Aug 18, 2025 SPECIAL BOARD OF SUPERVISORS DAYS 1&amp;2

ABOUT THE CHALLENGES THAT YOU'RE FACING.

AND YOU SAY, WELL, WHY IS THAT IMPORTANT? WELL, I WILL TELL YOU, IT'S IMPORTANT BECAUSE THAT'S THE BASIS FOR WHAT WE'RE DOING TODAY.

YOU KNOW, WE DON'T JUST GET TOGETHER WITH PLACES AND SAY, HEY, WHAT'S SOMETHING FUN WE WANT TO DO, RIGHT? BECAUSE WE'RE DEALING WITH PUBLIC DOLLARS HERE.

SO IT HAS TO BE BASED ON THE CHALLENGES YOU'RE FACING, OR THOSE CHALLENGES THAT YOU FEEL LIKE ARE COMING DOWN THE PIKE AT YOU AS A COMMUNITY THAT IF YOU DON'T GET OUT IN FRONT OF, FOR WHATEVER REASON, THEY'RE GOING TO EAT YOUR LUNCH.

AND SO HE CAME OUT IN JUNE AND HE DID INTERVIEWS, AND HE DID FOCUS GROUPS.

AND I'M GOING TO TELL YOU, SOME JURISDICTIONS THAT WE WORK WITH, ALL THEY' ASK US TO DO IS TO MEET ONE ON ONE WITH THE ELECTED BODY.

>> HAPPENS ALL THE TIME.

>> THEY'LL SAY, A LISTEN, YOU COME IN AND YOU MEET WITH THE FIVE SUPERVISORS, AND THEN WE'LL COME IN TO RETREAT.

BUT YOU ALL DID, I THINK, ABOVE AND BEYOND, AND WHAT A LOT OF FOLKS ARE STARTING TO DO NOW, THEY'RE SAYING, ASK OUR DEPARTMENT DIRECTORS WHAT THEY'RE THINKING, OKAY? SOMETHING THAT I'VE SEEN IN A COUPLE OF PLACES, WHAT YOU DID IS, HEY, TALK TO OUR CITY AND OUR TOWN MANAGERS TO SEE WHAT THEY'RE FACING.

THEY LIVE WITHIN OUR COUNTY BOUNDARIES.

AND SO WE REALLY HAVE, AS WE'RE COMING INTO THIS.

AND ACTUALLY, WE HAVE SOME MORE INFORMATION THAT TYLER WILL TALK ABOUT IN A LITTLE WHILE THAT REINFORCES ALL OF THIS.

WHAT ARE THE CHALLENGES THAT WE'RE FACING? AND WE'RE BRINGING THAT TO BEAR TODAY AND TOMORROW IN THIS SESSION SO YOU CAN THINK ABOUT ALL OF THAT, SEE WHERE IT ALIGNS ACROSS THESE GROUPS, AND THEN MAKE SOME DECISIONS AS AN ELECTED BODY.

>> NOW.

>> AND SOME OF THE LOGIC OF THAT, IF I COULD ADD.

YEAH. IS THAT WHEN YOU SEE WHAT YOU AND OTHERS BELIEVE ARE THE MOST IMPORTANT ISSUES THAT YOU'RE FACING, YOU CAN DEVELOP A PLAN THAT ADDRESSES THOSE ISSUES.

IT'S VERY, VERY LOGICAL.

BUT THESE ARE REALLY BIG DECISIONS THAT YOU'RE GOING TO BE MAKING TODAY AND TOMORROW.

SO WE WANT YOU TO HAVE ALL THE INPUT THAT YOU ASKED US TO GATHER, AND THERE'S A LOT.

SO TODAY AND TOMORROW, THAT'S WHERE WE'RE GOING TO BE MAKING THESE DECISIONS.

AND THE BEAUTY OF THE PROCESS IS THIS IS THAT THE DECISIONS GET MADE AMONGST YOURSELF IN THIS SETTING, RIGHT? SOMETIMES FOLKS WILL SAY, AND I KNOW I'M ONE OF THEM, AND I KNOW DAVE'S ONE OF THEM CAUSE WE TALKED ABOUT IT BEFORE.

THEY LIKE TO COME IN WITH ALL THIS STUFF.

AND WE INTENTIONALLY DON'T PROVIDE STUFF AHEAD OF TIME BECAUSE WE WANT THE CONVERSATIONS TO HAPPEN HERE.

WE WANT THE DISCUSSIONS TO HAPPEN HERE.

AND WE'VE BEEN IN CERTAIN CIRCUMSTANCES WHERE THERE'LL BE ONE OR TWO COME IN WITH 85 QUESTIONS OR KNOWING WHAT THEY WANT, RIGHT? BECAUSE THERE AND IT REALLY DETRACTS FROM THE ABILITY TO COME TO CONSENSUS AMONGST ELECTED BODY.

SO TODAY AND TOMORROW, WE'RE GOING TO BE TALKING ABOUT THOSE RESULTS THAT YOU WANT TO ACHIEVE FOR YOUR CUSTOMER.

YOU CALL THEM GOALS, RIGHT? NOW, THAT'S NOT THE END OF THE STORY.

YEARS AGO, FOLKS WOULD GET IN THESE SESSIONS.

THEY WOULD DRINK GOOD HOT COFFEE, WHICH I THINK IS BACK THERE, THAT'D HAVE GOOD LUNCHES, RIGHT? GOOD AFTERNOON, SNACKS, WHATEVER IT IS.

AND THEY WOULD COME OUT OF THIS WITH A BUNCH OF GOALS, AND THEY WOULD SAY, "THAT WAS GREAT. MAN, THAT WAS GREAT." THEY WOULD TAKE THE DOCUMENT, THEY WOULD P-D-F IT, THEY'D STICK IT ON THEIR WEBSITE, AND ABSOLUTELY NOTHING TO HAPPEN.

BECAUSE EVERYBODY GETS BACK TO WORK.

I SUSPECT YOU GUYS ARE BUSY BACK THERE.

YEAH. I GET IT, RIGHT? BUT THEY WOULD GET BACK TO WORK.

SO WHAT WE HAVE IN THIS PROCESS IS, LET'S SAY YOU CREATE TEN STRATEGIC GOALS FOR THE COUNTY.

MARV AND I ARE GOING TO COME BACK IN SEPTEMBER, AND FOR EVERY GOAL THAT YOU DEVELOP, WE'RE GOING TO CREATE A ROADMAP FROM THAT DAY UNTIL THE GOAL COMES DUE SO THAT YOUR DEPARTMENTS WORKING TOGETHER CAN START WORKING TOWARD THE ACHIEVEMENT OF THAT, AND YOUR ADMINISTRATION CAN UPDATE YOU AS THE ELECTED BODY ON HOW THINGS ARE GOING.

DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? AT LEAST AT A HIGH LEVEL A LITTLE LESS MUDDY.

>> AND THEN ALONG THE WAY, AS BOARD MEMBERS, YOU CAN SUPPORT THAT.

YOU CAN REMOVE BARRIERS, YOU CAN ALLOCATE RESOURCES, AND YOU CAN HELP DEVELOP THE KEY PARTNERSHIPS WITH OTHER ORGANIZATIONS THAT ARE ESSENTIAL TO HELP YOU ACHIEVE THESE GOALS.

SO THERE'S A LOT OF WORK FOR EVERYBODY TO DO.

AND THE WAY THIS PROCESS WORKS IS ENSURE YOU ENSURES THE ORGANIZATION AND THE COMMUNITY, THERE'S A ROADMAP FOR GETTING THESE GOALS ACCOMPLISHED.

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YEARS AGO, WE SAW A LOT OF THOSE BEAUTIFUL PLANS SITTING ON SHELVES.

AND IT REALLY DEEPLY DISTURBED US.

IT WAS NOT WHY WE DO THIS.

WE WANT TO SEE GOOD THINGS HAPPEN IN THE COMMUNITIES THAT WE WORK IN.

SO WE LITERALLY WILL NOT DEVELOP A STRATEGIC PLAN FOR AN ORGANIZATION WITHOUT ALSO THERE BEING AN IMPLEMENTATION PLAN FOLLOWING ON.

OF COURSE, AS SENIOR MANAGERS, THIS IS THE ROADMAP.

IT VIRTUALLY BECOMES THEIR JOB DESCRIPTION IN A LARGE WAY FOR WHAT YOU WANT ACCOMPLISH HERE IN THE COUNTY.

SO IT'S VERY USEFUL FOR EVERYBODY.

>> YEARS AGO, I THINK IT WAS IN ABOUT 2004, WE WERE DOING THIS IN NASHVILLE.

AND IN NASHVILLE, EVERY DEPARTMENT HAD ONE OF THESE.

AND I'LL NEVER FORGET WE DID A STRATEGIC PLAN WITH OUR PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT.

AND THEY HAD STRATEGIC GOALS, JUST LIKE YOU'RE CREATING, BUT SPECIFIC TO THEIR DEPARTMENT.

AND THEY CREATED THEIR PLAN AND THEN THEY GOT BACK TO WORK, JUST LIKE WE ALL GET.

THEY WENT HEADS DOWN AND THEY STARTED FILLING IN POTHOLES AND FIXING ROADS AND DOING ALL THE STUFF THAT THEY DO.

AND THEN ABOUT THREE YEARS LATER, BILLY LYNCH, GENTLEMAN'S DEPARTMENT DIRECTOR'S NAME, I'LL NEVER FORGET IT, IS SITTING IN FRONT OF THE NASHVILLE 45 MEMBER METRO COUNCIL.

THAT DOESN'T MAKE YOU GO, "HO," RIGHT? AND ONE OF THE COUNCIL MEMBERS SAYS, BILLY.

I NOTICED YOU HAD ONE OF YOUR GOALS COMING DUE.

HOW YOU DOING? AND YOU CAN JUST WATCH THE BLOOD DRAIN FROM HIS BODY.

BECAUSE HE HAD CREATED THESE GOALS AND THEN JUST WENT BACK TO WORK.

AND THERE WAS THIS ASSUMPTION, I GUESS THAT THE GOALS WOULD JUST COMPLETE THEMSELVES.

SO THAT'S THE REASON WHY WE DO THE IMPLEMENTATION PLANNING AFTER WE DEVELOPED THE STRATEGIC GOALS IN THIS PARTICULAR PROCESS.

SO THAT'S ALWAYS A FUN STORY.

I LIKE TO I ALWAYS JOKED WITH BILLY ABOUT THAT.

SO JUST A LITTLE BIT ABOUT US.

WELL, MARV AND I JUMP IN AND OUT ALL THE TIME.

BUT AGAIN, WE'VE BEEN AROUND SINCE 1998.

MARV STARTED THE ORGANIZATION IN '98.

OUR FIRST CUSTOMER WAS THE CITY OF AUSTIN.

ACTUALLY, IT WAS THE CITY OF AUSTIN FIRE DEPARTMENT.

AND THEN WE WENT AND WE WORKED WITH THEIR DEPARTMENTS AND WE WENT TO MARICOPA, AND, YOU KNOW, WE WENT TO PANA, LONG BEACH AND VEGAS, AND A LOT OF BIG PLACES, A LOT OF SMALL PLACES.

MARV'S COMMUNITY WHERE HE JUST MOVED FROM HAS MORE ELK THAN PEOPLE.

AND THEY'VE BEEN DOING THIS SINCE 2008.

AND YOU CAN FIND HIM EXCEPT WHEN IT'S TING SEASON. RIGHT.

>> [LAUGHTER]

>> AND, SO I SAY THAT TO YOU.

YOU DO NOT HAVE TO BE A PARTICULAR SHAPE, SIZE, BIG, SMALL JURISDICTION TO GO THROUGH THIS PROCESS.

WE WERE IN CANNON BEACH, OREGON, WHICH IS WHERE THEY FILMED THE GOONIES.

IF ANYBODY'S A GOONEY PERSON, RIGHT? ASHLAND, WISCONSIN, GALESBURG, ILLINOIS.

AND THEN AGAIN, BIG PLACES, YOU KNOW, MARICOPA COUNTY, YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE OTHER BIG PLACES.

CHESTER COUNTY. I WAS TALKING TO CHESTER COUNTY PENNSYLVANIA, PENNSYLVANIA.

SO YOU DON'T HAVE TO BE BIG, SMALL.

THE IDEA IS JUST, ARE YOU FOCUSED ON THE RESULTS.

YOU FOCUSED ON YOUR CUSTOMER.

AGAIN, WE'VE WORKED WITH A LOT OF JURISDICTIONS, A LOT OF DEPARTMENTS, OF THE THINGS WE LIKE TO DO AS PART OF THIS PROCESS, AND I THINK YOU'LL SEE IT COME ALONG LATER IN THE IMPLEMENTATION IS IF YOU SET FORTH A GOAL OR A RESULT, ALL RESULTS ARE NOT FREE.

I'M GOING TO SAY THAT AGAIN, A RESULTS ARE NOT FREE.

SOMETIMES YOU HAVE TO FUND THE RESULTS THAT YOU WANT TO INFLUENCE AS A JURISDICTION.

AND SO AS WE GO THROUGH THIS PROCESS, I THINK I JUST SAW THE FINANCE DIRECTOR PASS OUT BACK THERE.

I USED TO WORK IN FINANCE. SO I KNOW WHAT YOU'RE SAYING.

BUT SOMETIMES AS YOU GO THROUGH THIS PROCESS, DEPENDING ON WHEN A GOAL IS COMES DUE, THERE MIGHT BE PART OF THE IMPLEMENTATION WHERE YOU HAVE TO PUT IN A BUDGET MODIFICATION REQUEST BECAUSE YOU MIGHT NEED SOMETHING IN ORDER TO ACHIEVE THE GOAL THAT THE BOARD SAYS THEY WANT TO ACHIEVE.

WHAT THAT MEANS IS THAT COME BUDGET TIME, THE BOARD HAS TO TALK THE TALK AND ALSO WALK THE WALK.

AND THAT'S WHERE IT BECOMES A LITTLE BIT OF A DICEY THING.

"HEY, I WANT THIS RESULT.".

"OKAY YOU WILLING TO FUND THAT FTE? YOU WILLING TO DO THIS?" SO I SAY THAT TO YOU BECAUSE AGAIN, NOT EVERYTHING IS GOING TO BE JUST FREE OF CHARGE. WE KNOW THAT, RIGHT? SO WE LIKE TO IN A LOT OF OUR JURISDICTIONS, ALIGNING RESOURCES TO THE RESULTS THAT THEY'RE TRYING TO ACHIEVE IS IMPORTANT.

IT'S GOOD TO MAKE THAT CONNECTION. ALL RIGHT? WE REALLY FOCUS ON CUSTOMERS HERE.

YOU KNOW, SOMETIMES I DON'T KNOW WHAT IT'S LIKE IN YAVAPAI COUNTY, BUT I LIVE IN EASTERN TENNESSEE, AND FOLKS GET A LITTLE BIT DISENFRANCHISED WITH GOVERNMENT TALKING ABOUT WHAT GOVERNMENT DOES.

OH, I'M GOING TO GO CREATE THIS PLAN.

OR I'M GOING TO GO DO THIS.

AND THE QUESTION YOU GET A LOT OF TIMES IS, "SO WHAT? THAT'S JUST YOU TALKING ABOUT SPENDING MY MONEY," RIGHT? AND PART OF THE CHALLENGE IS, IT'S BECAUSE THEY'VE JUST TALKED ABOUT THEMSELVES RATHER THAN SAYING, "BY A CERTAIN DATE, RESIDENTS WILL BE ABLE TO EXPERIENCE THIS," RIGHT? OR, "BY A CERTAIN DATE, OUR CUSTOMERS ARE GOING TO GET THIS." SO WHEN THEY PICK UP YOUR PLAN, RATHER THAN THE COUNTY TALKING ABOUT WHAT THE COUNTY DOES.

WE HOPE THIS PLAN TALKS ABOUT THE COUNTY A PLAN ABOUT SAYING WHAT YOUR COMMUNITY IS GOING TO

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GET AS A CONSEQUENCE OF SOME OF THE THINGS THAT YOU DO.

>> IF YOU THINK ABOUT THAT AS PART OF THE STORY TELLING, RIGHT? WHAT IS THE STORY THE GOVERNMENT WISHES TO TELL? I WILL TELL YOU THAT GENERALLY, THIS IS A BROAD BRUSH, BUT I JUST SAY THAT GENERALLY GOVERNMENT ORGANIZATIONS.

TYLER KNOWS WHAT I'M GOING TO SAY.

GENERALLY, GOVERNMENT ORGANIZATIONS ABSOLUTELY SUCK AT TELLING THEIR OWN STORY.

AND THERE'S A FUNDAMENTAL REASON FOR THAT.

IT'S JUST WHAT JEREMY WAS JUST TALKING ABOUT.

THE STORY THAT GOVERNMENT TELLS IS ALMOST ALWAYS HOW MUCH OF PEOPLE'S MONEY HAS BEEN SPENT AND WHAT THEY DID, RATHER THAN WHAT DIFFERENCE DID THEY MAKE.

SO AN ORGANIZATION, WHATEVER ORGANIZATION, WHETHER IT'S A BUSINESS OR NOT FOR PROFIT, OR A GOVERNMENT ORGANIZATION, PRIVATE OR OTHERWISE, WHEN THE STORY IS ABOUT THEM, IT'S ONLY COMPELLING TO THEM.

WHEN LOCAL GOVERNMENT, AND YOU GUYS CAN BE REALLY GOOD AT THIS.

THIS IS PARTLY WHY WE WORK WITH LOCAL GOVERNMENTS BECAUSE YOU ACTUALLY KNOW WHO YOUR CUSTOMER IS, AND YOU MEET HIM IN THE GROCERY STORE, RIGHT? IF YOU CAN TELL A STORY ABOUT YOUR CUSTOMER, THAT'S COMPELLING TO YOUR CUSTOMER, RIGHT? IF AN ORGANIZATION IS JUST TALKING ABOUT ITSELF, AFTER A WHILE, PEOPLE STOP LISTENING AND NOBODY CARES.

AND THAT'S SO FUNDAMENTAL TO GOVERNMENT BEING ABLE TO TELL THEIR STORY, YOUR STORY IN TERMS OF IMPACT THAT YOU HAVE, THE DIFFERENCE THAT YOU'RE MAKING IN PEOPLE'S LIVES.

ALL RIGHT. SO WE'LL TRY TO MAKE SURE THAT THIS PLAN HELP YOU WRITE A PLAN THAT SPEAKS TO YOUR CUSTOMER, NOT JUST ABOUT THE COUNTY ITSELF.

>> AND YOU'LL HEAR US SAY THAT A LOT THROUGHOUT THE NEXT COUPLE OF DAYS.

IT'S ABOUT TELLING YOUR STORY, BECAUSE IF YOU'RE NOT TELLING IT, SOMEBODY ELSE IS TELLING IT FOR YOU.

AND YOU PROBABLY SEE THAT.

I DON'T KNOW IF ALL HAVE SOCIAL MEDIA HERE.

RADIO STATIONS, PODCASTS, RIGHT?

>> THIS BOOK.

>> BUT AGAIN, IF YOU'RE NOT TELLING IT, IN NASHVILLE, THEY USED TO SAY, IF YOU DON'T TELL YOUR STORY, IT'LL GET TOLD AT SIX O'CLOCK.

AND BACK THEN, WE ONLY HAD LIKE FOUR CHANNELS, A-B-C, C-B-S, M-B-C, AND FOX SOMETIMES, RIGHT? BUT THIS IS ABOUT YOU TELLING THE STORY OF THE GOOD THINGS THAT YOU'RE DOING OR THE GOOD THINGS YOU'RE ACHIEVING? BECAUSE I'M GOING TO TELL YOU, WE DON'T COME TO PLACES BECAUSE THEY'RE BAD PLACES.

WE'RE NOT DOING THIS PLAN BECAUSE YOU'RE A BAD JURISDICTION.

TO THE CONTRARY.

>> CONTRARY.

>> BUT WHILE WE'RE DOING THIS IS TO INFLUENCE THE FUTURE THAT YOU WANT TO CREATE FOR THE COUNTY.

AND THAT'S A BIT AND YOU GOT TO TELL THAT BECAUSE FOLKS AREN'T JUST GOING TO AUTOMATICALLY SAY, "OH, YEAH, I KNOW WHAT THEY'RE DOING." OKAY? SO WHAT ARE WE GOING TO DO THE NEXT COUPLE OF DAYS? WE'RE GOING TO DETERMINE THE DIRECTION OF THE COUNTY FOR THE NEXT TWO TO FIVE YEARS AT A HIGH LEVEL, RIGHT? WHAT DIRECTION IS THE SHIP SAILING HERE? WE'RE GOING TO AGREE ON A LIST OF CHAPTER HEADINGS.

THOSE ARE THE PRIORITY AREAS, THEMES, UMBRELLAS, WHATEVER YOU WANT TO CALL THEM, RIGHT? BIG FOCUS AREAS.

AND THEN UNDER EACH OF THOSE, DEVELOP A FEW MEASURABLE STRATEGIC RESULTS OR GOALS.

AND AGAIN, I JUST I WANT TO CAUTION US AS WE GO THROUGH THIS PROCESS NOT TO GET TOO CARRIED AWAY WITH IT.

WE'VE BEEN IN A LOT OF THESE WHERE SOMEBODY WILL SAY, "GOSH, WE'RE GETTING ON A ROLL," RIGHT? LET'S JUST ADD THIS ONE AND ADD THIS ONE.

THE QUESTION IS, WHAT RISES TO THE LEVEL THAT NEEDS TO BE IN THIS PLAN VERSUS IT BEING NOT AN OPERATIONAL RESULT, THAT'S ALREADY BEING MEASURED PROBABLY BY ONE OF YOUR COUNTY DEPARTMENTS.

>> I MEAN, THE WATCHWORD IS THAT YOU CAN'T ACCOMPLISH EVERYTHING, BUT YOU CAN ACCOMPLISH SOME THINGS.

AND IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT TO KEEP THE NUMBER MANAGEABLE.

>> THESE ARE NOT BUDGET SESSIONS, RIGHT? BUT THEY WILL GUIDE FUTURE BUDGET DECISIONS.

WE JUST CAME OUT OF CLACKAMAS COUNTY, OREGON.

I WAS TALKING TO MARV AT BREAKFAST FROM WE WERE STANDING UP AT THE SPRINGHILL SUITE, RIGHT THERE NEXT TO THE SPROUTS.

YOU KNOW WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT? BY THE WAY, I LOVE SPROUTS.

WE DON'T HAVE THAT IN MARYVILLE.

I SPEND A LOT OF MONEY WHEN I COME HERE IN SPROUTS, TAKING THAT STUFF BACK ON.

ANYWAY, WE JUST LEFT CLACKAMAS COUNTY, OREGON, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THEIR PLAN.

WE'RE GOING TO GO BACK AND HELP THEM IN ABOUT SIX MONTHS.

AND I SAID, WHAT DO YOU THINK IS THE KEY TO SUCCESS? AND ONE OF THE KEYS IS THAT IDEA OF WHEN IT COMES BUDGET TIME.

AND THAT GOAL THAT THEY CREATED NEEDS TO ASK FOR A LET'S JUST SAY SOMEBODY TO COME IN AND DESIGN A NEW JAIL, RIGHT? YOU KNOW, IS THE BOARD GOING TO SAY, YEAH, WE'RE GOING TO SPEND THAT MONEY BECAUSE WE SAID THAT JAIL WAS IMPORTANT.

SO THESE THINGS LEAD TO FUTURE DECISIONS THAT YOU AS AN ELECTED BODY WILL HAVE TO MAKE OR NOT MAKE.

RIGHT? SOME GUIDANCE.

I'M NOT GOING TO READ THIS.

BUT WHAT WE NEED YOU TO DO, BOARD IS PARTICIPATE.

WE NEED YOU THERE'S NOTHING HARDER THAN FACILITATING A GROUP THAT DOESN'T WANT TO SAY ANYTHING.

NOW I DON'T THINK WE'RE GOING TO HAVE THAT PROBLEM HERE. RIGHT?

>> [LAUGHTER]

>> RIGHT? AND HONESTLY, I DON'T THINK WE'VE EVER HAD THAT.

>> I TOLD YOU [INAUDIBLE].

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>> BUT ALSO COLLABORATE, MAKE DECISIONS TOGETHER.

YOU KNOW, YOU MAY HAVE SOME THINGS THAT YOU MAKE DECISIONS ON.

ONE PERSON SAYS, "YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT MY FAVORITE, BUT CAN I GET IT." WE'LL COME TO CONSENSUS ON THAT.

BUT WORK TOGETHER, MAKE DECISIONS.

>> AND EVERYBODY, THAT'S WHY WE DON'T HAVE VOTES HERE, RIGHT? IN A STRATEGIC PLAN, IF THERE ARE VOTES, SOME PEOPLE WILL LOSE, SOME PEOPLE WILL WIN.

THIS IS NOT ABOUT THAT. THIS WHOLE PROCESS IS BUILT ON CONSENSUS.

SO WE DON'T TAKE VOTES. OKAY?

>> OUR JOB AS YOUR AND I DON'T EVEN LIKE THE WORK CONSULTANTS, BUT AS YOUR CONSULTANTS, I'LL SAY AS YOUR PARTNERS IN THIS, IS TO JUMP IN AND WORK RIGHT ALONGSIDE OF YOU TO GET US THROUGH THIS PROCESS WITH A QUALITY PRODUCT, KEEP US OUT OF THE DITCH.

SOMETIMES WE'LL GO IN THE DITCH, AND FOLKS WILL BE TALKING ABOUT SOME REALLY DETAILED THINGS, AND THAT THERE'S ROOM FOR THAT, BUT WE MAY PULL YOU BACK IN.

SOMETIMES BECAUSE WE'RE NOT YOU, WE MAY PLAY A LITTLE DEVIL'S ADVOCATE.

WE MIGHT BE A LITTLE CRAZY LIKE A FOX, AS WE SAY IN THE SOUTH.

JUDGE SAY ONE NOW.

WHY DID YOU SAY THAT AGAIN? WHY DO YOU'LL DO IT THAT WAY? I SAY THAT. WE'RE JUST DOING OUR JOB, AND WE'RE 110% BEHIND YOU IN THIS.

BUT WE WANT TO ASK SOMETIMES THOSE DEVIL'S ADVOCATE QUESTIONS BECAUSE CHANCES ARE SOMEBODY ELSE IS ASKING THEM TOO.

WE DON'T CREATE THE PLAN.

BUT WE SHARE THE RESPONSIBILITY AND THE QUALITY OF IT.

WE OFTEN SAY, I WISH THE BOARD HAD GONE THERE, OR I WISH THEY WOULD HAVE GONE BUT IT'S NOT OUR PLAN, BUT WE'LL PUSH YOU TO THE EXTENT THAT WE CAN TO GET YOU TO RESULTS.

JUST SOME FACTORS HERE, AND I'M GOING TO TURN IT BACK OVER TO YOU HERE IN A SECOND MARV.

WE'RE GOING TO GO FAST AND FOCUS.

WE'VE GOT A LOT OF STUFF TO TALK ABOUT.

FORGIVE US BECAUSE WE'RE GOING TO GO FAST IN SOME AREAS, AND WE'RE GOING TO ASK YOU NOT TO THINK ABOUT THINGS TOO DETAILED IN CERTAIN PARTS OF THIS.

WE'RE GOING TO TAKE BREAKS SO I THINK TYLER AND THE CHAIRS ALREADY TALKED ABOUT THE CELL PHONES TO THE EXTENT POSSIBLE, TRY NOT TO DO THAT.

WE WANT TO TRY TO STAY OUT OF THE WEEDS SO WE'RE GOING TO GET IN THE WEEDS.

I KNOW WE DO. WE ALWAYS DO.

BUT HERE'S THE THING ABOUT THIS PLAN, AND I DON'T WANT TO SAY ANYTHING OUT OF TURN HERE, BUT WE WANT YOU AS A BOARD FOCUSED ON POLICY.

FOCUSED ON STRATEGIC RESULTS, YOU GOT A BUNCH OF PROFESSIONALS BACK HERE THAT DO THE OPERATIONS.

YOU GOT THREE COUNTY ADMIN FOLKS RIGHT HERE.

WE WORK IN A LOT OF PLACES, DON'T HAVE THAT.

WE WANT YOU FOCUSED ON THE HIGH LEVEL, AND THEN ALLOWING YOUR DEPARTMENTS TO DO THE GREAT WORK THAT THEY ALREADY DO. NOW, IS THAT EASY? NO. I'VE NEVER WORKED IN A JURISDICTION WHERE THERE WASN'T A COUPLE OF FOLKS THAT WANTED TO DIVE IN.

BUT I WILL TELL YOU, TO THE EXTENT THAT YOU GUYS CAN STAY FOCUSED ON THE HIGH LEVEL, THAT'LL MAKE IT WORK.

MAKING DECISIONS.

THAT'S WHAT WE TALKED ABOUT EARLIER.

THERE WILL BE SOME THINGS WHERE IT'S GOING TO BE YOUR BABY.

I DON'T KNOW WHAT THOSE TOPICS ARE. YOU KNOW WHAT THEY ARE.

BUT IF SOMEBODY ELSE HAS A DIFFERENT IDEA, AND IT'S LEGITIMATE, AND YOU SAID, WELL, I DON'T KNOW IF I LIKE THAT OR NOT, BUT I CAN LIVE WITH IT BECAUSE IT'S IMPORTANT TO CONSENSUS AND GETTING THINGS DONE. MARV.

>> SURE. [NOISE] I WORKED IN IOWA STATE GOVERNMENT FOR 20 YEARS, AND I LEARNED THREE THINGS. BEST I COULD DO.

THE FIRST THING I LEARNED IS THAT IF GOVERNMENT ACTUALLY FOCUSES ON RESULT, THE CHANCES OF SUCCESS GO WAY UP.

IF THE FOCUS IS SOLELY ON PROCESS, SOLELY ON POLITICS, THE CHANCES OF SUCCESS ARE DIMINISHED.

THE IDEA IS TO GET FOCUSED ON RESULTS AND STAY FOCUSED ON THEM.

THAT CAME FROM 10 YEARS OF RUNNING THE REFUGEE RESETTLEMENT PROGRAM IN IOWA, WHERE WE FOCUS ON ECONOMIC SELF SUFFICIENCY, SOCIAL SELF RELIANCE, AND FAMILY STRENGTH.

THOSE ARE THE ONLY THINGS WE FOCUSED ON.

IF IT FELL OUTSIDE ONE OF THOSE PRIORITIES, WE DIDN'T DO IT.

WE WERE NAMED THE MOST SUCCESSFUL REFUGEE RESETTLEMENT PROGRAM IN THE COUNTRY BY US STATE DEPARTMENT.

BECAUSE 98% OF OUR HEADS OF HOUSEHOLD WERE ECONOMICALLY SELF SUFFICIENT IN THE FIRST SIX MONTHS.

THAT WAS OVER 10 YEARS.

SECOND THING I LEARNED WAS, YOU GOT TO FOCUS ON THE RIGHT RESULT.

IN MY NEXT JOB, I WAS ASKED TO RUN WELFARE REFORM.

WE STARTED OUT WITH THE GOAL OF HELPING PEOPLE GET OUT OF THE WELFARE SYSTEM.

WELL, THAT CAN BE HANDLED LIKE GRINDING PEOPLE'S BENEFITS DOWN TO THE POINT THAT THEY DON'T MATTER OR PUTTING PEOPLE ON BUSES AND SENDING THEM TO CALIFORNIA.

ALL KINDS OF WEIRD THINGS CAME UP, ABOUT GETTING PEOPLE OUT OF THE WELFARE SYSTEM.

WELL, WE JUST PUT THE BRAKES ON THAT WHOLE DEVELOPMENT PROCESS AND DECIDED THAT THAT WAS THE WRONG RESULT.

THE RIGHT RESULT WAS HELPING PEOPLE GET OUT OF POVERTY AND RECONNECT WITH THEIR COMMUNITY.

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WHEN WE GOT FOCUSED ON THE RIGHT RESULT, THEN EVERYTHING FELL IN PLACE, AND WE DEVELOPED A TREMENDOUS NUMBER OF STRATEGIES THAT WERE VERY SUCCESSFUL IN HELPING PEOPLE GET OUT OF POVERTY.

THE THIRD THING I LEARNED, I WAS THE DIRECTOR OF POLICY AND STRATEGIC PLANNING FOR THE STATE AT THAT POINT.

WHAT I FOUND WAS THAT IF GOVERNMENT FOCUSES EVERYTHING IT DOES ON RESULTS, YOUR CHANCES OF SUCCESS GO AWAY.

I'LL SHOW YOU WHAT I MEAN IN THE NEXT SLIDE.

WHAT HAPPENS HERE IS HOW DO WE THINK ABOUT THIS? HOW DO WE THINK ABOUT STRATEGIC PLANNING? DO WE START WITH HOW MUCH MONEY WE ALREADY HAVE? WELL, IF YOU DO THAT, YOU WON'T DEVELOP ANYTHING NEW.

YOU'LL BE STYMIED. IF WE THINK ABOUT, WELL, WHAT SERVICES DO WE PROVIDE AND THEN FIGURE OUT WHO THE CUSTOMER IS, THAT'S BACKWARDS.

BECAUSE YOU MAY FIND THAT YOU CAN ACHIEVE GREATER RESULTS THAN YOU'VE EVER ACHIEVED BEFORE, IF YOU THINK ABOUT THEM DIFFERENTLY.

THE IDEA HERE IS TO START WITH THE CUSTOMER.

WHO'S THE CUSTOMER AND WHAT IS IT WE WANT THEM TO EXPERIENCE? IN WHATEVER AREA THAT MIGHT BE, WHATEVER YOU MIGHT BE TALKING ABOUT.

THEN TALK ABOUT, WELL, WHAT SERVICES COULD WE PROVIDE OR PARTNERSHIP WITH OTHERS TO PROVIDE THAT MIGHT HELP OUR CUSTOMER ACHIEVE THAT RESULT MORE QUICKLY, IF WE DO IT THIS WAY RATHER THAN THAT WAY? THEN IT'S ALSO IMPORTANT TO KNOW WHAT THE LEVEL OF DEMAND IS.

WE WORK IN A COUNTY IN VIRGINIA THAT FOUND OUT TWO YEARS AGO IN 2023, THAT THEIR POPULATION HAD GROWN TO WHAT HAD BEEN PROJECTED FOR 2045.

SURPRISE SURPRISE. BEING ABLE TO TRACK AND PROJECT DEMAND TO HELP YOU ACHIEVE THESE RESULTS IS VERY IMPORTANT.

HOW MANY PEOPLE WILL BE INVOLVED IN THE GOAL THAT YOU'RE TRYING TO ACHIEVE? WHICH COMMUNITIES WILL BE MOST IMPACTED? WHERE IS THE DEMAND FOR THIS? TO MAKE SURE YOU STAY FOCUSED ON WHERE THE DEMAND IS.

THEN LASTLY, WHAT DOES IT COST, AND HOW DO WE PAY FOR IT? WE DON'T START WITH MONEY EVER.

THIS IS STRATEGIC PLAN, SO WE'RE GOING TO FOCUS ON WHO YOUR CUSTOMERS ARE AND WHAT ISSUES ARE THEY FACING. THANKS, JEREMY.

>> I WANT TO TALK ABOUT THIS PROCESS.

YOU MAY HAVE SEEN THINGS LIKE THIS BEFORE.

I REMEMBER SEEING THIS FOR THE FIRST DAY I EVER GOT A I'D SAY, A REAL JOB OUTSIDE OF FARMING WHEN I JOINED METRO NASHVILLE, AND I THOUGHT, WHAT IS THIS THING.

WHAT IS THIS? WE CALL THIS THE MFR CYCLE.

I USED TO JOKE AND MARV USED TO GET IRRITATED AT ME.

I CALL IT THE FUNKY DONUT SOMETIMES.

BUT THE IDEA HERE IS JUST TO SHOW HOW EVERYTHING THAT WE'RE DOING FITS TOGETHER.

WE'RE UP AT THE TOP RIGHT NOW, AND WE'RE PLANNING FOR RESULTS, AND I REALLY WANT TO STRESS THE RESULTS PART.

WE DON'T WANT TO CREATE STATEMENTS OF GOOD INTENTION.

HEY, WE'RE GOING TO DO OUR BEST.

I KNOW THE SHERIFF WAS IN HERE A WHILE AGO, BUT SOMETIMES WE'LL SEE SOMETHING.

WE'RE GOING TO WORK TO BE THE BEST WE CAN BE IN LAW ENFORCEMENT.

WELL, I DON'T KNOW THAT THERE'S A COMMUNITY I'VE EVER MET THAT DIDN'T WANT THAT.

THAT'S JUST A STATEMENT OF GOOD INTENT.

HOW DO YOU KNOW IF YOU'VE GOTTEN THERE.

THAT'S THE EASIEST THING IN THE WORLD WHEN A FINANCE DIRECTOR SAYS, TELL ME HOW ARE YOU DOING ON THAT GOAL RELATED TO LAW? WELL, WE'RE WORKING HARD. MAN SAY THAT EVERY TIME.

THERE'S NO BEGINNING OR END.

THERE'S NO DEFINITION OF SUCCESS.

THIS IS REALLY ABOUT RESULTS.

YOU'VE GOT TO BE ABLE TO SAY, WE'RE DOING THIS.

WE'VE ACHIEVED THIS.

IT DOES NOT WORK WITHOUT YOUR PEOPLE. I GIVE YOU CREDIT.

YOU'VE GOT YOUR DEPARTMENT DIRECTORS HERE, AND I KNOW SOME OF YOU ALL ARE SITTING BACK THERE GOING, OH, MY GOSH, I GOT SO MUCH STUFF IN MY EMAILS ARE JUST [NOISE] THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE.

THERE'S VALUE IN IT BECAUSE YOU ALL ARE THE ONES AND YOUR FOLKS ARE THE ONES THAT ARE GOING TO IMPLEMENT THE STRATEGIC GOALS THAT YOUR BOARD DEVELOPS TODAY AND TOMORROW.

CREDIT TO THE COUNTY FOR INVITING YOU MAY NOT SEEM THAT WAY, SOMETIMES.

BECAUSE YOU ARE BUSY FOLKS JUST LIKE THE REST OF US.

BUT IT IS VALUABLE FOR YOU TO BE HERE.

THE RESULTS DON'T GET ACHIEVED WITHOUT YOUR PEOPLE.

NUMBER 3, SOMETIMES YOU HAVE TO BUDGET FOR RESULTS.

AGAIN, GOING BACK TO THIS IDEA OF WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO FUND SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WE WANT PROBABLY AT SOME POINT IN TIME IN THE PROCESS.

NOW, THERE MAY BE SOME THINGS YOU COME UP WITH OR YOU CAN CHANGE YOUR PROCESS AND DO SOME THINGS AND MAKE IT HAPPEN.

BUT SOMETIMES YOU'VE GOT TO AS MY LATE PAPAL WOULD SAY, IT TAKES MONEY TO RIDE THE TRAIN.

YOU HAVE TO PAY FOR THE RESULTS THAT YOU WANT.

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IT'S ABOUT COLLECTING INFORMATION.

I DON'T KNOW IF ANYBODY HAS EXPERIENCED THIS PERSONALLY OR DONE THIS PERSONALLY. I'VE DONE BOTH.

LET'S SAY YOU NEED SOMEBODY IN YOUR DEPARTMENT OR YOUR AREA, AND YOU GO AND YOU SAY, HEY, I NEED ANOTHER FTE. WELL, WHY? WELL, BECAUSE TYLER'S JUST WORKING AS HARD AS HE CAN WORK, AND WE NEED SOMEBODY ELSE.

WELL, I SUSPECT ANOTHER DEPARTMENT'S DOING THE SAME THING WITH THEIR PERSON.

THE IDEA IS, WE'VE GOT TO COLLECT INFORMATION AND BE ABLE TO TALK ABOUT THIS OUTSIDE OF AN ANECDOTAL.

WE GOT TO PROVE THAT WE'RE DOING WHAT WE'RE SAY WE'RE DOING.

IT'S NOT GOOD ENOUGH ANYMORE JUST TO SAY, HEY, WE'RE WORKING HARD FOR YOU, THEY DON'T PLAY THAT GAME.

WE'VE GOT TO COLLECT INFORMATION AND BE ABLE TO REPORT BOTH INTERNALLY, BACK TO YOU ALL AS A BOARD ABOUT HERE'S WHAT WE'RE ACCOMPLISHING OF THE GOALS THAT YOU'VE SET FORTH, AND ALSO REPORT EXTERNALLY TO SAY, HEY, COMMUNITY, WE SAID WE WERE GOING TO DO THIS.

LET'S JUST SAY WE SAID WE'RE GOING TO DO THIS IN FOUR YEARS. WE'RE TWO YEARS OUT.

HERE'S WHERE WE'RE WORKING. WE'VE ACCOMPLISHED THIS.

WE'VE ACCOMPLISHED THAT, AND, BY THE WAY, MAYBE WE HAVE HIT A CHALLENGE HERE, BUT WE'RE STILL WORKING ON IT.

IT'S ABOUT REPORTING AND EVALUATING AND TELLING THOSE STORIES AND MAKING DECISIONS.

AS A BOARD, I KNOW THERE'S PROBABLY A LITTLE BIT OF FEAR SAYING, WELL, IF I CREATE THESE GOALS, AND IT'S GOING TO BE HARD FOR ME TO JUST LET THEM GO.

I'M A CONTROL FREAK.

I DON'T KNOW IF ANYBODY'S THAT WAY HERE OR NOT.

BUT WHAT I WILL TELL YOU IS THIS, PART OF THE CRITICAL NATURE OF THIS PROCESS IS YOU ALL AS A BOARD GETTING INFORMATION BACK FROM YOUR COUNTY ADMINISTRATION.

SAY, HERE'S WHERE WE ARE IN ALL OF THESE GOALS, AND, BY THE WAY, IN THIS ONE, WE'VE GOT A DECISION WE NEED FOR Y'ALL TO MAKE.

BECAUSE WITHOUT THE DECISION MAKING, THINGS DON'T GET ACHIEVED, AND AT SOME POINT, YOU'LL GET BACK TO THE PLANNING STAGE.

I MENTIONED EARLIER, THIS COUNTY THAT MARV LIVED IN FOR WELL, WHEN DID YOU MOVE UP THERE, 12?

>> TWELVE.

>> HE WAS THERE OVER 10 YEARS?

>> THAT'S RIGHT.

>> THEY'VE CREATED MAYBE EIGHT OR NINE STRATEGIC PLANS.

THE KEY ABOUT A STRATEGIC PLAN IS THAT IF YOUR STRATEGIC PLAN EXPIRES, THAT MEANS YOU WEREN'T STRATEGIC.

WE WANT YOU GUYS LEANING INTO THE FUTURE, AND IN TWO OR THREE YEARS, YOU SHOULD BE GETTING TOGETHER, WHETHER WITH US OR NOT, AND FILLING IN THE GAP, SAYING, HEY, IF WE ACCOMPLISH THESE TWO GOALS, WHAT ARE THE BIG ISSUES COMING DOWN THE PIKE THAT WE NEED TO ADD SOME STUFF IN THEIR PLACE? WHAT'S CHANGED? SO THAT YOU'RE NEVER AT A POINT WHERE YOU SAID OUR STRATEGIC PLAN EXPIRED TWO YEARS AGO.

WELL, THAT'S A BIG SIGNAL RIGHT THERE THAT YOU'RE NOT CONTINUOUSLY LOOKING INTO THE FUTURE.

>> WHEN YOU MEET AGAIN AND LOOK AT THIS AGAIN AND LOOK AT THE ISSUES AGAIN, THEN YOU CAN PUSH ANOTHER FIVE YEARS OUT INTO THE FUTURE.

SO IF YOU DID THIS IN 2027 OR 2028, THEN YOU WOULD LOOK OUT ANOTHER FIVE YEARS BEYOND THAT.

YOU CONTINUE TO MAKE DECISIONS WITHIN A FIVE PLUS YEAR HORIZON.

EVERYTHING THEN IS IN CONTEXT WITH WHAT YOUR PLANS ARE.

>> THINGS CHANGE FAST, DON'T THEY?

>> THEY SURE DO.

>> MARV WILL YOU TALK ABOUT THIS SLIDE?

>> GO AHEAD AND CLICK THEM. THE IDEA HERE IS THAT ALL PARTS OF THE ORGANIZATION WORK TOGETHER TO CREATE SUCCESS IN ACHIEVING YOUR STRATEGIC PLAN.

WHATEVER THAT GOAL IS, IT LANDS IN THE PLANS, IF YOU WILL, OF THE DEPARTMENTS THAT WILL BE WORKING ON THIS.

THEY'LL BE PART OF THE IMPLEMENTATION PLANNING, AND THEN, AS JEREMY SAID, IF SOMETHING IS A PRIORITY, YOU WILL SEE RESOURCES AND PEOPLE AND PARTNERSHIPS BEGIN TO MOVE IN THAT DIRECTION.

YOU HAVE ENDURING FUNCTIONS THAT THEY GO ON ALL THE TIME AND NEED TO GO ON AND ARE ESSENTIAL.

BUT IF SOMETHING IS A PRIORITY, YOU'LL SEE THAT MOVEMENT, AND THESE ARE MULTI YEAR GOALS, SO YOU HAVE MORE THAN ONE FISCAL YEAR, MAYBE EVEN ONE MORE OPPORTUNITY FOR HIRING THE RIGHT PEOPLE GOING FORWARD.

WHATEVER THAT MIGHT MEAN, WHATEVER IT TAKES TO ACHIEVE THAT GOAL, YOU HAVE TIME TO DO IT.

THESE ARE NOT GOING TO BE ONE OR TWO YEAR GOALS.

THEY'RE LONGER THAN THAT.

YOU'D ALSO SEE THEN ALL OF THE ADMINISTRATIVE INTERNAL FUNCTIONS ALSO BEGINNING TO TRACK HOW WE'RE DOING ON THAT GOAL.

SO YOU COULD TRACK HOW MUCH MONEY IS BUDGETED TOWARD A PARTICULAR ENDEAVOR.

ALSO, HOW FAST ARE WE SPENDING IT? YOU WOULD SEE THE ORGANIZATIONAL STRUCTURE ALSO BEGIN TO WRAP AROUND THE ACHIEVEMENT OF YOUR GOALS, WHICH IS WHAT JEREMY DESCRIBED AS HAPPENING WHEN WE AND THE DEPARTMENT DIRECTORS GET TOGETHER IN SEPTEMBER.

THE ORGANIZATION IS GOING TO WRAP AROUND THESE GOALS

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AND REALLY START FOCUSING ON THEM TO BETTER ENSURE SUCCESS.

THERE'S NO GUARANTEE OF SUCCESS ON A RESULT.

BUT TODAY AND TOMORROW, YOU'RE GOING TO IDENTIFY RESULTS THAT YOU BELIEVE THE COUNTY CAN ACTUALLY INFLUENCE IN A SIGNIFICANT WAY.

THEN YOU'D SEE DEPARTMENT DIRECTORS AND OTHERS REALLY ALIGNING PERFORMANCE WITH YOUR GUIDANCE, MAURY, AND THEN YOU'LL SEE IF THERE ARE CONTRACTS, FOR INSTANCE, THAT YOU LET FOR PROJECTS OR SERVICE DELIVERY, THAT THOSE CONTRACTS WOULD ALSO BE ALIGNED IN WRITING TO THE GOALS THAT YOU'RE WORKING ON.

THEN, OF COURSE, PERFORMANCE REPORTING IS WHEN MAURY CAN BRING BACK TO YOU REPORTS OF PROGRESS SO THAT YOU CAN SEE WHAT'S GOING ON, HELP RESOLVE ANY BARRIERS OR CREATE NEW PARTNERSHIPS IF THEY'RE NEEDED.

DOES THAT MAKE SENSE FOR MEMBERS?

>> HERE'S HOW WE BUDGET, RIGHT? TODAY, USUALLY WHAT WE START OUT WITH IS HOW MUCH MONEY DO WE HAVE THIS YEAR, AND HOW MUCH ARE WE GOING TO HAVE NEXT YEAR? IT'S A VERY FINANCIAL BASED INCREMENTAL PROCESS.

WHAT THIS DOES IS IT HELPS YOU IDENTIFY WHAT RESULTS FOR WHAT CUSTOMERS, THAT'LL BE IN YOUR PLAN.

AND THEN YOU CAN BEGIN LOOKING AT WHAT KIND OF SERVICES? WHAT DEPARTMENTS WILL NEED TO BE ALIGNED TO HELP YOU ACHIEVE THAT? THEN HOW MUCH MONEY DO WE NEED TO FIND OR ALLOCATE TO ACHIEVE A PARTICULAR GOAL? THAT WILL COME THROUGH IN THE BUDGET PRESENTATIONS THAT GET MADE NOW INTO THE FUTURE.

THAT YOU CAN REALLY ALIGN YOUR BUDGET TO THE PLAN ITSELF.

MAKES SENSE EVERYBODY? ALIGNING PEOPLE, RESOURCES, AND PARTNERSHIPS. CHAIRMAN.

>> ONCE YOU CREATE THIS PLAN AS WE'VE TALKED ABOUT, YOU GOT TO MANAGE IT.

THAT'S WHY WE DO THE IMPLEMENTATION PLANS.

AGAIN, THESE THINGS DON'T JUST GET ACCOMPLISHED BY THEMSELVES AND FRANKLY, WE HAD A GUY WHO WAS A MEMBER OF OUR TEAM THAT PROBABLY THE SMARTEST GUY IN PUBLIC FINANCE WE'VE EVER MET NAMED CHARLES CURRY.

I DON'T KNOW IF YOU REMEMBER HIM ZACH FROM MARICOPA.

BUT HE USED TO SAY IT CAN'T BE ALL CHICKEN, BUT THE GRAVY.

IT'S WHAT HE USED TO SAY AND I'D THINK ABOUT THAT FOR A MINUTE AND I'M A GRAVY GUY.

BUT YOU'RE GOING TO COME UP WITH GOALS OVER THE NEXT TWO DAYS, AND IT'S NOT ALL THE IMPLEMENTATION IS NOT GOING TO BE ROSY FROM DAY ONE TO FINISH.

THERE'S GOING TO BE CHALLENGES.

YOUR TEAM IS GOING TO SAY, HEY, WE NEED TO PLAN TO DO THIS.

THEY'RE GOING TO DO THAT, AND IT'S NOT GOING TO WORK OUT GREAT.

SO YOU GOT TO MANAGE AND IMPLEMENT THIS THING OVER TIME, AND THAT'S WHY WE HAVE THE IMPLEMENTATION PLANS.

THAT'S WHY IT'S IMPORTANT THAT AS WE GO ALONG IN THIS PROCESS, STARTING FROM TODAY, THAT OVER TIME, YOUR ADMINISTRATION REPORTS UP TO YOU, PROGRESS, CHALLENGES, DECISION POINTS THAT NEED TO BE MADE TO FURTHER THESE THINGS GOING FORWARD.

I'LL TELL YOU, IN OKLAHOMA CITY, THE RETIRED CITY MANAGER USED TO SAY, IN OKLAHOMA CITY, WE DELIVER WHAT WE PROMISE.

SO MY QUESTION TO YOU GOING FORWARD IS, IS YAVAPAI COUNTY COMING OUT OF THIS GOING TO DELIVER WHAT IT PROMISES? NOW, SOMETHING I'LL TELL YOU, YOU KNOW AS WELL AS I DO, THINGS HAPPEN SO YOU GOT TO EBB AND FLOW AND DO SOME THINGS LIKE THAT.

BUT THE QUESTION IS, ARE YOU GOING TO SET SOME THINGS IN PLACE AND WORK TOWARD THEIR ACHIEVEMENT? OR DO WE GO DOWN THE RABBIT HOLES EVERY WEEK? AND THAT'S HARD TO DO. THAT'S HARD TO DO.

IT'S ALSO ABOUT TELLING YOUR STORY ON I WOULD SAY AN ANNUAL BASIS.

YOUR COMMUNITY JUST DOESN'T AUTOMATICALLY KNOW THE GOOD THINGS THAT YOU'RE DOING, AND I'LL TELL YOU, I JUST KNOW ENOUGH TO BE DANGEROUS.

I'VE HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO WORK WITH ONE OF THE JURISDICTIONS IN YAVAPAI COUNTY.

I KNOW YOU'RE GOING TO DOING GOOD STUFF AT THE COUNTY.

QUESTION IS, DO FOLKS KNOW THAT? BECAUSE AGAIN, IF THEY DON'T KNOW THAT, THEY'RE GOING TO GO TO WHEREVER THEY GET THEIR INFORMATION, AND THEY'RE GOING TO TAKE THAT FOR THE GOSPEL.

THE QUESTION IS, ARE YOU TELLING YOUR STORY? AGAIN, I WOULD ENCOURAGE YOU TO TELL IT SO THAT NOBODY ELSE TELLS IT FOR YOU AND THAT'S HARD IN THIS ENVIRONMENT THAT WE LIVE IN NOW.

SO THE THREE PHASES OF OUR PROCESS, AND WE'RE GOING TO GET READY TO JUMP INTO OUR STAKEHOLDER INPUT IS REALLY THE INPUT AND PREPARATION STAGE? THAT'S WHAT'S TAKING US TO THIS POINT IN TIME, AND THAT'S THE CONVERSATION AND THE FOCUS GROUPS THAT WE'VE HAD.

IT'S SOME OTHER INFORMATION, THE SURVEY TYPE INFORMATION THAT YOU ALL SENT OUT OR ANOTHER FIRM DID FOR YOU, AND THAT'S BRINGING US TO THIS POINT IN TIME WHERE WE'RE DEVELOPING OUR PLAN.

ONCE WE DEVELOP OUR PLAN,

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THEN WE FIGURE OUT HOW WE'RE GOING TO IMPLEMENT IT.

THIS IS BREAKS EVERY RULE IN POWERPOINT, I KNOW, VERY BUSY, BUT I WANT TO SHOW YOU THE PROCESS.

OVER HERE ON THE SIDE IS WHERE WE LOOKED AT INFORMATION AND WE INTERVIEWED YOUR SUPERVISORS AND YOUR ADMINISTRATORS.

WE DID FOCUS GROUP WITH YOUR DEPARTMENT DIRECTORS AND YOUR CITY AND TOWN MANAGERS, AND WE'RE BRINGING ALL THAT TO BEAR HERE THIS MORNING.

OUR JOB IS TO SAY IN LOT OF THAT, HERE'S WHAT WE WANT OUR STRATEGIC PRIORITIES TO BE, AND WE'RE GOING TO DEVELOP A FEW GOALS UNDER EACH PRIORITY.

THEN, IN SEPTEMBER, WHEN MARV AND I COME BACK, WE'RE GOING TO SPEND A HALF A DAY WITH DEPARTMENTS THAT HAVE A DOG IN THE FIGHT FOR A PARTICULAR GOAL AND WE'RE GOING TO DEVELOPING STRATEGIES AND MY ACTION ITEMS AND MILESTONES.

WE'RE GOING TO IDENTIFY PARTNERSHIPS AND MAYBE TO THE EXTENT POSSIBLE, ANY REQUIRED RESOURCES THAT WE KNOW WE'RE GOING TO NEED TO ACHIEVE THE SUPERVISOR'S GOAL.

AGAIN, PREPPING US TO ACHIEVE THIS.

BECAUSE AS MUCH AS I LOVE DOING THESE THINGS, I KNOW THAT THIS IS ABOUT GETTING THINGS DONE.

I'M GOING BACK TO MARYVILLE ON WEDNESDAY MORNING.

AND SO WE WANT TO MAKE SURE YOU HAVE WHAT YOU NEED TO MOVE THIS THING FORWARD.

STAKEHOLDER INPUT.

NOW, AGAIN, YOU CAN BLAME ME.

I GET IT A LOT. WE'VE NOT HANDED YOU OUT ANYTHING YET, AND WE'RE GETTING READY TO. AND THAT'S OKAY.

AGAIN, I'M GOING TO MARYVILLE WEDNESDAY.

BUT THE IDEA IS, WE DIDN'T WANT YOU TO LOOK AT THIS BEFORE.

IT'S A LOT OF STUFF AND PART OF THE REASON WE DID THAT IS BECAUSE WE DON'T WANT YOU TO THINK ABOUT IT TOO.

WE DON'T WANT YOU TO DIVE IT INTO DETAIL.

WE WANT YOU AT A HIGHER LEVEL.

>> [INAUDIBLE].

>> THANK YOU SIR.

>> SURE [NOISE].

>> I'LL TELL YOU WHAT SLIDE WE'RE ON HERE.

>> AT LEAST I WILL.

>> I'M GOING TO START US ON SLIDE.

LET ME PUT ME PUT MY READERS ON HERE.

RIGHT NOW WE'RE ON SLIDE 19, PAGE 7.

AGAIN, AS WE GO THROUGH THIS, TYLER ALSO HAS A SOFT COPY OF THIS THAT HE CAN SEND YOU AFTER THE FACT.

BUT I'M GETTING READY TO GO THROUGH A DEAL OF INFORMATION, AND WHAT I WANT YOU TO DO TO THE EXTENT THAT YOU CAN IS I WANT YOU TO SIT BACK AND LISTEN.

AND HERE'S WHY. THERE'S A LOT OF COMMENTS IN THERE, AND THOSE COMMENTS ARE NOT MY COMMENTS, THEY'RE NOT MARVS COMMENTS. THEY'RE YOUR COMMENTS.

THEY'RE THE COMMENTS OF YOUR DEPARTMENT DIRECTORS, THEY'RE THE COMMENTS OF YOUR CITY AND TOWN MANAGERS.

AND BEYOND THE COMMENTS, I WANT YOU TO THINK ABOUT THE ALIGNMENT THAT YOU SEE EXISTING ACROSS ALL OF THOSE DIFFERENT GROUPS.

BECAUSE WHERE THERE IS ALIGNMENT, THAT'S THE POWER OF THE PROCESS.

THAT MEANS EVERYBODY'S THINKING SORT OF THE SAME THING ABOUT THE CHALLENGES.

IF WE GO INTO A JURISDICTION AND THERE'S NO ALIGNMENT FROM THE DEPARTMENT DIRECTORS TO THE SUPERVISORS, TO THE CONSTITUENTS, TO THE TOWN MANAGER, WE GOT PROBLEMS, AND I'M GOING TO TELL YOU IN ADVANCE, WE SAW A LOT OF ALIGNMENTS IN YAVAPAI COUNTY.

>> A LOT.

>> A LOT. AND SO THAT'S WHAT I WANT YOU TO THINK ABOUT.

THE LITTLE THING I'M GOING TO TELL YOU IS, THIS IS NOT ALL ROSY, GUYS.

SOMETIMES PEOPLE WILL SAY, WELL, JEREMY, WHY ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT ALL THE BAD STUFF? AND THE SIMPLE ANSWER THERE IS, THE GOOD STUFF IS NOT STUFF YOU NEED TO WORRY ABOUT.

IT'S THE CHALLENGES THAT YOU'RE FACING.

WHAT WE DON'T WANT TO DO IS GO THROUGH A PROCESS WHERE WE'RE TIPTOED TO THE DAISIES AND YOU COME OUT OF HERE WITH A BUNCH OF HIGH LEVEL STUFF THAT MEANS NOTHING.

WE WANT TO REALLY DIG INTO THE CHALLENGES YOU'RE FACING AND THEN YOU ALL DEVELOP SOME RESULTS TO ADDRESS THOSE.

THIS IS OUR STAKEHOLDER INPUT.

THIS IS THE PRIMARY QUESTION THAT WE ASKED EVERYBODY, AND THAT'S ALSO CRITICAL THAT WE'RE ASKING THE SAME QUESTION.

WHAT ARE THE MOST IMPORTANT ISSUES FACING RESIDENTS OF THE COUNTY AND THE COUNTY GOVERNMENT OVER THE NEXT 2-5 YEARS? WHAT ARE THE MOST IMPORTANT ISSUES? CHALLENGES? THIS FIRST GROUP I WANT TO READ YOU IS THE CITY AND TOWN MANAGERS.

MARV DID A FACILITATED FOCUS GROUP SESSION WHERE HE ASKED THAT QUESTION, AND HE GOT A LOT OF INPUT.

AGAIN, I'M GOING TO BREAK THE CRITICAL RULE OF POWERPOINT, AND I'M READING THESE.

I'M NOT PROVIDING COMMENTARY, AND WE'RE NOT STOPPING.

WE'RE JUST GOING, SO HERE WE GO.

HOUSING. CHINO VALLEY IS TRYING TO SET AN AGREEMENT FOR DENSITY IN PARTICULAR PLACES.

CHINO VALLEY HAS TO GROW ITS POPULATION AND NEEDS HOUSING TO DO IT.

PRESCOTT VALLEY. MAJORITY OF COUNCIL MEMBERS WANT GROWTH, A MINORITY DOES NOT WANT GROWTH.

NIMBIY'ISM IS KILLING HOUSING DEVELOPMENT.

SEDONA HAS A COMMUNICATION STAFF TO PROACTIVELY DEAL WITH NIMBIY'ISM.

NIMBIY'ISM, AND I HAD TO KIND OF LEARN THIS IS NOT IN MY BACKYARD.

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WE'VE ALL BEEN THERE. HEALTHCARE. HEALTHCARE IN VERDE VALLEY IS A SERIOUS ISSUE.

THE COUNTY'S NOT DOING ANYTHING.

MUNICIPALITIES WILL DRIVE THIS.

IF MY PRONUNCIATION IS ALL FORGIVE ME.

IN VERDE VALLEY, HEALTHCARE IS BROKEN.

THERE'S NO COMPETITION FOR CURRENT HEALTHCARE PROVIDER, NORTHERN ARIZONA HEALTHCARE.

WE NEED A SECOND FACILITY TO CREATE BETTER PERFORMANCE THROUGH COMPETITION.

WE DON'T HAVE QUALITY OR QUANTITY IN TERMS OF CARE.

HEALTHCARE COSTS ARE AT A VERY HIGH FIVE TIMES THAT OF PHOENIX, IN SOME CASES.

POTENTIAL CUTS IN MEDICAID WILL PUT HUGE PRESSURE ON HEALTHCARE HERE.

IT'S DIFFICULT TO RECRUIT PHYSICIANS.

ISSUES FOR FAMILIES INCLUDE COST OF LIVING, HOUSING, SCHOOLS, AND RECREATION.

IT'S NOW AN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT ISSUE.

PEOPLE NOW DECIDE WHERE THEY WANT TO LIVE AND THEN GET A JOB.

WE NEED TO BE A PLACE WHERE PEOPLE WANT TO BE.

QUESTION. HOW DO WE KEEP PHYSICIANS HERE IF THEY HAVE INTERNED HERE? THIS IS NOT A YOUNG PERSON'S TOWN.

WE COULD HAVE A COUNTY-WIDE INITIATIVE FOR HEALTHCARE RECRUITMENT.

WE NEED A TARGETED STRATEGY TO RECRUIT AND RETAIN DOCTORS.

ECONOMIC GROWTH, STRENGTH, DEVELOPMENT.

EACH CITY IS DIFFERENT IN TERMS OF TAXATION REGARDING DEVELOPMENT.

EACH CITY IS DIFFERENT IN TERMS OF THE RULES FOR DEVELOPMENT.

COUNTY'S LAND DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS ARE IMPORTANT, AND THE CITIES VERY MUCH APPRECIATE THE COUNTY'S UPDATE OF THE PLANNING AND ZONING CODES.

RECORDS SOMETIMES PROVIDES APPROVALS TO PROPERTY OWNERS THAT DID NOT GO THROUGH THE MUNICIPALITIES LAND USE PROCESS. ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.

CITIES ARE SOMEWHAT COMPETITIVE WITH THE COUNTY REGARDING ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.

REGARDING BIG ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT PROJECTS, WE NEED A BIG VISION, A UNIFIED VISION.

QUESTIONS. WHAT CAN THE REGION DO? HOW CAN WE KEEP BUSINESSES HERE? WHAT'S THE COUNTY ROLE? THE COUNTY CAN PROVIDE SUPPORT.

IS THE COUNTY GOING TO CREATE AN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT.

NO ONE IS FOLLOWING UP ON OPPORTUNITIES.

THERE'S A LACK OF COLLABORATION REGARDING ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.

WE NEED TO ALSO PLAN FOR DOWNTURNS.

LET'S SPREAD THE OPPORTUNITIES AROUND.

IF WE SUCCEED WITH BIG ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT PROJECT IN ONE PLACE, IT WILL BENEFIT US ALL.

MOST ELECTED OFFICIALS DO NOT WANT AMENITIES TO ATTRACT MORE PEOPLE.

INFRASTRUCTURE. SMALL JURISDICTIONS DO NOT HAVE THE POPULATION TO FUND THEIR OWN INFRASTRUCTURE.

THE COST OF INFRASTRUCTURE IS HIGH, AND MORE THAN THE POPULATION CAN AFFORD.

TO INFLUENCE THE LEGISLATURE, IT WOULD HELP A GREAT DEAL IF THE TOWNS AND THE COUNTY WOULD COLLABORATE.

PRESCOTT AND PRESCOTT VALLEY ARE WORKING TOGETHER.

LET'S SHARE RESOURCES AND COORDINATE OUR MESSAGES.

WE DON'T HAVE A LOBBYIST.

QUESTION, DOES THE COUNTY HAVE A LOBBYIST? INFRASTRUCTURE, SPECIFICALLY WATER.

REGULATION IS A HODGEPODGE OF FEDERAL AND STATE REGULATIONS.

LOCAL GOVERNMENTS DO NOT HAVE REGULATORY AUTHORITY, NEITHER CITIES NOR COUNTIES.

LEGISLATURE IS USING DIVIDE AND CONQUER STRATEGIES.

ONE SIZE DOES NOT FIT ALL, WASTEWATER ALSO.

MULTIPLE AGREEMENTS EXIST, CLARKDALE, WITH THE YAVAPAI-APACHE, STATE DEQ.

WATER INFRASTRUCTURE REVOLVING FUND IS A RESOURCE.

PRESCOTT ACTIVE MANAGEMENT AREA IS TAKING MORE THAN IS BEING REPLENISHED OR GOING IN.

THERE IS NO AMA ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE MOUNTAIN.

THE COUNTY IS PARTICIPATING BUT HAS NO AUTHORITY OVER WATER.

THE COUNTY'S ROLE CAN BE PART OF THE SOLUTION.

WE NEED THE COUNTY TO BE A FACILITATOR REGARDING WATER.

THE COUNTY NEEDS TO BE AT THE TABLE.

THE COUNTY DOES NOT HAVE EXPERTISE AROUND WATER.

COUNTY INVOLVEMENT MAY FEEL SOMEWHAT DANGEROUS FOR SOME COMMUNITIES ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE MOUNTAIN.

THERE'S SOME RESISTANCE TO THE COUNTY BECAUSE EACH CITY HAS AUTONOMY THAT MUST BE RESPECTED.

THE COUNTY CANNOT REALLY ENGAGE WATER AND HAS NO AUTHORITY.

THE COUNTY APPROVES DEVELOPMENTS FOR WELLS AND SEPTIC ONLY.

RESIDENTS ON WELL WATER ARE USING THE SAME AQUIFER AS PRESCOTT.

THAT'S EXAMPLE, GUYS, WHERE NOT EVERYBODY SAYS THE SAME THING.

THERE'S SOME DISAGREEMENT AMONGST YOUR CITY AND TOWN MANAGERS.

>> IT WAS A VERY INTERESTING CONVERSATION.

>> AMA REGARDING HOUSING IS CURRENTLY THE ONLY FACILITATOR.

NORTHERN ARIZONA MUNICIPAL WATER USER ASSOCIATION USED TO HAVE EXPERTISE.

NOW MEMBERS ARE YOUNGER AND LACK THE EXPERTISE.

A PREVIOUS COLLABORATION WENT AWAY AND MARICOPA, DEVELOPMENTS CAN ONLY HAPPEN NEAR CITIES.

WASTEWATER. SEDONA HAS FIGURED OUT WHAT TO DO WITH A FLUENT SPRAYING AND INJECTING INTO WELLS.

THE PROBLEM IS THAT THE PFA'S (FOREVER CHEMICALS) THAT ARE IN THE WASTEWATER BEFORE BEING INJECTED INTO WELLS.

GETTING TREATED WATER BACK INTO THE AQUIFER IS THE GOAL.

RECHARGE BASIN WILL USUALLY NOT MAKE IT BACK INTO THE AQUIFER, THOUGH IT WORKS IN SOME PLACES.

WE NEED A REGIONAL EFFORT TO GET A FLUENT BACK INTO THE DRINKING WATER SYSTEM.

THE LEGISLATURE HAS KILLED BILLS THAT WOULD GIVE MORE LOCAL CONTROL AND ROLE.

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ONE SIZE DOES NOT FIT ALL.

THE STATE HAS ABDICATED ITS ROLE, ALSO REGARDING WATER.

WE NEED A UNIFIED VOICE AND A CLEAR VISION FOR WATER AND WASTEWATER.

WE NEED ONE VOICE REGARDING EXCEPTIONS IN THE LAW.

WE NEED A REGIONAL EFFORT TO CLEAN EFFLUENT TO TURN IT BACK INTO DRINKING WATER.

ROADS, TRANSPORTATION AND TRAFFIC.

ADOT AND LEGISLATURE IS WHERE WE NEED TO COORDINATE OUR EFFORTS REGARDING HIGHWAY PROJECTS.

ADOT ADMINISTERS GRANTS FOR SMALL COMMUNITIES.

THE COUNTY COULD QUALIFY AS SELF CERTIFIED FOR SMALLER COMMUNITIES.

IF THAT WAS THE CASE, WE WOULD HAVE ALREADY STARTED SOME PROJECTS.

CAN THE COUNTY HELP WITH THE FUNDING FLOW? ON WEEKENDS, WE SEE LOTS OF PEOPLE.

WE HAVE THE VERDE VALLEY TRANSPORTATION MASTER PLAN.

THE VERDE VALLEY SIDE DOES NOT HAVE A REGIONAL TRANSPORTATION LIKE CYMPO WE HAVE THE CENTRAL YAVAPAI METRO PLANNING ORGANIZATION ON THE PRESCOTT SIDE.

WE HAVE A LACK OF REGIONAL TRANSPORTATION PLANNING.

QUESTION. WHAT ARE THE OPPORTUNITIES? ADOT IS HARD TO CHANGE, BUT IT IS IMPORTANT FOR CITIES TO OWN THE ROADS.

WE NEED THE TRANSPORTATION MASTER PLAN TO ANSWER WHO SHOULD IMPROVE THE ROADS WHEN MULTIPLE JURISDICTIONS HAVE RESPONSIBILITY.

CHINO VALLEY AND THE COUNTY ARE DISCUSSING HOW TO WORK TOGETHER ON MAINTAINING ROADS.

QUESTION. WHO OWNS A ROAD WHEN AN ACCIDENT OCCURS, AND THERE'S LAWSUITS?

>> PUBLIC SAFETY. PRESCOTT VALLEY HAS AN EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT POSITION.

THE COUNTY HAS STRONG EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT STAFF.

COUNTY EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT IS INSIDE PUBLIC WORKS.

QUESTION. WHERE SHOULD EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT BE LOCATED? QUESTION. SHOULD CITIES EXPAND THEIR EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT CAPACITY OR ENCOURAGE THE COUNTY TO EXPAND? THE EVACUATION PLANS ARE GOING WELL.

MANY COMMUNITIES DO NOT NEED A PERSON OR POSITIONS.

COMMUNITIES NEED TO PARTNER TOGETHER TO GAIN CAPACITY.

DISPATCH PUBLIC SAFETY.

COLLABORATION FOR A REGIONAL DISPATCH IS NEEDED TO CREATE A COORDINATED APPROACH.

WE CURRENTLY DON'T HAVE A COORDINATED APPROACH.

THERE ARE HUGE OPPORTUNITIES HERE.

THE COUNTY CAN FACILITATE CREATING A COORDINATED APPROACH.

ENVIRONMENT, WILDLIFE CORRIDORS AND PROTECTION.

GAME AND FISH HAS A MIGRATION STUDY.

PRESCOTT VALLEY REQUIRES A WILDLIFE STUDY.

SOLAR PROJECTS NEED WILDLIFE STUDIES.

THE COUNTY NEEDS A BROADER VISION FOR WILDLIFE.

THE COUNTY HAS TO BE AT THE TABLE AND LEAD THE WAY.

THIS ISSUE TIES TO GROWTH VERSUS NON GROWTH. GOOD GOVERNANCE.

FEDERAL FUNDING CUTS, CUTS TO THE US FOREST SERVICE, AND ALL THE REST OF THE CUTS ARE ROLLING DOWN ON THE LOCAL GOVERNMENTS.

GRANTS HAVE BEEN STOPPED, US FOREST SERVICE OPERATIONS ARE BEING AFFECTED.

WE SPENT ONE MILLION.

WILL WE BE REIMBURSED FOR SOME OF THESE THINGS.

THE STAFF WE WORK WITH AND THE FEDERAL AGENCIES ARE GONE.

AIRPORT FUNDING WILL SEE LESS MONEY.

FUNDING STREAMS MENTIONED THAT ARE LOSING MONEY INCLUDE AIRPORT, CDBG, TRANSIT FUND, BUREAU OF RECLAMATION, NCO, HEAD START, WORKFORCE, ETC GOOD GOVERNANCE.

LIBRARY SERVICES. CHINO VALLEY HAS A LIBRARY NETWORK.

CITIES ARE UNCLEAR ABOUT HOW THE FUNDING FOR LIBRARIES WORKS.

CITIES ARE SUBSIDIZING RURAL LIBRARIES.

THERE ARE SOME INSTANCES WHERE THE COUNTY PUSHES SERVICES TO THE CITIES TO PROVIDE LIBRARY SERVICES.

CITIES CAN PROVIDE LIBRARY SERVICES MORE EFFICIENTLY.

DISTRIBUTE THE TAX REVENUES TO THE CITIES.

>> GUYS, I JUST WANT TO SAY THAT THIS CONVERSATION WAS ALL OVER THE MAP.

THESE WERE A NUMBER OF VOICES THAT WERE SAYING THINGS THAT COULD BE IN CONFLICT WITH WHAT THE OTHER PERSON WAS SAYING IN TIME.

THESE TWO SLIDES, IN PARTICULAR ARE NOT THIS IS NOT ONE VOICE SPEAKING TO YOU ABOUT THIS ISSUE.

I WANTED YOU TO TAKE THAT INTO CONSIDER.

>> WE SHOULD NOT PROVIDE LIBRARY SERVICES IN REMOTE AREAS.

HAVE RURAL FOLKS TRAVEL TO THE CITIES FOR EXISTING LIBRARY SIR.

>> WE KNEW YOU'D LOVE THAT GOWN, MAN.

>> MORE LOCAL INFLUENCE REGARDING WHAT LIBRARY SERVICES ARE PROVIDED.

CITIES PAY FOR 80% OF THE TAXES AND RECEIVE LESS THAN 33% OF THE SERVICES.

FOR SOME SERVICES, IT'S BETTER FOR THE COUNTY TO PROVIDE.

>> JUST SO YOU KNOW THERE'S A REASON THAT WE NEVER ATTRIBUTE COMMENTS TO INDIVIDUAL.

BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT THE CONVERSATION WOULD THEN BE ABOUT.

WHO SAID WHAT? THAT'S NOT HELPFUL AND THAT'S NOT WHAT THIS DOES.

>> COUNTY MANAGER FORM OF GOVERNMENT.

CITIES REALLY APPRECIATE THE COUNTY MOVING TO A COUNTY MANAGER FORM OF GOVERNMENT.

IT MAKES COLLABORATION MUCH EASIER AND MORE EFFECTIVE.

ALIGNMENT OF DEPARTMENTS HEADS IS MUCH BETTER.

THERE'S MORE CONSISTENCY AND PREDICTABILITY.

THERE'S BETTER COLLABORATION.

COUNTY MANAGER CAN GET THINGS DONE, IT REMOVES THE POLITICS FROM THE OPERATIONAL DECISION.

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>> THAT WAS ONE VOICE.

>> RELATIONSHIP AND THE ROLE.

>> I WAS ALL THE TOWN OF CITY MANAGERS.

THEY WERE UNANIMOUS ABOUT ALMOST EVERYTHING THAT YOU SEE HERE, EXCEPT FOR LIBRARIES.

>> RELATIONSHIP AND ROLE OF THE COUNTY.

HOW THE COUNTY SHOWS UP TRULY IMPORTANT.

THE COUNTY CANNOT TELL MUNICIPALITY WHAT TO DO OR TRY TO CONTROL THEIR DECISIONS.

THE COUNTY CANNOT SAY THIS IS WHAT IS GOING TO HAPPEN.

THE COUNTY SHOULD SHOW UP ASKING, HOW CAN WE HELP? THE AUTONOMIES OF THE CITIES MUST BE RESPECTED.

THEY NEED LOCAL CONTROL, RELATIVE TO TAXATION, FOOD TAX.

STATE MAKES LAWS THAT RESTRICT LOCAL GOVERNMENT TAXATION DECISIONS.

WE ALL HAVE TO BE TOGETHER TO SPEAK WITH ONE VOICE REGARDING LOCAL CONTROL.

THE COUNTY CAN PROVIDE LEADERSHIP AND STRUCTURE FOR THE MAYOR MANAGER MEETINGS.

THE COUNTY STRATEGIC PLAN IS SIGNIFICANT.

IN CLARKDALE, THEIR PRIORITIES BECAME MASTER PLANS.

THE MORE WE CAN WORK TOGETHER AND FIND WAYS TO WORK WITH THE PUBLIC, WHICH IS INCREASINGLY HOSTILE, THE BETTER.

MARK YOU WANT TO TALK ABOUT THESE DAYS.

>> SURE. GOING INTO TO THE CONVERSATION WITH THE TOWN AND CITY MANAGERS, MAURY ASKED ME, IF I MAY SHARE.

TO LISTEN FOR, WHAT WOULD THE TOWNS AND THE CITIES LIKE THE COUNTY TO DO? WHAT ROLE WOULD THEY SEE THE COUNTY PLAYING? SEE WHAT DID THEY SAY? THESE ARE THE AREAS OR ISSUES WHERE I THOUGHT THE MANAGERS WERE SAYING SOMETHING ABOUT THE COUNTY'S ROLE GOING FORWARD.

IT WAS REALLY POSITIVE, BY THE WAY.

I HAVE TO SAY IT WAS A VERY POSITIVE SET OF COMMENTS. ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.

THE COUNTY CAN SUPPORT ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT REGARDING BIG ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT PROJECTS.

WE NEED A BIG VISION, AND IT NEEDS TO BE A UNIFIED DIVISION.

THAT'S CLEARLY AN OPPORTUNITY.

THE COUNTY'S LAND DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS ARE IMPORTANT AND THE CITIES VERY MUCH APPRECIATE THE COUNTY'S UPDATE OF THE PNC CODES.

EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT, THE COUNTY PROVIDES LEADERSHIP AND STAFFING IN THE CITIES. LOCAL CONTROL.

WE ALL HAVE TO BE TOGETHER TO SPEAK WITH ONE VOICE REGARDING LOCAL CONTROL.

WE NEED LOCAL CONTROL REGARDING TAXATION, EXAMPLES, FOOD TAX.

THE STATE MAKES LAWS THAT RESTRICT LOCAL GOVERNMENT TAXATION DECISIONS, AND THEY'RE REALLY LOOKING FOR A JOINT, COLLABORATIVE VOICE AROUND THESE THINGS.

ROADS, TRANSPORTATION, TRAFFIC.

THE COUNTY COULD QUALIFY AS A SELF CERTIFIED FOR SMALLER JURISDICTIONS OR COMMUNITIES.

IF THAT WAS THE CASE, THEN WE WOULD HAVE ALREADY STARTED SOME PROJECTS.

THE QUESTION IS, CAN THE COUNTY HELP WITH FUNDING FLOW? WORKING WITH A DOT AND THE LEGISLATURES WHERE WE NEED TO COORDINATE OUR EFFORTS REGARDING HIGHWAY PROJECTS.

WHAT HAPPENS IS THEY NEED A TRANSPORTATION PLAN THAT INCLUDES EVERYBODY.

THE THOUGHT IS THAT THERE'S SOME SITUATIONS WHERE DOT WILL NOT GIVE THE GRANT DIRECTLY TO A COMMUNITY BECAUSE IT'S TOO SMALL TO MANAGE THE SIZE OF A PROJECT.

