS BROUGHT UP BY SUPERVISOR CHECK, THE TAXES, THE TAX BENEFITS THAT WILL BE COMING TO THE COMMUNITY.
BECAUSE OUR STATION IS RIGHT ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE COUNTY LINE, WE ARE INCENTIVIZING PEOPLE NOT TO STOP IN MARICOPA COUNTY FOR ANY OF THEIR GAS NEEDS, BUT INSTEAD COME UP THE EXTRA COUPLE MILES AND GIVE THAT TAX REVENUE TO YAVAPAI COUNTY.
>> NO PROBLEM. IT'S MY PROBLEM FOR SPEAKING TOO LONG.
NOT ONLY WILL WE BE GENERATING THIS TAX REVENUE IN TERMS OF GAS, BUT ALSO INSIDE OF THE SEA STORE ITSELF ON THE ACTUAL FOOD SALES THAT WE DO.
WE WILL HAVE TWO MAJOR TAX GENERATING REVENUES FOR THE COUNTY.
THE SECOND THING THAT I WANTED TO ADDRESS WAS THE PARKING LOT.
IT'S NOT UP THERE RIGHT NOW, BUT THE REASON WE BUILT THAT PARKING LOT WAS ONE BECAUSE WE KNOW THAT THERE'S A LOT OF TRAFFIC THAT COMES THROUGH THIS AREA, AND ESPECIALLY IN CASE SOMEBODY BREAKS DOWN, WE WANTED THEM TO HAVE A PLACE WHERE THEY COULD JUST STOP AND NOT BE IN ANYBODY'S WAY.
BUT THE SECOND THING WAS THAT WE DO REALIZE THAT LOT OF [INAUDIBLE] PARKING IS CURRENTLY ON OUR PROPERTY.
WHAT WE WANTED TO DO WAS FOR BOTH THEIR WEDDING VENUE, BECAUSE WE KNOW THAT WHEN THEY HAVE THEIR WEDDINGS, A LOT OF PEOPLE COME THERE, OVER 100 PEOPLE.
THAT'S WHY WE BUILT SUCH A MASSIVE PARKING LOT IN ORDER FOR THEM TO BE ABLE TO UTILIZE THAT AS WELL.
>> PROBABLY REALLY NEED TO STOP AT THIS POINT.
I DO APPRECIATE WHAT YOU'RE SAYING AND EVERYTHING, SO BUT I DO NEED TO MOVE ON.
>> MADAM CHAIR. IF YOU WANT ME TO READ THE INDIVIDUAL NAMES, I WILL, BUT WE HAVE 15 MEMBERS OF THE COMMUNITY THAT ARE OPPOSED AND DO NOT WISH TO SPEAK.
>> JUST GO AHEAD, DOWN AND SAY IT'S UP.
>> BRENDA FUNDER. ROBERT, I CAN'T READ YOUR LAST NAME.
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IT SAYS, I DO NOT WISH TO SPEAK.>> ONE OF THE CONCERNS I HAD WAS WATER.
MY CONCERN WITH THE WATER WAS MY PAST EXPERIENCE.
UNLIKE MR. CHANDLER, I DON'T HAVE A WELL, WHICH HE DID.
BUT RESPECTFULLY, SIR, I WOULD MENTION THAT A WELL DOES NOT A COMMUNITY MAKE.
THE WATER BOARD WHERE I SERVED AS THE CHAIRMAN FOR A SHORT TIME, MONITORS MAINTAINS AND RUNS THE WATER ON [INAUDIBLE] DISTRICT FOR BLACK CANYON CITY.
WE'RE CURRENTLY, AS EVERY YEAR, WE'RE IN DROUGHT LEVEL 4.
I HAD INQUIRED AT THE OFFICE, AND THEY SAID THAT SOME OF THE WELLS HAD GONE DOWN 34 FEET ON THE PUMP LEVEL.
THE AQUIFER IS NOT RECHARGING, AS IT SHOULD.
AT THE PUBLIC MEETING, THEY HAD A CHILEANS.
THE FIRST TIME, I SPOKE UP ABOUT THIS AND SAID, WHAT ABOUT WATER? WHERE'S THE WATER GOING TO COME FROM? POLITELY, RESPECTFULLY, AND CONSIDERATELY, THEY POOHED IT OFF THAT, WE'LL JUST TRUCK SOME IN FOR CONSTRUCTION.
WE HAVE LIMITED RESOURCES, AND AN AQUIFER IS LIKE A BOWL OF WATER.
SING, PUT ANOTHER WELL IN IS JUST PUTTING ANOTHER STRAW IN THAT BOWL.
IT IS NOT PUTTING MORE WATER IN IT.
IT'S JUST TAKING MORE OUT FROM ANOTHER LOCATION.
I MIGHT ASK THE BOARD RESPECTFULLY TO PLEASE CONSIDER THAT BECAUSE WHEN THE WATER IS GONE THE PEOPLE ARE GOING TO GO WHERE NOBODY'S GONNA BE HAULING WATER TO THEIR HOUSE LIKE SLIGMAN.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION AND ALLOWING ME TO SPEAK.
>> THANK YOU, SIR. THESE ARE ALL OPPOSED THAT DO NOT WISH TO SPEAK. LINDA BURNHAM.
STACY BURNHAM, SUSAN GLOVER, LESLIE GLOVER, MISTY ACRES, ROB LATHAN.
VICTORIA MCCARTHY, JACOB EDGEMON, LINDA STEVENS, AND JACKIE MONTE.
>> JUST CONTINUING WITH THIS HEARING.
THAT'S ALL THE GREEN SHEETS THAT WE HAVE, CORRECT?
>> GIVE ME ONE SECOND SUPERVISOR CHECK.
I JUST WANT TO CHECK WITH YOU ONE MORE TIME.
ANYTHING NEW COME IN? ALL RIGHT, THEN.
I WILL REACH OUT TO THIS AUDIENCE JUST TO ASK ANYBODY THAT IS HERE BECAUSE OF THIS ITEM WE ARE TALKING ABOUT RIGHT NOW, AND YOU HAVE NOT MAYBE FILLED OUT A GREEN SHEET OR WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK.
I'M ASKING NOW YOU MAY COME UP.
YOU DO NOT HAVE A GREEN SHEET.
>> WERE YOU ONE OF THE GREEN SHEETS THAT JUST WERE IN OPPOSITION?
THEN I SAW ANOTHER LADY'S HAND GO UP, DO YOU WANT TO SPEAK AFTER HER?
>> THANK YOU SO MUCH, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN.
I'M THE HIDDEN RESIDENTIAL PROPERTY TO THAT THEY'VE CHOSEN TO BLOCK OFF THE MAP RIGHT HERE ON TRAIL ROAD.
DURING THE MEETINGS, WE WERE ACTUALLY TOLD THEY WERE SCALING IT BACK, AND I SPECIFICALLY ASKED IF IT WAS ONLY GOING TO BE IN THE PARCEL AROUND CHILEANS.
THEY SAID, YES. THIS IS THE SECOND MEETING, BY THE WAY.
THEY DID STATE THAT THEY WERE NOT GOING TO TRY TO TURN ANYTHING COMMERCIAL.
THE WATER, JUST THE CRAZINESS.
I DON'T WANT MY FRONT YARD LIT UP LIKE CHRISTMAS EVERY DAY. I REALLY DON'T.
I WORK FROM HOME. I JUST CAN'T HAVE THAT.
THERE HAVE BEEN SEVERAL COMMENTS TODAY ABOUT TAXES AND HOW THE TAXES ARE GOING TO BENEFIT YAVAPAI COUNTY SOMEHOW.
I WOULD ENCOURAGE YOU TO LOOK AT MR. TAKAR'S BUSINESS PRACTICES AND THE FACT THAT HE'S ALREADY GONE TO PRISON FOR TAX EVASION.
THAT'S A HUGE CONSIDERATION FOR YOU TO TAKE IN. THANK YOU.
>> THANK YOU. WAS THERE ANOTHER HAND THAT WENT UP OUT HERE?
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IF YOU WANT TO COME ON UP.NOW, DID YOU FILL OUT A GREEN SHEET, BUT YOU DIDN'T.
YOU'RE IN OPPOSITION, BUT BUT YOU DIDN'T WANT TO SPEAK.
COME ON UP, AND PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
>> BLACK CANYON CITY. WE'VE BEEN ON THIS PROPERTY FOR ALMOST 60 YEARS MY FAMILY.
WHEN THEY'RE RECOMMENDING NODDING TO WATER MY PLANTS OUTSIDE, THERE'S A PROBLEM BECAUSE THERE'S NO WATER.
I JUST REALLY WANT YOU GUYS, I'M BEGGING YOU TO REALLY THINK ABOUT THE WATER BECAUSE IT'S A BIG PROBLEM. THANK YOU.
>> THANK YOU. I THINK I SAW A GENTLEMAN, DID YOU FILL OUT A GREEN SHEET? DID YOU NOT WANT TO SPEAK THEN?
>> YOU CAN, BUT YOU DID FILL OUT A GREEN SHEET.
I'VE LIVED IN BLACK CANYON CITY FOR ABOUT FOUR YEARS, AND I MOVED THERE BECAUSE OF THE RURAL ATMOSPHERE I DO SUPPORT PROGRESS IN OUR TOWN, BUT I DON'T SUPPORT ALL OF THIS.
I THINK IT SHOULD BE CUT DOWN.
I WANTED TO ADDRESS WHERE THE ROAD IS COMING IN ONTO COLDWATER ROAD.
THAT'S NOT A VERY GOOD, WHERE THAT ROAD COMES IN, YOU CAN'T SEE GOING EAST MORE THAN 75 FEET, AND THEY'RE ONLY GOING TO PUT A TURN LANE IN COMING TO TO THE EAST.
WHAT ABOUT THE PEOPLE THAT WANT TO TURN INTO THAT GAS STATION COMING FROM THE WEST.
WHO'S PAYING TO DO ALL THAT? IS THE TAXPAYER GOING TOO PAY FOR THAT, OR ARE THEY GOING TO PAY FOR FIXING THAT ROAD? ALSO IT SHOWS THAT ROAD A LITTLE BIT WIDER THAN IT IS.
IT'S JUST A TWO LANE ROAD WITH NO SIDEWALKS.
WE GOT PEOPLE WALKING ON THERE ALL THE TIME.
YOU CAN'T SEE AROUND THAT CORNER.
SOMEBODY'S GOING TO GET KILLED. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
>> THANK YOU, SIR. I THINK WE HAVE HEARD FROM THE AUDIENCE, AND THEN WE'VE ALSO HAD THE GREEN SHEETS.
I WILL REACH OUT TO SUPERVISOR CHECK.
>> I APPRECIATE YOU ADHERING TO THE PUBLIC COMMENT, TIME CONSTRAINTS, BUT I WONDERED IF THE OWNERS OR PARTIAL OWNERS DIDN'T HAVE MORE TO SAY TO US.
>> SUPERVISOR JENKINS, WE HEARD FROM THE ONE, IS IT THE ARCHITECT? WOULD YOU LIKE TO HEAR FROM THE APPLICANT BECAUSE APPARENTLY THEY ACTUALLY FILLED OUT THE GREEN SHEET.
>> YES, I WOULD. AND I HAVE SOME QUESTIONS AS WELL FOR THE APPLICANT, IF YOU COULD COME FORWARD, PLEASE.
>> IF YOU COULD MAYBE FINISH WHAT YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT BEFORE, AND THEN I FOLLOW UP WITH SOME QUESTIONS AND IF ANY OF THE OTHER BOARD MEMBERS MAY HAVE SOME AS WELL.
>> THE FIRST THING I TALKED ABOUT WAS THE HRF AND THE TAXES WE'RE GOING TO BE BRINGING INTO THE COMMUNITY.
SECOND THING WAS THE PARKING FOR CHILEANS.
WHERE I STOPPED WAS IS THAT WE ARE CLAIMING THAT WE WILL BE CHEAPER, AND WE'RE NOT JUST SAYING THAT.
THE REASON WHY WE WILL BE CHEAPER IS BECAUSE IN YAVAPAI COUNTY, THEY DO NOT REQUIRE THAT ETHANOL IS PUT INTO THE FUEL.
BECAUSE ETHANOL IS NOT BEING PUT INTO THE FUEL, WE SAVE ANYWHERE 8-10 CENTS PER GALLON.
INSTEAD OF TAKING THAT SAVINGS AND PUTTING IT IN OUR POCKET, WE WILL DECREASE OUR PRICE BY THAT MUCH.
THAT WAS THE ONE THING I WANTED TO SAY.
THE SECOND THING I WANTED TO ADDRESS WAS THAT I'VE HEARD FROM SOME PEOPLE THAT THE BIGGEST CONCERN WAS THAT THE SIZE OF THE PROJECT.
BUT AGAIN, IT DOESN'T MATTER EVEN IF WE WERE TO MAKE THE ACTUAL TRAVEL CENTER SMALLER, DECREASE THE PUMPS, MADE THE BUILDING A LITTLE BIT SMALLER.
WE WOULD STILL NEED THE ACCESS, THE USE PERMIT IN ORDER TO GET, CAN I BRING UP THAT MAP AGAIN OF THE-
>> SITE PLAN MAP. THANK YOU, AND WHERE IS THE PLAN? THANK YOU SO MUCH.
AGAIN, JUST TO REITERATE, THIS IS ALL GOVERNMENT OWNED LAND.
IT IS NATIONAL MONUMENT LAND THAT WE CANNOT TOUCH.
AFTER THIS POINT IS WHEN WE CAN START MAKING ANY ENTRANCE INTO HERE.
ADOT SAID THAT WE HAVE TO BUILD A SECOND ENTRANCE, BECAUSE IF THERE WAS JUST ONE ENTRANCE HERE, IT WOULD BE WAY TOO CONGESTED, WAY TOO MUCH TRAFFIC, AND THERE NEEDS TO BE ANOTHER WAY FOR PEOPLE TO GET IN AND OUT BECAUSE THIS IS LITERALLY CURRENTLY THE ONLY INGRESS EGRESS ROAD IN THAT AREA.
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EVEN IF WE WERE TO MAKE THIS PHYSICALLY SMALLER, WE STILL NEED TO HAVE THIS ENTRANCE HERE AS PER ADOT STIPULATIONS. THAT WAS IT.>> I HAVE A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS.
YOU TALKED ABOUT AND IT IS A SIGNIFICANT IMPACT TO THE FOLKS LIVE CLOSE TO THAT AREA, LIGHTING.
YOU TALKED ABOUT 6:00 A.M-10:00 P.M. WOULD THAT BE SOMETHING YOU WOULD BE WILLING TO ACTUALLY PUT IN A DOCUMENT?
>> YES. THE MAIN REASON WE DON'T EVEN WANT TO BE OPEN AFTER 10:00 P.M.
IT CAN SPEAK FROM EXPERIENCE BECAUSE WE ALREADY OWN GAS STATIONS.
ONE OF OUR GAS STATIONS, WE MAY SELL 2500 GALLONS DURING THE DAY.
AT NIGHT, WE SELL 150, MAYBE 200 GALLONS.
IT'S LITERALLY JUST NOT EVEN ECONOMICALLY WORTH IT FOR US TO BE ABLE TO TO KEEP THE TRAVEL CENTER OPEN.
THERE'S NOT THE PEOPLE COMING IN THERE.
THE OTHER LIGHT CONCERN WAS THAT OF LIGHT POLLUTION, BECAUSE LIGHT FROM A POINT SPREADS OUT AT ALL ANGLES.
I UNDERSTAND THAT. THAT'S WHY WE'RE PUTTING IN SHIELDING AROUND ALL OF OUR LIGHTS THAT CONCENTRATES ALL THE LIGHT INTO A CONE ON THE GROUND SO THAT IT DOESN'T POLLUTE ANYBODY ELSE'S HOME.
>> ANOTHER QUESTION IS CLOSE TO THE RESIDENTIAL AREA AND NOT JUST THE PARCEL ZONING, BUT PEOPLE ACTUALLY LIVE THERE.
WHAT BARRIER OR SCREENING OR SOMETHING TO MINIMIZE THE IMPACT TO THE.
>> WE'RE THINKING ABOUT SOUND DEADENING WALLS, BUT WE STILL HAVE TO GO BACK TO, LIKE, WE HAVE TO WORK WITH OUR ARCHITECTS AND WE HAVE TO WORK WITH THE COUNTY ENGINEERS AND OUR ENGINEERS AS WELL.
BUT THAT'S THE THING THAT WE'RE THINKING ABOUT, WAS SOUND DEADENING WALLS?
>> I WOULD JUST LIKE SOMETHING IN THE AGREEMENT.
SHOULD THIS GO THROUGH THAT YOU WORK WITH THAT DEPARTMENT.
SOMETHING HAPPENS. IT'S JUST NOT A CONVERSATION.
>> MY OTHER QUESTION IS, HOW MANY EMPLOYEES WILL RUN THIS?
>> WE WERE THINKING AT A MINIMUM, IT'S GOING TO BE AT LEAST 40 TO 45 AND PROBABLY MORE.
>> I MIGHT HAVE OTHER QUESTIONS LATER, BUT I'LL LET OTHER BOARD MEMBERS PLEASE CHIME IN.
I LOOK FORWARD TO YOUR COMMENTS.
>> I THINK THIS MIGHT BE MORE TO THE PLANNING AND ZONING, BUT DON'T LEAVE.
THE CONVERSATION OF OPEN RANGE WAS BROUGHT UP A FEW TIMES, AND I AM WELL AWARE THAT THAT HAS BEEN A PROBLEM EVEN IN PREVIOUS TERMS. SO SOME OF THE THINGS THAT HAVE BEEN BROUGHT UP TODAY, AND, OF COURSE, A LOT OF THE COMMENT THAT HAS BEEN GIVEN WASN'T AT THE PLANNING AND ZONING MEETING IN THE BEGINNING.
AND I WONDERED, WHAT ABOUT THE OPEN RANGE IN REGARDS TO THAT SITUATION, AND WAS THAT TALKED ABOUT OR BROUGHT UP OR ANYTHING?
>> THE OPEN RANGE ASPECT OF IT WAS NOT BROUGHT UP AT ALL AT PLANNING AND ZONING.
THIS IS THE FIRST TIME THAT THAT ASPECT HAS COME OUT AS PART OF IT.