THE IDEA WAS THAT POSSIBLY THE COUNTY COULD SERVE AS SELF CERTIFIED AND THEN BE THE FISCAL AGENT FOR PROJECTS RATHER THAN WORKING WITH DOT, WHICH IS, VERY SLOW AND VERY BECA, CORRECT? IN THAT REGARD. THE MAYOR MANAGER MEETINGS, AS JEREMY MENTIONED JUST THE LAST SLIDE.

THE COUNTY CAN PROVIDE LEADERSHIP AND PROVIDE STRUCTURE FOR THOSE AGENDAS.

I THINK THEY'RE LOOKING FOR SOME ADDITIONAL LEADERSHIP FROM THE COUNTY, MAYBE MORE SO THAN JUST ONE OF THEM DOING IT.

NEXT. WATER AND WASTEWATER.

I NEED THE COUNTY TO BE A FACILITATOR REGARDING WATER.

THE COUNTY NEEDS TO BE AT THE TABLE, OF COURSE, WHAT THEY'RE LOOKING FOR IS A UNIFIED VOICE AND A CLEAR VISION FOR WATER AND WASTEWATER.

THEY NEED ONE VOICE WHEN THE LEGISLATURE IS TRYING TO MAKE OR ALLOWING EXCEPTIONS TO BE MADE TO THE LAW.

THEY FEEL LIKE IF THE COUNTY AND THE CITIES AND TOWNS ARE ALL ON THE SAME PAGE, SAYING THE SAME THING, THAT THERE'S POWER IN MANY VOICES, IF YOU WILL, ABOUT THIS.

HEALTHCARE RECRUITMENT, THE COUNTY CAN FACILITATE THIS.

THEY'RE ASKING OR ENCOURAGING A COUNTY WIDE INITIATIVE FOR HEALTHCARE RECRUITMENT FOR DOCTORS AND NURSES.

REGARDING WILDLIFE AND WILDLIFE MANAGEMENT AND CORRIDORS, THE COUNTY HAS TO BE AT THE TABLE AND LEAD THE WAY.

WE NEED A BROADER VISION FOR WILDLIFE.

YOU'LL SEE THOSE WORDS NEED A BROADER VISION IN TWO OR THREE OF THESE PLACES, AND I THINK THAT'S WHAT THEY'RE LOOKING FOR.

IS MORE FULL ON COLLABORATION WITH YOU BRINGING EVERYBODY TO THE TABLE AND REALLY FACILITATING AND CONVENING SOME OF THESE EFFORTS THAT ARE IMPORTANT TO ALL OF YOU.

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INFRASTRUCTURE, TO INFLUENCE THE LEGISLATURE WOULD HELP A GREAT DEAL OF THE CITIES AND THE COUNTY WOULD COLLABORATE.

LET'S SHARE RESOURCES AND COORDINATE OUR MESSAGES.

DISPATCH, THE COUNTY CAN FACILITATE CREATING A COORDINATED APPROACH IN THIS REGARD, TOO.

>> GUYS, I WANT TO SAY THIS BEFORE WE MOVE ON TO THE DEPARTMENT DIRECTORS FEEDBACK.

THERE'S PROBABLY STUFF UP THERE YOU HEARD THAT YOU AGREED WITH. THAT YOU DIDN'T.

BUT I'M GOING TO GIVE IT TO YOU THAT YOU EVEN BROUGHT THE CITY AND TOWN MANAGERS INTO THE PROCESS.

THEY'RE YOUR PERFORMANCE PARTNERS IN A LOT OF WAYS.

YOU MUNICIPAL PARTNERS.

WE WORK IN A LOT OF JURISDICTIONS WHERE THAT DOES NOT HAPPEN.

WHETHER YOU AGREE WITH EVERYTHING OR NOT, THE QUESTION IS THERE MAY BE SOME STUFF THAT CAME OUT OF THIS THAT'S GOING TO BE HELPFUL FOR THIS PROCESS, AND I GIVE YOU KUDOS FOR THAT BECAUSE THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE DON'T SEE IN EVERY PROCESS THAT WOULD FACILITATE.

>> I JUST WANT TO SAY THAT I THINK MY WORKLOAD HAS EXTREMELY GOTTEN MUCH LONGER AND HARDER.

I DON'T KNOW IF I HAVE TIME TO SIT AROUND ANYMORE. I BETTER GET GOING.

I COULDN'T BELIEVE A LOT OF THIS STUFF.

ANYWAY, IT'LL BE INTERESTING. GOOD TO HEAR.

>> MARK. THIS IS THE INPUT THAT CAME OUT OF YOUR DEPARTMENT DIRECTOR.

>> AFFORDABILITY WAS A BIG TOPIC.

THIS IS THE RETIREMENT CAPITAL, I THINK THEY MEANT OF ARIZONA.

THE MEDIUM AGE OF THE COUNTY IS 55.

OVER 65 YEARS OF AGE ARE 34% OF THE POPULATION, AND IT'S THE FASTEST GROWING PART OF YOUR POPULATION.

MANY HAVE CASHED OUT AND BUY HOMES OUTRIGHT, AND A PIKE COUNTY.

THUS, THE COST OF HOUSING CONTINUES TO CLIMB THIS IS THE DESIRABLE PLACE TO LIVE IS BEING VIEWED AS A DESIRABLE PLACE TO LIVE.

I WOULD LOVE TO LIVE HERE MYSELF.

NOW THE CHILDREN OF PARENTS WHO HAVE STUDENT LOANS DON'T WANT TO GO TO COLLEGE BECAUSE THEY DON'T WANT TO FACE THAT ADDITIONAL DEBT.

AGAIN, THIS IS IN THE CONTEXT OF AFFORDABILITY.

OUR KIDS ARE LEAVING BECAUSE THEY CAN'T AFFORD TO LIVE HERE, CREATING A BRAIN DRAIN FOR THE COMMUNITY.

HOUSING. THERE'S A LOT OF FEELING ABOUT THIS.

WE HAVE A HOUSING SHORTAGE HERE.

PRESCOTT IS LANDLOCKED, $800,000 IS THE AVERAGE COST OF A HOUSE IN PRESCOTT.

450,000 IS THE AVERAGE FOR THE COUNTY.

CONFLICT. THERE'S A LOT ABOUT THIS.

NEW FOLKS ARE USED TO DENSITY WHILE MOST LONG TERM RESIDENTS DO NOT WANT DENSITY.

JEREMY AND I JOKE THAT DENSITY BECAME THE DIRTY WORD, IN THE CONVERSATION.

AFFORDABILITY, EVEN CHEAP PLACES HAVE BECOME NOW EXPENSIVE, AND WE SEE THIS EVERYWHERE.

THERE WAS A LOT OF INFLATION SHADING GOING ON WHEN INFLATION WAS REALLY UP AND RUNNING HIGH DURING THE PANDEMIC.

A LOT OF LANDLORDS RAISED THE RATES BECAUSE THEY COULD GET BY IT, NOT BECAUSE THEIR EXPENSES WENT UP ACCORDINGLY. WE SAW THIS EVERYWHERE.

WE ARE SEEING TWO AND THREE FAMILIES LIVING IN THE SAME HOUSE.

RV PARKS HAVE BECOME PLACES FOR PERMANENT HOUSING IN THE COUNTY.

THERE'S REALLY NO AFFORDABLE HOUSING HERE.

SECONDARY HOUSING ON PROPERTIES IS HAPPENING BUT NOT DUE TO A STATUTE CHANGE.

THE MOST VULNERABLE AMONG US HAVE NO HOUSING OPTIONS, INCLUDING AND SOMETIMES, ESPECIALLY THE ELDERLY.

PROPERTIES ARE BEING PURCHASED AS INVESTMENTS FOR AIRBNBS.

THE NIMBI ISSUE IS VERY REAL AND VERY MUCH AN ISSUE HERE.

MANY HOMELESS PEOPLE ARE ACTUALLY WORKING POOR.

THEY'RE ACTUALLY WORKING JOBS, BUT DO NOT MAKE ENOUGH MONEY TO AFFORD APPROPRIATE HOUSING HERE.

SORRY I REPEATED THAT.

THERE'S A LOT OF MULTIGENERATIONAL LIVING SITUATIONS AS WELL.

NOT THAT THAT'S NECESSARILY A BAD THING, BUT IN THIS CASE, IT'S BEING POINTED TO AS A SYMPTOM OF NOT HAVING ADEQUATE AFFORDABLE HOUSING.

HEALTHCARE. HEALTHCARE IS A BIG GAP IN THE COUNTY.

THERE ARE A FEW DOCTORS AND A LOT OF MEDICAL PATIENTS.

THERE ARE LITTLE TO NO SPECIALISTS HERE.

DOCTORS ITINERATE IN AND OUT OF THE COMMUNITY.

THE COMMUNITY IS NOT HAPPY WITH HEALTH CARE, AND SOME MAY LEAVE AS A CONSEQUENCE OF THAT.

CONCIERGE MEDICINE IS ALSO ERODING THE AVAILABILITY OF DOCTORS.

DOCTORS AND NURSES ARE IN HIGH DEMAND.

NEW DOCTORS OUT OF MED SCHOOL MAY MAKE $200,000, BUT THEY CAN'T FIND HOUSING THAT THEY'RE HAPPY WITH.

ECONOMIC GROWTH AND STRENGTH GROWTH.

CALIFORNIA AND PHOENIX ARE THE MAIN SOURCES OF IN MIGRATION.

WE HAVE HIGH GROWTH AND ALSO A HIGH COST OF LIVING.

TWENTY PLUS PERCENT GROWTH SINCE 2010.

LAST YEAR, IT WAS 1.13.

WE HAVE ABOUT 250,000 PEOPLE NOW IN THE COUNTY.

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THAT WAS 178,000 IN 2000,125,000 IN 1990.

THE INCREASES IN POPULATION ALSO INCREASE THE DEMAND FOR SERVICE.

I THINK THAT'S REALLY A VERY IMPORTANT POINT.

WHEN POPULATIONS INCREASE, THE DEMAND FOR SERVICES OF A WHOLE VARIETY ALSO INCREASE.

IT'S ALMOST AN EQUATION.

KNOW THAT GROWTH ALSO MEANS GREATER DEMAND FOR SERVICES FROM THE COUNTY.

PEOPLE MOVING HERE EXPECT A HIGH LEVEL OF SERVICES FROM LOCAL GOVERNMENTS.

SOME DEPARTMENTS PROJECT DEMAND, SOME DO NOT.

DEVELOPMENT. WILDCAT SUBDIVISIONS, BUYERS EXPECT THE COUNTY TO MAINTAIN ROADS.

SPLIT LOTS CREATE MORE STRAWS IN THE GROUND FOR WATER.

THIS GROWTH IS NOT BEING MANAGED.

UNMANAGED GROWTH IS ACTUALLY HAPPENING.

THE COUNTY HAS NO REGULATORY OVERSIGHT OF WATER USE OR WILDCAT SUBDIVISION DEVELOPMENTS.

ARIZONA ASSOCIATION OF COUNTIES, COUNTY SUPERVISORS ASSOCIATION AND THE LEAGUE OF CITIES ARE TRYING TO INFLUENCE STATE POLICY ON THIS.

WATER. SOME AREAS ARE ACTUALLY HAVING TO BUY AND TRUCK IN WATER.

THE COUNTY HAS NO OVERSIGHT OR AUTHORITY REGARDING WATER.

IT WOULD HELP TO DEVELOP A COLLABORATIVE PLAN FOR WATER WITH THE MUNICIPALITIES IF POSSIBLE.

ROADS, TRANSPORTATION AND TRAFFIC, INFRASTRUCTURE.

WE'RE WAY BEHIND ON ROADS AND MANAGING TRAFFIC.

THE PUBLIC PUSHES BACK WHEN WE TRY TO MAKE IMPROVEMENTS.

WE HAVE TO HAVE THE POLITICAL WILL TO DO WHAT IS BEST FOR THE COUNTY AS A WHOLE.

WE DO NOT HAVE A DEDICATED FUNDING STREAM FOR ROADS, 40% OF RESIDENTS WHO WORK COMMUTE TO WORK IN PHOENIX.

EVEN WHEN IMPROVEMENTS ARE MADE, THEY'RE LATE AND INADEQUATE DUE TO THE SLOW HIGHWAY FUNDING PROGRAM AND PROMISE.

AGAIN, PROGRESS, AGAIN, ALL STATE DEPARTMENTS OF TRANSPORTATION REALLY MOVE SLOWLY.

>> CHILDCARE. TWO COMMENTS, MANY PEOPLE MOVING HERE DO NOT HAVE CHILDREN, BUT WE LACK CHILDCARE PROVIDERS AND SLOTS FOR THOSE THAT DO.

FEDERAL FUNDING CUTS.

THIS AGAIN IS YOUR DEPARTMENTS.

EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT GRANTS ARE BEING CUT.

TRAINING FOR CERTIFICATIONS ARE GOING AWAY.

I THINK THIS IS CAPITAL PROJECT ATTORNEYS WHO ARE ALL ON FEDERAL GRANTS THAT ARE ACTUALLY GOING AWAY.

COVID GRANTS LEFT AND HAVE COME BACK.

HIV PUBLIC HEALTH PREPAREDNESS ARE NOW ON A SIX MONTHS CONTRACT.

THAT'S SHORT TERM, OBVIOUSLY.

NUTRITION GRANTS ARE GOING AWAY.

FEMA FUNDING FOR FLOOD CONTROL GRANTS ARE NOW UNCERTAIN.

UNCERTAINTY NOW SURROUNDS MANY CONTRACTS.

DECISIONS BY THE FEDS ARE GETTING HELD UP CAUSING A PARALYSIS.

THE STATUS QUO, SOME CUTS ARE HERE, SOME MORE ARE COMING, AND THE STATUS QUO IS NOT HOLDING.

GOOD GOVERNANCE. OF COURSE, THESE ARE DEPARTMENT DIRECTORS, SO WE HAVE A LOT TO SAY ABOUT GOOD GOVERNANCE.

YOU GOT A SWIG OF WATER HERE TO KEEP GOING.

>> [INAUDIBLE]

>> THANK YOU. THERE HAS BEEN A LOT OF CHANGE REGARDING HOW WE CREATE A BUDGET.

THE BUDGET SEEMS TO CHANGE EVERY YEAR AND NEW OPERATIONAL RULES ARE CHANGING QUICKLY.

MOST ARE GOOD CHANGES, BUT A LOT OF CHANGES IN HR BUDGET AND BOARD MEETING AGENDAS.

WE NEED A COUNTY BRAND.

LACKING COLLABORATION AND COMMUNICATION, BUT IT IS IMPROVING UNDER THE MANAGER FORM OF GOVERNMENT.

THE COUNTY MANAGER MANAGER SYSTEM IS A CHALLENGING TRANSITION.

SOME ARE STILL MAKING A TRANSITION.

CULTURE INITIATIVES THAT WE'LL TALK ABOUT A LITTLE BIT IS FOCUSING ON GOVERNMENT LEADERS AND LEADERSHIP.

COUNTY WIDE POLICIES ARE IMPORTANT.

IN THE PAST, DEPARTMENTS WERE SILOED AS THEY REPORTED TO INDIVIDUAL SUPERVISORS.

ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AND HOUSING ARE GAPS IN THE ORGANIZATION, WHICH WE KNOW.

WE HAVE ACTED BOARD MEMBERS AND THEY'RE HOLDING TOWN MEETINGS.

DEPARTMENT DIRECTOR IS EXPECTED TO BE THERE, AND SOMETIMES THIS CAUSES A WORKLOAD ISSUE, POSSIBLY, WE COULD ROTATE OTHER STAFF TO MAKE IT ALL WORK.

STAFFING. THE LACK OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING WILL DIMINISH THE COUNTY'S ABILITY TO PROVIDE US THE WORKFORCE WE NEED AS AN ORGANIZATION.

THEY CONNECTED THE DOTS BETWEEN AFFORDABILITY, HOUSING, AND RECRUITMENT AND TRAINING AND RETENTION RATHER.

ENTRY LEVEL COUNTY EMPLOYEES CANNOT WORK REMOTELY.

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THEIR WORK IS DIRECTLY WITH CUSTOMERS.

CURRENTLY, MOST COUNTY EMPLOYEES HAVE TO LIVE WELL AWAY FROM WHERE THEY WORK IN ORDER TO AFFORD IT.

HYBRID REMOTE AND ONSITE WORK ENVIRONMENT WILL HELP.

HOW TO CREATE A CULTURE WITH REMOTE WORKING IS A CHALLENGE.

PEOPLE DON'T HAVE SOCIAL SKILLS.

EVERYBODY'S LOOKING AT SCREENS.

I DON'T KNOW IF THAT WAS IN OR GENERATIONAL COMMENT OR I PROBABLY WOULD HAVE MADE THAT [INAUDIBLE].

YOUNG PEOPLE LIVE FOR TODAY AND HAVE DIFFICULTY SEEING THE FUTURE AND HAVE NO PLANS.

AI.

I WANT TO SAY THAT AMONG THE JURISDICTIONS THAT WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH FOR THE LAST YEAR OR SO, I FELT MORE FORWARD LEANING AND STRATEGIC THINKING COMING FROM YOU AS AN ORGANIZATION ABOUT AI THAN WE'VE HEARD ELSEWHERE, WHICH IS REALLY POSITIVE.

PROFESSIONALS WILL BE PROTECTIVE FROM THE THREAT OF ARTIFICIAL INTELLIGENCE.

FEAR BASED RESPONSES ARE COMMON TO THIS.

SECURITY IS AN ISSUE, AND THE AI COUNCIL IS IN ITS INFANCY.

COUNTY STAFF ARE WORKING ON THIS.

WE NEED A GOAL IN THE STRATEGIC PLAN TO CREATE OUR APPROACH TO AI, AND WE NEED A GOAL FOR AI.

SPACE. I'M SURE YOU EXPECTED TO HEAR ABOUT THIS ONE.

ALL OF YOU TALKED ABOUT IT.

ALL VERY MUCH IN ALIGNMENT.

WE DO NOT HAVE ENOUGH SPACE.

WE CANNOT ADD STAFF DUE TO SPACE LIMITATIONS.

THIS HAS A BIG IMPACT ON OUR EFFICIENCY.

AN EXAMPLE IS IN FLEET WHERE WE SUPPORT 68 VEHICLES PER MECHANIC, I'M GUESSING RATHER THAN THE DESIRED 50, AND THAT'S A SPACE ISSUE.

THE LACK OF SPACE BECOMES A SAFETY ISSUE AS WELL.

THEY EMPHASIZE THIS.

TRY TO SUSTAIN SERVICE LEVELS IS VERY DIFFICULT WHEN STAFF ARE IN CLOSES IN CONFERENCE ROOMS. PLANS FOR SPACE SEEM TO STALL OUT.

THERE IS NO ONGOING OR CONSISTENT FUNDING FOR CIP.

WE DON'T LIKE DEBT HISTORICALLY AS AN ORGANIZATION.

WE'VE BEEN VERY FISCALLY CONSERVATIVE.

OUR SPACE NEEDS AND PLANS NEED A FISCAL OR FINANCIAL PLAN FOR FUNDING THEM.

THE BOARD MAY NOT KNOW HOW DEPARTMENTS ACTUALLY FUNCTION AND WHAT OPERATIONS NEED FOR SPACE.

THE LACK OF SPACE DEVALUE STAFF AS PROFESSIONALS.

THE THREAT OF FOREST FIRES.

WE WORKED WITH THE CITY, AS YOU KNOW, PRESCOTT, AND THE FIRE DEPARTMENT THERE DEVELOPED THEIR OWN STRATEGIC PLAN, AND THIS WAS PARAMOUNT IN THEIR PLAN REGARDING FOREST FIRES WITHIN THE COUNTY.

THE THREAT OF FORCE FIRES IS QUITE SIGNIFICANT, 12% OF HOMEOWNERS IN PRESCOTT DO NOT HAVE INSURANCE.

MANY HOMEOWNERS ARE AT RISK OF NOT BEING ABLE TO GET INSURANCE AND ARE MOVING.

>> AGAIN, WHAT I WANT TO REMIND YOU AS WE GO ALONG, THIS IS THE LAST PART, AND THEN WE'RE GOING TO TAKE A BREAK.

EVERYBODY CAN, WHO FOR A SECOND.

BUT AGAIN, I WANT YOU TO THINK ABOUT THIS IS THE FEEDBACK YOU ALL GAVE, MARV IN YOUR ONE ON ONE CONVERSATIONS.

AGAIN, THINK ABOUT IT FROM THE ALIGNMENT PERSPECTIVE.

YOU'VE HEARD FROM YOUR TOWN AND YOUR CITY MANAGERS, YOU'VE HEARD FROM YOUR DEPARTMENT DIRECTORS.

NOW, THIS IS FROM YOU ALL.

AFFORDABILITY. WITH COUNTY SALARIES, YOU CAN'T AFFORD TO LIVE HERE.

IT'S INCREDIBLY EXPENSIVE TO LIVE HERE.

PRESCOTT USED TO BE AFFORDABLE BUT HAS BECOME UNAFFORDABLE.

FILLING POSITIONS IN THE COUNTY IS NEARLY IMPOSSIBLE, EVEN FOR HIGH LEVEL POSITIONS.

WE HAVE TO GO OUTSIDE OUR COMPENSATION STRUCTURE TO HIRE EMPLOYEES, EVEN AT THE HIGHER LEVELS.

HOUSING IS NOT AFFORDABLE.

THE HOUSING ISSUE NOT BEING ADDRESSED IS NOT BEING ADDRESSED AS AN AFFORDABILITY ISSUE.

THE COUNTY HAS NOT TAKEN AN INITIATIVE ON HOUSING.

PLANNING AND ZONING REGS CAN HELP CREATE HIGHER DENSITY.

HOUSING. HOUSING IS AN ISSUE FOR COUNTIES.

IT IS A CRUX OF THE CONFLICT WITHIN THE COMMUNITY, THIS GROWTH, NO GROWTH MENTALITY.

I'LL SAY YOU'RE NOT UNIQUE IN THAT AT ALL.

EVERY PLACE WE GO, THAT IS AN ATTRACTIVE COMMUNITY IS HAVING THE SAME CONVERSATION.

WE'RE LOSING OUR RURALNESS.

THERE'S A STRONG DESIRE TO SUPPRESS GROWTH AND KEEP RURALNESS.

BIG QUESTION. ARE WE, THE COUNTY GOING TO BE PART OF THE HOUSING SOLUTION? DENSITY IS CONSIDERED A DIRTY WORD HERE.

WE NEED SMALLER FOOTPRINT DOMICILES.

THE ENCHANTMENT RESORT IS BUILDING HOUSING.

DENSITY IS THE BIG QUESTION.

NO ONE WANTS DENSITY.

PRESCOTT VALLEY, VERDI VALLEY, ARE MIXTURES OF ALL KINDS OF HOUSING.

THE COUNTY DOES NOT DEAL WITH APARTMENTS, TWO ACRE MINIMUMS. DEVELOPERS ARE STILL COMING.

THE RURAL MENTALITY IS A DOMINANT PERSPECTIVE, THAT RURALNESS.

SUBDIVISION ISSUES, WATER, TRAFFIC, NOISE.

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HOW INVOLVED SHOULD THE COUNTY BE? THE LOW INCOME HOUSING TAX CREDIT? IS IT WORKFORCE HOUSING OR FOR MUNICIPALITIES TO DO? WE ARE REACTIVE RATHER THAN PROACTIVE WHEN IT COMES TO HOUSING? HOW MANY SECOND HOMES ON PROPERTIES? ONE OF FOUR HOMES IN SEDONA IS AN AIRBNB.

WE TEND TO BE VERY REACTIVE TO THE CITIZENS.

ABANDONED OR DILAPIDATED PROPERTIES TAKE ABOUT EIGHT YEARS TO DEAL WITH.

CAN WE MAKE REGULATORY CHANGES TO MAKE IT EASIER AND FASTER FOR PROPERTY OWNERS TO FORFEIT PROPERTY? THE COUNTY COULD GET THEM PROPERTIES? HOW DO YOU GET PEOPLE TO BE RESPONSIBLE? HEALTHCARE. WE'RE A HUGE COUNTY WITH MINGUS MOUNTAIN DOWN THE MIDDLE.

ON THE BACK SIDE OF THE MOUNTAIN, THERE'S LITTLE TO NO HEALTHCARE, COTTONWOOD, JEROME, CLARKDALE, ETC.

HEALTHCARE IN PRESCOTT VALLEY HAS A POOR REPUTATION.

THE COUNTY RUNS A CLINIC TO TRY TO FILL THE GAPS FOR LOW INCOME FOLKS.

THE COST OF HEALTHCARE HERE IS VERY HIGH FIVE TIMES THAT OF PHOENIX.

THE COUNTY SELF INSURED HEALTHCARE IS VERY COSTLY WITH A 12.5 INCREASE THIS YEAR.

>> JUST TO BE CLEAR, THERE WAS A COMMENT, I THINK, FROM THE TOWNS AND CITY MANAGERS ABOUT THE POOR QUALITY OF HEALTHCARE AND THE POOR REPUTATION, AND THAT WAS ABOUT NORTHERN ARIZONA HEALTHCARE.

IT WAS ABOUT THAT ORGANIZATION.

>> ECONOMIC GROWTH AND SHRINK.

OUR POPULATION IS GROWING.

WE'RE NOT VERY PROACTIVE ABOUT GROWTH.

WE JUST ACCEPT WHAT HAPPENS OR COMES OUR WAY.

WHAT IS OUR PLAN FOR GROWTH? WE NEED AN INTELLIGENT PLAN FOR GROWTH FOR PEOPLE WHO LIVE HERE.

THE COUNTY DOES NOT HAVE AN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT.

WE MUST INCLUDE THIS IN THE STRATEGIC PLAN.

WE NEED A DEPARTMENT TO ADDRESS THIS CRITICAL SET OF ISSUES.

DOES THE COUNTY HAVE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENTS? HOPING THAT THE PLANNING AND ZONING UPDATE WILL ADDRESS ALL THE BIG ISSUES.

CHAMBERS IN PRESCOTT/ PRESCOTT VALLEY WANT TO REGIONALIZE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.

THEY SEE THE COUNTY INVOLVED AS A FACILITATOR.

THERE'S NO COUNTY ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT OR DIRECTOR.

THIS IS A DESIRE TO CREATE AN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT.

THE COUNTY HEADS WORKFORCE DEVELOPMENT AND CONTRACTS FOR SERVICE DELIVERY.

WITHOUT AN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT, THIS IS HARD FOR US TO LEAD OR MANAGE ISSUES LIKE HOUSING, DEVELOPMENT, GROWTH.

DO WE WAIT? OR DO WE PLAN? LET'S PLAN AND BE PROACTIVE REGARDING OUR GROWTH.

THERE WAS A BIG BOOM DURING COVID.

SOME PEOPLE WANT TO STOP THE GROWTH.

THERE'S TOO MANY CARS.

WE CAN GROW INTELLIGENTLY.

REGARDING GROWTH, THERE ARE A VARIETY OF OPINIONS.

RECENT ARRIVALS DO NOT WANT OTHERS TO COME.

NEWCOMERS DON'T WANT MORE GROWTH, THE IRONY.

A SMALL MINORITY ARE ORGANIZED AND VOCAL.

THERE ARE MANY SILENT GROUPS.

WE NEED TO CONTROL LOT SPLITTING.

SOME ROADS WERE BUILT FOR FUTURE GROWTH.

WE CAN'T JUST SAY NO TO NEW ROADS.

OUR RESPONSIBILITY IS TO BUILD FOR TOMORROW.

DEVELOPMENT. PRESCOTT/ PRESCOTT VALLEY AND CHINO VALLEY HAVE ALL GROWN CONSIDERABLY.

IN PRESCOTT, THE AVERAGE OWN PRICE, WHICH WE HEARD IN ANOTHER STAKEHOLDER GROUP IS 800,000.

THE CITY OF PRESCOTT DEVELOPERS WANT MORE DENSITY.

WORKING PEOPLE LIVE OUTSIDE THE AREAS WHERE THEY WORK.

CHINO VALLEY AND OUTLYING AREAS WANT TO STAY RURAL.

DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENTS MAY BE A WAY FOR US TO INFLUENCE HOW DEVELOPMENTS OCCUR.

THE PLANNING AND ZONING REVIEW IS VERY IMPORTANT.

SUPERVISORS SEE IT AS BEING VERY COMPREHENSIVE.

GROWTH CAN BE CONTROLLED BY THE SIZE OF LOTS.

BIGGER LOTS EQUAL FEWER HOMES, 85-87, PRESCOTT HAD LOTS OF WATER.

NOW WE HAVE EXPANSIVE LOTS WITHOUT WATER.

WATER TREATMENT CAPACITY CAN BE USED AS A CRITERIA.

THE COUNTY DOES NOT KNOW HOW TO CONTROL GROWTH.

CAN PLANNED AREA DEVELOPMENTS REQUIRE RECHARGE, REQUIRED PLANNED AREA DEVELOPMENTS AND ELIMINATE WILD CAT DEVELOPMENTS.

I HAD TO ASK ABOUT WILDCAT DEVELOPMENTS.

THE COUNTY REGULATES FIRE PROTECTION.

THE COUNTY IS A SUBDIVISION OF THE STATE.

DEVELOPMENTS WITH ONE WAY IN AND ONE WAY OUT ARE AN ISSUE.

WE DON'T HAVE NOISE NOISE ORDINANCES AND NOISE IS AN ISSUE WITH CONSTRUCTION.

WILD CAP SUBDIVISIONS.

TRAFFIC CONGESTION AROUND SEDONA IS AN ISSUE.

COTTONWOOD CONGESTION IS A CHALLENGE.

THE COUNTY CANNOT FIX IT ALONE.

PARTNERSHIPS ARE CRITICAL IN NACOG, VERDE VALLEY TRANSPORTATION PLANNING.

FIFTY PERCENT FEDERAL AND 50% STATE IN TERMS OF PUBLIC LANDS, GREAT PEOPLE IN WORKING RELATIONSHIPS WITH THE US FOREST SERVICE.

TERMS OF BLM, NOT SO SURE.

RECREATION VERSUS MINING AND LOGGING.

DO NO HARM TO RECREATION IS IMPORTANT.

IT'S HARD TO RESTART LOGGING.

CHINESE MINES ARE BADLY MANAGED.

INFRASTRUCTURE. CITIES CARRY MOST OF THE INFRASTRUCTURE.

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THE CONCERN IS THAT THE COUNTY DOES NOT LEAD.

WHERE IS OUR PHILOSOPHY REGARDING INFRASTRUCTURE? WHAT'S THE COUNTY'S ROLE? THE COUNTY IS NOT IN THE UTILITY BUSINESS.

ARE WE IN THE INFRASTRUCTURE BUSINESS OR IN REGULATION OR BOTH OR NEITHER.

DOES THE COUNTY HAVE MASTER PLANS LIKE FOR FACILITIES? WE'RE BURSTING AT THE SEAMS IN TERMS OF SPACE. CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS.

WE'RE HOPING THAT THE STRATEGIC PLAN WILL RESULT IN FOUR NEW BUILDINGS, SHERIFF'S ADMINISTRATION, RENOVATE GIRLY, BUILD TWO NEW BUILDINGS FOR GOVERNMENT SERVICE ON COMMERCE IN CONGRESS.

THE SPACE ISSUE FOR ELECTIONS IS CRITICAL.

WE NEED A FINANCIAL PLAN FOR THESE CAPITAL PROJECTS.

THERE'S A FEELING THAT WE SHOULD DO THEM ALL AT ONCE.

WE ARE A GROWING GOVERNMENT TO MATCH A GROWING COMMUNITY.

WE NEED TIMELINES FOR CAPITAL PROJECTS IN THE STRATEGIC PLAN.

WE'RE BEHIND ON EVERYTHING.

WE HAVE NOT HAD A VISION.

THERE ARE SAFETY ISSUES FOR STAFF REGARDING THE SPACE WE HAVE.

WE NEED A STRATEGIC PLAN FOR HOW WE BUILD.

RURAL STUDY RECOMMENDS COMBINED AGENCIES IN RURAL AREAS.

WE NEED A MULTI USE BUILDING IN CONGRESS, SHERIFF'S OFFICE FULL TIME PERMANENT STAFF, AND OTHER SERVICES STAFF PART TIME.

ONE THOUGHT IS TO BUILD THE SHERIFF SUBSTATION FIRST, THEN MULTI USE BUILDING.

WE NEED TO CHANGE HOW WE BUILD.

WE TO NEED DESIGN WORK.

OUR CIP PLAN NEEDS CONTINUITY AND CAN'T KEEP CHANGING.

WE NEED A FINANCIAL PLAN FOR OUR CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS.

WE NEED A COUNTY WIDE DISPATCH AND EMERGENCY OPERATIONS CENTER.

WATER INFRASTRUCTURE.

STATE HAS CONTROL.

WE DO SEPTIC AND WELLS. WE CAN BE A PARTNER.

HOW IF WE ADDRESS WATER IS THE QUESTION.

TOWNS NEED THE COUNTY TO FACILITATE.

TEN YEARS AGO, THERE WAS AN ATTEMPT AT A WATER ASSESSMENT.

THAT PARTNERSHIP FELL APART, AND THE STUDY WAS NOT COMPLETED.

WE HAVE NO SOLID INFORMATION ABOUT OUR WATER SITUATION.

IT'S BOTH DRINKING AND OTHER USES, SEWER, ETC.

A PROPOSED SUBDIVISION IN THE SOUTHERN PART OF THE COUNTY DOES NOT HAVE ENOUGH WATER FOR THE FIRE DEPARTMENT.

IT SHOULD BE NOTED THAT WE HAVE A SUPERVISOR WHO BUILT A NEW, VERY NICE HOME.

IT DOES NOT HAVE WATER CONSISTENTLY AVAILABLE.

THE STATE DOES NOT RESTRICT DEVELOPMENT WHEN THERE IS LIMITED WATER.

THERE ARE VARIED LEVELS OF CONCERN ON THE BOARD.

SOME WANT TO INFLUENCE THE USE OF WATER INDIRECTLY THROUGH DEVELOPMENT.

THE STATE REGULATES AND MANAGES WATER, AND THEY HAVE FAILED TO IMPROVE REGULATION SINCE 1980.

>> THE STATE NEEDS TO GIVE LOCAL GOVERNMENTS MORE TOOLS TO DEAL WITH AND MANAGE WATER.

WE HAVE TO GET MORE CLEAR AND DARING IN WHAT WE CAN ACTUALLY DO REGARDING WATER.

WE'RE NOT MAKING PROGRESS AT THE STATE.

WE'RE SEEING A TANGIBLE, NEGATIVE IMPACT.

THIS IS FRONT OF MIND IN THE COMMUNITY.

ONE OF OUR SUPERVISORS CO-AUTHORED AN OP-ED PIECE ABOUT WHAT MORE WE CAN DO.

WATER. THE INTERGOVERNMENTAL COMMITTEE FOR WATER AND OPEN SPACES VOTES ON JULY 2ND, OR VOTED ON JULY 2, EXCUSE ME.

THE OPEN SPACE OVERLAY IS VERY IMPORTANT FOR DEVELOPMENT DECISIONS.

IN COTTONWOOD, PUBLIC LANDS ARE GOING TO AUCTION.

WE CAN BE A PARTNER IN TERMS OF PLANNING FOR WATER.

NEW BUSINESSES WANT A LOT OF WATER.

GOVERNMENT NEEDS TO REIMBURSE OUR PROPERTY OWNERS INVESTED IN THEIR WELLS.

IN REGARDS TO WATER, THE COMMON ATTITUDE IS, 'LET SOMEONE ELSE FIX IT, OR DEAL WITH IT'.

WE COULD TIER THE COST OF WATER USAGE FOR BUSINESSES AND RESIDENTS.

PRIVATE WATER COMPANIES HAVE WELLS AND PIPES.

THE COUNTY MUST GET CLEAR ABOUT DEVELOPMENT, DEFINITIONS, AND STANDARDS.

WE HAVE 5,000 SEPTIC CESSPOOLS.

WE NEED WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANS AND PLANTS.

THERE'S A STATE FUNDING FOR PROJECTS THROUGH THE WATER INFRASTRUCTURE FINANCE AUTHORITY.

THE COUNTY SUPERVISORS ASSOCIATION BRIEFING ON LEGISLATION IS NOT GETTING TO THE BOARD.

ROADS, TRANSPORTATION, TRAFFIC.

PRIVATE ROADS OFTEN DO NOT MEET THE COUNTY STANDARDS.

DOES THE COUNTY HAVE ROAD STANDARDS? DOES THE STATE OR COUNTY NEED DEDICATED ROAD FUNDS.

STATE OR COUNTY NEEDS DEDICATED ROAD FUNDS, GAS TAX IS STATIC.

WE NEED MORE MONEY FOR ROADS, WE'RE PLAYING A MASSIVE CATCH UP.

TAXPAYERS DO NOT TRUST GOVERNMENT TO SPEND ROAD MONEY ON ROADS.

PUBLIC WORKS BUDGET IS INADEQUATE.

PUBLIC WORKS DOES A GOOD JOB WITH THE FUNDS THAT THEY DO GET.

WE ARE DECADES BEHIND ON ROADS AND INFRASTRUCTURE.

YAVAPAI COUNTY IS IN ADOT'S PLANS.

WE'RE NOT KEEPING UP IN INFRASTRUCTURE.

ROADS AREN'T SAFE DUE TO SMALL ROADS AND LOTS OF TRAFFIC.

THE COUNTY'S ROLE, PLAN FOR AND BUILD ROADS; ENFORCE TRAFFIC LAWS AND WRITE TICKETS.

THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE DOES NOT HAVE DEDICATED TRAFFIC ENFORCEMENT UNIT, THIS IS NEEDED.

GOOD GOVERNANCE, VARIATIONS IN TAXATION AMONGST THE JURISDICTIONS.

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ALL OF THE CITIES AND THE COUNTY HAVE THEIR OWN TAXATION RULES AND STRATEGIES.

PRESCOTT HAS SALES AND PROPERTY TAX.

PRESCOTT VALLEY HAS SALES TAX ONLY.

CHINO VALLEY HAS SALES TAX ONLY.

NEED BUSINESSES FOR SALES TAX, WE NEED BUSINESSES FOR SALES TAX.

COUNTY HAS PROPERTY, SALES, LICENSES, PERMITS.

GENERAL FUND BALANCE AND STRUCTURAL DEFICIT.

WE NEEDED OVERALL FINANCIAL EVALUATION.

WE HAVE A STRUCTURAL DEFICIT OF 15 MILLION OUT OF $427 MILLION BUDGET.

RESERVES ARE VERY HIGH, 70 MILLION.

WE HAVE BEEN UNDER INVESTING.

EXPENDITURE LIMITS HAVE BEEN LIFTED.

WE NEED TO RESTRICT ONGOING REQUESTS AND INCREASE REVENUES.

THE EXAMPLE OF DIFFICULTIES IN REVENUE PROJECTIONS: IN 2023, THE BUDGET DEFICIT LOOKED LIKE A 23 MILLION DEFICIT THAT ENDED UP BEING A 7 MILLION SURPLUS.

THE QUESTION, WILL WE USE RESERVES FOR BUILDING PROJECTS? THE BOARD HAS BEEN IMPROVING SALARIES, 01,900 EMPLOYEES, THIS YEAR, 2.8% COLA AND UP TO 3% MERIT.

THE BOARD WILL NEED TO SUPPORT MEASURES TO LIMIT EXPENDITURES.

DOES THE BOARD UNDERSTAND THE STRUCTURE BUDGET DEFICIT? MAURY HAS DONE A LOT TO HELP.

TEN TO ELEVEN MILLION ONGOING DEFICIT AND 4-5 MILLION ONE-TIME EXPENDITURES.

DEPARTMENTS DO UNDERSTAND THE STRUCTURAL DEFICIT.

THIS YEAR, THE FIRST IN EIGHT YEARS, WE'RE NOW LOOKING AT PROPOSING A FLAT RATE TAX INCREASE.

WE'RE ONLY ONE OF TWO COUNTIES NOT DOING THAT YET.

WE HAVE TENTATIVE APPROVAL REGARDING THE FLAT RATE TAX INCREASE.

THE THE JAIL DISTRICT, 46% IS COVERED BY.25%.

THE JAIL DISTRICT DOES NOT PAY FOR ITSELF, AND THE COUNTY IS SUBSIDIZING ABOUT 14 MILLION A YEAR.

THE STRATEGIC PLAN WILL PROVIDE A ROADMAP FOR STAFF.

STAFF NEED TRAINING ON WHAT THE STRATEGIC PLAN MEANS TO THEM, REALLY IMPLEMENTATION.

THE BOARD VALUES GOOD CUSTOMER SERVICE.

WE HAVE VERY FEW PERFORMANCE MEASURES, OR PERFORMANCE INFORMATION.

WE ARE VERY IMPRESSED WITH COUNTY STAFF.

WE GO SIDEWAYS WHEN PERSONAL INTERESTS CHANGE OUR DIRECTION.

STANDARDIZATION OF WHAT WE'RE DOING, EXAMPLE OF APPROVING ROAD STANDARDS, IS IMPORTANT.

SHOULD WE RE-ADJUST OUR SUPERVISOR BOUNDARIES SO WE'RE NOT SPLITTING UP TOWNS AND CITIES? EXAMPLE, WICKENBURG.

TOWN HALLS ARE AN IMPORTANT OPPORTUNITY, AND WE NEED TO BRING STAFF DEPENDING ON THE ISSUE.

THE COUNTY HAS TO STAY FOCUSED ON RESULTS.

2020, 3 NEW MEMBERS ELECTED TO THE BOARD, 2022, COUNTY HIRED MAURY AS THE COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR.

THREE OF THE FIVE BOARD WANTED TO TRANSITION TO THE MANAGER FORM.

SOME NEW BOARD MEMBERS MAY OR MAY NOT WANT THE OLD AUTHORITY BACK.

THE STRATEGIC PLAN CAN HELP CLARIFY BOARD MEMBER ROLES MOVING FORWARD.

STAFFING. RECRUITMENT FOR BUDGET OFFICER, COST TO HOUSING IS AN ISSUE EVEN FOR HIGHER POSITIONS.

RECRUITMENTS FOR IT ARE REALLY CHALLENGING.

PAY IS NOW COMPETITIVE REGIONALLY.

WE'RE TRYING TO HIRE CURRENT RESIDENTS AND A HOUSING COST SOLUTION.

NEW HIRES HAVE TO LIVE FAR AWAY FROM THEIR WORK LOCATION.

IN THE PAST, YEAR OVER YEAR, THE BOARD LOWERED TAX RATES.

THERE HAVE BEEN MANY YEARS OF NEGLECT REGARDING STAFFING SALARIES.

EMPLOYEES HAVE NOT COME HERE FOR THE PAY.

PAY IS WAY OUT OF WHACK.

A STUDY WAS COMPLETED 3-4 YEARS AGO SHOWING EVERY POSITION NEEDED AN UPGRADE.

VOTERS HAVE NOW HAVE NOW INCREASED TAXING CAPACITY BY 127 MILLION A YEAR.

THIS BOARD WILL NOW HAVE TO ADDRESS THE ISSUE OF STAFF SALARIES AND WHETHER TO USE RESERVES.

A LOT OF UNFUNDED DEMAND FOR SERVICES AND STAFF SALARIES.

WE DO NOT HAVE ENOUGH STAFF TO MEET THE DEMAND FOR SERVICES.

SPACE AND PERSONNEL ARE AREAS THE COUNTY ARE UNDER, NOT SERVED.

2.2 MILLION PRIORITY FOR SPACE.

EVERYONE IS MAXED OUT IN TERMS OF SPACE.

THIS SLOWS SERVICE DELIVERY TO CUSTOMERS.

THE ELECTION OFFICE IS WAY UNDER RESOURCED.

THE COUNTY HAS BONDING AUTHORITY.

THE COUNTY HAS BEEN ON A CASH BASIS, AND WE HAVE A 120 MILLION IN THE BANK, EXCESS RESERVE.

WHERE IS TECHNOLOGY LEADING US? IT AND GIS ARE NOW INTEGRATED.

WHAT CAN WE DO? EFFICIENCIES ARE OBVIOUS.

REGARDING THE INCREASED DEMAND FOR SERVICES, LET'S USE TECHNOLOGY TO HELP US WHEN WE CAN.

WE HAVE AN OLDER POPULATION.

COUNTY HAS BEEN SLOW TO ADAPT.

AI IS HERE, AND HOW DO WE INTEGRATE IT? THERE HAS TO BE GUIDELINES AND GUIDANCE.

WE NEED A STRATEGIC PLANNING GOAL FOR AI USE.

REGIONAL COOPERATION.

ALL FIRE DEPARTMENTS DO WORK TOGETHER WHEN THERE'S AN EMERGENCY, BUT PEOPLE GET INTO FIEFTOMS AND SEGREGATE WHEN THEY'RE PLANNING.

THE SAME OCCURS WITH POLICE REGARDING EMERGENCIES AND PLANNING.

THERE IS A NEED FOR REGIONAL DISPATCH.

THE ELECTED COUNTY BOARD REPRESENTS ALL THE PEOPLE IN THE COUNTY.

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THE COUNTY HAS A CONVENER, FACILITATION ROLE IN REGARDS TO REGIONAL COLLABORATION.

THERE ARE SEVERAL IMPORTANT ISSUES WHERE THERE IS A LACK OF REGIONAL PLANNING.

HOUSING IS AN IMPORTANT PART OF OUR REGIONAL COOPERATION STRATEGY.

NO ONE IS PLANNING FOR DENSITY.

SOME PEOPLE DON'T WANT REGIONAL TRANSPORTATION, BUS STOPS BRING PEOPLE.

THE COUNTY SHOULD TAKE THE LEADERSHIP ROLE VERSUS THE UNELECTED BUREAUCRATS LIKE POLICE CHIEFS WHO WANT TO CONTROL.

THE COUNTY SHOULD HOLD FIRM IN ITS POLICY PERSPECTIVES AND APPLICATIONS. IT'S A LOT, ISN'T IT? HERE'S WHAT I WANT YOU TO THINK ABOUT.

I HAVE TO LOOK AT MY WATCH AND IT'S 10:40.

I WANT TO TAKE ABOUT A 10-15 MINUTE BREAK, CHAIR, IF THAT'S ACCEPTABLE.

>> NOW WE SPLIT SO WE CAN COME BACK AT 11.

>> HERE'S WHAT I WANT YOU TO THINK ABOUT.

YOU MAY NOT WANT TO THINK ABOUT ANYTHING.

I HOPE YOU DON'T RUN OUT OF THE PLACE AND NOT COME BACK, BUT HERE'S THE THING.

I WANT YOU TO THINK ABOUT, AT A HIGH LEVEL, THE ALIGNMENT THAT YOU SAW ACROSS THESE DIFFERENT GROUPS.

AS SOMEBODY AS MARV AND I WHO DO THIS A LOT OF PLACES? THERE WAS A TON OF ALIGNMENT, BOTH FROM YOUR CITY AND YOUR TOWN MANAGERS, TO YOUR DEPARTMENT OF AGENCY DIRECTORS TO YOU ALL AS AN ELECTED BODY.

THAT'S WHAT WE FOCUS ON IN THIS.

YOU DON'T HAVE TO AGREE WITH EVERYTHING THAT WAS SAID.

THAT'S NOT PRACTICAL, BUT THERE WAS A LOT OF ALIGNMENT.

WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT THAT, THAT'LL BE REALLY WHAT WE GET INTO WHEN WE GET BACK TOGETHER AT 11 O'CLOCK.

DOES THAT SOUND LIKE A PLAN? LET'S DO A BREAK. THANK YOU.

>> ALL RIGHT. WE ARE BACK IN SESSION, AND WE ARE READY TO GO.

>> WHAT I WANT TO DO, FIRST OF ALL, AS WE RECONVENE, IS I WANT TO TALK TO YOU ABOUT OUR RECOMMENDATION WOULD BE, WHAT TO TAKE ABOUT, A TAKE FROM WHAT YOU HEARD THIS MORNING.

TYLER, WILL YOU HAND THAT TO THE FOLKS JUST AROUND THE BACK?

>> DOES EVERYONE AT THE TABLE HAVE ONE OF THESE?

>> SEVERAL YEARS AGO, WHAT WE REALIZED IS THAT WE JUST PRESENTED YOU, I CALL THIS THE MATRIX, AND IT'S NOT KEANU REEVES.

WHAT WE LEARNED SEVERAL YEARS AGO IS THAT WE'RE PROVIDING BACK TO YOU SUCH A LARGE AMOUNT OF INFORMATION, THAT SOMETIMES IT'S HARD TO MAKE HEADS OR TAILS ABOUT WHAT IT'S TELLING YOU.

WHAT YOU HAVE HERE IN FRONT OF YOU IS JUST A MATRIX THAT IS ACROSS ALL THREE STAKEHOLDER GROUPS THAT WE TALKED WITH DIRECTLY IN THIS PROCESS AND WHETHER OR NOT THERE WAS ALIGNMENT ACROSS THOSE STAKEHOLDER GROUPS.

I'LL GIVE YOU A GREAT EXAMPLE.

I THINK IT'S PRETTY SELF-EXPLANATORY.

WHEN IT COMES TO HEALTHCARE, WHAT YOU CAN SEE IS THAT YOUR CITY AND YOUR TOWN MANAGERS, YOUR DEPARTMENT DIRECTORS, AND YOUR COUNTY SUPERVISORS AND ADMINISTRATORS ALL TALKED ABOUT HEALTH CARE.

SOME OF THE LITTLE PHRASES THAT WERE MENTIONED ARE TALKED ABOUT THERE.

HERE'S WHY THIS IS IMPORTANT.

IT'S BECAUSE WE WANT YOU, AS WE GO ALONG, TO THINK ABOUT ALIGNMENT.

THAT DOESN'T MEAN THAT YOU CAN'T COME UP WITH SOMETHING THAT'S WAY OFF, THAT'S NEW AND WAS NOT EVER TALKED ABOUT.

THAT'S YOUR PREROGATIVE AS AN ELECTED BODY.

BUT WHERE THERE IS ALIGNMENT, THAT MEANS NOT ONLY YOU ALL, BUT YOUR OPERATIONS AND YOUR COMMUNITY AND A LOT OF REGARDS ARE THINKING THE SAME THING.

I CAN TELL YOU A LITTLE BIT AS WE GO ALONG ABOUT SOME OF THE ALIGNMENT THAT I SAW IN SOME OF THE OTHER JURISDICTIONS THAT I JUST HAPPENED TO GO OUT AND LOOK INTO A LITTLE BIT WITHIN YAVAPAI COUNTY ABOUT SOME TOPICS THAT THEY WERE THINKING ABOUT.

I WANT YOU TO THINK ABOUT THIS.

THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE DON'T ALWAYS SEE IN JURISDICTIONS, AND WHEN WE DO, IT'S SOMETHING TO JUMP UPON AS PART OF THIS PROCESS.

IN ALIGNMENT WITH THAT AND SOMETHING THAT REALLY REINFORCES THIS, TYLER IS GOING TO TALK TO YOU ABOUT A SURVEY THAT WAS DONE THROUGH ZENCITY.

THAT REALLY TAKES THIS AND SUPERCHARGES IT.

TYLER, YOU WANT TO TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THAT? THANK YOU, JEREMY. YOU HAVE IN FRONT OF YOU, IT'S A LARGE PACKET FROM ZENCITY, AND I'LL JUST TURN YOUR ATTENTION, IF YOU WOULDN'T MIND, TO PAGE 13.

THAT'S THE HIGH LEVEL TAKEAWAY.

THE REST OF THAT PACKET INCLUDES DETAILED INFORMATION AND BREAKDOWN OF THESE FIVE AREAS OF STRENGTH AND FOCUS AS ZENCITY FOUND.

THERE'S A LOT OF METHODOLOGY, THERE'S BACKGROUND AND MORE DETAIL, BUT WE'LL JUST, FOR THE SAKE OF TIME AND EFFICIENCY, THESE FIVE AREAS ARE WHAT ROSE TO THE TOP, SO TO SPEAK, IN THESE SURVEY RESULTS OVER THE PAST SIX TO EIGHT MONTHS.

PUBLIC SAFETY, IT WAS RATED VERY HIGH.

THERE'S A LOT OF SATISFACTION WITH OUR PUBLIC SAFETY IN THE COUNTY.

PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION.

THIS MAY BE A SURPRISE, MAYBE NOT, BUT PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION RECEIVED THE LOWEST RATING IN THE COMMUNITY SURVEY AND WAS THE MOST REQUESTED AREA FOR WHAT THE COUNTY NEEDS TO IMPROVE.

HEALTH CARE SERVICES.

THERE'S SATISFACTION WITH COMMUNITY HEALTH SERVICES, AND IT WAS RELATIVELY HIGH, BUT AWARENESS OF RESOURCES REMAINED LOW.

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MAYBE IT'S A COMMUNICATIONS ISSUE.

THERE MIGHT ALSO BE SOME CONFUSION ON WHAT THE COUNTY PROVIDES VERSUS WHAT THE HEALTH CARE SECTOR IN GENERAL PROVIDES, AND WHERE IS THAT LINE DRAWN AND HOW CAN WE DISTINGUISH THAT BETTER? AFFORDABLE HOUSING. YOU'VE HEARD THAT MANY TIMES ALREADY THIS MORNING, AND THEN ABILITY TO PROVIDE INPUT.

THIS ONE MAY BE OF INTEREST TO YOU, KNOWING THAT OUR COMMUNITY RESULTS, THEY SHOW MODEST IMPROVEMENT, WE DID TWO OR THREE SURVEYS, THEY SHOWED IMPROVEMENT OVER TIME.

BUT THE RESIDENTS WANT TO ENGAGE WITH THE COUNTY MORE, AND THEY SPECIFICALLY SPEAK ON DIFFERENT METHODS TO DO THAT.

A LOT OF THAT DOES COME DOWN TO SOCIAL MEDIA, NOT SURPRISING.

THESE ARE FIVE LARGE AREAS THAT ROWS OR BUBBLED UP TO THE SURFACE FROM OUR COMMUNITY SURVEY RESULTS AND SOME OTHER INFORMATION THAT ZENCITY PROVIDED.

A LOT MORE DETAIL IN YOUR PACKET, BUT THIS IS WHAT WE HAVE FOR THE SUMMARY.

>> IF I COULD COMMENT REAL QUICKLY ON PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION, I WILL JUST SHARE WHEN I SAW THAT FIRST BEING REFLECTED IN OUR SURVEY RESULTS, I THOUGHT, THEY'VE GOT THAT LABELED WRONG.

IT'S TRANSPORTATION.

PEOPLE HERE ARE INTERESTED IN ROADS, ET CETERA.

THAT'S WHAT THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT.

IF YOU GO INTO THE DATA AND LOOK AT THE OPEN-ENDED COMMENTS, IT IS PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION.

I WAS VERY SURPRISED AT THE SENTIMENT BEING REFLECTED IN THIS COMMUNITY ABOUT THE NEED FOR TRUE PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION.

WE'VE, OF COURSE SHARED THAT INFORMATION WITH CYMPO AS THEY BEGIN TO LOOK AT THAT.

>> ONE OF THE THINGS I'LL TELL YOU, AND THIS HAS HAPPENED IN A FEW COMMUNITIES WE WORKED, IS WHAT I THINK YOU'RE GOING TO SEE OR WHAT WE SEE, AS FOLKS THAT ARE WORKING WITH YOU, IS A REALLY GOOD AMOUNT OF ALIGNMENT BETWEEN THIS SURVEY AND WHAT FOLKS ARE CONCERNED ABOUT OR HAVE A POSITIVE VIEW ON.

WHAT WE SAW IN OUR DIRECT INTERACTIONS WITH CITY AND TOWN MANAGERS, DEPARTMENT DIRECTORS, AND YOU ALL AS ELECTED OFFICIALS.

THE IDEA IS THAT KEEP THESE DOCUMENTS OUT AS WE BEGIN OUR CONVERSATIONS, BECAUSE AGAIN, WE WANT TO TRY TO STAY ABOUT WHAT ARE THE BIG RESULTS THAT WE WANT TO ACHIEVE FOR THE COUNTY AND FOR OUR COMMUNITY, RIGHT.

I THINK HAVING THESE THINGS IN FRONT OF YOU WE'LL BE ABLE TO SPUR ON OUR CONVERSATIONS AND SEE WHERE THERE WAS ALIGNMENT, MAYBE SEE WHERE THERE WAS AN ALIGNMENT.

I HOPE THESE TWO DOCUMENTS ARE HELPFUL FOR YOU.

WE WANT TO TALK ABOUT HOW WE'RE GOING TO MAKE DECISIONS AS WE GO THROUGHOUT THIS PROCESS OVER THE NEXT LITTLE BIT. I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT.

I'LL DO A LITTLE BIT OF IT AND HAVE MARV JUMP IN AND DO A LITTLE BIT OF IT.

YOU GUYS AS A PLANNING TEAM HERE AT THIS TABLE, YOU'RE ALL ACCOUNTABLE FOR THE STRATEGIC PLAN.

WHAT WE NEVER WANT TO GET IN A SITUATION AS WELL, AND THAT AGAIN, GOES TO WHY WE DON'T TAKE VOTES.

THIS IS THE COUNTY'S PLAN.

THIS IS THE COUNTY'S STRATEGIC PLAN.

IT'S NOT THREE OF YOUR PLAN AND NOT TWO OF YOU.

IT'S ALL OF YOU. AS THE ELECTED BODY.

THEREFORE, WHAT WE DO IS WE MAKE DECISIONS BASED UPON THE BEST INTEREST OF THE ENTIRE BOARD.

FOR MOST DECISIONS, IT'S MODIFIED CONSENSUS, MEANING WE WANT YOU TO AGREE ON IT, EVEN IF IT'S NOT YOUR FAVORITE THING.

I'LL GIVE YOU A GREAT EXAMPLE, IN CLACKAMAS COUNTY, OREGON WHERE WE JUST CAME.

YEARS AGO, THERE WAS A LADY NAMED MARTHA SCHRADER.

ONE OF HER BIGGEST, PASSIONATE AREAS WAS VETERANS HOMELESSNESS.

SHE WANTED TO GET A GOAL IN THERE ABOUT PROVIDING FOR VETERANS HOMELESSNESS.

THE OTHER FOLKS, THE OTHER FIVE MEMBERS ON THE BOARD THERE LIKE IT'S NOT MY THING, BUT LET'S DO IT. YOU KNOW WHAT? THEY DID IT.

THIS PAST TIME, ONE OF HER THINGS AND IT'S BEEN THIS WAY FOR YEARS WAS CHILDCARE, AFFORDABLE CHILDCARE.

SAME SITUATION, AND THAT'S NOT JUST LIMITED TO THAT ONE PERSON.

THE IDEA IS NOT EVERYBODY'S GOING TO BE ELATED TO THE MOON ABOUT EVERY TOPIC WE TALK ABOUT.

THE QUESTION IS, CAN YOU COME TOGETHER AS A BOARD TO SAY, YOU KNOW WHAT? ALL THESE ARE IMPORTANT. THEY MAY NOT ALL BE MY FAVORITE, BUT THEY'RE IMPORTANT. LET'S DO THEM.

>> WITHIN THIS STRUCTURE OF PRIORITY CATEGORIES THAT WE'LL TALK ABOUT IN JUST A MINUTE.

WITHIN THOSE CATEGORIES, THERE'S A LOT OF ROOM FOR IDEAS THAT YOU ALL AGREE EQUALLY ARE IMPORTANT AND IDEAS THAT MAYBE ONE OR ANOTHER OF YOU BELIEVE IS IMPORTANT AND THAT YOUR COLLEAGUES CAN AGREE TO SUPPORT EVEN THOUGH THEY DIDN'T NECESSARILY COME UP WITH IT.

>> WE HOPE TO COME OUT OF THIS PROCESS.

WE ALWAYS SAY, WE HOPE BECAUSE WE NEVER ARE GUARANTEED IS THAT WHEN YOU COME OUT OF THIS, YOU'RE ALL COMMITTED TO SUPPORTING THE PLAN.

WHAT WE DON'T WANT TO HAPPEN WE DON'T MAKE UP THE RULES ABOUT HOW FOLKS ACT OUTSIDE OF THIS PROCESS.

IT'S WHAT WE DON'T WANT TO HAPPEN IS YOU COME OUT HERE AND YOU SAY, YEAH, WE AGREE TO IT, AND THEN THE MOMENT SOMEBODY SAID, WELL, I DON'T LIKE THAT, I JUST DID IT.

>> WELL I DIDN'T AGREE WITH IT.

>> BECAUSE JUST AS SOMEBODY WHO DOES THIS FOR A LIVING, THAT JUST HURTS THE WHOLE EFFORT.

IT JUST CUTS EVERYBODY OFF AT THE KNEES, YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN?

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THE IDEA IS, CAN WE COME OUT OF THIS RETREAT WITH A REAL GOOD CONSENSUS ON WHAT YOU'RE TRYING TO ACHIEVE?

>> THAT'S DIFFERENT THAN WHAT YOU NORMALLY DO, WHICH IS TO VOTE.

>> STRATEGIC PRIORITIES. THAT'S OUR FIRST BIG DECISION POINT IN THIS STRATEGIC PLANNING RETREAT AND THE IDEA IS, WHAT DIRECTION SHOULD THE BOARD TAKE OVER THE NEXT 2-5 YEARS? NOW, LET ME SAY THIS BEFORE WE JUMP IN.

THAT DOESN'T MEAN WHAT'S THE ONLY DIRECTION THE COUNTY TAKES.

YOU HAVE A NUMBER OF OPERATIONAL DEPARTMENTS THAT PROVIDE SERVICES THAT ARE PROVIDING SERVICES RIGHT NOW TO THE COMMUNITY.

THOSE RESULTS AREN'T GOING YOUR WAY.

WHAT WE'RE SAYING IS, THIS IS A STRATEGIC PLAN, WHICH MEANS WE'RE STRATEGICALLY CHOOSING AREAS OF FOCUS THAT HAVE A REAL NEED ON YOUR COMMUNITY.

WHAT IT'S NOT IS A COMP PLAN, WHICH MEAN EVERYBODY GETS A PIECE.

IT'S STRATEGIC. IT'S NOT COMPREHENSIVE.

SOMETIMES IN THESE PROCESSES, I'LL GET SOMEBODY.

DO WE HAVE HR IN THE BUILDING? CAN I PICK ON YOU FOR JUST A SECOND.

I HAD A CITY HERE ONE TIME WHERE THE HR DIRECTOR CAME UP AND SAID, NOW, JEREMY, I DON'T SEE A GOAL IN OUR PLAN ABOUT HR.

I SAID, THAT'S GOOD.

THIS IS NOT AN EXERCISE IN GIVING EVERYBODY A GOAL.

IT'S WHERE'S THE NEED.

NOW, I WILL TELL YOU THIS.

REGARDLESS OF THE GOALS THAT YOU DEVELOP OVER THE NEXT TWO DAYS, HR AND FINANCE WILL PROBABLY NEED TO BE IN THE ROOMS FOR IMPLEMENTATION PLANNING BECAUSE YOU'VE GOT TO HAVE PEOPLE TO WORK ON THESE THINGS.

YOU GOT TO HAVE MONEY TO WORK ON THESE THINGS.

BUT THIS IS NOT AN EXERCISE IN GIVING EVERY DEPARTMENT SOMETHING TO DO.

THEY HAVE PLENTY TO DO ALREADY.

IT'S WHAT IS THE NEED? WHAT ARE STRATEGIC PRIORITIES? THEY EMERGE FROM THE MOST IMPORTANT ISSUES AFFECTING THE CUSTOMERS IN THE ORGANIZATION OVER THE NEXT COUPLE OF YEARS.

THEY'RE ARTICULATED AS BROAD AREAS OF FOCUS.

MEANING BIG WORDS, PUBLIC SAFETY, INFRASTRUCTURE, THOSE TYPES OF THINGS.

WHATEVER THEY MEAN. SOMETIMES PEOPLE WILL INCLUDE A PREAMBLE UNDERNEATH THE WORDS TO DESCRIBE WHAT THE COMMUNITY'S TALKING ABOUT.

IT'S NOT NECESSARY, BUT WE SEE IT SOMETIMES AND WE USUALLY SAY NO MORE THAN FIVE.

THE FIRST THING THAT SOMEBODY'S GOING TO ASK IS THERE SCIENCE BEHIND THIS.

CAN WE NOT HAVE SIX? OUR RECOMMENDATION HAS SAY NO MORE THAN FIVE.

WE'VE DONE THIS SINCE 1998, AND THE ONE JURISDICTION, I THINK THAT HAD MORE THAN FIVE IS TOO MUCH FOR THEM TO FOCUS ON.

BECAUSE YOU'VE GOT EVERYTHING ELSE YOU'RE DOING EVERY SINGLE DAY, OPERATIONALLY HAPPENING ALL THE TIME.

HAVING FIVE STRATEGIC PRIORITY AREAS IS PROBABLY THE MAX THAT YOU'RE GOING TO WANT TO HAVE.

WITHIN THE STRATEGIC PRIORITIES IS WHERE YOU PUT YOUR STRATEGIC GOALS, RESULTS THAT'LL BE DEVELOPED.

I'LL TELL YOU THIS AND ZACH WAS GIVING ME A HARD TIME ABOUT THE STORIES THAT I TELL.

BUT WE WORKED WITH ONE JURISDICTION THAT SINCE 2013 HAS NOT CHANGED THEIR STRATEGIC PRIORITIES. THEY'VE BEEN CONSISTENT.

NOW, WHAT HAS CHANGED? ARE THE GOALS UNDERNEATH AS THEY'VE MOVED FORWARD AND TRIED TO ACHIEVE THINGS FOR THEIR COUNTY.

THAT'S SOMETHING WE'VE SEEN IN SOME PLACES AND IN SOME AREAS, THE PRIORITIES HAVE CHANGED.

LET'S JUST SAY IN ONE COMMUNITY, SOMETHING HAPPENS RELATED TO PUBLIC SAFETY FOR SOME REASON.

WELL, THEY ADD THAT IF THEY HAVEN'T HAD IT BEFORE.

BUT THAT'S WHAT STRATEGIC PRIORITIES ARE ALL ABOUT.

WITHIN THOSE IS WHERE WE'RE GOING TO PUT OUR STRATEGIC GOALS OR OUR RESULTS, BUT WE FIRST HAVE TO DECIDE ON WHAT YOUR STRATEGIC PRIORITIES ARE.

NOW I WANT TO GET THIS CONVERSATION STARTED BY JUST PROVIDING BACK TO YOU WHAT WE HEARD IN OUR STAKEHOLDER ENGAGEMENT.

THIS IS DESIGNED TO BEGIN THE CONVERSATION. GOT IT.

WHAT WE HEARD IN OUR CONVERSATION AND THAT YOU SEE IN YOUR MATRIX ARE THESE CATEGORIES.

NOW, WHAT YOU NEED TO REALIZE IS THAT NONE OF THESE CATEGORIES ARE INDEPENDENT OF EACH OTHER.

I HOPE YOU NOTICED THAT EVERYTHING TIES TOGETHER.

ALL INTERTWINED. THANK YOU, MARK.

WHAT WE HEARD AND WHAT YOU SEE IN THE MATRIX IS FOLKS TALKED ABOUT AFFORDABILITY.

FOLKS TALKED ABOUT HOUSING.

FOLKS TALKED ABOUT HEALTH CARE.

THEY TALKED ABOUT ECONOMIC GROWTH AND STRENGTH, INFRASTRUCTURE, THE ENVIRONMENT, PUBLIC SAFETY AND GOOD GOVERNANCE.

THOSE ARE SEVEN TOPIC AREAS, WHICH SOME OF THOSE COULD BECOME YOUR STRATEGIC PRIORITIES.

THAT WHAT I WANT YOU TO NOTE IS SOME OF THESE COULD GO UNDER OTHERS.

I'LL GIVE YOU A QUICK EXAMPLE OF THAT.

LET'S JUST SAY YOU WANTED TO

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HAVE A STRATEGIC PRIORITY ABOUT A VIBRANT ECONOMY OR ECONOMIC GROWTH IN STRENGTH.

YOU COULD PUT UNDERNEATH THAT AFFORDABILITY.

YOU COULD PUT HOUSING.

YOU COULD PUT A LOT OF THINGS.

THESE THINGS THE CONVERSATION WE'RE GETTING READY TO HAVE IS ABOUT WHAT ARE THOSE UMBRELLA TYPE CATEGORIES? MY QUESTION TO YOU IS, IS THERE ANYTHING UP HERE THAT'S OBVIOUS WHERE YOU SAY, AS A COUNTY, WE GOT TO DO THIS.

WE GOT TO FOCUS ON THIS TOPIC.

I'M GOING TO OPEN THIS UP. CONVERSATION.

>> CAN I. THANK YOU ALL.

ONE THING THAT I'VE REALLY THOUGHT ABOUT AND FOCUSED ON IS WHEN I THINK OF HOW TO BUILD A VISION, IT'S HELPFUL FOR ME TO REALLY GO DEEP INTO THE PAST AND UNDERSTAND, WHY DO GOVERNMENTS EVEN FORM TO BEGIN WITH? WHAT ARE WE REALLY HERE FOR? ONE THING I LEARNED ABOUT A NUMBER OF YEARS AGO IS THE PRINCIPLES THAT THE REASONS WHY ARIZONA EVEN BECAME A TERRITORY WAY BACK IN THE DAY.

THERE WERE THREE THINGS.

ONE WAS INFRASTRUCTURE ROADS.

SCHOOLS, WHICH, LUCKILY, THIS GROUP DOESN'T HAVE TO DEAL WITH DIRECTLY, AND THEN DELIVERING WATER AND DEALING WITH SEWAGE.

THOSE REALLY ARE SOME REAL CORE THINGS AND I WANT TO, FOCUS.

I'M GIVING AN ENDORSEMENT FOR INFRASTRUCTURE HERE IN THIS MEANDERING STORY.

BUT AND THE REASONS WHY IS, I THINK AS A COUNTY, IT'S CLEAR THAT WE'VE UNDERINVESTED OVER DECADES, PROBABLY.

THERE ARE SOME SITUATIONS THAT NEED RESOLVE AND INFRASTRUCTURE THAT NEEDS TO BE BUILT TO JUST MEET THE BASIC STANDARDS OF OUR OPERATIONS.

AT THE SAME TIME, I WANT TO INVITE THIS GROUP TO REALLY THINK ABOUT CREATING OPPORTUNITIES AND I THINK THOSE OPPORTUNITIES COME THROUGH STRATEGIC INFRASTRUCTURE PLACEMENTS.

BE VERY EASY TO GET CAUGHT UP INTO HOW FAR BEHIND WE ARE HERE OR THERE AND WHY THOSE ARE THE PRIORITIES.

I AGREE THAT WE SHOULD BE THINKING THAT WAY.

BUT I THINK IT'S OUR DUTY TO THINK ABOUT HOW TO CREATE OPPORTUNITIES AND INFRASTRUCTURE DOES CREATE OPPORTUNITIES FOR HOUSING IF IT'S DONE RIGHT AND ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AND A NUMBER OF OTHER THINGS.

THAT'S MY LITTLE BIT.

THANKS FOR LISTENING.

>> IF I MAY, I MIGHT TAKE A LITTLE DIFFERENT TACT IN TRYING TO NARROW DOWN THIS GROUP.

FOR ME, AFFORDABILITY, SURPRISINGLY ENOUGH, DIDN'T SHOW UP UNDER THE CITY AND TOWN MANAGERS.

>> CORRECT.

>> WHICH IS INTERESTING TO ME.

BUT WHEN I HEAR FOLKS IN THIS COUNTY TALK ABOUT AFFORDABILITY, I DON'T KNOW THAT I HEAR THAT IN MOST REGARDS OUTSIDE OF THE HOUSING PIECE.

THOSE TO ME SEEMED TO BE SO INTERTWINED, ALMOST THE SAME THING.

I THINK YOU COULD COMBINE THOSE TWO.

GIVES US ONE OFF THE CHART.

>> LISTEN, WHAT I WILL TELL YOU IS, IF I'D KNOWN IN 2002 HOW MUCH I USED THESE THREE M OR POST IT, I WOULD HAVE BOUGHT STOCK.

BUT WHEN I'M SCRATCHING AROUND ON THIS, THE BEAUTY IS THAT IF I MAKE A MISTAKE, I'LL REWRITE IT.

WE'LL GET THIS RIGHT. JUST KNOW THAT WE'RE SCRATCHING AROUND, AND THIS IS VERY MUCH A WORKING PROCESS AS WE GO.

>> I'D LIKE TO FOLLOW UP ON WHAT YOU SAID, SUPERVISOR ABOUT INFRASTRUCTURE AND OF COURSE, YOU COULD SEE IN THE MATRIX, THIS IS A VERY CONSISTENTLY DISCUSSED ISSUE.

WITHIN INFRASTRUCTURE, YOU CAN DO A LOT OF DIFFERENT THINGS.

AS YOU CAN SEE, WE ORGANIZED, TOPICS WITHIN INFRASTRUCTURE.

THERE'S A LOT THERE.

I GUESS I WANT TO ASK, IS THERE A CONSENSUS THAT YOU WOULD WANT INFRASTRUCTURE TO BE ONE OF YOUR PRIORITIES?

>> WELL, CERTAINLY, I CONCUR WITH SUPERVISOR CHECK AND REFERENCE INFRASTRUCTURE AND BUILDINGS, AND WE HEARD IT THROUGHOUT THIS ABOUT STAFF, SPACE.

WE HAVE CHAIR MALLORY, HOW LONG HAVE YOU BEEN DISCUSSING GURLEY STREET, FIVE, SIX, SEVEN YEARS, HOWEVER LONG IT'S BEEN? FOR ME, I'M READY TO GO NOW.

I DON'T WANT TO WAIT. IN TERMS OF INFRASTRUCTURE, SUPERVISOR COULD CERTAINLY KNOWS WHAT HE NEEDS UP IN HIS NORTHERN AREA.

SUPERVISOR CHECK, CERTAINLY KNOWS WHAT SHE NEEDS OVER IN TERMS OF SHERIFF SUBSTATION, MULTI USE FACILITIES.

I CERTAINLY KNOW WHAT I NEED IN MY DISTRICT.

I THINK THOSE THREE PROJECTS PLUS GURLEY STREET ARE READY TO GO NOW.

I DON'T WANT TO BE, NOW I WANT.

WE'VE BEEN SITTING ON THESE FOR WAY TOO LONG.

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WE'RE READY TO GO. THE FUNDING MECHANISMS ARE IN PLACE, AND THE THREE SUBSTATION AREAS REALLY AREN'T IN THE GRAND SCHEME AS EXPENSIVE AS OTHER THINGS ARE, BUT WE HAVE TO MOVE FORWARD NOW WITH GURLEY STREET IN REFERENCE TO 911.

WE CAN'T DO ANYTHING UNTIL WE MOVE 911.

FOR ME, MOVING 911, GURLEY STREET, THE MULTI USE FACILITIES, OUT IN THE THREE RURAL AREAS ARE MY TOP PRIORITY AT THIS PARTICULAR POINT, SO WE CAN GET STAFF THE RELIEF THAT THEY NEED IN TERMS OF SPACE.

>> ORGANIZING SO GO AHEAD.

>> GO AHEAD. YOU'RE GOING TO ASK A QUESTION.

>> ORGANIZING. THOSE BUILDINGS, AND WE HEARD THAT FROM EVERYBODY.

COULD BE ONE RESULT UNDERNEATH THE TOPIC OF INFRASTRUCTURE.

>> YES, EXACTLY, AND IT'S A VERY OBTAINABLE BECAUSE SO MANY THINGS ARE READY TO GO ON THESE PROJECTS TO WHERE WE COULD HAVE THESE MULTI USE FACILITIES BUILT IN THREE YEARS, THREE PROJECTS DONE IN THREE YEARS, SO WE WOULD HAVE THOSE RESULTS.

THE VERY OBTAINABLE RESULT RIGHT NOW AND IT BEFUDDLES ME WHY IT TAKES SO LONG.

BUT THAT'S JUST GOVERNMENTS.

>> GOING BACK TO MARK'S QUESTION, AND I KNOW YOU'RE GETTING TO SAY THAT.

WHAT DO YOU GUYS THINK ABOUT SAYING, HEY, LISTEN, INFRASTRUCTURE.

WE'RE GOING TO GET TO THE NEXT PART HERE IN A LITTLE BIT.

INFRASTRUCTURE IS ONE OF OUR PRIORITIES GOING FORWARD.

AT LEAST AT A THEME L LEVEL.

>> MEMORY.

>> YOU GO.

>> FOR ME, AS LONG AS INFRASTRUCTURE INCLUDES MULTIPLE THINGS.

IT'S NOT JUST FACILITIES.

WATER IS RE OCCURRING.

WATER HAS TO APPEAR SOMEWHERE IN THIS PLAN AND TRANSPORTATION.

IF YOU WANT TO INCLUDE THOSE THINGS, THEN INFRASTRUCTURE IS A TOP LEVEL, AS LONG AS WE INCLUDE THESE THINGS THAT ARE REALLY A RE OCCURRING THING THROUGHOUT EVERYBODY'S INPUT.

>> THAT'S GREAT COMMENT.

>> INFRASTRUCTURE?

>> YES. WE'RE ON THAT ONE. I AGREE.

>> CAN I ELABORATE SINCE I BROUGHT IT UP AS FAR AS WHAT I WAS SAYING THAT WE HAVEN'T REALLY CONSIDERED OUR ROAD PROJECTS.

I KNOW THAT MY DISTRICT THREE, WHICH IS THE VERDE VALLEY OR THE, SEDONA, COTTONWOOD, JEROME, CLARKDALE AREA.

>> YOU JUST SAY EVERYTHING BUT CAMP VERDE.

>> EVERYTHING BUT CAMP VERDE AND CORNVILLE AND RIMROCK.

THAT'S SUPERVISOR JENKINS.

BUT ANYWAYS, THERE ARE OPPORTUNITIES FOR GROWTH AND HOUSING, AND THEY'RE NOT BEING PUSHED FORWARD BECAUSE THERE AREN'T ADDITIONAL ROADS.

I'M TALKING BRAND NEW ROADS AND JUST FOR THE RECORD, I KNOW IT WAS NOTED THAT SOMEONE SAID THAT THE VERDE VALLEY DIDN'T HAVE A TRANSPORTATION ORGANIZATION.

WHAT THEY MEANT WAS THAT WE DON'T HAVE A METROPOLITAN PLANNING ORGANIZATION.

KUKNYO IS OUR TRANSPORTATION REPRESENTATIVE.

I CHAIR ALONGSIDE D JENKINS, OUR VERDE VALLEY TRANSPORTATION PLANNING ORGANIZATION.

WE ARE IN THE MIDDLE OF THAT MASTER PLAN UPDATE AND I EXPECT THAT BY EARLY 2026, WE WILL HAVE SOME REGIONAL TRANSPORTATION PRIORITIES.

THINKING THROUGH HOW WE INTEGRATE THOSE INTO THIS DISCUSSION, I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO LEAVE THAT DOOR OPEN BECAUSE THAT ABSOLUTELY COULD CREATE DIRECT OPPORTUNITIES TO IMPROVE HOUSING AND CIRCULATION AND NEW BUSINESSES AND ALL THAT.

>> THAT'S A GREAT COMMENT TO CONNECT THE DOTS.

YOU WILL SEE, I KNOW JEREMY MENTIONED THIS EARLIER, ALL OF THESE WILL BE INTERRELATED.

INFLUENCING ONE WILL AFFECT OTHERS, AND THAT'S NORMAL.

>> WHAT I WANTED TO SAY AS WE'RE TALKING ABOUT INFRASTRUCTURE.

I FIND IT VERY INTERESTING TO GO AHEAD AND USE PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION, EVEN AROUND HERE.

BECAUSE THEN YOU'RE GOING TO REALLY UNDERSTAND HOW THE CONNECTION WORKS.

MY HUSBAND AND I GO TO SEDONA A LOT.

I CAN TELL ANYBODY HOW TO CATCH ALL THOSE BUSES THAT ARE THERE, THEY'LL TAKE YOU TO THE HIKING TRAILS.

THEN FROM THERE, YOU CAN CATCH ANOTHER ONE THAT'LL TAKE YOU A DIFFERENT DIRECTION.

YESTERDAY FOR THE HECK OF IT.

KUKNYO AND I TOOK OFF FOR A WALK, WE WALKED TO CHURCH, WENT TO CHURCH, THEN WE WALKED HERE AND THERE, AND I SAID, WELL, HEY, I THINK THAT SIMPLE HAS THIS YAV LINE.

LET ME SEE IF WE CAN CATCH IT UP.

WELL, IT DOESN'T WORK ON SATURDAY AND SUNDAY.

I'M JUST SAYING THAT MONDAY THROUGH FRIDAY IS WHEN IT RUNS.

CAR OR NO CAR.

I THINK THE BEST WAY FOR ANYBODY TO UNDERSTAND HOW THIS PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION WORKS IS TO EXPERIENCE IT AND TRY TO CONNECT.

I WILL TELL YOU SEDONA AND VERDE, THE COTTONWOOD, ALL OF IT.

I FIND IT WONDERFUL BECAUSE IT'S VERY HARD TO DRIVE AROUND THOSE AREAS.

YOU'RE DOING A GREAT JOB, LADIES WITH ALL OF THAT. I THINK IT'S FABULOUS.

I KNOW WE'RE ALL COLLABORATING WITH THAT.

BUT I LIKE IT.

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>> WELL, CHERRY, I JUST WANTED TO NOTE.

WE HAVE THE TRANSPORTATION MASTER PLAN COMING TOGETHER.

BUT AFTER THAT, THEY'RE ACTUALLY GOING TO DO A SEPARATE TRANSIT PLANNING SESSION AND EVEN THOUGH THE VERDE VALLEY IS AHEAD OF THE GAME, THERE'S STILL A LOT OF HOLES IN THAT OR YAVAPAI-APACHE NATIONS TRANSITS NOT BEING LEVERAGED, THEY IT COULD BE.

THERE STILL TENDS TO DO, BUT I APPRECIATE YOU BRINGING THAT UP.

>> EXCELLENT.

>> QUESTION. WE'VE COME TO CONSENSUS THAT WE KNOW AT A HIGH LEVEL INFRASTRUCTURE IS GOING TO BE ONE OF OUR STRATEGIC PRIORITY AREAS.

AS WE GET ALONG THIS AFTERNOON AFTER LUNCH, ONE OF THE BIG QUESTIONS IS, WHAT ARE THE THINGS UNDERNEATH IT THAT WE WANT TO PUT FOR THIS ITERATION OF YOUR STRATEGIC PLAN? NOW, MALLORY MENTIONED SOMETHING ABOUT AFFORDABILITY AND HOUSING.

>> BEFORE WE GO THERE, JEREMY, CAN WE ACTUALLY DEFINE WHAT WE MEAN BY INFRASTRUCTURE, SO WE DON'T LOSE IT? IS THAT I'M GETTING.

>> I WOULD WAIT BECAUSE HERE IS THE THING THAT'S GOING TO TAKE US DOWN A HOLE AND I WANT TO KEEP BECAUSE WHATEVER WE WANT, WE CAN PUT IN THERE.

I'VE SEEN IT BE A LOT OF DIFFERENT THINGS.

BUT AT AT A HIGH LEVEL, WE'VE GOT INFRASTRUCTURE.

WE'RE NOT GOING TO MISS THAT OPPORTUNITY.

YOU MENTIONED THIS IDEA THAT AFFORDABILITY WAS TALKED ABOUT BY TWO OF THE THREE STAKEHOLDER ENGAGEMENT GROUPS, BUT NOT THE THIRD.

BUT IT WAS REALLY IN BOTH OF THOSE AREAS THAT TALKED ABOUT IT, THEY WERE REALLY REFERRING TO HOUSING.

NOW, MY QUESTION TO YOU IS AND IT COMES DOWN TO A LITTLE BIT OF AN ART OF SCIENCE.

IS HOUSING A TOPIC THAT IN AND OF ITSELF NEEDS TO BE UP HERE OR IF IT OR DOES IT FIT WITHIN SOMEWHERE ELSE OR NOT AT ALL?

>> I'VE ALREADY BROUGHT THIS UP ABOUT AN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT WITHIN THE COUNTY.

IF THAT COULD ADDRESS HOUSING SOME OTHER ISSUES, I COULD FALL UNDER THAT UMBRELLA.

>> YES, MA'AM. THANK YOU.

>> I'VE NOT HEARD ANY DISCUSSION ABOUT HOUSING, A NEW DEPARTMENT.

SINCE THIS HAS COME UP A COUPLE OF TIMES, CAN WE JUST TALK THROUGH THAT? BECAUSE I SEE OUR CURRENT SYSTEM RIGHT NOW IS KIND OF SUPPORTING THE ECONOMIC ORGANIZATIONS THAT WE HAVE ALREADY AND THROUGH VERY DIRECT MEANS HAVING SOME MONEY GO TOWARDS MICRO LOAN PROJECTS AND DIRECTLY SORT OF TO FACILITATE THOSE THINGS.

BUT WHAT IS THE VISION THERE AND MAYBE I JUST HAVEN'T BEEN A PART OF THOSE CONVERSATIONS? HAS IT BEEN A CONVERSATION THAT CAME THROUGH MULTIPLE AVENUES OR.

>> THANK YOU, SUPERVISOR. I WOULD START WITH JUST MY REACTION TO THE INFORMATION.

I WAS QUITE FRANKLY SHOCKED THAT IT CAME THROUGH THAT LOUD AND THAT STRONG FROM SO MANY DIFFERENT AREAS. LET ME BE CLEAR.

I'VE NEVER TALKED ABOUT CREATING A NEW DEPARTMENT OF ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.

THERE HAS BEEN SOME GENERAL CONVERSATION STARTED WITH THE LAST BOARD ABOUT CONSISTENT WITH WHAT WE'VE SEEN.

WHAT IS THE ROLE OF ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT IN THE COUNTY? SHOULD THE COUNTY BE INVOLVED IN THOSE CONVERSATIONS.

AGAIN, LIKE WATER, NOT SAYING WE'RE GOING TO STEP IN AND TAKE CHARGE, BUT IS THERE A ROLE FOR CONVENING, FACILITATING CONVERSATIONS, AND DOES THE COUNTY HAVE A GROWING ROLE IN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT?

>> WELL, I'LL JUST NOTE THAT IT'S DISPARATE.

LIKE VERDI VALLEY HAS A GREAT REGIONAL ECONOMIC ORGANIZATION, AND NOT EVERY PART OF THE COUNTY HAS THAT.

THAT'S PROBABLY WHERE SOME OF THAT DESIRE IS COMING FROM.

>> I'LL STEP US BACK A LITTLE BIT AND GIVE YOU ANOTHER THEN OPTION HERE.

BECAUSE THIS IS A WAY THAT SOME FOLKS IN OTHER PLACES HAVE POSITIONED IT.

THIS IDEA OF ECONOMIC GROWTH AND STRENGTH IS A PRIORITY OR VIBRANT ECONOMY.

BECAUSE UNDER IF THAT WAS SOMETHING WE HEARD, AND UNDERNEATH THAT, YOU COULD PUT A LOT OF THINGS. JUST LIKE INFRASTRUCTURE.

BUT THE IDEA IS RIGHT NOW, WE KNOW, AT LEAST AT THIS POINT, INFRASTRUCTURE, TO SOME DEGREE IS ONE OF YOUR PRIORITIES, AND YOU'RE GOING TO DO SOME STUFF UNDER THAT GOING FORWARD TO BE DETERMINED.

IS ECONOMIC GROWTH AND STRENGTH, OR SOMETHING SIMILAR, A PRIORITY FOR YOU GUYS? IS THAT IMPORTANT?

>> WELL, I WOULD SAY FOR ME.

I'M THE PERSON THAT'S GOING TO SAY RIGHT NOW AT THIS TABLE.

I HAVEN'T REALLY THOUGHT ABOUT IT ALL THAT MUCH.

I'VE BEEN INVOLVED IN A LOT OF THIS DIFFERENT TYPES OF THINGS THROUGHOUT THESE YEARS.

MUNICIPALITIES HAVE THEIR OWN DEPARTMENT, AS WE ALL KNOW.

BUT I'M JUST HERE TO TELL MY FELLOW BOARD MEMBERS THAT, YOU KNOW WHAT? HEY, I CAN GET ON BOARD WITH THAT.

IF THAT'S SOMETHING THAT YOU'RE THINKING ABOUT, AND WHAT DOES THAT LOOK LIKE? WE WILL HAVE TO STAY IN OUR OWN LANE.

DO WE DO IT REGIONALLY? HOW WILL THE MUNICIPALITIES WORK WITH US? WHAT DOES ALL THAT LOOK LIKE? THAT'S HONESTLY WHERE WE GET.

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WE WANT TO WORK TOGETHER, BUT NOW YOU'RE IN MY LANE.

WELL, WE'RE ALL GOING TO HAVE TO INTERACT THESE LANES TOGETHER SO WE CAN TRY TO BUILD THIS THING.

WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO ALL PLAY GOOD IN THAT SANDBOX.

>> I'M LIKE, IT DOESN'T MATTER TO ME AS LONG AS WE FIND A PLACE FOR HOUSING.

THAT IS A REOCCURRING THEME EVERYWHERE WE GO.

IT AFFECTS EVERYTHING WE'RE DOING FROM BEING ABLE TO HIRE PEOPLE, RETAIN PEOPLE.

KEEPING THE PEOPLE FROM MOVING AWAY, THE YOUNGER GENERATION BECAUSE THEY CAN'T AFFORD HOUSING.

WE HAVE TO FIND A PLACE THAT WE ADDRESS HOUSING.

I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S ITS OWN ITEM OR IF IT FALLS UNDER THIS BROADER UMBRELLA OF ADDRESSING ECONOMIC GROWTH THROUGHOUT THE UNINCORPORATED AREAS WHEN WE'RE FACED WITH SUBDIVISIONS OR PADS AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

HOW DO WE ADDRESS THAT AND MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE DOING THE RIGHT THING FOR GROWTH THROUGHOUT THE UNINCORPORATED AREAS?

>> SOMEHOW THAT'S REALLY A GREAT WAY TO DRAW THIS QUESTION TO YOU.

IS HOUSING ITS OWN PRIORITY, AND THAT'S HOW YOU TALKED ABOUT IT, OR IS IT A RESULT THAT YOU WOULD FOCUS ON WITHIN THE CONTEXT OF ECONOMIC GROWTH AND STRENGTH? AGAIN, THIS IS VERY MUCH ABOUT HOW YOU WANT TO TALK ABOUT THIS.

IF THERE'S CONSENSUS FOR [INAUDIBLE] THERE'S CONSENSUS ABOUT THIS [INAUDIBLE].

THAT COULD BE IN A VERY SPECIFIC STRATEGIC RESULT.

OR IT CAN BE AT THE SAME LEVEL AS INFRASTRUCTURE IN TERMS OF THE FOCUS IN TERMS OF HOW YOU TALK ABOUT IT AND HOW YOU MAKE DECISIONS ABOUT IT.

I THINK THAT'S THE QUESTION IT'S REALLY HERE.

IS ITS OWN PRIORITY OR IS IT SOMETHING THAT TUCKS WITHIN ECONOMIC STRENGTH OF [INAUDIBLE]?

>> MADAM CHAIR. YEAH, I THINK IT'S THE FACT THAT I THINK DENSITY HAS BEEN SAID TO BE A DIRTY WORD.

I LIKE THAT REVERBERATED WITHIN THERE.

THERE'S SOME HISTORY HERE AND THERE'S TRUE EMOTIONS ASSOCIATED WITH HOUSING PROJECTS.

I THINK WHAT'S REALLY NOTABLE ABOUT OUR HOUSING SITUATION IS THAT IT IS NO LONGER SOMETHING THAT JUST IMPACTS LOW INCOME FAMILIES.

I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE SAYING ABOUT REFRAMING THAT AS AN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT CORNERSTONE, BECAUSE HOW CAN WE? BUT I APPRECIATE YOU OFFERING UP A REFRAME, AND I THINK THAT PROBABLY RESONATES MORE WITH OUR CONSTITUENTS THAN JUST GENERAL HOUSING AS A TOPIC, EVEN THOUGH CERTAINLY IS A BROAD AND IMPORTANT TOPIC ALL THE WAY DOWN.

BUT THE FACT THAT POLICE OFFICERS AND SCHOOL TEACHERS AND NURSES AND THESE CORE INDIVIDUALS AND COUNTY STAFF INCLUDED AS WELL, IT'S BECOMING A PROBLEM FOR EVERY LEVEL OF OUR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT STRATEGY.

YEAH, I THINK I AM SUPPORTIVE OF EXPLORING HOW WE TALK ABOUT IT FROM THAT STANDPOINT INSTEAD OF JUST GETTING DENSITY AND APARTMENTS AND THIS, THAT AND THE OTHER.

BUT I DO WANT TO SAY THAT I THINK ONE OF THE BIGGEST OPPORTUNITIES FOR THE COUNTY TO MOVE THAT NEEDLE FORWARD IS THROUGH OUR ZONING ORDINANCE UPDATE AND IDENTIFYING SOME APPROPRIATE AREAS TO HAVE BY RIGHT DENSITY INCREASES IN A WAY THAT GIVES, AND I THINK IT IS JUST REALLY CRITICAL TO DO THAT IN BALANCE.

ALL OF OUR PROCESSES NEED TO SORT WORK TOGETHER TO MAINTAIN THAT OPEN SPACE AND RURAL CHARACTER AND STILL MOVE THE NEEDLE ON THAT ISSUE.

>> WELL, AS ALWAYS, WE CAN DO TWO THINGS [INAUDIBLE].

YOU CAN ADDRESS HOUSING, AND YOU CAN ALSO PUT IN CONTEXT A HIGH PRIORITY ON [INAUDIBLE] WHAT YOU'D LIKE TO DO?

>> I MEAN, I SEE HOUSING AS ITS OWN THING BECAUSE THE TOTALITY AND SIZE OF IT.

WHAT WE'RE DEALING WITH A SUPERVISOR CHECK IS CORRECT? IN REFERENCE TO REDOING THE ZONING REGULATIONS.

I THINK IT CAN BE ADOPTED THROUGH THERE.

BUT I WOULDN'T MYSELF PERSONALLY INCLUDE IT.

I MEAN, WHILE IT IS PART OF ECONOMIC GROWTH AND STRENGTH, AND I UNDERSTAND THAT.

BUT IT'S THE SIZE OF THE PARTICULAR PROJECT, I'D SILO IT.

>> THIS IS WHERE THIS PROCESS, AGAIN, IS IT CAN BE AN ART OF SCIENCE.

BECAUSE IT'S ALL HOW YOU WANT TO TELL THE STORY.

WE'VE WORKED IN PLACES WHERE HOUSING, WHATEVER THE SITUATION IS.

THEY PUT IT A PART OF ECONOMIC GROWTH OR VIBRANT ECONOMY BECAUSE THERE'S NEED OF THAT APPROACH.

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SOME FOLKS HAVE SAID, YES, BUT IT'S IMPORTANT ENOUGH THAT IT'S BROUGHT OUT ON ITS OWN.

IT'S JUST HOW YOU ALL, AS A GROUP, WENT TO TELL THAT STORY.

BUT THE GOALS UNDERNEATH MAY BE THE SAME.

IT'S JUST WHERE YOU PUT IT.

>> THAT'S THE POINT I WAS TRYING TO GET TO IS BECAUSE IT'S BROUGHT UP SO MUCH.

IF YOU PUT IT OUT ON ITS OWN, OUR CUSTOMERS UNDERSTAND THAT WE'RE DEALING WITH THAT PARTICULAR PROJECT, I MEAN,

SUBJECT ON ITS OWN BECAUSE OF ITS IMPORTANCE AND IN ADDITION, THE TOTALITY OF IT. >> [INAUDIBLE].

>> I'M GOING TO PUT UP HOUSING.

DO I ALSO PUT UP A CONSENSUS.

[LAUGHTER] THAT'S ALL RIGHT. SORT YOU. GO RIGHT AHEAD.

I WAS GOING TO SAY, DO WE ALSO GO, EVEN THOUGH WE'RE BREAKING OUT HOUSING AS A PART OF IT.

IT'S HIGH ENOUGH THAT WE'RE FOCUSING ON IT, IS THERE STILL THAT PRIORITY OF ECONOMIC GROWTH AND STRENGTH, WHICH MAY INCLUDE OTHER THINGS?

>> I WOULD SAY THAT AS I AGREE, IT IS A SEPARATE TOPIC, BUT AT THE SAME TIME, WHEN YOU ARE SUPPLYING THE HOUSING, YOU'RE GROWING THIS ECONOMIC.

YOU'RE BRINGING STRENGTH TO THE PEOPLE WHO ARE ABLE TO FIND THIS PLACE TO LIVE, GET THESE JOBS, AND DO THOSE KIND OF THINGS.

WELL, I DON'T KNOW.

MAYBE I'M GOING TOO FAR DOWN THE RABBIT HOLE.

YOU'LL HAVE TO PULL ME BACK OUT OR THROW ME A ROPE.

ECONOMIC GROWTH AND STRENGTH WILL ABSOLUTELY GROW AS WE DO OUR INFRASTRUCTURE AND LOOK AT THIS HOUSING.

BECAUSE AS YOU SAID, VICE CHAIR, WE HAVE SOME THINGS THAT ARE STOPPING US UP HERE, AND WE GOT TO GET THEM OUT OF THE WAY.

YOU BOARD ARE THE FUTURE OF YAVAPAI COUNTY.

IF WE CAN GET THROUGH SOME OF THE THINGS FROM THE PAST, IT MOVES YOU TO YOUR MORE FUTURE, YOU MORE STRONGER GROWTH THROUGH YOUR HOUSING AND YOUR ROADS, AND WHEN IT DOES COME TO ROADS, ROADS, YOU NEED TO HAVE THE POLITICAL WILL AND SAY, WE'RE DOING THIS BECAUSE IT HAS TO HAPPEN.

THERE'S 250,000 PEOPLE IN THIS COUNTY, AND WE ALL ARE DEALING WITH THAT, AND WE'VE GOT TO HAVE THAT WILL TO GO FORWARD TO DO THE RIGHT THING.

>> CHAIR, POINT WELL TAKEN, AND WHAT YOU COULD SAY IN THIS, AND AGAIN, THIS IS HOW THIS WORKS.

EVERYTHING TIES TO EVERYTHING.

I MEAN, IF YOU DO YOUR JOB ON INFRASTRUCTURE, JUST BASED UPON THE CONVERSATION THAT I HEARD YOU HAVING EARLIER, AND LET'S JUST SAY YOU DO YOUR JOB ON HOUSING, THINK ABOUT IT AT A HIGH LEVEL.

IT'S GOING TO IMPACT WHETHER YOU GROWING IN STRONG COMMUNITY.

BUT THERE MAY BE SOMETHING UNDERNEATH THAT SPECIFIC ECONOMIC GROWTH THAT IT NEEDS ITS OWN TOO.

ALL OF THESE ARE TIED TOGETHER.

WE WORK WITH A JURISDICTION IN VIRGINIA THAT HAS IGNORED INFRASTRUCTURE FOR THE LAST 40 YEARS.

THEY HAVE ALL THIS LAND THAT THEY WANT TO BRING ALL THESE PEOPLE IN.

THEY DON'T HAVE ANY WATER PIPES IN THE GROUND.

THERE'S SO MUCH INTERRELATEDNESS TO THESE TOPICS.

BUT TO THE CONVERSATIONS THAT HAVE BEEN HAVING, IT'S IMPORTANT ENOUGH YOU TO TALK ABOUT INFRASTRUCTURE.

THE FOLKS HEAR THAT. I'VE HEARD IT'S IMPORTANT ENOUGH THAT YOU TALK ABOUT HOUSING. BECAUSE WE'VE HEARD IT.

ACKNOWLEDGING THAT IF YOU DO WHAT YOU SAY UNDER BOTH OF THOSE, IT'S GOING TO IMPACT THIS, WHETHER YOU'RE A STRONG ECONOMY.

BECAUSE IF YOU DON'T HAVE ANY DOCTORS THAT ARE WILLING TO LIVE HERE BECAUSE THEY CAN'T AFFORD IT, I GUARANTEE YOU THAT'S NOT STRONG ECONOMY.

>> I HAVE A QUESTION. A GENERAL QUESTION.

DOES OR CAN THE COUNTY INFLUENCE [INAUDIBLE] OTHER THAN HOUSING ALL THE ROADS.

>> MY ANSWER IS YES, AND LED ME INTO COMMENT I WAS GOING TO MAKE ABOUT ECONOMIC GROWTH AND STRENGTH AND STOP ME IF YOU THINK THIS IS GETTING INTO WORD SMITHING ALREADY, BUT IT GIVES ME A LITTLE BIT OF PAUSE WHEN WE USE THOSE WORDS BECAUSE THOSE WORDS ARE CHARGED.

GROWTH AND EVEN STRENGTH BACK TO SOMEONE ON THE BOARD REFERENCE STAYING IN OUR OWN LANE IN TERMS OF ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, AND STRENGTH STARTS TO SUGGEST TO ME WHEN I HEAR THAT, HERE COMES THE COUNTY TO TAKE OVER.

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FOR ME, IT'S THE CLEAR CUT WORDS, ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, AND WORKFORCE DEVELOPMENT, WHICH BACK TO YOUR QUESTION, IS ONE WAY THAT WE NOW HAVE TO DIRECTLY INFLUENCE.

ONE WAY, AND I THINK THERE ARE OTHERS THROUGH, YOU KNOW, THE FACILITATION, THE LEADERSHIP, THE AGGREGATING OF RESOURCES THAT WE CAN INFLUENCE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, BUT WORKFORCE IS ONE DIRECT LEVER WE HAVE.

>> LET'S CHANGE THAT. [INAUDIBLE] I THINK WE HAVE CHANGED THAT TO ECONOMIC WORKFORCE.

>> WELL, I WANT TO MAKE SURE THE BOARD'S COMFORTABLE WITH THAT, THOUGH. THAT'S JUST MY THOUGHT.

>> WE BROUGHT THAT [INAUDIBLE]

>> CHAIR, I JUST WANT TO AGREE WITH MAURI ON THAT ONE.

I THINK THE COUNTY IS STILL RELIED UPON TO BE THE DEFENDER OF ALL THINGS RURAL, AND THAT IS ON OUR SHOULDERS, AND SO TO JUST BROADLY SAY, WE'RE GOING TO GO AFTER ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AND GROWTH, SENDS THE WRONG MESSAGE.

WE WANT TO FACILITATE THAT IMBALANCE WITH OUR RURAL CHARACTER IN PLACES WHERE IT MAKES SENSE, WHICH IS MOSTLY SURROUNDING MUNICIPALITIES, SO IN PARTNERSHIP, BUT WE WANT TO BE A GOOD PARTNER ON THOSE.

>> [INAUDIBLE] I AGREE WITH THAT.

>> I WAS JUST GOING TO SAY, I'VE ALWAYS CONSIDERED THE COUNTY EVEN WHEN I SERVED ON THE TOWN COUNCIL FOR PRESCOTT VALLEY AS A PARTNER.

AS A COUNCIL MEMBER WHEN I WAS ON PRESCOTT VALLEY.

THE COUNTY ALWAYS CAME IN WITH SOME MONEY THAT HELPED US WITH A PROJECT IF WE DIDN'T HAVE.

A LOT OF THE ROADS WE DRIVE ON TODAY ARE PARTNERSHIPS, TRULY.

IT WASN'T JUST OUT OF ONE TOWN OR ONE CITY.

IT WAS A REGIONAL PARTNERSHIP TO BUILD THESE ROADS, AND 89 A IS A PERFECT EXAMPLE OF THAT CONNECTING TO FANE.

THAT WAS A LOT, INCLUDING WITH THE STATE.

>> LET ME ASK THE QUESTION. THAT'S WHAT I LOVE ABOUT MY JOB.

I GET TO ASK THE QUESTIONS. I DON'T KNOW THE ANSWERS.

DO YOU THINK, YOU KNOW, BASED UPON THIS CONVERSATION AND SORT OF THE ACQUITTLING DOWN TO KIND OF A SHARPER POINT THAT THIS IDEA OF ECONOMIC AND WORKFORCE DEVELOPMENT COULD BE A PRIORITY?

>> YES, SIR.

>> THE ONE THING WE HAVEN'T TALKED ABOUT SITTING UP THERE IS HEALTHCARE.

>> IT'S INTEGRAL TO EVERYTHING WE DO.

I'VE HAD INTIMATE INVOLVEMENT WITH, SOME OF YOU MAY KNOW, WITH THE HEALTH CARE SYSTEM FOR THE PAST FOUR TO FIVE YEARS WITH MY MOTHER.

THE ONE THING THAT IS CONSISTENT WITH DOCTORS COMING IN AND COMING OUT, LEAVING THAT I CONSTANTLY SEE IS EDUCATION.

IT'S THE NUMBER ONE ISSUE THAT DOCTORS THAT I'VE HEARD ON A REGULAR BASIS AS TO WHY THEY LEAVE BECAUSE THEY CAN'T GET THEIR CHILDREN EDUCATED.

THE YOUNG DOCTORS WHEN THEY COME HERE, AND I HEARD OVER AND OVER.

IT WAS A MAJOR PART DURING MY CAMPAIGN WHEN I WAS RUNNING FOR OFFICE BECAUSE I REPRESENT THE MAJORITY OF PRESCOTT AND THE EDUCATION SYSTEM IN PRESCOTT, AND I GOT CALLS FROM NURSES AND DOCTORS ALL THE TIME THAT THEY WERE CONCERNED ABOUT THE EDUCATION OF THEIR CHILDREN.

I DON'T KNOW HOW THAT FITS IN OR HOW WE CAN SOLVE IT AT ALL, BUT THIS BOARD WENT A LONG WAY BY DOING THE SMALL PART WE DID FOR THE THIRD GRADE READING PROGRAM, WHICH THEN WE DID SOMETHING.

THEY SAID WE COULDN'T DO ANYTHING WITH EDUCATION, BUT WE CAN.

I DON'T HAVE THE ANSWER TO THAT.

BUT IT IS CERTAINLY.

FAMILIES COMING HERE, NOBODY WANTS TO COME TO A PLACE WHERE THEY CAN'T EDUCATE THEIR CHILDREN.

IF YOU READ THE I DON'T NEED TO GO DOWN THAT RABBLE BIT.

FOR ME, VIE CHAIR, THAT NESS UNDER WORKFORCE DEVELOPMENT, DEVELOPING THE WORKFORCE YOU NEED FOR THE COMMUNITY RAN? NO, I'M GLAD YOU DID.

>> LET ME SAY THIS BECAUSE I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THAT YOU DO THAT, WE JUST FINISHED AGAIN A PLAN UP IN OREGON.

THEY WERE REALLY CLEAR AND WE'LL GET INTO THIS, BUT THEY WERE REALLY CLEAR THAT THEY HAD THE PRIORITIES BUT WHEN THEY CREATED THEIR GOALS, THAT MIGHT BE SPECIFIC TO A CERTAIN TOPIC.

THEY WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT THE TOPIC WAS BOLTED TOO.

IF YOU GO TO SAY.

>> I'M SORRY. I DON'T MEAN TO INTERRUPT YOU.

BUT APPARENTLY, WHEN WE'RE NOT ON THE MIC, IT'S NOT COMING OUT AND IT'S NOT COMING ACROSS.

IF SOMEONE'S THIS IS ONLINE.

I JUST GOT A TEXT.

THAT'S THE ONLY REASON. I'M BRINGING THIS OUT.

I'M SORRY, THE MICROPHONE DOESN'T MOVE AROUND.

>> IT'S OKAY. THAT'S SOMETHING I'LL HAVE TO DEAL WITH, YOU'RE GOOD.

>> NO WORRIES.

>> I'LL STAY SEATED HERE FOR A SECOND.

UNDER INFRASTRUCTURE, LET'S JUST SAY IF ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE TALKED ABOUT UNDER INFRASTRUCTURE WAS TRANSPORTATION.

LET'S SAY YOU GUYS CREATE LATER ON IN THIS RETREAT A GOAL OR GOALS ABOUT TRANSPORTATION.

WE CAN BOLD THAT SO THAT EVEN FROM THE PRIORITY AREAS TO THE GOAL LEVELS, IT'S CLEAR THAT UNDER THAT PRIORITY,

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HERE'S THE TOPIC THAT YOU'RE TAKING HOLD OF.

THAT WAY THAT YOUR COMMUNITY, YOUR CUSTOMERS ARE UNDERSTANDING THAT SOMETHING'S NOT BEING LOST IN TRANSLATION UNDER A STRATEGIC PRIORITY. JUST WANT TO MENTION THAT.

>> THOSE PREAMBLES THAT YOU MIGHT CHOOSE TO WRITE FOR EACH OF YOUR PRIORITIES, HELPS YOU DO THAT.

HELPS YOU HIGHLIGHT WHAT THE FOCUS IS HERE.

BECAUSE, AS WE'VE SAID MANY TIMES, INFRASTRUCTURE HERE MAY BE VERY DIFFERENT THAN INFRASTRUCTURE IN A DIFFERENT COMMUNITY OR COUNTY.

>> ON THIS TOPIC, ALONGSIDE WORKFORCE DEVELOPMENT, I THINK ENTREPRENEURSHIP IS AN IMPORTANT WORD BECAUSE OUR SMALL BUSINESS DEVELOPMENT CENTER IS HUGE, AND I THINK THOSE MICRO LOANS AND REALLY TRYING TO CREATE AN ENVIRONMENT THAT'S CONDUCIVE TO UNIQUE EXPERIENCES, WHERE ENTREPRENEURS ARE PROVIDING SOMETHING THAT CAN'T BE FOUND ON EVERY CORNER AND REALLY, ADDING TO THE CHARACTER OF YAVAPAI COUNTY.

THAT'S SOMETHING THAT I THINK BROADLY OUR CONSTITUENTS WOULD SUPPORT THE COUNTY IN ENDEAVORING INTO.

INSTEAD OF ECONOMIC GROWTH AND STRENGTH, WORKFORCE DEVELOPMENT AND ENTREPRENEURIAL SUPPORT.

LIKE, THOSE WORDS I THINK WOULD RESONATE REALLY DIFFERENTLY.

>> IF I COULD, I WOULD AGREE WITH THAT AS WELL, BUT OUR CHAMBERS TALK ABOUT THAT, AND QUITE FRANKLY TALK ABOUT THAT AS A STRENGTH IN THIS COUNTY.

I WOULD AGREE WITH THAT ANYTHING WE CAN DO IN SUPPORT AND BUILD ON THAT STRENGTH WOULD BE POSITIVE.

>> A SUPERVISOR, WERE YOU MAKING A PROPOSAL TO CHANGE THE VERBIAGE ON THAT TO WORKFORCE DEVELOPMENT AND SOMETHING ELSE?

>> A ENTREPRENEURIAL SUPPORT. DOES THAT SOUND.

OR YOU COULD JUST SAY ENTREPRENEURIAL AND WORKFORCE DEVELOPMENT. I DON'T KNOW.

THE WORDS HAVE ASSOCIATIONS WORKFORCE DEVELOPMENT.

WOULD THAT BE MORE LIKE MAYBE PRIVATE PARTNERSHIPS TYPE OF THINGS WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT THAT? I CERTAINLY COULD.

>> WHAT DO YOU ALL THINK? WHAT ARE THE REST OF YOU THINK?

>> I JUST WANT TO JUST SPEAK TO, DURING OUR BUDGET SEASON, I SPENT A COUPLE MINUTES EXPLAINING THE VERDI VALLEY REGIONAL ECONOMIC ORGANIZATION, THE GOOD WORK THAT THEY DO, THEIR MICRO LOAN PROGRAM, AND HOW IT'S REALLY SHAPED THE ECONOMY OF THE VERDI VALLEY IN A POSITIVE WAY, IN A WAY THAT PEOPLE WHO LIVE IN THE VERDI VALLEY LOVE AND DESIRE.

IT'S NOT JUST BIG BOX STORES COMING IN.

IF WE HAVE THAT AS A PRIORITY, THAT REALLY IT OPENS THE DOOR FOR THE COUNTY TO SUPPORT MORE REGIONAL ENDEAVORS THAT ARE REALLY GOING TO ALIGN WITH THE CHARACTER OF OUR COMMUNITY.

>> THEN WHERE I THINK ABOUT IT, I LIKE ENTREPRENEURIAL SUPPORT.

AGAIN, THIS SEEMS TO BE CONSISTENT WITH A LOT OF WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT HERE. WHAT IS OUR ROLE? A LOT OF TIMES WE'VE BEEN REFERRING BACK TO SUPPORTING EFFORTS THAT ARE ALL ALREADY UNDERWAY.

>> YOU COULD WRITE THIS PRIORITY, JEREMY AND I WERE JUST TALKING ABOUT.

YOU COULD SAY ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, WORKFORCE DEVELOPMENT, AND ENTREPRENEURIAL SUPPORT, AND THAT'S THE NAME OF THIS PRIORITY.

IF YOU WANTED IT TO READ THAT WAY, [OVERLAPPING].

>> LET ME ASK YOU A QUESTION, AND I JUST WANT TO BE REAL.

PART OF MY JOB IS TO BE HONEST AND BE IT, DO YOU WANT TO GROW OR DO YOU NOT? HERE'S THE THING.

DO YOU REMEMBER OLD ANDY DUFRAN, SHAWSHANK REDEMPTION? WHEN MORGAN FREEMAN SAID, GET BUSY LIVING OR GET BUSY DYING, WE WORK WITH A LOT OF COMMUNITIES WHOSE POPULATION IS GOING DOWN. CAN'T FIND HOUSING.

THE BUSINESSES DON'T COME OR THEY'VE MOVED OUT.

THERE'S NO INFRASTRUCTURE.

THE QUESTION IS, GRANTED, YOU GOT THE NO GROWTH.

I'M THE SAME WAY. I LIVE IN THE COUNTY WHERE I LIVE.

BUT IF YOU DON'T HAVE A VIBRANT ECONOMY THAT IS FOCUSED ON ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, WORKFORCE DEVELOPMENT, ENTREPRENEURIAL SPIRIT, YOU'RE UP A CREEK.

THAT'S JUST THE TRUTH. YES, MA'AM.

>> MY EXPERIENCE HAS BEEN OVER THESE LAST 15 YEARS, IS THAT THE PEOPLE HAVE COME, AND WE AREN'T READY FOR THEM.

WE NEED TO GET LIKE UP TO CURRENT AND GET AHEAD BECAUSE THEY ARE COMING.

THAT'S THE BIGGEST PROBLEM.

WE ARE BEHIND ON THIS WHOLE INFRASTRUCTURE.

THAT'S WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO, GET CAUGHT UP TO.

I WAS JUST WONDERING, COULD SOMETHING BE LIKE A HEADER AND THEN MAYBE HAVE A COUPLE OF BULLET POINTS UNDERNEATH IT? IF YOU WANT TO DO ECONOMIC OR WORKFORCE, HOWEVER IT WAS STATED, THEN WOULD YOU PUT MAYBE HOUSING AS A LITTLE SUB UNDER THERE.

I'M JUST SUGGESTING I DON'T KNOW WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT. MADAM CHAIR.

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>> I'M ON THE SAME PATH HERE, BUT I'M HEARING WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, ALTHOUGH I'M NOT QUITE COMING FROM MY BACKGROUND, I WOULD NEVER BE OFFENDED IF THE COUNTY WANTED TO BE A PARTNERSHIP IN ANY KIND OF ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.

WHAT I'M LOOKING AT ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AS BEING A PARTNER TO TO THE COMMUNITIES.

UNDER THAT, IDENTIFY THOSE THINGS THAT WE BELIEVE CAN INFLUENCE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT FOR THE WHOLE COUNTY, WHICH IS WORKFORCE DEVELOPMENT.

SUPPORTING ENTREPRENEUR PROGRAMS. THERE'S PROBABLY OTHER THINGS, BUT TO SAY SPECIFIC THINGS, CAUSE I'M HEARING FROM YOU, LIKE, INFRASTRUCTURE, WE DIDN'T SAY SPECIFIC WATER OR TRANSPORTATION.

WE JUST STARTED WITH INFRASTRUCTURE.

IS THERE A HEADER THAT WE COULD ALL AGREE ON? THEN WE COULD HAVE THE SPECIFIC WHERE WE'RE GETTING INTO THE DETAILS.

>> I THOUGHT OF A WORD THAT COULD HELP REGIONAL ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, WORKFORCE DEVELOPMENT, AND AND ENTREPRENEURIAL SUPPORT.

IF YOU PUT THE WORD REGIONAL IN, IT SAYS, BECAUSE WE ARE SUCH A BIG COUNTY.

NOBODY SOMETIMES PEOPLE THINK, WHERE'S YAVAPAI COUNTY? IT'S PRESCOTT. THE SURROUNDING AREAS DON'T ALWAYS JUST TRUST, THAT IT'S NOT GOING TO BE REGIONALIZED.

I THINK THAT WORD WOULD RESONATE.

>> YOU ASKED THE QUESTION ABOUT, DO YOU WANT TO GROW? DO YOU NOT WANT TO GROW? I REPRESENT THE VAST MAJORITY OF PRESCOTT.

I THINK THEY HAVE AN IDENTITY CRISIS BECAUSE HALF THE TIME, THEY WANT TO KEEP PRESCOTT PRESCOTT.

EVERYTHING WISK DOWNTOWN IS ALL THE SAME.

WE WANT IT TO BE THE WAY IT USED TO BE.

THIS IS THE FOCUS ON ALL OF IT.

THEN THEY TALK ABOUT GROWTH.

BUT WELL, WHICH ONE DO YOU WANT? IT DOESN'T WORK THAT WAY.

DO THEY WANT TO BE A SMALL BOUTIQUE TOWN WHERE EVERYTHING IS EXPENSIVE, AND IT IS EXPENSIVE TO LIVE IN PRESCOTT IS LIKE A EXPENSIVE TO LIVE IN NEWPORT BEACH, CALIFORNIA.

IS THAT WHAT THEY WANT? LET ALL THE ROOFTOPS GO TO PRESCOTT VALLEY AND NOT HERE AND NOT IN PRESCOTT? IT'S A GOOD QUESTION TO ASK.

YOU CAN'T GET HIS ANSWER OUT OF THE CITY. I CAN TELL YOU THAT.

>> IF I COULD GO BACK, I DON'T KNOW THAT I HEARD THE SAME THING.

I THINK I HEARD SUPERVISOR JENKINS SAY THE HEADER WAS MAYBE REGIONAL, BUT REGIONAL ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, AND THEN GOALS WOULD BE WORKFORCE DEVELOPMENT AND ENTREPRENEURIAL SUPPORT.

>> ONE WAY OF THINKING ABOUT IT IS THIS.

IF YOU KNOW THAT GOING FORWARD, THIS JUST AS A HYPOTHETICAL.

IF YOU KNOW THAT REGIONAL ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT IS THE WAY YOU GET THINGS DONE.

UNDERNEATH THAT, THERE'S SOME SPECIFIC THINGS LIKE ENTREPRENEURIAL WORKFORCE DEVELOPMENT THAT YOU MAY GET YOUR ARMS AROUND, AND THEN NEXT TIME, SOMETHING ELSE POPS UP AROUND REGIONAL ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, THEN THAT CAN BE A GOOD INDICATOR THAT YOUR PRIORITY AS WRITTEN IS AT A HIGH ENOUGH LEVEL THAT THE TOPICS UNDERNEATH CAN BE COMPLETED AND EVOLVE AS YOU GROW AS A COMMUNITY AND GET THINGS DONE. GO AHEAD, MARK.

>> THEN JUST PUT REGIONAL IN FRONT OF THOSE TWO WORDS.

>> AT REGIONAL ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.

>> YES. BUT REGIONAL HOUSING SOLUTIONS, REGIONAL INFRASTRUCTURE SOLUTIONS.

>> YOU COULD DO THAT IF YOU WANTED TO.

I THINK IT LISTEN, IT'S UP TO YOU GUYS.

I WANTED TO MAKE SURE I GOT THIS ONE DOWN FIRST.

>> I WAS JUST GOING TO SAY, THE MORE I THINK ABOUT IT, I DO LIKE THAT, THAT THE HEADER IS REGIONAL ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.

GOING BACK TO THE INPUT WE RECEIVED, THAT WAS A VERY STRONG SENTIMENT FROM MULTIPLE GROUPS.

>> A BETTER MESSAGE, LIKE SUPERVISOR CHECK WAS SAYING, IF WE SAY REGIONAL, THAT SHOWS THAT WE'RE A PARTNER IN THIS.

WHICH IS WHAT WE ARE.

>> I'LL SAY THIS REAL QUICK.

I LIVE IN BLOUNT COUNTY, TENNESSEE, AND IT'S NOT SPELLED B-L-U-N-T.

IT'S B-L-O-U-N-T, WILLIAM BLOUNT.

BUT OUR APPROACH THERE IS ACTUALLY CALLED THE BLUNT PARTNERSHIP, CRAZY ENOUGH.

THAT'S WHAT WE USE AS A COUNTY TO GO OUT AND GET COMPANIES THAT WE WANT TO COME IN AND WORK IN OUR PLACE.

BUT I SAY THAT JUST BECAUSE THAT RESONATED TO ME.

>> I JUST WANT TO SAY YOU HAD SAID WAY EARLIER THAT WE'RE WRITING OUR STORY.

WE DO WANT TO BE CAREFUL IF WE TALK ABOUT REGIONAL HOUSING OR ANYTHING.

I KNOW WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT RIGHT NOW.

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BUT ONCE THESE WORDS GET OUT IN THE COMMUNITY, IT'S GOING TO BE LIKE, THE COUNTY IS BUILDING HOUSES REGIONALLY ACROSS THE WHOLE PLACE.

THE STORY WE WRITE NEEDS TO BE REAL CLEAR.

WE'RE NOT DEVELOPING HOUSING, WE'RE NOT BUILDING HOUSING WITH OUR TAX DOLLARS.

WE ARE REGIONAL COOPERATION PARTNERS IN THE WHOLE SENSE OF BUILDING, PIKE COUNTY.

HOWEVER YOU LADIES WANT TO DO IT.

I JUST DON'T WANT US TO ALL BE BOMBARDED TOMORROW WITH EMAILS THAT SAY, SO YOU'RE BUILDING HOUSES NOW.

>> AGAIN, THIS JUST COMES DOWN TO THIS WHAT YOU WANT TO SAY.

YOU COULD SAY REGIONAL ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, YOU FINE.

THEN THE HOUSING IS SPECIFIC TO, YOU MAY DO SOME YOU MAY WORK WITH YOUR PARTNERS ON IT.

BUT YOU CAN OR YOU DON'T HAVE TO PUT REGIONAL IN FRONT OF THAT OR THAT.

BUT YOU DO KNOW BASED UPON WHAT I THINK I HEARD THAT A REGIONAL APPROACH OR A COUNTY WIDE APPROACH, WORKING WITH OUR PARTNERS IS IMPORTANT TO FOLKS. IS THAT FAIR?

>> I THINK THAT'S GREAT. WATER, OF COURSE, REGIONAL, AS SUPERVISOR CHECK HAS BEEN WORK.

THAT REGIONAL THING ALL GOES WELL FOR OUR INFRASTRUCTURE, OUR ECONOMY, OUR GROWTH, OUR STRENGTH.

ALL WORKS TOGETHER BECAUSE WE DO HAVE TO WORK WITH ALL OUR MUNICIPALITIES.

>> I THINK, MADAM CHAIR, I LIKE THE WORD REGIONAL AROUND ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT 'CAUSE IT SEEMS LIKE IT NEEDS MORE DEFINING.

BUT I DON'T WANT TO OVERLY COMPLICATE THOSE OTHER WORDS THAT PEOPLE TEND TO UNDERSTAND STRAIGHTAWAY.

IF IT'S REGIONAL HOUSING, THAT GIVES YOU A QUESTION.

WHAT'S REGIONAL HOUSING COMPARED TO HOUSING? WHAT'S REGIONAL INFRASTRUCTURE COMPARED TO INFRASTRUCTURE?

>> I ALREADY GAVE UP ON THAT IDEA FIVE MINUTES AGO.

YOU DON'T NEED TO KEEP TALKING.

>> LET ME GET THIS. IF I PUT UP HERE, AND I KNOW I HAD TO STEP AWAY FROM THE MICS. I APOLOGIZE.

I PUT UP HERE, REGIONAL ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, KNOWING THAT WE'RE GOING TO PUT SOME SPECIFIC THINGS UNDERNEATH THAT WORKFORCE ENTREPRENEURIAL SUPPORT.

ARE YOU GUYS GOOD WITH THE PRIORITY BEING REGIONAL ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT?

>> I'M OKAY WITH IT.

>> SUPERVISOR?

>> WE'VE GOT A COUPLE OTHERS HERE.

ARE THERE ANY OTHERS THAT POP OUT TO YOU?

>> PUBLIC SAFETY.

>> TALK TO ME, SUPERVISOR ABOUT WHAT YOU SEE UNDER THAT?

>> WELL, IT'S ALWAYS A UNIT THAT STANDS OUT ON ITS OWN.

WELL, I REALIZE IT COULD BE UNDER INFRASTRUCTURE BECAUSE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE GURLEY STREET BUILDING.

WE'RE TALKING ABOUT MOVING 911.

WE'RE TALKING ABOUT REGIONAL DISPATCH.

BUT GIVEN ALL THE THINGS BY HOUSING THAT ENCOMPASSES PUBLIC SAFETY, I THINK IT NEEDS TO BE A UNIT ON ITS OWN.

WHETHER WE'RE BUILDING SUBSTATIONS SOUTH, NORTH, EAST, WHEREVER WE'RE DOING IT.

YOU ALREADY KNOW I WANT TO DO THE GURLEY STREET BUILDING AND NEW MOVE 911.

WE ALREADY KNOW THAT. I THINK IT NEEDS TO BE A UNIT ITSELF JUST ONCE AGAIN BECAUSE OF THE SIZE OF IT.

>> WHAT I WILL TELL YOU AGAIN ABOUT THESE HEADINGS IS THIS.

THAT'S A VALID COMMENT.

WHAT THE STORY IS FOR YOU IS, WE DIDN'T HEAR FROM YOU IN STAKEHOLDER ENGAGEMENT THAT YOU HAVE GANG VIOLENCE OR THAT YOU HAVE, CRAZY CRIME PROBLEMS. BUT IF PUBLIC SAFETY BECOMES A PRIORITY, IT'S UP TO YOU DEFINE WHAT SUCCESS LOOKS LIKE UNDERNEATH.

THAT SUCCESS COULD BE ANYTHING FROM EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT TO DISPATCH TO INFRASTRUCTURE RELATED TO PUBLIC SAFETY, SO THAT WHEN FIX SEE THAT WORD, THEY SAY, WELL, WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT REGARDING PUBLIC SAFETY IS REALLY EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT, THE THREAT OF WILDFIRES.

WHATEVER YOU DECIDE, BECAUSE IT'S VERY VALID.

BUT PART OF THIS PROCESS, AGAIN, IS TELLING THE STORY, BECAUSE WE'RE NOT PUTTING IT UP HERE BECAUSE YOU HAVE A CRIME RATE THAT'S BLOWING UP.

WE'RE DOING IT BECAUSE YOU HAVE SOME OTHER THINGS THAT YOU NEED TO DO, MAYBE.

>> MADAM CHAIR, I MEAN THE TRUTH IS THAT THERE ARE GOING TO BE SOME TOPICS THAT AREN'T SUPER APPEALING OR TOP OF MIND FOR CONSTITUENTS THAT STILL ARE REALLY IMPORTANT FOR THIS GROUP, THIS BOARD TO ADDRESS.

NO ONE'S SUPER EXCITED ABOUT ADMINISTRATIVE BUILDINGS.

EVEN IF THEY REALLY NEED THEM, OUR CONSTITUENTS DON'T WAKE UP IN THE MIDDLE OF THE NIGHT AND SAY, I KNOW WHAT EVERYONE HERE IN YAVAPAI COUNTY NEEDS ANOTHER ADMINISTRATIVE BUILDING.

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AT THE SAME TIME, IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT THAT WE CONSIDER WHAT'S NOT BEEN DISCUSSED IN THOSE STAKEHOLDER MEETINGS THAT STILL NEED TO BE PRIORITIZED.

I THINK THAT'S A LOT WHERE PUBLIC SAFETY COMES IN IS THAT, THOSE NEEDS HAVE BEEN MARGINALIZED CONTINUALLY OVER TIME, AND NOW WE'RE REALLY TO A POINT WHERE WE NEED TO BE BOLD AND SUPPORT SOME ADMINISTRATIVE SPACE, EVEN IF IT'S NOT THE TOP OF THE LIST OR TOP OF MIND FOR OTHER INDIVIDUALS.

>> I WAS JUST GOING TO SAY THAT HAVING TO EXPLAIN OURSELVES OR EXPLAIN HOW WE MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS DESIGN.

I THINK IT'S VERY EASY TO TALK ABOUT THE FACT THAT WE HAVE BUILDINGS LIKE THE GURLEY STREET BUILDING IS OVER 30-YEARS-OLD.

I'M LOOKING AT THE CLOCK, BECAUSE I THINK YOU SAID [OVERLAPPING] BUT THE GURLEY STREET BUILDING IS OVER 30-YEARS-OLD.

YOU CAN STEP OUT IN FRONT OF IT, YOU CAN SEE THE SIDEWALK, YOU CAN SEE THE RETRAINING WALL IS GOING SIDEWAYS.

OUR JOB AS THE BOARD, THE TAXPAYER, THESE ARE THEIR ASSETS, THESE BUILDINGS, AND WE HAVE TO MAINTAIN THOSE ASSETS OF THEIRS.

IN CASE IN THE FUTURE, MAYBE YOU WANT TO SELL IT OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, WE CANNOT LET IT COLLAPSE IN THE SENSE OF IT ALL.

WE'RE CAUGHT UP IN THE MIDDLE OF IT, FROM THE BEAUTIFUL BUILDING THAT WAS BUILT OVER 30 YEARS AGO TO THE PART THAT IT DIDN'T QUITE GET THE LOVE AND CARE IT NEEDED IN THE LAST 15 YEARS OR SO.

WE'RE THE ONES THAT ARE GOING TO HAVE TO SUPPLY THAT.

WE'VE GOT SOME OLD STUFF TO TAKE CARE OF, BUT BY NO WAY MEANS THAT THE FUTURE AND THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS FOR THE FUTURE WON'T BE ABLE TO ACHIEVE THE CURRENT NEEDED THINGS THAT ARE NECESSARY IN ALL OF YOUR DISTRICTS.

>> MADAM CHAIR, A QUESTION ON PUBLIC SAFETY.

IT'S OKAY. IS THERE ANYTHING [OVERLAPPING] WITHIN PUBLIC SAFETY ISSUES THAT WOULDN'T FALL UNDER INFRASTRUCTURE?

>> YEAH. BECAUSE OF THE SIZE OF IT.

THE PUBLIC UNDERSTANDS THAT WE ARE INTERESTED IN PUBLIC SAFETY. GO AHEAD.

>> I'M TRYING TO GET AT WHERE BECAUSE ONCE YOU HAVE A HEADING UP THERE, YOU HAVE TO BE SPECIFIC, AND THEN YOU HAVE TO ATTACH A GOAL TO IT.

WITH INFRASTRUCTURE, YOU COULD HAVE PUBLIC SAFETY AND ADDRESS THE FACILITIES ISSUES.

BUT WITHIN PUBLIC SAFETY ITSELF, WHAT WOULD BE OUR GOAL? YOU'RE GOING TO YELL AT ME BECAUSE I'M JUMPING AHEAD.

>> LITTLE BIT. I'M SORRY.

>> BUT REALLY, THAT'S THE POINT OF WE HAVE TO HAVE AN ISSUE THAT WE WANT TO MAKE A PRIORITY, AND WE ULTIMATELY, WE'RE GOING TO ASSIGN EITHER A BUDGET OR STAFF TO RESOLVE IT.

I'M JUST TRYING TO UNDERSTAND BESIDES FACILITIES THAT'S GOING TO FALL UNDER INFRASTRUCTURE.

WHAT ELSE COULD WE BE LOOKING AT? NIKKI YOU'VE GOT SOME IDEAS?

>> WELL, I THINK WHAT YOU'RE TRYING TO SHAPE UP IS THAT STORY.

WHAT IS THE STORY THAT IS RELEVANT? I DIDN'T MEAN TO MARGINALIZE, THEY'RE VERY RELEVANT PIECES WITHIN THAT.

I THINK THE ONE THAT RISES TO THE TOP IS EMERGENCY COMMUNICATIONS, REGIONAL COMMUNICATIONS.

>> REGIONAL DISPATCH, THAT'S WHERE I'M GOING.

THAT'S WHAT THAT'S ALL ABOUT.

THERE'S OTHER SOME THINGS, WELL, I'M NOT GOING TO DISCUSS IT AT THIS MEETING, BUT IT'S IMPORTANT THAT THE COUNTY TAKE THE LEADERSHIP ROLE WHEN IT COMES TO REGIONAL COMMUNICATION DISPATCH NOW.

IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE GET GOING ON IT NOW.

THAT'S WHY IN MY MIND, PUBLIC SAFETY THERE.

>> JUST A QUICK RECAP, AND WE ARE GOING TO GO TO LUNCH AHEAD IN THREE MINUTES BECAUSE IT'S 12:02, I'M KEEPING AN EYE.

IN THE COUNTY, WE HAVE MANY ELECTED OFFICIALS, WHICH MEANS THEY ARE IN CHARGE OF THEIR DEPARTMENTS.

IN THE CITIES AND TOWNS, THEY ACTUALLY REPORT TO THE TOWN MANAGER, THE CITY MANAGER, HOWEVER THAT IS.

WE ARE THE ONES AS THE SHERIFF BRINGS HIS NEEDS TO US, WE DECIDE TO FUND THOSE NEEDS THAT HE IS REQUESTING.

MORE OR LESS, HE TELLS US WHAT ARE THE NEEDS IN THAT DEPARTMENT? HOW DOES THAT WORK? THEN WE FIGURE OUT THE MONEY PART OF IT OR WHAT WE CAN DO OR WHAT WE CAN'T DO.

WE WILL DEAL WITH THE MONEY, BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY, OUR PARTICULAR SITUATION IN THE COUNTY, OF COURSE, IS THE SHERIFF WILL BE THE DECIDING FACTOR ALONG WITH

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HIS UPPER MANAGEMENT ON WHERE ARE THE NEEDS IN THIS, HOW THE JAIL GETS RUN, ALL OF THAT.

NO MATTER WHAT WE MIGHT THINK ABOUT THAT SHERIFF AND HIS STAFF WOULD ALWAYS NEED TO BE IN THE ROOM IN THE SENSE OF THAT.

BECAUSE LIKE I SAID, WE HAVE MANY ELECTED OFFICIALS.

WHEN I FIRST GOT HERE FROM THE TOWN, I WAS TOLD BY AN ELECTED OFFICIAL, YOU'VE NEVER WORKED AT THE COUNTY, SO WHAT YOU NEED TO UNDERSTAND IS THERE'S A LOT OF ELECTED OFFICIALS.

YOU DON'T GET TO TELL ELECTED OFFICIALS WHAT TO DO, THEY DON'T GET TO TELL YOU WHAT TO DO EITHER.

BUT SO I TRY TO REMEMBER THAT VERY QUICK EDUCATION I RECEIVED AS SOON AS I WALK THROUGH THE DOOR.

>> THAT'S RIGHT. YOU'VE GOT TO WORK TOGETHER TO DELIVER RESULTS FOR THE BETTERMENT OF THE COMMUNITY.

SAME SITUATION I DEALT WITH IN METRO NASHVILLE.

ELECTED SHERIFF WOULD PROPOSE HIS BUDGET, AND THE ELECTED METRO COUNCIL WOULD DECIDE THE MERITS OF THAT AND PROVIDE A BUDGET TO THAT SHERIFF.

NOW, WHAT I WILL TELL YOU, GOING BACK TO SUPERVISORS COMMENTS ABOUT WHERE YOU PUT SOME OF THIS PUBLIC SAFETY, YOU TALK ABOUT REGIONAL DISPATCH.

JUST TO GO DOWN THIS POINT ABOUT WHERE YOU PUT, THE IMPORTANCE IF YOU FRAME THAT FROM THE CUSTOMER'S PERSPECTIVE, IT'S ABOUT COORDINATE COMMUNICATIONS SO THAT YOUR RESIDENTS CAN GET A TIMELY RESPONSE TO THEIR NEEDS.

YOU TALK ABOUT EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT. WHY DO YOU NEED THAT? WELL, WE KNOW YOU'VE HAD WILDFIRES AMONGST OTHER THINGS.

THAT COORDINATION IS A PUBLIC SAFETY.

IF THAT'S THE WAY YOU WANT TO FRAME IT.

YOU COULD FRAME IT JUST ABOUT BUILDING A BUILDING.

THE FACT THAT YOU'RE THE FROG IN THE HOT WATER, AND IF YOU JUST SIT IN AN OFFICE BUILDING FOR SO LONG AND THERE'S MORE GROWING ON THE WALLS OR WHATEVER IT MIGHT BE, IT'S GOING TO IMPACT YOUR STAFF'S ABILITY TO DELIVER SERVICES AT SOME POINT.

IT'S HOW YOU WANT TO FRAME THE CONVERSATION.

BUT THE PROPOSAL TO HAVE A PUBLIC SAFETY PRIORITY IS EXTREMELY VALID.

>> WELL, IN ADDITION, OTHERS MAY BE TRYING TO DO REGIONAL DISPATCH, IN MY VIEW, SHOULDN'T BE TRYING TO DO REGIONAL DISPATCH.

IT'S IMPORTANT THAT THE PERSON SAYS HEAD OF REGIONAL DISPATCH IS ANSWERABLE TO THE PEOPLE BY BEING ELECTED.

AN ELECTED OFFICIAL IS IN CHARGE OF REGIONAL DISPATCH, NOT AN APPOINTED BUREAUCRAT IN OTHER AREAS.

THE COUNTY HAS A UNIQUE ROLE WITH THAT, AND THE SHERIFF HAS A UNIQUE ROLE WITH THAT, AND HE IS REGIONAL.

THAT'S WHY IT'S IMPORTANT, AND THAT'S WHY I FEEL WE NEED TO TAKE A HOLD OF IT SOONER RATHER THAN LATER AND HAVING IT AS A PRIORITY.

>> I THINK IN SUMMARY, THE QUESTION IS, REALLY, DO YOU WANT, AS A BOARD TO REALLY SEND THE MESSAGE THAT PUBLIC SAFETY IS ONE OF YOUR TOP FIVE PRIORITIES?

>> WELL, IF I COULD CHAIR ON THAT, I ASSUME YOU TWO KNEW YOUR EXPERIENCE, SEEN THIS COME UP BEFORE.

IN MY EXPERIENCE, I HAVE THAT YOU GET INTO A SITUATION LIKE THIS, AND THERE'S A RETICENCE ON THE BOARD'S PART NOT TO CALL IT OUT AS A HEADER BECAUSE OF THE SIGNAL IT MAY SEND.

I'VE ALSO SEEN IT, IN THOSE CASE, SEEN IT ADDRESSED, AS YOU CALL IT OUT, AS YOU SAID, YOU'RE TELLING YOUR STORY IN THE PREAMBLE.

THIS IS ONE OF THE CORE FUNCTIONS.

BY NO MEANS, IS THIS DIMINISHED BY NOT HAVING A CURRENT GOAL AROUND THAT ITEM.

AGAIN, YOU REALLY EMPHASIZE TO THIS JOB 1, WHERE THIS IS GOING TO BE PROVIDED.

NO QUESTIONS. THEN YOU GO INTO THE OTHER ITEMS THAT YOU WANT TO ADDRESS.

>> I WAS JUST GOING TO SAY, SAFETY OF A COMMUNITY IS ABSOLUTELY A TOP PRIORITY.

NOT ONLY THE SAFETY OF THE COMMUNITY, BUT ALSO THE SAFETY OF YOUR LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS.

THAT'S ANOTHER RESPONSIBILITY THAT THE BOARD HAS.

>> FROM MY PERSPECTIVE, SOMEONE'S VERY INVESTED IN OUR BUDGET.

I WANT TO SEE OUR BUDGET REFLECTIVE OF OUR STRATEGIC PRIORITIES, AND I KNOW THAT PUBLIC SAFETY WILL BE HIGHLIGHTED THAT WAY, SO I DON'T SEE A REASON NOT TO INCLUDE IT, EXCEPT FOR IF WE GET CLOSE TO GETTING TO SIX, THEN WE MIGHT WANT TO SCRATCH IT.

>> WE WON'T LET YOU DO THAT.

>> WE WON'T LET YOU FAIL.

>> LET ME ASK YOU, IS THERE A CONSENSUS FOR RIGHT NOW TO PUT PUBLIC SAFETY UP THERE?

>> WHEN YOU SAY WHAT? JUST LIKE PUBLIC? [OVERLAPPING] GO AHEAD BECAUSE HONESTLY, I SEE THE HOUSING UP THERE.

BUT AS I REMEMBER THE CONVERSATION, I'M PRETTY SURE WE AREN'T MAKING THAT AN ACTUAL HEADING, BUT IT WILL BE UNDER MAYBE THE ECONOMIC THING OR THE WORKFORCE THING OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

BUT WE'RE AT FOUR. I DON'T KNOW.

>> AS IT STANDS RIGHT NOW.

EXCUSE ME, I HAVE A LITTLE REVERB THERE, DELAY.

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YOU HAVE FOUR STRATEGIC PRIORITIES.

YOU HAVE INFRASTRUCTURE, AND WHATEVER YOU DECIDE TO PUT UNDER THAT, THOSE HEADINGS, YOU HAVE HOUSING, WHATEVER YOU WANT TO PUT UNDER THAT.

YOU HAVE REGIONAL ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, WHATEVER THINGS YOU WANT TO PUT UNDER THAT, YOU HAVE PUBLIC SAFETY.

HOW YOU WANT TO DEFINE THAT AT THIS POINT IN TIME FOR THE COUNTY.

THOSE ARE FOUR, AND WE WOULD SAY YOU HAVE ONE MORE BIG ONE THAT WE WOULD ENCOURAGE YOU COULD STOP THERE, BUT IF THERE'S ANOTHER ONE FOR YOU TO CHOOSE, WE WOULD ENCOURAGE YOU TO DO THAT.

>> WELL, I JUST HAVE AMONG THE BOARD.

MAYBE THIS WILL BE A GOOD PLACE TO STOP FOR LUNCH.

THEN WE MIGHT HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO JUST THINK ABOUT IT ALL, AND OTHERWISE, I THINK WE COULD GO BACK AND FORTH FOR A WHILE HERE.

WE COULD TAKE A BREAK. YES, MA'AM.

IS THAT A HALF AN HOUR, MALLORY? HOW LONG IS OUR LUNCH?

>> I BELIEVE WE HAD AN HOUR.

>> OH, AN HOUR. THAT'S GREAT. THAT'S GOOD.

>> BUT, THAT'S UP TO THE BOARDS.

>> WHAT I WOULD ENCOURAGE YOU TO DO, AND I DON'T DISAGREE, MADAM CHAIR.

BUT WHAT I WOULD SAY TO YOU IS, YOU GUYS ARE DOING GREAT.

ONE OF THE BIGGEST THINGS IN THIS PROCESS IS NOT TO THINK TOO MUCH ABOUT WHERE THINGS GO BECAUSE WE'RE NOT GOING TO LET YOU LOSE THE TOPIC.

THAT'S PART OF OUR JOB.

BUT WHAT WE NEED TO DO UPON COMING BACK FOR LUNCH, WITHIN AN HOUR AFTER WE COME BACK, WE NEED TO SET THESE PRIORITIES AND START MOVING, OR WE WON'T GET DONE.

IF WE CAN MAKE THAT COMMITMENT, I DON'T HAVE TO GO ANYWHERE TONIGHT, I'M JUST KIDDING.

BUT IF WE CAN DO THAT, WE'LL GO AHEAD AND BREAK.

>> IS THE BOARD OKAY WITH THAT? TAKE AN HOUR LUNCH OR ARE WE GOOD? ARE WE READY? GO AHEAD, MALLORY.

>> OR IF YOU COULD COME BACK AT ONE O'CLOCK, 50 MINUTES HERE.

>> THAT BE GOOD.

>> ONE O'CLOCK, WE WILL RETURN.

>> THANK YOU SO MUCH.

>> GOOD AFTERNOON. WE ARE BACK INTO OUR STRATEGIC PLANTING.

I SAID PLANTING [LAUGHTER] ON A PURPOSE.

WE ARE PLANTING.

WE'RE GOING TO SEE WHAT GROWS THE FASTEST HERE. MOVING FORWARD.

NO, SERIOUSLY.

IT WASN'T A SAVE.

MR. ROSE COLOR GLASSES GUY [LAUGHTER].

WE'RE JUST HAVING FUN. WE DO HAVE A LOT OF FUN HERE.

>> THAT'S IMPORTANT.

>> IT IS. ABSOLUTELY. WE'RE A FAMILY, AND WE ACT LIKE ONE.

>> GOOD.

>> I'LL PICK US UP WHERE WE LEFT OFF.

WHAT WE WANT TO DO IS, RATHER THAN KEEP GOING ON A TOPIC THAT WE ENDED UP WITH WITH SOME UNCERTAINTY, I'D LIKE TO KEEP GOING AND WE'RE GOING TO COME BACK AND REITERATE AND RECONFIRM IT ALL.

BUT RIGHT NOW WE HAVE FOUR THINGS UP THERE.

AGAIN, WE'RE GOING TO COME BACK AND CONFIRM OR WHATEVER AFTER THE FACT.

BUT RIGHT NOW WE HAVE INFRASTRUCTURE, WE HAVE HOUSING, WE HAVE REGIONAL ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, AND WE HAVE PUBLIC SAFETY.

NOW, IS THERE ANOTHER ONE UP HERE THAT IS IMPORTANT ENOUGH THAT IT RISES TO GO INTO THAT LIST AND JUST BRINGING IT UP?

>> MADAM CHAIR [LAUGHTER] I'M GOING TO MAKE ANOTHER CASE HERE, AND I'M GOING TO START WITH LOOKING THAT I KNOW HEALTHCARE IS SUPER IMPORTANT TO OUR COMMUNITIES.

I HAVE TO ASK THE QUESTION HOW MUCH PROGRESS THIS BOARD CAN REALLY ACHIEVE ON THAT GOAL DIRECTLY.

>> I DID YOU WANT TO JUST QUICKLY ADDRESS THAT I THINK THE COMMENTS ABOUT NORTHERN ARIZONA HEALTHCARE.

THE INTEREST IN THIS TOPIC IS THAT THERE'S SO MUCH THAT'S CHANGING.

I FEEL LIKE I DON'T WANT TO NECESSARILY BUILD A PLAN AROUND HEALTHCARE DIRECTLY BECAUSE JUST AT THE MICRO LEVEL, NORTHERN ARIZONA HEALTHCARE JUST GOT A NEW CEO AND A NEW COO, AND THEY'RE REBUILDING, AND THEY'RE VERY MUCH TACKLING THEIR OWN CHALLENGES.

THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT'S GOT A COMPLETELY DIFFERENT TAKE ON WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN IN OUR LOCAL HEALTH CARE SYSTEM.

I JUST FEEL THERE'S NOT ENOUGH FOR ME TO RESPOND TO DIRECTLY.

BUT I SEE VERY MUCH THAT WE ARE ADDRESSING SOME TANGENTIAL NEEDS FOR HEALTHCARE IN OUR REGIONAL ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, OUR HOUSING, AND OUR INFRASTRUCTURE, AND PUBLIC SAFE.

ALL OF THOSE, I THINK, INDIRECTLY DO ADDRESS HEALTHCARE.

ONE THING THAT I SAW IN THE DATA POINTS AND THE CONVERSATION TOPICS THAT YOU GUYS PRESENTED IS THE DISCUSSION OF WATER.

I KNOW WE DID MOVE FORWARD ON JULY 2 AND WE GOT A PARTIAL GRANT TO

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FUND THE ORGANIZATION OF AN INTERGOVERNMENTAL OPEN SPACE AND WATER RESOURCES, WATER RESOURCES AND OPEN SPACE COMMITTEE.

NO ACRONYM YET.

ONE COMING SOON, I'M SURE.

BUT JUST A QUICK THING.

I THINK THIS IS AN AREA THAT OUR CONSTITUENTS WANT US TO ADDRESS.

I DON'T LIKE NECESSARILY THE WORD ENVIRONMENT BECAUSE IT'S OVERLY BROAD.

BUT ON THE TOPIC OF OPEN SPACE AND WATER, I THINK OUR PREVIOUS HANGUPS AT THE COUNTY LEVEL, THE REASONS WHY SOME OF THOSE THINGS DIDN'T END UP MOVING FORWARD OR BEING MEANINGFUL IN THE PAST IS BECAUSE THERE WAS AN OVER FIXATION ON DATA IN UNDERSTANDING OUR HYDROLOGY OR WATER DYNAMICS DOWN TO THE POINT OF A GALLON OR EXACT MODELING AND THE DATA THAT GOES INTO THE MODELING, I WAS REALLY DETAILED.

BUT WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE HAVE A PIKE COUNTY MOVE FORWARD ON IS JUST THE BASIC ASSUMPTION THAT WE WANT TO MAKE PROGRESS ON OUR WATER RESOURCES SO THAT EVEN IF THIS AREA IS NOT GOING TO RUN OUT OF WATER OR THIS AREA IS OR THIS OR THAT OR THE OTHER, THAT BROADLY, WE WANT TO THE TOOLS THAT ARE ALREADY IN OUR TOOLBOX WORKING MORE DIRECTLY TO ADDRESS WATER RESOURCES THROUGH LAND USE, THROUGH CONSERVATION, THROUGH WATER INFRASTRUCTURE, AND ALL OF THAT.

ALSO THAT SAME MEDIUM CAN ADDRESS THE WILDLIFE ISSUES THAT CAME UP SO DIRECTLY IN THOSE CONVERSATIONS.

THAT'S KIND OF WHERE I'M COMING FROM AS FAR AS OUR FIFTH PRIORITY, BUT I'D BE HAPPY TO HEAR OTHER VOICES.

>> JENNIFER MAY FILL THE VOID UNTIL OTHERS TALK WELL SAID, AGREE WITH ALL OF THAT.

THAT'S EXACTLY THE DIRECTION I PERSONALLY WOULD GO.

FOR ME, HEALTHCARE IS PART OF THAT REGIONAL ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT STRATEGY.

AGAIN, A SUPERVISOR CHECKS TOUCHES ON HOUSING.

BUT FOR ME, IT'S REALLY THE REGIONAL ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT PLAN.

AGREE COMPLETELY, AS WELL AS WITH THE REPHRASING.

I WOULD PROBABLY REPHRASE. I AGREE.

I THINK THAT'S TOO BROAD.

I THINK WE KNOW THE SPECIFICS ON THIS ONE THAT WE WANT TO TALK ABOUT.

I WOULD JUST CALL IT ON AND SAY, WATER AND OPEN SPACE AS THE AREA TO WORK ON.

>> I HAVE A QUESTION.

IN REGARDS TO HOW WE'RE PUTTING THESE, THIS ISN'T THEY'RE JUST GETTING PUT UP THERE.

THEY DON'T HAVE ANY ORDER HERE, RIGHT?

>> I WOULD ENCOURAGE YOU NOT TO HAVE AN ORDER.

>> I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE.

LIKE I SAID BEFORE, I DON'T CARE WATER OWN TOPIC OR ONE OF THE OTHER ONES, IT HAS TO BE ON THE TABLE FOR US TO BE A PARTNER IN DISCUSSING WATER IN THE FUTURE THROUGHOUT A PIKE COUNTY.

>> ON WATER, I AGREE.

IN PARTICULAR, RELATED TO DEVELOPMENT AS WELL.

>> LET ME ASK A QUESTION.

CAN WE HAVE CONSENSUS THAT A PRIORITY ON WATER AND OPEN SPACE IS SOMETHING YOU WANT TO MOVE FORWARD WITH AS A HEADING?

>> YEAH, I BELIEVE SO.

THOSE TWO TOPICS COME UP CONSTANTLY, EVEN WHEN WE HAVE SOMEONE WHO WANTS TO HAVE A DEVELOPMENT BROAD.

>> I CAN SUPPORT IT NOW ENVIRONMENT HAS GONE.

>> WHAT DID YOU SAY?

>> I LIKE SUPERVISOR CHECKS RENAMING IT TO SOMETHING BESIDES ENVIRONMENT.

>> WATER AND OPEN SPACE WAS FINE.

>> WHAT WE'VE GOT RIGHT NOW IS WE HAVE FIVE.

WE HAVE INFRASTRUCTURE, HOUSING, REGIONAL ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, PUBLIC SAFETY, AND WATER AND OPEN SPACE.

WE'VE TALKED ABOUT ALL OF THEM UP HERE TO SOME DEGREE, EXCEPT FOR THAT LAST ONE, WHICH IS LISTED, WHICH IS USUALLY IT'S ENTITLED SOMETHING LIKE GOOD GOVERNANCE.

HOWEVER YOU WANT TO PHRASE IT, IT COULD BE SOMETHING DIFFERENT.

BUT THERE WERE A LOT OF DIFFERENT COMMENTS FROM ALL THE DIFFERENT STAKEHOLDERS ABOUT THAT TOPIC.

HOW DO WE WANT TO PROCEED WITH THAT?

>> WELL, IS IT ALL OF THIS GOOD GOVERNANCE, AS FAR AS THE TOPICS THAT WE'RE DISCUSSING.

>> AN EXAMPLE?

>> YEAH. I THINK I NEED SOME HELP.

>> A LOT OF TIMES IN THIS PARTICULAR TYPE OF PRIORITY,

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YOU'RE LOOKING AT STUFF LIKE LET'S JUST SAY I'M GOING TO MAKE A SITUATION UP THAT MAY OR MAY NOT BE TRUE IN THIS PARTICULAR JURISDICTION? I DO NOT KNOW.

BUT YOU'RE A GROWING COUNTY. WE KNOW THAT.

THE QUESTION IS ARE YOU GOING TO BE POSITIONED TO HAVE A WORKFORCE THAT MEETS THE DEMAND THAT'S BEING PLACED ON THEM.

THAT COMES DOWN TO STAFFING.

SOMETIMES WE'LL SEE A RESULT RELATED TO, WE'RE GOING TO BE STAFFED TO MEET THE DEMAND.

BECAUSE IF YOU'RE NOT STAFFED TO MEET THE DEMAND, THE QUESTION IS, ARE YOU DELIVERING THE SERVICES THAT YOU PROMISED TO YOUR CONSTITUENTS THAT YOU'RE GOING TO DELIVER? SOMETIMES THAT GOES INTO SOMETHING LIKE GOOD GOVERNANCE.

IF THERE'S BUDGETING TYPE STUFF, SOMETIMES THAT GOES INTO GOOD GOVERNANCE.

IF YOU HAVE COMMUNICATION CHALLENGES, YOU NEED TO TELL YOUR STORY WITH RESULTS, SOMETIMES THAT GOES INTO GOOD GOVERNANCE THAT YOU MIGHT NOT BE ABLE TO PUT NICELY INTO ANOTHER PARTICULAR PRIORITY.

THOSE ARE EXAMPLES, CHAIR.

>> I'M THINKING THAT IN THE BEGINNING OF THIS THIS MORNING, WE TALKED ABOUT THREE BUILDINGS.

WE TALKED ABOUT THAT WE WOULD LOOKING AT THE SHERIFF'S BUILDING OVER THERE BY THE NEW CRIMINAL JUSTICE CENTER, IF I'M CORRECT.

WE ALSO TALKED ABOUT REMODELING THE GURLEY STREET, WHERE THERE'S MANY THINGS THAT ARE FALLING DOWN.

THEN WE ALSO TALKED ABOUT THE COMMERCE LOCATION, WHERE AGAIN, THAT IS AN ISSUE BECAUSE WE HAVE SO MANY DEPARTMENTS THAT ARE OUTGROWING THEIR AREA.

ELECTIONS, FOR EXAMPLE, HAVE A LOT OTHER LAWS THAT WEIGH ON THEM IN REGARDS TO ELECTIONS THAT COME FROM THE SECRETARY OF STATE AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

WITH THAT BEING SAID, I KIND OF FEEL LIKE, ISN'T THAT A LITTLE GOOD GOVERNANCE IN THE SENSE THAT WE ARE PROJECTING FOR STAFF AND FOR SERVICES AND THINGS LIKE THAT?

>> ABSOLUTELY. THOSE BUILDINGS WERE MENTIONED.

WE COULD HAVE PUT THEM IN INFRASTRUCTURE, WE COULD HAVE PUT THEM IN UNDER GOOD GOVERNANCE.

BECAUSE FROM AN OUTSIDER'S PERSPECTIVE LISTENING, THE IMPRESSION THAT I GOT WAS.

IT'S GETTING TO THE POINT WHERE IT'S IMPACTING OUR ABILITY TO DELIVER EFFECTIVE AND EFFICIENT SERVICES.

IF YOU DEVELOP THE GOAL RELATED TO THESE BUILDINGS, AND I'M NOT GOING TO PRETEND TO KNOW WHAT'S NEEDED.

BUT THEY COULD BE POSITIONED TO SAY BY A CERTAIN DATE, A WORKFORCE THAT'S ABLE TO DELIVER SERVICES EFFICIENTLY AND EFFECTIVELY THROUGH THE BUILDING OF THESE FACILITIES.

BUT ALL WE'RE DOING IN THAT PARTICULAR FROM THE BUILDING OF THE BUILDING, WE'RE BUILDING IT.

IT DOESN'T SAY WE'RE STAFFING.

IF YOU PUT IT IN THE INFRASTRUCTURE, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT BUILDING THEM, RIGHT?

>> YES, THAT'S TRUE. BUT THE OTHER PART TO THAT IS THE STAFF.

I FEEL LIKE WE HAVE BEEN GROWING THE STAFF.

THAT'S WHY WE'RE ALL GETTING TO BE LIKE SARDINES AROUND HERE.

THEN THE PUBLIC, WHEN THEY WANT TO COME IN TO VOTE, THAT'S A WHOLE OTHER TOPIC THAT I CAN'T GET INTO, BUT THOSE ARE ALL ANOTHER REQUIREMENT THAT WE'RE DEALING WITH.

I DO FEEL IN A SENSE, THAT WE ARE DEALING WITH STAFFING BECAUSE I FEEL LIKE WE HAVE THE STAFF, AND OF COURSE, THAT'S THE SITUATION WITH LAW ENFORCEMENT AND OUR PUBLIC SAFETY GETTING THEM INTO A BUILDING THAT WILL ACCOMMODATE THAT NEED A BIGGER ONE, ACCOMMODATE THE STAFF THAT HE HAS, AND THEN THE STAFF COMING IN.

>> THAT'S A VALID POINT.

THAT'S TOTALLY UP TO YOU GUYS AS A BOARD ABOUT WHETHER YOU HAVE SOMETHING LIKE THAT OR WHETHER YOU DON'T.

BUT IT'S JUST A MATTER OF WHEN YOU COME TO CONSENSUS ABOUT THE FIVE THAT YOU WANT, IF THERE'S SOMETHING THAT POPS UP, YOU WANT TO MAKE SURE THEY FIT WITHIN WHAT YOU'RE DOING.

THAT'S ALL I'M SAYING. YES, MA'AM.

>> AGAIN, I'M JUST TRYING TO UNDERSTAND.

EARLIER SUPERVISOR CHUCK, WE HAD SAID, WELL, IF WE HAVE TO KICK SOMETHING OUT, WHATEVER.

THE HOUSING? I'M NOT SAYING TO FORGET ABOUT HOUSING, NO WAY, NO HOW.

BUT WOULD GOVERNANCE MAYBE REPLACE THE HOUSING? WE ALREADY KNOW IN THE REGIONAL ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT PART OF IT, THAT HOUSING IS KIND OF FALLING IN THERE.

BUT THIS IS JUST ME TALKING, AND I'M JUST HERE TO LISTEN TO WITH EVERYTHING THAT YOU FOLKS WANT TO DO.

>> THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR. I BELIEVE THAT WE ARE ALREADY ADDRESSING GOOD GOVERNANCE AS FAR AS LEVERAGING THIS PROCESS TO REALLY BUILD IMPLEMENTATION PLANS AND CREATE NEW GOALS.

I THINK WE'VE ALREADY ESTABLISHED THAT WE WANT TO WORK OUT SOME NUANCES IN OUR GOVERNMENT STRUCTURE AND THAT

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SWING FROM COUNTY MANAGER OR COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR TO COUNTY MANAGER.

I DON'T THINK THOSE ARE HUGE SHIFTS.