SO AGAIN, ARIZONA BEING A FENCE OUT, WE COULD ASK AGAIN FOR SCREENING AND FENCING ALONG THE BOUNDARIES.
>> AND WE CAN MAKE IT PART OF CONDITIONS IF THE BOARD WOULD SO DESIRE.
>> I JUST HAD THAT QUESTION BECAUSE I DID HEAR THAT, AND I DO KNOW THAT THAT ISSUE DOES EXIST DOWN THERE, AND THAT CAN BE A SITUATION.
I HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FROM THE SUPERVISORS?
YOU MIGHT WANT TO STICK AROUND UP THERE.
I DON'T KNOW IF YOU EVEN KNOW THE ANSWER TO THIS, BUT PARDON MY IGNORANCE BECAUSE I'VE NEVER LOOKED AT THIS AREA ON THIS SUBJECT.
DO THEY HAVE A TRUE AQUIFER THERE, OR ARE THEY JUST CATCHING THE AQUIFER AS IT PASSES BY UNDERGROUND?
>> I HAVE NO KNOWLEDGE AND CANNOT SPEAK TO THAT AT ALL.
>> OKAY, SO I GUESS THAT CONCLUDES THAT, AND SUPERVISOR JENKINS, THERE'S ALWAYS THE OPTION TO SEND IT BACK TO PLANNING AND ZONING IF THAT IS SOMETHING BECAUSE OF SO MANY THINGS THAT HAVE COME UP.
NOW, I'M JUST PUTTING THAT OUT THERE FOR YOU.
>> I MEAN, I JUST HAD THE TWO CONDITIONS THAT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE IF THIS DOES PASS, AND THAT IS TO INCORPORATE THE SCHEDULE, THE OPENING AND CLOSING, AND TO DO SOMETHING THAT PROTECTS THE RESIDENTS.
I'M OPEN TO HEAR FROM THE BOARD IF THEY AGREE WITH THAT, OR IF THEY THINK IT NEEDS TO GO BACK TO PLANNING AND ZONING TO INCORPORATE THAT, OR IS THAT SOMETHING WE CAN INCLUDE IN THE MOTION HERE? THANK YOU.
>> SUPERVISOR, CHAIR, DID YOU HAVE A POINT?
>> I DON'T FEEL STRONGLY ABOUT THE HOURS OF OPERATION BEING A PART OF THAT.
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I DON'T KNOW IF WE HAVE ANY GUIDANCE ON THAT FROM OUR COUNSEL.IS IT COMMON FOR HOURS TO BE TIED TO CONDITIONAL USE PERMITS,? I SUPPOSE IT IS, BUT THAT'S A QUESTION THAT ALSO RELATES TO THE PIECE OF THE PROPERTY THAT'S OUTRIGHT COMMERCIAL.
DO WE NORMALLY PUT HOURS OF OPERATION ON COMMERCIAL LAND USE? I'M SORRY, IT'S A WEIRD QUESTION, I HAVEN'T THOUGHT ABOUT THIS ONE BEFORE.
>> CHAIR, VICE CHAIR, MEMBERS OF THE BOARD.
YES, THIS IS OBVIOUSLY SOMEWHAT UNUSUAL AS WAS POINTED OUT EARLY IN THE PROCESS.
NORMALLY, THIS WOULD GO THROUGH A REZONING, BUT IT CAN'T GO THROUGH A REZONING BECAUSE IT CAN'T MAKE A CHANGE TO THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN TO MAKE THE REZONING CONSISTENT WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
SO WE'RE LEFT WITH THIS USE PERMIT PROCESS WHICH TECHNICALLY FITS, BUT ISN'T THE PREFERRED PROCESS.
SO AS YOU CAN SEE, YOU'RE BEING ASKED TO ALLOW A COMMERCIAL USE IN AN AREA THAT'S ZONED RESIDENTIAL.
THE CRITERIA FOR CONSIDERATION BY THE BOARD, OBVIOUSLY, THESE ARE GRANTED IN THE DISCRETION OF THE BOARD, AND THE DETERMINATION IS WHETHER OR NOT IT'S DETRIMENTAL TO PERSONS OR PROPERTY IN THE VICINITY.
SO THAT WOULD BE THE BASIS FOR IMPOSING ANY CONDITIONS.
IT WOULDN'T BE UNUSUAL OR INAPPROPRIATE FOR THE BOARD TO IMPOSE CONDITIONS CONCERNING HOURS OF OPERATION AND SHIELDING.
THE HOURS OF OPERATION IS PRETTY CLEAR CUT.
SHIELDING IS THE ONE WHERE YOU MAY OR MAY NOT WANT INPUT FROM P AND Z.
THE ONLY OTHER ALTERNATIVE IS TO LEAVE IT OPEN-ENDED AND UP TO THE DISCRETION OF THE DEVELOPMENT SERVICE DIRECTOR, BUT THAT LEAVES BOTH THE APPLICANT AND THIS BOARD IN AN UNCERTAIN POSITION.
>> THANK YOU, COUNSEL. WHAT'S THE TIME FRAME ON THIS CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT? WHEN WOULD IT COME BACK FOR RE APPROVAL IN THE FUTURE?
>> THE REQUEST IS ACTUALLY TO BE PERMANENT AND TRANSFERABLE.
>> OKAY, GOT YOU. WELL, I JUST I HESITATE A LOT OF TIMES IF YOU PUT A TIME FRAME ON THINGS, THEN OTHER THINGS MOVING FORWARD IN THE AREA SORT OF USED THAT AS A PRECEDENT, AND IT'S NOT THE NUANCE ISN'T ALWAYS CAUGHT THERE.
AND I DO HAVE TO AGREE WITH YOU, MR. BRENNAN.
I MEAN, I TRY TO AGREE WITH YOU AS MUCH AS I CAN.
OUR BUILDING OFFICIALS SHOULD BE DICTATING HOW BARRIER WALLS GET PUT IN PLACE VERSUS THE BOARD.
>> I'D LIKE TO SAY I PREFER TO DISAGREE WITH COUNSEL ON MOST THINGS.
GIVEN THE PUBLIC COMMENT AND THINGS THAT WERE NOT PRESENTED TO PLANNING AND ZONING, I WOULD PREFER, AS SUPERVISOR JENKINS CALLED, THAT IT'S SENT BACK TO PLANNING AND ZONING.
>> I JUST WANTED TO WEIGH IN ON WHAT NIKKI WAS ASKING.
I THINK WHEN YOU GOT A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT, MAYBE HOURS ISN'T SPELLED OUT, BUT IT DEFINITELY IMPACT HAS TO BE TAKEN INTO CONSIDERATION.
AND WHEN YOU CONSIDER 24 HOUR LIGHTS OR LIGHTS THAT GO OFF FOR 8 HOURS EVERY NIGHT, I THINK THAT DEFINITELY WOULD BE A FACTOR TO CONSIDER.
OKAY, AND HE JUST NEVER DISAGREES WITH ME.
>> WOULD IT BE WORTHWHILE TO HEAR FROM OUR PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSIONER IF THERE WOULD BE A PRODUCTIVE USE IN SENDING IT BACK TO PLANNING AND ZONING?
>> MAY I ASK A QUESTION? IF IT'S SENT BACK, I THINK WE NEED TO GIVE THEM CLEAR DIRECTION ON WHAT WE WANT THEM TO WORK ON.
IS IT THE TWO THINGS THAT I BROUGHT UP OR IS IT ADDITIONAL?
>> THE TWO THINGS YOU BROUGHT UP AND WATER.
>> I'M JUST CURIOUS. THERE'S JUST SO MUCH.
>> I'M JUST NOT SURE WHAT PLANNING AND ZONING COULD CHIME IN ON WATER.
>> WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT WATER, I UNDERSTAND WHAT EVERYBODY'S SAYING HERE, BUT LET ME JUST ASK THE QUESTION.
WHEN THEY GO TO SEE ABOUT THIS WATER, DON'T THEY GO TO THE STATE TO GET ALL OF THIS APPROVED? AND THEN THEY BRING IT BACK.
I SEE THAT GENTLEMAN RIGHT THERE.
ARE YOU THE ARCHITECT? MAYBE YOU COULD COME UP AND ANSWER THAT QUESTION.
COME ON UP TO THE PODIUM, PLEASE, SIR.
>> JOHN RIEDEL, ARCHITECT FOR THE PROJECT.
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YES. WE HAVE TO GO TO THE STATE FOR THE WATER USE, AND THAT WILL BE REQUIRED TO BE APPROVED BY THE STATE BEFORE WE CAN.>> SO YOU HAVE NOT DONE THAT YET, BECAUSE YOU HAVE TO GET THROUGH THIS PROCESS TO GET DOWN THAT PROCESS?
>> OKAY. SO SENDING IT BACK ON WATER ISSUES WON'T HELP ANYBODY AT ALL.
SO WE MOVE FORWARD, HE GETS DOWN TO THE STATE, THEY GO AHEAD, AND THEY GIVE HIM THE WATER, THEN HE COMES BACK UP HERE, WHERE ARE WE GOING FROM THERE? IS HE GOING TO COME BACK? ARE THEY GOING TO COME BACK IN FRONT OF THE BOARD HERE? WHAT'S THAT NEXT STEP? I JUST NEED TO ASK, OR IS THAT SOMETHING YOU CAN EVEN ANSWER ON THERE?