THEY'RE NUANCED. WE'VE GOT PROCESSES IN PLACE TO DO THAT ALREADY.

I BELIEVE OUR BUDGET CONVERSATIONS WERE ROBUST AND THE CREATION OR THE SUGGESTION OF A BUDGET COMMITTEE SO THAT WE CAN BE MORE ENGAGED AND MORE FULLY UNDERSTAND HOW OUR STAFFING NEEDS ARE RESPONDING TO OUR POPULATION, AND A LOT OF THE POLICY REVISIONS THAT WE'RE DOING INTERNALLY.

I SEE US MAKING PROGRESS ON GOOD GOVERNANCE OUTSIDE OF MAKING IT A STRATEGIC PLAN GOAL.

>> I WOULD CONCUR. WHAT WE'VE BEEN DOING SINCE WE'VE BEEN HERE ON THE BOARD SHOWS THE GOOD GOVERNANCE.

WE'RE ALREADY MOVING IN THAT DIRECTION.

IT IS ITS OWN, IT'S IMPORTANT, BUT NOT FOR THAT.

IT'S WHAT WE DO EVERY DAY THAT SHOWS GOOD GOVERNANCE, AND PEOPLE WILL LIKE IT, HOPEFULLY.

>> WELL, I GUESS I WOULD ASK, WHEN YOU PRESENT THESE TYPES OF TOPICS, WOULD IT BE A GOOD LOOK? IS IT A GOOD LOOK? DOES IT SPEAK LOUDER TO OUR CONSTITUENTS THAT WE HAVE THE WORD GOOD GOVERNANCE ON THERE? IS IT A VISUAL THING, MAYBE?

>> THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION. I WOULD SAY THAT, IF YOU AS A BOARD SAY THAT YOU DON'T NEED IT, AND YOU'RE REALLY FOCUSED ON THESE THINGS, THAT'S FINE.

YOU ASKED ME A QUESTION ABOUT OPTICS, I WOULD SAY IT IS, AND SOMETHING THAT REALLY, WE HEARD IN YOUR FEEDBACK THAT FOLKS AND ALSO IN YOUR SURVEY ABOUT THE INPUT, PROVIDING INPUT INTO THE GOVERNMENT.

IF THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WOULD LEND ITSELF TO A STRATEGIC RESULT, I DON'T KNOW.

IT COULD BE AN OPERATIONAL THING THAT YOU JUST FOCUS ON.

YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE A LOT OF THOSE.

BUT FROM AN OPTICAL PERSPECTIVE, I WOULD SAY IT DOES COMMUNICATE SOMETHING, BUT IT'S NOT IN ANY WAY A REQUIREMENT, ESPECIALLY IF YOU CAN BE CLEAR ENOUGH ON THESE OTHERS.

>> CHAIR, IF I MAY ADD.

I'D BE COMFORTABLE WITH THAT.

WHEN I LOOK AT THE GOOD GOVERNANCE, AND IF YOU LOOK ACROSS THE THREE DIFFERENT AUDIENCES, THE TWO THAT STICK OUT TO ME IS THE COLLABORATION THAT WE HEARD FROM SPECIFICALLY CITY AND TOWN MANAGERS, BUT OTHERS AS BEING AN IMPORTANT ROLE.

I SEE THAT EMBEDDED IN THE REGIONAL ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AND WATER AND OPEN SPACE.

THOSE ARE THE TWO PRIMARY AREAS WHERE I HEAR THE CITIES AND TOWNS CLAMORING FOR THE COUNTY TO TAKE A MORE ACTIVE ROLE.

I THINK WE MAY HAVE ADDRESSED THAT ONE WHEN WE HAVE THESE TWO INCLUDED HERE.

THE OTHER ONE WHEN I SEE IT IS BUDGET AND WHEN I SEE BUDGET, IT IS NOT SO MUCH THE STRUCTURAL PIECE, IT'S THE OVERARCHING PHILOSOPHY WHERE WE'RE GOING.

THE ONE PIECE THAT I DON'T WANT TO LOSE AND THINK IT CAN BE EMBEDDED HERE IS THAT WE KNOW WE'VE GOT SOME STRUCTURAL ISSUES WITH OUR BUDGET THAT WE'VE GOT TO ADDRESS.

QUITE FRANKLY, WE KNOW THAT THE JAIL DISTRICT IS TAKING UP A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF OUR GENERAL FUND CAPABILITIES NOW.

WE'VE GOT TO ADDRESS THAT.

BUT AGAIN, WE CAN ADDRESS THAT THROUGH, QUITE FRANKLY, INFRASTRUCTURE, OR PUBLIC SAFETY IS GOING TO HAVE TO BE ADDRESSED IN BOTH OF THOSE AREAS.

>> I AGREE WITH YOU.

TO PICK UP ON THE REST OF THESE HERE, SPACE STAFFING, I THINK THAT'S ALL GOING TO BE COVERED IN ITEMS UNDER INFRASTRUCTURE.

THE ONLY THING THAT WE'RE MISSING IS THE OPTICS OF SAYING GOOD GOVERNANCE.

WE'RE GOING TO COVER THEIR CONCERNS IN OTHER CATEGORIES.

AGAIN, LIKE I THINK CHAIR HAD SAID BEFORE, MAYBE IN A PREAMBLE, WE EXPLAIN SOME OF OUR THOUGHT PROCESS HERE ON WHY WE CHOSE THESE TOPICS.

THESE TOPICS AREN'T BECAUSE THESE ARE THE MOST IMPORTANT TO US, OR THESE ARE THE ONES THAT HAVE ISSUES.

THESE ARE THE THINGS THAT WE BELIEVE TODAY ARE THINGS THAT WE WANT TO FOCUS ON.

I GUESS MY THOUGHT PROCESS IS BECAUSE A DEPARTMENT IS OR ISN'T UP HERE, DON'T READ ANYTHING INTO IT.

>> TO YOUR POINT, SUPERVISOR JENKINS, YOU'RE NOT GOING TO STOP PAYING PEOPLE TOMORROW BECAUSE HR IS NOT ONE OF YOUR PRIORITIES,.

THIS JUST MEANS THAT THIS IS WHAT YOU'RE WANTING TO FOCUS ON OVER THE NEXT COUPLE OF YEARS BECAUSE THESE ARE THE THINGS THAT ARE MOST PRESSING AT THE COUNTY LEVEL.

THAT'S WHAT A STRATEGIC PLAN IS.

>> ALSO HEARD THE COMMENT THAT WHEN WE TALK ABOUT INFRASTRUCTURE,

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WE'RE JUST TALKING ABOUT BUILDINGS, AS THE BOARD'S AWARE WE'RE TRYING TO SHIFT THAT.

WE'RE LOOKING AT THE FULL COST WHEN WE TALK ABOUT A BUILDING, SO WE ARE LOOKING AT THE STAFF AT THE SAME TIME, LOOKING AT THE TRUE COST TO US, AND WE'RE BUILDING THAT IN.

THAT PIECE IS BEING ADDRESSED HERE.

>> THAT'S GREAT. THAT'S IMPORTANT.

WE VISITED A PLACE ONE TIME WHERE THEY BUILT THIS NICE BIG BUILDING AND FORGOT TO TAKE INTO ACCOUNT THE MONEY TO OPERATE IT..

IT WAS IN BUSINESS ONE DAY AND OUT OF BUSINESS THE NEXT, SO THAT'S GOOD TO HEAR.

WHAT I HEAR YOU SAYING IS THAT AT THIS POINT IN TIME, WE'VE GOT FIVE.

WE'VE GOT INFRASTRUCTURE, HOUSING, REGIONAL ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, PUBLIC SAFETY, AND WATER AND OPEN SPACE. WHAT DO YOU THINK?

>> LOOKS LIKE WE HAVE A CONSENSUS.

>> CONGRATULATIONS. WE'RE GOING TO SHIFT GEARS.

I WANT TO TALK ABOUT WHAT COMES NEXT.

YOU GUYS HAVE ALREADY JUMPED THERE A LITTLE BIT ALREADY.

THAT'S BOTH A REAL BIG POSITIVE.

THEN THAT CAN ALSO BE A LITTLE BIT SCARY.

YOU'RE TRYING TO MANAGE THE PROCESS.

BUT I WILL TELL YOU, I BELIEVE IT IS A POSITIVE.

WHAT I WANT TO TALK WITH YOU ABOUT IS, AND I SAID THIS EARLIER, YOU DEFINED WHAT SUCCESS LOOKS LIKE UNDER INFRASTRUCTURE FOR YAVAPAI COUNTY OVER THE NEXT SEVERAL YEARS.

YOU DEFINE WHAT SUCCESS LOOKS LIKE FOR YAVAPAI COUNTY UNDER HOUSING.

YOU DEFINE WHAT SUCCESS LOOKS LIKE UNDER REGIONAL ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, UNDER PUBLIC SAFETY, AND UNDER WATER AND OPEN SPACE.

HERE'S THE REASON WHY I SAID THIS EARLIER, YOU'RE NOT LIKE ANYBODY ELSE.

YOUR COMMUNITY IS UNIQUE.

WE'VE BEEN TO SOME PLACES THAT ARE SIMILAR.

BUT THERE MAY BE AT DIFFERENT POINTS BASED UPON WHAT'S GOING ON IN THEIR COMMUNITY.

WHAT I WANT TO SAY TO YOU IS, WHEN WE START THIS IDEA OF DEFINING SUCCESS, YOU'RE DEFINING WHAT SUCCESS LOOKS LIKE VERSUS LETTING SOMEONE ELSE DEFINE IT FOR YOU.

THAT'S THE REASON WHY WE TALK ABOUT TELLING YOUR STORY.

WHEN WE TALK ABOUT INFRASTRUCTURE, YOU'RE GOING TO SAY, FOR US RIGHT NOW, WHAT'S THE MOST IMPORTANT THINGS THAT WE NEED TO BE DOING? THE RESULTS THAT WE NEED TO BE DELIVERING.

REALLY, WHAT WE'RE DOING OVER THE NEXT DAY AND A HALF, IS WE'RE TALKING ABOUT HOW YOU'RE GOING TO ACHIEVE THESE PRIORITIES.

LET'S THINK ABOUT THAT. WE CALL THESE STRATEGIC RESULTS.

YOU COULD CONSIDER THEM GOALS, BUT WE REALLY WANT THEM TO BE RESULTS BECAUSE WE WANT YOU TO ACTUALLY ACHIEVE SOMETHING FOR YOUR COMMUNITY VERSUS, WE'RE WORKING REALLY HARD.

WELL, MOST FOLKS DO.

THE QUESTION IS, WHAT CAME OUT OF THAT.

TO THE EXTENT POSSIBLE, WE WANT TO TRY TO GET TO WHAT THAT RESULT IS THAT YOUR COMMUNITY OR PART OF YOUR COMMUNITY IS GOING TO EXPERIENCE, OR YOUR WORKFORCE, OR WHOEVER WE'RE TALKING ABOUT.

THESE ARE DESCRIBED IN MEASURABLE TERMS, AND THEY'RE THE RESULTS THAT THE ORGANIZATION MUST ACCOMPLISH TO REALIZE THE PRIORITY.

RESULT IS DEFINED AS THE IMPACT THAT YOU WANT TO MAKE.

HERE'S THE REASON WE TALK ABOUT IMPACT.

IF WE'RE NOT TALKING IMPACT, WE'RE TALKING EFFORT.

THE QUESTION IS, SO WHAT? YOU CAN WORK REALLY HARD TO BE DOING THE WRONG THING.

BUT WHAT WE WANT TO TALK ABOUT IS THAT WE WORKED REALLY HARD AND WE DELIVERED THIS EXPERIENCE OR THIS RESULT FOR OUR COMMUNITY.

A LOT OF TIMES IT'S EXPRESSED IN MEASURABLE TERMS. SOMETIMES IT'S PERCENTAGES OR NUMBERS.

I WANT YOU TO UNDERSTAND THIS, WE MAY NOT KNOW WHAT THOSE NUMBERS ARE HERE.

BUT WE CAN PUT IN A PLACEHOLDER, AND THEN YOUR COUNTY ADMINISTRATION CAN GO BACK AND WE CAN FIND WHAT THOSE STRETCH NUMBERS MIGHT BE.

THAT'S PART OF THE REASON WHY WE HAVE YOUR DEPARTMENT DIRECTORS HERE.

THEY'RE EXPERTS IN THOSE FIELDS AND CAN GO SAY, "HEY, WE'RE AT 10% TODAY, 20% WOULD BE A STRETCH, IF WE'RE IN A SITUATION LIKE THAT." WE DON'T HAVE TO HAVE ALL THE NUMBERS TODAY.

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SOMETIMES THESE ARE MILESTONES, WHICH MEANS YOU'RE JUST GOING TO DO SOMETHING.

THAT'S OKAY, TOO.

JUST REMEMBER, JUST BECAUSE YOU DO SOMETHING DOESN'T MEAN THE COMMUNITY EXPERIENCES SOMETHING GOOD.

YOU KNOW WHAT I'M SAYING? YOU CAN DEVELOP A COMPREHENSIVE LAND USE PLAN, AND I'LL ASK YOU SO WHAT.

BECAUSE ALL THAT DOES IS PREPARE YOU FOR THE NEXT STEP.

WE GOT TO BE REALLY CLEAR ABOUT WHAT THE RESULT IS OF WHILE WE'RE DOING.

WHEN YOUR RESIDENT PICKS UP THIS STRATEGIC PLAN, HE OR SHE CAN SEE WHAT THEY'RE GETTING FROM THEIR COUNTY GOVERNMENT.

I'M GOING TO GIVE YOU SOME EXAMPLES.

FIRST, THE STRATEGIC RESULTS HELP YOU ANSWER THE QUESTION, HOW WELL ARE WE DOING IN ACHIEVING OUR PRIORITY.

OKLAHOMA CITY MAY HAVE A PUBLIC SAFETY, STRATEGIC PRIORITY THAT TALKS ABOUT GANG VIOLENCE OR AN INCREASE OF PROPERTY CRIME.

I DON'T KNOW. I'M JUST MAKING THAT UP.

BUT THAT'S PROBABLY NOT WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT HERE TODAY FOR YOU.

THE STRATEGIC RESULTS HELP US TELL THE STORY OF HOW WELL WE'RE ACHIEVING OUR PRIORITY AND TELLING THAT STORY.

IT'S REALLY THE IMPACT THAT YOU WANT TO MAKE IN THIS AREA.

AGAIN, THIS IS YOURS, AND IN WHAT WAYS CAN YOU UNIQUELY LEAD POTENTIALLY? LEADERS USE MEASUREMENT TO UNDERSTAND AND MANAGE SO THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT EFFICIENCY.

WE'RE TALKING ABOUT EFFECTIVENESS.

WE'RE TALKING ABOUT FOCUSING EFFORTS.

PEOPLE ALWAYS WANT TO BE EFFECTIVE AND EFFICIENT, AND THOSE ARE TIMES WE THROW AROUND ALL THE TIME, MYSELF INCLUDED.

BUT IS IT BETTER TO BE EFFICIENT OR EFFECTIVE? WHAT DO YOU THINK? SOMETIMES IT MAY TAKE YOU TO BE LESS EFFICIENT TO DELIVER THE RESULTS THAT YOUR COMMUNITY NEEDS.

WE WORK WITH JURISDICTIONS ALL OVER THE COUNTY THAT ARE SO FOCUSED ON COST.

THAT'S VERY IMPORTANT.

DON'T GET ME WRONG, EXTREMELY IMPORTANT.

BUT SOMETIMES THEY GET SO FOCUSED ON COST, THEY FORGET TO LOOK AT, ARE THEY EVEN DELIVERING THE SERVICES THAT THEIR TAXPAYERS ARE ASKING THEM TO DELIVER.

REMEMBER, IN THIS PARTICULAR PLAN, SOME OF THE THINGS YOU MAY WANT TO DO MAY NOT BE EFFICIENT, BUT YOU'RE DOING THEM SO THAT YOU CAN BE EFFECTIVE.

AGAIN, IT GOES BACK TO MONEY TO RIDE THE TRAIN, RIGHT? CHAIR, DO YOU HAVE SOMETHING?

>> NO, I ABSOLUTELY UNDERSTAND.

I FEEL I LIKE TO GET THINGS DONE.

>> YES, MA'AM.

>> I THINK A LOT OF THE REASON WHY I HAVE THE PERSONALITY I HAVE TODAY IS BECAUSE I'VE LIVED HERE 25 YEARS, AND I HAVE WATCHED A LOT OF PEOPLE LEADING DIFFERENT AREAS.

WHENEVER THEY COME OUT, WHETHER IT'S TWO YEARS OR FOUR YEARS, THEY'RE GOING TO DO THE SAME THING THEY SAID THEY WERE GOING TO DO THE LAST TIME I SAW THEM ON THE STAGE, AND I'M STILL HEARING IT.

IF YOU'RE GOING TO DO IT, I WANT YOU TO DO IT.

IF YOU'RE JUST NOT, THEN PLEASE STOP TALKING ABOUT IT.

BECAUSE I DON'T WANT TO HEAR IT ANYMORE.

I'M NOT THE PERSON THAT WANTS TO TALK ABOUT SOMETHING AND NOT DO IT.

I WANT TO GET IT DONE.

I THINK IT'S SUPER IMPORTANT SO THAT THE BOARD HERE WILL MOVE FORWARD INTO A VERY GOOD FUTURE.

>> GOT IT.

>>EFFICIENCY, I THINK WHEN YOU'RE EFFECTIVE, YOU ARE EFFICIENT.

THAT'S WHAT I THINK.

>> THAT WAS EXCELLENT, CHAIR. I APPRECIATE IT.

MR. THOMPSON, WHAT DO YOU HAVE IN TERMS OF STAFF GOING INTO THE GURLEY STREET BUILDING IF THERE'S BEEN SO MANY ITERATIONS OF IT.

WHAT ARE YOUR PLANS AT THIS PARTICULAR POINT REMODELING? WHAT'S GOING IN THERE TO ALLEVIATE STAFFING?

>> RIGHT NOW, WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THE SHERIFF VACATING THE BUILDING.

YOU'VE GOT THREE FLOORS THERE.

THAT WOULD LEAVE THE COUNTY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE AND ADULT PROBATION.

I WOULD ASK TRIX THAT.

BUT WE'VE HAD CONVERSATIONS, YOU'RE AWARE OF, ABOUT THE POTENTIAL OF RELOCATING ADULT PROBATION.

THAT'S WHERE I PERSONALLY HAVE QUESTION MARKS.

IF THAT WOULD HAPPEN, WE WOULD JUST HAVE THE COUNTY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE IN THAT BUILDING AND LOTS OF UNUSED SPACE AT THAT POINT.

THEN WE NEED TO PLAN WHO'S GOING IN THERE.

>> WHO DO YOU WANT GOING IN THERE? THAT'S WHAT I MEANT. BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY STAFF IS COMPLAINING ABOUT SPACE.

WE ALL ARE. DO YOU AT THIS TIME? MAYBE YOU DON'T. WHO DO YOU WANT TO GO IN THERE? IF IT'S JUST THE COUNTY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE?

>> GREAT QUESTION. QUITE FRANKLY, I DON'T HAVE ANYONE IDENTIFIED BECAUSE IF THE BOARD WANTS TO AT THE SAME TIME BUILD THE COMMERCE BUILDING, THAT ALLOWS US TO RELOCATE THE RECORDERS OFFICE AND THE ELECTIONS DEPARTMENT OUT OF THIS BUILDING?

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IT FREES UP SIGNIFICANT SQUARE FOOTAGE IN THIS BUILDING, THAT I THINK THEORETICALLY WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO EXPAND THE CURRENT DEPARTMENTS IN THERE AND HAVE ENOUGH SPACE IN THIS BUILDING.

ALSO, WITH THE BUILDING ON COMMERCE WOULD MOVE THE LIBRARY OUT OF COMMERCE CENTER CIRCLE.

SO ALL IT LEAVES OVER THERE AND THE ELECTIONS, OF COURSE, WOULD COME OUT OF THERE, TOO, JUST LEAVES THE PUBLIC FIDUCIARY, WHICH IS A RELATIVELY SMALL OPERATION.

THEY COULD GO MAYBE BACK INTO THIS BUILDING OR TO GURLEY STREET.

BUT AGAIN, THERE'S A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF SQUARE FOOTAGE LEFT UNCLAIMED THAT I DON'T KNOW THAT WE'VE IDENTIFIED WHO WOULD UTILIZE THAT SPACE.

>> BECAUSE IT JUST SEEMS TO ME THE ALBATROSS AROUND OUR NECK FOREVER IS GURLEY STREET, AND I WANT TO GET IT RESOLVED AND TAKEN CARE OF.

BUT THEN WE HAVE 911 IN THERE THAT WE HAVE TO RELOCATE.

THAT'S THE CRUX OF WHAT'S STOPPING SEEMS TO BE STOPPING EVERYTHING FROM ME CHAIRS.

WHAT DO WE DO? I WANT TO GET IT DONE NOW.

>> CAN I JUMP IN AND SAY, RIGHT NOW, YOU DON'T HAVE A GOAL IN YOUR STRATEGIC PLAN RELATED TO ANY OF THIS.

I WOULD SAY THE FIRST STEP FOR US TO DO IN THIS PROCESS IS WHEN WE GET TO THAT PRIORITY THAT INCLUDES GURLEY STREET AND THIS OTHER STUFF, LET'S SET A COUNTY GOAL UP, AND THEN LET US DEVELOP THE ROADMAP SO THAT MAURY DOES HAVE A PLAN TO IDENTIFY THE DEPARTMENTS, TO IDENTIFY THE SPACE BECAUSE RIGHT NOW, WE'RE JUST TALKING.

YOU DON'T HAVE A PLAN RIGHT NOW.

YOU'VE TALKED ABOUT IT, A LOT OF TALKING, BUT WE DON'T HAVE ANYTHING ON PAPER THAT THE YAVAPAI COUNTY BOARD OF SUPERVISORS HAS COME TO CONSENSUS ON.

I AGREE WITH EVERYTHING YOU'RE SAYING, BUT WE GOT TO GET THE GOAL FIRST.

THEN WE CAN START TALKING ABOUT THE DETAILS. IS THAT FAIR?

>> MADAM CHAIR? ONE THING THAT I THINK WAS BROUGHT UP IN THE DATA SET WAS PEOPLE WORKING FROM HOME? THE COUNTY ATTORNEY IS ONE OF THE OFFICES WHERE I THINK THAT MODEL IS WORKING FOR THEM.

I THINK ONE OF THE FIRST QUESTIONS I ASKED OF OUR FACILITIES DIRECTOR WHEN I WAS ELECTED WAS, IS THERE A SWING OFFICE IN PRESCOTT FOR ME? THE ANSWER WAS NO. I'D LIKE TO SEE THE COUNTY NAVIGATE.

WE ALL DEAL WITH SENSITIVE INFORMATION, WHICH IS THE IDEA BEHIND A SINGLE OFFICE FOR A SINGLE INDIVIDUAL.

BUT CAN WE ENGINEER A SYSTEM THAT ACCOUNTS FOR THE SENSITIVITY OF OUR WORK IN A WAY THAT CAN MAXIMIZE SPACE.

I THINK THAT'S A REALLY RELEVANT QUESTION, NOT JUST FOR OUR OFFICE, BUT FOR SEVERAL OTHERS.

>> THANK YOU FOR THAT. WHAT WE MIGHT SUGGEST IS KNOWING THAT IN THE IMPLEMENTATION PROCESS THAT WE'LL BE WORKING ON THE EARLY FALL, THAT THAT KIND OF DISCUSSION ABOUT A FINANCIAL FUNDING PLAN, A TIMELINE FOR ALL OF THOSE BUILDINGS TO BE LISTED AND PERHAPS BUILT, AND TIMELINES COULD BE BROUGHT BACK TO YOU FOR YOU TO CONSIDER FROM THE IMPLEMENTATION PROCESS.

ONE THING WE COULD DO, IF YOU WANTED TO, IS YOU COULD HAVE ONE GOAL THAT WOULD INCLUDE BASICALLY THE BUILDINGS THAT YOU WANT TO BUILD AS A COUNTY.

THAT COULD BE REMEMBER WE'RE TRYING TO KEEP THE GOALS WITHIN MAYBE 10 OR 12 THEREABOUTS.

RATHER THAN MAKE EACH ONE OF THOSE BUILDINGS ONE GOAL, YOU COULD COMBINE ALL FOUR OF THEM AND EVEN LEAVE ROOM IF YOU WANT AT SOME LATER POINT, MAYBE IN THE CONSIDERATION THAT YOU'LL MAKE FOR IMPLEMENTATION, YOU MAY ALSO ADD SOME OTHER THINGS TO THAT.

BUT I KNOW YOU'VE TALKED ABOUT FOUR THINGS FOR SURE, THOSE COULD BE INTEGRATED IN TERMS OF WHAT THE PUBLIC WILL EXPERIENCE BECAUSE OF THE ROOM TO ACTUALLY PROVIDE SERVICES THAT ARE NEEDED ACROSS ALL OF THE OTHER PRIORITIES THAT YOU HAVE HERE.

THAT'S ONE THING I THINK THAT YOU COULD CONSIDER AND WE COULD PUT TOGETHER PRETTY QUICKLY HERE AS YOUR FIRST GOAL UNDER INFRASTRUCTURE, IF YOU WANTED TO.

>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

I DON'T KNOW WE'RE READY.

IF WE'VE ANSWERED THIS QUESTION.

>> WELL, CAN I MOVE ON?

>> THANK YOU. I'LL GO QUICK, AND THEN WE'RE GOING TO JUMP RIGHT INTO THIS CONVERSATION THAT WE'VE JUST TALKED ABOUT.

THIS DESCRIBES THE ACTUAL RESULT, NOT THE STRATEGIES. STRATEGIES COMES NEXT.

IT'S BEYOND STATUS QUO, SO THE IDEA IS NOT TO PUT IN THINGS HERE THAT ARE JUST SO EASY THAT THEY'RE GOING TO HAPPEN ANYWAY.

MAYBE THEY WILL HAPPEN.

MAYBE THEY'RE LOW HANGING FRUIT, AND THAT'S FINE.

BUT WE DON'T PUT THINGS IN HERE THAT ARE NOT STRATEGIC.

WE WANT IT TO BE COMMUNITY FOCUSED, RESIDENT FOCUSED, CITIZENS FOCUSED,

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SO THAT AGAIN, IT'S ABOUT WHAT YOUR CONSTITUENTS ARE GETTING, NOT JUST ABOUT OUR EFFORT.

WE WANT IT TO BE MEASURABLE AND UNDERSTANDABLE.

I SAY THAT, KNOWING THAT THERE ARE A LOT OF ACRONYMS WE THROW AROUND BECAUSE OF THE WORK WE DO AND THE DETAILS THAT WE'RE USED TO TALKING ABOUT.

BUT AS SOMEBODY FROM THE OUTSIDE, JUST A REGULAR OLD GUY FROM TENNESSEE, YOU START THROWING AROUND SAMPLE AND ALL THIS OTHER STUFF.

JUST TELL ME WHAT YOU MEAN.

MAKE IT UNDERSTANDABLE FOR YOUR CONSTITUENTS TO READ THIS, OKAY, WHEN THEY GET IT.

I'LL GIVE YOU SOME EXAMPLES FROM OTHER JURISDICTIONS.

THESE ARE JUST THEIR CHOICES.

IF YOU LOOK AT THEM AND SAY THEY'RE CRAZY.

WELL, MAYBE THEY ARE, BUT THAT'S WHAT THEIR BOARD OR COUNCIL DECIDED.

WE SAW ONE THAT SAID BY 2027, THE COUNTY WILL EXPERIENCE TWO OR MORE SIZABLE INDUSTRIES LOCATED OPERATIONS AT AN INDUSTRIAL PARK SITE.

THIS WAS A COUNTY IN ALABAMA THAT HAD AN INDUSTRIAL PARK IN THE NORTHERN PART OF THEIR COUNTY.

THE IDEA WAS NOBODY'S GOING TO GO THERE.

BUT THAT'S WHERE THE LAND WAS.

THEY PUT IT IN THEIR PLAN. THEY FOCUSED ON IT.

IN ABOUT TWO YEARS, THEY HAD THREE LARGE INDUSTRIAL PLANTS AND COMPANIES LOCATED THERE THAT WERE PAYING LIVABLE WAGE JOBS.

BY 2027, IN ALIGNMENT WITH THE PARKS AND RECREATION MASTER PLAN.

COUNTY RESIDENTS AND VISITORS WILL EXPERIENCE THE FULL DEVELOPMENT.

DO YOU SEE HOW THAT LANGUAGE SAID? COUNTY RESIDENT AND VISITORS WILL EXPERIENCE THE DEVELOPMENT? MARKETING OF LIVE OAK LANDING AND BICENTENNIAL PARK.

THAT WAS A RECREATIONAL FACILITY, OPEN SPACE OUT ON THE WATER IN A CERTAIN JURISDICTION.

BEGINNING IN 2026, COUNTY RESIDENTS WILL EXPERIENCE INCREASED TRANSPARENCY AND ACCOUNTABILITY THROUGH THE ISSUANCE OF AN ANNUAL PERFORMANCE REPORT.

THIS IS WHERE A COUNTY WAS NOT TELLING ITS STORY.

THEY SAID, WE NEED TO PUT OUT A PERFORMANCE REPORT, NOT A FINANCIAL, BUT A PERFORMANCE REPORT THAT TALKS ABOUT HOW ARE OUR ROADS? HOW ARE OUR BUILDINGS? WHAT'S THE WATER SITUATION? IT TELLS THE STORY OF THE COUNTY.

THAT WAS AN APPROACH IN ANOTHER JURISDICTION.

BY 2028, WATER USAGE BY THE COMMUNITY IS REDUCED FROM 146 GALLONS PER PERSON PER DAY TO 139.

THAT'S VERY SPECIFIC.

BUT THAT IS AN APPROACH A JURISDICTION WE WORKED WITH IN SEVERAL YEARS AGO HAD IN THEIR PLAN.

BY 2026, 45% OF THE CITY FLEET WILL BE CAPABLE OF USING ALTERNATIVE FUEL SOURCES.

THAT WAS A CITY WHERE THIS WAS A BIG DEAL TO THEM.

THEY WANTED TO MOVE IN THAT DIRECTION, SO THAT'S WHAT THEY DID.

BY 2025, 75% OF MIDDLE AND SENIOR HIGH SCHOOL AGE JUVENILE CASES WILL MEET COMPLETION OF SENTENCING REQUIREMENTS, AIMED AT POSITIVELY CHANGING DECISION MAKING AND BEHAVIOR WITHIN 120 DAYS.

IN THIS PARTICULAR JURISDICTION, THEY HAD AN ISSUE WITH THEIR JUVENILES, AND IT WAS BIG ENOUGH THAT THEY WANTED IT IN THEIR PLAN.

NOW, I DON'T PUT THIS UP TO YOU, THIS UP FROM A CONTENT PERSPECTIVE.

I PUT IT UP FROM A WORDING PERSPECTIVE AND HOW IT'S WORDED.

I HOPE YOU SAW IN SOME OF THESE THAT THE COMMUNITY IS GOING TO EXPERIENCE SOMETHING DIFFERENT. WHAT ARE THEY GOING TO GET? BECAUSE THAT'S THE QUESTION ABOUT WHEN WE DECIDE ON THESE GOALS THAT YOU'RE GOING TO DO OVER THE NEXT DAY AND A HALF.

YEAH, YOU WANT TO DO THIS.

WHY? WHAT DIFFERENCE WILL IT MAKE? YOU SEE WHAT I'M SAYING? IF WE CAN ANSWER THAT QUESTION OF WHAT DIFFERENCE IT WILL MAKE, THEN WE CAN WORD IT SO THAT YOUR RESIDENTS CAN SEE HOW THEY'RE GOING TO BENEFIT.

OTHERWISE, WE'RE JUST SPENDING MONEY TO SOMEBODY READING IT FROM THE OUTSIDE.

THAT'S KIND OF WHAT OUR CONVERSATIONS WILL BE.

WE GET REALLY SPECIFIC ABOUT WHAT YOU WANT TO ACHIEVE, AND THEN WE FIGURE OUT HOW WE NEED TO WRITE THIS SO THAT YOUR CONSTITUENTS SEE HOW THEY'RE GOING TO BENEFIT FROM IT VERSUS JUST SAY, "WE'RE DOING STUFF."

>> WELL, Y'ALL STILL WITH ME. LET'S GO BACK TO THIS QUESTION ABOUT INFRASTRUCTURE REAL FAST.

YOU TALKED ABOUT THESE BUILDINGS THAT, BROOKS, WHAT'S YOUR LAST NAME.

>> COMPTON.

>> SUPERVISOR COMPTON.

TALKED ABOUT SORRY.

I DIDN'T KNOW WHAT TO SAY. THANK YOU FOR CLARIFYING.

THANK YOU, NICK.

>> WE NEED ALL THE HELP WE CAN GET.

>> YOU TALKED ABOUT THE IDEA OF NEEDING TO BUILD A NUMBER OF BUILDINGS, AND I'M JUST SPEAKING TO THAT GENERALLY.

BUT IF YOU WANTED TO PHRASE THAT AS A STRATEGIC GOAL, I MEAN, YOU COULD SAY SOMETHING LIKE BY 20XX WE DON'T KNOW THE DATE YET.

THE COMMUNITY WILL EXPERIENCE A COUNTY BUILDING INFRASTRUCTURE AND A WORKFORCE CAPABLE OF DELIVERING QUALITY COUNTY SERVICES.

YOU COULD ARGUE RIGHT NOW THAT IF WE'RE WORKING IN CLAUSE, IT'S HARD TO DELIVER QUALITY SERVICES.

CAPABLE OF CONTINUING TO DELIVER QUALITY COUNTY SERVICES.

AGAIN, THE QUESTION IS NOT DO YOU NOT WANT TO BUILD THE BUILDINGS? WE KNOW YOU DO.

THE QUESTION IS, WHAT'S THE BENEFIT TO YOUR RESIDENTS THAT YOU'RE GOING TO DO THIS? YES, MA'AM.

>> WELL, AS YOU'VE HEARD THE SHERIFF'S BUILDING,

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ALONG WITH THE REMODELING OF GIRLY, BOTH OF THAT IS AN ABSOLUTE A DIRECT IMPACT AND SERVICES TO THE CONSTITUENTS FOR LAW ENFORCEMENT AND 911 CALLS, AND ALL OF THAT.

THAT IS GOOD GOVERNANCE TO ME.

WE ARE MAKING SURE WE HAVE SAFETY.

ANYWAY, THAT'S JUST WHERE I'M OUT WITH THAT.

MY LITTLE $0.02.

>> MADAM CHAIR, I THINK THERE WAS A LOT OF SLIDES TALKING ABOUT EFFICIENCY AND EFFECTIVENESS AND ALL THAT.

I BRING THIS ENGINEERING PROCESS UP BECAUSE I THINK THE COUNTY COULD BENEFIT FROM A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT ANGLES WE HAVE THE POSSIBILITY OF CREATING MORE DYNAMIC WORK SPACES THAT CAN BE USED MORE EFFICIENTLY.

BUT ALSO MAKING THE RURAL EXPERIENCE OF OUR COUNTY BUILDINGS MORE DYNAMIC IS REALLY IMPORTANT.

IF WE WERE TO MOVE IN THAT DIRECTION, WE WOULD HAVE TO HAVE QUITE A FEW INTERNAL DISCUSSIONS ABOUT HOW TO MAKE THAT WORK INTERDEPARTMENTALLY.

OUR DEPARTMENTS FUNCTION AND ESSENTIALLY INDEPENDENTLY, THEY HAVE DIFFERENT HOURS.

THEY GO TO LUNCH AT DIFFERENT TIMES.

THEY CERTAINLY HAVE THEIR REPORTING STRUCTURE BUT ONE VISION THAT I THINK COULD REALLY HELP BRING A POSITIVE IMPACT TO THE EXPERIENCE OF OUR RURAL CONSTITUENTS IS CROSS TRAINING INDIVIDUALS, SO THAT IF WE HAVE A COUNTY BUILDING, IT'S DOING MULTIPLE THINGS.

THE SHERIFF SUBSTATION WOULD BE ONE EXAMPLE IN THE VILLAGE OF OAK CREEK, RIGHT WHERE THEY GET A LOT OF WALK INS, THEY'RE GOING IN THERE TO GET THEIR DOG LICENSES OR WHAT HAVE YOU OR FINGERPRINTING.

BUT THEY ALSO MIGHT WANT AN INSTANT PERMIT FROM OUR DEVELOPMENT SERVICES DEPARTMENT OR A RIGHT OF WAY PERMIT APPLICATION IS THERE A WAY TO BRAINSTORM THAT RURAL EXPERIENCE WITH SMALL FOOTPRINT AND NOT ADDING A TON OF FTES.

YOU DON'T HAVE TO ADD FIVE FULL TIME EMPLOYEES, ONE FOR EACH DEPARTMENT TO HAVE AN IMPACT IN A RURAL AREA.

>> I THINK THAT'S A GREAT STATEMENT, AND OF COURSE, THAT WOULD BE COLLABORATION AS YOU DEAL WITH THE SHERIFF AND WHAT DOES THAT LOOK LIKE IN THAT PART? SOME OF THE THINGS WE RUN INTO WHEN IT COMES TO LAW ENFORCEMENT, AT LEAST IN THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT, IS THAT SOME DEPARTMENTS JUST CAN'T BE PART OF OR NEAR WHATEVER IT IS THEY'RE DOING AND THAT'S NOT IN MY BACKYARD.

THAT'S ONLY THE CONVERSATION I HEAR ON THE OUTSIDE.

>> BOTH REALLY GOOD COMMENTS, MAURY.

>> I'M JUST GOING TO ADD REAL QUICK TO SUPERVISOR CHECKS COMMENTS.

THE SPACE ISSUES ARE NOT AND I KNOW YOU WEREN'T SUGGESTING IT JUST TO RURAL SERVICES.

WE'VE GOT TO LOOK AT THAT THROUGHOUT.

THAT'S QUITE FRANKLY PART OF WHAT'S BEEN DRIVING OUR COST.

WE HAVE A OVERRELIANCE ON PRIVATE OFFICES IN OUR BUILDINGS.

ANYTIME WE HAVE A CHANGE, WE'RE THEN TAKING DOWN WALLS, PUTTING UP NEW WALLS, WE'VE GOT TO TRANSITION TO A MUCH MORE FLEXIBLE WORK SPACES, WHICH ALLOW YOU TO RECONFIGURE AS NEEDS CHANGE AND STANDARDIZING SPACE SO YOU KNOW IT'S NOT A CONVERSATION.

YOU HAVE TO START FROM THE GROUND UP EVERY TIME YOU'VE GOT A DIFFERENT BUILDING YOU'RE OCCUPYING, WELL, HOW MUCH SPACE DO YOU NEED? YOU KNOW THAT GOING IN?

>> WELL, I THINK THIS IS AN IMPORTANT CONVERSATION TO HAVE FIRST BECAUSE IF WE FIND THOSE EFFICIENCIES IN THAT ENGINEERING PROCESS, IT COULD REALLY GREATLY IMPACT POSITIVELY OUR EXPENDITURE SIDES IF WE FIND THOSE EFFICIENCIES FIRST.

>> ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE'RE DOING IS LISTENING AND WRITING.

AGAIN, THE JOY OF THE 3M STICKY PAD IS THAT YOU CAN MARK IT UP, AND THROW IT AWAY AND REDO IT.

BUT ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE'VE DONE IS WE'VE DRAFTED UP A SAMPLE SUGGESTION FOR YOU AND IT SAYS SOMETHING LIKE BY A CERTAIN DATE, THROUGH THE CONSTRUCTION AND OR REMODELING OF THESE BUILDINGS, THE COMMUNITY WILL EXPERIENCE COUNTYBUILDING INFRASTRUCTURE.

HOLD ON A SECOND. HE'S RIGHT.

I GOT AHEAD OF YOU. BRAUN BUILDING.

>> I HAVE A QUESTION FOR THAT.

>> AS I READ YOUR EXAMPLES UP HERE THERE'S AT LEAST TWO MEASURABLES IN ALMOST EVERY ONE OF YOUR STATEMENTS UP HERE.

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YOU HAVE A YEAR AND YOU QUANTIFY WHAT GOING TO DO.

THAT IS NOT THAT STATEMENT IS NOT GIVING YOU THE SAME INFORMATION THAT THOSE UP THERE. I'M NOT GO TO SAY.

>> GREAT.

YOU KNOW THE [OVERLAPPING]

>> IF YOU'RE GOING TO SET A GOAL, IT HAS TO BE MEASURABLE TO MAKE A STATEMENT THAT YOU'RE GOING TO PROVIDE QUALITY EXPERIENCE, HOW DO YOU MEASURE THAT?

>> WELL, THE WAY THAT GETS MEASURED IS, WHAT WE WOULD DO IN THIS PARTICULAR SITUATION IS WE WOULD SAY BY 20XX THROUGH THE CONSTRUCTION AND REMODELING OF BLANK BLANK, BLANK BLANK, WHO WE'VE TALKED ABOUT, THE COMMUNITY WILL EXPERIENCE COUNTY BUILDINGS AND WORKFORCE CAPABLE OF PROVIDING HIGH QUALITY SERVICES TO THE PUBLIC.

SOMETHING LIKE THAT. NOW, HOW DO WE DEFINE SUCCESS? WELL, ON SEPTEMBER 20TH THROUGH THE WHATEVER, WE'RE GOING TO COME BACK, AND WE'RE GOING TO MAP WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE ACROSS THOSE FOUR OR FIVE CONSTRUCTION PROJECTS SO YOU KNOW THE DATES AND THE TIMES AND WHEN IT'S GOT TO BE DUE, BECAUSE YOU'RE RIGHT, SUPERVISOR, THIS IS NOT A RESULT.

THIS IS A MILESTONE. ALL YOU'RE DOING IS BUILDING BUILDINGS.

THAT'S WHY I WENT TO THE QUESTION ABOUT, IF YOU'RE LOW WATER USAGE 146-147, THAT'S A MEASURABLE STRATEGIC RESULT.

THIS IS A MILESTONE.

ALL YOU GUYS ARE DOING IS GOING TO BUILD A BUILDING AND SO THE MEASURABLE COMES IN IS, ARE YOU GOING TO BUILD IT ON TIME? ARE YOU GOING TO BUILD IT ON BUDGET? ARE YOU GOING TO BUILD IT TO THE SPECS THAT YOU NEED? BECAUSE IF YOU DON'T DO THAT, THE NEXT STEP IS, ARE YOU ABLE TO DELIVER THE SERVICES? RIGHT NOW, YOU'RE NOT? THAT'S A QUESTION.

>> I'D ADD ALSO THAT ONCE YOU DECIDE WHAT SERVICES ARE GOING TO GO IN WHAT BUILDINGS, WHICH ONES MOVE USING ELECTIONS AS AN EXAMPLE? PART OF THAT IMPLEMENTATION PLANNING CAN ACTUALLY BE TO TRACK THE DIFFERENCES IN SERVICE DELIVERY TO THE CUSTOMER FOR THOSE DEPARTMENTS THAT MAY CHANGE LOCATIONS OR ADD CAPACITY IN THEIR IN THEIR BUILDING OR IN THEIR STAFFING AREA.

IS THAT MAKES SENSE SURVEY? IF YOU LOOK AT IT, RIGHT, YOU KNOW HOW ESSENTIAL THESE FOURTH BUILDINGS IN RECONSTRUCTION OR REMODELING ARE.

BUT WE CAN ALSO THEN TAKE THE NEXT STEP WHEN THOSE DECISIONS ABOUT WHEN AND HOW AND WHICH DEPARTMENTS ARE GOING TO BE MOVING WIL.

WHERE YOU CAN ALSO GET DOWN TO ACTUALLY MARKING THE DIFFERENCES THAT THOSE CHANGES IN STAFFING AND AREAS MAKE FOR THE CUSTOMER.

BUT THAT'S NOT POSSIBLE TO DO RIGHT NOW.

>> A GOOD EXAMPLE OF WHAT MARV IS TALKING ABOUT IN A COUNTY THAT WE WORKED WITH, THEY HAD A I THINK THEY CALLED THEIR DEPARTMENT.

I MIGHT HAVE BEEN DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION AND DEVELOPMENT.

BUT THEIR DEVELOPMENT PROCESS REQUIRED THE CUSTOMER TO GO FROM THIS BUILDING TO THAT BUILDING TO THIS BUILDING TO THAT BUILDING, TO GET ALL THEIR STUFF BEFORE THEY COULD DO A BUILDING PROJECT.

WHAT THEY REALIZED IS THAT IF THEY JUST HAD IT ALL IN THE SAME BUILDING, IT WAS A ONE STOP SHOP.

BUT FIRST, THEY HAD TO GET EVERYTHING IN THE RIGHT SPOT BEFORE THEN THEY COULD MEASURE THE REST.

BUT YOUR QUESTION IS RIGHT, AND IT'S VERY VALID.

I WOULD JUST TELL YOU THAT AT THIS POINT, THE CONVERSATIONS HAVE BEEN ABOUT BUILDING THE BUILDINGS THAT HAVE NOT YET HAPPENED, BUT MAYBE VERY MUCH NEEDED.

SO THIS WOULD BE WHAT WE WOULD CALL A MILESTONE UNTIL YOU GET THOSE THINGS CONSTRUCTED.

>> WHAT SHOULD BE MENTIONED IN THAT SHORT LIST?

>>OF BUILDINGS?

>> CAN I JUST START FROM THE BEGINNING HERE.

FOR ME, WHAT I MAPPED OUT IS VERY SIMILAR, BUT BY 20XX, YAVAPAI COUNTY WILL CONSTRUCT AND OR REMODEL, AND THEN I'D LIST THE FOUR LOCATIONS WHICH ARE ME ARE THE SHERIFF'S ADMINISTRATION BUILDING.

GIRLY STREET.

>> IS THAT A BUILDING TWO?

>> GIRLY STREET.

>> COMMERCE, WHATEVER WE WANT TO CALL THAT AND FAIR STREET BUILDINGS.

IN ORDER TO PROVIDE ADEQUATE, PROFESSIONAL SPACE, TO PROVIDE THE SERVICE OUR RESIDENTS DESERVE, WHICH IS VERY SIMILAR TO WHAT YOU'VE JUST SAT THERE.

>> I LIKE YOURS BETTER.

>> WHAT WAS THE THIRD ONE?

>> THE THIRD ONE WAS COMMERCE AND THEN FAIR STREET.

>> WE THAT TO BE BUILT BY 2028 [OVERLAPPING] WHAT YOU SAID? [LAUGHTER]

>> WELL, I APPRECIATE AND AGREE WITH IT, BUT THAT COMPLETELY LEAVES OUT OF RURAL AREAS.

>> YEAH, I'VE GOT IT.

>> I THINK I AGREE, BUT I DON'T KNOW HOW TO ADDRESS THAT YET.

WHETHER THAT BECOMES A SEPARATE GOAL OR NOT.

BUT YES, THAT'S THE NEXT ONE I'VE GOT ON MY LIST BECAUSE THAT DOESN'T ADDRESS THE.

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>> WELL, IT CAN BE CERTAINLY CAN BE SEPARATE BECAUSE IT'S COMPLETELY.

>> NO, BUT I'M SITTING OUT THERE.

BUT IT SEEMED TO BE A LITTLE DIFFERENT THAN WHERE YOU'RE GOING WITH THESE.

>> I WOULD SAY TO CONSTRUCT BUILD BY A CERTAIN DATE, THE RURAL SERVICES DEPARTMENTS THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, SHARE SUBSTATION, MULTI USE FACILITY, MULTITASKING THERE IN THOSE ONE, SMALLER BUILDINGS THAT WE ALREADY ESSENTIALLY HAVE PLANS FOR THAT ARE PRETTY MUCH READY TO GO ON LOW HANGING FRUIT IN SUPERVISOR KUKNOS AREA, SUPERVISOR CHECKS AREA, IN MY AREA.

WELL, YES. ALL THOSE IN A COMBINED THAT'S IN THE SINGLE GROUP, AND THOSE ARE LOW HANGING.

WE'RE REALLY READY TO GO ON THOSE.

THIS BIGGER PICTURE I WANT TO DO NOW AS WELL.

BUT WE REALLY COULD HAVE THOSE COULD REALLY HAVE THOSE UP IN SHORT ORDER.

>> MAURY WOULD YOU PLEASE READ WHAT YOU SAY AND I'LL TRY TO WE'RE NOT FORGETTING COME.

>> IF I CAN, BY 20XX, YAVAPAI COUNTY WILL CONSTRUCT AND OR REMODEL.

THE SHERIFFS ADMINISTRATION BUILDING OR A SHERIFF'S ADMINISTRATION BUILDING.

THE GIRLY STREET BUILDING.

COMMERCE DRIVE BUILDING STRUCTURE AND FAIR STREET BUILDING.

>> FAIR STREET BUILDING. FAIR STREET BUILDING?

>> IN ORDER TO PROVIDE ADEQUATE PROFESSIONAL SPACE.

>> ADEQUATE PROFESSIONAL SPACE?

>> TO PROVIDE THE SERVICE OUR RESIDENTS DESERVE.

>> GOT IT. CAN I READ IT BACK TO YOU, PLEASE?

>> THEN WE'LL MOVE TO THE ONE YA.

BY 20XX, YAVAPAI COUNTY WILL CONSTRUCT AND MODEL A SHERIFF'S ADMIN BUILDING, GIRLY STREET BUILDING, THE COMMERCE DRIVE BUILDING AND FAIR STREET BUILDING IN ORDER TO PROVIDE ADEQUATE PROFESSIONAL SPACE IN ORDER TO PROVIDE THE SERVICES OUR RESIDENTS DESERVE.

WHAT YOU CAN ALSO DO IS START START IT IF YOU WANT TO FLIP IT AND SAY THIS IS GREAT THE WAY IT IS, BUT YOU CAN SAY IN ORDER TO PROVIDE THE SERVICES OUR RESIDENTS DESERVE 20XX YAVAPAI THAT YOU SEE WHAT I'M SAYING?

>> ALL RIGHT.

>> THIS ONE IS ABOUT THAT PIECE.

NOW I KNOW SUPERVISOR COMPTON BROUGHT UP THE RURAL THING.

WE CAN HAVE ANOTHER ONE THAT'S REALLY FOCUSED ON THAT RURAL SIDE, IF THAT AND WE'LL REWRITE THAT AND FLIP IT.

>> I THINK BECAUSE THE GOAL IS DIFFERENT.

WE WANT TO HAVE THE RURAL EXPERIENCE IMPROVED SO IT MAKES SENSE TO HAVE IT BE A SEPARATE GOAL.

>> AM I SUPPOSED TO. YOU'RE THE MAN.

I FEEL LIKE A WEATHER FORECASTER UP HERE.

AS IT RELATES TO THE RURALNESS FACTOR AND THAT PARTICULAR DESIRE, ARE WE SAYING A SIMILAR START? ARE WE SAYING SOMETHING SIMILAR IN ORDER TO PROVIDE THE SERVICES THAT OUR RESIDENTS DESERVE BY A CERTAIN DATE, WE WILL GO LIKE THAT.

>> WELL, MAYBE BACK TO WHAT YOU WERE SAYING IN YOUR EXAMPLE, MAYBE A WORD THAT'S DESCRIBING THAT EFFICIENCY, LIKE A COHESIVE EXPERIENCE OR THAT ONE STOP SHOP THING AND I'M NOT SURE WHAT THE RIGHT DESCRIPTOR IS, BUT THERE'S SOMETHING IN THERE WHERE YOU DON'T HAVE TO DRIVE ALL OVER YAVAPAI COUNTY TO FIVE DIFFERENT BUILDINGS.

THOSE SERVICES ARE BROUGHT TO YOU.

>> SUPERVISOR, IS THIS SO THAT PEOPLE IN YOUR RURAL AREAS CAN ACCESS SERVICES THE SAME WAY PEOPLE THAT LIVE RIGHT HERE?

>> IS THAT?

>> SO THAT OUR RURAL RESIDENTS CAN EASILY ACCESS COUNTY SERVICES BY A CERTAIN DATE, WE WILL.

>> HAVE THE SAME QUALITY SERVICES IN THE RURAL AREA THAT WE HAVE IN THE LOCAL AREA.

>> SO THEY CAN EXPERIENCE THE SAME QUALITY SERVICES IN THE RURAL AREAS.

THAT'S THE REASON WHY WE'RE LOOKING AT THIS STUFF. MAURY, IS THAT?

>> YES. I HAD A SECONDARY SECOND CLAUSE.

I WAS GOING TO ADD TO THE NEXT ONE THAT I DIDN'T USE BECAUSE IT'S

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MORE RELATES TO THE RURAL.

I SAID AFTER DESERVE WHERE THEY ARE NEEDED.

TRYING TO GET TO YOUR POINT OF SO YOU DON'T HAVE TO COME.

THEY'RE GEOGRAPHICALLY SITUATED THROUGHOUT THE COUNTY WHERE THEY'RE NEEDED.

BUT I DON'T KNOW IF THAT GETS TO ALL OF WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, SUPERVISOR, WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT THE NEED TO LOOK AT, HOW WE'RE PROVIDING A SERVICE DIFFERENTLY.

I DON'T WANT TO LOSE THAT EITHER.

>> I THINK THE WORD THAT COMES TO MIND TO HARP ON THAT IS JUST EFFICIENCY.

HOW TO EFFICIENTLY DELIVER THOSE SERVICES IN A RURAL SETTING? BECAUSE IF YOU WANT ALL THOSE SERVICES IN A RURAL SETTING, THE MOST LINEAR WAY TO DO IT IS NOT VERY EFFICIENT.

YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? IT WOULD REQUIRE SOME CHANGES ON OUR PART TO DELIVER THAT EFFICIENTLY.

>> I LIKE THAT WORD AT THIS LEVEL, GIVES YOU THE LATITUDE TO FIGURE OUT WHAT THAT MEANS.

>> THE QUESTION IS, HOW DO WE START THIS ONE?

>> BY DESIGNING THE BUILDINGS.

>> DO YOU WANT IT TO BE PART OF THIS OR IS IT ITS SEPARATE STATEMENT, NIKKI? I AGREE.

>> THAT IS, BUT THESE BUILDINGS DON'T DO THAT. THESE ARE ALL DOWNTOWN.

IF WE PUT WHAT WE'RE SAYING IS AND WE'RE TALKING IF YOU SAID SERVICES ARE RESIDENTS DESERVING IN PLACES WHERE THEY NEED TO BE ACCESSED.

IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT, MAURI, OR DOES THIS NEED TO BE A SEPARATE ONE?

>> I DO BELIEVE WE WANT A SEPARATE ONE.

JUST, IN GENERAL, THE COUNTY SEAT GETS A LOT OF OUR TAX DOLLARS.

I LIKE THE IDEA OF HAVING A SEPARATE GOAL THAT REALLY CALLS OUT, WE'RE GOING TO INVEST IN OUR RURAL AREAS.

>> I AGREE AND HOW WE'RE GOING TO DO IT, IT'S DIFFERENT ENOUGH THAT I THINK IT IS.

I AGREE A DIFFERENT GOAL.

>> THEN, IF I GO BACK TO THAT STATEMENT THAT SOMEBODY SAID, AND I DON'T KNOW WHO IT WAS, BUT I HEARD IT SOMEWHERE, IT WOULD BE THAT SO THAT OUR ALL RESIDENTS CAN ACCESS QUALITY.

>> QUALITY YAVAPAI COUNTY SERVICES EFFICIENTLY.

>> JEREMY, WHILE YOU'RE WRITING, IF I COULD ADD, WE ARE AT THE CUSP OF FINISHING THE RURAL SERVICES MASTER PLAN AND STUDY.

THERE MIGHT BE LANGUAGE IN THERE THAT SAYS AS INFORMED BY OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT TO REFERENCE.

I KNOW, I WISH WE HAD THE RESULTS RIGHT NOW AS WE'RE SITTING HERE.

WE'RE LITERALLY A COUPLE WEEKS AWAY AT MOST, BUT I THINK IT'D BE GOOD TO TOUCH ON THAT.

>> I AGREE.

>> WHAT CAN WE GET DONE WHILE OUR CHAIR AND VICE CHAIR IS OUT HERE?

>> WE CAN JUST ASSIGN THOSE DUTIES WHEN THEY GET BACK, JUST LOOK AT THEM.

>> THEY CAN ACCESS THE SERVICES THEY NEED, AS IN LOCATIONS THAT MAKE IT ACCESSIBLE FOR THEM.

>> BUT THIS YOU SAID BY A CERTAIN DATE.

WE WERE GOING TO DO SOMETHING.

HERE IT JUST SAYS SO THAT RULES BECAUSE THIS IS A SEPARATE STATEMENT.

>> HE WILL GIVE A DATE TOO.

>> THAT RESIDENTS CAN ACCESS.

>> BY A CERTAIN DATE, THIS IS GOING TO HAPPEN.

>> YOU'RE GOING TO REFERENCE THE BUILDINGS, AND YOU'RE GOING TO TIE IT TO THE THE DATA COMING FROM THE PLANT.

>> BUT THE QUESTION IS, AND WE WANT TO IT WAS ELOQUENTLY PUT THERE, AND I WISH MY BRAIN WAS GOOD ENOUGH TO REMEMBER IT ALL.

BUT IT WAS SOMETHING LIKE SO THAT RURAL RESIDENTS CAN ACCESS THE QUALITY SERVICES THROUGHOUT THE COUNTY OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. I DON'T REMEMBER.

>> THERE'S AN AMOUNT OF EQUITY HERE SO THAT RURAL RESIDENTS CAN EQUITABLY ACCESS QUALITY COUNTY SERVICES.

I'M GOING TO PROCESS QUALITY COUNTY SERVICES.

>> UNIFORMLY INSTEAD OF EQUITABLE.

WELL, IT'S NOT GOING TO BE UNIFORMLY.

IF YOU DON'T LIKE THE WORD EQUITABLE.

>> LET'S GET AT THESAURUS. SOMEBODY.

>> WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT EQUITABLE.

>> MAYBE ADEQUATELY, I DON'T KNOW.

I FEEL. BUT WHAT ARE SOME BETTER WORDS TO SAY?

>> GO WITH QUALITY, WHICH IS I THINK IT GIVES IT A FAIR AMOUNT OF DIRECTION THAT WE'RE REALLY TRYING TO DELIVER

QUALITY SERVICES THAT ARE LOCATED SO THEY'RE ACCESSIBLE. >> [INAUDIBLE]

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>> WE DON'T NEED ANOTHER DESCRIPTOR.

>> IS THIS THE KICKER HERE SO THAT THAT RURAL RESIDENTS CAN ACCESS QUALITY COUNTY SERVICES WHERE THEY'RE NEEDED? IF OTHERWISE, THEY HAVE TO COME TO AND I'M MAKING THIS UP.

OTHERWISE, THEY COME TO THE COUNTY SEAT FOR THE MOST PART.

>> IN AN EFFICIENT MANNER, WHERE THEY'RE NEEDED.

WHERE THEY'RE NEEDED IS ALSO TIED INTO THE RURAL SERVICES MASTER PLAN BECAUSE DIFFERENT SERVICES ARE DIFFERENT NEEDED IN DIFFERENT PLACES.

>> SUPERVISOR, MAY ASK YOU A QUESTION.

IF YOU SAID SO THAT RURAL RESIDENTS CAN ACCESS QUALITY COUNTY SERVICES WHERE THEY'RE NEEDED, YOU'RE GOING TO DO THIS THING.

YOU'RE GOING TO BUILD THESE BUILDINGS.

NOW, WHETHER THEY'RE EFFICIENT OR NOT, WE DON'T KNOW UNTIL WE BUILD IT.

IF I HAD ONE SUGGESTION, IT WOULD BE BE CAREFUL ABOUT THE EFFICIENT BECAUSE THEY MAY NOT BE EFFICIENT. WE DON'T KNOW.

>> I GUESS THE EFFICIENCY WOULD BE FOR THE INDIVIDUAL.

>> FOR THE INDIVIDUAL.

>> BECAUSE NOW THEY HAVE TO DRIVE ALL OVER THE COUNTY IS.

>> THEY CAN EFFICIENTLY ACCESS.

>> THERE YOU GO. THAT'S WHAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR.

EFFICIENTLY ACCESS.

>> IS IT EFFICIENTLY OR MORE EASY.

>> BUT I DON'T WANT TO LOSE THE EFFICIENCY ON OUR PART, EITHER.

WE WANT TO DO IT AS EFFICIENTLY AS POSSIBLE.

BACK TO YOUR EXAMPLE.

IF YOU WANT FIVE SERVICES PROVIDED, YOU DON'T WANT TO BUILD FIVE LITTLE BUILDINGS FOR THE FIVE DEPARTMENTS.

THERE'S A WAY TO DO THAT.

>> I WANT TO POKE A LITTLE BIT FROM YOUR CONSTITUENTS PERSPECTIVE.

LET'S SAY I LIVE OUT SOMEWHERE OUT IN FOUR REACHES OF THE COUNTY.

I DON'T CARE NECESSARILY ABOUT WHETHER YOU'RE FISHING OR NOT.

I JUST WANT TO EASILY ACCESS THE SERVICES VERSUS DRIVING ALL THE WAY INTO CITY OF PRESCOTT. YOU SEE WHAT I MEAN?

>> WE CAN INTERNALIZE OUR OWN EFFICIENCY, HOW ABOUT?

>> I THINK YOU HAVE TO THE EFFICIENCY DOES NOT CAN'T GET LOST.

BUT FROM THE CUSTOMER'S PERSPECTIVE, WHAT IS IT THAT YOU WANT THEM TO GET? I THINK WHAT I HEARD YOU SAY IS YOU WANT THE REAL RESIDENTS TO BE ABLE TO EASILY ACCESS QUALITY COUNTY SERVICES?

>> EFFICIENTLY OR EASILY ACCESS WHICH WORK.

>> YOU COULD TALK ABOUT QUALITY COUNTY SERVICES, EFFICIENTLY PROVIDED IN AREAS WHERE A RESIDENTS NEED THEM OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

YOU COULD HAVE PROVIDED EFFICIENTLY SO THAT THEY'RE ACCESSIBLE OR THEY'RE NEEDED.

>> I'M STARTING TO GET AMBIGUOUS ABOUT THESE WORDS, BUT I LIKE THE SIMPLICITY OF EFFICIENTLY ACCESS QUALITY COUNTY SERVICES.

THAT SEEMS TO HIT IT FOR ME.

>> EFFICIENTLY ACCESS?

>> EFFICIENTLY ACCESS QUALITY COUNTY SERVICES.

>> THAT RURAL RESIDENTS CAN EFFICIENTLY ACCESS QUALITY COUNTY SERVICES BY A CERTAIN DATE, WHATEVER THAT MIGHT BE.

THEN WE WOULD SAY, YALL PIKE COUNTY WILL CONSTRUCT.

IS THAT WHAT WE'RE SAYING, USING THAT SAME SORT OF MODEL? WELL, CONSTRUCT AND IN THIS CASE, THERE IS NO REMODEL.

>> WELL, BUT HERE'S WHERE WE COULD ADD IN A QUALIFYING WORD MULTI USE.

CONSTRUCT MULTI USE FACILITIES.

THAT BUILD IN OUR EFFICIENCY AND PROCESS.

>> MULTI USE FACILITIES IN ORDER TO PROVIDE ADEQUATE PROFESSIONAL SPACE.

>> YOU COULD SAY CONSTRUCT MULTI USE FACILITIES IN KEY AREAS OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

>> KEY REAL AREAS.

>> YOU DON'T, THERE MIGHT BE OPPORTUNITIES TO RENT, TOO.

YOU DON'T NECESSARILY HAVE TO CONSTRUCT THEM.

BUT WELL, I DON'T KNOW WHAT'S OUT THERE.

I HAVEN'T ANALYZED THE REAL ESTATE MARKET, BUT CONSTRUCT IS FINE IF WE WANT TO LEAVE IT THERE.

>> I'M JUST SAYING MY FEELING IS THE I AGREE WITH THE MULTI USE, BUT I THINK THAT'S WHAT STAFF COMES BACK TO US AS TO WHAT THESE THINGS LOOK LIKE.

ARE WE TELLING THEM HOW TO BUILD THEM AT THIS POINT OR ARE WE JUST SETTING GOALS AT THIS POINT AND THEY COME BACK TO US ON HOW THESE GOALS ARE ACHIEVED, UNDERSTANDING THAT WE WANT THEM TO BE EFFICIENT FROM BOTH SIDES OF THE COIN, FROM THE COUNTY'S PERSPECTIVE AND CONSTRUCTING THEM AND OPERATING THEM, AS WELL AS TO THE CONSUMER?

>> I WOULD SAY THAT THAT SPECIFIC DIRECTION WOULD COME LATER BECAUSE THAT WILL BE DEPENDING IN MY OPINION ON THE COMMUNITY, WHERE IT'S AT AND WHAT'S NEEDED THERE.

>> WHAT I HAVE IS SO THAT RURAL RESIDENTS CAN EFFICIENTLY ACCESS QUALITY COUNTY SERVICES BY 20 XX.

YOU'LL PIKE COUNTY WILL CONSTRUCT.

WELL, LET'S JUST SAY CONSTRUCT.

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WHAT ARE WE SAYING? FACILITIES.

>> WELL, THEY ARE FACILITIES PER RURAL SERVICES.

>> I DON'T THINK WE WANT TO REFERENCE BACK TO THAT.

YOU WANT TO KNOW MY PERSPECTIVE A WHY ON THAT IS BECAUSE PEOPLE WHO ARE READING THAT THOSE WORDS FOR THE FIRST TIME, THE RURAL SERVICES MASTER PLAN.

THEY'LL SAY, WELL, I DIDN'T HAVE ANY SAY IN THAT.

IT HEARKENS BACK TO SOMETHING THAT'S FIXED. I'M NOT SURE.

>> HOW DO WE DETERMINE WHICH ONES WE BUILD THEN? WHAT IS THE REFERENCE POINT FOR DETERMINING WHICH ROLE CAUSE HERE WE CALLED OUT SPECIFICALLY WHAT FACILITIES WE'RE GOING TO GET BUILT.

HOW DO YOU GIVE THEM DIRECTION ON WHERE TO BUILD THINGS? WHERE DOES THAT INFORMATION COME FROM.

>> MAYBE YOU COULD SAY INFORM.

>> I DIDN'T HEAR YOU SAYING WE'RE NOT GOING TO USE IT.

JUST DON'T CALL IT OUT HERE.

>> BUT WE'RE NOT GOING TO DO IT AS PER DIRECTION OF THE PLAN? WE'RE GOING TO BE INFORMED BY THIS PLAN, WHICH I THINK IS GOOD FOR PEOPLE TO KNOW THAT WE'VE DONE A PLAN, AND THEY CAN READ IT, ACCESS IT.

>> INFORMED.

>> INFORMED BY WHAT?

>> RURAL SERVICES STUDY.

>> THE RURAL SERVICES STUDY. WELL, WHAT? THAT RURAL RESIDENTS CAN EFFICIENTLY ACCESS QUALITY COUNTY SERVICES BY 20 XX, YAVAPAI COUNTY INFORMED BY THE RURAL SERVICES STUDY.

>> CONSTRUCT SHERIFF SUBSTATIONS, BUT I'D LIKE TO HAVE THE SHERIFF COME TOMORROW IF POSSIBLE TO GIVE US WHAT HE WANTS IN THE DIFFERENT AREAS AND MULTI USE FACILITIES IN THE RURAL AREAS.

>> NO. I GOT YOU. LET ME ASK YOUR QUESTION AND I DON'T KNOW THE SITUATION.

FORGIVE ME IF I SPEAK.

DO WE KNOW THAT THE SHERIFF SUBSTATION IS SOMETHING THAT'S GOING TO BE A PART OF?

>> YES. FOR ME.

>> WE DO KNOW THAT AND THE REASON WHY IT WOULD BE GOOD TO HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF INPUT FROM THE SHERIFF IS BECAUSE, AGAIN, I'LL GO BACK TO THE FACT THAT EVEN THOUGH WE WOULD LIKE TO HAVE A MULTI USE TYPE THING, I THINK THIS IS WHAT HAPPENED WITH THE BUILDING DOWN THERE IN SUPERVISOR COMPTON'S AREA, IS THAT IT COME TO REALIZE THERE ARE SOME THINGS THE SHERIFF DOES.

YOU JUST CAN'T REALLY COMBINE A LOT OF THINGS WITHIN THAT BUILDING WITH HIM.

IT'S JUST BECAUSE OF THE FACT THAT IT'S LAW ENFORCEMENT.

>> THERE'S A LOT OF DETAIL THAT'S GOING TO GO INTO THAT SHERIFF'S SUBSTATION, BUT IF I'M A RESIDENT, WHAT IS KEY FOR ME IS TO KNOW THAT IF I'M A RURAL RESIDENT, I'M GOING TO BE ABLE TO ACCESS QUALITY COUNTY SERVICES, AND BY A CERTAIN DATE INFORMED BY YOUR RURAL STUDY, THE COUNTY WILL PROVIDE OR BUILD CONSTRUCT JUST IF YOU NEED TO SAY SHEIFF BUILDING OR SHERIFF SUBSTATION AND MULTI USE FACILITIES, JUST KEEP IT BROAD BECAUSE HERE'S THE THING.

PEOPLE DON'T CARE ABOUT THE DETAILS THAT WE CARE ABOUT HERE.

I'VE HEARD MORE ABOUT DESIGN AND STUFF THAN I'VE HEARD IN MY LIFETIME OVER THE LAST 2 HOURS.

I WANT TO KNOW THAT I'M IN A RURAL AREA, I'M GETTING THE SERVICES WHERE THE SERVICES ARE NEEDED, PERIOD.

>> WHAT ABOUT SOMETHING HERE.

>> YOU MAY OR MAY NOT LIKE THIS, BUT SOMETHING LIKE ESTABLISH SERVICE DELIVERY FACILITIES IN TARGETED RURAL AREAS OR SOMETHING THAT ALLOWS FOR MORE FLEXIBILITY.

>> I LIKE THAT.

>> MARTIN, WOULD YOU REPEAT THAT, PLEASE?

>> ESTABLISH BECAUSE THEN GETS ESTABLISHED GETS AROUND THE CONSTRUCT VERSUS PURCHASE REMODEL.

ESTABLISH SERVICE DELIVERY FACILITIES IN TARGETED RURAL AREAS.

>> I'M IMPRESSED WITH IT.

>> THAT'S JUST ONE BUNCH OF RADISHES.

>> THE FOLKS OUT THERE TALKING WHAT'S BEEN GOING ON ALL WITH THIS.

>> WHAT I'VE GOT HERE I'VE GOT JUST USING ALL THIS COLLABORATION HERE SO THAT RURAL RESIDENTS CAN EFFICIENTLY ACCESS QUALITY COUNTY SERVICES BY A CERTAIN DATE, YAVAPAI COUNTY, INFORMED BY THE RURAL SERVICES STUDY WILL ESTABLISH SERVICE DELIVERY FACILITIES IN TARGETED RURAL AREAS. NOW, AGAIN, THAT'S THE RESULT AND PART OF YOU TELLING YOUR STORY BETWEEN NOW AND WHEN THIS COMES DUE, WE'LL BE GETTING INTO THE WEEDS OF WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE,

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WHETHER THAT'S SHERIFF SUBSTATION, WHETHER THAT'S OTHERS.

BUT FOR ME AS A RESIDENT, WHAT I TAKE AWAY FROM THAT IS THEY KNOW THAT I'M OUT HERE, AND THEY HAVE A PLAN TO START COMING OUT HERE AND HELPING US HAVE THE ABILITY TO ACCESS SERVICES WITHOUT GOING DOWNTOWN.

IT'S A POWERFUL SIGNAL. WHAT DO YOU THINK? I'VE GOT A STRING HERE, YOU GUYS.

WE'VE GOT TWO STRATEGIC RESULTS DEVELOPED.

THOSE STRATEGIC RESULTS, I THINK ARE UNDER INFRASTRUCTURE, IS THAT CORRECT? ARE THERE ANY MORE UNDER INFRASTRUCTURE? THE WAY WE'RE THINKING ABOUT IT, WE CAN HAVE A CONVERSATION THAT WE NEED TO ADD IN HERE.

THESE ARE BIG ONES.

DON'T GET ME WRONG. WE DON'T HAVE TO.

I JUST WANT TO ASK THE QUESTION.

>> YES. WELL, SO YOU ALL KNOW THAT PART OF THE VERDI VALLEY STORY IS THAT WE PRODUCE A LARGE PORTION OF THE PROPERTY TAX DOLLARS FOR YAVAPA YAVAPAI COUNTY, AND WE DON'T RECEIVE NOT EVEN PROPORTIONATE, BUT RATHER EVEN AN EQUITABLE AMOUNT BACK.

I THINK PART OF THOSE SERVICES ARE GOING TO COME THROUGH THE GOAL THAT WE JUST SET.

BUT I THINK INFRASTRUCTURE IS ONE THAT'S REALLY IMPORTANT AS FAR AS ROADS GO.

IF YOU LOOK AT THE NUMBERS OUR DEFINITELY LANDLOCKED.

WE'VE GOT A LOT OF PUBLIC LANDS.

WE ALSO ARE SUFFERING FROM TRAFFIC CONGESTION.

THE WORST TRAFFIC CONGESTION IN YAVAPAI COUNTY AND ALSO COCONINO COUNTY PROBABLY IS IN BETWEEN THE VILLAGE OF OAK CREEK AND SEDONA.

THE SOLUTIONS THERE ARE NOT EASY.

THEY REQUIRE REGIONAL THINKING AND LARGE DOLLARS NO MATTER HOW YOU LOOK AT IT.

I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT FOR THE VERDI VALLEY TO HEAR THAT THAT WE'RE THINKING ABOUT ROAD INFRASTRUCTURE BECAUSE IT'S MEANINGFUL TO OUR QUALITY OF LIFE TO OUR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, HOW WE CONTINUE TO HOST MILLIONS OF VISITORS EVERY YEAR AND CONTINUE TO CONTRIBUTE AT THAT HIGH LEVEL TO THE COUNTY AS A WHOLE.

ROAD INFRASTRUCTURE, IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT WE'VE TALKED A LOT ABOUT AS A BOARD, BUT I THINK IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT, ESPECIALLY IF WE START TO LOOK AT FINANCE PACKAGES THAT SORT OF GO INTO THE FUTURE.

I WANT TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE OPPORTUNITY TO FUND SOME ROADS.

I THINK 260 WAS ONE OF THE EXAMPLES BROUGHT UP IN OUR SPECIAL MEETING THE OTHER WEEK AS FAR AS INFRASTRUCTURE GOES, AND THAT'S REALLY SERVED THE VERDI VALLEY WELL.

I'D LIKE TO SEE, YOU KNOW, PROJECTS THAT WE CONSIDERED, BUT THERE'S PROBABLY MORE OUTSIDE OF THE VERDI VALLEY THAT NEED TO BE CONSIDERED IN THAT CONVERSATION TOO.

HOW ABOUT FOR A THOUGHT THAT YOU TIE THAT BACK TO THE VERDI VALLEY MASTER TRANSPORTATION PLAN.

SUPPROPRIATE, AND SAME SAME THING IF YOU WANT TO DO OVER HERE.

PLAN. I DON'T KNOW WHAT THOSE WORDS ARE, BUT MAKING SURE WE TIE IT BACK TO THOSE PLANS.

THAT MAKES SENSE. WE'VE GOT OUR PROCESS TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE THINKING ABOUT THE BEST REGIONAL SOLUTIONS TIED INTO THAT MASTER TRANSPORTATION PLAN.

THAT MAKES SENSE TO ME.

>> HERE'S A THOUGHT.

IF YOU HAVE TO BORROW MONEY AND YOU'RE PAYING INTEREST ON IT.

THE VERY BEST THING TO DO WITH THAT INVESTMENT IS TO BORROW MONEY ON SOMETHING THAT'S GOING TO MAKE YOU MONEY.

SOMETIMES THOSE INFRASTRUCTURE PROJECTS CAN DO THAT FOR YOU.

I THINK AN IMPORTANT PART OF OUR STORY IS THAT WE'RE NOT JUST LOOKING AT LARGE PROJECTS AND LOOKING AT POSSIBLY TAKING ON SOME DEBT, BUT WE'RE TRYING TO BE SMART ABOUT OUR INVESTMENTS AND MAKE THEM WORK FOR US FINANCIALLY AS WELL.

>> WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT THE PEOPLE WHO LIVE HERE, TRAVEL TO WORK, VISITORS, ETC.

SORRY.IN REGARD TO ROADS, WHAT WOULD YOU LIKE PEOPLE TO EXPERIENCE DIFFERENTLY? DIFFERENT THAN THEIR CURRENT EXPERIENCE.

JUST CONVERSATIONALLY, WHAT IS IT YOU LIKE PEOPLE TO EXPERIENCE TOMORROW THAT THEY ARE NOT EXPERIENCING TODAY WHEN IT COMES TO ROADS, AND TRAFFIC, ETC?

>> ESPECIALLY IF YOU THINK THROUGH OUR ECONOMIC ENGINE IN THE VERDE VALLEY, AND I KNOW THE REST OF PRESCOTT AT LEAST IS TOURISM.

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THE TOURIST EXPERIENCE, IF THEY'RE COMING DURING HIGH SEASON IN SPRING OR FALL, THEY MAY HAVE AN HOUR WAIT IN BETWEEN WHAT SHOULD NORMALLY TAKE THEM 10 MINUTES TO DRIVE.

THAT'S A PRETTY SIGNIFICANT EXPERIENCE ISSUE.

IT DOES HAVE AN ECONOMIC COST.

I BELIEVE THE COUNTY IS THE RIGHT ENTITY TO TAKE THE LEADERSHIP THERE BECAUSE THE SOLUTIONS HAVE TO BE REGIONAL.

THEY'RE NOT WITHIN MUNICIPAL BOUNDARIES.

WE HAVE TO THINK CREATIVELY THROUGH THAT.

BUT THAT'S A MAJOR ISSUE.

THEN WE ALSO HAVE ONE OF THE MORE DANGEROUS ROADS IN DISTRICT 2 WITH CORNVILLE ROAD.

THERE WERE SOME PREVIOUS SOLUTIONS OFFERED UP, BUT THERE WASN'T THE POLITICAL WILL FOR THAT.

IF WE HAVE THE PROCESS NOW TO DEVELOP THE POLITICAL WILL, I'D LIKE TO SEE THE COUNTY THERE TO BE SUPPORTIVE OF THOSE PROJECTS.

I DO THINK IT IS DISPARATE THAT DRIVING EXPERIENCE ON THIS SIDE OF THE MOUNTAIN IS SIGNIFICANTLY BETTER.

I REALLY ENVY THE WONDERFUL PEOPLE WHO LIVE IN WILLIAMSON VALLEY AND CAN EASILY GET ON PIONEER PARKWAY TO 89A TO FAME AND ON THEIR WAY TO PHOENIX, THAT TYPE OF EXPERIENCE IS HARD TO COME BY IN THE VERDE VALLEY.

>> DO YOU WANT TO EXPLORE A GOAL THAT VERY SPECIFICALLY ADDRESSES PERHAPS CREATING PLANS OR WORKING WITH YOUR PARTNERS TO CREATE PLANS, AS WELL AS PROPOSALS TO RESOLVING THOSE TWO VERY POIGNANT TRAFFIC ISSUES?

>> ANYBODY ELSE?

>> I MEAN, YES. I WOULD HOPE THAT IT IS SOMEWHAT IMPORTANT TO MY OTHER SUPERVISORS THAT WE ADDRESS THAT, BUT I'M THE ONLY PERSON HERE.

>> WELL, I WILL ADD, IT ALSO COULD DIRECTLY TIE TO THE NEXT TWO HOUSING AND REGIONAL ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT GOALS AS WELL.

>> I'VE GOT A NOTE HERE THAT'S VERY POIGNANT.

THE HALF CENT TAX GOES BACK TO 80% INSTEAD OF DOWN TO 20 PER.

OUR INFRASTRUCTURE FUNDING HAS SHIFTED SIGNIFICANTLY AWAY FROM ROADS, AND WE'VE HAD THAT MECHANISM, AND THAT INTENT VERY CLEARLY EXPRESSED PREVIOUSLY, SO RESTORING THAT IS ANOTHER WAY TO LOOK AT THAT.

BUT IT'S AWKWARD TIMING BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE THE RURAL SERVICES MASTER PLAN YET, AND WE DON'T HAVE THE VERDE VALLEY MASTER TRANSPORTATION PLAN YET.