>> I NEED A LITTLE BIT MORE INFORMATION.
IF YOU GUYS ARE TALKING ABOUT TABLING THIS FOR ADDITIONAL INFORMATION, WHICH IS OBVIOUSLY YOUR PREROGATIVE, BUT AS PART OF THE PERMITTING, IF THIS WERE TO BE GRANTED, THEN THEY WOULD START GOING THROUGH THE STANDARD PERMITTING PROCESSES, AND THERE ARE TRIGGERS FOR CERTAIN THINGS, AND THE COMMERCIAL PERMITTING PROCESS REQUIRES, SUCH AS FIRE AND ORGANIC WATER STILL.
WE WOULDN'T NECESSARILY NEED TO COME BACK TO YOU IF IT'S GRANTED.
BUT OF COURSE, WE WOULD NEVER HAVE THESE ANSWERS IF WE DON'T GO FORWARD NOW.
>> SO, OBVIOUSLY, SENDING IT BACK TO PLANNING AND ZONING DOESN'T REALLY GET US THE ANSWERS WE'RE LOOKING FOR.
>> I WOULD CONCUR WITH SUPERVISOR JENKINS.
WE WOULD NEED VERY CLEAR DIRECTION ON WHAT SPECIFICALLY YOU ARE LOOKING FOR FROM P AND Z ON THAT.
>> I'M FINE NOW, I UNDERSTAND.
>> MADAM CHAIR, WE'RE MISSING SOME KEY STUFF, TOO.
LIKE SALINS IS SAYING, THEY RUN OUT EVERY THREE TO FOUR MONTHS.
THE WATER COMPANY GUY IS SAYING THEY GOT PLENTY OF WATER.
ARE YOU ON A WELL, OR ARE YOU ON THE WATER COMPANY? SO YOU'RE RUNNING OUT OF WATER FROM THIS WATER COMPANY THAT SAYS THEY HAVE PLENTY OF WATER?
>> SUPERVISOR KUKNYO, WE JUST GOT TO TALK TO THE PERSON HERE.
>> I'M THE DIVERSION CHAIR, I APOLOGIZE.
>> WE CAN'T TALK TO THE WHOLE AUDIENCE, IS WHAT I'M TRYING TO SAY HERE.
BUT AGAIN, WE DON'T HAVE ANY CONTROL.
WE ARE NOT GOING TO KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT WATER.
I UNDERSTAND SOME PEOPLE HAVE A WELL.
THERE'S OTHER PEOPLE RUNNING OUT OF WATER, BUT AT THE SAME TIME, THIS CAN'T GO ANYWHERE ELSE, UNTIL WE DO SOMETHING HERE.
SO AT THAT POINT, I'M REACHING OUT TO THE BOARD OR SUPERVISOR JENKINS.
DO WE WANT TO GET A MOTION GOING, OR HOW DO WE WANT TO GO?
I HEAR THAT YOU WANTED TO SEND IT BACK TO P AND Z, BUT THE APPLICANT AGREED TO SIX HOURS OF OPERATION.
SO UNLESS WE DON'T AGREE TO IT, WHY WOULD WE SEND IT BACK FOR THAT PURPOSE? THE OTHER PURPOSE WAS TO DEFINE SOME KIND OF BARRIER FOR THE PUBLIC.
AGAIN, HE'S AGREEING TO IT, BUT I WOULD STILL REFER TO THE DEVELOPMENT SERVICES DEPARTMENT, PLANNING AND ZONING TO DETERMINE WHAT THAT IS WITHIN CODE.
SO I'M REALLY STRUGGLING ON WHAT DO WE GAIN BY GOING BACK TO PLANNING AND ZONING?
>> SUPERVISOR, MADAM CHAIR, SUPERVISOR JENKINS, SINCE I WEIGHED IN ON THIS PREVIOUSLY.
I DON'T THINK THAT DISCUSSION ON HOURS OF OPERATION IS REALLY WORTH SENDING IT BACK WHEN THERE'S AN AGREEMENT, YOU KNOW, THERE.
AND IF IT WOULD, HELP THE COMMUNITY MEMBERS KNOW THAT THAT'S A PERMANENT FIXTURE IN THIS APPROVAL, I WOULD ABSOLUTELY BE WILLING TO INCLUDE THAT AS A CONDITION.
>> AND I THINK THAT MR. BRENNAN HAS SOMETHING TO SAY.
>> CHAIR, VICE CHAIR, MEMBERS OF THE BOARD, THANK YOU.
I WAS JUST GOING TO SUGGEST THERE'S ALSO THE ALTERNATIVE OF SIMPLY PUTTING IT OVER TO THE NEXT BOARD MEETING AND DIRECTING STAFF TO BRING FORWARD APPROPRIATE CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL THAT ADDRESS HOURS OF OPERATION, WHICH OBVIOUSLY IS VERY STRAIGHTFORWARD, BUT ALSO APPROPRIATE SHIELDING FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD SO THEY COULD WORK WITH THE APPLICANT TO DEVELOP SOMETHING THAT'S APPROPRIATE AND ACCEPTABLE AND THEN BRING IT BACK ON A DATE CERTAIN IF THAT'S MEETS THE BOARD'S REQUIREMENTS.
>> THAT WOULD MORE SATISFY ME.
>> WELL, I TEND TO NOT LIKE TO WASTE PEOPLE'S TIME AND ASK THIS WHOLE ROOM TO SHOW UP AGAIN.
HOWEVER, WE DO LIKE TO KEEP OUR VICE CHAIR HAPPY SO I COULD GO EITHER WAY ON THAT.
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>> MADAM CHAIR, MY POINT IS, I THINK THIS IS D'S AREA.
SHE KNOWS THIS AREA, SHE KNOWS WHAT'S GOING ON, AND I'D SUPPORT WHATEVER DECISION SHE COMES UP WITH.
I AM OKAY WITH THIS PROJECT, JUST SO YOU KNOW.
THIS IS WHERE IT HAS TO START IN ORDER TO GET ANYTHING ELSE MOVING FORWARD.
>> THAT'S THE PROBLEM WHEN WE DON'T HAVE AUTHORITY OVER THE WATER.
>> RIGHT. SO I'M GOING TO LOOK TO MAYBE LEGAL OR TO MARK.
I WANT TO REVISE THE MOTION THAT WE HAVE HERE TO INCLUDE THESE TWO STIPULATIONS, IF YOU COULD HELP ME WITH THE WORDING ON THAT.
BECAUSE AGAIN, I DON'T THINK WE NEED TO DELAY THIS BECAUSE THESE ARE ADDRESSING WHAT I NOW HEAR FROM THE PUBLIC THAT'S REALLY IMPORTANT TO THEM.
THE OTHER ONE OF COURSE IS WATER, WHICH WE CAN'T REALLY ADDRESS.
SO I'D LIKE TO MAKE AN AMENDED OR A MOTION WITH THESE TWO ITEMS.
>> SUPERVISOR JENKINS. HOURS OF OPERATION, IS THIS CORRECT? SIX TO TEN? IS THAT A SEVENTH CONDITION WOULD BE HOURS OF OPERATIONS WOULD BE 06:00 TO 10:00 P.M. THAT'S A PRETTY SIMPLE ONE.
THEN ALSO SCREENING OF RESIDENTIAL AREAS THAT SHIELDS THE COMMERCIAL OPERATION FROM RESIDENTIAL AREAS.
>> WORKING WITH DEVELOPMENT SERVICES, WHAT IS APPROPRIATE WITHIN CODE? WE KNOW WHAT THE GOAL IS.
>> I CAN CERTAINLY ADD IT IN AND SAY THAT SCREENING SHALL MEET CURRENT PLANNING AND ZONING ORDINATES TO SCREEN BETWEEN COMMERCIAL AND RESIDENTIAL.
>> WITH THAT, I'M GOING TO ACTUALLY CLOSE THIS HEARING AS OF RIGHT NOW, AND I'M LOOKING TOWARD THAT MOTION.
WE'RE AT THE END OF IT. I'M SORRY, SIR.
>> SUPERVISOR JENKINS, IS THAT IN LINE WITH WHAT YOU'RE THINKING THERE? ARE THERE ANY OTHER EDITS TO ANY OF THE OTHER CONDITIONS WHILE I'VE GOT THE CONDITIONS UP?
I BELIEVE THAT WE HAVE PRETTY MUCH TALKED IT OVER.
>> I'M LOOKING IN MY PACKET FOR THE ORIGINAL MOTION WHERE I CAN ADD THOSE.
>> COULD YOU COULD SAY MOTION TO APPROVE UNDER THE OUTLINED CONDITIONS.
>> I'LL DEFER TO THE CLERK, IF YOU WANT ME TO READ THEM INTO THE RECORD OR NOT?
>> THANK YOU. I MOVED TO APPROVE THE USE PERMIT IN ADDITION TO THE THREE CONDITIONS PRESENTED.
>> WOULD THAT BE ALL EIGHT CONDITIONS, THOUGH? WEREN'T THERE?
>> THERE THERE WERE INITIALLY FIVE THAT WERE APPROVED AT P AND Z, AND THEN STAFF ADDED NUMBER 6, AND THE BOARD HAS ADDED SEVEN AND EIGHT SO THERE ARE THREE ADDITIONAL CONDITIONS.