I'M TRYING TO HAVE THESE CONVERSATIONS TO LEAVE THE DOOR OPEN.

I KNOW THAT THESE ARE 2-5 YEAR GOALS, BUT IF WE WERE TO GO FOR A BOND, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT A COUPLE OF DECADES LOOKING OUT.

HAVING THESE WINDOWS OPEN FOR THESE OPPORTUNITIES, SO THAT AT THE END OF THE DAY, WE HAVEN'T JUST SPENT DECADES ONLY INVESTING IN THE BARE MINIMUM OF WHAT WE NEED ADMINISTRATIVELY, THAT WE'RE REALLY THINKING PROGRESSIVELY AND HOW TO DEVELOP OUR COMMUNITIES TO BE FUNCTIONAL ECONOMIC ENGINES.

>> YOU CAN PRETTY DIRECTLY TIE IT IN SUPPORT OF HOUSING AND REGIONAL ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT GOALS, WORKING WITH YOUR PARTNERS TO DEVELOP STRATEGIES FOR FUNDING AND ADDRESSING THOSE TWO ISSUES THAT YOU MENTIONED.

I'M JUST COMING BACK.

IS THAT THE KIND OF FRAMING OF THIS? I KNOW WE HAVE STARTED WRITING, BUT DOES THAT SOUND CONSISTENT WITH WHAT YOU'RE THINKING? IN TERMS OF INFRASTRUCTURE, ROADS, TRAFFIC, PUBLIC SAFETY, ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, HOUSING, ETC.

IT'S A LOT, BUT THEY ARE ALL INTEGRATED AT THAT POINT, AREN'T THEY?

>> I'M JUST QUIET ON IT BECAUSE WITHOUT THE MASTER TRANSPORTATION PLAN, AND I KNOW VERY LITTLE ABOUT SIMCA OVER HERE, I'M GRASPING AS TO HOW TO WORD SOMETHING WITHOUT UNDERSTANDING AND AS IDENTIFYING WHERE TO FOCUS THE NEXT TRANSPORTATION NEEDS AND THE FUNDING FOR THAT.

I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'VE GOT SOME WORDS THAT CAN PULL IT TOGETHER, NIKKI.

>> I MEAN, I THINK, ALLEVIATING CONGESTION.

THAT'S SOMETHING THAT CAN BE A STRATEGIC GOAL INTO THE FUTURE.

IF CONGESTION HAPPENS TO OCCUR SOMEWHERE ELSE IN THE COUNTY, ANYWHERE ELSE IN THE COUNTY,

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WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO THINK ABOUT ADDRESSING IT.

>> I JUST HAVE A QUESTION.

THESE PARTICULAR AREAS THAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT, ARE THEY JUST THE COUNTY OR DOES THE STATE OR ANY MUNICIPALITIES HAVE ANY RIGHT INTO THIS BECAUSE MOST OF THE TIME, WHAT I RUN INTO IS THAT WE ARE NOT THE ONLY ONE THAT HAS TO GET INVOLVED OR HAVE INVOLVEMENT, AND WE HAVE TO GET THE OKAY.

THEN THEY TELL US, NO, THEY'RE NOT HAVING IT, AND PART OF IT'S THEIRS.

I'M JUST TRYING TO UNDERSTAND THE COLLABORATION HERE ON HOW THIS WORKS.

I MEAN, THE TOWN OF PRESCOTT VALLEY, THE STATE GAVE THEM ALMOST $10 MILLION TO DO GLASSFORD HILL.

BUT AGAIN, IT WAS A COLLABORATION FOR SURE.

I JUST WOULD LIKE TO KNOW, ARE WE THE ONLY OWNERS OF THIS INFRASTRUCTURE? BECAUSE IF WE'RE NOT, THEN WE DON'T REALLY GET TO MAKE A WHOLE LOT OF RULES HERE.

WE GOT TO SIT AT ANOTHER TABLE TO TRY TO GET BUY IN.

>> I THINK BECAUSE THERE ARE ALTERNATE ROUTES THAT ARE REALLY IN MY MIND, THAT QUESTION IS YET TO BE ANSWERED.

THE STATEMENT THAT YOU COULD WRITE WOULD HAVE WOULD BE WRITTEN TO SAY, WE'RE GOING TO INCORPORATE THE PRODUCTS OF THESE TRANSPORTATION PLANS.

>> I WOULD JUST SAY A STRATEGIC GOAL WOULD BE TO GET THE COUNTY BACK TO THE ORIGINAL, HOW THE HALF CENT SALES TAX WAS SUPPOSED TO BE STRUCTURED, WHICH WAS 80% FOR ROADS.

WE DEVIATED AWAY FROM IT BECAUSE OF COVID AND BECAUSE OF FINANCES, BUT BACK TO WHERE IT WAS ORIGINALLY DESIGNED, WHICH WAS 80-20, WASN'T THAT CORRECT? OR WAS IT 80-20,85-15.

I CAN'T REMEMBER THAT. CURRENTLY IT'S NOT.

>> THAT SEEMS TO ME TO BE MORE OF A TACTIC OF A GOAL STATE YOU WOULD DEVELOP HERE.

ALTHOUGH IT DOESN'T GET A SPECIFIC BECAUSE I THINK AGAIN, WE DON'T HAVE THOSE MASTER PLANS, SO THERE'S SO MANY UNKNOWNS ON THIS ONE, BUT SOMETHING TO THE EXTENT OF IN ORDER TO IMPROVE THE COMMUTING EXPERIENCE FOR RESIDENTS AND VISITORS ALIKE, YAVAPAI COUNTY WILL SUPPORT THE MASTER TRANSPORTATION PLANS, INCLUDING CONSIDERATION OF FINANCIAL PARTICIPATION IN PARTNERSHIP WITH OTHERS.

>> JUST TO BE CLEAR, VICE CHAIR IS THAT, I WAS JUST TALKING ABOUT NOT FUNDING.

I WAS ONLY TALKING ABOUT OWNERSHIP.

>> AGAIN, I HAD THOSE OUTWARDS CONSIDERING FINANCIAL PARTICIPATION WITH OTHERS BASED ON PLANS.

>> THE KICKER OF ALL THESE, ESPECIALLY RELATED TO THE HOT TOPICS, HOUSING, TRANSPORTATION, AND SOMETIMES WATER IS THAT IN A LOT OF THE WORDING, THEY SHOULD PROBABLY SAY WORKING IN CONJUNCTION WITH OUR PARTNERS, BECAUSE MADAM CHAIR, YOU'RE EXACTLY RIGHT.

YOU'RE JUST YOU'RE JUST ONE GROUP AT THE TABLE, AND THERE ARE PROBABLY A LOT.

YOUR ABILITY TO INFLUENCE A RESULT, VERY MUCH IS ABOUT INFLUENCE, NOT CONTROL, BECAUSE YOU DON'T CONTROL IT, YOU INFLUENCE IT.

IT WOULD HAVE TO BE, AS MAURY NOTED, AND AS EVERYBODY HAS NOTED, YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO BE WORKING WITH YOUR PARTNERS, WHETHER THAT BE STATE, LOCAL, FEDERAL, WHOEVER THE TOPIC MIGHT BE, BECAUSE THESE ARE BIG THINGS. RIGHT, MAURI?

>> SHOULD WE SAY IN COLLABORATION WITH OUR PARTNERS?

>> IN ORDER TO IMPROVE THE COMMUTING EXPERIENCE FOR RESIDENTS AND VISITORS ALIKE, YAVAPAI COUNTY WILL SUPPORT THE MASTER TRANSPORTATION PLANS, INCLUDING CONSIDERATION OF FINANCIAL PARTICIPATION.

[INAUDIBLE].

[04:15:05]

>> WE'LL SUPPORT MASTER TRANSPORTATION PLANS INCLUDING? [INAUDIBLE]

>> I'M LOOKING IN MY NOTES HERE.

INCLUDING CONSIDERATION OF FINANCIAL PARTICIPATION.

>> LET ME ASK YOU A QUESTION. IF I CAN READ IT FROM THE OUTSIDE.

WHAT DOES THIS MEAN THAT YOU GOT A LOT OF DIFFERENT MASTER PLANS OUT THERE.

PROBABLY DIFFERENT COMMUNITIES HAVE THEIR OWN RIGHT? ONE OR TWO AND THE IDEA IS THAT YOU'RE GOING TO SUPPORT THOSE AND OR PARTICIPATE, INCLUDING FINANCIAL PARTICIPATION.

>> I JUST HAVE A CONCERN OVER THE WORD WE'LL.

>> THERE WILL SUPPORT RIGHT HERE.

>> WHAT IF YOU SAID YAVAPAI COUNTY WILL CONSIDER SUPPORTING?

>> THANK YOU. THAT'S ACTUALLY WHAT MY NOTES SAYS. I THINK WERE MISSING.

INCLUDING CONSIDERATION OF FINANCIAL PARTICIPATION. THANK YOU.

>> WE'LL CONSIDER SUPPORT.

>> WE GOT IT TWICE.

>> MAYBE YOU CAN TAKE IT OUT THE SECOND TIME.

>> CAN I JUST MAKE A COMMENT? I UNDERSTAND WHAT WE'RE SAYING HERE.

BUT AS I READ THIS, AND THIS IS WHAT IT SAYS TO ME IS, I JUST WANT YOU TO KNOW THAT WE MAY OR MAY NOT BE ON BOARD, JUST LETTING YOU KNOW.

I DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU'RE TRYING TO ACCOMPLISH.

I DO KNOW THAT YOU'RE WANT TO IMPROVE THE COMMUTING EXPERIENCE, BUT WHAT YOU'RE SAYING IS WE WANT TO IMPROVE IT, BUT WE MAY OR MAY NOT BE ON BOARD FY.

WHAT IS IT? ARE YOU PUTTING SKIN IN THE GAME, OR WE NOT? I MEAN, I JUST FEEL LIKE WE'VE LEFT IT OUT.

IT'S VERY SAFE.

>> THAT'S A GOOD POINT.

>> [INAUDIBLE] YOU COULD PUT A PERIOD RIGHT HERE WHERE IT SAYS [INAUDIBLE] IN COLLABORATION WITH OUR PARTNERS IN ORDER TO IMPROVE THE COMMUNITY EXPERIENCE FOR RESIDENTS AND VISITORS ALIKE, AND YAVAPAI COUNTY PERIOD.

YOU SAY YOU WILL IMPROVE THE COMMUNITY'S EXPERIENCE.

>> WE COULD ALSO SAY SOMETHING LIKE YAVAPAI COUNTY WILL ACTIVELY SUPPORT.

THAT DOESN'T SAY WE WILL SUPPORT EVERY MEASURE IN A MASTER TRANSPORTATION PLAN, BUT WE'LL BE ACTIVELY ENGAGED IN SUPPORTING WHATEVER FACET OF THOSE PLANS RESONATE WITH THE BOARD.

>> SO SAY WE'LL ACTIVELY SUPPORT?

>> ACTIVELY ENGAGE.

>> HOW DOES THAT SOUND?

>> THAT SOUNDS FINE TO ME, EXCEPT, I THINK WHERE JEREMY'S GOING IN AND NOW WHEN DRIVING.

NO WAY TO MEASURE THIS.

>> WELL, HERE'S THE THING.

UNLESS YOU BELIEVE, THAT YOU'RE WILLING TO TRY TO INFLUENCE THE COMMUTING EXPERIENCE FOR RESIDENTS AND VISITORS.

DON'T KNOW WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE, BUT YOU'RE SAYING WE'RE GOING TO WORK WITH OUR PARTNERS TO IMPROVE THAT COMMUNITY EXPERIENCE.

THE QUESTION IS, THAT PUTS YOU ON THE HOOK TO SAY, WE'VE GOT TO FIGURE OUT WHAT OUR ROLE IS, BUT WE'RE IN.

BECAUSE RIGHT NOW, YOU'VE GOT COMMUNITIES THAT ARE IN AND COUNTIES NOT.

>> I FEEL LIKE I HAVE TO SAY THIS.

IT'S LIKE THE ELEPHANT IN THE ROOM.

I'VE LIVED IN THIS WORLD WHERE WE'VE HAD PROJECTS, AND WE WERE IN IT, AND THEN WE WERE OUT OF IT.

IT'S BECAUSE THERE WAS A CHANGE, THERE WAS A LOT OF PUSH FROM COMMUNITIES.

THEY DON'T WANT TO DO IT.

THERE WERE GRANTS IN THERE FROM FEDERAL LEVEL.

I'M JUST TRYING TO UNDERSTAND HERE THAT THIS CAN AND HAS GOTTEN VERY MESSY IN THE PAST.

SO THINK WE HAVE DO WE WANT TO CREATE AN EXPERIENCE THAT YOU CAN DRIVE THROUGH YAVAPAI COUNTY, AND IT WILL BE A GOOD EXPERIENCE.

WE WON'T LOOK LIKE WE DON'T KNOW WHERE WE'RE GOING OR WHAT HAVE YOU.

BUT TO THE POINT BEING MADE, WE MAKE THAT STATEMENT.

WE ARE GOING TO HAVE TO DELIVER.

OUR WORDS CAN'T COME BACK VOID.

WE HAVE TO MAKE OUR WORDS TRUE.

WE HAVE TO DELIVER WHEN WE COME OUT AND SAY THIS IS WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO.

>> MADAM CHAIR, LET'S JUST BE BLUNT ABOUT IT.

[04:20:01]

THE VERDE CONNECT WAS THE PROJECT THAT WAS CONTENTIOUS.

WE HAD $25 MILLION IN HAND.

WE SENT IT BACK TO THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT BECAUSE THERE WAS A CHANGE IN BOARD DYNAMICS THAT WAS VERY WELL POINTED TOWARDS THAT AS AN ISSUE.

THAT'S ONE EXAMPLE.

AND IT WOULD BE REALLY TRAGIC FOR AT LEAST MY DISTRICT, AND I KNOW THE REST OF THE VERDE VALLEY, IF THAT WAS THE END OF THE CONVERSATION AS FAR AS ROAD INFRASTRUCTURE GOES IN ADDRESSING OUR REGIONAL TRANSPORTATION ISSUES.

WE CAN'T BE AFRAID TO TRY AGAIN BECAUSE IT FAILED ONCE, BUT LET ME BE CLEAR.

NOT WANT TO REVIVE THAT PROJECT.

WELL, I WILL WORK VERY HARD TO MAKE SURE THAT THOSE POLITICAL LIABILITIES AND PITFALLS FOR NOT PRESENT THE NEXT TIME A PROJECT LIKE THAT COMES TO THE BOARD.

>> PLEASE KNOW SUPERVISOR CHECK, IN NO WAY, DO I NOT SUPPORT INFRASTRUCTURE, BECAUSE I ABSOLUTELY DO.

I JUST WANT TO LEARN FROM THE PAST, THAT WAS UGLY.

WE HAVE TO, OF COURSE, BUILD THE FUTURE.

INFRASTRUCTURE WAS A VERY TOP PRIORITY.

THERE'S I'M NOT AT ALL AGAINST ANYTHING ON THAT PART, I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ALL UNDERSTAND OUR WORD HAS TO BE SOLID.

>> WE CAN'T COME BACK EVERY COUPLE OF YEARS AND SAY, LIKE I MENTIONED EARLIER, EVERY COUPLE OF YEARS I HEAR, WELL, I'M GOING TO DO THIS.

WELL, YOU SAID YOU WERE GOING TO DO THAT THREE YEARS AGO. I'M JUST SAYING.

>> THERE'S GOING TO BE SEVERAL PROJECTS WITHIN THESE TRANSPORTATION PLANS.

I THINK WE CAN COMMIT AS A BOARD TO IMPROVING THE EXPERIENCE, NOT THROUGH ONE PROJECT OR ANOTHER, BUT ABSOLUTELY, AND WE SHOULD.

ESPECIALLY BECAUSE SOME OF OUR HIGHEST PROPERTY TAXPAYERS ARE IN THIS AREA.

RIGHT NOW, THERE'S NOT EASY SOLUTIONS.

THERE'S NOT LOW HANGING FRUIT.

THE COUNTY'S EITHER GOING TO BE A LEADER AND A PARTNER OR NOT.

>> ONE OF THE THINGS THAT YOU'VE BOTH SAID AND I APPRECIATE THE CONVERSATION, AND I TOTALLY GET IT IS THAT IF YOU WERE TO MAKE A STATEMENT THAT SAID BY 20XX IN COLLABORATION WITH OUR PARTNERS AND THE COUNTY WE'LL WORK TO IMPROVE THE COMMUNITY EXPERIENCE FOR RESIDENTS AND VISITORS ALIKE.

WHAT IMPLEMENTATION IS IS LOOKING AT WHAT'S REALISTIC WITHIN THAT TIME FRAME FROM TODAY UNTIL THAT GOAL IS DUE.

MAYBE IT'S A SUBSECTION OF ROAD SOMEWHERE IN THE COUNTY.

SUCCESS DOESN'T MEAN IN FIVE YEARS THAT WE'RE COOKING WITH CRISCO ACROSS EVERY ROAD WE'VE GOT.

IT MEANS THAT WE'RE WORKING TO IMPROVE THAT.

MAYBE THERE'S A GRANT THAT COMES OUT THAT ALLOWS YOU TO DO A STRETCH OF ROAD IN THE COUNTY.

WELL, THAT MAY BE SUCCESS, BUT YOU'RE FOCUSED ON IT.

THE QUESTION REALLY COMES DOWN TO, FIRST OF ALL, DO YOU WANT TO DO IT? DO YOU WANT TO SAY THAT YOU'RE COMMITTED TO DOING SOMETHING OR NOT? THERE'S NOT A RIGHT ANSWER.

IT JUST MEANS IF YOU DO, IT'S GOT TO BE FOCUSED ON SOMETHING.

YOUR COMMITMENT DOESN'T MEAN A GAZILLION DOLLAR OR $100, IT MEANS WHERE ARE THE OPPORTUNITIES FOR US TO MAKE A POSITIVE IMPACT ON OUR ROADWAYS WITH OUR PARTNERS?

>> IT COULD SAY SOMETHING LIKE BY 20 SOMETHING IN COLLABORATION WITH OUR PARTNERS, THE COUNTY WILL WORK TO IMPROVE THE COMMUNITY EXPERIENCE FOR RESIDENTS AND VISITORS ALIKE.

>> PERIOD.

>> I KNOW IT'S NOT SAYING IT DIRECTLY, BUT HOW COULD YOU POSSIBLY DO THAT EFFECTIVELY WITH YOUR PARTNERS IF YOU'RE NOT PAYING ATTENTION TO THE MASTER PLAN?

>> WE'RE CONSIDERING INVESTING.

>> WE'RE CONSIDERING THAT.

>> I KNOW I HEARD IT DOESN'T SAY ANYTHING.

I GOT THIS.

I KNOW IT DOESN'T SAY THAT YOU'RE GOING TO DO 100 MILES LESS THAN EVERYBODY'S GOING TO BE REALLY ROLLING FAST ON THIS ROAD VERSUS THAT, BUT YOU DON'T KNOW THE LAY OF THE LAND YET.

I WOULD ARGUE THAT'S BECAUSE YOU'RE NOT AT THE TABLE.

YOU'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT WHERE THE OPPORTUNITIES ARE, BECAUSE YOU HAD A BAD EXPERIENCE IN THE PAST.

IF YOU'RE NOT AT THE TABLE, YOU CAN'T MAKE IT BETTER, AND IF YOU DON'T MAKE A COMMITMENT, WHICH IS FINE, WE WORK IN A LOT OF PLACES THAT THIS IS A BIG THING.

THAT'S GOOD. BUT WHEN PEOPLE COME TALKING ABOUT THEIR CONGESTION.

>> I THINK YOU HEARD FROM THE MANAGERS FROM YOUR TOWNS AND CITIES, THAT THEY WOULD VERY MUCH LIKE TO SEE THE COUNTY TAKE A COORDINATOR, FACILITATOR, VISION DEVELOPMENT LEADER, IF YOU WILL, IN TRANSPORTATION.

BECAUSE HE GETS SPLINTERED, GETS SILOED IN VARIOUS JURISDICTIONS.

THE COUNTY IS LITERALLY THE ONLY JURISDICTION THAT CAN PROVIDE THAT OVERALL COLLABORATION TO ACHIEVE THIS, I THINK.

>> DID I HEAR IN ONE OF THE SLIDES THAT CYMPO IS ONLY FOR PART OF THE COUNTY.

IS IT TRUE? IT DOESN'T CONSIDER THE WHOLE RESTAURANT?

[04:25:04]

>> THERE'S TWO.

>> CYMPO IS THE CENTRAL YAVAPAI METROPOLITAN PLANNING ORGANIZATION, AND THAT'S FEDERALLY MANDATED FOR AREAS OF POPULATIONS OVER $50,000 WITHIN A CERTAIN GEOGRAPHIC AREA.

THE VERDE VALLEY DOESN'T QUALIFY TO BE WITHIN THAT ON ITS OWN.

IT COULD POSSIBLY BE INCORPORATED INTO THE LARGER CYMPO, BUT IT GETS A LITTLE IFFY WITH ITS LARGE GEOGRAPHIC AREA, AND SAME WITH WESTERN YAVAPAI COUNTY.

NACOG, THE NORTHERN ARIZONA COUNCIL OF GOVERNMENTS, THEIR TRANSPORTATION DEPARTMENT IS WHO'S WORKING ON OUR MASTER TRANSPORTATION PLAN AND DOING THOSE, ASKING FOR THE PRIORITIES TO BRING TO THE LEGISLATURE.

THEN WE HAVE THE VERDE VALLEY TRANSPORTATION PLANNING ORGANIZATION, WHICH I CHAIR, AND THAT BRINGS OUR REGIONAL VOICES TO CONSENSUS, THEN WORKS WITH NACOG TO GET IT INCORPORATED INTO THE TRANSPORTATION PLAN.

THERE'S A LOT WORKING.

I DID NOTE THAT COMMENT THAT WE DIDN'T HAVE THE SAME INFRASTRUCTURE AS PRESCOTT.

THAT'S TRUE, BUT WE DEFINITELY HAVE THE TOOLS WE NEED TO GET TO WHERE WE'RE GOING THERE.

>> AND AN ORGANIZATION TO DO THAT.

>> AND THE ORGANIZATION TO DO THAT.

>> GUYS, THIS IS THE LAST THING I'LL SAY ON THIS ONE.

BUT IN A PLACE WE JUST FINISHED WORKING, THEY'VE HAD A GOAL IN THEIR COUNTY PLAN FOR ALMOST 11 YEARS.

IT HAD TO DO WITH A STRETCH OF ROADWAY THAT THEY'VE BEEN WANTING TO BUILD TO ALLEVIATE CONGESTION.

EVERY YEAR, EVERY TIME THEY UPDATE THEIR COUNTY PLAN, THEY ADJUST SOME OF THEIR WORDING BECAUSE THEY'VE BEEN CHIPPING AWAY AT THAT GOAL.

IT'S PREDICATED ON FUNDING AND ALL THIS OTHER STUFF.

IT CONTINUES TO BE IN THERE, AND THEY CONTINUE TO MAKE ITERATIVE PROGRESS.

TO THEM, I THINK, IT'S ABOUT SAYING, HEY, WE'RE COMMITTED TO TRY TO MAKE THIS BETTER.

>> AS AN EXAMPLE, THEIR SHORT-TERM GOAL OVER THE NEXT THREE YEARS IS TO RAISE $30 MILLION FOR ONE INTERSECTION.

BUT THEY THEN ALSO HAVE THE BIGGER GOAL THAT REQUIRES PROBABLY ANOTHER $170 MILLION.

BUT THESE THINGS DO REALLY TAKE TIME AND LONG-TERM MARATHON EFFORTS TO MAKE IT HAPPEN.

IS THAT TOO BRIEF IF WE SAY BY X DATE IN COLLABORATION WITH OUR PARTNERS, THE COUNTY WILL WORK TO IMPROVE THE COMMUNITY EXPERIENCE FOR RESIDENTS AND VISITORS ALIKE?

>> DOES THAT GIVE YOU THE DIRECTION?

>> I LIKE IT BECAUSE WE DON'T KNOW WHAT WE DON'T KNOW RIGHT NOW WITHOUT HAVING THE TRANSPORTATION PLANS.

I DON'T THINK WE CAN BE MUCH MORE SPECIFIC THAN THAT.

NO OFFENSE ON THE CONSIDER.

BUT TO ME, THAT'S NEGATIVE COMING FROM THE COUNTY SAYING, YOU'RE GOING TO CONSIDER SUPPORTING THE MASTER TRANSPORTATION PLANS.

IT'S LIKE, YOU GUYS AREN'T THE EXPERTS, WE ARE.

THAT'S JUST HOW I TAKE IT.

I'M GLAD WE DROPPED THAT PART OF IT.

>> I AGREE, AND IT COULD ALSO BE TAKEN.

MAYBE WE'LL CONSIDER, MAYBE WE WON'T. WE'LL LET YOU KNOW.

>> THEY'RE NOT IN THERE. THANK YOU.

>> I'M GUESSING THAT WHAT WAS BEING SAID THEN, IS LET'S JUST SAY, WE HAVE A BIG GOAL.

BUT LET'S JUST SAY NEXT YEAR, LET'S SAY WE GOT A LITTLE PIECE OF THAT DONE.

WE WOULD WAVE OUR FLAG, TOOT OUR HORN. HEY, YOU KNOW WHAT? WE'RE MOVING FORWARD, WE GOT THIS LITTLE PART DONE, WE'RE STILL MOVING ON.

CASES OF THE ELEPHANT. RIGHT?

>> YEAH. THEN TO VICE CHAIRS POINT, IT GIVES US A REASON IN OUR STRATEGIC GOALS TO MAKE THOSE SHIFTS IN BUDGETING TOWARDS INFRASTRUCTURE, TOWARDS ROADS.

I REALLY APPRECIATE THE CONVERSATION HERE.

I THINK WE LANDED IN A GOOD PLACE.

>> I WOULD ADD TO THAT TOO, IT ALSO SENDS, AS WE KNOW, A MESSAGE TO THE COMMUNITY, WHAT'S IMPORTANT TO THE BOARD.

THERE'S ANOTHER REASON FOR HAVING IT INCLUDED.

>> PART OF THE STRENGTH IN THIS IS BECAUSE THESE ARE GOING TO TAKE A LONG TIME, MOST OF THEM DO, AS YOU MAKE ITERATIVE PROGRESS.

YOU ACHIEVE SOMETHING PART OF THIS.

YOU SHOUT THAT, YOU TELL THAT STORY TO THE HILL.

BECAUSE WHAT YOU DON'T WANT TO DO IS HAVE A FIVE-YEAR GOAL THAT NOBODY HEARS ABOUT FOR THE NEXT FIVE YEARS.

AS YOU MAKE PROGRESS, AS THERE ARE VICTORIES, AS A BUILDING GETS BUILT, WHATEVER.

YOU REFER BACK, LISTEN, A PART OF OUR STRATEGIC PLAN WAS TO GET THIS DONE, AND BY THE WAY, WE DID.

THAT'S BECAUSE YOU'RE DELIVERING ON WHAT YOU SAY YOU WANT TO DO IT, YOU'RE DOING.

[04:30:02]

>> FURTHERMORE, THE COMMUNITY EXPERIENCE CAN BE MEASURED.

>> RIGHT NOW, LET'S DO THIS.

I THINK IT'S 2:38, OFFICIALLY.

CAN WE TAKE ABOUT 10-15 MINUTES, TAKE A LITTLE BREAK, AND JUMP RIGHT INTO THE NEXT ONE? DOES THAT SOUND GOOD?

>> YEAH. WHAT IS THE NEXT ONE IF YOU DON'T MIND ME ASK?

>> WHATEVER YOU GUYS DECIDE? WE'VE JUST DONE INFRASTRUCTURE, AND WE HAVE HOUSING, REGIONAL ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, PUBLIC SAFETY, AND WATER AND OPEN SPACE.

>> IF YOU DON'T MIND, I REALLY WOULD LIKE TO TEND TO GET TO THE PUBLIC SAFETY TOMORROW.

THAT WOULD BE VERY MUCH APPRECIATED.

WE COULD PROBABLY FIGURE OUT BETWEEN THE OTHERS WHERE WE'RE GOING.

>> THAT'D BE GREAT.

>> I APPRECIATE THAT. THANK YOU.

WELL, WE'RE MISSING A FEW PEOPLE, SO GIVE A COUPLE MINUTES HERE.

>> ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE TALKED ABOUT IN TERMS OF FINISHING UP OUR DAY IS REALLY, WHAT WE NEED TO DO TO BE ON TRACK FOR TOMORROW IS REALLY GET THROUGH ONE MORE STRATEGIC PRIORITY IN TERMS OF IDENTIFYING A RESULT OF RESULTS.

WHAT WE'D LIKE TO PROPOSE, AND SOME FOLKS HAVE THOUGHT ABOUT THIS ON THE BREAK IS TO REALLY FOCUS IN ON WATER AND OPEN SPACE FOR THE REMAINDER OF OUR TIME TOGETHER TODAY.

AGAIN, ONE OF THE THINGS WE OFTEN TALK ABOUT WHEN WE BRING UP A STRATEGIC PRIORITY AREA IS, WHAT'S A RESULT RELATED TO WATER AND OPEN SPACE THAT YOU WANT YOUR COMMUNITY TO EXPERIENCE OR GET? THAT'S JUST DESIGNED TO GET THE CONVERSATION STARTED.

>> JUST THAT THEY'RE HEARD, NUMBER ONE, THAT WE DO LISTEN BECAUSE IT'S ALWAYS A CONCERN, AT LEAST WITH MY RESIDENTS, THAT WITHIN THE CITY, THEY HEAR IT, BUT THEY FIND IT SURPRISING THAT THE COUNTY SUPERVISOR IN THE DISTRICT ALSO KNOWS ABOUT IT AND HAS CONCERNS ABOUT IT.

I DON'T EVEN THINK THEY KNOW WE'RE ENGAGED.

>> ALSO, WITH THAT BEING SAID, IN THE LAST TERM, WE DID PARTICIPATE IN A COLLABORATIVE EFFORT WITH PRESCOTT, PRESCOTT VALLEY, AND THE COUNTY, AND WE WENT TOGETHER IN ON SOME OPEN SPACE TO CREATE SOME TYPE OF TRAILS AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

NOW, THE COUNTY WAS A PARTNER.

IT'S REALLY BETWEEN PRESCOTT VALLEY AND PRESCOTT.

EACH MUNICIPALITY HAS THEIR OWN VISION.

WE WON'T GET INTO THAT.

BUT IT WAS A GOOD EFFORT AND I SEE MORE OF THAT COMING, I BELIEVE.

ACTUALLY IN SUPERVISOR KUKNYO'S DISTRICT, I THINK WE HAD THAT CONVERSATION, AND THAT WAS STARTED BACK IN THE OTHER TERM AS WELL.

WE'VE GONE THROUGH THIS OPEN SPACE AND SERIOUSLY TAKE A LOOK AT IT.

>> I KNOW TANGIBLE OUTCOME, POSSIBLY.

YOU KNOW THAT OUR CONSTITUENTS WOULD BE ABLE TO SEE THAT THE COUNTY IS ACTIVELY TRYING TO BALANCE GROWTH WITH OUR NATURAL RESOURCES, AND OUR ABILITY TO RECREATE AND HAVE EXCELLENT VIEW SHEDS.

I GUESS BALANCE GROWTH WITH THE QUALITY OF LIFE HERE IN YAVAPAI COUNTY.

>> I LIKE THAT. WOULD IT BE POSSIBLE TO EVEN REFERENCE ANYTHING THAT WE'VE ALREADY DONE IN THAT STATEMENT OR IS THAT NOT A POSSIBILITY? THAT VALIDATES OUR VISION OR WHAT WE'RE SAYING. I DON'T KNOW.

>> YEAH. IN SOME OF THESE STATEMENTS, ESPECIALLY WHERE YOU'RE ALREADY DOING SOME WORK, YOU CAN SAY, BY A CERTAIN DATE CONSTITUENTS WILL CONTINUE TO SEE.

A COUNTY GOVERNMENT THAT IS COMMITTED TO BALANCING GROWTH WITH THE PRESERVATION OF NATURAL RESOURCES AND THE ABILITY TO RECREATE.

ONE OF THE THINGS I HEARD WHEN I WORKED HERE A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO FROM ONE OF YOUR MUNICIPALITIES WAS THIS, AGAIN, THIS DESIRE THAT IT'S SUCH A BEAUTIFUL COMMUNITY.

WE KNOW WE'RE GROWING.

IT'S BEAUTIFUL, SO FOLKS WANT TO MOVE HERE, BUT WE DON'T WANT TO GET RID OF WHY THEY CAME.

OUR OPEN SPACES, OUR NATURAL RESOURCES.

I THINK IT'S VALID.

BUT OUR CONSTITUENTS WILL CONTINUE TO SEE A COUNTY THAT IS.

[04:35:10]

>> I KNOW WE TALK A LOT ABOUT SOMETHING THAT'S MEASURABLE.

FOR ME, I SEE THIS AS AN ONGOING VISION.

IF YOU PUT A DATE TO IT FOR RIGHT NOW, BUT YET IT'S SOMETHING WE'RE GOING TO ALWAYS CONTINUE.

IT'LL BE THIS DATE DOING THIS AND THIS DATE DOING THAT.

I DON'T SEE THE OPEN SPACE IN THE WATER.

>> WELL, FROM AN OPEN SPACE PERSPECTIVE, LET ME JUST ASK THIS QUESTION.

WE'LL KEEP THEM SEPARATE FOR A SECOND.

JUST TO EDUCATE ME? WHAT ARE WAYS RIGHT NOW THAT I CAN LOOK TO SOME THINGS THAT YOU'RE DOING, AND I CAN SEE THAT YOU'RE COMMITTED TO PRESERVING THAT OPUS SPACE.

WHAT ARE SOME THINGS THAT YOU'RE DOING?

>> WE JUST PUT $150,000 TOWARDS THE PURCHASE OF SULLIVAN CANYON, WHICH IS A PART OF A REGIONAL RECREATION PLAN.

IT WAS THE LAST PRIVATE IN HOLDING IN A RECREATION AREA IN THE HEADWATERS OF THE UPPER VERDE RIVER, WHICH IS PROBABLY OUR HIGHEST PRIORITY AS FAR AS PRESERVING A NATURAL RESOURCE WOULD BE THE VERDE RIVER.

WE PUT OUR MONEY WHERE OUR MOUTH WAS THERE.

>> CORNVILLE, WINDMILL PARK.

THE PREVIOUS BOARD ALSO HAD DEVOTED RESOURCES SIGNIFICANT TO THE PRESERVATION OF GLASSFORD HILL IN PARTNERSHIP WITH PRESCOTT AND PRESCOTT VALLEY.

THE BOARD IS ALSO HOLDING AN UPCOMING STUDY SESSION REGARDING THEM BECOMING THE HOLDER OF A CONSERVATION EASEMENT IN THE SOUTHERN PART OF THE COUNTY. TO ADDITIONAL.

>> BUT I THINK OPEN SPACE IS VERY IMPORTANT TO PEOPLE, BUT I THINK IT'S ACTUALLY MORE OF A TOOL IN OUR TOOLBOX.

I THINK WHAT OUR CONSTITUENCY IS TRULY DEMANDING OF THE COUNTY IS THAT WE COME TO THE TABLE AND TALK ABOUT WATER.

WE'VE MENTIONED AND IT WAS VERY WELL-HIGHLIGHTED IN THE REPORT THAT THE STATE DEPARTMENT OF WATER REALLY IS THE MANAGER OF GROUNDWATER.

BUT THAT DOESN'T MEAN THAT THE COUNTY COULDN'T BE DOING MORE.

I WOULD SAY AS A CONSTITUENT, I WOULD WANT TO SEE THAT THE COUNTY IS ACTIVELY EXPLORING THE EXTENT TO WHICH THEY CAN POSITIVELY IMPACT OUR WATER FUTURE USING THE TOOLS WE ALREADY HAVE.

>> IT'S A COUPLE OF COMMENTS. I BELIEVE IN THE [INAUDIBLE]

>> SORRY. [LAUGHTER]

>> I BELIEVE THAT WE HEARD, IF I REMEMBER THE FACTS OF WHAT WAS SAID IS THAT, IT'S BEEN A VERY LONG TIME, IF EVER, THERE WAS ACTUALLY A STUDY OF WATER, AND AVAILABILITY IN THE COUNTY, IS THAT CORRECT?

>> THERE'S JUST A LOT OF THE STUDIES IN WHERE PEOPLE FIGHT.

I HAVE TO SAY THAT EVEN IN JANUARY, MANY OF US ATTENDED A GROWING WATER SMART CONFERENCE, WHICH IS GREAT.

THE DEPARTMENT OF WATER RESOURCES MADE A PRESENTATION IN WHICH THEY PRESENTED SOME CONFLICTS.

SO THERE WAS NOT CONSENSUS IN THE GROUP.

THEY HAD SOME MISINTERPRETATIONS OF OUR HYDRO-LOGICAL.

I GUESS WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE IS NOT GET HUNG UP ON THE STUDIES, ON THE DATA, ON THE TECHNICAL SIDE, AND JUST START WORKING ON THE PROBLEM.

>> UNDERSTOOD. SUPERVISOR, LET ME ASK YOU A QUESTION, BECAUSE THAT'S GOOD INFORMATION TO KNOW.

EVERYBODY'S DOING STUDIES.

NOT EVERYBODY AGREES ON THEM.

>> RIGHT. IN A PERFECT WORLD, EVERYBODY WOULD FIGURE OUT A WAY TO COME TO CONSENSUS, BECAUSE UNTIL THAT HAPPENS, THE QUESTION IS, WHAT CAN YOU INFLUENCE? I MEAN, IT'S LIKE WORKING WITH AN IT DEPARTMENT THAT DOESN'T KNOW HOW MANY COMPUTERS THEY HAVE.

I KNOW YOU GUYS KNOW HOW MANY COMPUTERS YOU HAVE.

BUT WHAT I'M SAYING IS, IF YOU GUYS DON'T KNOW THE LAY OF THE LAND, HOW DO YOU GET TO WORK? WHAT CAN YOU INFLUENCE? THAT WOULD BE MY QUESTION TO YOU BECAUSE JUST GETTING TO WORK, YOU COULD BE WORKING ON THE WRONG THINGS.

>> SORRY, GO AHEAD.

>> HOW DO WE SPEAK TO THAT? IT'S JUST NOT US WORKING NOW IN ISOLATION VERSUS EVERYBODY ELSE?

>> WATER IS A TOUGH ONE BECAUSE AS THE COUNTY DOESN'T HAVE AUTHORITY OVER WATER, AND THE COUNTY IS NOT A WATER PROVIDER.

SO THAT'S TWO THINGS THAT WE CAN'T INFLUENCE.

WHAT WE CAN INFLUENCE IS WATER CONSERVATION.

[04:40:02]

>> YEAH. IN TERMS OF THE PUBLIC DISCOURSE, UNFORTUNATELY, WE JUST HAD A PREVIOUS MAYOR OF PRESCOTT SAY THAT THERE IS ABSOLUTELY NO WATER ISSUE, AND AN OP ED IN THE DAILY COURIER.

SO WHAT I'M DEALING WITH THIS SIDE IS, I AGREE WITH YOU WHOLEHEARTEDLY ON EVERYTHING, BUT JUST THE CONVERSATION ITSELF AROUND WATER IS SO DIFFICULT BECAUSE PEOPLE THINK THERE IS NO ISSUE.

>> SOME.

>> YOU'RE EXACTLY RIGHT. YOU HEAR EVERYTHING FROM THERE IS.

ABSOLUTELY NO WATER PROBLEM HERE, TOO.

IT'S A CRISIS YESTERDAY, AND WE FAILED TO ACT.

>> I MEAN, THAT'S A SHAME THAT PEOPLE THINK THAT WAY, BUT EVEN COMMUNITIES THAT ARE RICH IN WATER, AND A LOT OF THEM ARE IN THE VERDI VALLEY.

THEY STILL UNDERSTAND THAT IT MAY NOT ALWAYS BE THAT WAY, AND THAT WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT WATER, WE HAVE TO LOOK AHEAD TO THE FUTURE.

EVEN IF YOU HAVE SUFFICIENT WATER TO PUMP, THERE'S NO REASON WHY YOU CAN'T BE MINDFUL OF HOW MUCH YOU'RE PUMPING AND PUT IN PLACE IF YOU'RE A WATER COMPANY RACE THAT ENCOURAGE YOU TO CONSERVE, OR IF YOU HAVE SUBDIVISIONS OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, CONSERVATION MEASURES ON YOUR LANDSCAPING.

I DON'T KNOW HOW ELSE THE COUNTY CAN DIRECTLY INFLUENCE WATER OTHER THAN THAT, BECAUSE YOU DON'T DELIVER WATER.

YOU CAN'T TELL AND IT'S A BY RIGHT TO PUT A WELL IN, CORRECT?

>> YEAH. I MEAN, I THINK FRAMING THE CONVERSATION AROUND THE VERDE RIVER COULD BE ONE OF THOSE MORE IMPORTANT THINGS AS TO WHY WE MIGHT PRIORITIZE OPEN SPACE AROUND THE HEADWATERS OF THE VERDI RIVER.

WE HAVE THIS OPPORTUNITY WITH OUR ZONING ORDINANCE UPDATE.

CAN WE COME TO CONSENSUS THAT THERE'S AN AREA THAT WE ALL WANT TO SEE FREE OF HIGH DENSITY DEVELOPMENT OR EVEN LOW DENSITY DEVELOPMENT FOR THE SAKE OF MODELING ASIDE THAT IT'S JUST A RISK WE DON'T WANT TO TAKE WITH THE UPPER VERDE THAT CAN BE, A DOZEN CFS AWAY FROM GOING DRY IN THE HOTTEST PART OF THE SEASON.

THEY'RE WALKING THAT LINE WITH THE UPPER VERDE RIVER, AND THERE ARE SO MANY PARTIES THAT DO WANT TO.

I MEAN, PRESC OF OUR LARGE MUNICIPALITIES HAVE SAID, WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT RIVER KEEPS FLOWING.

PHOENIX CERTAINLY WANTS THAT RIVER TO KEEP FLOWING AS IT PROVIDES 40 PERCENT OF THEIR SURFACE WATER.

SO THERE'S THAT AREA OF AGREEMENT WHERE YOU DON'T HAVE TO AGREE ON THE TECHNICAL SIDE OF THINGS, OR YOU DON'T HAVE TO AGREE ON HOW CLIMATE CHANGE IS GOING TO AFFECT THINGS, WHERE YOU CAN JUST SAY, THIS ACHIEVES A COMMON GOAL.

BUT WE HAVEN'T REALLY GOTTEN TO THAT TABLE.

WE'RE WORKING ON ESTABLISHING THE FRAMEWORK FOR IT.

I WANT TO SEE THIS INCLUDED IN OUR STRATEGIC PLANNING, BECAUSE IT'S GOING TO TAKE A LONG TERM APPROACH, AND LIKELY SOME INVESTMENT ON THE COUNTY TO UNDERSTAND WHAT'S THE MOST EFFECTIVE WAY TO FACILITATE THOSE CONVERSATIONS, AND TO BE AN EFFECTIVE PARTNER.

>> I'M HERE TO DELIVER THE MESSAGE THAT I JUST GOT ANOTHER TEXT.

PLEASE BE SURE YOU GOT YOUR MICROPHONES ON, AND THEY'RE COMING THROUGH BECAUSE PEOPLE ARE NOT HEARING IT APPARENTLY ON THE LINE.

>> THANK YOU. IN SUPERVISOR CHECK, AND YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT THE UPPER VERDE, AND IN THE CONTEXT OF WATER CONSERVATION, AND WHATNOT.

ONE OF THE THINGS I'VE SEEN, AND AGAIN, IN SPEAKING ABOUT THE COMPLEXITY OF THE WATER ISSUE.

I MEAN, YOU COULD HAVE A STRATEGIC RESULT THAT READS SOMETHING SIMILAR TO THIS.

BY A CERTAIN DATE, THE COMMUNITY WILL BETTER UNDERSTAND THE NEED FOR WATER CONSERVATION ACROSS YAVAPAI COUNTY, AND BEGIN TO IMPLEMENT STRATEGIES TO CONSERVE WATER.

AGAIN, THE IDEA IS THAT, LISTEN, WE'VE GOT ALL THESE VARIOUS STUDIES THAT ARE OUT THERE.

SOME ARE SAYING THIS, SOME ARE SAYING THAT.

YOU MAY HAVE VARIOUS PARTS OF THE COUNTY THAT ARE BETTER, THAT HAVE A LITTLE BIT MORE THAN THE OTHER.

BUT THE IDEA IS, WHY ARE WE CONCERNED ABOUT IT? WHY SHOULD YOU BE CONCERNED ABOUT IT? TO THE EXTENT THAT YOU CAN INFLUENCE WATER CONSERVATION, AT LEAST GETS YOU A LITTLE BIT DOWN THE ROAD.

PART OF THE STRATEGIES COULD BE ALL STUFF RELATED TO THINGS ON THE UPPER VERDE.

THEY COULD LEAD TO OPEN SPACE TYPE OF INVESTMENTS.

BUT THE IDEA IS, FOLKS HAVE TO UNDERSTAND THE SITUATION, AND BEGIN TO SOME DEGREE TO PRACTICE WATER CONSERVATION.

I THINK I GOOGLED WATER CONSERVATION RELATED TO THIS COMMUNITY, AND THERE'S SOME DATELINE OR SOMETHING POPPED UP.

I DON'T KNOW WHAT IT WAS. STUDY ABOUT A SUBDIVISION THAT DIDN'T HAVE ANY WATER.

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I MEAN, I LIVE IN TENNESSEE, WHERE THAT'S FOREIGN TO ME.

I SEE HOW IT'S SO VERY IMPORTANT.

BUT IT SEEMS LIKE FOLK THERE'S A VARYING UNDERSTANDING OF DO YOU, DON'T YOU? THAT THING. THAT WOULD JUST BE ONE POSSIBLE SUGGESTION.

>> THAT CERTAINLY WAS A COMPONENT OF OUR DISCUSSIONS AS TO WHY WE WOULD CONVENE THIS INTERGOVERNMENTAL COMMITTEE IS TO HAVE SOME CONSISTENCY IN THE HYDRO LOGICAL MESSAGE, EVEN THOUGH IT IS DIFFERENT TO HAVE SOME MEASURE OF UNDERSTANDING, AND CONSISTENCY IN HOW YOU TELL THE STORY, VISUALS THAT YOU CAN USE.

GIVE SOME MORE TOOLS TO THE PEOPLE WHO ARE TRYING TO TELL THE WATER STORY.

SO THAT TOTALLY GIVES WITH OUR EARLIER CONVERSATIONS.

>> ONE OF THE IMPLEMENTATION STRATEGIES COULD BE TO ALSO THEN IN FUTURE YEARS, MEASURE THE IMPACT OF WATER CONSERVATION EDUCATION.

YOU MAY NOT KNOW HOW TO DO THAT RIGHT NOW.

BUT I'M PRETTY SURE THAT IT CAN BE MEASURED WHEN YOU GET PEOPLE TO LIMIT THE AMOUNT OF WATER THEY'RE USING AND USE A WHOLE VARIETY OF WAYS OF DOING THAT.

BUT YOUR STRATEGIES COULD BE VERY MUCH AROUND PUBLIC EDUCATION.

YOUR STRATEGIES COULD BE VERY MUCH AROUND WORKING WITH YOUR PARTNERS.

YOUR STRATEGIES COULD BE VERY MUCH AROUND RESEARCHING THE BEST PRACTICES IN TERMS OF WATER CONSERVATION, MAYBE EVEN REGIONALLY OR NATIONALLY.

AGAIN, YOU COULD HAVE THREE OR FOUR STRATEGIES ABOUT HOW TO DO THIS, AND THEN ULTIMATELY MEASURE ITS IMPACT, EITHER THROUGH SURVEYS OR ACTUAL MEASUREMENT.

>> TYLER, YOU WROTE THAT GRANT.

WHAT WERE THE MEASURABLES IN THE GRANT [LAUGHTER]?

>> YEAH. TO BE HONEST, THE ANSWER IS SHORT.

FOR THE GRANT ITSELF, THEY DIDN'T REQUIRE A LOT OF THOSE TYPES OF IN DEPTH DETAILS.

BUT WHAT WE WERE GETTING AT WAS CONVENING THIS GROUP SO THAT WE COULD LOOK AT THE LOW HANGING FRUIT FIRST, WHICH IS CONSERVATION.

AS MUCH AS WE COULD MEASURE IT, WHETHER IT'S THROUGH A PROGRAM FOR UNINCORPORATED RESIDENTS OR WHAT NOT, WE COULD REPLICATE WHAT CITIES, AND TOWNS DO, BUT ON A LARGER SCALE.

I THINK TO MARS POINT, THERE IS THE IMPLEMENTATION STRATEGY, SOME OPPORTUNITY THERE TO IDENTIFY, AND MEASURE.

BUT AS FAR AS THAT GROUP FOR THE GRANT, IT'S REALLY BEING THE CONVENER, SETTING OUT THE SCOPE, AND ALMOST WORKING IN TANDEM WITH OUR MUNICIPAL PARTNERS TO FIGURE OUT WHAT CAN WE ACHIEVE, AND MEASURE TOGETHER?

>> THANK YOU, TYLER.

THAT'S WHAT I'VE BEEN SETTING HERE PONDERING.

I WANT US TO BE CAREFUL THAT WE DON'T START ESTABLISHING ALL THE STRATEGIES BECAUSE WHEN WE CREATED THE COMMITTEE [LAUGHTER], WE SAID THAT WAS GOING TO BE THE PURPOSE OF BRINGING US IN THAT CONVENING, FACILITATING A ROLE TO BRING THEM ALL TOGETHER, THEN WE COLLECTIVELY WOULD DETERMINE THAT.

>> I AGREE. THAT'S WHERE MY MIND IS GOING IS THAT THIS MIGHT BE A REALLY SIMPLE ACTION ITEM, AND THAT YAVAPAI COUNTY WILL CONVENE AN INTERGOVERNMENTAL DISCUSSION.

>> YEAH, I SAID ESTABLISHED BECAUSE ACTUALLY, WE'VE NOT EVEN ESTABLISHED.

WE'VE GOT AUTHORIZATION FROM THE BOARD, BUT THAT'S IT.

>> SO WHAT I HEAR YOU SAYING, AND YOU CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG IS.

THE CONVERSATION IS, WE COULD GO THE DIRECTION OF JUST SAYING BY A CERTAIN DATE, THE COUNTY WILL CONVENE A GROUP FOCUSED ON WATER CONSERVATION, AND IMPLEMENTATION OF OR.

>> WATER RESOURCES, AND OPEN SPACE [LAUGHTER].

>> RIGHT. APOLOGIES FOR THE ABRIDGED INTERPRETATION.

THE OTHER THING WAS BASICALLY SAYING THAT WORKING IN TANDEM WITH OUR PARTNERS, THE COMMUNITY WILL BETTER UNDERSTAND THE NEED FOR CONSERVATION, AND BEGIN TO IMPLEMENT THOSE STRATEGIES.

HONESTLY, IT'S A STEP.

ULTIMATELY, YOU WANT TO GET TO THIS BOTTOM ONE.

THE QUESTION IS, WHERE DO YOU WANT TO LAND HERE? THAT'S REALLY THE QUESTION.

WHAT DO YOU WANT TO PUT THE LINE IN THE SAND TODAY?

>> MY ONLY HESITATION WITH WHAT YOU JUST SAID, JEREMY WAS WHEN YOU GET TO CONSERVATION.

I THINK THAT WILL OBVIOUSLY BE THERE, BUT AGAIN, THAT STARTS TO SUGGEST WE'RE DETERMINING DIRECTION AHEAD OF THE GROUP.

>> QUESTION FOR ME, JUST FROM A CLARITY PERSPECTIVE.

WHAT WOULD THE CONVENING THE GROUP? IS IT WATER, AND OPEN SPACE? IS THAT WHAT THE TOPIC IS? GOT YOU.

SO IT'S JUST NOT ABOUT CONSERVATION.

THAT MIGHT BE SOMETHING THAT OBVIOUSLY COMES OUT OF IT, BUT IT'S NOT. GOT YOU.

>> WE CALL WATER RESOURCES TO SPECIFY THAT IT'S NOT NECESSARILY ALL WATER SINCE WE DON'T DIRECTLY MANAGE GROUNDWATER, BUT WATER RESOURCES COULD INCLUDE DOING FLOOD CONTROL PROJECTS

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THAT POSITIVELY IMPACT OUR HYDROLOGY, STUFF LIKE THAT.

>> [INAUDIBLE].

>> CAN WE TRY TO GET YOU A MICROPHONE? I'M SORRY.

>> I APOLOGIZE TO YOU YOUR PUBLIC.

>> OH, NO WORRIES. WE GOT TO TRY TO GET IT OUT THERE.

>> THANK YOU, S.

>> I REALLY APPRECIATE THAT.

SO IF YOU WERE TO COMPLETE THIS SENTENCE, THE COUNTY WILL CONVENE A GROUP OF KEY PARTNERS TO DEVELOP STRATEGIES FOR WATER AND OPEN SPACE.

>> RESOURCES.

>> WATER RESOURCES.

>> WATER RESOURCES. THANK YOU.

>> TO ADDRESS WATER RESOURCES, MAYBE.

>> WHAT DO YOU THINK? YES. SO BY 20 X SIX, THE COUNTY WILL CONVENE A GROUP OF KEY PARTNERS TO DEVELOP STRATEGIES TO ADJUST FOR WATER RESOURCES, AND OPEN SPACE.

>> YEAH, I LIKE THAT.

>> YES, THAT'S FINE.

>> HERE'S THE KICKER. WHEN YOU DO THAT, THE QUESTION IS, AND THAT GOES AWAY, AND THE CHECK MARK HAPPENS, SOMETHING'S GOT TO FILL IT SPOT, BECAUSE JUST GETTING A GROUP OF FOLKS TOGETHER.

I MEAN, WE CAN DO THAT AFTER WORK HERE TODAY. I'M MAKING THAT UP.

I MEAN, ALL YOU'RE DOING IS YOU'RE CONVENING THE MEETING.

SO THE QUESTION IS, WE'VE GOT TO FILL THE GAP WITH WHAT'S NEXT?

>> RIGHT. I THINK THAT THOSE GROUPS WILL ESTABLISH THAT.

HONESTLY, WE'VE ALREADY MADE ONE STEP TOWARD MOVING FORWARD BY THE GROUND.

I MEAN WE HAVE SOME FOOTPRINTS, AND OF COURSE.

I THINK REALLY, WHEN WE END UP FINISHING THIS UP, THE FACT OF THE MATTER IS IS WE ARE GOING TO HAVE TO KEEP CHECKING OURSELVES, AND SEEING WHERE ARE WE? WHAT DID WE GET DONE? WHAT DOES THIS STEP LOOK LIKE? BECAUSE WE DON'T WANT TO BE THE PEOPLE IN FOUR YEARS.

WELL, HOW'D YOU DO ON THAT GOAL? WE ALL HAVE THIS PALE EXPRESSION OUT THERE.

SO DEFINITELY WE HAVE TO INSPECT WHAT WE ARE EXPECTING OF OUR WORK.

>> WELL, IT'S NOT DISSIMILAR TO THE TRANSPORTATION ISSUE.

IT'S LIKE WE'RE STARTING A PROCESS THAT WE WANT TO RELY UPON TO INFORM US.

THAT'S REALLY PRESENT IN A LOT OF THESE GOALS.

SO WE'RE ESTABLISHING THIS PROCESS THAT WE WANT TO INFORM US ON HAVING SOME ACTIVE ENGAGEMENT ON THE ISSUE OF WATER, WHICH THE COUNTY HAS NOT BEEN ACTIVELY ENGAGED ON FOR THE LAST DECADE.

>> IS IT POSSIBLE TO SAY.

>> YOU GOT TO USE YOUR MICROPHONE. SORRY.

>> IS IT POSSIBLE TO WRITE THIS GOAL IN TERMS OF THE COMMUNITY WILL EXPERIENCE AN EFFORT BY OR THE COUNTY AND YOUR PARTNERS TO DEVELOP STRATEGIES FOR WATER RESOURCES AND OPEN SPACES? RIGHT NOW, THIS IS A MILESTONE.

THIS IS A PROCESS.

IT DOES NOT REALLY SPEAK TO A RESULT YET.

I THINK JEREMY AND I UNDERSTAND THAT THE GROUP THAT YOU'RE CONVENING WILL COME UP WITH WHAT THOSE GOALS ARE.

WE'LL COME UP WITH WHAT THOSE STRATEGIES ARE, IS THAT ACCURATE? IS WHAT YOU SAID, MAURY.

>> I HEAR WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, BECAUSE YOUR CONSTITUENTS NEED TO KNOW THE LONG GAME HERE, BECAUSE YOU GOT PEOPLE THAT DON'T HAVE WATER AND AS IT'S WRITTEN RIGHT NOW, AND WE UNDERSTAND THE LAY OF THE LAND HERE.

BUT AS IT'S WRITTEN, THIS IS JUST ABOUT GETTING A FEW FOLKS TOGETHER.

I'M BEING VERY FACETIOUS IN THAT STATEMENT.

I THINK IF THERE'S SOMETHING WE CAN ADD TO IT THAT ALLOWS YOU AS SUPERVISORS TO BE ABLE TO TELL YOUR FOLKS, YOUR CONSTITUENTS, I KNOW THIS IS NOT THE END, BUT THIS IS THE BEGINNING OF THE PROCESS THAT WE HAVE TO GO THROUGH TO GET TO WHERE WE NEED TO BE.

>> TYLER.

>> IF I COULD. AS PART OF THE GRANT THAT WE APPLIED FOR, IT'S A TWO YEAR PROCESS THAT WE'VE OUTLINED FROM THE GET GO.

IS THERE A WAY THAT WE COULD SAY, BY X YEAR WITHIN TWO YEARS FROM NOW, ESSENTIALLY, WE WILL HAVE IDENTIFIED BECAUSE THAT'S AN UNDERSTANDING GOING IN.

WE'RE NOT DICTATING ANYTHING UP FRONT,

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BUT WE UNDERSTAND THIS IS A TWO YEAR AT LEAST TO KICK IT OFF, A TWO YEAR FACILITATED PROCESS.

>> THE OUTCOME IS TO POSITIVELY IMPACT OUR HYDROLOGY.

I THINK THAT COULD BE THE OUTCOME.

IT'S LIKE THE TRAVEL EXPERIENCE, WE WANT TO POSITIVELY IMPACT OUR HYDROLOGY WITH WHATEVER PLAN COMES OUT OF THIS.

THERE COULD BE A SECOND PART OF THAT SENTENCE, TOO.

>> TYLER, IN TWO YEARS THE GRANT SAYS, WE'LL GIVE YOU THE MONEY, BUT IN TWO YEARS, YOU GOT TO DO WHAT?

>> OVER THE TWO YEARS THAT THE FUNDING IS AVAILABLE, WE WILL BE CONVENING REGULARLY.

WE HAVEN'T DETERMINED HOW REGULARLY, BUT THE IDEA BEING WE WILL BE GATHERING IN ORDER TO IDENTIFY AND PROCEED WITH STRATEGIES THAT AFFECT HYDROLOGY, CONSERVATION.

AGAIN, THOSE THINGS WILL BE CREATED IN DETAIL BUT WE KNOW FOR SURE THAT IT'S AT LEAST TWO YEARS, AND IT MAY CONTINUE TO GO ON, NO DOUBT, BUT RIGHT NOW WE AT LEAST HAVE TWO YEARS.

>> WOULD IT STRENGTHEN IT TO SAY WE'LL DEVELOP GOALS, STRATEGIES AND GOALS?

>> YEAH, I THINK SO.

TO DEVELOP STRATEGIES AND GOALS TO POSITIVELY IMPACT.

>> THAT CHANGES A LITTLE BIT IN TERMS OF WE WON'T JUST TALK ABOUT WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO.

WE'RE ACTUALLY GOING TO ESTABLISH THE GOALS IF IT HAPPENS TO BE WATER CONSERVATION OR WHATEVER IT MIGHT BE, IF THAT HELPS A LITTLE BIT.

>> THE ASSUMPTION MIGHT BE THAT IF YOU ESTABLISH THOSE GOALS, THEN WHEN THIS ENDS AND YOU'VE GOT THE PLAN, THEN THOSE GOALS REALLY TAKE THE PLACE OF THIS MILESTONE.

YOU PLAN, YOU SET THE GOALS FOR THIS, WORKING IN TANDEM WITH YOUR PARTNERS AND THEN THE GOALS THAT YOU SET TAKE THE PLACE OF THAT WHEN THAT GOES AWAY SO THAT THEN YOU'RE ACTUALLY MOVING IN A CONCERTED EFFORT TO DO THOSE THINGS THAT YOU SAY YOU WANT TO DO.

>> MAYBE IF YOU SAY WE'LL WORK INSTEAD OF CONVENE, CONVENE SOUNDS LIKE, THAT WILL BE DONE IN TWO MONTHS FROM NOW OR TO BE.

WE'LL WORK WITH A GROUP OF PARTNERS TO DEVELOP STRATEGIES.

I APPEAR NOT TO BE TRAINABLE.

I NOT ONLY APPEAR TO BE NOT TRAINABLE, I AM UNTRAINED.

WOULD THAT STRENGTHEN IT SAY WE'LL WORK WITH? DOES THAT HELP? IT'S MORE THAN JUST CONVENING AND BRINGING PEOPLE TOGETHER.

YOU'RE GOING TO WORK WITH PEOPLE FOR TWO YEARS TO DEVELOP THESE STRATEGIES AND GOALS.

>> CAN I ASK ONE QUESTION? IS THE STATE AT ALL PART OF OUR PARTNER IN ANY OF THIS CAUSE AS WE ALL KNOW, WE THEY THEY HOLD THE KEY?

>> I THINK THEY COULD BE.

WE HAVEN'T YET IDENTIFIED EVERY SPECIFIC PARTNER, BUT I REMEMBER AT THE STUDY SESSION, THE BOARD HELD IT WAS AN EXTENSIVE LIST AT THAT POINT SO AS MUCH AS THERE'S BENEFIT, YES.

>> SAID THEY COULD BE ONE OF YOUR KEY PARTNERS.

>> COULD BE.

>> INSTEAD OF THE WORDS TO ADDRESS, WE COULD SAY TO POSITIVELY IMPACT.

HOW DO YOU ADDRESS SOMETHING? YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN?

>> THE BUY SOMETHING DOESN'T QUITE WORK.

BY THIS YEAR, THE COUNTY WILL WORK, BUT WE'RE GOING TO START WORKING WITHIN TWO YEARS.

THIS IS A TWO YEAR PROCESS SO PUTTING, BY 2028, THAT DOESN'T. [OVERLAPPING]

>> OH, YEAH, YOU REALLY WORK YEAR AT THE END.

>> DOESN'T WORK THE WAY THAT IT'S WRITTEN.

>> THE COUNTY WILL WORK TOO, AND THEN BLAH BLAH BLAH, POSITIVELY IMPACT WATER RESOURCES AND OPEN SPACE BY.

>> BY THE YEAR 2020, WHATEVER YOU.

>> OR WE COULD DO LIKE YOU'D SUGGESTED WE DID, WHICH I LIKED WITH THE OTHERS.

LEAD WITH THE IMPACT TO THE RESIDENT.

START TO POSITIVELY IMPACT WATER RESOURCES, NO SPACE FOR THE RESIDENTS OF YET BY GATING BLAH.

>> LET'S DO THAT.

>> AGREED. NICE WORK.

>> I LIKE THAT. WHILE MARV IS WRITING, SO WHAT WE'VE SAID IS TO POSITIVELY IMPACT WATER RESOURCES AND OPEN SPACE, BY A CERTAIN DATE, THE COUNTY WILL WORK WITH A GROUP OF KEY PARTNERS TO DEVELOP STRATEGIES AND GOALS.

IS THAT WHAT YOU WERE THINKING, MAURY?

>> WELL, I WAS JUST ADDING POSITIVELY IMPACT FOR THE RESIDENTS.

MAKING SURE WE'VE GOT THE RESIDENTS OF THE COUNTY IN THERE LIKE WE DO WITH.

TO POSITIVELY IMPACT RESIDENTS AND VISITORS OF THE YAVAPAI COUNTY BY A CERTAIN DATE,

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THE COUNTY WILL CONVENE A GROUP OF KEY PARTNERS DEVELOP.

>> IS THIS OKAY TO START THIS WAY? POSITIVELY IMPACT WATER RESOURCES AND OPEN SPACES.

>> MICROPHONE MIKE.

>> DOES IT WORK TO SAY TO POSITIVELY IMPACT WATER RESOURCES AND OPEN SPACES FOR OUR RESIDENTS AND VISITORS?

>> JUST KEEP THAT THING ON. YOU'RE GOOD. I HOLD IT.

>> FIVE 20 SOMETHING.

>> WE'RE GOING TO RE TWO YEARS ALL THESE AT THE END OF THE DAY. SO THAT THEY.

>> WE'LL CREATE A GROUP OF KEY PARTNERS.

[BACKGROUND]

>> EVERYONE, THIS READS RIGHT NOW, TO POSITIVELY IMPACT WATER RESOURCES AND OPEN SPACE FOR OUR RESIDENTS AND VISITORS.

BY 20 SOMETHING, THE COUNTY AND OUR PARTNERS WILL DEVELOP STRATEGIES AND GOALS.

>> I LIKE THAT. ARE YOU OKAY SUPERVISOR JEFF?

>> TO POSITIVELY IMPACT WATER RESOURCES AND OPEN SPACE FOR OUR RESIDENTS AND VISITORS, BY 20 SOMETHING, THE COUNTY AND OUR PARTNERS WILL DEVELOP STRATEGIES AND GOALS.

>> DO YOU WANT TO SAY, ARE WORKING ON STRATEGIES AND GOALS? I DON'T KNOW.

>> YEAH, BUT THERE YOU COULD SAY, WE'LL CONVENE TO DEVELOP STRATEGIES AND GOALS.

BUT THE END OF THAT SENTENCE IS WEIRD.

>> IT'S ALMOST LIKE WHEN WE FLIPPED IT AROUND, AND I KNOW WHY WE DID IT BUT WHEN WE FLIPPED IT AROUND, I THINK WE LOST THE POWER AT THE END.

AGAIN, WHAT YOU COULD SAY IS, AND I'M JUST AGAIN, I KNOW IT'S A LITTLE BIT OF WORD SMITH, BUT I THINK IT MEANS SOMETHING HERE.

YOU COULD JUST SAY THE COUNTY WILL WORK WITH A GROUP OF KEY PARTNERS TO DEVELOP STRATEGIES AND GOALS TO POSITIVELY IMPACT WATER RESOURCES AND OPEN SPACE BY A CERTAIN DATE.

>> AGREED. THAT'S MORE POWERFUL.

>> PUT THE DATE AT THE END, BECAUSE I TOTALLY.

>> IT'S THE BOTTOM ONE, YOU JUST FLIP THE DATE AT THE END.

>> TO YOUR POINT, SUPERVISOR JENKINS, BECAUSE I THINK THE END OF IT WAS REALLY POWERFUL AS STATED, AND I AGREE WITH MAURY THAT PUTTING IT UP AT THE TOP WAS THE RIGHT IDEA, BUT THEN IT ENDED UP SHUTTING US OFF AT THE END THERE.

THANKS FOR WORKING THROUGH THAT WITH US.

>> THANK YOU, EVERYONE.

>> THANK YOU GUYS FOR WORKING THROUGH ALL OF THIS WITH US.

>> LET ME ASK YOU A QUESTION REAL QUICK BECAUSE I HAVE A QUESTION FOR YOU.

WE JUST TALKED ABOUT A STRATEGIC RESULT THAT MENTIONS WATER AND OPEN SPACE.

IS THAT WHERE ARE WE GOOD WITH THAT? IS THERE ANOTHER ONE WE NEED TO ADD IN HERE OR IS THAT IT AND I'M NOT FISHING I JUST MAKE SURE GOOD.

>> PERSONALLY, I FEEL LIKE OUR PLATE IS GETTING PRETTY FULL CONSIDERING YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THREE YEARS RIGHT NOW.

LITTLE BIT MORE, NOT MUCH BECAUSE THIS YEAR'S ALMOST OVER.

I THINK IF WE WANT TO AND IT'S JUST ME, BUT I'M THINKING IF WE WANT TO BE SUCCESSFUL, WE WANT TO HAVE COMPLETED PROJECTS.

MAKE SURE THE WORDS THAT WE SAY BECOME TRUTH THAT WE WANT TO BE SURE TO PICK THINGS WE WILL COMPLETE AND THAT'S JUST ME, AND I'M OPEN TO ANY OTHER DIRECTIONS.

>> CHAIR, I THINK THAT'S A GREAT STATEMENT.

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AGAIN, IT'S A GOOD APPROACH TO HAVE.

THE THING THAT I WOULD JUST THAT I WANT US TO REMEMBER AS WE GO FORWARD BEYOND THIS PROCESS.

IS THAT WHEN YOU FINISH ONE AND IT GOES OFF YOUR PLATE, YOU'VE PROBABLY GOT THREE OR FOUR THAT ARE DEMANDING TO FILL IT SPOT.

CELEBRATING THE SUCCESS OF THESE IS PARAMOUNT YOU NEED TO TELL YOUR STORY.

BUT JUST KNOW WHEN YOU FINISH THAT, THERE'S ANOTHER ONE RIGHT BEHIND IT.

IS EVERYBODY GOOD WITH THIS FINISHING UP THIS?

>> I JUST HAVE ONE OTHER EXPLORING THAT QUESTION TO ITS FULL END BECAUSE GROUNDWATER IS MANAGED BY THE STATE.

I THINK THERE COULD BE ANOTHER GOAL HERE THAT SIMPLY SAYS, YAVAPAI COUNTY WILL ENGAGE WITH OUR STATE LEGISLATORS AND OUR DEPARTMENT OF WATER RESOURCES TO COME UP WITH SOLUTIONS OR HAVE AN EFFECTIVE PARTNERSHIP WITH THOSE ENTITIES.

I DON'T KNOW IF WE WANT TO GO THAT FAR, BUT IT'S PRETTY HARD.

I FEEL LIKE BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE A GOVERNMENT RELATIONS POSITION, WHAT HAPPENS IN THE LEGISLATURE IS JUST LIKE A BLUR FOR US, AND IN THIS CASE, THEY'RE REALLY INTERRELATED AND I YOU KNOW WE DON'T HAVE TO PUT THAT AS A GOAL, BUT IT'S JUST A SEAT IN YOUR MIND AS FAR AS DO WE WANT TO BE MORE EDUCATED AND ENGAGED IN WATER ISSUES AT THE LEGISLATURE AND ADWR?

>> I COULD BE WRONG ON THIS AND MAYBE I WILL REACH OUT TO STAFF TO GIVE ME THE CORRECT INFORMATION.

I KNOW THERE ARE CERTAIN DEPARTMENTS, THE ACTUAL GOVERNOR OVERSEAS, NOT SO MUCH LEGISLATORS.

WHERE DOES WATER SIT WITH THAT?

>> WELL, BOTH HAVE SOME AUTHORITY THERE.

>> WHAT I WOULD SAY IS THAT WE SURELY CAN TRY TO REACH OUT AND TRY TO ENGAGE WITH THEM.

WE PROBABLY CAN'T SAY THAT IT WILL HAPPEN.

BUT HOW COULD WE WORD IT TO WHERE OUR EFFORTS? WE WILL MAKE EFFORTS OR TRY TO BE EFFECTIVE IN A RELATIONSHIP WITH OUR LEGISLATORS.

IN REGARDS TO THIS SUBJECT. I'M JUST SEARCHING.

>> WE'VE WORKED IN PLACES WHERE THEY WERE FELT HAMSTRUNG BY THE FACT THAT EVERYTHING WAS DRIVEN FROM THE STATE DOWN.

YOU MENTIONED GOVERNMENT RELATIONS AND THE QUESTION IS I THINK IT COULD BE APPROPRIATE TO SAY, YOU'RE GOING TO AGAIN, WORK WITH YOUR PARTNERS TO LOBBY ON BEHALF OF THE COMMUNITY FOR THIS.

THE FIRST THING THAT POPPED INTO MY MIND, AND SORRY BUT WHY DON'T YOU HAVE A LEGISLATIVE PERSON? ALL THIS INPUT TALKED ABOUT THE STATE AND ALL THIS OTHER STUFF, AND YOU DON'T HAVE ANYBODY THERE. WHY NOT? YOU COULD HAVE A GOAL, BUT NOT TO JUMP INTO THAT, BUT YOU COULD HAVE A RESULT THAT SAYS, WORKING WITH OUR MUNICIPAL PARTNERS AND OTHERS WE WILL WORK WITH OUR STATE LEGISLATOR LEGISLATURE TO MOVE TOWARD A RESULT BECAUSE IF NOBODY'S TALKING TO EACH OTHER, IT'S NOT GOING TO GET ANY BETTER.

IT MAY NOT GET BETTER OTHERWISE, BUT AT LEAST YOU'RE TRYING, RIGHT, MADAM CHAIR? MAURY?

>> YES, MAURY. GO AHEAD. [LAUGHTER]

>> SORRY, MY NECK BREAK.

>> SORRY, MAURY.

>> NO, THAT'S ANOTHER CONVERSATION THAT'S COMING VERY SHORTLY.

TO THE BOARD, ZOAR TO ME WAS SAYING, YEAH, HOW CAN WE BUILD THAT IN THERE? [LAUGHTER]

>> SORRY ABOUT THAT.

>> WELL, LET'S GO.

>> I WANT TO SAY THAT I'M HAPPY WITH OUR GOAL, AND THANKS FOR LISTENING TO THAT ADDITIONAL IDEA.

>> NOW THAT YOU'RE HAPPY.

I WAS HAVING A LITTLE BIT OF CONCERN HERE.

WE FOCUSED REAL HEAVILY ON THIS CONVERSATION ON WATER, NOT SO MUCH ON THE OPEN SPACES.

SUPERVISOR CHECKING ON YOU AND I'VE HAD A CONVERSATION ABOUT MAYBE THAT EVENTUALLY BECOMES TWO DIFFERENT GROUPS, AND WE COULD PROBABLY LEAVE THIS ALONE, BUT JUST SOMETHING AGAIN TO BE MINDFUL OF AS WE GO FORWARD BECAUSE THOSE WILL BE A LITTLE DIFFERENT STRATEGIES THERE.

>> WELL, I CAN JUST OUTLINE THAT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE AN OPEN SPACE PLAN FOR YAVAPAI COUNTY CONSIDERED IN OUR ZONING ORDINANCE UPDATE.

THAT COULD BE A SPECIFIC OUTCOME.

I THINK THAT'S A REASONABLE EXPECTATION.

WE ALREADY HAVE THE CENTRAL YAVAPAI METROPOLITAN PLANNING ORGANIZATION WORKING ON THEIR CONSERVATION PLAN, IF YOU WILL.

I DO THINK THAT'S ACTUALLY A REAL TANGIBLE OUTCOME THAT I THINK WE WOULD SEE REALIZED IF WE WROTE IT DOWN.

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>> LET'S WRITE IT DOWN.

>> WHY NOT?

>> WE COULD SAY BY A CERTAIN DATE, THE COMMUNITY WILL EXPERIENCE A YAVAPAI COUNTY PLAN FOR OPEN SPACE OR SOMETHING SIMILAR.

>> I DON'T KNOW THAT I'D CALL IT THE YAVAPAI COUNTY PLAN BECAUSE IT MAY BE DRIVEN BY SIMPA WITH OUR FULL SUPPORT INVOLVEMENT.

>> IT WOULD BE AN OPEN SPACE PLAN FOR THE COMMUNITY.

>> THERE YOU GO.

>> BECAUSE AGAIN, I UNDERSTAND THE DYNAMIC OF WHEN YOU'RE WORKING WITH THESE ORGANIZATIONS AND/OR MUNICIPALITIES, YOU GOT TO DO WHAT YOU GOT TO DO.

BUT IT WOULD BE FOR THE COMMUNITY, BECAUSE IF IT'S NOT FOR THE COMMUNITY, THAT'S WHERE THE PROBLEM IS, IS THAT FAIR?

>> FOR THE WESTERN SIDE OF THE COUNTY, AGAIN, BECAUSE OF THE DISTINCTION ABOUT THEIR SERVICE AREA.

>> I SEE THAT THIS INTERGOVERNMENTAL COMMITTEE WOULD LIKELY SEE THE OPPORTUNITY AND PROBABLY ADD THAT AS AN ACTION ITEM, BUT AGAIN, WE DON'T WANT TO SPEAK FOR THAT COMMITTEE.

BUT I THINK ON SOME LEVEL, IT WILL GET ACHIEVED.

I WOULDN'T WANT TO BOX IT INTO ONE PART OF THE COUNTY OR NOT, BUT EVEN A PORTION OF THE COUNTY, I THINK WOULD BE A SUCCESS.

>> OUT OF JUST BEING VERY DIRECT, OPEN SPACE PRESERVATION HAS AN IMPACT ON RECREATION.

ALSO HAS AN IMPACT ON JUST PRESERVING, WHY PEOPLE COME HERE IN THE FIRST PLACE? CAN BE INFLUENCED THROUGH A NUMBER OF THINGS, WHETHER IT BE DEVELOPMENT, PLANNING, AND ZONING, AS SUPERVISORS CHECK MENTIONED, IS THAT FAIR? SOME MORE WROTE UP A LITTLE DRAFT THERE. VERY SIMPLISTIC.

BY 27, THE COMMUNITY WILL EXPERIENCE A PLAN FOR OPEN SPACE. VERY SHORT.

>> GOOD. [LAUGHTER]

>> LESS IS ALWAYS MORE.

>> I'VE HEARD THAT BEFORE. [LAUGHTER]

>> ARE WE GOOD?

>> THAT'S IT.

>> ONE OF THE THINGS WE TALKED ABOUT, AND WELL, I TEND TO DO THAT A LOT, STUCK MY FOOT IN MY MOUTH, BUT WE WANTED TO GET THROUGH TWO OF THESE OF A DAY.

>> NOW, IT'S ACCORDING TO THAT CLOCK, IT'S 3:35.

NOW, WE CAN START A THIRD ONE, GET HALFWAY THROUGH.

I KNOW THERE'S SOME DESIRE TO MOVE ON AND CONVENE AGAIN AT NINE IN THE MORNING.

WE ARE OKAY WITH THAT, BUT HERE IS THE DECISION POINT.

WE HAVE THREE MORE OF THESE TO GO IF WE DO THAT.

WE'VE GOT TO GET THOSE DONE TOMORROW.

IF WE WORK HARD AND WE'RE MAKING DECISIONS, IN A LOT OF WAYS LIKE WE'RE DOING TODAY, THAT'S NOT GOING TO BE A PROBLEM, BUT WE CAN'T LEAVE TOMORROW UNTIL WE GET THEM DONE.

YOU TELL ME WHAT YOU FOLKS WANT TO DO.

>> I'LL REACH OUT TO MY FELLOW COLLEAGUES HERE.

WE HAVE OUR DIRECTION.

WE CAN STOP NOW.

WE GET BACK TOMORROW MORNING AT NINE O'CLOCK, AND WE REALLY PUT OUR FEET TO THE FIRE, AND WE GET THE REST OF IT DONE BECAUSE I DO KNOW YOU HAVE TO ALSO GET A PLANE, AND ALSO WE HAVE COMMITMENTS THAT FOR OTHER SUPERVISORS DOWN IN THE VALLEY AT FIVE O'CLOCK IN SCOTTSDALE.

IF WE GET BACK WE GET HERE AT NINE O'CLOCK IN THE MORNING, IT'S GOT TO BE CHOP.

WE GOT TO WORK HARD.

LUNCH COULD BE LIKE A HALF AN HOUR.

ARE WE GOOD? WHAT DO WE WANT TO DO?

>> GO AHEAD. IF THERE'S NOT A FORMAL PRESENTATION TOMORROW. IT'S JUST WORK TIME.

I THINK I'M CONFIDENT THAT WE COULD GET THROUGH THOSE THREE TOMORROW.

I LOVE WORKING LATE, SO IF YOU GUYS WANT TO STAY, I'M HERE FOR IT.

>> NO. [LAUGHTER] TOMORROW MORNING'S FINE, MA'AM.

>> WHAT TIME DO YOU SOME OF YOU HAVE TO LEAVE TO GET TO PHOENIX BY FIVE? DO I HEAR THAT?