>> WHICH SHE SAID THREE. DID YOU SAY THREE?
>> YES I SECOND. SUPERVISOR CHECK.
>> YES. ITEM IS APPROVED UNANIMOUSLY.
>> THANK YOU. WE ARE GOING TO TAKE.
[3. Development Services - Approve a non-transferrable Use Permit for APN: 406-04-017A to allow the continued use of an existing building to be used for up to 75 events per year for a maximum of 250 guests for a period of 15 years, on a 43.8-acre parcel adjacent to the City of Cottonwood, subject to the conditions of approval. Owner: Mongini House I; Applicant/Agent: John Mongini; PLA25-000042. (District 3 - Supervisor Check)]
WE ARE IN ANOTHER HEARING ITEM.THIS IS THE LAST HEARING ITEM.
THIS IS IN DISTRICT THREE, SUPERVISOR CHECK APPROVE A NON TRANSFERABLE USE PERMIT. GOOD AFTERNOON.
>> GOOD AFTERNOON. THANK YOU FOR CORRECTING ME.
I WAS ABOUT TO SAY GOOD MORNING, BUT WE DON'T WANT TO REWIND.
GOOD AFTERNOON. MEMBERS OF THE BOARD.
I'M STEPHANIE JOHNSON, PLANNER WITH DEVELOPMENT SERVICES.
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I AM HERE TODAY TO PRESENT TO YOU THE UVX BARN USE PERMIT REQUEST.THANK YOU. THIS MATTER WAS HEARD BY THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION.
ON JULY 17TH, THERE WAS A VOTE OF SEVEN TO ZERO WITH A RECOMMENDATION OF APPROVAL FOR USE PERMIT PLA 205-00-0042.
COMMISSIONER RADOCCIA, IS HERE TODAY, IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO HEAR FROM HIM REGARDING THIS APPLICATION.
THIS SUBJECT PARCEL IS LOCATED IN DISTRICT 3, SUPERVISOR CHECKS DISTRICT.
SPECIFICALLY AT 1095 SOUTH UVX ROAD.
THIS PARCEL IS ACCESSED OFF OF STATE ROUTE 89 A AND IS ADJACENT TO THE CITY OF COTTONWOOD.
THE SUBJECT PARCEL IS SURROUNDED BY MOSTLY DEVELOPED PARCELS THAT ARE SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL USES AND AGRICULTURAL USES.
THE PARCEL IS SURROUNDED BY SIMILAR R1L 18 ZONING, AND THEN IT GOES OVER INTO THE CITY OF COTTONWOOD.
THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING CONSIDERATION OF A NON TRANSFERABLE USE PERMIT FOR A PERIOD OF 15 YEARS TO ALLOW FOR THE CONTINUED USE OF AN EXISTING BUILDING THAT WAS PREVIOUSLY USED AS A DAIRY BARN TO BE USED FOR UP TO 75 EVENTS PER YEAR FOR A MAXIMUM OF 250 GUESTS PER EVENT.
EVENTS WILL CONSIST OF WEDDINGS, CORPORATE RETREATS, BUSINESS CONFERENCES, AND SIMILAR TYPE EVENTS ON A THREE ACRE PORTION OF A 43 ACRE FARM.
IT IS LOCATED IN AN R1L ZONING DISTRICT, AND THIS APPLICATION IS SUBJECT TO THE CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL.
THE APPLICANT IS ALSO REQUESTING A CONTINUED WAIVER OF THE PAVING REQUIREMENTS IN SECTION 602, AS WELL AS A CONTINUED WAIVER OF SECTION I DON'T HAVE THAT RIGHT IN FRONT OF ME.
I BELIEVE IT'S SECTION 567 FOR SCREENING.
I'LL CLEAR THAT UP IN THE CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL.
I HAVE THE SPECIFIC SECTION THERE.
THERE WE GO. WE'LL TAKE A LOOK AT THIS ONE.
THE PARKING AREA IS AN EXISTING PASTURE THAT IS USED AS PART OF THE RANCH, AND THAT IS PART OF THE REASONING FOR REQUESTING TO HAVE THAT WAIVER OF THE PAVING REQUIREMENTS.
THE APPLICANT IS ALSO REQUESTING WAIVER OF THE SCREENING AS THIS IS A 43 ACRE PARCEL, AND THE THREE ACRE PORTION USED FOR THE PUBLIC EVENTS IS PRETTY CENTRALLY LOCATED WITHIN THE PARCEL.
THE CLOSEST NON FAMILY MEMBERS TO THIS PARCEL, MOST OF THE PARCEL IS SURROUNDED BY FAMILY MEMBERS. I'LL STATE THAT FIRST.
BUT THE CLOSEST NON FAMILY MEMBER WOULD BE THE RV PARK, THAT'S APPROXIMATELY 800 FEET FROM THE PARCEL AND YOU CAN JUST BARELY START TO SEE IT OVER HERE.
IT'S COMING OUT TO THE WEST END OVER HERE.
THERE ARE ALSO THREE STEEL STORAGE CONTAINERS THAT ARE ON THE PARCEL THAT THE APPLICANT WOULD LIKE TO CONFIRM OFFICIAL USE OF BEING THAT THIS IS AN R1L ZONED PARCEL.
CARGO CONTAINERS ARE NOT ALLOWED, SO THEY WANT TO CONFIRM THE USE OF THOSE FOR THE EVENT CENTER STORAGE.
LET'S TAKE A LOOK AT THE ZONING ALLOWANCE OVERVIEW.
THIS PROPERTY IS ZONED R1L 18.
IT IS A SITE BUILT ONLY ZONING DISTRICT.
IT WOULD ALLOW FOR A SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENCE, A GUEST HOME, AND ACCESSORY STRUCTURES AS A MATTER OF RIGHT.
SINCE THE EVENT VENUE IS NOT ALLOWED BY RIGHT IN THIS ZONING DISTRICT, NOR IS IT AN APPROVED AGRICULTURAL USE, A USE PERMIT IS REQUIRED FOR THIS ACTIVITY.
A USE PERMIT IS ALSO REQUIRED FOR THAT STEEL STORAGE STEEL STORAGE CONTAINER PLACEMENT ON AN R1L PARCEL.
THE PROPERTY HAS BEEN HISTORICALLY USED AS A DAIRY SINCE THE 1800S AND CURRENTLY HAS AGRICULTURAL STATUS WITH THE ASSESSOR'S OFFICE FOR PASTURE LANDS AND HIGH DENSITY AGRICULTURE WITH COMMERCIAL USES.
THERE HAS BEEN A USE PERMIT IN PLACE SINCE 2016 FOR THIS EVENT VENUE.
THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING TO INCREASE THE NUMBER OF EVENTS FROM 25 PER YEAR TO 75 PER YEAR.
THE APPLICANT IS ALSO REQUESTING TO INCREASE THE RENEWAL PERIOD FROM 10 YEARS TO 15 YEARS.
THERE IS NO HISTORY OF COMPLAINTS OF ANY TYPE ON THIS PARCEL.
LET'S TAKE A LOOK AT SOME PHOTOS.
HERE'S A PICTURE OF THAT FIRST POSTING.
THIS IS LOCATED AT THE INTERSECTION OF UVX ROAD AND STATE ROUTE 89A.
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YOU'RE GOING TO SEE THIS IS UNBELIEVABLE.I DON'T KNOW HOW I CAUGHT THESE PHOTOS WITH NO TRAFFIC, BECAUSE YOU ALL KNOW 89A IS VERY BUSY.
BUT THIS IS LOOKING ACROSS 89A.
THIS IS LOOKING TOWARDS THE CITY OF COTTONWOOD, WHERE THEN THEY HAVE THE TACO BELL AND THE BLACK BEAR DINER, ALL OF THAT AREA SO THAT'S HOW YOU ORIENTED THAT DIRECTION.
THIS VIEW IS NOW LOOKING EAST.
THIS IS AS IF YOU WERE HEADED OFF TO SEDONA.
I DON'T KNOW HOW I MANAGED TO STAND THERE AND HAVE NO TRAFFIC.
ANYHOW. MOVING RIGHT ALONG, HERE IS THE ENTRANCE INTO THE UVX ROAD.
IT IS A GATED PRIVATE ROAD, AND YOU DO NEED A CODE TO ENTER THAT GATED AREA.
HERE IS THE SECONDARY POSTING FOR THE HEARINGS.
SINCE THE PARCEL IS SO LARGE, I WAS REQUIRED TO DO A COUPLE AREAS FOR POSTING AND BECAUSE IT'S IN A PRIVATE GATED AREA, WHERE THERE WOULD BE NO NOTICE TO ANYBODY IF IT WAS ONLY AT THE VENUE, I ALSO PLACED THAT AT STATE ROUTE 89A AND UVX.
SO THERE WAS THAT PUBLIC NOTIFICATION OF THESE HEARINGS.
THIS ONE IS LOOKING INTO THE ENTRANCE OF THE VENUE, AND YOU'LL SEE OFF TO THE LEFT HAND SIDE THAT PASTURE PARKING AREA.
THIS IS THE MAIN PARKING AREA FOR THE EVENT GUESTS.