>> WE PREFER TO LEAVE AROUND THREE OR 3:15.

>> THAT'S 5.5 HOURS OF WORK TO GET THREE DONE.

CAN WE DO THAT? DO YOU START [INAUDIBLE]?

>> CAN WE DO THAT?

>> I THINK SO. BUT LIKE I SAID, I'M HERE FOR IT.

>> WELL, I THINK IT REALLY ALL DEPENDS ON HOW MUCH CONVERSATION THAT WE AS ELECTED HAVE.

AS LONG AS WE DON'T GET IN THE WEEDS, STAY FOCUSED, KNOW THAT LESS IS MORE. WE CAN GET THIS DONE.

>> YOU'VE DONE GOOD TODAY.

I'M GOING TO TELL YOU, IN TERMS OF YOU CAME IN KNOWING SOME OF THE THINGS THAT YOU WANTED TO TALK ABOUT.

JUST OBSERVING THE PROCESS COMPARED TO OTHER FACILITATIONS, YOU'VE DONE A PRETTY GOOD JOB OF COMING TO CONSENSUS AND MAKING A DECISION AND MOVING ON.

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IF WE HIT THE GROUND RUNNING TOMORROW AND WE KNOW WHAT WE NEED TO DO, WE CAN DO THAT.

>> WELL, I'M GAME. I'M IN IT.

WE'LL BE HERE AT NINE IN THE MORNING.

>> YOU WANT TO DO AT NINE IN THE MORNING AND LEAVE NOW?

>> YEAH. LEAVE NOW AND DO NINE IN THE MORNING, AND IT'S BOOTS TO THE GROUND AND WORKING HARD AND FAST, FAST AND FURIOUS. ARE WE READY?

>> WE'LL BE WORKING ON HOUSING, REGIONAL ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, AND PUBLIC SAFETY, IS THAT CORRECT?

>> I DO THINK PUBLIC SAFETY WE'D LIKE TO HAVE THAT FIRST.

THEN WE'LL MOVE ON WITH THE OTHER TWO. THAT'LL HELP.

I DO THINK PUBLIC SAFETY WILL BE PRETTY QUICK.

I DON'T SEE THAT BEING A BIG DEAL.

I THINK WE HAVE A LOT GOING ON INTO THE INFRASTRUCTURE WITH PUBLIC SAFETY AS IT IS.

WE MADE A COMMITMENT.

WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO MAKE OUR WORDS BE THE TRUTH.

>> THANK YOU, EVERY BUDDY.

>> WE WILL RECESS AND CONVENE TOMORROW AT 9:00 AM.

>> GOOD MORNING, EVERYONE.

WE ARE COMING BACK IN TO OUR STUDY, OUR STRATEGIC PLANNING.

IF EVERYONE COULD HAVE A SEAT.

MAKE SURE YOUR PHONES ARE SILENCED.

WHEN YOU TALK TODAY, MAKE SURE THAT WE USE A MICROPHONE.

IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT BECAUSE PEOPLE CAN'T HEAR YOU WHEN THEY'RE ONLINE, AND THE RECORDING DOESN'T COME THROUGH EITHER.

IT'S FINE TO MOVE AROUND, MAKE SURE YOU CLIP THAT ON YOUR SHIRT OR HOWEVER WE'RE HANDLING THIS.

WITH THAT BEING SAID, CLERK OF THE BOARD, I WILL ASK FOR ROLL CALL.

>> CHAIR MALLORY.

>> VICE CHAIR COMPTON.

>> SUPERVISOR JENKINS.

>> PRESENT.

>> SUPERVISOR CHECK.

>> SUPERVISOR KUKNYO.

>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. JUST A RECAP.

>> YOU HAVE A QUORUM.

WE GOT A LOT DONE YESTERDAY, BUT WE STILL HAVE A LOT TO GET DONE.

SOME PEOPLE HAVE PLANES TO CATCH, AND SOME PEOPLE HAVE DIFFERENT EVENTS THEY HAVE TO GET TO DOWN NEAR SCOTTSDALE.

WITH THAT BEING SAID, WE GET A HALF AN HOUR LUNCH, IS IT AT NOON? [BACKGROUND] AT NOON, WE HAVE A HALF AN HOUR LUNCH.

SO WE GOT TO MOVE QUICKLY AND BE VERY EFFECTIVE AND EFFICIENT. I'M ON IT.

>> YES, MA'AM.

>> LET'S GO.

>> WELL, GOOD MORNING. IT'S GOOD TO SEE YOU ALL AGAIN.

YESTERDAY, WE STARTED THE PROCESS OFF BY TAKING A LOOK AT SOME OF OUR STAKEHOLDER ENGAGEMENT.

WE LISTENED TO THAT. THEN WE DEVELOPED YESTERDAY, WE DEVELOPED FIVE PRIORITY AREAS, INFRASTRUCTURE, HOUSING, REGIONAL ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, PUBLIC SAFETY, AND WATER AND OPEN SPACE.

DURING OUR TIME TOGETHER, YESTERDAY, I JUST WANT TO REVIEW VERY QUICKLY.

DEVELOPED THREE STRATEGIC GOALS RELATED TO INFRASTRUCTURE.

WE DEVELOPED TWO RELATED TO WATER AND OPEN SPACE.

I'M I'M JUST GOING TO PARAPHRASE THE INFRASTRUCTURE ONES.

THE FIRST ONE RELATED TO INFRASTRUCTURE HAS TO DO WITH THE CONSTRUCTION ANNUAL REMODEL OF THE SHERIFF'S ADMIN BUILDING, THE GURLEY STREET BUILDING, THE COMMERCE DRIVE BUILDING, AND THE FAIR STREET BUILDING.

WE ALSO HAD A SECOND ONE RELATED TO FACILITIES THAT WAS REALLY SPECIFIC TO TARGETED RURAL AREAS TO MAKING SURE FOLKS IN THE RURAL AREAS HAD EFFICIENT ACCESS TO QUALITY COUNTY SERVICES.

THEN THE THIRD ONE RELATED TO INFRASTRUCTURE HAD TO DO WITH IMPROVING THE COMMUTING EXPERIENCE FOR OUR RESIDENTS.

THOSE WERE THREE GOALS RELATED TO INFRASTRUCTURE.

IN TERMS OF WATER AND OPEN SPACE, WE HAD TWO STRATEGIC RESULTS OR GOALS.

THE FIRST HAD TO DO WITH DEVELOPING STRATEGIES AND GOALS TO POSITIVELY IMPACT WATER RESOURCES AND OPEN SPACE.

THEN THE SECOND WAS VERY MUCH DEVOTED TO OPEN SPACE AND THE DEVELOPMENT OF A PLAN FOR OPEN SPACE FOR THE COMMUNITY.

THOSE ARE THE FIVE STRATEGIC RESULTS THAT WE DEVELOPED YESTERDAY.

PER OUR PLAN, THE IDEA IS TO MOVE INTO A CONVERSATION NOW RELATED TO PUBLIC SAFETY.

WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO SUGGEST IS, PER THE PROCESS THAT WE WENT THROUGH YESTERDAY, WHAT IS IT ABOUT PUBLIC SAFETY? WHAT ARE THE RESULTS? OR WHAT IS THE EXPERIENCE THAT YOU WANT YOUR COMMUNITY TO HAVE RELATED TO PUBLIC SAFETY?

>> THANK YOU FOR THAT.

WITH THAT BEING SAID, THE WAY I THOUGHT WE COULD START THIS OFF ON THE PUBLIC SAFETY IS THAT WE COULD HAVE

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AN OPPORTUNITY TO HEAR A LITTLE BIT FROM OUR SHERIFF BECAUSE, AS I WAS SAYING BEFORE, WE WENT THROUGH AN INCIDENT A FEW YEARS AGO IN THE OTHER TERM, WHERE THE BOARD WORKED WITH DIRECTORS AND THINGS LIKE THAT AND HAD THIS PLAN.

HERE WE ARE IN THE MIDDLE OF IT, AND THEN ALL OF A SUDDEN, SOME DIFFICULTIES CAME UP.

I CAN TELL YOU THAT BECAUSE OF THOSE DIFFICULTIES IS PART OF THE REASON WHY THAT GURLEY STREET BUILDING DID KIND OF END UP SITTING IN THE PREDICAMENT THAT IT'S IN RIGHT NOW.

WE DON'T ALWAYS UNDERSTAND HOW THE JURISDICIAL SYSTEM MAY WORK AND HOW THE PEOPLE WORK TOGETHER INSIDE OF IT.

IT'S REALLY SUPER IMPORTANT, I THINK TO GET THAT LITTLE BIT OF A FEED AS WE MOVE FORWARD, DOING THE BUILDINGS AND THE INFRASTRUCTURE THAT IS NEEDED.

WITH NO FURTHER ADO, WE HAVE OUR SHERIFF HERE.

>> WHATEVER YOU WANT. SHERIFF YOU CAN COME OVER TO SIT RIGHT HERE, SIR. THANK YOU. YES, SIR.

>> WHAT WOULD YOU LIKE TO KNOW?

>> WELL, WE WOULD LIKE TO KNOW, HOW ARE THE NEEDS OF YOUR DEPARTMENT? WHAT DO THESE BUILDINGS ACTUALLY MAYBE NEED TO LOOK LIKE AS WE MOVE FORWARD? I KNOW THAT THE VICE CHAIR HAS A LOT OF QUESTIONS AS WELL.

WHAT WE WANT TO DO, SHERIFF, IS MAKE SURE THAT WHATEVER WE MOVE FORWARD IN, THAT IT'S GOING TO BE SUITABLE FOR WHAT THE NEEDS ARE FOR THIS COMMUNITY, YOUR JOB TO BRING GOOD EFFICIENT SAFETY TO OUR CONSTITUENTS.

>> THANK YOU. MADAM CHAIR, MEMBERS OF THE BOARD, COUNTY ADMINISTRATION, OUR CONSULTANTS THAT ARE WORKING ON THIS PROJECT.

WE'RE GRATEFUL TO BE HERE TODAY AND HAVE THIS OPPORTUNITY TO DISCUSS THE LONG TERM FUTURE OF PUBLIC SAFETY AND THE COUNTY AS A WHOLE AND HOW WE CAN INTERACT WITH THE COUNTY ON THERE HOW TO PAY FOR ALL THIS, AND HOW TO STRATEGIZE AND HOW TO COMMUNICATE TO THE PUBLIC.

DAVIE RHODES, YAVAPAI COUNTY SHERIFF, SHERIFF FOR THE LAST FIVE YEARS WITH THE AGENCY FOR 31 YEARS.

THIS HAS COLORED I HAVE A LOT OF EXPERIENCE WITH THE COUNTY AND WHERE WE STARTED AND WHERE WE'RE GOING AND WHERE I THINK WE NEED TO GO AND WHAT'S IMPORTANT.

WE'VE BEEN THROUGH A NUMBER OF THESE PROCESSES BEFORE, HOPING THAT WE TAKE ACTION ON SOME OF THESE THINGS.

I'VE HAD A LOT OF CONVERSATIONS WITH THE BOARD MEMBERS, TOURS OF THE CAPITOL, THE BUILDINGS, THE DIFFERENT PLACES, A LOT OF CONVERSATIONS ABOUT THE SUBSTATIONS IN THE RURAL AREAS WITH SUPERVISOR COMPTON, PARTICULARLY, SO LET'S GET STARTED.

FIRST OF ALL, THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE HAS NOT HAD ANY CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS IN THE LAW ENFORCEMENT DIVISION IN MY CAREER, 31 YEARS.

WE'VE WE'VE BUILT NO NEW BUILDINGS.

WE HAVE HAD VIRTUALLY NO INCREASE IN SPACE ON THE LAW ENFORCEMENT SIDE DURING THAT ENTIRE TIME.

IN 31 YEARS, WE HAVE BUILT WHAT WE CALL THE TWIN TOWERS, 480 BEDS OF JAIL SPACE IN THE VERDI VALLEY, AND WE BUILT THE CRIMINAL JUSTICE FACILITY HERE IN PRESCOTT.

THOSE COMBINED PROJECTS COST IN THE DOLLARS AT THE TIME, ABOUT $95 MILLION.

BUT NOTHING HAS BEEN INVESTED IN PUBLICS OR IN THE LAW ENFORCEMENT SIDE OF THE HOUSE.

NOW IS THE TIME TO BEGIN TO INVEST IN CAPITAL.

I'VE GOT A FEW OTHER THINGS THAT I'M GOING TO BRING UP AS PART OF OUR STRATEGIC PLAN AT THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE. I'LL SHARE WITH YOU.

I'LL START WITH THE SUBSTATIONS IN THE OUTLYING AREAS.

CURRENTLY, WE NEED A NEW SUBSTATION IN SELIGMAN, ASHFORD.

WE NEED A NEW SUBSTATION IN SOUTHWESTERN, YAVAPAI COUNTY, THE PEOPLE'S VALLEY, OR CONGRESS.

WE NEED A SUBSTATION IN THE VILLAGE OF OAK CREEK,

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AND WE NEED A SUBSTATION IN THE MAYOR AREA.

I'LL TELL YOU WHY.

SELIGMAN ASHFORD HAS THE POPULATION UP THERE, WHICH I'M NOT SURE WHAT IT IS EXACTLY, BUT I'VE FLOWN OVER IT AND SEEN ALL THE DEVELOPMENT IN THOSE RURAL PARTS.

I WOULD ESTIMATE THERE ARE SEVERAL THOUSAND PEOPLE LIVING UP THERE, AND THERE USED TO BE SEVERAL HUNDRED.

AND THE SUBSTATIONS ARE A SYMBOL OF COMMUNITY SECURITY.

THEY'RE A SYMBOL OF PUBLIC SECURITY.

WHEN PEOPLE DRIVE BY AND THEY SEE THE NAME SHERIFF ON THE SIDE AND THEY SEE THE FLAG FLYING OUT IN FRONT OF IT AND THEY KNOW THAT THEY CAN GO IN AND TALK TO SOMEBODY OR MEET SOMEBODY THERE OR THAT THERE'S ESSENTIALLY A SAFE PLACE.

THAT TRICKLES DOWN FROM THERE AND CREATES A SENSE OF SECURITY FOR THE COMMUNITY THAT WE JUST DON'T NECESSARILY HAVE IN SOME OF THESE PLACES RIGHT NOW.

BUT THAT ONE'S VERY OLD.

THE ONE IN YARNELL THAT WE HAVE RIGHT NOW IS BUTTED UP TO THE COURT OR IT'S PART OF THE BUILDING WITH THE COURT.

THE COURT REALLY NEEDS THAT SPACE.

IT'S INADEQUATE FOR US.

YOU GO THROUGH THE BACK DOOR.

WE WOULD LIKE TO CO-LOCATE WITH PEOPLE'S VALLEY FIRE IF THAT'S POSSIBILITY.

THERE WAS A MILLION DOLLAR APPROPRIATION FOR A PUBLIC SAFETY BUILDING THAT WE WORKED ON WITH REPRESENTATIVE BLISS, DURING THIS LAST YEAR.

SO WE WOULD AND WE WOULD LIKE TO GET STARTED ON THESE RIGHT AWAY.

THE SUBSTATION IN MARE IS IN A SCHOOL.

IT'S IN THE OLD SCHOOL.

IT'S JUST IN THE BACK OFFICES THERE.

IT'S HARD TO FIND. IT'S HARD FOR THE COMMUNITY.

THERE'S A LOT OF OTHER BUSINESS GOING ON THERE.

IT'S NOT THE PLACE WHERE YOU WANT TO BE TAKING PEOPLE YOU'VE ARRESTED OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.

WE NEED A NEW LOCATION THERE.

SUBSTATION BLACK CITY IS REALLY GOOD.

WE CAN REPLICATE THAT ALL OVER THE COUNTY, IN MY OPINION.

>> WE'RE AT THE CRIMINAL JUSTICE FACILITY IN CAMP VERDI, AND IT'S ADEQUATE FOR NOW.

THAT'S NOT A TOP TIER PRIORITY.

IT'S ADEQUATE, BUT IT WOULD BE GOOD TO COLOCATE WITH THE OTHER PUBLIC SAFETY FACILITIES OVER THERE.

THE VILLAGE OF OAK CREEK HAS BEEN IT'S LIKE IN A LITTLE STRIP MALL OFF TO THE SIDE, LIKE THE CLOSET OF THE BAKERY AND IT'S BEEN THAT WAY MY ENTIRE CAREER, 31 YEARS.

THE VILLAGE OAK CREEK, I THINK, 78,000 RESIDENTS NOW, THREE OR 4 MILLION A YEAR PASSING THROUGH THERE.

WE NEED A SUBSTATION THERE IN THE VILLAGE OF OAK CREEK.

THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE ON GURLEY STREET HAS BEEN THERE SINCE 1980, AND THAT'S WHERE THE OLD JAIL WAS, AND THE JAILS OUT OF THERE NOW.

WE RECENTLY HAD SUPERVISOR CHECK WAS OVER THERE, CHECKING IT OUT, AND VALIDATED THE BOARD'S DECISION TO BUILD A NEW FACILITY.

BUT WE DON'T HAVE THE SPACE TO DO THE THINGS THAT WE NEED THERE.

WE NEED A NEW 911, A NEW DISPATCH CENTER.

WE NEED MORE SPACE FOR RECORDS.

WE NEED A SECURE BUILDING.

THAT BUILDING HAS ANYBODY BASICALLY CAN GET INTO IT.

THERE'S TWO LOCKED DOORS.

ANYBODY CAN WALK WHERE ALL THE LAW ENFORCEMENT VEHICLES ARE PARKED, ANYBODY CAN DO WHATEVER THEY WANT TO DO THERE.

WE NEED A NEW ACTUAL PUBLIC SAFETY BUILDING THAT OR HAS A REGIONAL 911 CENTER THERE.

WHERE I BELIEVE THAT WE NEED TO BUILD THIS FACILITY IS ON THE PAD THAT IS PREPARED FOR CONSTRUCTION NEXT BETWEEN THE CRIMINAL JUSTICE FACILITY AND JUVENILE DETENTION.

YOU HAVE ABOUT FIVE ACRES ISH THAT ALREADY HAS UTILITIES.

IT'S ALREADY PREPPED FOR CONSTRUCTION.

COUNTY ALREADY OWNS IT.

IT'S READY TO GO FOR CONSTRUCTION AND IT'S THAT LOCATION IS NOT LIKE WE WOULD PUT ANYTHING ELSE THERE, IN MY OPINION.

BUT WE HAVE OTHER NEEDS AS A REGION COLLABORATIVELY AND I THINK THAT THIS WOULD BE THE TIME TO LOOK AT ADDING TO THAT FACILITY TO MEET THOSE NEEDS.

ONE IS THE NORTHERN ARIZONA REGIONAL TRAINING ACADEMY.

CURRENTLY, THAT'S AT YAVAPAI COLLEGE, AND THEY'VE BEEN GOOD PARTNERS, AND THEY PROVIDED WHAT THEY HAVE, BUT THE FACILITY THERE IS NOT BIG ENOUGH FOR THE CLASS SIZES THAT WE'RE HAVING

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NOW AND SO WE NEED AN EXPANSION OF THAT AND ALL THE PARTNERS AGREE TO THAT.

I CERTAINLY DON'T THINK THAT THE COUNTY SHOULD FOOT THE BILL ENTIRELY FOR THAT BY THEMSELVES.

I THINK THAT WE CROWD FUND THAT WITH AN APPROPRIATION MAYBE FROM THE LEGISLATURE OR WHATNOT.

THE EMERGENCY OPERATION CENTER THAT THE COUNTY HAS, IT'S IN A CONFERENCE ROOM.

THERE'S A FEW THINGS THERE, BUT IT'S OFF SITE, OUT OF MIND AND NOT REALLY CONNECTED TO THE PUBLIC SAFETY APPARATUS OF THE COUNTY.

YOU HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO BUILD AN ACTUAL EOC AT THAT LOCATION AND MOVE EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT THERE, WHICH I THINK WOULD BE A GOOD THING TO DO.

STAFFING.

THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE IS ENJOYING VERY GOOD STAFFING AND RECRUITING NOW, WHICH IS 180 DEGREE TURN FROM FOUR YEARS AGO WHEN I FIRST STARTED THIS JOB AND THE REASON WHY IS BECAUSE THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS HAS MADE A COMMITMENT TO RECRUITMENT AND RETENTION CONSISTENT COMPENSATION INCREASES.

COMPENSATION INCREASE POLICIES, IN MY OPINION, NEED TO BE FACTORED IN ALWAYS TO THE REVENUE PROJECTIONS AND THE FUTURE GROWTH.

INCREMENTAL INCREASE IN PUBLIC SAFETY INFRASTRUCTURE, INCLUDING PERSONNEL, EACH YEAR IS WHAT'S NEEDED TO PREVENT US FROM GETTING INTO A SITUATION UNDER EXPLOSIVE GROWTH WHERE PUBLIC SAFETY IS NOT KEPT UP.

THEN YOU START TO HAVE REAL PUBLIC SAFETY PROBLEMS, AND THE ONE, TWO YEAR INVESTMENT IS JUST TOO MUCH TO REALLY EVER GET CAUGHT UP.

THIS HAPPENS A PLACES ALL OVER THE COUNTRY.

TRAINING IS ALWAYS GOING TO BE A MAJOR ISSUE FOR PUBLIC SAFETY.

RURAL HOUSING.

ONE OF THE DIFFICULTIES THAT WE'VE HAD IS HAVING DEPUTIES LIVE IN THE RURAL AREAS, UNIFORMED OFFICERS, UNIFORMED DEPUTIES THAT CAN RESPOND TO THINGS THAT LIVE IN THOSE AREAS.

THERE'S A LOT OF REASONS FOR IT.

THE COST OF HOUSING IS OBVIOUSLY EXPENSIVE, EVEN OUT THERE.

BUT THERE'S NOT THE THINGS THERE THAT THEY NEED FOR THEIR FAMILIES AND WHATNOT.

WE NEED TO MAKE THAT MORE ATTRACTIVE BY HAVING COMING UP WITH EITHER THE PURCHASE OR THE BUILDING OR THE LEASING OR THE STIPENDS FOR OFFICERS, CONSISTENT HIGH LEVEL STIPENDS FOR THE DEPUTIES THAT ARE LIVING THOSE RURAL AREAS.

THESE OUT THERE ARE THE ONES THAT REALLY THE COMMUNITY BUILDS THAT TRUST WITH AND THAT RELATIONSHIP WITH AND THAT'S REALLY I THINK WHERE WE NEED TO BE FOCUSED.

WE NEED TO USE OUR CAPITAL INVESTMENT TO COLOCATE SIMILAR SERVICES AND COLLABORATE WITH ALL THE GOVERNMENT AGENCIES THAT ARE IN THE COUNTY.

YOU NEED TO USE CAPITAL, LIKE I SAID, FOR NATA, WHICH IS A MULTI AGENCY TRAINING ACADEMY, NEED IT FOR PANT, WHICH IS THE NARCOTICS TASK FORCE, WHICH IS NOW HTA HERE IN THE COUNTY WITH FEDERAL, STATE, AND LOCAL OFFICERS ALL WORKING TOGETHER IN ONE BUILDING.

AT 911 IT'S MY OPINION THAT YAVAPAI COUNTY IS RIPE FOR TWO 911 REGIONAL 911 CENTERS, ONE IN THE VERDI VALLEY, ONE ON THE WESTERN SIDE OF THE COUNTY, THE PRESCOTT AREA AND A LOT OF REASONS FOR THAT, THAT WE CAN GO INTO, BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY, THE BIG THING IS THAT THE CITIZENS NEED TO PICK UP THE PHONE AND GET EMERGENCY RESPONSE AS FAST AS POSSIBLE.

THE ONLY WAY TO GET THAT DONE IS TOTALLY REGIONAL 911 CENTERS.

THERE NEEDS TO BE GREATER COLLABORATION AND WE NEED TO LOOK AT THE ORGANIZATIONAL STRUCTURE OF EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT.

EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT IS IT'S DIFFICULT IN THE ADMINISTRATION OF EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT FOR IT TO BE AS EFFECTIVE AS IT REALLY COULD BE AND SHOULD BE.

THERE'S OTHER MODELS AND OTHER AREAS THAT I THINK WORK BETTER, AND I THINK WE SHOULD TAKE A LOOK AT THAT AND HOW IT WORKS.

THEN FINALLY, THE COUNTY, IN MY OPINION, A MAJOR PART OF THE PUBLIC SAFETY STRATEGIC PLAN HAS TO INCLUDE TECHNOLOGY UPGRADES.

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WE'RE GOING TO GET LEFT BEHIND, AND YOU'RE GOING TO END UP WE'RE GOING TO END UP WITH ANTIQUATED RECORDS MANAGEMENT SYSTEMS, ANTIQUATED CAD SYSTEMS, COMPUTER AIDED DISPATCH.

THERE'S SO MUCH THAT'S OUT THERE NOW AND THE AI BOOM IS HAPPENING, AND THERE'S A LOT OF REALLY GOOD TOOLS THAT ACTUALLY ARE MAKING REDUCING THE BURDEN ON OUR DEPUTIES, ON LAW ENFORCEMENT, ON OUR EMPLOYEES, AND BY INVESTING IN TECH AND INVESTING IN THINGS THAT REDUCE THE BURDEN, IT REDUCES THE ASK FOR ADDITIONAL PERSONNEL, WHICH IS ALSO THE MOST EXPENSIVE PART OF THE COUNTY'S BUDGET.

I'LL STOP RIGHT THERE AND TAKE ANY QUESTIONS.

>> THANK YOU, SHERIFF. I DON'T HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.

I DON'T KNOW ABOUT THE OTHER REST OF THE BOARD.

I THINK THIS KNOWLEDGE IS GOOD AS WE MOVE FORWARD WHEN WE'RE THINKING ABOUT WHAT DOES THIS LOOK LIKE? OF COURSE, IT'S A BIG PIECE AND WE'LL HAVE GOOD PROJECTS MOVING FORWARD, COMPLETE THIS, COMPLETE THAT.

I SEE THE VICE CHAIR MIGHT HAVE SOME.

>> YES. I JUST APPRECIATE YOU COMING DOWN HERE TODAY, SHERIFF TO CLARIFY THINGS FOR US SO WE CAN MOVE TOGETHER AS A BOARD.

WE HAVE ONE NEW MEMBER THAT MAYBE HASN'T SEEN AS MUCH JUST BECAUSE OF TIME AND WITH MYSELF, IN MY ELECTION, I WAS ACTUALLY ON THE JOB FOUR MONTHS BEFORE I WAS ON THE JOB SO I'VE BEEN DOING THIS FOR ALMOST A YEAR ALREADY, AND I APPRECIATE OUR CONVERSATIONS THAT HAVE BEEN EXTENSIVE, ONGOING, AND IN REFERENCE TO SUBSTATIONS.

I APPRECIATE THE KNOWLEDGE YOU'VE IMPARTED TO ME THAT WILL CERTAINLY HELP ME MAKE THE DECISION MOVING FORWARD, AND I JUST WANTED THE BOARD TO HAVE A BETTER UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT OUR NEEDS ARE, AND I REALLY APPRECIATE IT.

>> THANK YOU, SUPERVISOR COMPTON FOR THOSE COMMENTS AND ALL THE CONVERSATIONS THAT WE'VE HAD ABOUT PARTICULARLY THE CAPITAL NEEDS.

>> SHERIFF, CAN I ASK YOU A QUESTION? I THINK SUPERVISOR CHECK OUT.

>> NO, I JUST WANTED TO SAY THAT EVERYTHING THAT YOU SAID SEEMS TO REALLY OVERLAP WITH A VISION, AND I REALLY APPRECIATE HEARING IT DIRECTLY FROM YOU THAT REALLY HELPS US MOVE FORWARD.

>> SHERIFF A QUICK QUESTION, AND I JUST WANT TO CAUSE I APPRECIATE ALL THE THINGS YOU'VE SHED AND EDUCATES US ON KIND OF THE LAY OF THE LAND.

AS YOU THINK ABOUT THE COMMUNITY AND HOW IT'S GROWING.

I GUESS MY QUESTION TO YOU IN REGARDS TO THIS STUFF, ARE THERE ANY CONCERNING AREAS RELATED TO PUBLIC SAFETY THAT ARE REARING ITS HEAD, WHETHER IT BE TRAFFIC INJURIES, FATALITIES, WHETHER IT BE CERTAIN CRIME STATISTICS THAT ARE A CHALLENGE FOR YOU AS AN AGENCY, OR IS A LOT OF THIS HAVE TO DO WITH MAINTAINING THE LEVEL OF SAFETY AND SECURITY THAT IS FELT RIGHT NOW WITHIN THE COMMUNITY?

>> THANK YOU FOR THAT QUESTION.

YOUR MAIN CHALLENGES FOR PUBLIC SAFETY RIGHT NOW, WE ALWAYS HAVE THE ATTEMPTS OF PEOPLE TO GET INVOLVED IN DRUG DEALING AND ORGANIZED CRIME, AND YOU HAVE THESE THINGS, AND WE WORK REALLY HARD TO PREVENT THAT.

BUT THE CHALLENGES THAT YOU'RE HAVING REED ARE RELATED SPECIFICALLY TO GROWTH AND THAT IS TRAFFIC.

EVERY COMMUNITY IN THIS COUNTY, THE CITIZENS TEXT ME OR CALL ME OR EMAIL ME WEEKLY, COMPLAINING ABOUT TRAFFIC.

THEY'RE COMPLAINING ABOUT THE NUMBER OF VEHICLES THAT ARE ON THE ROAD, THE MANNERS OF THE DRIVERS, THE SPEEDING, THE ACCIDENTS, AND PEOPLE GENERALLY ARE JUST VERY, VERY CONCERNED ABOUT THAT.

THE OTHER THING, IT COMES UP AND THEN WHEN THERE'S RAIN, IT GOES AWAY FOR A LITTLE BIT.

BUT FIRE SAFETY IS A MAJOR CONCERN.

THERE'S NOT A LOT YOU CAN DO.

WE'VE BEEN AN EXTENDED DROUGHT.

WE DIDN'T HAVE A WINTER, WE HAVEN'T HAD ANY MONSOONS.

I DON'T THINK WE'VE EVER HAD THE FIRE DANGER IN LATE AUGUST, THE WAY THAT IT IS RIGHT NOW THAT I CAN REMEMBER IN 31 YEARS.

THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS THAT HAVE TO BE DONE.

THERE'S PARTNERSHIPS THAT HAVE TO BE FORGED TO HELP BECAUSE IT'S ALL ABOUT PREVENTION.

YOU WANT TO CREATE DEFENSIBLE SPACES, YOU WANT TO USE THE TIME THAT YOU HAVE TO DO THAT, AND YOU WANT TO IDENTIFY THE AREAS.

YOU WANT TO KNOW WHERE THE GROWTH IS OCCURRING AND WHERE THE EVACUATIONS NEED TO OCCUR.

THIS IS WHERE A BETTER PARTNERSHIP, I THINK WITH EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT WOULD HELP US DO THAT AND THOSE ARE YOUR TWO MAIN AREAS.

OBVIOUSLY, THE CITIZENS ARE THE COUNTY IS VERY CONCERNED ABOUT THE REMNANTS OF THE BORDER SITUATION.

THEY'RE CONCERNED ABOUT DRUG TRAFFICKING,

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THEY'RE CONCERNED ABOUT THESE THINGS.

BUT THOSE ARE THE TWO THINGS I HEAR CONSISTENTLY ACROSS THE BOARD FROM ALMOST EVERY AREA OF THE COUNTY.

>> SURE. MARV WEIDNER HERE.

THANK YOU AGAIN FOR THIS PRESENTATION.

IT'S BEEN EXTREMELY INFORMATIVE.

HAVE YOU SEEN AN INCREASE IN SOME INDICATORS OF A GROWTH IN DEMAND LIKE CALLS FOR SERVICE OVER TIME?

>> THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION. I'VE NOT SEEN AN INCREASE IN CALLS FOR SERVICE WHICH HAS BEEN NICE.

I THINK A LOT OF THAT IS THE PREVENTATIVE NATURE.

WHEN WE GOT BACK UP TO STAFFING, AND THE DEPUTIES ARE ABLE TO BE MUCH MORE PROACTIVE BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT SPENDING ALL THEIR TIME AT THE CALLS FOR SERVICE.

THAT HAS RESULTED IN FEWER PROBLEMS. FEWER CRIMES, THINGS LIKE THAT AND WE HAVE, THROUGH AGGRESSIVE ENFORCEMENT AND FUNDING FROM THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS, FROM THE ARIZONA LEGISLATURE, WE'VE CREATED VERY PROACTIVE ENFORCEMENT ACTIVITIES LIKE OUR SPECIAL CRIMES UNIT, WHICH WE SEND OUT INTO COMMUNITIES THAT HAVE PROBLEMS, OR WE'RE HEARING FROM THE CITIZENS OR WE'RE HEARING THAT THEY'RE CONCERNED ABOUT, DRUG HOUSES OR ANY OF THOSE THINGS, AND YOU GET ON TOP OF IT AND THAT REALLY IS HAVING AN IMPACT ON PUBLIC SAFETY IN THE COUNTY.

>> THANK YOU, CHAIR. LET ME JOIN WITH THE OTHERS.

THANK YOU FOR THIS.

AGAIN, I THINK IS ONE OF THE TWO OVER HEARST, NOT NEW NEWS, BUT GOOD TO HEAR IT AGAIN DIRECTLY FROM YOU AND ALL HEARING IT AT THE SAME TIME.

I THINK THAT'S VERY HELPFUL AS WE TALK ABOUT SETTING DIRECTION HERE.

JUST A COUPLE OF OBSERVATIONS.

MOST SHERIFF OF WHAT I HEARD YOU TALK ABOUT REALLY FALLS INTO THE BOARD'S DIRECTION ON INFRASTRUCTURE, YOUR CAPITAL NEEDS.

YOU ALSO SAID SOMETHING THAT CAUGHT MY ATTENTION.

THE IMPACT THAT THE BOARD'S DIRECTION OVER THE LAST SEVERAL YEARS REGARDING RECRUITMENT AND RETENTION, CONSISTENT COMPENSATION STRATEGY HAS.

YOU ALSO NOTED THE NEED FOR AT LEAST INCREMENTAL GROWTH IN YOUR STAFF AND MY RECOLLECTION, THE BOARD HAS BEEN DOING THAT.

WE'VE BEEN INCREMENTALLY TO ADDRESS THAT AND BELIEVE THAT WE NEED TO CONTINUE THAT STRATEGY.

WE DON'T HAVE THAT THAT COMPENSATION THAT WE'VE GOT TO CONTINUE TO BE ABLE TO DO, AS YOU SUGGESTED THERE, WHICH LEADS ME INTO THE FINANCING PIECE THAT I DON'T SEE THAT WE'VE ADDRESSED ANYWHERE HERE YET.

I THINK WE NEED TO CAREFULLY CONSIDER OUR FIVE GOALS, AND LET ME BE CLEAR.

I THINK PUBLIC SAFETY NEEDS TO REMAIN.

WE'VE GOT TO THREAD THAT NEEDLE, SO WE COVER IT UNDER INFRASTRUCTURE, BUT THEN WE DON'T HAVE A GOOD PLACE TO CAPTURE THE FINANCING NEEDS, THE COMPENSATION PIECE.

WHICH FOR ME GOES BACK TO SORRY TO REVISIT HERE, BUT BACK TO THAT GOOD GOVERNANCE PIECE.

I'M WONDERING WHETHER WE NEED TO FIND A WAY TO INCLUDE THAT SOMEHOW TO MAKE SURE WE'VE GOT THE PLACE TO CALL OUT THE PIECE TO ACCOMPLISH WHAT YOU'VE MENTIONED HERE.

>> THAT'S A GOOD POINT, AND I CAN COVER A LITTLE BIT ABOUT HOW THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE IS FINANCED.

I WANT TO SAY ABOUT 75 MILLION A YEAR IS THE ENTIRE BUDGET FOR THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE.

IT'S ABOUT 32 FOR THE LAW ENFORCEMENT SIDE AND ABOUT 34 MILLION FOR THE DETENTION SIDE THAT IS COMING FROM EITHER THE COUNTY'S GENERAL FUND, WHICH IS CAPITAL OR WHICH IS PROPERTY TAXES, OR THE JAIL DISTRICT SALES TAX AND THE REST IS COMING FROM SPECIAL REVENUES THAT THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE RECEIVES, EITHER FROM THE ARIZONA LEGISLATURE, SOME GRANTS OR DIFFERENT THINGS THAT COME IN, AND WE USE THOSE SPECIAL REVENUES TO OFFSET THE OPERATIONAL COSTS OF THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE SO THAT THE ASK TO THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS ISN'T AS HIGH.

DRILLING INTO THAT THE AREA THAT I THINK IS BEARS THE MOST DISCUSSION IS THE JAIL DISTRICT SALES TAX.

THE JAIL DISTRICT SALES TAX, THE LAW THAT ALLOWED FOR THE CREATION OF JAIL DISTRICTS IN THE COUNTY WAS PASSED IN 1999, AND IT ALLOWED FOR TWO DIFFERENT FUNDING MODELS.

ONE WAS A SECONDARY PROPERTY TAX, WHICH NOBODY WANTED AND THE OTHER WAS UP TO A HALF A CENT SALES TAX.

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BOTH HAVE TO BE APPROVED BY THE VOTERS.

>> THE HALF A CENT SALES TAX WAS PASSED AT A QUARTER C IN THE YEAR 2000, AND THE BOARD OVER THE YEARS RECOGNIZED THE ERROR THAT WAS MADE THERE AND ATTEMPTED TO GET IT INCREASED TO A HALF CENT A COUPLE OF TIMES, AND IT NARROWLY FAILED BECAUSE OF SOME OPPOSITION THAT WAS OUT IN THE COMMUNITY JUST IN GENERAL.

BUT THE BOTTOM LINE IS, NOW THAT IS GENERATING ABOUT $17,000,000 A YEAR, ONE QUARTER OF A CENT SALES TAX COUNTY WIDE, GENERATING ABOUT $17,000,000 A YEAR, AND THE JAIL DISTRICT BUDGET IS ABOUT 34.

IF IT WERE INCREASED TO A HALF A CENT, THAT WOULD GENERATE ANOTHER $17,000,000 A YEAR.

NOW, THAT 17 MILLION IS COMING FROM THE COUNTY'S GENERAL FUND PROPERTY TAXES, THAT $17,000,000 SHORTFALL IS COMING FROM PROPERTY TAXES IN THE COUNTY'S GENERAL FUND AND BECAUSE IT'S A DISTRICT, THE MUNICIPALITIES DO NOT PAY TO USE THE JAIL.

THEY ALLOW FOR THE COLLECTION OF TAXES INSIDE THEIR MUNICIPALITIES IN EXCHANGE FOR FREE USE OF THE JAIL, THE COUNTY HAS TO PAY WHAT'S CALLED A MAINTENANCE OF EFFORT TO MAKE SURE THAT THE COUNTY HAS SOME FINANCIAL RESPONSIBILITY TO THE JAIL.

BUT YOU HAVE $17,000,000 THERE THAT IS COMING FROM PROPERTY TAX MONEY, NOT COMING FROM SALES TAX, WHICH IS A HUGE AMOUNT OF THAT IS YOUR TOURISM AND IF THE BOARD EVER WANTED TO CONSIDER WAYS TO BALANCE AND EQUALIZE PUBLIC SAFETY REVENUES VERSUS COSTS, THAT WOULD BE ONE PLACE TO LOOK.

>> WHEN THAT WAS PASSED, THERE WAS A SINGLE JAIL AND THAT QUARTER CENT PROBABLY COVERED THAT.

>> THE QUARTER CENT DID COVER IT UP UNTIL ABOUT 78 YEARS AGO, AND THEN THE COUNTY HAD TO START TRANSFERRING MONEY FROM THE GENERAL FUND, BUT YOU GOT TO REMEMBER, WHEN IT WAS PASSED, THE DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE WAS HERE, AND THEY WERE DOING A CIVIL RIGHTS INVESTIGATION AGAINST YAVAPAI COUNTY AND YAVAPAI COUNTY SHERIFF'S OFFICE FOR ALL OF THE CIVIL RIGHTS VIOLATIONS THAT WERE OCCURRING IN THE JAIL, WHICH WAS DUE TO OVERCROWDING.

THE OVERCROWDING WAS A RESULT OF LACK OF FUNDING.

WE'RE NOT IN THAT SITUATION TODAY, OBVIOUSLY, WE'RE NOT OVERCROWDED.

WE DON'T HAVE A LACK OF FUNDING.

BUT IT'S THE CONVERSATION IS, WHERE DO YOU WANT THAT REVENUE TO COME FROM? WHAT DO YOU WANT TO ACTUALLY USE $17,000,000 IN PROPERTY TAX MONEY ON? HOW DO YOU WANT TO DO THAT? WHAT'S THE VISION OF THE BOARD FOR FUNDING IT? BECAUSE REALLY IT'S NOT A SHERIFF'S DECISION.

I COME TO YOU AND I PRESENT OPTIONS IN A BUDGET AND SOME OPERATIONAL COSTS, AND WE NEGOTIATE AND WE LAND AT BUT THEN WHEN IT'S WHEN YOU HAVE TO DETERMINE WHERE THAT MONEY IS GOING TO COME FROM, THAT'S A BOARD DECISION.

>> I THINK WE'RE BUILDING NOW FOR OUR FUTURE, WHERE I THINK IN THE PAST.

I THINK THE NEW JAIL IS BUILT WHERE YOU GOT SOME CAPACITY, WE GOT SOME TIME TO GO ON AND I THINK WHEN WE LOOK AT THESE OTHER NEW FACILITIES IN THE OUTLYING AREA, WE NEED TO KEEP THE SAME MINDSET THAT WE BUILD THEM TO CAPACITY PAST OUR TERMS AND LOOK TO 20 YEARS DOWN THE ROAD.

IF THEY'RE OPEN AND EMPTY, IT DOESN'T MATTER.

WE'LL FILL IT UP OVER THE NEXT 20 YEARS.

>> I THINK THERE'S A BALANCE THERE.

YOU DON'T WANT TO COLLECT MORE TAX MONEY THAT'S NEEDED TO BUILD THINGS THAT AREN'T NEEDED FOR A PERIOD OF TIME.

I THINK THAT FALLS UNDER WHAT? MAURY IS REFERRING TO AS GOOD GOVERNANCE, AS ESTABLISHING WHAT'S NEEDED IN THE NEAR TERM, SHORT TERM, AND THEN LONG TERM AND DECIDE WHAT YOU CAN AFFORD NOW AND BUILD THAT.

I THINK THESE 3,000 SQUARE FOOT SUBSTATIONS IN THE RURAL PARTS OF THE COUNTY, I THINK ARE A VERY GOOD MODEL THAT WE CAN GET DONE FOR RELATIVELY INEXPENSIVE AND THEY WILL LAST FOR A VERY LONG TIME.

>> YOU'RE NOT GIVING YOURSELF ENOUGH CREDIT FOR THE DIVERSION PROGRAMS, THE RECIDIVISM PROGRAMS, BECAUSE IF YOU DON'T HAVE TO HAVE PEOPLE IN JAIL, YOU DON'T NEED A BIGGER JAIL.

>> THANK YOU FOR THAT. AGAIN,

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THE BOARD, THE LEGISLATURE, THE EMPLOYEES, THE STAFF IT'S BEEN A COMPLETE CULTURAL SHIFT TO TRY TO REDUCE RECIDIVISM, AND WE'VE BEEN SUCCESSFUL AND THE JAIL POPULATION, WHICH IS DRIVEN BY LENGTH OF STAY IF YOU DON'T MANAGE THAT, THEN YOU JUST KEEP INCARCATING.

I WOULD COMMEND MAURY FOR THE SPEARHEADING, THE CRIMINAL JUSTICE COORDINATING COUNSEL, WHICH WE NOW HAVE A COORDINATOR THAT'S THERE, AND YOU WERE AT THE MEETING.

I APPRECIATE YOU FOR BEING THERE, CHRIS.

BUT THAT COUNCIL IS REALLY THE MANAGEMENT BODY THAT KEEPS THE SYSTEM MOVING AS EFFICIENTLY AS POSSIBLE.

>> JUST A QUESTION. SUPERVISOR KUGNEO, REFERENCE BUILDING ANOTHER JAIL BECAUSE WE DO SUCH A GOOD PROGRAM WITH WHAT YOU'RE WORKING AT.

BUT RIGHT NOW WE ARE STILL TAKING APPROXIMATELY $14,000,000 OUT OF THE GENERAL FUND TO MAINTAIN WHAT WE HAVE AND THAT $14,000,000 ACTUALLY CAN GO BACK TO THE COMMUNITY IN THE BUILDINGS THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT RIGHT NOW.

BACK IN 2014 WHEN THE ITEM WAS ON THE BALLOT, IT WAS STATED THAT THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS WOULD HAVE TO BUILD A CRIMINAL JUSTICE CENTER AND HOW DID THE COMMUNITY WANT TO PAY FOR IT.

WANTED TO THE BEST WAY WOULD BE THE JAIL TAX.

WELL, THE BOARD WAS VERY CLEAR AT THAT TIME, IN THE BALLOT LANGUAGE, IF THE JAIL TAX GETS VOTED DOWN, THEN IT WILL BE A RAISE IN THE PROPERTY TAX AND THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT HAD TO BE BECAUSE OF THE FEDERAL REQUIREMENTS.

THIS SITUATION WILL SOMEDAY HAVE TO BE LOOKED AT SOONER THAN LATER ON THIS JAIL TAX SO THAT THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS AND THE COUNTY CAN GET BACK THE 14 PLUS MILLION DOLLAR SO THAT THEY CAN MAINTAIN THE OTHER PARTS OF THE GOVERNMENT THAT THIS BOARD WILL OVERSEE.

>> CHARITY I WAS NOT REALLY CLEAR.

I WAS REFERENCING THE FACT THAT I THINK WE GOT TO NOT FALL INTO THIS TRAP AS WE DO THIS CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROGRAMS WHERE WE CAN BUILD IT, BUT WE ALSO NEED TO FUND OPERATIONS.

WE BUILT A NEW JAIL.

DID WE HAVE A MECHANISM IN THERE TO PAY FOR THIS NEW JAIL? DOESN'T SOUND LIKE WE DID.

IT SOUNDS LIKE WE'RE RUNNING BEHIND.

AS WE BUILD THESE OUTLYING AREAS, YOU NOT ONLY GOT TO BUILD THE STRUCTURE, BUT YOU GOT TO BUILD IN THE PEOPLE, THE ONGOING EXPENSES, THE ELECTRICITY, EVERYTHING ELSE.

I APOLOGIZE IF I WASN'T CLEAR.

>> WELL, THANK YOU FOR YOUR COMMENTS, SUPERVISOR MALLORY, CHAIR MALLORY. YOU'RE RIGHT.

IN 2014, WHILE THE NEED TO BUILD A FACILITY IN PRESCOTT WAS IDENTIFIED IN THE CONSULTANTS REPORT AND BY THE DOJ ALL THE WAY BACK IN 2001 AND THE COUNTY HAD BEEN TRYING TO GET TO THAT EVER SINCE THEN.

TO THE PILLAR OF GOOD GOVERNANCE, WE ENDED UP BUILDING 480 BEDS IN THE VERDI VALLEY AND 154 BEDS IN PRESCOTT, AND IT NEEDED TO BE REVERSED AND BECAUSE THE COUNTY GOT THEMSELVES IN A SITUATION WHERE THEY DIDN'T HAVE THE SPACE THAT WAS NEEDED, AND THEY NEEDED SPACE IMMEDIATELY OR THEY WERE GOING TO BE UNDER A CONSENT DECREE.

THEY BUILT WHERE THEY COULD BUILD QUICKLY, AND THAT WAS DIVERTE VALLEY.

WE SPENT $2,000,000 A YEAR FOR 20 YEARS TRANSPORTING PEOPLE BACK AND FORTH HERE TO COURT BECAUSE YOU HAVE 65% OF THE JUDICIAL ACTIVITIES, INITIATION OF JUDICIAL PROCESS ON THE CRIMINAL SIDE WAS OCCURRING, HERE IN THE PRESCOTT AREA AND 35% IN THE VERDI VALLEY.

THE MORE EQUITABLE SOLUTION WOULD HAVE BEEN TO DO THAT.

BUT THEY HAD TO MOVE QUICKLY BECAUSE THEY DIDN'T PLAN FOR THE FUTURE AND THEY DIDN'T HAVE THE THINGS THAT THEY NEEDED FOR THE FUTURE AT THAT TIME.

YOUR POINT, SUPERVISOR MALLORY IS EXACTLY CORRECT.

WE STILL TRYING TO GET THAT JAIL BUILT 2014 WAS PUT TO THE VOTERS.

THE JAIL WOULD BE BUILT HERE IN PRESCOTT, AND IT WOULD EITHER BE FUNDED WITH PROPERTY TAX OR THE QUARTER CENT INCREASE TO THE JAIL DISTRICT SALES TAX.

THE BOARD KEPT THEIR PROMISE AND THEY FUNDED IT AT THE WILL OF THE VOTERS,

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WHICH WAS THE PROPERTY TAX AND BUILT IT AND SO HERE WE ARE AND NOW THE VOTERS REALLY, I THINK PROBABLY NEED AN OPPORTUNITY TO REVISIT THAT.

>> CAN I ASK A QUESTION? I ALWAYS ENJOY LISTENING TO YOU BECAUSE YOU GIVE A LOT OF FACTS AND FIGURES THAT I RELATE TO.

IT'S ALWAYS GOOD TO HEAR YOU TALK AND TO GIVE AN OVERVIEW OF THE ENTIRE COUNTY AND HOW IT ALL FITS TOGETHER WITH LAW ENFORCEMENT AND THE JAIL SYSTEM SO THANK YOU FOR THAT.

WHAT I'M HEARING WITH THE PUBLIC SAFETY ISSUE, THERE'S THIS PIECE THAT'S FINANCIAL.

I THINK I'M HEARING PEOPLE SAY THAT WE MIGHT WANT TO FIGURE OUT HOW THAT IS THE GOAL, PERHAPS.

BUT DOES THAT FINANCIAL PIECE FIT IN PUBLIC SAFETY OR DOES IT FIT SOMEPLACE ELSE IN ONE OF THE OTHER CATEGORIES? I DON'T KNOW WHERE WE'RE GOING WITH THIS.

I'M JUST OPENING UP THE DOOR TO UNDERSTAND WHERE WE'RE GOING.

>> THANK YOU. BEFORE I DIRECTLY ANSWER THAT QUESTION, LET ME GO BACK AND MAKE A COMMENT.

THANK YOU FOR THOSE LAST COMMENTS. VERY HELPFUL.

SUPERVISOR KUGNEO, ON YOUR POINT WELL TAKEN, AND THAT'S A STAFF ARE WORKING ON DEVELOPING OUR REAL TRUE FIRST EVER CIP PLAN.

IT IS LOOKING AT THE FULL COST, WHICH INCLUDES IF YOU'RE BUILDING THE BUILDING, YOU'VE GOT TO REALIZE IT TAKES STAFF IN THAT BUILDING AND ONGOING OPERATIONAL COSTS SO CHANGING THE MODEL HERE THAT THOSE ARE ALL BUILT IN.

FINALLY, CHA TO YOUR COMMENT ABOUT SOONER RATHER THAN LATER, IN MY OPINION, IT'S GOT TO BE SOONER BECAUSE IF YOU LOOK AT THE THINGS THAT WE'VE ALL LAID OUT ON THESE FIRST THREE SHEETS OF INFRASTRUCTURE, WE CAN'T AFFORD TO DO THAT UNLESS THIS ISSUE IS ADDRESSED.

$18,000,000 COMING OUT OF THE GENERAL FUND AND GROWING EVERY YEAR IS EATING OUR LUNCH.

IS NO CAPACITY TO DO THAT.

WHEN YOU COUPLE ON WHAT THE SHERIFF TALKED ABOUT CONTINUING TO FUND APPROPRIATELY OUR STAFF SO WE HAVE STAFF IN THE POSITIONS AND KEEP THEM FILLED, AND YOU ADDRESS OUR STRUCTURAL BUDGET ISSUES THE PIECES DON'T FIT TOGETHER UNLESS WE STEP BACK AND ADDRESS THIS.

FINALLY, TO YOUR QUESTION, YES, I AM SUGGESTING I THINK WE NEED A GOOD GOVERNANCE PIECE.

AGAIN, A LOT OF WHAT WE'VE HEARD THE SHERIFF TALK ABOUT FALLS INTO INFRASTRUCTURE NUT IT'S ALSO THEN THAT FINANCING PIECE FOR STAFF AND IN THE JAIL DISTRICT.

I THINK PUBLIC SAFETY ALSO NEEDS TO REMAIN AS ONE OF THE 52 SO THAT LEAVES SOME MASS TO FIGURE OUT IF THE BOARD'S INTERESTED IN THAT GOOD GOVERNANCE PIECE, WE'VE GOT TO MAKE SOME CHANGE THERE.

>> TO SUPERVISOR JENKINS POINT, I SEE IT AS A GOAL, THE FUNDING, ONE OF THE GOALS THAT WE'RE SETTING UP.

I'M NOT SURE IF IT'S UNDER GOOD GOVERNANCE OR PUBLIC SAFETY, BUT CLEARLY WE CANNOT CONTINUE TO GO DOWN THE ROAD ANY FURTHER WITH $18,000,000 COMING OUT OF THE GENERAL FUND EVERY YEAR.

IT'S JUST NOT SUSTAINABLE.

IT'S SOMETHING WHILE WE DIDN'T INITIATE IT, IT'S ON OUR PLATE. WE NEED TO DEAL WITH IT.

>> MY TAKE ON HOW FINANCE FITS INTO THESE CATEGORIES.

IF YOU'RE LOOKING AT RESULTS, MANAGING RESULTS, GREAT NAME.

FINANCE IS NEVER REALLY A RESULT, IT'S AN ACTION THAT YOU TAKE TO ACHIEVE A RESULT AND SO EACH ONE OF THESE STRATEGIC PRIORITIES HAVE A COMMON THREAD AND THAT THEY NEED FINANCING BEHIND THEM.

BUT I WOULDN'T SEE THAT IT WOULD TAKE THAT THAT REALLY IS AN INSPIRING STRATEGIC PRIORITY.

IT'S MORE THE BACK OF THE HOUSE STUFF.

BUT I AGREE WITH SUPERVISOR ASTER COMPTON, THAT WE DO NEED TO HAVE SPECIFIC GOALS LAID OUT SO THAT WE DON'T JUST END UP WITH THE OVERALL QUESTION OF JUST NEEDING MONEY AND NOT KNOWING HOW TO GET MORE.

I THINK I WOULD SUGGEST THAT SIGNIFICANT PORTION OF OUR GOALS THAT WE DEVELOP BE SPECIFIC AROUND FINANCE.

>> MAURY, CAN I SAY SOMETHING REAL QUICK?

>> I'VE BEEN LISTENING TO THE CONVERSATION, AND IT'S BEEN SPOT ON IN TERMS OF WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT, YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE THINGS I TAKE FROM IT, NOT KNOWING ALL THE DETAILS IS THE FACT THAT YOU'VE GOT THIS PORTION OF MONEY COMING OUT OF THE GENERAL FUND AND THE OPPORTUNITY COST OF THAT MONEY IN REGARDS TO WHEREVER YOU WANT TO SPEND IT, BUT THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY COST.

SPECIFICALLY ON THE OPERATIONAL SIDE, YOU HAVE A NUMBER OF DEPARTMENTS WHO COULD POSSIBLY USE THAT MONEY IN THE FACE OF INCREASING DEMAND TO DELIVER THEIR OWN SERVICES.

WHAT I HEARD YOU SAYING IN THE WAY WE DEVELOPED OUR GOALS YESTERDAY,

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I WAS JUST SITTING THERE WRITING BECAUSE IT'S MY JOB TO TAKE NOTES AND I SAID, SO THAT THE COUNTY IS POSITIONED TO DELIVER QUALITY SERVICES IN THE FACE OF INCREASED DEMAND, BECAUSE YOU ARE GROWING ACROSS ALL YOUR DEPARTMENTS.

BY 20XX, A DEDICATED FUNDING STREAM WILL BE DEVELOPED TO FULLY FUND THE JAIL DISTRICT.

BECAUSE THE IDEA THERE IS, IF YOU DON'T FULLY FUND THAT JAIL DISTRICT, HOWEVER THE STRATEGIES YOU GO ABOUT DOING IT, IT'S NOT PREDETERMINING WHAT YOU'RE GOING TO DO, YOU'RE PULLING MONEY OUT OF THE GENERAL FUND THAT COULD BE USED ELSEWHERE AND THAT'S ALL THAT SAYS. YES, MA'AM.

>> I JUST WAS GOING TO SAY, I CAUGHT THE WORD DEDICATED AND OF COURSE, WE HAVE TO TAKE IT TO THE VOTERS?

>> YOU DO. YES, MA'AM.

>> WE HAVE TO GET A PACK, A GROUP THAT'S GOING TO MOVE THIS THROUGH.

A LOT OF ADVERTISEMENT AND THINGS LIKE THAT GO ON AND AGAIN, YOU TAKE IT TO THE VOTERS.

THE VOTERS WILL DECIDE, WHAT DO I WANT TO SAY? WE WILL MOVE FORWARD TO TRY TO MAKE THIS DEDICATED AMOUNT OF MONEY HAPPEN.

BUT AGAIN, WE CAN WORK SUPER HARD AT IT.

BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY, THE VOTES WILL COME IN.

I JUST DON'T WANT TO SAY WE'RE GOING TO GET A DEDICATED SOURCE IF THE VOTERS.

>> WELL, YOU CAN TAKE OUT THE WORD DEDICATED, BUT MADAM CHAIR, WHAT, ONE THING TO THINK ABOUT IS YOU GUYS DON'T CONTROL ANYTHING THAT YOU DO.

THERE'S AN ARGUMENT TO BE MADE THAT WE DON'T CONTROL OURSELVES HALF THE TIME.

YOU INFLUENCE THESE THINGS. YOU'RE RIGHT.

YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO TAKE THIS TO THE BOAT VOTERS, AND YOU'RE PROBABLY GOING TO HAVE TO MAKE THE CASE AS TO WHY THIS IS IMPORTANT.

CURRENTLY, YOU'RE PULLING $17,000,000 ROUGHLY OUT OF YOUR GENERAL FUND THAT COULD GO TO MAYBE BUILDINGS.

IT COULD GO TO OTHER DEPARTMENTS WHOSE DEMAND IS INCREASING AND SO THE IDEA IS, YOU HAVE TO MAKE THAT CASE.

NOW, DO YOU CONTROL IT? ABSOLUTELY NOT.

BUT IF IT'S IMPORTANT ENOUGH, THE QUESTION IS, ARE YOU WILLING TO SAY, WE NEED TO TRY TO DO THAT? THAT'S THE QUESTION.

>> IF I MAY ADDRESS THE OPPORTUNITY COST FOR THAT 1718 AND GROWING, ONE STRUCTURAL BALANCE BUDGET HERE.

TWO WOULD BE OUR CAPITAL NEEDS.

THREE, YOU'VE ALL TALKED ABOUT WANTING TO SHIFT OUR EXCISE TAX BACK TO MORE DEDICATED TO ROADS.

WE'VE GOT TO HAVE THAT CAPACITY.

WE'VE GOT THE COMPENSATION ISSUES THAT THE SHERIFF MENTIONED, AND FINALLY, JUST GENERAL GROWTH IN THE COUNTY SO THERE'S A LONG LIST OF NEEDS, OPPORTUNITY COSTS FOR THAT 17 18 AND GROWING.

THEN BACK TO YOUR COMMENT, SUPERVISOR CHECK ABOUT GOOD GOVERNANCE POINT WELL TAKEN, I WANT TO BE CLEAR THAT THIS WAS JUST ONE PIECE, I THINK WE CAN FIT UNDER GOOD GOVERNANCE, THOUGH I THINK THERE'S OTHER THINGS THAT YOU MIGHT WANT TO INCLUDE THERE.

>> MADAM CHAIR, I WOULD JUST SAY FROM A PUBLIC SAFETY STANDPOINT, EFFORTS TO INCREASE ROAD SAFETY OR THE NUMBER OF ROADS OR WIDENING AND ROAD PROJECTS, I WOULD BE MAJORLY IN SUPPORT OF THAT, AND I KNOW THAT THE COMMUNITY WOULD AS WELL, EFFORTS TO CREATE OTHER ARTERIES OR BYPASSES OR WIDENING, ALL OF THAT IS NEEDED TO BE CONSIDERED.

THAT TAKES A LONG TIME TO GET THOSE THINGS DESIGNED AND FUNDED AND UP TO GOING, BUT THE SOONER YOU START THE BETTER.

>> I THINK THE OUTLYING AREAS NEED TO COME FIRST?

>> I THINK SOME OF THE STUFF THEY'RE SO FAR BEHIND.

IT'S WHAT YOUR GUYS ARE HAVING TO DEAL WITH UP IN ASH FORK AND SELIGMAN, WORK IN A SINGLE WIDE MOBILE HOME THAT'S FALLEN IN THE GROUND.

NO ABILITY TO WASH THEIR VEHICLES.

I THINK WE NEED TO GET THOSE DONE FIRST AND GET THEM OUT OF THE WAY.

EVERYBODY'S GOT IT EXCEPT, I THINK, MAYBE CHAIRS DISTRICT MIGHT BE A NEED TO SOMETHING.

WHEN YOU COME TO SOME OF THE OUTLYING AREAS, I KEEPS TALKING ABOUT THIS, BUT I THINK WE NEED TO BUILD FOR THE COURTS.

WE NEED A PLACE FOR THE CONSTABLES, AND WE NEED A PLACE FOR ADULT PROBATION BECAUSE EVEN THE DEPUTIES WERE SAYING, WHEN ADULT PROBATION COMES UP HERE AND MEETS WITH PEOPLE, THEY'RE BRINGING PEOPLE IN AND THEY'RE SEEING EVERYTHING WE GOT WRITTEN ON THE BOARDS.

THEY SEE ALL OF OUR PLANS.

I THINK THOSE OUTLYING AREAS NEED TO COME FIRST AND NEEDS TO BE ALL ENCOMPASSING WITH THESE OTHER SERVICES THAT NEED TO BE PROVIDED IN THE OUTLYING AREAS THAT ARE 20, 30, 40 YEARS BEHIND.

>> WELL, IN THE OUTLYING AREAS, THOSE SMALLER BUILDINGS, THEY CAN MOVE MUCH MORE QUICKLY.

THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE HEADQUARTERS WILL TAKE A LITTLE BIT OF TIME TO ENGINEER DESIGN, AND GET GOING ON, BUT THOSE OUTLYING AREAS,

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I THINK YOU COULD MOVE A LOT MORE QUICKLY.

>> THEY TALKED ABOUT SELIGMAN.

>> SELIGMAN ONLY HAS A POPULATION.

ASH FORK ONLY HAS A POPULATION, BUT THESE GUYS TAKE IN I_40.

THERE'S SOME OF YOUR OTHER DISTRICTS THAT TAKE IN I_17.

MAJOR DRUG CORRIDORS, MAJOR ACCIDENT AVENUES, AND WE HAVE THESE GUYS GETTING PRETTY TIRED RESPONDING OUT THERE WITH BOTH POLICE AND FIRE.

>> I WOULD JUST CONCUR WITH SUPERVISOR KUKNL THAT THE OUTLYING AREAS NEED TO COME FIRST. WE NEED THEM NOW.

I DON'T WANT TO GO INTO SPECIFICS IN MY DISTRICT, BUT THE NEED IS EXTENSIVE IN TERMS OF COVERAGE AND THE ABILITY AND WHO I MEAN, IT'S EXTENSIVE.

IF YOU FLY OVER, COINCIDENTALLY, WHAT THE SHERIFF WAS TALKING ABOUT IT.

THERE'S A LOT MORE PEOPLE OUT THERE THAN YOU REALIZE, ESPECIALLY IN SELIGMAN AREA AND MY AREA.

YOU JUST DON'T HAVE THE IDEA OF HOW MANY PEOPLE ARE OUT THERE.

I MEAN, FOR EXAMPLE, JUST THE WE ALL RURAL GROUP IN MY AREA OUT THERE, THERE'S 1,000 PEOPLE JUST IN THAT ONE GROUP, AND YOU WOULD NEVER KNOW THEY WERE OUT THERE. THE NEED IS THERE.

>> THE TECHNICAL ANGLE OF ALL THIS TOO.

I THINK YOUR GUYS THEIR TESTING RADIOS.

I WOULD NOT LIKE TO BE BY MYSELF AND JUNIPER WOODS RANCH AND NOT HAVE THE ABILITY TO TALK TO OTHER DEPUTIES.

>> THAT IS A PROBLEM IN MY DISTRICT AS WELL.

THE SAFETY OF THE POLICE OFFICERS THEMSELVES.

>> WELL, AND TO YOUR POINT, WE ARE WORKING ON RADIO INFRASTRUCTURE IS A MAJOR PART OF OUR PLAN BECAUSE WE DO NEED INCREASES AND UPGRADES, AND WE DID GET APPROPRIATIONS TO START WORKING ON SOME OF THAT DURING THIS LAST LEGISLATIVE SESSION.

>> ONE OF YOUR GUYS THAT WENT RIGHT ALONG WITH HAD FOUR DIFFERENT RADIOS TESTED THEM, AND ONE OF THEM DIDN'T WORK.

WE'RE USING SOME RADIO THAT DOESN'T WORK THERE IF HE NEEDED BACKUP OR IF HE NEEDED TO CALL IN FIRE OR WHATEVER. HE COULDN'T TALK TO ANYBODY.

>> I'D LIKE TO ASK A QUESTION.

KNOWING THAT PUBLIC SAFETY IS GOING TO BE A PRIORITY AREA? KNOWING THAT OVER IN INFRASTRUCTURE, WE'VE REALLY ADDRESSED THE BUILDINGS ISSUE BOTH IN THE RURAL AREAS AND WITHIN PRESCOTT.

BEFORE WE CAN REALLY MOVE ON TO THE ISSUE OF GOOD GOVERNANCE, AND WE SEE THAT BEING VERY, VERY USEFUL IN LITERALLY EVERY JURISDICTION WHERE WE WORK, BECAUSE THERE'S REALLY IMPORTANT THINGS THAT YOU DO HAVE TO TAKE CARE OF LIKE FINANCING.

IS THERE ANOTHER GOAL THAT WE CAN WRITE ABOUT PUBLIC SAFETY THAT'S NOT NECESSARILY RELATED TO THE FUNDING STREAM? BECAUSE THE FUNDING STREAM COULD GO INTO THAT GOOD GOVERNANCE IF YOU WANTED TO.

IS THERE ANOTHER RESULT THAT YOU'D LIKE TO SEE THE COMMUNITY EXPERIENCE IN PUBLIC SAFETY? WE HAVE SOMETHING OVER HERE, SHERIFF.

I'M NOT SURE YOU SAW IT; IS AN EFFORT TO IMPROVE THE COMMUTING EXPERIENCE.

IS THERE A PUBLIC SAFETY GOAL THAT YOU ALL ARE THINKING OF?

>> PERSONALLY I ECHO THE SHERIFFS.

A LOT OF THOSE COMPLAINTS COME IN, AND THERE'S A LOT OF WORRY ABOUT FIRE AND EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT AND ABSOLUTELY ECHO THE CONCERNS OF VICE CHAIR COMPTON AND SUPERVISOR CUCINO REGARDING COMMUNICATIONS.

I MEAN, THOSE TWO THINGS ARE REALLY IMPORTANT TO OUR CONSTITUENTS.

I THINK WE COULD DEFINITELY CRAFT A GOAL AROUND THAT.

>> SUPERVISOR CHECK, WHEN YOU SAY COMMUNICATIONS, DO YOU MEAN 911 COMMUNITIES?

>> YES. YEAH. REGIONAL EMERGENCY COMMUNITIES.

SOME WORDS TO DESCRIBE IT, BUT.

>> SORRY, SUPERVISOR. SORRY. I THOUGHT YOU WERE DONE.

YOU BROUGHT BOTH OF THOSE UP, EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT AND 911 DISPATCHING COMMUNICATIONS.

DO YOU WANT TO DEVELOP A GOAL THAT SPEAKS TO ADDRESSING THOSE TWO THINGS OVER THE NEXT FEW YEARS? I MEAN, WE'RE NOT SETTING TIME FRAMES HERE TODAY.

NO, MORE IN THE TEAM WILL BRING THOSE BACK TO YOU.

>> I THINK THE GOAL IS REGIONAL COMMUNICATION.

THAT'S WHAT I BELIEVE THE GOAL SHOULD BE.

THE SHERIFF IS UNIQUELY POSITIONED TO BE THAT PERSON AND TO HOUSE WHATEVER WE'RE DOING.

IT'S COUNTERPRODUCTIVE TO HAVE ANYBODY ELSE DO IT.

FOR MY VIEW, THAT'S WHERE IT SHOULD GO AND THAT SHOULD BE A GOAL.

THAT REGIONAL COMMUNICATION. IT'S PUBLIC SAFETY.

NOTHING WORKS WITHOUT PUBLIC SAFETY.

PEOPLE ARE CALLING 911.

THEY CAN'T GET THROUGH. NOTHING GETS HAPPENED.

SUPERVISOR CUCINO IS TALKING ABOUT DIFFERENT RADIO IS NOT WORKING.

COMMUNICATION, PUBLIC SAFETY REGIONAL.

IT HAS TO BE REGIONAL. THAT'S SOMETHING THAT I MEAN, IT'S IMPERATIVE NOW.

>> IN SOMETHING MORE SPECIFIC, I THINK, SHERIFF, DIDN'T YOU TELL ME THAT 52% OF THE CALLS THAT COME IN GET TRANSFERRED? I MEAN, THAT'S A REAL TANGIBLE MEASURE POINT THAT WE COULD CRAFT A GOAL AROUND.

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>> I MEAN, THAT'S THE DIFFICULTY THAT WE DEAL WITH HERE IN YAVAPAI COUNTY.

YOU HAVE FIVE PEACE APPS, WHICH ARE YOUR PRIMARY PUBLIC SAFETY ANSWERING POINTS.

THEY ARE DETERMINED WHERE THAT CALL IS RINGS IS DETERMINED BY THE GEO LOCATION PRIMARILY ON YOUR CELL PHONE.

WELL, THE GEO LOCATION, PARTICULARLY IN THE RURAL AREAS, DOESN'T ALWAYS ROUTE THE CALL TO THE APPROPRIATE PLACE.

EVEN IF IT DOES, THAT PLACE MAY NOT BE MEDICAL WHEN THEY'RE RESPONDING.

WHAT HAPPENS IS PEOPLE CALL 911 AND THEY EXPLAIN WHERE THEY ARE AND WHAT'S GOING ON, AND THEN THE DISPATCHER HAS TO TRANSFER THEM TO ANOTHER PLACE.

NOW, WE'VE HAD CALLS THAT ARE TRANSFERRED UP TO FOUR TIMES TO GET TO MEDICAL.

THAT'S JUST INSANE THAT THAT'S HAPPENING.

THIS REQUIRES THE OTHER GOVERNMENTS TO PARTICIPATE IN REGIONALIZING AND EVERYBODY TO SORT OF RECOGNIZE THAT THIS IS WHAT'S IMPORTANT.

BUT THAT'S NOT WHAT'S HAPPENING RIGHT NOW.

AT THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE, ROUTINELY, THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE RECEIVES ABOUT 45% OF THE TOTAL 911 CALLS IN THE COUNTY, AND ABOUT 52% OF THOSE CALLS, 53% GET TRANSFERRED TO ANOTHER AGENCY.

THAT JUST DOESN'T MAKE ANY SENSE.

WE NEED TO DO BETTER.

REGIONALLY, WE NEED TO DO BETTER.

>> DO WE WANT TO SAY SOMETHING ABOUT THE COUNTY AND THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE WILL WORK TOGETHER TO CREATE AN INTEGRATED 911 DISPATCH SYSTEM FOR THE ENTIRE COUNTY?

>> YEAH, I THINK THAT THERE WERE SOME STRUGGLES THERE RIGHT NOW, BUT I DON'T THINK IT'S A BAD GOAL.

>> WELL, WHAT I DIDN'T HEAR WAS THE PARTNER COOPERATION.

>> SO ONE OF THE THINGS I SAID IS, IF YOU SAID BY A CERTAIN DATE, TO BE DETERMINED, OBVIOUSLY, WORKING WITH OUR PARTNER MUNICIPALITIES AND ORGANIZATIONS, THE COUNTY WILL WORK TO DEVELOP A REGIONAL APPROACH TO 911 COMMUNICATIONS.

>> YEAH, SOUNDS GOOD.

>> THANK YOU. I THINK WE'LL COOPERATE IN A REGIONAL APPROACH TO THAT BECAUSE WE HAVE TO BRING IN THERE'S SO MANY.

I MEAN, HOW MANY EMERGENCY RESPONDERS DO WE GOT USING 911? I MEAN, IT'S GOT TO BE 50.

>> PARTNERS.

>> EVERYTHING IS FANNED OUT FROM THOSE FIVE PLACES, THOUGH, AND THERE'S TWO PRIMARY.

ONE IS PRESCOTT REGIONAL, AND THE OTHER IS WHITE CSO, AND THEN THE THIRD ONE IS COTTONWOOD.

THE VERDI VALLEY IN PRINCIPLE HAS ALREADY AGREED TO REGIONALIZING OVER THERE.

WE'RE TRYING TO IDENTIFY THE CONSULTANT AND BEGIN THE PROCESS OF HOW THAT CAN BE DONE AND WHERE IT CAN BE DONE.

NO AGREEMENTS EXIST ARE AND PROSECUTED.

FRANKLY, I'M DISAPPOINTED BECAUSE COMMUNICATION I DID SUPPORT THEIR PUBLIC SAFETY SALES TAX THAT THEY ASKED FOR.

THEY SAID THEY NEEDED FOR PUBLIC SAFETY.

BUT I THINK THAT WE ALL SHOULD BE LOOKING TO REDUCE THE BURDEN ON THE TAXPAYERS BY SHARING RESOURCES WHERE IT MAKES SENSE.

YOU GUYS SHARE BACKUP.

I MEAN, YOU KNOW, ESPECIALLY UP IN MY AREA, SOMETIMES YOUR GUYS ARE COOPERATING WITH COCONINO COUNTY, SOMETIMES DPS.

THERE'S ALL THE TIME.

THERE'S ESSENTIALLY NEVER A TIME IF YOU CALL FOR BACKUP THAT IT'S NOT SOMEBODY FROM ANOTHER AGENCY IN THOSE RURAL AREAS, AND THE ARIZONA DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC SAFETY, ARIZONA GAME AND FISH, MOJAVE COUNTY WILL MEET US OUT THERE IN HYDE PARK IN SOME OF THAT AREA, COCONINO COUNTY.

WE GO BACK THEM UP.

I MEAN, COCONINO HAS GOT A HUGE POPULATION NORTH OF ASH FORK.

WE GO OUT THERE WITH THEM.

THAT'S HOW IT SHOULD BE.

EVERYBODY SHOULD BE COOPERATING REGIONALLY TO DELIVER SERVICES TO THE TAXPAYER BECAUSE THE TAXPAYERS DON'T.

THERE'S ONE TAXPAYER AND THEY'RE PAYING ALL THIS MONEY AND THEY'RE EXPECTING TO GET WHAT THEY NEED.

THEY DON'T CARE WHERE IT COMES FROM.

>> A QUESTION.

>> I HOPE IT'S NOT IN THE WEEDS.

I AGREE WITH YOU, THE VERDI VALLEY IS ON BOARD REGIONALLY BECAUSE THEY'RE EXPERIENCING FOUR AND FIVE TIME TRANSFERS OF CALLS, FOUR OR FIVE TIMES WITHIN ONE CALL? SO IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT THAT WE DO GET THIS REGIONAL DISPATCH AND ALSO TALK ABOUT JUST TRYING TO GET DISPATCHERS.

THAT'S AN ONGOING PROBLEM TO STAFF DISPATCH.

WOULD IT BE POSSIBLE IF YOU COULDN'T GET THIS SIDE OF

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THE MOUNTAIN ON BOARD THAT YOU WOULD STILL GO FORWARD WITH THE VERDI VALLEY SIDE?

>> THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION.

>> I WOULD HATE FOR IT TO DIE BECAUSE YOU COULDN'T GET BOTH PARTNERS IS WHERE I'M GOING WITH THE QUESTION.

>> NO, I BELIEVE THAT WE WILL.

THERE'S A COMMITMENT OVER THERE TO DO IT.

IT MAKES SENSE OVER THERE TO DO IT.

LOOK WHEN YOU START TALKING ABOUT REGIONAL PUBLIC SAFETY PROJECTS, THAT BRINGS DOLLARS FROM THE STATE, THAT BRINGS DOLLARS FROM THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT.

IT REDUCES THE BURDEN ON THE LOCAL TAXPAYER, WHICH IS GOOD GOVERNANCE.

>> JUST BE REDUNDANCY ANYWAY BUILT IN.

>> WELL, YEAH, AND YOU DO NEED REDUNDANCY, AND YOU CAN SET THAT UP WITH OTHER COCONINO COUNTY OR WHATNOT.

BUT YOU DO NEED TO BE ABLE TO FLIP THE SWITCH AND HAVE 911 RING IN A SECONDARY PLACE IF YOU HAVE SOMETHING CATASTROPHIC LIKE A MAJOR POWER OUTAGE AND YOUR BACKUP DOESN'T WORK, OR SOMETIMES YOUR BUILDING STRUCK BY LIGHTNING, YOUR INFRASTRUCTURE GOES DOWN OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

I MEAN, THIS IS WHY YOU DON'T BUILD ONE OF THESE IN THE FOREST, BUT IF YOU HAD TO EVACUATE THE BUILDING FOR SOME REASON, YOU NEED 911 CAN NEVER GO DOWN EVER.

THAT IS ONE OF THE BEDROCKS OF PUBLIC SAFETY.

PEOPLE EXPECT TO GET SOMEBODY ON 911 TO COME HELP THEM IN THEIR TIME OF CRISIS.

THAT'S WHAT THEY'RE PAYING FOR.

>> WITH THAT BEING SAID, DO YOU THINK WE'VE KIND OF GOT A GOOD IDEA OF WHERE THIS GOES? EVERYONE? WE'RE OKAY. ALL RIGHT.

SO WE APPRECIATE YOU SO MUCH. SHERIFF.

>> THANK YOU. CHAIR, MEMBERS OF THE BOARD FOR HAVING ME HERE TODAY AND FOR THE CONVERSATION.

I THINK THE PUBLIC CONVERSATION ABOUT PUBLIC SAFETY IS VERY, VERY IMPORTANT? YOU HAVE, AND WE HAVE INCREDIBLE COMMUNITY SUPPORT BY AND LARGE FOR THE THINGS THAT WE'RE DOING, SO WE JUST WANT TO KEEP IT GOING.

>> THANK YOU. OUTSIDE OF LAW ENFORCEMENT AND JAILS, THERE'S OTHER THINGS THAT I THINK ROLL INTO PUBLIC SAFETY THAT WE CAN BE A SUPPORTIVE ROLE.

I WOULD LIKE TO EVEN HAVE STAFF DIRECTED TO BE PART OF THE SUPPORTIVE ROLE.

THEY ALREADY ARE DOING SOME OF THIS.

WHEN IT COMES TO SEWER SITUATION UP THERE IN THE OUTLYING AREAS, WE'RE STILL ON CESS POOLS.

THAT'S EVEN BELOW SEPTIC TANKS.

I DON'T KNOW IF YOU GUYS ARE AWARE OF THAT, BUT THEY'RE TRYING TO PUT THEIR OWN SYSTEMS TOGETHER.

CAN WE HELP THEM GET THE GRANTS? CAN WE HELP THEM GET WIFA FUNDING TO BUILD THESE FACILITIES? BECAUSE WITHOUT THAT ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT WORKFORCE, NONE OF THIS MAKES ANY SENSE.

ALSO, WHEN IT COMES TO FIRE, WE DON'T HAVE ANY FIRE DEPARTMENTS.

BUT SOMETHING I'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT FOR A LONG TIME AND IT GOES NOWHERE IS WE HAVE PEOPLE IN OUTLYING AREAS THAT DON'T REALIZE MAYBE THEY'RE RENTING THAT THEY DO NOT HAVE FIRE COVERAGE, AND THE FIRE TRUCKS WILL ROLL ON A CALL.

THEY'LL PULL UP TO THE HOUSE.

THE PEOPLE ARE NOT SUBSCRIBED, AND THE FIRE TRUCK WILL SIT THERE AND WATCH IT BURN.

CAN WE SOMEHOW GET THE STATE DEPARTMENT OR REAL ESTATE OR SOME LAW THAT REQUIRES LANDLORDS TO DO A DISCLOSURE TO THESE PEOPLE, NOT FORCING THEM TO BUY IT, NOT FORCING THEM TO DO ANYTHING, BUT HAVING A DISCLOSURE WHERE YOU KNOW THAT THIS IS COMING DOWN THE PIPE.

THIS IS AREAS WHERE WE'RE NOT REALLY RESPONSIBLE FOR IT, BUT WE SURELY CAN WORK ON GETTING THE ANSWER TO FIX THIS ISSUE.

>> YEAH, I CONCUR WITH SUPERVISOR KUKNLL.

I FACED THE SAME ISSUE AS PEOPLE CALLING MY OFFICE ON A REGULAR BASIS ABOUT NOT HAVING FIRE PROTECTION IN THE PRESCOTT FORESTS AND DIFFERENT AREAS.

IT'S AN ONGOING ISSUE THAT CERTAINLY NEEDS TO BE LOOKED.

>> RECENTLY, IN MY AREA, WE HAD A HOUSE WITHOUT PROTECTION CATCH FIRE.

THE FIRE DEPARTMENT WAS THERE.

THEY LET IT CATCH ON OF THE NEXT ONE THAT HAD NO FIRE COVERAGE, WATCHED IT BURN.

THE THIRD ONE HAD COVERAGE, SO THEN THEY TURNED DOWN THE PUMPS AND PUT THE FIRE OUT.

>> SUPERVISOR QUICK QUESTION, JUST SO THAT I UNDERSTAND.

THESE ARE RESIDENTS IN THE COUNTY.

IF THEY DID SUBSCRIBE, WOULD THEY BE SUBSCRIBING TO THE YAVAPAI FIRE DISTRICTS?

>> NOT YAVAPAI BUT DIFFERENT DISTRICTS WITHIN THE COUNTY.

>> BUT THE POINT YOU'RE MAKING IS THAT WE NEED SOME WAY TO HAVE THOSE FOR FOLKS TO BE SUBSCRIBED TO THAT PROTECTION BECAUSE WHEN IT HAPPENS, IF THEY'RE NOT, THEY'RE NOT GETTING [OVERLAPPING].

>> WE NEED SOME WAY TO LET THEM BE AWARE THAT THEY HAVE NO COVERAGE.

USUALLY, THIS IS RENTERS.

THIS EXAMPLE I SAID WAS BASICALLY A BUNCH OF SMALL TRAILERS RENTING A PEOPLE WITH VERY TO NO LITTLE MONEY, AND THIS IS WHEN IT HAPPENS.

THEN THEY DON'T KNOW. I WENT OUT TO A HOME AND YOU LOOK IN EVERYTHING IN THE WORLD THAT THEY HAD IS NOW GONE.

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>> MY QUESTION TO YOU, AND JUST REACTING TO THE CONVERSATION, IS IN A LOT OF CASES, MAKING SOMEBODY AWARE OF SOMETHING IS JUST MAKING THEM AWARE.

IF IT'S SOMETHING THAT YOU WANT TO TRY TO INFLUENCE, THEN THAT WOULD BE GETTING TOGETHER WITH YOUR FIRE DISTRICTS, BEING A FACILITATOR, A CONVENER, AS A LOT OF THESE FOLKS SAID THAT YOU ARE TO TRY TO DRIVE UP THE PERCENTAGE OF THOSE COUNTY RESIDENTS THAT HAVE FIRE PROTECTION SUBSCRIPTIONS.

NOW, DO YOU CONTROL THAT? ABSOLUTELY NOT, YOU DON'T.

IT'S NOT YOUR SERVICE, BUT WHAT YOU'RE SAYING IS IT'S A PUBLIC SAFETY ISSUE WHEN FOLKS DON'T AND THEIR HOUSE BURNS DOWN, WHETHER THEY'RE RENTING OR BUYING.

IS THAT WHAT I HEAR YOU SAYING?

>> CLOSE.

>> MY TAKE ON THAT, IF YOU'RE GOING TO MAKE SOMEBODY AWARE OF IT, I THINK THEIR QUESTION MIGHT IMMEDIATELY BE BACK TO YOU, WELL, HOW ARE YOU GOING TO HELP ME WITH THIS PROBLEM? I THINK THAT INCREASINGLY, THIS IS A TOPIC THAT THE COUNTY MAY WANT TO CONSIDER INVESTING A LITTLE BIT MORE BRAIN POWER INTO HOW COULD WE BE CREATIVE? I'M HOSTING A TOWN HALL IN THE VILLAGE OF OAK CREEK, WHICH JUST EXPERIENCED A WILDFIRE, AND TRYING TO PULL TOGETHER SOME DIFFERENT VOICES FROM THE FOREST SERVICE, THE FIRE DISTRICT, THE POWER COMPANY, AND THEN ALSO THE INSURANCE ASPECT.

I'VE INVITED AN INSURANCE AGENT TO SHARE HER PERSPECTIVE.

I WOULD LOVE TO SEE THE COUNTY WORK WITH SOME WILLING INSURANCE AGENCIES TO DEVELOP SOME BEST PRACTICES FOR FIREWISE.

IT'S VERY UNFORTUNATE, WE'VE LOST OUR FIREWISE DOLLARS.

FOR THOSE WHO DON'T KNOW, OUR FIREWISE FUNDING WENT FROM $1.5 MILLION DOWN TO $351,000, I THINK.

THERE'S A LOT OF FUNDING THAT'S GONE AWAY.

IF WE CAN'T BE THERE TO PROVIDE FUNDING, I THINK WE CAN AT LEAST BE THERE TO PROVIDE SOME RECOMMENDATIONS, BEST PRACTICES, HELP BRING PARTNERS TOGETHER, NOT NECESSARILY INVEST A TON, BUT THERE MIGHT BE SOME CREATIVE THINGS THAT COME OUT OF THOSE TYPES OF CONVERSATIONS.

>> WE KNOW THAT THE COUNTY SUPERVISORS ASSOCIATION HAS CONTINUED TO LOOK AT THE INSURANCE COMPONENT OF IT.

THE OTHER PIECE THAT I HEARD YOU REFER TO, SUPERVISOR KUKNYO, WAS A LEGISLATIVE PIECE THAT WE CAN MOST DEFINITELY TALK ABOUT TOO.

>> JUST ON A RECAP HERE, ARE WE CHANGING? I'M JUST ASKING BECAUSE I'VE HEARD IT COME ALONG THIS GOOD GOVERNANCE.

IS SOMEONE ADVOCATING TO PUT THAT ON AS ONE OF THE FIVE AND DO SOMETHING DIFFERENT WITH WHAT WE ALREADY HAVE? I JUST LIKE TO ASK THAT.

>> WELL, I GUESS, WHAT I PERSONALLY WOULD SUGGEST IS WE'VE GOT TWO MORE TO WORK THROUGH.

MAYBE WE MOVE TO THOSE AND SEE WHERE THAT CONVERSATION TAKES US BEFORE YOU MAKE ANY DECISIONS.

>> I HAVEN'T HEARD THOSE COMMENTS FROM THE BOARD, JUST MANAGEMENT.

[LAUGHTER]

>> THAT SOUNDS GOOD. [OVERLAPPING]

>> THE CONSULTANT.

>> THAT SOUNDS GOOD. THE ONE THING I DID HEAR FROM THE SHERIFF, WHICH I KNOW IS A TOPIC THAT WE TALKED ABOUT YESTERDAY, AND HE MENTIONED HOUSING TOO.

I THINK THAT'S AN IMPORTANT PART OF ALL OF THIS, AND WE HAVE TALKED A LITTLE BIT, AND WE UNDERSTAND THAT.

THE FLOOR IS YOURS, GENTLEMEN, AND OFF WE GO TO ANOTHER TOPIC.

>> MADAM CHAIR, LET ME MAKE SURE WE'RE GOOD.

RIGHT NOW, UNDER PUBLIC SAFETY, WE HAVE THIS STATED RESULT THAT SAYS BY A CERTAIN DATE, THROUGH COOPERATION AND WORKING WITH OUR MUNICIPAL PARTNERS AND OTHER ORGANIZATIONS, THE COUNTY WILL WORK TO DEVELOP A REGIONAL APPROACH TO 911 EMERGENCY COMMUNICATIONS.

WITH THAT BEING SAID, I KNOW THERE WAS SOME CONVERSATION ABOUT THE FIRE PROTECT, ARE WE GOOD WITH PUBLIC SAFETY, OR DO WE WANT TO KEEP ON WITH THE CONVERSATION? I WANT TO ASK YOU ALL, AS A BOARD, THAT QUESTION.

>> WELL, WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT PUBLIC SAFETY, WE DEAL WITH THE SHERIFF.

WE DO HAVE SOME FIRE DISTRICTS AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

SOME ARE VOLUNTEER, SOME ARE TAXABLE, SO THEY ANSWER TO THEIR COMMUNITY BECAUSE THEY ARE TAXING THE COMMUNITY.

I'M JUST NOT SURE HOW THAT CONVERSATION GOES.

>> WELL, I'M ADDRESSING THE ISSUE WITH FIRE IN MY DISTRICT WITH MANAGEMENT AND NEW PRACTICES AND PROCEDURES WITH SUBDIVISION, WHICH WILL AFFECT EVERY OTHER DISTRICTS, AND I'M CERTAINLY HAPPY WITH THAT.

I DON'T THINK FIRE NEEDS TO BE BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE ENOUGH CONTROL OVER.

>> I AGREE, VICE CHAIR, SO WE'RE GOOD.

WE'RE GOING TO STICK WITH OUR LANE, WHICH WOULD BE LAW ENFORCEMENT, I UNDERSTAND.

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WE'RE ALWAYS WORKING TOGETHER WHEN IT COMES TO ALL THE OTHER AGENCIES OF THE COUNTY. GO AHEAD.

>> AGAIN, IF IT'S A LEGISLATIVE ISSUE, WE'VE GOT A MECHANISM TO ADDRESS THAT, AND I'M HAPPY TO DO SO.

>> IN TERMS OF BUILDINGS, IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT, SUPERVISOR? THE QUESTION THAT I HAVE FOR YOU AND THAT I WOULD ENCOURAGE YOU TO DO IS WITHIN YOUR INFRASTRUCTURE GOALS THAT SPECIFICALLY SPEAK TO BUILDINGS, AND THIS IS JUST AN OUTSIDER'S POINT-OF-VIEW, YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO PRIORITIZE WHAT COMES FIRST AND WHAT COMES NEXT.

WHEN YOU DEVELOP YOUR IMPLEMENTATION PLANS, YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO PUT DATES ON WHEN THESE THINGS ARE GOING TO GET BUILT BECAUSE WHAT WE'RE DOING THERE IS BUILDING BUILDINGS, SO TO YOUR POINT, SUPERVISOR, WELL TAKEN.

THOSE OUTLYING AREAS ARE GOING TO HAVE TO BE PART OF THAT IMPLEMENTATION BECAUSE I'LL JUST TELL YOU, IF I WERE IN MY LAST POSITION IN GOVERNMENT, WHICH WAS IN THE BUDGET OFFICE, I'D HAVE ALREADY PASSED OUT BECAUSE YOU'VE GOT A LOT OF STUFF YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO PAY FOR AND YOU MAY HAVE TO GET CREATIVE.

HOW YOU PRIORITIZE THAT GOAL ON INFRASTRUCTURE IS GOING TO BE VERY IMPORTANT BECAUSE IT WILL INCLUDE THOSE THINGS THAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT, SUPERVISOR.

>> I AGREE, JEREMY. THANK YOU FOR THAT.

THAT GOAL IS UP THERE.

AS A REMINDER TO THE BOARD, I SEE THREE NEXT STEPS WHEN WE TALK ABOUT THE CAPITAL.

ONE IS WE'VE GOT THE RURAL SERVICES MASTER PLAN COMING SHORTLY, THEN WE NEED TO REVISIT THE CIP BECAUSE QUITE FRANKLY, I HEARD SOMETHING NEW TODAY, A NEW CHANGE IN DIRECTION.

WE HAVE SET ALL ALONG THOSE THREE PROJECTS FOR THE FIRST PRIORITY.

I HEARD TODAY, RURAL SERVICES IS NOW THE PRIORITY.

AGAIN, WE'VE GOT TO COME BACK TOGETHER WITH YOU AS A BOARD TO MAKE THOSE DECISIONS TO PRIORITIZE.

NOT TO SUGGEST, IN SOME INSTANCES, MAYBE WE CAN DO TWO AT ONCE, BUT THERE'S GOT TO BE SOME PRIORITIZATION OF WHAT'S THE DIRECTION YOU WANT TO GIVE STAFF, AND THEN FINALLY, OF COURSE, THE FINANCING PLAN.

>> BUT BEFORE WE BUILD A $30 MILLION NEW CENTER, CAN WE BUILD A $500,000 OUTLYING BUILDING?

>> SURE, BUT THE BOARD IS GOING TO HAVE TO GIVE US THAT DIRECTION.

WHAT IS YOUR PRIORITIES AND IN WHAT ORDER YOU WANT TO TACKLE THIS?

>> I'M GOING TO KEEP US GOING IF THAT'S OKAY.

THE NEXT ONE, I THINK, WE WANT TO FOCUS ON IS HOUSING.

WE HAD A GOOD CONVERSATION AT THE BEGINNING OF THIS RETREAT EARLY ON ABOUT HOUSING AND THE FEELING, IF I SAY THIS AND IT'S INCORRECT, PLEASE CORRECT ME, I KNOW YOU WILL, THAT HOUSING WAS IMPORTANT FOR IT TO BE THERE.

MY QUESTION TO YOU AS A BOARD, BECAUSE WE'VE WORKED WITH A LOT OF DIFFERENT PLACES THAT HAVE THIS UP THERE, IS WHAT DO YOU WANT TO INFLUENCE REGARDING HOUSING? PEOPLE TAKE A LOT OF DIFFERENT STRATEGIES TO GET TO WHERE THEY WANT TO GO, AND THE QUESTION IS, WHAT ARE YOU UP FOR? WHAT IS THE RESULT THAT YOU WANT YOUR COMMUNITY TO EXPERIENCE AS IT RELATES TO HOUSING? BECAUSE WE KNOW IT'S CHALLENGE.

>> I'LL START WITH A COMMENT.

I'VE BEEN THINKING ABOUT THIS ONE OVERNIGHT, AND PERSONALLY, I'M STRUGGLING TO FIGURE OUT WHAT WE ARE GOING TO DO IN TERMS OF A GOAL AROUND HOUSING.

IF YOU LOOK AT THIS COMMUNITY, I THINK BOTH EAST AND WEST SIDES HAVE RECENTLY DONE HOUSING STUDIES, WE REALLY KNOW WHAT THE ISSUES ARE.

THINKING BACK ON PRIOR EXPERIENCE, THIS QUITE FRANKLY IS A TOUGH ONE FOR GOVERNMENT TO ADDRESS IN A REAL MEANINGFUL MANNER.

AGAIN, I'M JUST STRUGGLING TO FIGURE OUT WHAT OUR GOAL THAT WE CAN INFLUENCE DIRECTLY IS GOING TO BE ON THIS ONE.

>> BECAUSE IT'S MISLABELED.

THAT SHOULDN'T SAY HOUSING, IT SHOULD SAY GROWTH.

THAT'S THE BIGGEST ISSUE WE'RE STRUGGLING WITH.

EVERYTHING ELSE WOULD FALL IN UNDERNEATH IT.

>> I SEE A PATH TO MAKING SOME PROGRESS ON THE HOUSING ISSUE IN OUR ZONING ORDINANCE UPDATE.

I THINK, OF COURSE, WE'VE GOT A TEAM OF PEOPLE WORKING ON THAT.

THE REASON WHY IT'S IMPORTANT FOR THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS TO BE ENGAGED ON THIS TOPIC IS BECAUSE IT COMES WITH AN ELEMENT OF POLITICALNESS, IF YOU WILL, AND NIMBYISM, WHICH WE KNOW, WE'VE HEARD, IS A MAJOR ISSUE.

IT'S IMPORTANT TO COME TO THE BOARD BECAUSE WE'RE GOING TO BE THE ONES THAT HAVE TO STAND UP AND SUPPORT WHAT MOVES FORWARD.

I THINK IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT TO COME AT THIS ISSUE FROM A PLACE OF BALANCED INTENTIONS, AND I THINK WE'RE REALLY SHOWING THAT, ESPECIALLY HAVING ALREADY DEVELOPED A GOAL THAT LOOKS AT OPEN SPACE.

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CERTAINTY IS WHAT DRIVES MARKETS, AND THE AMOUNT OF UNCERTAINTY FOR HOUSING DEVELOPMENTS IN YAVAPAI COUNTY RIGHT NOW IS KEEPING THAT MARKET AT BAY.

IF WE'RE ABLE TO IDENTIFY SOME VERY SPECIFIC AREAS THAT ARE APPROPRIATE AND MESH WELL WITH THE INFRASTRUCTURE THAT WE HAVE, WITH THE GROWTH PLANS AND COMMUNITY VISIONS, WE MAYBE ABLE TO IDENTIFY SOME UNINCORPORATED AREAS ADJACENT TO MUNICIPALITIES OR IN OTHERWISE APPROPRIATE AREAS THAT WE CAN ZONE FOR DENSITY AND GIVE THEM A BY-RIGHT USE.

BY DOING THAT, YOU WILL ATTRACT THE PRIVATE SECTOR TO ACCOMPLISH OUR GOAL FOR US WITHOUT HAVING TO INVEST ANYTHING.

REALLY, IT'S THE POLITICAL CLOUT THAT WILL ALLOW SOMETHING TO MOVE FORWARD.

THAT'S AN OPPORTUNITY WE HAVE RIGHT NOW WITH THE ZONING ORDINANCE UPDATE, I SEE.

>> I AGREE WITH NIKKI.

I DON'T THINK WE CAN PUT THE HOUSING ISSUE ON THE BURDEN OF THE MUNICIPALITIES, WHICH I THINK HAS BEEN, MY FEELING, THE MINDSET.

LET THE MUNICIPALITIES DEVELOP ALL THE INFRASTRUCTURE THAT SUPPORTS THE HOUSING, AND YET WE SEE THIS SAME PROBLEM THROUGHOUT THE UNINCORPORATED AREAS THAT IS BARELY BEING ADDRESSED.

IT IS POLITICAL, BUT IN ORDER FOR IT TO BE AFFORDABLE, THE INFRASTRUCTURE HAS TO BE THERE AND YOU HAVE TO HAVE A CERTAIN LEVEL OF DENSITY.

I DON'T KNOW HOW IT CAN BE AFFORDABLE WITH ZONING TWO PLUS ACRES.

I KNOW IT'S REALLY POLITICAL, BUT HOW ELSE DO YOU ADDRESS AFFORDABLE HOUSING IF YOU DON'T BUILD AFFORDABLE HOUSING?

>> [LAUGHTER] OH, GOD. YOU WANT ME TO TACKLE THAT? THANK YOU. I WAS GOING TO LET YOU HOP IN THERE, MALLORY.

WHATEVER. THE HOUSING MARKET IS CONSISTENT, IT'S EXPENSIVE.

THAT'S JUST WHAT IT IS. IT'S CONSISTENT, BUT IT'S EXPENSIVE.

EVERYBODY ELSE IS STRUGGLING WITH THIS.

I HATE THE WORD AFFORDABLE HOUSING.

IT'S AFFORDABLE TO SOMEBODY.

PEOPLE COMMUTE ALL THE TIME.

WE HAVE ALL THESE VERY EXPENSIVE AREAS, AND PEOPLE COMMUTE TO WORK THERE.

THAT'S WHAT I SAID YESTERDAY ABOUT THE CITY OF PRESCOTT HAVING AN IDENTITY CRISIS.

AT LEAST OVER HERE, THEY DON'T KNOW WHAT THEY WANT TO BE OR WHAT THEY WANT TO DO.

THERE'S DIFFERENT VISIONS THERE.

UNTIL THEY ENTER THAT, ARE YOU SEARCHING FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING IN THAT AREA OR NOT, OR IS IT GOING TO BE THE EXPENSIVE PLACE TO LIVE AND THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING IS SOMEPLACE ELSE? THAT'S CONVERSATIONS WITH OUR MUNICIPAL PARTNERS.

BUT TO MALLORY'S POINT, I DON'T KNOW WHAT WE HAVE IN TERMS OF CONTROL OVER THE HOUSING.

TO YOUR POINT, SUPERVISOR JENKINS, IN TERMS OF WE NEED INFRASTRUCTURE TO DO HOUSING PROJECTS, THERE'S NO INFRASTRUCTURE IN THE MIDDLE OF NOWHERE, SO THERE'S NO HOUSING IN THE MIDDLE OF NOWHERE.

WE CAN'T HAVE THESE CONCENTRIC DISTRICTS OUT IN THE MIDDLE OF NOWHERE.

IF WE BUILD SOMETHING RIGHT NEXT TO A CITY, THEY END UP ANNEXING IT.

>> THAT'S OKAY.

>> I KNOW, BUT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT ROOFTOPS OR BILLS.

IT'S A SLIPPERY SLOPE. IS THAT OUR ROLE OR NOT OUR ROLE? GO AHEAD. YES.

>> I JUST WANT TO CLARIFY THE POINT I MADE ABOUT CERTAINTY.

I THINK WE HAVE BEEN ABLE TO MOVE SOME PLANNED AREA DEVELOPMENTS THROUGH OUR SYSTEM RAPIDLY, BUT EVEN IN THE BEST CASE SCENARIO, THERE'S EXTENSIVE PERIODS OF TIME WHERE A DEVELOPER HAS TO HAVE A LEGAL STAFF AND A PLANNING STAFF, AND GO BEFORE THE COMMISSION AND GO BEFORE THE BOARD JUST TO HAVE THAT LAND USE CHANGE AND ADVOCATE FOR DENSITY.

I THINK IT'S A MUCH STRONGER STATEMENT IF IT COMES FROM THE BOARD TO SAY, WE DESIRE SOME DENSITY HERE, NOT EVERYWHERE IN THE COUNTY, CERTAINLY NOT IN OUR RURAL AREAS.

AGAIN, WE HAVE THIS PROCESS ALREADY GOING WHERE WE'RE ABLE TO SPEND SOME TIME AND IDENTIFY THE OPPORTUNITIES THAT WE DO HAVE IN THE COUNTY THAT DO MESH WITH OUR GREATER VISION AND THAT, BY RIGHT ZONING, JUST SAVES TIME.

IT COULD SAVE SOMEBODY TWO YEARS.

I HAVE NO IDEA WHAT THAT WOULD ACTUALLY AMOUNT TO IN A DOLLAR AMOUNT, BUT IT'S SIGNIFICANT AS FAR AS SPECULATING.

>> EVERYONE, IF I COULD JUST MAKE A PROCESS COMMENT, AND THAT IS THAT, LISTENING VERY CAREFULLY TO YOUR CONVERSATION, OF COURSE, WE ENCOURAGE ORGANIZATIONS TO DEVELOP GOALS AROUND THINGS THAT THEY CAN SIGNIFICANTLY INFLUENCE.

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>> I REMEMBER A STORY UP IN OHIO, WE WERE WORKING WITH A COUNTY THERE AND THERE WERE THREE BOARD MEMBERS, AND THEY WERE ALL VERY GUNG HO, AND WE REALLY WANT TO FOCUS ON ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, AND I ASKED THE COUNTY MANAGER, HOW MUCH OF THE COUNTY BUDGET COULD BE, FOCUSED ON ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.

HE SAID LESS THAN 1%. AT THAT POINT, THEN THE BOARD WAS ONLY DOING WHAT WE CALL A BULLY PULPIT GOAL, WHICH MEANS THAT THE OPERATIONS OF THE ORGANIZATION CAN'T REALLY HELP VERY MUCH, BUT THEY WOULD TRY TO MOVE THAT THROUGH THEIR OWN POLITICAL POSITION AND CONNECTIONS.

NOT THAT YOU'RE TRYING TO DO THAT, BUT WE STRONGLY SUGGEST PEOPLE DO NOT DO THAT.

I THINK WHAT WE'RE HEARING IN TERMS OF HOUSING IS THE WAY THAT YOU CAN FEASIBLY AND REASONABLY INFLUENCE.

THANK YOU, SUPERVISOR.

INFLUENCE HOUSING IS PERHAPS THROUGH YOUR PLANNING AND ZONING REGULATION UPDATE THAT YOU'RE DOING RIGHT NOW.

VERY REASONABLE. THAT'S A HANDS ON APPROACH.

ABSOLUTELY. NOT PIE IN THE SKY, NOT SAYING YOU'RE GOING TO GO OUT AND BUILD 1,000 HOUSING UNITS, A LOT OF PEOPLE DO, THAT'S NOT HERE.

MY QUESTION FOR YOU THEN IS, AND ALSO THE PLANNING AND ZONING REGULATIONS WILL HAVE A GREAT DEAL OF INFLUENCE ON REGIONAL ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.

TREMENDOUS, AND BY THE WAY, I REMEMBER THE COMMENT THAT SEVERAL OF THE TOWN AND CITY MANAGERS MADE THAT THEY WERE REALLY HAPPY AND VERY SUPPORTIVE THAT YOU WERE DOING THAT.

REALLY HAPPY THAT YOU WERE GOING TO BE, LOOKING AT AT THE PNC RULES AND SO FORTH AND REALLY TAKING A HARD LOOK, AND FROM ALL OF YOUR COMMENTS, YOU'RE TAKING THIS VERY SERIOUSLY.

THEN THE QUESTION WOULD BE, DOES THERE NEED TO BE A GOAL ABOUT USING THE PLANNING AND ZONING REGULATION UPDATE TO FOSTER MORE HOUSING OR TO MENTION HOUSING IN THE GOAL? IF SO, DOES THAT BELONG BY ITSELF OR DOES THAT BELONG WITHIN REGIONAL ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT? IS THE QUESTION.

>> I THINK A LOT OF THAT IS GOING TO COME OUT OF THE ZONING STUDY, AND I WOULD LIKE TO SEE IF STAFF COMES UP WITH GOOD IDEAS, WE DON'T HAVE TO WAIT FOR THREE YEARS TO PUT THEM INTO PLACE.

WE CAN PUT THEM INTO PLACE RIGHT AWAY.

[NOISE] AFFORDABLE HOUSING, I THINK THE HOME OF MY OWN COMES INTO PLAY A LOT THAT WE'RE DOING HERE WHERE WE HAVE PRE APPROVED PLANS.

BUT WE'RE ABOUT TO BE FACED WITH A 2024 BUILDING CODE REQUIREMENTS, WHICH INCREASES THE COST OF BUILDING HOMES.

I'VE HAD PEOPLE CALL ME ON THAT.

ARE WE GOING TO ADD ANOTHER BY HAVING THESE NEW CODES? IS IT GOING TO COST YOU ANOTHER TWO GRAND TO BUILD A HOUSE? THERE'S ALSO ZONING THAT SAYS IT HAS TO BE SITE BUILT ONLY.

ARE THERE AREAS THAT WE CAN USE MANUFACTURERS OF TODAY AREN'T THE MANUFACTURERS OF YESTERDAY? TINY HOMES WERE NEVER A THING.

NOW THEY'RE COMING IN AND YOUNG PEOPLE ARE EMBRACING THEM, THEY TRAVEL LIGHT.

THEY DON'T WANT GRANDMA'S CHINA HUTCH.

THEY JUST WANT A LITTLE PLACE THAT THEY CAN LAY THEIR HEAD AT NIGHT.

IN THE RURAL PLACES, CAN WE HAVE A DIFFERENT MORE RELAXED AREA? IF YOU HAVE 40 ACRES, ARE WE GOING TO ALLOW YOU TO HAVE THREE SHIPPING CONTAINERS, FOUR SHIPPING CONTAINERS? BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT THEY LIKE OUT THERE.

THEY LIKE TO HAVE ALL THOSE LITTLE PLACES THEY CAN LOCK THEIR STUFF UP.

WE'RE GOING TO TACKLE A LOT OF THIS STUFF.

MAKING IT MORE AFFORDABLE.

I SEE SOME OF THE STUFF THAT'S GOING IN.

THE PROBLEM IS, THE AFFORDABLE HOMES AREN'T EVEN AFFORDABLE ANYMORE.

THEY'RE DOING THESE TINY LOTS WITH THESE TINY HOMES, REALLY NOT EVEN ANY PARKING, AND THEY'RE GETTING MORE.

THE AVERAGE WORKING FAMILY CAN AFFORD 300,000-400,000, AND WE JUST AIN'T GOT THAT ANYMORE.

>> DO YOU KNOW HOW LONG I'VE BEEN LUGGING AROUND MY GRANDMOTHER'S CHINA? I HAVE IT IN THE ATTIC. [LAUGHTER].

>> I DO.

>> BUT WITH THE DISSERVICES, WITH THE WORKING PEOPLE.

AS LONG AS YOU'RE RENTING, YOU'RE NEVER GOING TO BUILD WEALTH.

YOU BUILD WEALTH BY HAVING YOUR HOME, AND THEN MAYBE AS PRICES GO UP, YOU'VE GOT ENOUGH TO DO A DOWN PAYMENT ON A BIGGER HOME AS YOUR FAMILY EXPANDS.

THAT'S WHERE WE'RE MISSING OUR PIECE.

BUT WE HAVE TO CONTROL GROWTH BECAUSE THAT OVERWHELMINGLY PEOPLE ARE SEEING OUR INFRASTRUCTURES NOT KEEPING UP WITH IT.

WE REALLY DON'T HAVE THE MONEY TO BUILD THE ROADS THAT WE NEED RIGHT NOW.

IT'S BEEN NEGLECTED FOR FAR TOO LONG, BUT WE'RE GOING TO DO WHAT WE CAN.

>> LET ME ASK A QUESTION. THANK YOU, SUPERVISOR FOR THAT.

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IF THROUGH THESE UPDATES THAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT, AND I DON'T KNOW MUCH ABOUT THEM, BUT I GUESS THEY'RE PROBABLY NOT DONE, BUT MAYBE THEY DO NEED TO LOOK AT THE THINGS THAT YOU TALKED ABOUT AND FACTOR IN, THINGS THAT ARE NEEDED IN THE RURAL AREAS THAT MAY BE DIFFERENT THAN IN OTHER PARTS OF THE COUNTY.

BUT MY QUESTION TO YOU IS MORE OF A HIGH LEVEL ONE IN TERMS OF HOW WE POSITION THIS IS.

THROUGH YOUR PLANNING AND ZONING ORDINANCE UPDATES.

MAYBE THAT'S THE PHRASE I HEARD YOU GUYS SAY, WHAT IS THE COMMUNITY GOING TO GET? IF YOU DO THESE THINGS THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, TO MAKE IT EASIER TO WHAT ARE THEY GOING TO GET? IF YOU DO THIS THE RIGHT WAY.

>> IT SOLVES PROBLEMS MOVING FORWARD, TOO.

WE HAVE TO GET INTO WHERE WE ON DEVELOPMENTS.

WE NEED TO REQUIRE PADS.

WE NEED TO GET AWAY FROM THE DEVELOPMENTS THAT ARE JUST LOT SPLITS.

IT'S CAUSING US PROBLEMS. THERE'S NO REQUIREMENT FOR FLOOD CONTROL.

THERE'S NO REQUIREMENT FOR ROADS, NO REQUIRED FOR ROAD MAINTENANCE, AS WHEN YOU DO A PAD, YOU GET THAT, AND WE NEED TO HAVE THINGS PUT IN PLACE FOR WATER ON THESE DEVELOPMENTS, WHERE IF YOU HAVE A DEVELOPMENT OF SUCH AND SUCH A SIZE, YOU HAVE WASTEWATER TREATMENT AND YOU HAVE WATER RECHARGE.

WE DON'T TAKE THE WASTEWATER AND USE IT ON OUR GOLF COURSE.

WE NEED TO STOP ANY GOLF COURSE IN YAVAPAI BAY COUNTY, NO MORE ANYMORE. IT'S A WASTE OF WATER.

I GET WHAT IT'S GOING TO DO FOR YOU GUYS.

BUT WHAT IS IT GOING TO DO FOR THE COMMUNITY? IS THIS A WAY THAT THEY THE COMMUNITIES ARE GOING TO EXPERIENCE MANAGED GROWTH? IF I'M A RESIDENT, AND I LOOK AT THIS, WHAT DO I GET OUT OF THIS? THEY'LL BE ABLE TO FLUSH THEIR TOILETS.

>> THE MAJORITY OF MY RESIDENTS WANT GOVERNMENT OUT OF THEIR LIFE.

LITERALLY, THEY DON'T WANT THAT'S WHY THEY'RE OUT IN THE MIDDLE OF NOWHERE.

HOW MANY COMPLAINTS I GET FROM BECAUSE SOMEBODY DIDN'T HAVE A PERMIT FOR A FENCE IN THE MIDDLE OF NOWHERE? THEN I GOT DEVELOPMENT SERVICES SOMETIMES SAYING THAT IN MIDDLE OF NOWHERE THAT SOMEBODY WANTED TO HAVE A NURSERY ON THEIR PROPERTY, AND THEY NEEDED TO PLANT TREES AROUND THE NURSERY SO PEOPLE COULDN'T SEE THE NURSERY.

THAT LITERALLY HAPPENED IN HILLSIDE, AND SO GOALS FOR ME IN THAT PART OF MY COMMUNITY THAT I REPRESENT IS TO GET GOVERNMENT OUT OF THEIR DAILY LIFE, AND ALLOW THE SHIPPING CONTAINERS.

THEY WANT DIVERSITY OF WHAT THEY'RE ABLE TO DO AND BUILD OUT THERE AND THEY WANT EASE OF BUILDING, AND I'D LIKE TO SEE GOALS WHERE PEOPLE DON'T HAVE TO COME BACK IN AND TEAR EVERYTHING DOWN.

I'M SURE SUPERVISOR KOOK KNOWS RUN INTO THAT.

THEY BUILT THE FENCE, AND THEN THEY GOT TO TEAR THE FENCE DOWN TO GET A PERMIT TO REBUILD THE FENCE.

>> BUT THEY ARE ONLY ENFORCING THE LAWS WE TELL THEM TO.

>> YEAH, AND IT'S COMPLAINT DRIVEN, WHICH ONCE AGAIN, IT BOILS DOWN TO THE PEOPLE USE IT AS A WEAPON OUT IN THE RURAL AREAS, AND THAT'S THE PROBLEM.

>> WHAT I HEAR YOU SAYING, AND AGAIN, I'M JUST PART OF MY JOB IS TO WRITE AND SUPERVISE.

I'LL JUMP RIGHT BACK TO YOU. I'M JUST WRITING HERE.

I WROTE BY A CERTAIN DATE THROUGH PLANNING AND ZONING ORDINANCE UPDATES.

THE COMMUNITY WILL EXPERIENCE GREATER FREEDOM TO BUILD BUY AND OR RENT IN YAVAPAI COUNTY.

I MEAN, IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE SAYING?

>> THERE'S ANOTHER PHRASE WE COULD USE, WHICH WOULD BE A REDUCTION IN THE HOUSING DEFICIT, AND THAT ALSO IS PIN TO REGIONAL ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT BECAUSE THESE SMALL BUSINESS OWNERS, THEY WANT PEOPLE WORK IN THEIR CASH REGISTER, WASHING THEIR DISHES, AND THAT'S WHERE THE HOUSING DEFICIT IS REALLY IMPACTING THEM, AND IT'S QUANTIFIED OVER AND OVER AGAIN, THEY STUDY IT ALL THE TIME.

I THINK THE GREATER VERDI VALLEY I THINK WE'RE MISSING 3,600 HOMES IN THE VERDI VALLEY.

I THINK ABOUT 2000 OF THOSE ARE IN SEDONA PROPER.

IT'S QUANTIFIABLE.

SO THOSE ARE THE WORDS THAT COME TO MY MIND.

>> NIKKI, EVEN YAVAPII COLLEGE BUILDS RV PADS, AND THEY'RE GONE LIKE THAT.

PEOPLE JUST NEED A PLACE TO SLEEP.

I APPRECIATE THAT COMMENT SUPERVISOR CHECK.

GOES BACK TO WHAT MARV WAS JUST ASKING.

SO DOES HOUSING BECOME A SUBSET OF ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AS ONE OF THE WAYS WE CAN DIRECTLY IMPACT REGIONAL ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT?

>> EVEN THOUGH I HAD HOUSING PUT UP ON THERE.

>> YES, I DID. I CHANGED HER MIND. SHE TOLD ME.

I UNDERSTAND WHERE YOU'RE GOING WITH HOUSING.

I'M SORT OF AGREEING WITH THAT IN TERMS OF INFRASTRUCTURE AND MORE OF PUTTING GOOD GOVERNANCE.

>> THAT'S WHAT I'M THINKING.

>> YEAH, AND BY THE WAY, I DON'T KNOW THAT WE KEEP SAYING GOOD GOVERNANCE.

I DON'T KNOW WHAT IT COULD BE STEWARDSHIP OR THERE'S OTHER THEMES THERE.

>> WE CAN THINK ABOUT OTHER PRIORITIES.

WE CAN ALSO JUST HAVE FOUR PRIORITIES, TOO IF IT MAKES SENSE.

BUT I THINK THE REASON WHY BROOKS DID CHANGE MY MIND ON BREAKING HOUSING OUT AS

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ITS OWN STRATEGIC PRIORITY IS BECAUSE IT IS SO CLEARLY ON THE MINDS OF OUR CONSTITUENTS, AND THEY MAY NOT BE ABLE TO REALLY UNRAVEL WHERE IT FITS INTO REGIONAL ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.

BUT PEOPLE KNOW THAT WE ARE WORKING ON THE HOUSING CRISIS IN A VERY PLAIN AND CLEAR FASHION.

THAT'S HOW MY MIND GOT CHANGED. THANK YOU, VICE CHAIR.

>> I AGREE WITH YOU AGAIN. AS TO YOUR POINT ABOUT POLITICAL STATEMENT OR PUBLIC POLICY STATEMENT.

IT'S IMPORTANT BECAUSE IT'S ON EVERY SUPERVISOR CHECK IS CORRECT, ON EVERYBODY'S MIND, AND IT'S IMPORTANT I THINK AS A GOAL, BECAUSE PEOPLE WANT TO HEAR ABOUT IT, AND IF EVERYBODY ELSE IS TALKING ABOUT IT, AND A COUNTY IS NOT ONE OF OUR GOALS, I THINK IT PUTS US AS A DEFICIT IN TERMS OF BEING ABLE TO SPEAK ON THIS SUBJECT.

>> I'M JUST GOING TO SUGGEST THE OTHER WAY, IT SOUNDS LIKE A COMMUNICATION ISSUE, TOO, REGARDLESS OF HOW YOU FRAME IT, IT'S HOW YOU COMMUNICATE IT TO OUR COUNTY ABOUT WHAT THE PRIORITIES AND HOW WE'RE WORKING ON IT, AND WE TIE IT BACK TO REGIONAL ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, BUT YOU STILL HIGHLIGHT IT AS A HOUSING.

>> HERE'S JUST A LITTLE STORY.

I HAVE A WONDERFUL MAYOR WHO I HAVE A GREAT FRIENDSHIP WITH, AND I'VE HEARD THEM SAY, YAVAPAI COUNTY IS DOING NOTHING ABOUT HOUSING.

[LAUGHTER] JUST HAVING IT BROKEN OUT AS ITS OWN PRIORITY WILL SHOW WE ARE DOING SOMETHING ABOUT HOUSING.

>> THIS IS JUST THE COMMENT. WHAT I'M HEARING IS WE COULD ADDRESS A LOT OF THE HOUSING ISSUES THROUGH THE REVISED UPDATED PLANNING AND ZONING CODES.

MY HESITATION ABOUT THAT IS WE'RE 2.5 YEARS AWAY, AND THAT'S A CONCERN THAT IS THERE ANYTHING THAT WE CAN DO IN THE MEANTIME AND NOT WAIT FOR THE COMPREHENSIVE PLANNING, WHICH IS 2.5 YEARS AWAY.

WHAT CAN WE DO IN THE MEANTIME TO ADDRESS HOUSING?

>> YOU'RE CORRECT. I AGREE.

>> THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION.

WHAT'S THE ANSWER THERE? WHAT ARE SOME OTHER IDEAS?

>> WHAT TAKES ME BACK TO WHERE I STARTED.

I WAS STRUGGLING LAST NIGHT THINKING ABOUT THIS.

OTHER THAN THAT, WHAT WOULD WE DIRECTLY DO ON HOUSING? I WAS STRUGGLING TO COME UP WITH.

>> YOU MEAN TO CONTROL IT, TO SLOW IT DOWN?

>> TO ADDRESS IT.

YEAH, I GUESS TO ENHANCE TO HELP SOLVE THE HOUSING PROBLEM.

>> IT JUST MAKES ME SAD TO THINK THAT WE CAN'T DO SOMETHING SOONER THAN 2.5 YEARS.

IS THERE ANY PIECE OF THE CODE THAT CAN BE CARVED OUT AND MAYBE ADDRESSED ONE OR TWO ISSUES IN THE MEANTIME? I DON'T KNOW. JUST A QUESTION.

>> ALTERNATIVE BUILDING TO SUPERVISOR KUKNOS POINT.

PEOPLE BUILD HOUSES DIFFERENTLY NOW.

THERE ARE LOTS OF DIFFERENT MODELS.

I ALWAYS STRUGGLE WITH PEOPLE WHO WANT TO DO CONTAINER HOMES EVERYWHERE THAT I FIND INEXPENSIVE AREAS, AND I LIKE THEM.

BUT YET WE'RE NOT ALLOWED TO BUILD THEM OR TINY HOMES OR JUST DIFFERENT THINGS TOGETHER.

THINKING OUT OF THE BOX.

I KNOW SUPERVISOR KOOKNO HAS TALKED ABOUT THAT BEFORE, AND TO YOUR POINT, IF WE THINK OUT OF THE BOX, WE RAISE THAT TO THE LEVEL RIGHT NOW, AND WE LOOSEN SOME OF OUR REGULATIONS OR WHATEVER WE'RE DOING, THAT WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO DO THAT TO ENHANCE HOMES NOW.

THERE'S LOTS OF MODULAR HOMES COMING IN THAT DON'T FIT INTO ANYTHING, AND I THINK THAT WOULD ADDRESS IT INNOVATION IF WE RELAX IT AND BRING IT TO THE FOREFRONT.

>> I COMPLETELY AGREE, AND I THINK THERE IS AN OPPORTUNITY THERE, AND I DON'T I DON'T REALLY KNOW HOW THE BUILDING CODE IS TIED INTO SOME OF THAT OTHER STUFF, BUT THE DEFINITION OF A SITE BUILT HOME AND HOW TO EXPAND THAT IN A WAY THAT'S COMPLIANT WITH THE INTERNATIONAL BUILDING CODE THAT WILL HAVE STRUCTURES STANDING FOR 100 YEARS, AND WHATNOT.

DIGGING INTO OUR DEFINITIONS AND THEN ALSO POTENTIALLY JUST STRAIGHT UP EXPANDING THE HOME OF YOUR OWN.

THAT'S A SYSTEM WE HAVE IN PLACE.

IT'S BEEN SUCCESSFUL, AND ADDING TO THAT POOL COULD I MEAN, WE HAVE OUR DEVELOPMENT SERVICES DIRECTOR IN THE AUDIENCE, TOO, SO IF WE WANTED TO ASK HIM THAT QUESTION.

BUT THOSE ARE TWO SMALLER OPTIONS THAT COULD BE ACHIEVED IN THE NEXT COUPLE OF YEARS.

>> WHEN I TALK ABOUT THE BUILDING CODE THAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO ADOPT HERE, I DON'T KNOW IF THIS IS TRUE OR NOT.

I HAD A GENTLEMAN APPROACH ME AND HE GOES, FOR AN EXAMPLE, IF I HAVE A LIGHT SWITCH HERE AND A LIGHT SWITCH THERE, I HAVE TO RUN TWO WIRES.

NOW WITH THE NEW BUILDING CODE, I HAVE TO RUN A THIRD WIRE SO IT'S WI FI COMPATIBLE.

YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU'RE JUST TRYING TO BUILD SHELTER, YOU DO NOT NEED THE BELLS AND WHISTLES.

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THOSE STUPID PLASTIC CONTAINERS THAT COST A LOT OF MONEY THAT COVER THE OUTSIDE OUTLETS WHEN THE OTHER ONES WORK JUST FINE.

WHAT CAN WE DO TO REDUCE THE COST OF BUILDING AND THE TIMETABLE TO BUILD.

>> THIS WAS JUST HANDED TO ME BY MY ASSISTANT.

I MEAN, CO CHIEF COUNTY HAS AN OWNER BUILDER OPT OUT PROGRAM.

IT OFFERS OWNER BUILD OPT OUT PROGRAM, ALLOWING FEWER INSPECTIONS, LESS RED TAPE AND BUILDING YOUR OWN HOME.

CO CHIEF COUNTY IS ALREADY DOING IT.

THERE'S ALREADY SOME SOLUTIONS THERE.

MAYBE WE CAN LOOK AT THAT.

LESS STRINGENT REG BASICALLY.

>> THERE'S SOMETHING YOU CAN LOOK AT.

EXACTLY RIGHT THERE.

COCHISE COUNTY IS ALREADY DOING IT.

MAYBE IT'S BOILER PLATE THAT'S AVAILABLE FOR US NOW THAT WE CAN BRING IT IN TO YAVAPAI COUNTY. SOMEBODY ELSE HAS ALREADY DONE IT.

>> WE INVITED THE SHERIFF HERE.

WHY DON'T WE INVITE JEREMY HERE?

>> WHILE HE WALKS UP, I MIGHT SAY SOMETHING IF THAT WORKS.

BUT ONE OF THE GOALS THAT SHAPES UP AROUND THIS COULD BE SOMETHING LIKE THAT WE'RE GOING TO INCREASE THE AMOUNT OF OWNER BUILT HOMES.

>> CAN I MAKE AN OBSERVATION? I THINK THE LAST FEW MINUTES OF CONVERSATION HAVE BEEN ABOUT WHAT YOU WANT THE P&Z REGS TO SAY, AND WHAT YOU WANT IT TO DO?

>> NO. THE PLANNING AND ZONING IS MORE LAND USE, AND THIS IS MORE SPECIFICS ABOUT WHAT'S ALLOWABLE IN OUR BUILDING CODE, BUT I CAN.

>> I UNDERSTAND. THE BUILDING CODES WON'T BE PART OF THE PLANNING AND ZONING AT ALL? NO.

>> YOU DON'T HAVE BUILDING CODES IN THERE.

WHAT I'VE HEARD YOU SAY IS TALK ABOUT WHAT THE BUILDING CODE SHOULD LOOK LIKE AND WHAT THE P&Z CODE SHOULD LOOK LIKE.

WHAT WE WANT TO DO IS BRING YOU BACK UP TO A STRATEGIC PERSPECTIVE.

WE WANT YOU TO THINK ABOUT THE STRATEGIC PLAN AND WHAT YOU WANT IT TO DO FOR YOU.

THOSE VERY SPECIFIC REGULATION CONVERSATIONS ABOUT BUILDING CODES AND THE ZONING CODES MUST HAPPEN.

BUT I'M NOT SURE THAT QUALIFIES PER SE AS A STRATEGIC RESULT, SINCE YOU'RE GOING TO DO IT ANYWAY.

HERE'S SOMETHING THAT JEREMY PUT TOGETHER.

JEREMY, YOU WANT TO TALK ABOUT THAT.

>> JEREMY, JEREMY. THIS ONE RELATES TO THE CONVERSATION A LITTLE BIT BEFORE AND SUPERVISOR CHECK HAD MENTIONED THIS LANGUAGE THAT HAD SAID BY A CERTAIN DATE THROUGH PLANNING AND ZONING ORDINANCE UPDATES, THE YAVAPAI COMMUNITY WILL EXPERIENCE A REDUCTION IN THE CURRENT HOUSING DEFICIT.

>> THANKS.

AGAIN, THAT HAS TO DO WITH LOOKING AT TO SUPERVISOR'S POINT, AND OTHERS, NOT JUST HERE, BUT ACROSS ALL THE AREAS, HOW DO WE MAKE IT EASIER FOR SOMEBODY TO DO WHAT THEY NEED TO DO? THAT WAS SOMETHING THAT WE TALKED ABOUT BEFORE WE JUMPED INTO THE CONVERSATION ABOUT THE BUILDING CODES.

THAT WAS JUST SOMETHING I WROTE UP THERE.

IS THAT SOMETHING THAT'S IMPORTANT TO YOU?

>> CAN YOU INFLUENCE IT?

>> YEAH. THAT'S A GOOD DESCRIPTION, DISMAYED.

I'LL JUST SAY SERIOUSLY, AND PERSONALLY, I'M NOT SO SURE THAT THAT'S GOING TO ACTUALLY ADDRESS THE CURRENT HOUSING DEFICIT.

THAT'S A VERY LOFTY GOAL.

THAT WOULD BE NICE, BUT MAYBE I'M NOT BEING OPTIMISTIC ENOUGH HERE.

>> I'M PRETTY AMBITIOUS.

I DON'T THINK I'D BE INVESTING MY TIME IN THE PLANNING AND ZONING CODE UPDATE IF IT WEREN'T GOING TO MOVE THAT NEEDLE.

I AM INVESTING MY TIME THERE BECAUSE I DO THINK IT'S WORTHWHILE.

I THINK WE HAVE OPPORTUNITY THERE IN THE NEXT TWO AND A HALF YEARS, WHICH IS WITHIN THE STRATEGIC PLANNING TIME RANGE.

>> LET ME JUST BE CLEAR.

I THINK IT WILL ACCOMPLISH A LOT OF GREAT THINGS, BUT WHEN IT COMES TO ACTUALLY REDUCING THE CURRENT DEFICIT OF HOUSING, THAT'S WHERE I'M STRUGGLING A LITTLE.

AGAIN, MAYBE I'M NOT BEING OPTIMISTIC.

>> WELL, I HAVE A COUPLE OF SPECIFICS BUT IN MY MIND, OF PEOPLE WHO OWN LAND, WHO ARE INTERESTED IN BUILDING HOUSING, WHO ARE RESTRICTED BY OUR ZONING.

I AT LEAST IN MY COMMUNITY, HAVE A VERY SPECIFIC EXAMPLE IN MIND THAT THE NEEDLE CAN MOVE ON.

>> IS THE REVIEW ALSO GOING TO INCLUDE THE BUILDING CODE?

>> GOOD MORNING.

>> MORNING.

>> CHAIR MALLORY AND BOARD MEMBERS AND CONSULTANTS.

MY NAME IS JEREMY DYE.

I'M DIRECTOR FOR YAVAPAI COUNTY DEVELOPMENT SERVICES.

SINCE YOU INVITED ME UP HERE, I CAN SPEAK TO A COUPLE OF THOSE THINGS AND TALK ABOUT THE HIGH LEVEL A LITTLE BIT WITH REGARD TO OUR ZONING ORDINANCE UPDATE AND OUR OUR BUILDING CODE UPDATE, WHICH ARE TWO SEPARATE AND DISTINCT REGULATIONS THAT WE'RE UPDATING RIGHT NOW.

OUR BUILDING CODE UPDATE IS MOVING FORWARD AT THIS POINT,

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BUT WE'VE ALSO LAUNCHED INTO OUR ZONING CODE UPDATE, WHICH IS A MUCH MORE SUBSTANTIAL PROJECT, WHICH IS GOING TO BE COVERED OVER THE NEXT TWO AND A HALF YEARS AT THIS POINT.

JUST TO ADDRESS A COUPLE OF POINTS TO THAT.

SUPERVISOR JENKINS, YOU MADE AN INTERESTING POINT EARLIER.

I NOTED THAT THERE IS SOMETHING THAT WE CAN DO IN THE INTERIM BETWEEN NOW AND THE END OF THIS PROJECT? WELL, IT'S A PROJECT THAT IS MOVING FORWARD TO THAT END RESULT, BUT THINGS ARE HAPPENING IN BETWEEN.

I CAN KIND OF TIE A COUPLE OF THESE COMMENTS TOGETHER FOR ONE THING, WE'RE IN THE MIDDLE OF A HOUSING STUDY OURSELVES AS PART OF THIS PROJECT.

THAT HOUSING STUDY WILL GO HAND IN HAND WITH SOME OF THE OTHER HOUSING STUDIES THAT HAVE TAKEN PLACE IN THE VERDE VALLEY AREA.

THAT WILL HELP US TO FILL IN THE GAP OF WHAT REALLY IS NEEDED IN TERMS OF HOUSING FOR YAVAPAI COUNTY, ALONG WITH OUR MUNICIPAL PARTNERS.

THAT'S HAPPENING RIGHT NOW.

THAT'S GOING TO BE COMPLETED, ACTUALLY SOMETIME THIS YEAR, PROBABLY TOWARDS THE FALL.

AT THE SAME TIME, OUR ZONING ORDINANCE UPDATE PROJECT INCLUDES OUR SUBDIVISION REGULATIONS.

THAT'S REALLY WHAT OUR CONSULTANT IS FOCUSING ON RIGHT NOW.

THERE ARE SUBDIVISION REGULATIONS, WHICH SPEAK TO SOME OF THE OTHER HOUSING QUESTIONS THAT HAVE COME UP IN THE CONVERSATION AS TO EASING UP REGULATION AND MAKING CERTAIN THINGS, MAYBE EXERCISING SOME ADDITIONAL BUY RIGHT USES ON PROPERTIES, THINGS LIKE THAT.

OUR SUBDIVISION REGULATIONS ARE ALSO BEING WORKED ON RIGHT NOW.

THOSE ARE GOING TO BE COMPLETED WELL BEFORE THAT 2.5 YEARS IS UP.

IN THE MEANTIME, ONCE THEY START MOVING FORWARD WITH THE ACTUAL ZONING ORDINANCE UPDATE ITSELF, THAT WILL BE THE ONE THAT TAKES THE MOST TIME BECAUSE THAT'S WHERE WE'VE GOT MOST OF OUR OTHER REGULATORY AUTHORITY.

THE CONSULTANT IS LOOKING AT SOME OF THOSE NEWER PLANNING CONCEPTS, THINGS LIKE THE MISSING MIDDLE HOUSING, WHICH WOULD INCLUDE, ADDITIONAL TYPES OF HOUSING, FOURPLEX, DUPLEXES, THINGS LIKE THAT, WHICH COULD ADDRESS HOUSING ON A DIFFERENT LEVEL BECAUSE THOSE ARE THINGS THAT HAVEN'T BEEN.

THEY CAN BE DONE IN THE COUNTY RIGHT NOW, BUT THEY CAN'T BE DONE QUITE AS EASILY ACCORDING TO OUR CURRENT ORDINANCE.

SOME OF THAT MISSING MIDDLE TYPE OF HOUSING, HAS THE POTENTIAL TO BE ADDRESSED ON MORE OF A BY WRITE BASIS IN THE WITH THE FUTURE ZONING ORDINANCE UPDATE.

THERE ARE SOME ADDITIONAL HOUSING CONCEPTS THAT ARE THAT ARE BEING CONTEMPLATED RIGHT NOW AS PART OF OUR ZONING ORDINANCE UPDATE.

OUR HOPE IS IS THAT WE CAN MAKE THINGS EASIER TO ADDRESS.

WE CAN MAKE HOUSING EASIER TO CREATE IN OUR MORE RURAL AREAS AS WELL AS SOME OF OUR MORE DEVELOPED COMMUNITIES.

JUST TO SPEAK A LITTLE BIT MORE, IF I MAY, TO THE BUILDING CODE.

THE BUILDING CODE IS BASICALLY THE SAME, JURISDICTIONS ADOPT BASICALLY THE SAME BUILDING CODE, BUT NEW VERSIONS OF IT.

THOSE NEW VERSIONS INCLUDE THINGS LIKE NEWER TECHNOLOGIES, NEWER CONSTRUCTION PRACTICES, NEWER CONSTRUCTION MATERIALS THAT WEREN'T AVAILABLE PREVIOUSLY.

THE BUILDING CODES THEMSELVES, AS THEY ARE UPDATED THROUGHOUT TIME OVER THE YEARS, THOSE ARE INTENDED TO MAKE BUILDING EASIER BECAUSE NOW WE'RE INCORPORATING NEWER TECHNOLOGIES.

YAVAPAI COLLEGE HAS AN INTERESTING 3D PRINTING PROCESS FOR BUILDING HOMES THESE DAYS.

THOSE TYPES OF THINGS THAT CAN BE CONTEMPLATED AS PART OF OUR NEW BUILDING CODE.

TO YOUR POINT, SUPERVISOR KUKNYO, THE BUILDING CODE, THE LAST ITERATION THAT WE'RE CURRENTLY UNDER RIGHT NOW, THE 2018 BUILDING CODES, INTRODUCED AN APPENDIX SPECIFICALLY MADE FOR SITE BUILT TINY HOMES.

THAT APPENDIX ALLOWS FOR TINY HOMES TO BE BUILT ON A SITE BUILT BASIS, WHICH INCORPORATES DIFFERENT TYPES OF CONSTRUCTION.

THE THING THAT COMES TO MIND IS LIKE SHIPS LADDERS INSTEAD OF STAIRS AND THINGS LIKE THAT THAT REALLY ARE USABLE MORE IN THE TINY HOME ENVIRONMENT AND SO WE DO HAVE A LOT OF FLEXIBILITY THERE IN TERMS OF WHAT KINDS OF HOMES CAN BE BUILT.

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TYPICALLY, AS IT STANDS NOW, MANUFACTURED HOMES, MODULAR HOMES, THOSE TYPES OF THINGS ARE ALLOWED IN MOST ZONING DISTRICTS IN YAVAPAI COUNTY, BUT THEY ARE PERMITTED THROUGH A DIFFERENT PROCESS.

THEY'RE ACTUALLY PERMITTED THROUGH THE STATE RATHER THAN WE DO HAVE THAT ABILITY.

PEOPLE DO HAVE THAT ABILITY, AND THEY ARE ALLOWED BY OUR ZONING DISTRICT RIGHT NOW IN MOST ZONING DISTRICTS WITHIN THE COUNTY.

>> THE NEW ZONING, HOW MUCH DOES THE NEW CODE? HOW MUCH DOES THAT ADD TO THE COST OF BUILDING A THREE BEDROOM HOME? IS THERE NO CHANGE?

>> I HAVE NOT DONE A LOT OF CALCULATION ON THAT YET.

WE'RE WORKING ON THAT RIGHT NOW, BUT TO YOUR POINT, THE BUILDING CODE ITSELF, BY STATUTE, HAS TO BE APPROVED BY OUR BUILDING SAFETY ADVISORY AND APPEALS BOARD, WHICH IS A QUASI JUDICIAL BOARD THAT IS APPOINTED BY YOU, THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS.

WE JUST WENT THROUGH THAT EXERCISE LAST WEEK, AND THAT WAS RECOMMENDED FOR APPROVAL BY OUR BOARD OF BUILDING SAFETY ADVISORY AND APPEALS BOARD.

DURING THAT PROCESS, THE SAME CONVERSATION CAME UP BECAUSE THAT BOARD IS MADE UP OF INDUSTRY REPRESENTATIVES, ARCHITECTS, ENGINEERS, CONTRACTORS, THINGS LIKE THAT.

THEY HAD THE SAME CONCERNS.

WHAT ABOUT THE INCREASE IN CONSTRUCTION COSTS? IT'S REALLY DEPENDENT ON THE TYPES OF MATERIALS THAT ARE BEING USED.

IF SOMEONE IS USING A MORE RESTRICTIVE OR A NEWER TYPE OF MATERIAL TO BUILD THEIR HOME THAT MAY BE A LITTLE BIT MORE EXPENSIVE THAN USING TRADITIONAL LUMBER AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

IT'S REALLY DEPENDENT ON WHAT TYPE OF CONSTRUCTION IS TAKING PLACE.

BUT ALSO, AS THEY EXAMINED THE BUILDING CODES THAT WERE BEING PROPOSED, THEY ALSO TOOK A LOOK AT THINGS LIKE THOSE TAMPER PROOF ELECTRICAL SOCKETS AND THINGS LIKE THAT AND REALLY DETERMINED THAT THOSE PROBABLY ADD A LITTLE BIT MORE EXCESSIVE COST THAN WOULD REALLY BE NECESSARY.

PEOPLE CAN DO THAT IF THEY WANT TO BUILD THAT, BUT WE'RE NOT GOING TO REQUIRE IT AS THAT TYPE OF CONSTRUCTION AS PART OF THE CONSTRUCTION PROJECT.

OUR STAFF AND THE BUILDING SAFETY ADVISORY AND APPEALS BOARD REALLY LOOKED AT THE BUILDING CODE WITH THAT EYE OF CONSTRUCTION COST IN MIND AS WELL.

I GUESS IF WE GO BACK TO WHAT WE WERE TALKING ABOUT HERE ON THE BROADER SCALE, OUR BUILDING CODE UPDATE AND OUR ZONING ORDINANCE UPDATE THOSE ARE PROCESSES THAT ARE GOING TO CONTINUE TO HAPPEN, AND WE'RE GOING TO SEE RESULTS THROUGHOUT THAT ENTIRE PROCESS.

AS WE'RE LOOKING AT WHAT IS BEING PROPOSED HERE IN TERMS OF REDUCING OR INCREASING HOUSING AVAILABILITY, REDUCING HOUSING CONSTRUCTION COSTS, THOSE CONCEPTS ARE CONTEMPLATED IN BOTH THE ZONING ORDINANCE UPDATE AND THE BUILDING CODE UPDATE.

>> DID YOU ADD P&Z TO P&Z ORDINANCE, THE BUILDING CODE APPEAR?

>> IF YOU'RE ASKING ME, I DON'T KNOW THAT I WOULD OR I DON'T KNOW THAT WE WOULD NEED TO.

>> BUT YOU JUST ASSOCIATED BOTH OF THOSE THAT WE'RE ALSO FOCUSED ON HOUSING.

>> YEAH, THEY BOTH CONTEMPLATE HOUSING IN A DIFFERENT WAY.

I GUESS I WOULD LEAVE THAT TO THE BOARD TO MAKE THAT DETERMINATION.

>> I WOULD JUST LIKE TO POINT OUT THE OPT OUT PROGRAM COMES FROM OFF GRID LIVING, MOST OF THE TIME AND IN MY AREA, OFF GRID LIVING IS EXTREMELY IMPORTANT.

PEOPLE REALLY WANT IT.

THEY JUST WANT TO OPT OUT, AND THAT'S WHERE THAT COMES FROM.

THEN I'D LIKE TO THANK DEVELOPMENT SERVICES AND STAFF FOR BRINGING FORWARD THE SUBDIVISION REGULATIONS.

I KNOW IT WAS ISSUE IN MY DISTRICT RECENTLY.

THAT'S WHY I ASKED TO HAVE THIS PUSHED TO THE FOREFRONT BECAUSE IT IS SO IMPERATIVE, SO I JUST WANT TO SAY THANK YOU TO MANAGEMENT AND STAFF FOR DOING THAT FOR ME.

>> MAYBE THERE'S ANOTHER PIECE OF A SENTENCE THAT WE COULD GET OUT OF WHAT I AM ABOUT TO SAY, MAYBE.

THE REASON I SEE THIS AS NOT OVERLY AMBITIOUS IS BECAUSE THERE IS SUCH A DIVERSE DESIRE TO MOVE THIS NEEDLE FORWARD, ESPECIALLY IN DISTRICT 3, WHICH HAS THESE, VERY QUANTIFIABLE, VERY SINCERE HOUSING ISSUES, WHERE YOU HAVE PEOPLE COMING TO THE TABLE ALREADY.

YOU HAVE THE CITY OF SEDONA INVESTING DOLLARS IN HOUSING INITIATIVES.

YOU HAVE ENCHANTMENT RESORT AND SEVERAL OTHER LARGE EMPLOYERS BUILDING HOUSING FOR THEIR EMPLOYEES.

YOU HAVE A NEW CONCEPT OF A COMMUNITY LAND TRUST EMERGING IN THE VERDE VALLEY COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT ORGANIZATION.

WITH THAT TYPE OF SYNERGY,

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IF YAVAPAI COUNTY IS ABLE TO REMOVE AN OBSTACLE, WE BECOME A REALLY INTEGRAL PARTNER.

THIS STATEMENT DOES RESONATE WITH ME.

I DO THINK IT'S MEANINGFUL.

I DO THINK IT'S ACHIEVABLE.

I THINK THAT HAVING IT AS A STRATEGIC GOAL INVITES THOSE TYPES OF PARTNERSHIPS THAT PEOPLE KNOW IF THEY WANT TO THINK CREATIVELY ABOUT HOW TO MOVE THIS NEEDLE FORWARD, THEY KNOW THAT WE'RE AT THE TABLE.

>> SUPERVISOR CHECK, YOU SAID EARLIER THAT IT IS MEASURABLE AS WELL? THANK YOU.

>> I LIKE THAT STATEMENT AS IT IS, IT'S SIMPLE, BUT IT COULD SPEAK TO THE COLLABORATIVE NATURE.

SEEMS LIKE WE'RE ALWAYS ADDING THAT AS AN ADDENDUM THAT WE WANT TO COLLABORATE, WE'RE NOT GOING TO DO IT ALL OURSELVES.

>> WELL, I THINK TO THAT VERY POINT RIGHT THERE, WE NEED TO START ROLLING THINGS TOGETHER SO THEY BUILD ON EACH OTHER.

WHEN WE START TALKING ABOUT WORKFORCE DEVELOPMENT, ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, NONE OF THAT REALLY GOES IF YOU DON'T HAVE HOUSING THAT YOU CAN DO.

EVEN WHEN WE START WORKING WITH THESE OTHER PROVIDERS, BRINGING PEOPLE TOGETHER, BECAUSE THEY'RE ALL BEING PAID FOR BY THE SAME TAXPAYER. DO WE HAVE SOMEWHERE IN THERE? DOES THE AVERAGE PERSON THAT'S WORKING AS A WAITER EVEN KNOW IF THEY CAN GET A LOAN TO BUILD A HOUSE? DO WE HAVE THOSE KIND OF SERVICES IN OUR TITLE 1, 2, 3, WHATEVER THAT CAN PROVIDE THAT KIND OF STUFF AND THAT SAY, "YOU KNOW WHAT? THIS IS AFFORDABLE?" I TALKED WITH SOMEONE THAT WORKS IN THE COUNTY, THEY'RE PAYING 1,900 A MONTH FOR RENT.

COULD YOU TAKE THAT MONEY AND GET YOURSELF INTO A TINY HOME AND AT LEAST GET SOMETHING STARTED? HERE, WITH THAT MONEY, YOUR FINANCING IS AVAILABLE.

WE JUST NEED TO BRING THESE SERVICES TO MAKE IT COMPLETE?

>> THE LEGISLATURE LET THE LIHTC INCENTIVE DIE THIS YEAR.

THAT'S SOMETHING I THINK THE COUNTY CAN HAVE A VOICE TO THE EAR OF OUR LEGISLATORS TO BRING THAT BACK.

THAT WAS A SIGNIFICANT IMPACT TO HOUSING IN THE VERDE VALLEY.

I'M TALKING HUNDREDS UPON HUNDREDS OF HOMES HAVE BEEN BUILT APARTMENTS.

THE YAVAPAI-APACHE NATION AS WELL BUILT JUST UNDER 100 HOMES DUE TO LIHTC.

I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING ELSE THAT WE CAN INFLUENCE, AND THAT WE CAN MEASURE IT.

WE'RE EITHER SUCCESSFUL IN INFLUENCING THEM AND BRINGING IT BACK OR NOT.

THAT CAN BE USED THROUGHOUT YAVAPAI COUNTY IF WE COMMUNICATE IT TO THE DEVELOPERS HERE.

IT'S AFFORDABLE HOUSING, BUT IT'S WORKFORCE HOUSING.

IT'S INCOME BASED SO IT DOES ADDRESS FOLKS FROM ALL INCOME RANGES.

THAT WOULD BE A SUGGESTION THAT MAYBE WE COULD ADD THAT TO OUR BUCKET LIST AND SOMETHING THAT WE COULD MEASURE PRETTY QUICKLY, EITHER THEY BRING IT BACK OR THEY DON'T.

BUT THAT'S SUCH AN EASY THING.

IT JUST BLOWS MY MIND THAT THEY LET THAT DIE AND BEING SUCH A SUCCESSFUL PROGRAM THAT IT WAS.

>> ONE THING YOU COULD DO FOLLOWING THAT UP IS YOU COULD SAY, THROUGH THE P&Z ORDINANCE UPDATES AND ADVOCACY.

DID CHAIR MALLORY AND BOARD MEMBERS IF I MAY ALSO JUST AS I LOOK AT THAT STATEMENT A LITTLE BIT MORE TOO, I WAS ABOUT TO MAKE A SIMILAR COMMENT THAT SOUNDS LIKE THIS IS ON A BROADER SCALE THAN REALLY JUST THE P&Z ORDINANCE, SO IT MAY BE SOMETHING THAT WE WANT TO CONSIDER TO AMEND THAT STATEMENT TO EITHER INCLUDE SOME OF THOSE OTHER IDEAS OR INCORPORATE OTHER THINGS IN ADDITION TO THE P&Z ORDINANCE AS PART OF THAT STATEMENT.

>> HELLO. GOT IT.

COME ON NOW. I THINK.

YES. JUST TO FOLLOW UP TO JEREMY'S POINT.

MAYBE YOU BROADEN THAT SO THAT YOU'RE NOT LIMITING THE POSSIBILITIES OF WHAT YOU CAN DO AND SO IT'S SOMETHING LIKE BY 20XX.

YOU COULD SAY, AGAIN, IN THE COURSE, WORKING WITH HER PARTNERS OR IN CONJUNCTION WITH HER PARTNERS OR WHATEVER THROUGH THE P&Z ORDINANCE UPDATE, P&Z ORDINANCE UPDATE, BUILDING CODE UPDATES, AND ADVOCACY.

THE YAVAPAI COUNTY COMMUNITY WILL.

BECAUSE AGAIN, THERE'S MORE THAN ONE THING I THINK THAT'S COMING AT THIS CHALLENGE.

A LOT OF IT'S COME OUT OUT OF JEREMY'S DEPARTMENT, BUT THERE MAY BE OTHER THINGS.

IF YOU JUST PUT IT YOU'RE LIMITING YOUR STRATEGIES TO GO AFTER IT.

YES, SIR. SUPERVISOR COMPTON,

[07:10:03]

WERE YOU GETTING READY TO SAY SOMETHING?

>> HE'S HUNGRY.

>> GOT YOU. [LAUGHTER]

>> I'M GOING TO KEEP GOING TO THE MIC. I KNEW IT WAS IMPORTANT.

>> I LIKE ADDING THE WORD PARTNERSHIPS TO THAT.

ZONING ORDINANCE UPDATE, ACTIVE PARTNERSHIPS, AND ADVOCACY. HOW DOES THAT SOUND?

>> THAT SOUNDS GOOD. IS THERE ANY DESIRE? AGAIN, I'M JUST LISTENING.

I'M NOT AN EXPERT IN THIS AT ALL TO INCLUDE THAT BUILDING CODE.

I'M SEEING HEADS. PLEASE SPEAK UP. HELP ME. I'M SORRY.

>> I DON'T THINK IT FITS THERE.

>> I DON'T THINK THAT LEADS TO THE DESIRED RESULT.

>> OKAY. WHAT I NEEDED TO HEAR.

>> I LIKE THE WORD PARTNERSHIPS BECAUSE I WAS JOTTING DOWN SWORD MUNICIPALITIES IN THE PRIVATE SECTOR, BUT PARTNERSHIPS COVERS THAT.

>> 20XX THROUGH WORKING WITH PARTNERS.

>> SHOULD WE SAY ZONING ORDINANCE UPDATE OR IS P&Z.

>> PLANNING AND ZONING.

>> THAT'S MORE LIKE THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION.

WHAT DO YOU THINK ABOUT THAT?

>> WELL, IF WE WERE GOING TO BROADEN THAT STATEMENT, WE COULD CALL IT CODE UPDATES AND THAT WOULD INCORPORATE BOTH THE PLANNING AND ZONING ORDINANCE AND THE BUILDING CODE.

>> BY 20XX, THERE'S THE FIRST PART THROUGH WORKING WITH OUR PARTNERS? OR NOT?

>> NO, I THINK THE CODE UPDATE IS THE FIRST ONE.

>> THROUGH CODE UPDATES AND WORKING WITH OUR PARTNERS?

>> YOU COULD SAY ACTIVE PARTNERSHIPS.

>> IN ACTIVE PARTNERSHIPS.

>> THROUGH CODE UPDATES, ACTIVE PARTNERSHIPS, AND ADVOCACY.

>> SHIPS.

>> ADVOCACY. I'LL REWRITE THIS IN JUST A SECOND WHEN WE BREAK FOR FOOD.

ADVOCACY, THE YAVAPAI COUNTY COMMUNITY WILL EXPERIENCE A REDUCTION IN THE CURRENT HOUSING DEFICIT.

>> YOU'RE WELCOME, BROOKS.

>> LET ME REREAD THIS AGAIN.

BY 20XX, THROUGH CODE UPDATES, ACTIVE PARTNERSHIPS, AND ADVOCACY, THE YAVAPAI COMMUNITY WILL EXPERIENCE A REDUCTION IN THE CURRENT HOUSING DEFICIT.

WHICH IS MEASURABLE.

NOW, ONE OF THE THINGS I WANT TO MAKE YOU AWARE OF HERE IS THE COMMENT WAS MADE THAT SOMETHING HAPPENS IN TWO AND A HALF YEARS.

WELL, JUST BECAUSE IT FINISHES IN TWO AND A HALF YEARS DOESN'T MEAN YOU NECESSARILY REALIZE THE RESULTS AT THE TWO AND A HALF YEAR MARK.

THE DESIRED DUE DATE, YOU MAY HAVE TO HAVE YOURSELF SOME TIME TO START SEEING THOSE RESULTS THAT YOU'RE TRYING TO DRIVE TOWARD.

JUST KEEP THAT IN MIND.

BECAUSE THE CODE GET UPDATED IN TWO AND HALF DOESN'T MEAN YOU'RE GOING TO REALIZE THE SUCCESS YOU'RE LOOKING FOR IN THAT TWO AND HALF YEAR PERIOD. YES, MA'AM CHAIR.

>> I WAS JUST GOING TO SAY, AND, OF COURSE, AS WE MOVE FORWARD WITH ALL OF THESE IDEAS AND WE START THEM, EVERY LITTLE BIT OF MOVEMENT TOWARD THE END RESULT IS SOMETHING THAT WE SHOULD TALK ABOUT, SOMETHING THAT WE PROMOTE.

SOMETHING THAT GIVES THIS COMMUNITY HOPE AND VALIDATES WHAT IT IS THAT WE STARTING OFF WITH.

WE'RE GOING TO MOVE FORWARD.

WE'RE TAKING LITTLE BITES, BUT YOU KNOW WHAT? BY 2029, WE'LL HAVE REALLY DONE A LOT.

THAT'S WHERE WE CAN REALLY GRAB A HOLE AND MOVE FORWARD WITH THAT.

IF THAT SOUNDS GOOD WITH ALL OF YOU, I'M GOOD WITH THIS.

THE OTHER THING IS I FIGURED, WE WOULD TAKE A BREAK IN 2 MINUTES, BUT WE DO NOT HAVE FOOD, VICE CHAIR COMPTON.

>> SHE JUST MADE THAT UP. SHE JUST MADE IT UP.

>> WE HAVE SNACKS. BUT IT'S NOT LUNCH.

>> SHE'S PAYING ME BACK FOR YESTERDAY.

>> I SEE. BUT I WOULD LIKE, BEFORE WE BREAK.

LET'S JUST GET A RECAP CAUSE I JUST LIKE TO KNOW WHERE ARE WE AT ON THIS CAUSE I'M TRYING TO STAY ON TIME, AND I'M TRYING TO REMEMBER IN ONE WAY.

>> JUST IN TERMS OF WHERE WE FEEL LIKE THAT WE'RE AT.

WE HAVE THREE STRATEGIC RESULTS FOR INFRASTRUCTURE.

WE HAVE TWO STRATEGIC RESULTS FOR WATER AND OPEN SPACE.

WE HAVE ONE REALLY SPECIFIC STRATEGIC RESULT FOR PUBLIC SAFETY.

NOW AS IT STANDS, UNLESS YOU WANT TO DO SOMETHING ELSE, WE HAVE ONE STRATEGIC RESULT FOR HOUSING.

IT IS STILL OUT THERE AS ITS OWN PRIORITY.

NOW, IF THAT STANDS THAT WAY, WE REALLY HAVE TO FOCUS ON REGIONAL ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.

THAT'S JUST VERY STRAIGHTFORWARD.

THAT'S WHERE IT SEEMS THAT WE'RE AT RIGHT NOW.

>> WELL, THAT'S VERY GOOD.

>> GO AHEAD.

>> ALSO, I THINK SOMETHING HAS TO SAY, WE NEED TO PLAN FOR HOUSING,

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NOT REACT TO HOUSING.

THAT'S OUR BIGGEST ISSUE HERE.

WE HAVE THINGS JUST HAPPENING ALL OVER THE PLACE, AND WE'RE NOT PLANNING FOR HOW THE GROWTH IS GOING TO GO.

I'D LIKE TO HAVE SOMETHING IN OUR HOW ARE WE GOING TO MOVE AWAY FROM WILDCAT DEVELOPMENTS INTO MORE PAD'S WITHOUT RESTRICTING AN INDIVIDUAL'S RIGHT TO USE HIS LAND.

I THINK THAT'S A HUGE PROBLEM WE HAVE, AND WE'RE NOT ADDRESSING THAT AT ALL.

I>> THINK WE MIGHT BE ADDRESSING IT A LITTLE BIT.

I THINK THAT CAN BE INCLUDED IN OUR ADVOCACY, AND I CERTAINLY THINK THAT THAT'S INCLUDED IN OUR ZONING ORDINANCE UPDATE.

BUT IF THERE IS SOMETHING MORE SPECIFIC, WE CAN TALK ABOUT IT.

>> I'M THINKING WHEN STUFF COMES BACK WITH HOW WE GET THERE, THAT'S GOING TO TELL US A LOT ABOUT ANSWERING OUR INDIVIDUAL CONCERNS OR OUR DETAILED CONCERNS.

>> I THINK THIS IS A GOOD STOPPING POINT FOR 15 MINUTES IF THAT'S OKAY WITH YOU.

I'M LOOKING AT BOTH OF YOU.

>> YES, MA'AM.

>> IT'S 11:00.

WE CAN COME BACK AT 11:15.

WE DO ONLY GET A HALF AN HOUR FOR LUNCH, AND LUNCH IS AT NOON. WE'LL COME BACK.

WE HAVE 45 MINUTES TO DIGEST SOME MORE, AND THEN WE'LL CONTINUE ON.

IT IS 11:15.

WE'RE GOING TO GET BACK IN SESSION. LUNCH IS AT 12.

WE STILL HAVE ANOTHER TOPIC.

THEN WE STILL HAVE TO DO PROBABLY A MAJOR RECAP OF EVERYTHING THAT WE'VE DONE.

AM I CORRECT ON A RECAP OF TWO DAYS WORTH?

>> IT'LL BE A RECAP. JUST TAKE ABOUT 15 MINUTES, BUT YES, MA'AM. WE'LL GET IT GOING.

>> NO WORRIES. WE'RE HERE.

EVERYBODY'S AT THE TABLE. WE'RE READY.

>> IN TERMS OF FOLLOWING THIS FORMAT HERE, ONE OF THE LAST BIG TOPICS THAT I KNOW IS VERY IMPORTANT FOR THE CONVERSATION IS THIS TOPIC OF, AS WE'VE STATED, REGIONAL ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.

WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT REGIONAL ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, AND I WANT YOU TO THINK HIGH LEVEL HERE, WHAT IS IT THAT YOU WANT YOUR COMMUNITY TO EXPERIENCE, FROM THE WORK THAT YOU GUYS INTEND TO DO OR PARTNERSHIPS WITH FOLKS, THAT'S THE QUESTION FIRST.