JUST A VIEW WITH SOME VEHICLES IN IT, THERE IS QUITE A LARGE PASTURE AREA FOR PARKING.
ADDITIONAL PARKING AS THE PASTURE EXPANDS.
NOW, THIS SPOT IS THE GRAVEL SURFACED AREA THAT IS DIRECTLY ADJACENT TO THE EVENT VENUE COURTYARD.
THIS IS WHAT THEY'LL BE USING FOR ADA PARKING SO THAT THEY WILL HAVE A HARDER SURFACED AREA FOR THOSE ADA NEEDS.
AS YOU LEAVE THE PASTURE PARKING AREA, THIS IS THE ENTRANCE INTO THE EVENT VENUE SPACE.
THIS AREA IS IDENTIFIED ON THE SITE PLAN AS THE WEDDING TREE.
THIS IS WHEN YOU WALK JUST PAST THE WEDDING TREE, LOOKING DIRECTLY INTO THE EVENT VENUE COURTYARD ENTRANCE.
HERE, I JUST TURNED AROUND REAL QUICK AND TOOK A VIEW OF WHAT IS IDENTIFIED ON THE SITE PLAN AS THE WEDDING TREE.
AS YOU ENTER INTO THE VENUE COURTYARD, THIS BARN IS JUST TO THE LEFT.
IT'S LABELED ON YOUR SITE PLAN AS THE JUNK BARN.
THIS AREA IS NOT GOING TO BE ACCESSED BY THE PUBLIC, RATHER IT IS FOR STORAGE OF MATERIALS.
THE OUTSIDE HAS BEEN MADE AESTHETICALLY PLEASING TO ALLOW FOR PHOTO OPPORTUNITIES FOR THE EVENT VENUE, BUT IT WILL NOT BE ACCESSED BY THE PUBLIC.
HERE'S A VIEW OF THE COURTYARD IN THAT PUBLIC AREA WITH THE HISTORIC MASONRY DAIRY BARN IN VIEW.
AGAIN, ANOTHER VIEW OF THE PUBLIC COURTYARD AREA.
THIS IS STANDING MOORED UP BY THE DAIRY BARN, LOOKING BACK TOWARDS THE JUNK BARN, TO THE LEFT, YOU CAN SEE THE RESTROOM FACILITY IN VIEW. BLESS YOU.
HERE'S THE RESTROOM FACILITY THAT IS LOCATED IN THE IN THE COURTYARD, AND THIS IS AVAILABLE FOR GUEST USE.
OUTDOOR SEATING IN FRONT OF THE ACTUAL EVENT BARN.
HERE'S THE ENTRANCE INTO THE EVENT BARN, AND I'LL JUST GO QUICKLY THROUGH THE SO YOU CAN GET A FEEL FOR THE VENUE.
THIS IS THE LITTLE BAR AREA IN THE BACK, YOU CAN SEE WHERE THEY SET UP FOR THE LIVE MUSIC.
DOWNSTAIRS IS THE GET READY AREA FOR THE BRIDE, AS WELL AS THE GET READY AREA FOR THE GROOM.
BACK BEHIND THE BARN IS MORE OUTDOOR SEATING.
THIS IS COMING AROUND FROM THE BACK THERE.
THIS IS THAT GRASSY COURTYARD THAT'S ADJACENT TO THE JUNK BARN.
IT DOES ALLOW FOR SOME MORE OUTDOOR SEATING RIGHT ALONG THE SIDEWALK AREA AND A GRASSY RECREATION AREA.
NOW, WE'LL TALK ABOUT THE STEEL STORAGE CONTAINERS JUST A LITTLE BIT.
THERE ARE THREE STEEL STORAGE CONTAINERS THAT ARE ON THE PROPERTY.
CURRENTLY, THEY ARE BEING USED FOR STORAGE OF WEDDING VENUE SUPPLIES.
THEY ARE TUCKED UNDER A SHADE CANOPY.
THEY ARE LABELED ON THE SITE PLAN, BUT THEY'RE TUCKED IN UNDER A SHADE CANOPY, AND THEY'VE BEEN PAINTED TO MATCH THE SURROUNDINGS SO THAT THEY'RE AS MINIMALLY OBTRUSIVE AS POSSIBLE.
LET'S LOOK AT SOME CITIZEN PARTICIPATION.
LETTERS WERE MAILED TO THE 1,000 FOOT RADIUS AS REQUIRED BY ORDINANCE.
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IN FEBRUARY, THE APPLICANT HELD AN ONSITE MEETING MARCH 5TH.THE DEPARTMENT SENT OUT NOTICE VIA MAIL AND ALSO BY POSTING THE PROPERTY JUNE 26TH.
THERE HAVE BEEN NO COMMENTS OF SUPPORT NOR OPPOSITION RECEIVED.
CONFORMANCE WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
THIS PARCEL HAS BEEN DESIGNATED AS AGRICULTURE.
UNDER SECTION 2.7 LAND USE GOALS AND POLICIES IN THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, GOAL 2 IS TO PRESERVE THE SMALL TOWN FEELING OF RURAL COMMUNITIES WHILE INCREASING LOCALLY OWNED BUSINESSES.
MORE SPECIFICALLY, POLICY 2A IS TO ENCOURAGE PRESERVATION AND CHARACTER AND FUNCTION OF THE HISTORIC ESTABLISHED NEIGHBORHOODS, AND POLICY 2B IS TO ENCOURAGE THE DEVELOPMENT AND PRESERVATION OF LOCALLY OWNED BUSINESSES.
STAFF BELIEVES THE SUBJECT APPLICATION FOR A USE PERMIT IS ALIGNED WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN SINCE THE HISTORIC FARM AND HISTORIC BUILDINGS HAVE BEEN PRESERVED AND ARE BEING USED AS A LOCALLY OWNED BUSINESS.
THE SUBJECT PARCEL ALSO MAINTAINS AN AGRICULTURAL USE OVER THE MAJORITY OF THE PROPERTY.
IN SUMMARY, I WOULD LIKE TO JUST LET YOU KNOW THE APPLICANT IS HERE TO REQUEST FROM YOU A NON TRANSFERABLE USE PERMIT FOR A PERIOD OF 15 YEARS TO ALLOW FOR THE CONTINUED USE OF AN EXISTING BUILDING TO BE USED FOR 75 EVENTS PER YEAR, MAXIMUM OF 250 GUESTS PER EVENT FOR A PERIOD OF 15 YEARS SUBJECT TO THE CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL.
ALSO, REQUESTING A WAIVER OF SECTION 602 PAVING AND A WAIVER OF SECTION 567 SCREENING REQUIREMENTS.
I ALSO WOULD JUST LIKE TO NOTE THERE IS NATURAL VEGETATIVE SCREENING AROUND THE VENUE.
THERE'S A LOT OF TREES SO THERE IS THAT BUFFER BESIDES THE SPACE BUFFER OF THE REMAINING AGRICULTURAL ACRES.
>> GIVEN FEEDBACK FROM OUR ENVIRONMENTAL UNIT REGARDING THE SEPTIC SYSTEM, STAFF DOES HAVE CONCERNS THAT THE EXISTING SEPTIC SYSTEM MAY NOT BE ADEQUATE, AND THAT IT MAY BE UNDERSIZED FOR THE PROPOSED USE.
THIS BEING NOTED, WE CAN THIS IS AN ITEM THAT CAN BE HANDLED IN PERMITTING AFTER THE USE PERMIT, SHOULD YOU CHOOSE TO APPROVE THIS TODAY.
WE DO HAVE A STIPULATION THAT'S A CATCH ALL THAT YOU HAVE TO BE IN COMPLIANCE WITH ALL REGULATIONS.
HOWEVER, IF YOU FIND THAT A SPECIFIC CONDITION OF APPROVAL REGARDING THE SEPTIC IS APPROPRIATE, I WOULD BE HAPPY TO ADD THAT.
LET'S TAKE A LOOK AT THOSE CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL.
ONE, A NON-TRANSFERABLE USE PERMIT TO ALLOW FOR THE CONTINUED USE OF A THREE ACRE PORTION ON A 43 ACRE FARM, AND AN EXISTING BUILDING PREVIOUSLY USED AS A DAIRY BARN TO BE USED FOR 75 EVENTS PER YEAR FOR A MAXIMUM OF 250 GUESTS PER EVENT FOR A PERIOD OF 15 YEARS.
EVENTS ON WEEKENDS AND HOLIDAYS ARE TO END BY MIDNIGHT, AND EVENTS HELD ON WEEKDAYS ARE TO END BY 10:00 PM.
THERE IS TO BE NO OUTDOOR AMPLIFIED MUSIC AFTER 9:00 PM.
EVENT VENUE PORTION OF THE SUBJECT PARCEL TO BE MAINTAINED IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE SITE PLAN DATED APRIL 11, 2025 AND SUBMITTED WITH THIS APPLICATION.
IN ACCORDANCE WITH ALL APPLICABLE CODES, REGULATIONS, AND ORDINANCE REQUIREMENTS, A WAIVER OF SECTION 602 PAVING REQUIREMENTS FOR THE GUEST PARKING AREA, WAIVER OF SECTION 567 SCREENING REQUIREMENTS.
THEN NUMBER 6 WILL BE ANY FUTURE EXPANSION OF THE EVENT VENUE OR STRUCTURES USED FOR THE EVENT VENUE WILL REQUIRE AN AMENDMENT TO THIS USE.
NUMBER 7, ALLOW FOR THREE STEEL STORAGE CONTAINERS TO BE USED FOR EVENT VENUE SUPPLIES.
APPLICANT SHALL OBTAIN COMMERCIAL BUILDING PERMITS FOR THE STEEL STORAGE CONTAINERS.
NUMBER 8, CERTIFICATE OF COMPLIANCE TO BE ISSUED WITHIN TWO YEARS OF THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS APPROVAL, CONFIRMING THAT ALL STIPULATIONS HAVE BEEN SATISFIED.
THE USE IS OPERATING IN CONFORMANCE WITH ALL APPROVALS, AND IN CONFORMANCE WITH ALL APPLICABLE COUNTY, STATE, AND FEDERAL REGULATIONS, OR THE USE PERMIT WILL BECOME NULL AND VOID.
IN THE EVENT, THE OWNER OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTY FILES A CLAIM UNDER ARS SECTION 12-1134, REGARDING THIS USE PERMIT, THIS USE SHALL BE NULL AND VOID.
SHOULD THE BOARD FIND THIS TO BE AN APPROPRIATE LAND USE AND CHOOSE TO APPROVE THIS APPLICATION.
THOSE ARE THE SUGGESTED CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL. THANK YOU.
THIS CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION.
WE HAVE BOTH COMMISSIONER RADOCCIA, AND THE APPLICANTS AVAILABLE, IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.
I ALSO STAND FOR ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE.
SUPERVISOR CHECK, THIS IS IN YOUR DISTRICT.
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I'LL HAND THIS OVER TO YOU.>> THANK YOU, CHAIR. THANK YOU, STEPHANIE, FOR YOUR PRESENTATION. IT'S VERY THOROUGH.
THE ONLY ADDITIONAL COMMENTS I HAVE ON THIS IS THE BIG PICTURE HERE IN OUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
I THINK IN ORDER TO KEEP THE AGRICULTURAL LANDS THAT ARE IDENTIFIED IN THAT COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, WE NEED TO BE PROACTIVE IN NAVIGATING LAND USE SO THAT THAT CAN BE ACHIEVED.
IT'S ECONOMICALLY DIFFICULT, AND I'M REALLY HAPPY TO SEE YAVAPAI COUNTY REALLY PUTTING A LOT OF THOUGHT PROCESS IN OUR ZONING ORDINANCE UPDATE ABOUT HOW TO ACHIEVE THAT GOAL FOR THE COUNTY AND FOR CONSTITUENTS AND LANDOWNERS.
I THINK THIS POTENTIAL APPROVAL REALLY FITS IN WELL WITH THE GREATER VISION THAT I HOLD FOR HOW THE COUNTY CAN HELP PROMOTE AGRICULTURAL LAND USE, KEEP OUR AGRICULTURAL LANDS AGRICULTURAL.
THE AGRICULTURAL ECONOMY IS NOT GOING TO DO THAT FOR US, AND SO ALLOWING THESE ADDITIONAL USES, IS THE VERY BEST PATH FORWARD FOR MAINTAINING THOSE BEAUTIFUL AGRICULTURAL OPEN SPACES THAT CONTRIBUTE SO MUCH TO OUR RURAL CULTURE HERE.
THOSE ARE MY ADDITIONAL COMMENTS.
>> I DON'T PERSONALLY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.
ANY COMMENTS, QUESTIONS? WITH THAT BEING SAID, DO YOU WANT TO [INAUDIBLE]?
>> YES. I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE HEARING ITEM NUMBER 3 AS WRITTEN WITH THE SUGGESTED CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL.
>> WE HAVE A MOTION, SECOND, BUT THIS IS A HEARING ITEM.
I DO NEED TO REACH TO THE CLERK OF THE BOARD.
ANY COMMENTS OR ANY LETTERS THAT YOU'VE RECEIVED.
>> NO COMMENTS WERE RECEIVED ON THIS ITEM.
>> NO. AUDIENCE. ANYBODY WANTS TO TALK ABOUT THIS ITEM.
I'M GOING TO CLOSE THIS HEARING.
WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.
I'LL CALL FOR THE VOTE. SUPERVISOR CHECK.
[ EXECUTIVE SESSION]
>> AT THIS TIME, I WILL MAKE A MOTION TO GO INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION.
>> I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.
MR. BRINTON, DID YOU HAVE A COMMENT AT ALL THAT YOU WANT TO MAKE? I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. CALL FOR THE VOTE.
>> WE'RE NOW CONVENING INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION.
WE COME BACK OUT OF EXECUTIVE SESSION.
EXCUSE ME, BUT I JUST WANTED SOME LEGAL DIRECTION HERE.
JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE I'M RIGHT.
WE MADE A MOTION A SECOND, AND WE VOTED, AND WE WENT INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION.
I JUST COME RIGHT BACK OUT NOW.
>> THEN JUST REFER THAT WE WENT INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION, AND AT THIS TIME, WE WILL NOT BE TAKING ANY ACTION, IS THAT CORRECT? THEN WE JUST MOVE ON. THAT IS WHERE WE'RE AT WITH OUR EXECUTIVE SESSIONS TODAY.
NOW WE WILL MOVE ON, I BELIEVE, TO THE MANAGER'S REPORT.
>> CHAIR, I HAVE TO EXCUSE MYSELF.
[BACKGROUND] OH, NO, I JUST WANTED TO MOVE IT.
I'M SORRY. I WANTED TO GET THAT DONE.
THEN WE'LL GO BACK. IT HAS BEEN A VERY BUSY DAY.
A LOT OF MOVING PARTS FOR SURE.
MR. THOMPSON. WE'RE HERE TO HEAR THE NEWS.
[ COUNTY MANAGER'S REPORT Pursuant to A.R.S. §38-431.02(K), the County Manager may present brief summaries of current events but no discussion may occur, and no action may be taken regarding anything that is presented.]
VICE CHAIR MEMBERS OF THE BOARD, MAURY THOMPSON, I WILL BE VERY QUICK.
I JUST WANTED TO SHARE SOME GOOD NEWS WITH YOU TODAY.
PLEASE TO REPORT A SIGNIFICANT MILESTONE IN OUR ONGOING EFFORTS TO ENSURE CONTINUED EXCELLENCE OF OUR WORKFORCE DEVELOPMENT PROGRAMS. AGAIN, AS YOU ALL KNOW, RECENTLY, FAIRLY RECENTLY CAME IN HOUSE.
THE YAVAPAI COUNTY WORKFORCE DEVELOPMENT BOARD HAS BEEN RECOMMENDED FOR RECERTIFICATION BY OUR STATE WORKFORCE BOARD.
THIS RECOMMENDATION FOLLOWS A COMPREHENSIVE REVIEW PROCESS FOR WHICH OUR TEAM HAS BEEN DILIGENTLY PREPARING SINCE APRIL.
I WANT TO PAUSE THERE AND SPECIFY, I'M NOT JUST CALLING OUT OUR WORKFORCE DEVELOPMENT DIRECTOR, A MEMBER OF STAFF, BUT OUR WORKFORCE DEVELOPMENT BOARD, VOLUNTEERS WHO HAVE DEVOTED THEIR TIME TO WORKFORCE DEVELOPMENT AND DONE SOME HEAVY LIFTING OVER THE LAST FEW MONTHS.
FINALLY, THE SUCCESSFUL RECERTIFICATION OF OUR WORKFORCE DEVELOPMENT BOARD IS CRUCIAL FOR OUR ABILITY TO CONTINUE SECURING FUNDING, DELIVERING VITAL SERVICES, AND SUPPORTING THE ECONOMIC GROWTH OF YAVAPAI COUNTY,
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WHICH WE KNOW WE'VE TALKED ABOUT FOR THE LAST COUPLE OF DAYS.SO I JUST WANT TO THANK THE TEAM FOR THEIR DEDICATION.
AGAIN, PARTICULARLY, OUR VOLUNTEER WORKFORCE DEVELOPMENT BOARD FOR THEIR HARD WORK IN REACHING THIS CRITICAL POINT, AND WE'LL KEEP YOU UPDATED AS THEY CONTINUE TO MAKE ADDITIONAL PROGRESS. THANK YOU.
>> THANK YOU. THAT BEING SAID, WE ARE GOING TO GO AHEAD AND MOVE TO THE CALL TO THE PUBLIC.
[ CALL TO THE PUBLIC: Individuals may address the Board for up to three (3) minutes on any relevant issue within the Board's jurisdiction. Pursuant to A.R.S. §38-431.01(H), Board members shall not discuss or take action on matters raised during the call to the public. The Board may direct staff to study the matter or direct that the matter be rescheduled for consideration at a later date.]
INDIVIDUALS MAY ADDRESS THE BOARD FOR UP TO THREE MINUTES ON ANY RELEVANT ISSUE WITHIN THE BOARD'S JURISDICTION PURSUANT TO ARS 38-431.01H.BOARD MEMBERS SHALL NOT DISCUSS OR TAKE ACTION ON MATTERS RAISED DURING THE CALL TO THE PUBLIC.
THE BOARD MAY DIRECT STAFF TO STUDY THE MATTER OR DIRECT THAT THE MATTER BE RESCHEDULED FOR CONSIDERATION AT A LATER DATE.
VICE CHAIR, I THINK WE HAVE SOME SHEETS FOR CALL THE PUBLIC.
>. I'M SURE, WE HAVE TWO ANTHONY E BLACK JUNIOR, PLEASE.
GOOD AFTERNOON, SIR. PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME FOR THE RECORD OF THE MICROPHONE.
IT'S THE GREEN LIGHT ON. YOU CAN PRESS IT, IF NOT. THANK YOU.
>> ANTHONY BLACK. GOOD AFTERNOON.
I AM A RESIDENT OF PAULDIN AND OWNER, OPERATOR OF ARIZONA'S LARGEST RANCH TO DOOR CO-CHAINED NETWORK, DELIVERING THE WIDEST VARIETY OF LOCAL FOODS.
I AM HERE TODAY BECAUSE DEVELOPMENTAL SERVICES ISSUED A NOTICE OF VIOLATION AGAINST MY PROPERTY BEFORE COMPLETING THE INSPECTION THEY SCHEDULED AND BEFORE THE REBUTTAL PERIOD EXPIRED.
THIS ACTION DENIED ME MY DUE PROCESS AND SHOWED CLEAR ENFORCEMENT BIAS.
ON APRIL 2 OF THIS YEAR, YOU VOTED TO APPOINT JOSHUA WARFIELD AS DEPUTY COUNTY ZONING INSPECTOR UNDER ARS 11-85 ALPHA.
IT WAS UNDER YOUR AUTHORITY THAT MR. WARFIELD ADVANCED THE NOTICE OF VIOLATION AND OPEN DISREGARD OF STATE STATUTE EVEN AFTER AGRICULTURAL USE HAD BEEN ADMITTED ON THE RECORD.
BECAUSE HE ACTED UNDER THE AUTHORITY YOU VESTED IN HIM, THIS BOARD IS DIRECTLY RESPONSIBLE FOR THE CONSEQUENCES OF HIS ACTIONS.
TAXPAYER RESOURCES ARE NOW BEING WASTED ON A SECOND HEARING OFFICER, MULTIPLE COUNTY DEPARTMENTS, AND A COUNTY ATTORNEY HAS NOW BEEN APPOINTED TO THIS VIOLATION TO DEFEND THE NOV THAT STATE LAW MAKES UNENFORCEABLE.
THIS PROBLEM IS NOT LIMITED TO DEVELOPMENTAL SERVICES.
THE SUPERVISOR OF THE AGRICULTURE ACCESSOR OFFICE ADMITTED TO ME DURING MY FIELD REVIEW FOR AG STATUS, WHEN I CITED THE STATE STATUTE THAT QUALIFIES MY PROPERTY FOR AGRICULTURE CLASSIFICATION, THAT THEY FOLLOW THEIR OWN STATUTES.
THE ASSESSOR'S OFFICE THEN DENIED MY CLASSIFICATION UNDER THE WRONG SUBSECTION ARS 42 D12 152.
BECAUSE OF THIS MISAPPLICATION, I HAVE ALREADY FILED A FORMAL COMPLAINT WITH THE ARIZONA DEPARTMENT OF REVENUE, WHICH OVERSEES COUNTY ASSESSORS TO SURE THIS MATTER IS ADDRESSED AT THE STATE LEVEL.
WHILE THE ASSESSOR IS AN ELECTED OFFICE, THIS STILL REFLECTS ON YAVAPAI COUNTY AS A WHOLE.
THE BOARD CANNOT IGNORE WHEN MULTIPLE DEPARTMENTS UNDER A COUNTY UMBRELLA ARE DISREGARDING STATE LAW.
AT MINIMUM, YOU HAVE THE RESPONSIBILITY TO DEMAND COMPLIANCE WITH STATUTE AND NOTIFY THE DEPARTMENT OF REVENUE OR THE ATTORNEY GENERAL WHEN THE ELECTED OFFICE IS OPERATING OUTSIDE OF THE LAW.
TAKEN TOGETHER, THESE ACTIONS SHOW A PATTERN OF STATUTORY MISAPPLICATION, NOT ISOLATED INCIDENTS.
THIS IS ABOUT WHETHER YAVAPAI COUNTY, THROUGH ITS DEPARTMENTS AND OFFICIALS, FOLLOW THE LAW OR IGNORE IT.
IF THE BOARD REFUSES TO ACT, THEN THIS BOARD IS COMPLACENT IN THAT PATTERN.THANK YOU.
>> BEFORE I STEP AWAY REAL QUICK, I HAVE TWO SPECIFIC REQUESTS OF THE BOARD, IF POSSIBLE.
MY FIRST ASK THAT YOU PLACE THIS MATTER AS A FUTURE AGENDA ITEM FOR OVERSIGHT OF DEPUTY ZONING INSPECTOR APPOINTMENT AND ENFORCEMENT PRACTICES UNDER ARS 11-185 ALPHA WITH A WRITTEN STAFF REPORT WITHIN 30 DAYS.
MY SECOND, THAT YOU DIRECT COUNTY COUNSEL TO PROVIDE WITHIN 14 DAYS A WRITTEN STATUS UPDATE OF THE NOTICE OF VIOLATION AND WHETHER DISMISSAL IS RECOMMENDED IN LIGHT OF STATE PREEMPTION AND THE AUGUST 12 RECORD.
>> WILLIAM SARL. GOOD AFTERNOON, SIR, IF YOU COULD PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME FOR THE RECORD.
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>> MY NAME IS WILLIAM SARL, AND I'M NOT SURE IF YOU REMEMBER ME, BUT I SPOKE IN FRONT OF YOU A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO ABOUT YAVAPAI COUNTY BATHROOM POLICY.
TO RECAP, ON JULY 10, THE HR DEPARTMENT INFORMED FEMALE YAVAPAI COUNTY EMPLOYEES THAT THEY WOULD BE SHARING THE ONLY MULTITALE BATHROOM IN THE BUILDING WITH A BIOLOGICAL MALE, AND THAT NO RETALIATION WOULD BE TOLERATED.
WHEN THEY ASKED IF ANY ACCOMMODATIONS WOULD BE MADE FOR THE WOMEN THAT ARE NOT COMFORTABLE SHARING A BATHROOM WITH A BIOLOGICAL MALE, THE EMPLOYEES WERE TOLD THAT NO ACCOMMODATIONS WERE PLANNED.
THESE ARE PUBLIC BATHROOMS, SO THIS AFFECTS ALL WOMEN OF YAVAPAI COUNTY.
YAVAPAI COUNTY MANAGEMENT DID NOT INFORM THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS ABOUT THIS NEW POLICY.
I'M VERY HAPPY TO UPDATE THE PUBLIC THAT WITHIN DAYS OF THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS LEARNING OF THIS SITUATION, CONSTRUCTION HAS STARTED ON A NEW THIRD BATHROOM AT THE YAVAPAI COUNTY BUILDING ON COMMERCE DRIVE.
THE FEMALE EMPLOYEES THAT WORKED THERE ASKED ME TO LET THE BOARD KNOW HOW THANKFUL THEY ARE FOR THIS.
IT DEFINITELY GOES A LONG WAY TOWARDS SOLVING THE PROBLEM IN THAT ONE BUILDING.
HOWEVER, THAT DOES NOT SOLVE THE ISSUE FOR THE REST OF THE FEMALE YAVAPAI COUNTY EMPLOYEES.
IN BUILDINGS LIKE THIS ONE, BIOLOGICAL MALE EMPLOYEES ARE ALLOWED BY HR DEPARTMENT TO USE THE WOMEN'S ROOM IN THIS VERY BUILDING.
YOUR FEMALE EMPLOYEES ARE NOT COMFORTABLE GOING TO YOUR HR DEPARTMENT ABOUT THIS.
A LOT OF THEM HAVE CONTACTED ME TO MAKE SURE THIS MESSAGE WAS PRESENTED TO YOU AS YOU HAVE THE AUTHORITY TO FIX THE PROBLEM.
NO EMPLOYEE SHOULD BE ALLOWED TO INTIMIDATE OR CAUSE STRESS AND ANXIETY TO ANY CO WORKERS.
AS YOU MAY KNOW, MORE THAN ONE AND OUT OF THREE WOMEN HAVE BEEN VICTIMS OF DOMESTIC ABUSE, SEXUAL ASSAULT, AND WORSE.
MANY OF THESE WOMEN WILL NEVER BE COMFORTABLE WITH A BIOLOGICAL MALE IN THE WOMEN'S ROOM.
NO MATTER HIS INTENT, WHEN A BIOLOGICAL MALE ENTERS A WOMEN'S BATHROOM, HE IS CAUSING STRESS, ANXIETY, AND INTIMIDATION AMONG THE FEMALE EMPLOYEES AND FEMALE MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC.
IT IS FOR THIS REASON THAT WE ARE ASKING THE YAVAPAI COUNTY BOARD OF SUPERVISORS TO BAN ALL BIOLOGICAL MEN FROM ALL WOMEN'S BATHROOMS IN ALL YAVAPAI COUNTY BUILDINGS. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.
>> WELL, THANK YOU, EVERYONE, AND WE ARE ADJOURNED.
* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.