NOT THE STEPS.

BUT WHAT DO YOU WANT THE COMMUNITY TO GET? IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE POLISHED.

IT COULD JUST BE CONVERSATIONAL. YES, SIR.

>> JOBS THAT PAY A LIVING WAGE.

>> I THINK WE COULD USE RIGHT NOW, WE HAVE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT ALL OVER THE PLACE.

EVERYONE'S DOING THEIR OWN THING.

IT NEEDS TO BE BROUGHT IN BY A NEUTRAL FACILITATOR TIED TOGETHER AND MOVE FORWARD.

>> MORE SUCCESSFUL SMALL BUSINESS OWNERS.

>> LET ME ASK YOU A QUESTION. WHY DO YOU SAY THAT?

>> I SAY THAT BECAUSE WE HAVE A TOURISM INDUSTRY THAT REALLY DRIVES OUR ECONOMY AND IF YOU HAVE SMALL BUSINESS OWNERS THAT ARE OFFERING UNIQUE EXPERIENCES THAT YOU CAN'T EXPORT.

>> SUPERVISOR, YOU TALKED ABOUT THE TOURISM INDUSTRY.

I DON'T WANT TO ASK ANY QUESTIONS THAT HAVE BAD WORDS IN THEM OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.

BUT THIS IS A COMMUNITY THAT RELIES ON TOURISM.

IS THAT PARTIALLY TRUE?

>> PARTS OF IT.

I AGREE WITH YOU MA'AM.

>> THEY'RE DEFINITELY PIECES OR PARTS OF YAVAPAI COUNTY THAT ABSOLUTELY THEIR WHOLE ECONOMY IS BASED ON TOURISM.

BUT THEN THERE ARE OTHER PARTS OF THAT AREN'T BASED ON TOURISM THAT HAVE A NEED OF ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT BECAUSE THEY DON'T LIVE IN AN EASILY ACCESSIBLE PLACE FOR TOURISTS TO GET TO.

>> TO BE CLEAR, THERE'S DEFINITELY AN ECONOMY I WANT TO SUPPORT BEYOND TOURISM BECAUSE IT'S IMPORTANT TO BE BALANCED.

BUT, WHAT I HAVE SEEN IN THE VERDE VALLEY, WHICH HAS A LOT OF SMALL BUSINESS OWNERS, AND THAT HAS DRIVEN A LOT OF TOURISM IS THAT IT'S LOW HANGING FRUIT, THAT THOSE SMALL BUSINESSES CAN TAKE A $15,000 LOAN, TURN IT AROUND AND HAVE BECOME A SOLID PIECE OF OUR ECONOMY,

[07:20:02]

WHICH THEN DRIVES TOURISM.

IT'S A WONDERFUL PIECE OF LOW HANGING FRUIT THAT DOESN'T NEED A TON OF INFRASTRUCTURE AROUND IT USUALLY.

BUT CERTAINLY THERE'S MORE COMPLEX ISSUES TO TACKLE SUCH AS INDUSTRIAL DEVELOPMENT, AND WE CERTAINLY WANT TO TALK ABOUT THAT TOO.

>> GOING BACK TO SUPERVISOR [INAUDIBLE] COMMENT EARLIER ABOUT JOBS AND LIVING WAGE.

IF I'M A COMPANY, AND I'M GOING TO MAKE THIS UP LET'S SAY I'M IN CALIFORNIA, I'M LOOKING TO GET OUT AND I'M LOOKING AT YAVAPAI COUNTY.

IS THERE A WEBSITE I CAN GO TO?

>> WE HAVE AN ENGINE IN THE VERDE VALLEY THAT DOES VERY GOOD AT ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.

>> WE HAVE AN ENGINE BEING DEVELOPED IN PRESCOTT.

WE USED TO HAVE A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT ONES.

BUT NOW THERE'S A NEW ONE LIKE GRIT, THEY CALL IT.

EACH TOWN HAS THEIR OWN INDIVIDUAL EFFORTS.

BUT THERE'S NO ONE ACTING AS A FACILITATOR.

I THINK WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, YOU GOT TO TIE IN WORKFORCE DEVELOPMENT.

AT THE BOTTOM, ALL THESE OTHER THINGS WE'RE TALKING ABOUT WITH HOUSING, TRANSPORTATION, THE WHOLE SHOOTING MATCH IN THERE.

I THINK THERE NEEDS TO BE A NEUTRAL FACILITATOR.

I'VE BEEN TALKING WITH YAVAPAI ON HOW TO DO THAT.

THEY'RE VERY GOOD AT DOING THAT.

DR. RYAN CAME UP WITH SOMETHING, AND SHE SHARED IT WITH MAURY AS WELL.

IT'S ALL VERY DRAFT, BUT IT'S SOMETHING THAT COULD REALLY WORK.

I'VE BEEN HERE 47 YEARS.

I'VE SEEN WHAT WORKS, I'VE SEEN WHAT DOESN'T WORK AND I'M FEARFUL THAT WHAT DOESN'T WORK IS ABOUT TO HAPPEN AGAIN.

WE NEED TO DO IT.

I THINK THERE'S A BETTER CHANCE FOR REGIONAL COOPERATION NOW THAN THERE EVER HAS BEEN THAT I'VE SEEN.

THE CHANGES IN LEADERSHIP, THE CHANGES IN DEMOGRAPHICS.

THE COMPETITION IS GOING AWAY SOMEWHAT.

>> TOWNS WOULD COMPETE, AND YOU KNOW WHAT, WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT THIS AREA OF THE HILL, WHO CARES WHERE A FACTORY THAT DOES CLEAN MANUFACTURING WINDS UP? BECAUSE WE'RE GOING TO COMMUTE TO IT ANYWAY.

WE JUST HAD AMAZON TRY AND COME TO US TO DO A DISTRIBUTION CENTER AND WE LET A FEW LOUD PEOPLE KILL THAT.

THAT WAS 150 JOBS.

YOU DON'T GET MUCH CLEANER THAN THAT AND PEOPLE THAT INVEST IN THEIR PEOPLE.

THE REASON I'M SO PASSIONATE ABOUT THIS, I WAS SHOVEL AN ASPHALT FOR $7.50 AN HOUR.

THEY BROUGHT IN A FACTORY THAT MADE FLEXIBLE PACKAGING POTICA BAGS.

I DOUBLED MY WAGE OVERNIGHT.

I GOT HEALTH BENEFITS, I GOT RETIREMENT BENEFITS, I GOT VACATION TIME.

THAT'S WHAT CHANGES A FAMILY'S LIFE.

WE HAVE TO PURSUE THAT.

WE CAN'T DAMAGE OUR COMMUNITIES AND PLACE THINGS IN THE WRONG SPOT, BUT WE DEFINITELY CAN DO THAT.

THERE'S THINGS A COUNTY CAN DO,'CAUSE WHEN COMPANIES COME, THEY WANT TO BUILD A BUILDING, OR THEY DON'T WANT TO BUILD A BUILDING.

THEY WANT TO MOVE IN AND GO TO WORK.

IF WE CAN GET SOMEONE THAT IS WILLING TO PONY UP THE MONEY TO BUILD THE BUILDING, SOMEONE TO DONATE THE LAND, CAN WE PUSH OFF THE FEES? CAN WE PUSH OFF THE TAXES UNTIL TIME OF OCCUPANCY AND THEN THAT BECOMES DUE, AND MAYBE THAT'S SPREAD OUT OVER 10, 20 YEARS, SO WE DON'T LOSE ANY MONEY.

BUT IF YOU CAN MAKE RICH PEOPLE RICHER BY INVESTING IN THE COMMUNITY, AND IT'S GOOD FOR EVERYBODY, WHY NOT DO IT?

>> FOR ME, ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, I'D LIKE TO SEE THE GOAL OF ATTRACTING SUBCONTRACTORS FROM AI AND ALL THE NEW FACILITIES THAT ARE GOING DOWN THERE.

THE SUBCONTRACTORS COMING INTO BOTTOM OF SUPERVISOR JENKINS DISTRICT IN THE BOTTOM OF MY DISTRICT, AS I'VE SPOKEN ABOUT ALREADY THE BNSF IS PUTTING THE GIANT THE LARGEST CONTAINER DISTRIBUTION CENTER IN UNITED STATES, RIGHT AT THE BOTTOM OF MY DISTRICT OVER INTO MARICOPA, BRINGING THOSE SUBCONTRACTORS IN AT A LOWER COST AND WHAT SUPERVISOR KUKNYO IS TALKING ABOUT, PUSH OFF TAXES, ANY OF THAT KIND OF THING, WE CAN GET TO ATTRACT THEM HERE VERSUS BEING IN MARICOPA.

WAS IT 40% OF THE PEOPLE COMMUTE TO PHOENIX RIGHT NOW, SO WHY NOT ATTRACT SOME OF THOSE SUBCONTRACTORS UP HERE? BECAUSE THEY ARE COMING.

THE SUBCONTRACTOR INDUSTRY IS JOBS, JOBS, JOBS, BECAUSE IT PROVIDES, THAT'S WHAT SUPERVISOR KUKNYO IS TALKING ABOUT.

>> WE ROLL IN THE TITLE 1, 2, 3, 4, WHATEVER INTO THIS PROGRAM TO WHERE PEOPLE CAN COME INTO IT, GET THE SUPPORT THEY NEED TO BEGIN WITH, AND WE PUT THEM INTO A POSITION WHERE THEY CAN DIG OUT. DO IT.

>> DO IT. INCENTIVES BRING PEOPLE TO THE TABLE.

[07:25:03]

BUT I KNOW THAT THERE ARE RULES NOW AROUND INCENTIVES.

I BELIEVE THERE ARE RULES ABOUT INCENTIVES.

YOU KNOW HOW I TALKED ABOUT LYTEK, THE LEGISLATURE LET IT DIE.

WELL, CONGRESS IS ABOUT TO LET THE OPPORTUNITY ZONE DIE.

THE OPPORTUNITY ZONE BROUGHT LIFE TO THE 260 CORRIDOR, AND IT'S GOING TO EXPIRE THIS YEAR.

THIS IS ANOTHER PLACE WHERE WE CAN ADVOCATE FOR AN OPPORTUNITY ZONE, WHICH IS ALREADY PROVEN THAT WILL BRING GREAT BUSINESSES IN AND DEVELOPMENTS THAT WE WANT TO SEE, LIKE A FRAME TECH, THAT IT DOESN'T AFFECT THE ENVIRONMENT, AND IT GIVES YOU JOBS.

IT AND IT HIRES A LOT OF PEOPLE AND IT PROVIDES FRAMING MATERIALS FOR ALL OVER THE UNITED STATES.

THESE ARE THINGS THAT ARE REALLY GREAT PAYING JOBS, AND THAT WAS ONLY POSSIBLE THROUGH THE OPPORTUNITY ZONE.

>> YEAH, I'M USED TO THAT AS WELL.

WE CALL THEM ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT ZONES.

IT'S THE SAME THING.

THE ESTABLISHMENT OF THESE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT ZONES ARE EXTREMELY IMPORTANT IN TERMS OF FINANCING TAXES, PROPERTY TAXES, ALL SORTS OF THINGS YOU CAN THROW IN THERE.

>> BECAUSE THE COMMUNITIES IDENTIFY WHERE THE OPPORTUNITY ZONE IS, THE COUNTY COULD DO, THEN YOU PUT IT WHERE YOU WANT IT.

BECAUSE YOU'VE IDENTIFIED THE AREA WHERE YOU DO WANT THAT TYPE OF INDUSTRY.

>> YOUR QUESTION WAS, WHAT DO WE WANT THE COMMUNITY TO SEE?

>> EXPERIENCE. AN EXAMPLE OF THAT WOULD DESCRIBE WHAT SUPERVISOR KUKNYO SAID LIVABLE WAGE JOBS.

WHAT DO YOU WANT THE COMMUNITY TO GET FROM ALL THIS?

>> CLEAR PRECISE EASY COMMUNICATION.

THE COMMUNICATION, WHATEVER WE DELIVER, NO MATTER HOW IT IS, THAT WE'RE ABLE TO HAVE THE COMMUNITY UNDERSTAND EXACTLY WHAT WE'RE DOING, NOT TO MISINTERPRET OUR JOB.

>> CHAIR, WHAT I HEAR YOU SAYING IS ACROSS THIS WHOLE PLAN.

IT COULD BE INSTEAD OF BUY, IT COULD BE BEGINNING.

BECAUSE IT NEVER SHOULD GO AWAY, THE COMMUNITY WILL HAVE A BETTER UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT THE COUNTY IS PROVIDING AND WHY THAT IS IMPORTANT. IN SIMPLEST TERMS.

>> EVERYONE, THAT IS A COMMON THEME WITHIN A GOOD GOVERNANCE STRUCTURE FOR WHATEVER THE AREA OF FOCUS NEEDS TO BE.

>> DONE IN FACILITY.

>> NOT JUST THIS.

WHEN YOU BUILD THE BUILDINGS, YOU NEED TO BE DOING THAT, TELL THEM WHY YOU'RE DOING IT.

>> IF WE'RE TALKING ABOUT A JAIL, THE JAIL DISTRICT AND SOMETHING'S GOING ON THERE, YOU BETTER TELL THEM WHY THAT'S IMPORTANT AND WHY THEY SHOULD CARE.

OPEN SPACE, SAME THING, BECAUSE EVERYBODY'S NOT GOING TO CARE ABOUT THE THINGS THAT WE MAY CARE ABOUT.

WE GOT TO TELL THEM WHY THEY SHOULD CARE ABOUT THAT.

WHY THAT'S IMPORTANT.

>> WE ARE GOING TO BRING IN A BETTER EXPERIENCE OF YAVAPAI COUNTY, AN EXPERIENCE OF YAVAPAI COUNTY THAT IS MOVING FORWARD IN THE TIMES THAT WE ARE DEALING WITH.

>> BRING IN OURSELVES UP TO THE STANDARDS THAT ARE DEMANDED FROM THE COMMUNITY AND THE POPULATION THAT WE NOW HAVE DEVELOPED ALONG WITH THE POPULATION THAT WILL BE COMING AS WELL, THE FUTURE POPULATION.

>> GOING BACK REAL QUICK TO WHAT WAS TALKED ABOUT ABOUT THIS IDEA OF LIVABLE WAGE JOBS AND SUBCONTRACTORS AND THIS KIND OF THING.

ONE OF THE THINGS WE'VE SEEN IN OTHER PLACES, AND I HEARD SOME LANGUAGE, AND I WANTED TO JUST THROW IT OUT TO YOU SAYS, BY 20XX THROUGH REGIONAL ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT APPROACH, YAVAPAI COUNTY, WORKING WITH ITS PARTNER COMMUNITIES WILL FACILITATE THE INCREASE OF LIVABLE WAGE JOBS THROUGH THE RECRUITMENT OF TARGETED INDUSTRIES AND SUBCONTRACTORS.

YOU HAVE TARGETED INDUSTRIES, YOU KNOW WHAT THEY ARE OR SHOULD KNOW WHAT THEY ARE.

>> NO.

>> AND SMALL BUSINESSES.

>> ABSOLUTELY. WHATEVER LANGUAGE WE NEED TO USE, BUT THROUGH COOPERATION WITH YOUR OTHER COMMUNITIES, YOU'RE GOING TO FACILITATE THE INCREASE OF LIVABLE WAGE JOBS.

IF THEY'RE NOT LIVABLE WAGE, THEY WERE SHIPWRECKED.

ANYWAY, THAT'S JUST A THOUGHT.

>> THAT SOUNDS LIKE YES, TO YOUR POINT BECAUSE THEN WE'RE COMPOUNDING OUR HOUSING PROBLEM.

>> WELL, IN TO NIKKI'S POINT TOO, THOUGH WE'RE NOT LOOKING FOR THOUSAND EMPLOYEES, 10,000.

WE'RE LOOKING FOR THE 20S, THE 30S, THE 50S, AND THE SMALL BUSINESSES THAT I THINK WILL THRIVE IF YOU GET THOSE 20,30S AND 50S.

>> DO YOU WANT TO INCLUDE THE ENTREPRENEURIAL PIECE

[07:30:03]

THERE AS WELL WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT OPPORTUNITIES WE'RE BUILDING?

>> AT THE END OF THERE, YOU COULD SAY, THROUGH THE RECRUITMENT OF TARGETED INDUSTRIES, SUBCONTRACTORS, SMALL BUSINESS AND ENTREPRENEURS.

BUT THE IDEA IS, YOU'VE GOT TO MAKE ENOUGH TO MAKE A LIVING AND LIVE HERE AND GENERATE YOUR NEXT DAY.

GET ME WRITE IT UP AND SEE HOW IT SHAKES.

I'LL LEAVE. LET ME PUT MY MICROPHONE ON.

>> ACTUALLY I WON'T SAY ANYTHING. [BACKGROUND]

>> AS I SAY, BOY, THAT ONE WAS FAST.

>> YOU KNOW ME WE'RE ALREADY DONE.

>> WELL, FOR WHAT?

>> [INAUDIBLE] IS TO ONE [LAUGHTER]

>> SAY.

>> I'LL SAY.

>> I DIDN'T SAY THAT'S WHY IT WAS FAST.

[LAUGHTER] WELL, HE'S WRITING THAT.

>> YOUR GOING TO DO MORE.

>> NO.

>> WHILE HE'S WRITING, I'M NOT EXTENDING, I'M GOING TO GO BACK TO WHAT SUPERVISOR KUGNEO SHARED.

JUST TO PROVIDE SOME ADDITIONAL INFORMATION.

DOCTOR RYAN AND I ARE SCHEDULING THIS WEEK A TIME TO GET TOGETHER TO TALK ABOUT IT.

BUT I WANT TO BE CLEAR WHAT I THINK SHE AND I ARE TALKING ABOUT IS, AGAIN, COUNTY NOT STEPPING IN AND TAKING OVER ANYTHING, BUT THE COUNTY COMING TO THE TABLE TO PROVIDE SOME FACILITATION AND CONVENING.

I THINK WHAT SHE AND I ARE ENVISIONING IS WE'VE GOT LOTS OF DIFFERENT PIECES DOING GOOD WORK ON REGIONAL ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT ISSUES, BUT WE'RE NOT BRINGING THEM TOGETHER IN A COORDINATED STRATEGY TO ADDRESS THE ISSUES.

AGAIN, BOTH EAST AND WEST, SO THAT'S WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT.

>> I THINK THE IMPORTANT THING IS IT LEAVES EVERYBODY'S ENGINE ALONE.

IT JUST GETS THEM WORKING TOGETHER, BECAUSE THAT'S THE PIECE THAT WE'VE ALWAYS BEEN MISSING.

IT CHANGES LIVES, AND WE NEED TO BE DOING IT WITH ALL THE SERVICES THAT CAN BE PROVIDED FROM THESE DIFFERENT PROVIDERS FOR WORKFORCE TRAINING.

THAT'S WHAT THE COLLEGE DOES.

THEY TRAIN A WORKFORCE.

THE ECONOMIC ENGINES FROM BOTH SIDES OF THE HILL.

YOU KNOW WHAT, WHEN ONE LANDS SOMEWHERE, WE NEED TO JUST HOLD EVERYBODY'S HAND UP.

THAT'S ANOTHER THING WE HAVE NOT DONE WELL.

>> I ALSO AGREE WITH YOU. I THINK WE ARE PRIMED FOR COOPERATION.

I THINK PEOPLE ARE WANTING TO COME TOGETHER AND FIGURE THIS OUT AND WORK TOGETHER, LIKE THEY HAVE THEM BEFORE.

>> I WROTE WHAT WE WERE TALKING ABOUT, AND IT SAYS, BY 20XX THROUGH A REGIONAL ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT APPROACH, YAVAPAI COUNTY, WORKING WITH ITS PARTNER COMMUNITIES, WILL WORK TO INCREASE THE NUMBER OF LIVABLE WAGE JOBS THROUGH THE RECRUITMENT OF TARGETED INDUSTRIES, SUBCONTRACTORS, SMALL BUSINESS, AND ENTREPRENEURS.

>> ONE FINAL THOUGHT TO SUPERVISOR COMPTON'S COMMENT ABOUT BEING IN A POSITION TO PULL THE SUBCONTRACTORS UP.

I CAN'T REMEMBER WHICH ONE OF OUR CITY TOWN MANAGERS CONTACTED ME JUST LAST WEEK ON THAT VERY TOPIC.

WE TALKED ABOUT THE NEED FOR BUILDINGS.

WE HAVE NO SPEC BUILDINGS.

WE'RE NOT IN A POSITION TODAY TO BRING THEM UP.

THAT'S SOMETHING ELSE WE NEED TO BE LOOKING AT.

WE'RE READY TO GO WHEN ONE COMES KNOCKING ON THE DOOR TO LOOK AT US.

>> LET'S GET TO THE PRIVATE SECTOR AND GET THEM TO BUILD IT FOR US.

LET'S JUST MAKE IT AS EASY AS POSSIBLE FOR THEM TO DO THAT.

>> IS THERE SOMETHING IN THAT WE CAN DO BESIDES THE TWO WORKINGS? YAVAPAI COUNTY WORKING PARTNERS WILL WORK.

>> THERE'S ALWAYS ONE IN THE ROOM THAT'S OUR ENGLISH, AND WE CAN.

I GET YOU. WE'LL WORD SMITH THAT FOR YOU.

>> TO THIS POINT ABOUT THE SPEC BUILDING, DEE WAS JUST TELLING ME SHE SAW IT WORK IN HER AREA.

WE SAW IT WORK IN OUR AREA.

WE HAD A GUY BUILD A BUILDING.

IT WAS EMPTY. IT WAS A GIANT SHELL, PROBABLY 20,000 SQUARE FOOT.

IT SAT THERE EMPTY FOR THE LONGEST TIME, AND THEN LOCKHEED MARTIN CAME IN AND FILLED IT WITH JOBS THAT BACK THEN PAID $80,000 A YEAR.

THEIR THEIR MODEL CHANGED.

THEY MOVED OUT, BUT NOW THE AMAZON DISTRIBUTION CENTER IS IN THIS VERY BUILDING.

PEOPLE DON'T WANT TO COME HERE, GO THROUGH ALL OF OUR PERMITTING, BUILD A PLACE.

THEY WANT TO MOVE IN AND GO TO WORK.

I THINK AND I DON'T KNOW, DEE, YOU CAN MAYBE TALK ABOUT WHAT YOU SAW BECAUSE I THINK IT'S GREAT.

>> WHAT WE FIRST DID IS IDENTIFY THE ZONING AREAS THAT IT WOULD BE APPLICABLE TO.

THEN THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT DIRECTOR REACHED OUT TO BUSINESSES AND JUST JUST GOT THE WORD OUT, GOT THE BUILDING BUILT, HAD FOUR DIFFERENT BAYS, AND IT WAS FILLED WITHIN NO TIME AT ALL.

BUT IT WAS IN A LOCATION.

IT'S ALL ABOUT LOCATION AT THAT I 17260 CORRIDOR.

IT CAN HAPPEN, AND IT WAS FAIRLY QUICK, TOO.

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>> I HAVE TWO SUGGESTIONS THAT CAN MAYBE MIRROR SOME OF THE WORK THAT WE'VE ALREADY DONE, AS FAR AS USING THE CODES AND ACTIVE PARTNERSHIPS AND ADVOCACY.

LIKE THAT LANGUAGE WORKS FOR THIS ITEM AS WELL.

IN ADDITION, WE'VE WRITTEN SOMETHING ABOUT THE COMMUTER EXPERIENCE.

IT MIGHT BE PERTINENT TO WRITE SOMETHING ABOUT THE TRANSIT EXPERIENCE.

I HEARD CHAIR MALLORY SPEAK TO THAT POINT.

SUPERVISOR JENKINS AND I IN OUR TRANSPORTATION PLANNING ORGANIZATION MEETING HEARD AT LENGTH, THAT THERE'S SOME MAJOR GAPS THERE AND THAT OUR TRANSIT SYSTEM IS NOT BEING LEVERAGED TO PROMOTE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.

IT'S BEING USED, IN THIS MARGINALIZED WAY BY COMMUTERS MONDAY THROUGH FRIDAY, AND NOT REALLY LEVERAGING THE OPPORTUNITY FOR OUR VISITORS.

RESIDENTS AND VISITORS, THAT'S ANOTHER SUGGESTION OF LANGUAGE THAT WE'VE ALREADY DEVELOPED, I THINK IS RELEVANT TO THIS CONVERSATION.

>> GREAT POINT, AND JUST REMIND YOU BACK TO THE COMMUNITY SURVEY RESULTS, HOW STRONG A SENTIMENT THAT WAS THERE.

>> SHALL WE WORK ON A GOAL FOR TRANSIT?

>> WELL, I THINK WE HAVE SIMPLE KIND OF DOING THAT.

>> WELL, THE WHOLE COUNTY DOESN'T.

>> THE WHOLE COUNTY ISN'T.

>> NACO IS DOING A TRANSIT PLAN, BUT WHAT ARE THEY GOING TO DO WITH THAT PLAN? BASICALLY, WE COULD SAY THAT WE WANT TO SUPPORT THE USER EXPERIENCE INFORMED BY THE MASTER TRANSIT PLAN.

>> I WOULD JUST CAUTION MY FELLOW SUPERVISORS WHEN IT COMES TO TRANSIT.

I'VE NEVER SEEN A PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION SYSTEM THAT HASN'T HEMORRHAGED CASH.

GO AHEAD, GIVE IT A SHOT ON.

IT'S JUST PUTTING OURSELVES IN THAT BOX WHERE I JUST DON'T WANT TO BE AROUND THE FUNDING OF IT.

I'M HAPPY TO SUPPORT IT, BUT NOT FUNDING IT.

>> IT'S HEAVILY DEPENDENT ON FEDERAL FUNDING, AND IF THAT GOES AWAY, ARE WE GOING TO DO IT OR ARE WE GOING TO BUILD SHERIFF STATIONS?

>> EXACTLY.

>> I HAVE SEEN IT REALLY WORK.

THE ONLY WAY THAT IT WORKS FINANCIALLY IS WHEN YOU LEVERAGE IT FOR YOUR VISITING TOURIST POPULATION.

WE HAVE FAILED TO DO THAT.

SEDONA HAS DONE THAT IN A BRILLIANT WAY, AND THEY NEED TO DO THAT BECAUSE THEY HAVE ALSO THE WORST TRAFFIC CONGESTION.

THEY HAVE THIS PRESSURE THAT'S FORCED THEM DOWN THIS ROAD, BUT IT'S ABSOLUTELY BUILDING AN OPPORTUNITY FOR SOMEONE TO COME VISIT.

IDEALLY, JUST IMAGINE THIS, YOU'RE IN LA, YOU DON'T OWN A CAR.

YOU WANT TO GET OUT OF THE CITY.

YOU JUMP ON THE TRAIN, GET OFF AND FLAGSTAFF, HAVE A SHUTTLE TAKE YOU INTO SEDONA, AND THEN YOU HAVE TRANSIT TO YOUR TRAILHEADS, AND YOU HAVE ON DEMAND TRANSIT TO THE RESTAURANT YOU WANT TO GO TO THAT.

ONE PIECE AWAY THAT SHUTTLE IS THE ONLY THING THAT'S MISSING IN THAT SYSTEM THAT SOMEONE CAN ACTUALLY VISIT WITHOUT A CAR AND TOTALLY CONTRIBUTE TO YOUR ECONOMY.

THAT'S HAPPENING IN SEDONA.

PRESCOTT HAS A TOURISM POPULATION.

VERDE VALLEY HAS A LOT OF FESTIVALS.

THERE'S THINGS THAT JUST AREN'T BEING LEVERAGED THAT ALREADY ARE IN EXISTENCE TODAY LIKE OUR YAVAPAI APACHE NATION LINE, THE YAVA LINE? COULD WE LEVERAGE THE PLACES WHERE THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENTS ALREADY INVESTED TO CREATE REGIONAL ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.

I'M NOT SAYING THAT WE HAVE TO JUST SHOVEL CASH OUT, BUT THERE'S OPPORTUNITIES TO BE SMART ABOUT WHAT WE ALREADY HAVE AND HOW TO LEVERAGE IT FOR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.

>> I THINK WE'RE TALKING TWO SEPARATE THINGS THERE I THINK WITH TOURIST ANGLE.

YOU GOT THAT GOING ON, BUT I THINK WE'RE TALKING ABOUT GETTING PEOPLE TO WORK AND GETTING PEOPLE TO MEDICAL SERVICES AND GETTING PEOPLE TO SCHOOLS.

I CAN SEE HOW IT COULD ALL TIE IN TOGETHER.

COULD THE TOURIST STUFF SUPPORT THE OTHER ATTEMPTS.

I THINK WHEN YOU USE FEDERAL MONEY, IT COMES WITH FEDERAL STRINGS, WHICH SCREWS UP TRANSIT, BECAUSE NOW THE BUS HAS TO DEVIATE A QUARTER MILE TO PICK UP ANYBODY THAT ASKED FOR IT.

WELL, IF FRED GETS ON THE BUS AT EIGHT AND HAS TO BE TO WORK AT 8:30, HE CAN'T GO PICK UP MRS. SMITH, WHERE THEY PULL UP, HAVE TO GET HER IN THEIR WHEELCHAIR, LOAD HER UP, AND IT'S A NECESSARY THING.

BUT NOW FRED'S GETTING TO WORK AT 8:45.

THAT'S THE MISSING PART.

>> WELL, I'M NOT PRETENDING TO BE A TRANSIT EXPERT.

I'M NOT A VERY MUCH SO NOT.

I JUST KNOW THAT THAT NEKOG, AND I'M SURE SIMPO HAS THE INTENTION OF PUTTING A PLAN TOGETHER TO STUDYING THIS EFFORT.

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IT'S SOMETHING THAT'S BEEN HIGHLY REFLECTED IN OUR COMMUNITY'S DESIRE FOR THE COUNTY TO PARTICIPATE IN.

I'M NOT SAYING THE EXTENT THAT WE HAVE TO PARTICIPATE IN IT, BUT IT MIGHT BE WORTH OUR WHILE TO SAY THAT WE WANT TO HAVE A DISCUSSION THAT'S INFORMED AND SUPPORTIVE, WHETHER IT'S STRATEGICALLY SUPPORTIVE OR COMMUNICATIONS.

A BIG PROBLEM THAT WE HEARD WAS THAT PEOPLE JUST DON'T HAVE A MECHANISM TO GET THE WORD OUT.

WHERE ARE THE BUS SCHEDULES PUBLISHED? THERE'S SOME COOPERATIVE EFFORTS THAT DON'T REQUIRE FUNDING THAT IF WE WERE STRATEGICALLY INVESTED IN, WE COULD MOVE THE NEEDLE ON.

>> I WAS JUST GOING TO MENTION THAT AS WELL WITH THE YAVAPAI-APACHE NATION EITHER REDUCING OR COMPLETELY DISCONTINUING THEIR TRANSIT OVER HERE TO THE PRESCOTT SIDE BECAUSE IT'S JUST NOT BEING UTILIZED.

WE TALKED ABOUT, LIKE NIKKI SAYS, GETTING THE INFORMATION OUT AND COMMUNICATING WHAT THE SCHEDULES ARE AND HAVING RELIABLE SCHEDULES.

THE OTHER PIECE WITH THE TRANSIT THAT I WANT TO ADD IS IF WE HAD EFFECTIVE TRANSIT ON TIME THAT PEOPLE COULD COUNT ON AND KNOW WHAT THE SCHEDULE IS, THROUGHOUT THE ENTIRE DISTRICT, THAT HELPS WITH ALLEVIATING TRANSPORTATION ISSUES.

I DON'T KNOW HOW TO TIE THAT IN, BUT IT JUST MAKES SENSE TO ME, IF YOU INCREASE TRANSIT AVAILABILITY, IT IMPACTS TRANSPORTATION AS A WHOLE.

>> YEAH. I THINK THAT'S A GOOD POINT.

THE VERDE VALLEY IS CONSTANTLY COMPLAINING THAT THEY'RE DISCONNECTED FROM PRESCOTT AS THE COUNTY SEAT, AND THE COUNTY HAS INVESTED IN THOSE CONVERSATIONS FROM THE PERSPECTIVE OF PEOPLE WHO HAVE COURT DATES THAT NEED TO BE OVER HERE OR NEED TO GET A CERTAIN PERMIT FROM THE COUNTY SEAT VERSUS OUR SATELLITE OFFICES.

THIS SERVICE WAS OPENED UP AND NOBODY KNEW ABOUT IT ENOUGH.

NOW THEY ARE STILL RUNNING IT, BUT ON DEMAND, WHICH CREATES INCONSISTENCIES AND UNRELIABILITY.

YOU'RE NOT TOTALLY SURE IF THAT'S GOING TO WORK OR NOT.

PEOPLE THINK THAT YOU HAVE TO BE A PART OF THE TRIBE TO USE THAT TRANSIT, WHICH ISN'T ALSO TRUE.

BUT IF WE WERE TO ENGAGE OUR CRIMINAL JUSTICE SYSTEM AND HAVING SOME INFORMATION, AND THERE'S A LOT OF OPPORTUNITIES THERE.

PLUS WITH THE TRAFFIC CONGESTION BETWEEN THE VILLAGE OF OAK CREEK AND SEDONA, THERE'S NOT ANY DIRECT PLANS FORMULATING TO CHANGE THE 179 RIGHT NOW IN ITS CURRENT FORM.

THE ONLY WAY TO REALLY POSITIVELY IMPACT THAT SITUATION VERY DIRECTLY ON THE 179 IS THROUGH TAKING CARS OFF THE ROAD AND PUTTING TRANSIT ON.

I THINK THERE'S A LOT OF ANGLES THERE AND WE DON'T HAVE TO UNDERSTAND OUR LEVEL OF FISCAL SUPPORT AT THIS POINT, BUT I SEE ENOUGH MATERIAL HERE TO HAVE SOME STRONG THOUGHT PROCESS.

>> I REALLY THINK WHAT I'M HEARING HERE IS THE SAME THING THAT YOU HAD MENTIONED A LITTLE WHILE AGO ABOUT WHAT DO WE WANT? WHAT DO WE WANT OUR COMMUNITY, OUR CONSTITUENTS KNOW? I HAD SAID COMMUNICATION.

WHAT I'M SAYING IS THAT EVEN IF WE DID SOME TYPE OF DIALOGUE OR REPORT, HEY, DID YOU KNOW THIS, DID YOU KNOW THAT? I THINK SIMPO, YOU'RE ON THE EXECUTIVE BOARD.

I THINK THEY DO A GOOD OUTREACH.

I WENT ON THE APP AND GOT THE YAVL LINE ON SUNDAY, LIKE I WAS SAYING.

BUT WHAT IS THAT? AGAIN, IT'S A PARTNERSHIP.

ANY LITTLE THING THAT WE CAN CONTRIBUTE HELPS, EVEN IN COMMUNICATION.

PEOPLE DON'T KNOW WHAT THEY DON'T KNOW.

I'M TELLING YOU IF YOU THINK THAT YOU MAY THINK, AND I THINK THIS, I'M NOT GOING TO SAY THAT BECAUSE I'M SURE THEY ALREADY KNOW THAT.

YOU KNOW WHAT? I SAY IT NOW BECAUSE I'M COMING TO FIND OUT THEY DON'T KNOW THAT.

DON'T ASSUME THAT EVERYBODY KNOWS WHAT'S GOING ON BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT KNOWING IT.

EVEN COMMUNICATION IS HELPFUL.

WE DON'T HAVE TO BUILD ANOTHER TRANSPORTATION AND WE DON'T HAVE TO FUND IT, BUT WE CAN SURELY HELP COMMUNICATE AND HELP SUPPORT AND PROMOTE AND BUILD UP WHAT WE ALREADY HAVE.

WE COULD DO THAT. ALL THAT TAKES IS HEART, DESIRE, AND WILL TO MOVE IT FORWARD.

>> ONCE AGAIN, WE HAVE A VERY SCATTERED TRANSPORTATION MODEL THAT EVERYONE'S USING.

YOU GOT THIS GROUP TRANSPORTING THIS GROUP.

IF WE CAN BRING THEM TOGETHER, WHAT YOU NEED IS A MAIN LINE DOWN MAIN STREETS WITH EVERYBODY ELSE BRINGING THEM TO THE MAIN LINE.

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YOU CAN BE CONSISTENT, YOU BRING UP CONSISTENCY.

THAT'S WHAT MAKES IT WORK.

THEN YOU HAVE NEW HORIZONS BRINGING THEIR PEOPLE TO THE MAIN LINE.

YOU HAVE THE VA BRINGING THEIR PEOPLE HERE.

BUT IT'S REALLY HARD TO GET THAT ALL TO WORK, BUT I THINK IT'S POSSIBLE.

>> THE OTHER THING, IF NO ONE KNOWS, YAVL LINE, IF YOU GET THE YAVL LINE, IT'S A DEMAND ON DEMAND.

LET'S SAY THEY PICK ME AND KIRK UP AND TAKE US UP TO HOME DEPOT.

WELL, WE GO UP TO HOME DEPOT AND WE DO WHATEVER IT IS, WE GOT TO DO THERE.

YOU CAN ACTUALLY CONNECT WHAT I SAW ON THERE, IF I READ IT CORRECTLY, CONNECT AND YOU CAN GET OUT TO CHINO VALLEY.

A LOT OF PEOPLE DON'T KNOW THIS AND SO THE COMMUNICATION.

I KNOW SIMPO DOES A GREAT JOB, BUT WE ARE A PARTNER OF SIMPO.

WHY NOT? WE DO NEWSLETTERS.

SUPERVISORS DO NEWSLETTERS.

I'M TELLING YOU, JUST THROW A LITTLE BLURB IN THERE THAT SAYS, HEY, DID YOU KNOW YOU CAN CATCH YAVL LINE.

IF YOU'RE LIVING IN PRESCOTT VALLEY, YOU CAN GO UP TO HOME DEPOT AND THEN YOU COULD CONNECT INTO YEAH PI REGIONAL, WHAT'S IT CALLED?

>> PI REGIONAL TRANSIT.

>> THEN YOU CAN GO TO CHINO VALLEY AND THAT CREATES MONEY.

>> THEY HAVE A HUB.

>> THEY'VE DEVELOPED A HUB DOWN AT ACROSS FROM MURPHY'S.

>> WELL, IF THIS IS WORTH WRITING A GOAL AROUND, IT'S REALLY IF WE'RE GOING TO ACTUALLY IMPACT THE EXPERIENCE.

I THINK EVEN IF WE ONLY FOCUSED ON THE SINGULAR ASPECT OF COMMUNICATION, WE WOULD POSITIVELY IMPACT THAT EXPERIENCE.

I THINK IT'S WORTH WRITING A GOAL.

>> I THINK SIMPOS ALREADY ON IT, THOUGH.

>> BUT SIMPO DOES NOT COVER ALL OF YAVAPAI COUNTY.

>> WELL, IT SHOULD.

>> WELL, WE WON'T MAKE THAT A GOAL RIGHT NOW, BUT WE DEFINITELY COMMUNICATE.

>> WE JUST REVERSED THE Y.

>> THEN IT'S DONE. IS THAT WHAT YOU WANT TO DO?

>> I THINK TO REITERATE.

I THINK IF THE GOAL IS ABOUT COMMUNICATION, THAT'S GOOD.

I THINK THE THE CHALLENGE SOMETIMES, IF YOU JUST SAY, WELL, IT'S ABOUT COMMUNICATION, WE'LL COMMUNICATE IT.

UNLESS IT'S IN THE PLAN, SOMETIMES WE GET BUSY AND WE FORGET.

IF YOU DO FEEL LIKE COMMUNICATING WHAT'S AVAILABLE, BEING THAT COMMUNICATOR ROLE, THEN THE QUESTION IS, AGAIN, WE HEAR A LOT OF TIMES IN THESE, WELL, ALL WE GOT TO DO IS JUST TELL FOLKS WHAT IT IS.

THEN YOU ADJOURN THESE MEETINGS.

IF IT'S NOT A GOAL, THEN THE QUESTION IS, DID SOMEBODY HEAR THAT, AND IS SOMEBODY GOING TO TAKE THAT ON? USUALLY SOMEBODY'S TOO BUSY, THEY GOT OTHER THINGS TO DO.

I WOULD ENCOURAGE YOU IF YOU WANT TO HAVE THAT COMMUNICATION, THEN THE QUESTION IS, IS IT SOMETHING WHERE YOU THROUGH FACILITATING AN INTEGRATED LOOK AT TRANSIT ACROSS SHAVA PIKE COUNTY.

THE COUNTY WILL WORK TO COMMUNICATE.

>> I FEEL I WOULD LIKE TO KEEP IT SIMPLE BECAUSE COMMUNICATION IS ONE ASPECT, BUT THERE'S PROBABLY MORE WE COULD DO.

I WOULD USE THE LANGUAGE THAT WE HAD FOR THE OTHER TRANSPORTATION ITEM.

WE'LL WORK TO IMPROVE THE TRANSIT EXPERIENCE AS INFORMED BY TRANSIT PLANS AND OUR COMMUNITY PARTNERS.

>> WHO'S GOING TO WORK ON IT?

>> I WILL IN IN MY VERDE VALLEY TRANSPORTATION PLANNING ORGANIZATION.

I'M SURE SIMPO WILL, AND NEKOG PROBABLY COULD FACILITATE OTHER CONVERSATIONS OUTSIDE OF THE SIMPO AREA IN WESTERN YAVAPAI COUNTY.

>> TWO QUESTIONS FOR YOU REAL QUICK.

WHO WITHIN THE COUNTY GOVERNMENT, NOT ELECTED OFFICIALS? BECAUSE YOU GUYS ARE NOT IN THE IMPLEMENTATIONS.

WHO IN THE COUNTY ORGANIZATION WOULD RUN THIS ONE?

>> IF YOU'RE TALKING JUST ABOUT THE COMMUNICATIONS, OUR COMMUNICATION STAFF COULD HELP PROMOTE THAT.

>> THAT GOES ALSO VERY TRUE FOR THIS REGIONAL ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.

YOU GUYS ARE FACILITATING THESE PARTNERS COMING TOGETHER TO HAVE THIS APPROACH TO INCREASE LIVING WAGE.

WHO'S THE POINT OF CONTACT AT THE COUNTY? NOT THE SUPERVISOR.

WHO'S THE ORGANIZATIONAL CONTACT THAT'S GOING TO BE THE POINT OF CONTACT?

>> I WOULD SAY PEDRO RODRIGUEZ AND TODD MORRIS AT NEKOG, TWO INDIVIDUALS THAT WORK ON TRANSIT VERY SPECIFICALLY ON OUR BEHALF, BECAUSE IT'S OFTEN TIED TO FEDERAL FUNDING.

THEY'RE REALLY STRONG INITIAL PARTNERS.

>> BUT I WANT TO BE CLEAR WITH YOU GUYS, AND THIS IS AS GOOD AS TIME AS ANY.

YOU GUYS ARE SETTING POLICY. THESE ARE RESULTS.

WHEN IT COMES TO THE IMPLEMENTATION,

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YOU ALL ARE NOT IN THE WEEDS HERE.

YOU'VE GOT PROFESSIONAL STAFF THAT ARE GOING TO DEVELOP THE STEPS AND COME BACK TO YOU WITH THE PLAN TO IMPLEMENT.

NOW, YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO MAKE DECISIONS ALONG THE WAY, BUT YOU'RE NOT PROJECT MANAGERS.

YOU'RE COUNTY SUPERVISORS.

YOU'RE NOT DEPARTMENT DIRECTORS, YOU'RE COUNTY SUPERVISORS.

>> REPORT BACK.

>> BUT I JUST WANT TO BE CLEAR BECAUSE SOMETIMES WE WANT TO JUMP RIGHT INTO THE WEEDS AND START LAYING BRICK AND WHATEVER.

>> THE REPORT THAT WILL COME BACK TO YOU WILL BE ON PROGRESS. JUST TO BE CLEAR.

>> THAT MAY BE DIFFICULT SOMETIMES.

>> WELL, TO ANSWER DIRECTLY, JEREMY, YOUR QUESTION RIGHT NOW, THE REGIONAL ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT WILL FALL TO ME.

>> YOU HAVE A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF FREE TIME.

I'M BEING PRAGMATIC.

>> NO, I APPRECIATE THAT. THAT'S GOING TO BE BETWEEN 1:00 AND 2:00 A.M.

I'VE DRAFTED SOMETHING UP UP HERE.

>> GO AHEAD.

>> I'M BEING A LITTLE FACETIOUS THERE.

BUT IN ORDER TO GET THIS ONE STARTED, YES, I WILL BE DIRECTLY INVOLVED.

WE'LL SEE HOW IT GROWS AND WHAT THE BOARD'S APPETITE IS FOR WHERE IT MIGHT GO IN TERMS OF OUR ROLE THERE.

OBVIOUSLY, THERE WOULD NEED TO BE ADDITIONAL RESOURCES DEVOTED TO IT, IF IT MATURES AND GROWS, AND WE'VE GOT A VERY ACTIVE ROLE.

BUT RIGHT NOW IN THE DEVELOPMENT PHASE, IT'S ME AND THAT'S FINE.

AS YOU KNOW, FROM THE COMMENTS THAT WERE MADE, THE TOWN OF CITY MANAGERS ARE REALLY SUPPORTIVE OF THE COUNTY HELPING TO LEAD A REGIONAL ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT APPROACH.

>> EVERYONE, I WROTE SOMETHING UP HERE, REGARDING TRANSIT, WE WILL WORK TO IMPROVE THE PUBLIC'S EXPERIENCE OF TRANSIT THROUGH AN ACTIVE PARTNERSHIP AND COMMUNICATIONS STRATEGY.

>> THAT SEEMS TOO SPECIFIC.

LIKE, THAT SEEMS MORE OF AN IMPLEMENTATION PLAN THAN A STRATEGIC GOAL.

>> WELL, I HAD IT AT FIRST TO SAY WE WILL WORK TO IMPROVE THE PUBLIC'S EXPERIENCE OF TRANSIT.

>> I LIKE THAT BETTER.

>> WHAT DOES THAT MEAN?

>> MORE RELIABLE.

>> MORE EFFORTS.

>> CONSISTENT. MORE WHAT?

>> THAT SAYS WE'LL WORK.

THAT DOESN'T SAY WHAT THE IMPROVEMENT IN THE EXPERIENCE WILL BE.

>> IMPROVED EXPERIENCE.

WHAT DID WE WRITE WITH TRANSIT? WHAT DID WE WRITE OVER THERE? I CANNOT READ YOUR WRITING. I'M SORRY.

>> THAT'S OKAY.

>> BY 20 SOMETHING COLLABORATION WITH OUR PARTNERS, THE COUNTY WILL WORK TO IMPROVE NEARLY EXPERIENCE OF RESIDENTS. [INAUDIBLE]

>> I WANT TO USE THAT EXACT LANGUAGE AND JUST SAY, INSTEAD OF COMMUTING TRANSIT.

>> I THINK THE THING THAT WE NEED TO BE AWARE OF IN THIS IS THAT THE SKY IS THE LIMIT THERE.

AS A STATEMENT, THAT MEANS THAT'S SOUP TO NUTS.

BECAUSE THE TRANSIT EXPERIENCE FOR YOU MAY BE VERY DIFFERENT THAN THE TRANSIT EXPERIENCE FOR ME AND YOU AND YOU AND YOU.

PART OF THE IMPLEMENTATION PLAN ROADMAP WILL BE TO BRING FOLKS TOGETHER TO SAY, WHAT ARE THE AREAS THAT WE CAN BITE OFF AND REALLY INFLUENCE RELATIVE TO THE TRANSIT EXPERIENCE? BECAUSE JUST SAYING TRANSIT EXPERIENCE.

THAT'S A VERY BROAD STATEMENT.

THAT'S OKAY. BUT JUST ACKNOWLEDGING THAT AS WE DEVELOP THIS.

>> BOTH OF THESE GOALS WILL REQUIRE PERFORMANCE MEASURES.

>> I THINK NIKKI NEEDS TO PUT A YELLOW SIGN ON TOP OF HER SUPER.

>> I DON'T KNOW, DO WE NEED TO TIE THIS BACK MORE DIRECTLY TO REGIONAL ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT? BECAUSE THAT'S WHERE I'M GOING WITH IT.

IT'S CURRENTLY NOT LEVERAGE.

TRANSIT'S NOT LEVERAGE FOR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.

I THINK THERE'S A LOT OF OPPORTUNITY THERE.

SOME LOW HANGING FRUIT THERE.

>> ACTUALLY, TRANSITS TIE IN ITSELF INTO ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AT SIMPO THEY'RE TRYING TO PARTNER WITH DIFFERENT BUSINESSES TO HELP SPONSOR THE ROUTES FOR RIDES FOR THEIR EMPLOYEES.

THAT'S HAPPENING ALREADY.

>> EVEN JUST AS SMALL AS ORGANIZING EXTRA STAFFING FOR FESTIVALS OR EVENTS.

THERE'S LOW HANGING FRUIT HERE.

>> I THINK THE LAST PART OF IT REALLY TIES BACK TO THE BENEFITS TO BOTH RESIDENTS,

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BUT ALSO THE PLUS SIDE FOR THE VISITORS.

>> THE PARTNER.

>> BECAUSE SHE'S NOT KIDDING. WHEN SHE SAYS SEDONA AND OAK CREEK ARE OVERRUN I'M SAYING THEY'RE OVERRUN.

IT IS A MISERABLE EXPERIENCE GOING THROUGH THERE.

>> BUT PACE YOUR POINTS, YOU HAVE TO STRUGGLE A LITTLE TO TIE IT BACK TO ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT THE WAY IT'S CURRENTLY WRITTEN.

COULD YOU TALK ABOUT FOR OUR RESIDENTS THE TRANSPORTATION TO JOBS OR SOMETHING ALONG THOSE LINES?

>> WELL, THAT WOULD BE WHAT SHE WOULD NEED.

WHEN WE GET TOGETHER BACK IN A MONTH WITH THE GROUP OF EMPLOYEES, THEN THE QUESTION IS, FROM IMPROVING THE TRANSIT PERSPECTIVE FOR RESIDENTS, WHAT DOES THAT LOOK LIKE? WHAT DO WE NEED TO TRY TO INFLUENCE SO THAT THEY'RE BENEFITING.

THEN ON THE FLIP SIDE FOR VISITORS, WHAT DO WE NEED TO TRY TO INFLUENCE FOR THAT? AND TO MORROW'S POINT THIS CAN'T JUST BE WORKING HARD.

WE'VE GOT TO HAVE SOME INDICATORS THAT SAY, ARE WE MAKING A DIFFERENCE? MAYBE A LITTLE BIT OF DIFFERENCE IS GOOD.

THIS IS NOT EASY STUFF TO DO.

BUT BEING ABLE TO KNOW WHERE PROGRESS IS MADE IS GOING TO BE VERY IMPORTANT IN THIS PROCESS.

>> I CAN REALLY SEE SOME REAL SPECIFIC OUTCOMES THERE.

WE HELPED PROVIDE TRANSIT FOR THIS NUMBER OF FESTIVALS THAT BROUGHT THIS MANY PEOPLE AND IT'LL TAKE WORK, BUT THAT'S WHY I WANT TO SEE THIS GOAL ON HERE BECAUSE I THINK THE WORK WILL BE FRUITFUL.

>> AND THE ONE THING THAT TRANSIT DOES DO IS THEY TRACK THE RIDERSHIP REALLY SOLIDLY.

>> DO YOU WANT TO DO SOMETHING WITH THIS TEMPLATE TO TIE IT MORE CLOSELY BACK TO JOBS OR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT?

>> BECAUSE IT'S UNDER THE HEADING OF REGIONAL ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, I'M NOT UNCOMFORTABLE LEAVING IT AS IT IS.

I MIGHT SUGGEST THAT SAME LANGUAGE THAT I REALLY LIKED THAT SUPERVISOR JENKINS, AND WE ALL PUT TOGETHER FOR THE HOUSING AS IT PERTAINS TO REGIONAL ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AS WELL.

OUR ZONING OUR COUNTY CODES, ACTIVE PARTNERS AND ADVOCATES, WHATEVER LANGUAGE.

>> ADVOCACY.

>> ADVOCACY. YEAH. THAT I THOUGHT LANGUAGE WAS REALLY PERTINENT TO THIS TOPIC AS WELL.

>> DO YOU WANT TO STAY WITH THAT?

>> WE ARE GOING TO GO AHEAD AND GO TO LUNCH AND THEN WE'LL BE BACK IN A HALF AN HOUR, LET'S SAY, 12:30.

THEN WE'RE GOING TO, I GUESS, A RECAP OF EVERYTHING WE DID.

>> YES, MA'AM. THAT'S CORRECT.

AND WHAT WE'LL DO IS WE'LL DO A REVIEW.

WE'LL TALK ABOUT WHERE WE'RE AT, HOW PEOPLE FEEL OR MISS ANYTHING.

JUST MAKING SURE WE'VE GOT THE TIME AND THEN WHEN WE GET TO THAT POINT WHERE WE FEEL GOOD, WE'LL REVIEW AGAIN WHAT WE HAVE, AND WE'LL DISCUSS NEXT STEPS.

SO AGAIN, THERE'S AN UNDERSTANDING OF, HEY, THIS IS NOT IT.

THIS IS REALLY JUST THE BEGINNING.

AND WE'LL GO FROM THERE, MADAM CHAIR.

>> THANK YOU EVERYBODY.

LUNCHTIME. WELCOME BACK, EVERYBODY.

LUNCH WAS GREAT. WE APPRECIATE IT VERY MUCH THAT MR. THOMPSON. YEAH, IT WAS GREAT.

IN FACT, WE THINK THAT WE JUST WANT THAT TO BE OUR ONGOING LUNCH.

YEAH. ABSOLUTELY. I'M LIKING IT.

ALL OF IT. IT WAS PERFECT.

SO JUST DELIVER THAT MENU, AND LIFE WILL BE WONDERFUL.

WE ARE READY TO ENTER INTO THE FINAL OF THIS PROCESS.

OF COURSE, IT'S NOT FINAL FINAL, BUT FINAL FOR TODAY.

>> THANK YOU, CHAIR. WHAT I'D LIKE TO DO IS JUST FIRST OF ALL, DO A REVIEW OF AGAIN, WHAT WE'VE DONE.

I DO A LOT OF THESE REVIEWS, BUT I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE ALWAYS CHECK OURSELVES ALONG THE WAY, BECAUSE WE'VE DONE A LOT OF GOOD WORK, AND I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO REMEMBER THAT.

WE STARTED OFF REALLY LOOKING AT INFRASTRUCTURE.

WE HAVE THREE STRATEGIC RESULTS RELATED TO INFRASTRUCTURE.

AND WE LISTED A NUMBER OF BUILDINGS FROM THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE TO GER, I THINK, FAIR STREET AND OTHERS.

WE'VE GOT ONE THAT ALSO TALKS ABOUT BUILDINGS, BUT ALSO FOR RURAL RESIDENTS SO THAT THEY CAN EFFICIENTLY ACCESS QUALITY COUNTY SERVICES.

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AND THEN THE THIRD ONE UNDER INFRASTRUCTURE IS WHERE WE REALLY TALKED ABOUT IMPROVING THE COMMUTING EXPERIENCE, AND WE WERE REALLY TALKING ABOUT TRAFFIC AND CONGESTION IN THAT REGARD.

YESTERDAY AFTERNOON, WE SHIFTED OUR FOCUS TO WATER AND OPEN SPACE, AND WE TALKED ABOUT WORKING WITH OUR PARTNERS TO DEVELOP STRATEGIES AND GOALS TO POSITIVELY IMPACT WATER RESOURCES IN OPEN SPACE.

AND THEN WE DID A SPECIFIC RESULT RELATED TO DEVELOPING A PLAN FOR OPEN SPACE FOR THE COMMUNITY.

THIS MORNING, WE HAD A CONVERSATION AT THE BEGINNING WITH OUR ELECTED SHERIFF, PROVIDING INPUT AND INFORMATION INTO THE PROCESS.

FROM THAT, WE DEVELOPED ONE PARTICULAR STRATEGIC RESULT RELATED TO WORKING WITH MUNICIPAL PARTNERS AND OTHER ORGANIZATIONS.

THE COUNTY WILL WORK TO DEVELOP A REGIONAL APPROACH TO 911 EMERGENCY COMMUNICATIONS, AND REALLY GOT GOOD CONSENSUS ON THAT.

WE MOVED INTO HOUSING AND THE STRATEGIC RESULT RELATED TO HOUSING SAYS THROUGH CODES, CODE UPDATES, ACTIVE PARTNERSHIPS AND ADVOCACY.

YAVAPAI COMMUNITY WILL EXPERIENCE A REDUCTION IN THE CURRENT HOUSING DEFICIT.

A MULTI PRONGED APPROACH.

WE MOVED INTO REGIONAL ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, AND I THINK WE HAVE TWO THERE.

THE FIRST IS THROUGH REGIONAL ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT APPROACH, YAVAPAI COUNTY IN CONJUNCTION WITH ITS PARTNER COMMUNITIES WORKED TO INCREASE THE NUMBER OF LIVABLE WAGE JOBS THROUGH THE RECRUITMENT OF TARGETED INDUSTRIES, SUBCONTRACTORS, SMALL BUSINESSES, AND ENTREPRENEURS.

IT TAKE A OF A NUMBER OF FACTORS THERE.

THEN, LAST BUT NOT LEAST, WE TALKED ABOUT BY 20 XX IN COLLABORATION WITH OUR PARTNERS, THE COUNTY WILL WORK TO IMPROVE THE TRANSIT EXPERIENCE FOR RESIDENTS AND VISITORS.

AS OF RIGHT NOW, THOSE ARE THE NINE STRATEGIC RESULTS THAT WE HAVE ACROSS THE CURRENT FIVE STRATEGIC PRIORITY AREAS.

>> I JUST WOULD LIKE TO THROW THIS OUT HERE.

WE TALK A LOT ABOUT AND I KNOW THE SUBJECTS COME UP A FEW TIMES IN THE LAST DAY AND A HALF.

BUT ALL OF THIS IS UNDER ONE THING AND THAT'S GOOD GOVERNANCE.

IF WE ARE GOOD GOVERNANCE, THEN WE WILL MAKE A LOT OF THESE THINGS HOPEFULLY COME TO FRUITION.

I LIKE THE WORD GOOD GOVERNANCE.

I LIKE THAT TITLE AND WHAT HAVE YOU AND FINANCING AND WHATEVER.

I JUST WANTED TO ASK IF ANYBODY ELSE HAS SOME INPUT ABOUT HAVING THAT AS SOME A TITLE.

IF WE COULD HAVE IT, WHERE COULD WE PUT IT? I FEEL LIKE THE COMMUNITY MIGHT LIKE THAT GOOD GOVERNANCE.

I'M JUST ASKING FOR A LITTLE INPUT.

>> MADAM CHAIR, BEFORE WE GO ON TO THAT CONVERSATION, THERE'S STILL A LITTLE BIT IN THE REGIONAL ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, BUT I THINK WE COULD GO QUICKLY IF WE TOOK THE LANGUAGE WITH OUR HOUSING INITIATIVE, BECAUSE WE WANT TO ALSO LEVERAGE OUR PARTNERSHIPS AND OUR CODE AND ADVOCACY FOR REGIONAL ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.

THINK ABOUT INDUSTRY.

THAT'S TIED TO LAND USE.

I JUST DIDN'T WANT TO MISS THAT OPPORTUNITY BECAUSE I THINK WE COULD QUICKLY TAKE THAT LANGUAGE AND LEVERAGE OUR ZONING ORDINANCE UPDATE PARTNERSHIP BUILDING EFFORTS AND ADVOCACY FOR THE RESULT OF IMPROVED REGIONAL ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AS WELL. JUST TO CLEAN THAT UP.

>> SUPERVISOR CHECK, ARE YOU PROPOSING TO AMEND THE VERBIAGE OF A CURRENT STRATEGIC RESULT OR ADD A SECONDARY?

>> ADD A SECONDARY, SO IT WOULD BE A THIRD GOAL UNDER REGIONAL ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.

I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT BECAUSE WE HAVE PEOPLE WHO WANT TO PARTNER WITH US.

I KNOW YAVAPAI COLLEGE'S REGIONAL ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT CENTER IS CREATING SOME PLANS.

WE ALREADY WORK WITH BB RIO.

AND THEN TO REALLY SUPERVISOR JENKINS POINT, THAT A LOT OF THE SAME WORK THAT WE'RE DOING IN THE ZONING ORDINANCE UPDATE IS PERTINENT HERE.

I THOUGHT I HEARD ALL OF THAT CONVERSATION, BUT MAYBE I DIDN'T.

IF IT'S NOT RESONATING, WE DON'T HAVE TO WRITE IT.

I JUST THOUGHT THAT THAT'S WHAT I HEARD EARLIER.

>> WHAT IS WORTH IS RESONATING FOR ME? I LIKE ADDING IT BECAUSE IT IS CONSISTENT WITH THE CONVERSATION WE HAD IN THE DIRECTION THAT WE INTEND TO GO.

>> QUESTION THAT I HAVE JUST SO THAT SO THAT I HAVE SOME CLARITY MYSELF.

SO THE ONE HERE THAT'S REALLY ABOUT THE REGIONAL CLOSE TO

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DEVELOPMENT REALLY FOCUSES ON LIVABLE WAGE JOBS BY TARGETING, I'D SAY, BIG BUSINESS, SMALL BUSINESS, SUBCONTRACTORS, ENTREPRENEURS.

WHAT YOU'RE SUGGESTING OR PROPOSING IS THAT THIS ONE IS ABOUT WORKING THROUGH CODES UPDATES, ACTIVE PARTNERSHIPS, AND ADVOCACY TO DO WHAT?

>> TO BRING IN TARGETED INDUSTRIES.

>> TO BRING IN. IS IT THE SAME MISSION? I GUESS.

>> IT'S NOT IS A DIFFERENT EXPERIENCE.

OKAY. YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? WELL, MAYBE IT IS.

IT'S JUST THAT LANGUAGE IS SO PERTINENT.

WE'RE ALREADY GOING TO BE DOING THE PROCESS OF LOOKING AT OUR ZONING OR CODE UPDATES AND OUR PARTNERSHIPS FOR THE SAKE OF HOUSING, WHICH HAS TIES TO REGIONAL ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.

THAT WE SHOULD ALSO USE THAT PROCESS AND THAT ANALYSIS TIME TO SEE HOW WE COULD LEVERAGE IT TOWARDS TARGETED INDUSTRIES PARTNERS. YOU DON'T KNOW.

>> I DON'T DISAGREE. I ACTUALLY, I AGREE 110%.

MY ONLY QUESTION IS, WHAT I DON'T WANT TO HAVE HAPPEN IS HAVE TWO RESULTS THAT ARE IMPLEMENTING THE SAME THING ON TWO PARALLEL PATHWAYS, BECAUSE TO YOUR POINT, THE CODES UPDATES AND THE ACTIVE PARTNERSHIPS AND ADVOCACY, THAT WORK HAS TO BE PART OF THIS IMPLEMENTATION PLAN, BECAUSE WITHOUT IT, YOU'RE NOT REALLY GOING TO BE ABLE TO GET AT THE TARGETED INDUSTRIES, THE SUBCONTRACTORS OR WHATEVER.

MY ONLY CONCERN IS THAT YOU HAVE TWO GOALS THAT ARE WORDED A LITTLE DIFFERENTLY THAT ARE REALLY DOING THE SAME THING ON PARALLEL PATHS.

THAT WOULD BE BASICALLY DUPLICATION OF EFFORT IS WHAT IT WOULD BE.

>> I JUST THINK YOU COULD READ THAT AND COMPLETELY FORGET TO LOOK AT THE ZONING ORDINANCE UPDATE AS A MECHANISM.

BUT AS LONG AS WE INCLUDE THAT AS A MECHANISM TO ACHIEVE THAT GOAL, I'M FINE WITH THAT.

BECAUSE LAND USE I DON'T THINK I HAVE TO EXPLAIN MYSELF THERE.

INDUSTRY IS ZONED A CERTAIN WAY.

THERE'S GOING TO BE OPPORTUNITIES FOR THE COUNTY TO SHIFT.

>> IF YOU DON'T HAVE SHOVEL READY LAND, YOU'RE NOT GOING TO BE BRINGING IN.

>> JUST THINKING THROUGH THIS BECAUSE I AGREE I LIKE WHERE THIS IS GOING, BUT I'M WONDERING WOULD THERE BE A WAY TO COMBINE HOUSING REGIONAL ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AND HOUSE THE LANGUAGE IN ONE STRATEGIC PRIORITY WITH THOSE GOALS MORE CLOSELY ALIGNED WITH EACH OTHER RATHER THAN BEING SEPARATE.

THAT WAY, WE WOULD HAVE MORE ROOM LIKE THE CHAIR WAS SAYING PRIOR FOR SOME CONVERSATION AROUND THE GOVERNANCE AND THE COMMUNICATIONS AND THE FINANCING PIECE, JUST THROWING THAT OUT THERE.

>> I DON'T KNOW. THERE'S OTHER ADVOCACY ISSUES LIKE THE MEAT PROCESSING PLANT THAT DIDN'T COME TO FRUITION.

THAT WAS AN ADVOCACY.

I SEE IT AS A DIFFERENT THING.

BUT THERE ARE THINGS THAT WE ARE DOING ANYWAY.

IF THERE'S NO NEED TO WRITE, THAT'S ANOTHER GOAL HERE, I'M FINE WITH THAT.

I DON'T THINK JEREMY'S GOING TO FORGET TO LOOK AT OPPORTUNITIES IN THE ZONING ORDINANCE UPDATE FOR INDUSTRY.

>> WELL, I THINK THAT'S THE KICKER.

IT'S WHEN WE GET INTO THE IMPLEMENTATION, NOT FORGETTING WHAT ARE THE KEY FACTORS TO GET YOU TO WHERE YOU WANT TO GO.

I KNOW FROM MY PERSPECTIVE, IF WE'RE NOT LOOKING AT CODES AND ACTIVE PARTNERSHIPS AND ADVOCACIES, WE WOULD ASK THAT QUESTION.

WHY ARE WE NOT TALKING ABOUT THIS IN OUR IMPLEMENTATION? NOW, AGAIN, WE HAVE NO ISSUE IF WE WANT TO MAKE THAT DISTINCTION BETWEEN THE TWO.

I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE NOT SHOOTING THE SAME TARGET.

AND THEN WE END UP SPENDING TWO HALF DAY SESSIONS WITH DEVELOPING THE SAME IMPLEMENTATION PLAN. THAT'S ALL.

>> I THINK IT'S THE OPPOSITE, YOU HAVE ONE PROCESS THAT'S TARGETING TWO STRATEGIC GOALS, OR TWO STRATEGIC PRIORITIES.

IT'S THE SAME PROCESS.

>> OH, I SEE WHAT YOU'RE SAYING.

>> YEAH, I'M SORRY ABOUT THAT.

>> WELL, TO TYLER'S POINT, THEN AND I'M GOING TO BRING THIS UP AND NOT TO THEN WHY DON'T WE MAKE THE PRIORITY HOUSING AND REGIONAL ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT OR VICE VERSA.

SO THAT THEY'RE TOGETHER WITHIN THE SAME PRIORITY.

>> YOU COULD LITERALLY ADD TO THIS GOAL BY 20 SOMETHING THROUGH CODE UPDATE, ACTIVE PARTNERSHIPS AND ADVOCACY, THE YAVAPAI COMMUNITY WILL EXPERIENCE A REDUCTION IN CURRENT HOUSING DEFICIT AND AN IMPROVEMENT IN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.

>> I DON'T HAVE ANY PROBLEMS WITH IT.

>> YEAH, I THINK TOO.

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BECAUSE IF YOU CALL IT OUT, RATHER THAN I'D SUGGEST JALA, WELL, IT COULD BE UNDER IT.

WELL, NO, JUST CALL IT OUT IN THE GOAL ITSELF.

HOUSING AND REGIONAL ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.

>> BUT HERE'S THE THING.

I THINK IF YOU TIE THOSE TWO TOGETHER AND YOU MAKE MARGINAL PROGRESS ON ONE AND END UP FOCUSING ON THE OTHER, YOU COULD CALL IT A SUCCESS WITHOUT HAVING TRULY DEALT WITH A MORE DIFFICULT ISSUE OF HOUSING.

>> BUT WOULD YOU ACTUALLY EVER DO THAT HERE?

>> YES. [LAUGHTER]

>> I HAD TO ASK.

>> ON THE RECORD.

>> FOR PREDICTING FAILURES, IS THAT POSSIBLE HERE?

>> I THINK HOUSING IS A MORE DIFFICULT ISSUE, AND I THINK IF YOU LEAVE IT PAIRED WITH SOMETHING, IT STANDS TO MAYBE MAKE LESS PROGRESS ON IT.

>> OR PERHAPS MORE.

>> MAYBE.

>> IF THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT STRATEGY IS TO GET MORE LIVABLE WAGE JOBS, WILL THOSE LIVABLE WAGE JOBS SUPPORT PEOPLE BUYING HOUSES.

>> DANG IT, I HAD MY MIND MADE UP ORIGINALLY.

I CHANGED IT AND BECAME FULL FORCE IN FAVOR OF SEPARATING THEM OUT.

BUT OF COURSE, THERE'S A GRAY AREA THERE.

I DON'T KNOW. ANYBODY ELSE'S THOUGHTS?

>> WELL, I WILL JUST SAY I'M THINKING THE COLLAR THAT WE HAD WITH WATER AND OPEN SPACE.

WE'VE SAID WE WANT TO KEEP THOSE TOGETHER, BUT WE REALIZE PRACTICALLY, THEY ARE PROBABLY GOING TO BE SEPARATE STRATEGIES FOR THEM.

WE WANT TO FIND THAT MIDDLE GROUND OF KEEPING THEM TOGETHER, BUT YET HAVING THE ABILITY TO SEPARATE WHEN WE NEED TO.

IT WOULDN'T BE UNLIKE THAT EXAMPLE, I GUESS.

>> CAN I CLAIM CREDIT FOR MY ORIGINAL THINKING PROCESS [LAUGHTER]?

>> IF YOU WERE TO DO THAT, AND AGAIN WE'RE HAVING A CONVERSATION.

THIS AGAIN, GOING BACK TO WHAT I SAID EARLY YESTERDAY, IT'S AN ART ABOUT THIS PROCESS.

THERE'S NOT A RULE THAT SAYS YOU DO IT THIS WAY OR THAT WAY.

BUT IF YOU WERE TO HAVE AT THIS POINT FOR STRATEGIC PRIORITIES AND HAVE INFRASTRUCTURE, HOUSING AND REGIONAL ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, PUBLIC SAFETY, WATER, AND OPEN SPACE, YOU PUT THAT ONE AND THE OTHER TWO INTO THAT PRIORITY.

YOU HAVE TO HAVE AS A BOARD THE DECISION DISCIPLINE.

I USED THAT WAS A FANCY PHRASE I HEARD IN THE LAST JURISDICTION, TO BE HONEST ABOUT THE PROGRESS AND THE CHALLENGES IN EACH OF THOSE.

>> I WANT TO BRING THIS CONVERSATION UP TO THE BOARD FOR DISCUSSION. WHAT DO YOU THINK?

>> I'M GOOD WITH THAT, ESPECIALLY NIKKI, WHEN YOU WERE SAYING, THE CODES ARE GOING TO DRIVE BOTH.

BOTH OF THEM ARE GOING TO BENEFIT FROM HAVING GOOD CODES THAT ADDRESS BOTH THESE ISSUES.

HAVING THAT UNDER ONE UMBRELLA AND HAVING ONE DEPARTMENT RESPOND TO HOW THEY'RE GOING TO ACHIEVE THAT, I THINK IS A GOOD IDEA.

>> NOW WE CAN TALK ABOUT GOOD GOVERNANCE [LAUGHTER] AS A POTENTIAL FIFTH. HERE WE GO.

>> WELL, NONE GOOD GOVERNANCE.

I WOULD START BY SAYING, YOU HEARD ME CONCENTRATE ON FINANCE.

BUT GOING BACK TO OUR SURVEY, THIS ABILITY TO PROVIDE INPUT, WE'VE NOT TALKED ABOUT, AND THAT COULD FIT THERE, TOO, AND I DON'T WANT TO LOSE THAT SINCE THAT WAS SOMETHING THAT WE HEARD FROM OUR RESIDENTS HERE.

>> WELL, GOING BACK TO WHAT THE CHAIR SAID EARLIER, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU MENTIONED THIS ON A FEW THINGS.

BUT AGAIN, I'LL READ IT BECAUSE I READ IT THE LAST TIME BEGINNING BY A CERTAIN DATE OR CONTINUING THROUGH COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT AND COMMUNICATION.

YAVAPAI COUNTY RESIDENTS WILL HAVE A BETTER UNDERSTANDING OF THE COUNTY, COUNTY ACTIVITIES AND RESULTS AND WHY THOSE ARE IMPORTANT FOR OUR COMMUNITY.

FOLKS WANT TO BE ENGAGED, AND THEY WANT TO HAVE INFORMATION ABOUT WHAT YOU'RE DOING, WHAT YOU'RE ACHIEVING, AND WHY THEY SHOULD CARE.

THAT INCLUDES EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THESE, PLUS PROBABLY WHAT YOUR DEPARTMENTS ARE UP TO.

THE ISSUE BECOMES WHEN THEY DON'T, OR THEY DON'T FEEL LIKE THEY HAVE A VOICE, YOU SEE THAT IN YOUR SURVEY.

>> THERE'S SOMETHING ABOUT THAT.

WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT GOOD GOVERNANCE, YOU'VE ALSO TALKED ABOUT COMMUNICATIONS JUST NOW.

THOSE TWO THEMES COULD BE WOVEN INTO THE TITLE OF THE PRIORITY, IF YOU WANTED TO, AS WELL.

ONE OF THE THINGS ABOUT THIS NAME AND THE OTHERS AS WELL, IS THAT YOU ARE LEAVING YOURSELF ROOM IN THE FUTURE TO ADD OTHER AREAS OF FOCUS, OTHER RESULTS THAT YOU WANT WITHIN THE LARGER BROADER CONTEXT OF EACH OF THESE PRIORITIES, SO YOU DON'T WANT TO OVER LIMIT.

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YOU WOULDN'T WANT TO SAY, FOR INSTANCE, SOMETHING ABOUT FINANCE.

THAT'S ONE VERY IMPORTANT ASPECT OF YOUR FUTURE PERFORMANCE NOW, BUT IT MAY NOT BE IN THREE YEARS, FOR INSTANCE.

>> I'VE BEEN THROUGH THIS PROCESS BEFORE.

WE'VE ALWAYS INCORPORATED GOOD GOVERNANCE BECAUSE THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE USE TO DIRECTLY COMMUNICATE WITH THE CONSTITUENTS.

THESE OTHER GOALS, THEY'RE GREAT GOALS, BUT THEY'RE GOING TO BE OVER TIME.

IF YOU TALK ABOUT GOOD GOVERNANCE AND COMMUNICATION, YOU CAN BUILD GOALS THAT ARE SOONER THAN LATER.

YOU CAN ACHIEVE SOMETHING EARLIER IN THIS TWO TO FIVE YEAR SCHEDULE.

MANY OF THESE THINGS ARE LITERALLY GOING TO TAKE YEARS UPON YEARS AND MAY EVEN EXCEED THE FIVE YEARS.

I THINK THERE ARE THINGS WITHIN GOOD GOVERNANCE THAT WE CAN SAY WOULD BE GOALS MAYBE JUST FOR NEXT YEAR, PARTICULARLY IF WE TALK ABOUT COMMUNICATION, BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE TO NECESSARILY COORDINATE WITH OTHER PARTNERS THROUGHOUT THE VERDE VALLEY.

YOU CAN FIGURE OUT COMMUNICATION JUST WITHIN THE COUNTY ITSELF, HOW WE WANT TO INTERACT WITH THE FOLKS THAT WE SERVE.

>> I'M JUST TYING, AGAIN, COMMUNICATION AND FINANCE TOGETHER, BACK TO THE CONVERSATION ABOUT PUBLIC SAFETY.

WE GET SERIOUS ABOUT THIS JAIL DISTRICT TAX.

WE KNOW THAT'S GOING TO TAKE AN IMMENSE AMOUNT OF TARGETED COMMUNICATION TO THIS COUNTY ABOUT WHY WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THAT, WHY IT HAS TO BE ADDRESSED.

IT COMES FULL CIRCLE FOR ME.

>> IS THERE CONSENSUS TO COMBINE GOVERNANCE AND COMMUNICATION, OR IS IT COMMUNICATION UNDER GOVERNANCE AS ONE OF A GOAL? HOW DO YOU WANT TO DO IT? GIVE ME SOME FEEDBACK HERE, WHAT DO WE WANT TO DO WITH GOOD GOVERNANCE AND COMMUNICATION?

>> WAS COMMUNICATION AN INDIVIDUAL PRIORITY, STRATEGIC PRIORITY WE TALKED ABOUT? I THOUGHT GOOD GOVERNANCE WAS JUST THE ONLY HEADER WE TALKED ABOUT.

BUT I UNDERSTAND COMMUNICATION AS A MECHANISM WITHIN THAT.

>> SORRY. NO, I'M GOING BACK TO THE SURVEY RESULTS WE GOT.

WE'VE ADDRESSED ALL OF THOSE, TALKED ABOUT THEM EXCEPT FOR THE ABILITY TO PROVIDE INPUT TO MY LOCAL GOVERNMENT.

>> WHAT PAGE?

>> PAGE WHAT WAS IT? THIRTEEN THAT WE LOOKED AT, YESTERDAY.

>> COULD I SAY SOMETHING REAL QUICK? WHEN I LISTENING TO EVERYTHING, THE ONE THING THAT EVERY ONE OF THESE SUPERVISORS HAVE SAID OVER TIME AND MANY OTHER ELECTED OFFICIALS IS THEY ALWAYS WANT TO BE TRANSPARENT.

GOOD GOVERNANCE IS TRANSPARENCY AND COMMUNICATION AND HAVING OUR CITIZENS BE A PART OF THE VERY COUNTY THAT THEY PAY TAXES IN AND SEEING THEIR TAX DOLLARS AT WORK AND THEIR ELECTED OFFICIALS BEING THEIR VOICE.

>> I'M JUST THROWING THAT OUT THERE.

WELL I THINK PART OF THE REASON WHY THIS IS SO IMPORTANT IS IT'S NOT JUST A ONE WAY COMMUNICATION THAT WE'RE AFTER HERE OF JUST EXPRESSING WHAT WE'RE DOING AND REMAINING ACCOUNTABLE, BUT RATHER INVITING PEOPLE INTO THE PROCESS TO A DEGREE THAT THEY CAN ACCEPT SOME RESPONSIBILITY FOR THE OUTCOMES.

THAT'S A WONDERFUL THING BOTH FOR CONSTITUENTS IN THEIR ABILITY TO MANAGE FRUSTRATION WITH THE PROCESS IF THEY FEEL LIKE THEY HAVE SOME ABILITY TO INFLUENCE OUR PROCESS AND KEEP TABS ON IT.

BUT IT ALSO REALLY MAKES OUR WORK A LOT MORE STREAMLINED AND LESS ADVERSARIAL OVERALL.

I DO REALLY SEE THAT THERE'S SOME CARROTS AT THE END OF THIS STICK HERE.

>> THE OTHER THING IS THERE'S A DIFFERENCE BETWEEN LISTENING TO PEOPLE AND HEARING THEM.

SOME PEOPLE MAY THINK THAT MEANS THE SAME THING, BUT IT DOES NOT. PERCEPTION IS REALITY.

WE HEAR THEM AND WE NEED TO LISTEN.

WE NEED TO WALK OVER TO THEIR SIDE AND TRY TO UNDERSTAND WHAT IS THEIR REALITY OF WHAT THIS GOVERNMENT IS DOING?

>> WELL, IF WE'RE TALKING ABOUT PUTTING GOOD GOVERNANCE UP THERE AND WHAT THE GOALS ARE, THAT MEANS I'D LIKE A DEFINITION OF GOOD GOVERNANCE.

WE DIDN'T HAVE DEFINED IT.

>> LET ME JUST SAY SOMETHING REAL QUICK.

YOU COULD CALL THIS GOOD GOVERNANCE, YOU CALL IT GOOD GOVERNMENT.

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BUT ONE OF THE THINGS I WANT YOU TO REALIZE IS THAT RIGHT NOW YOU'VE GOT NINE STRATEGIC RESULTS UP HERE, THAT SUPERVISOR JENKINS POINT ARE GOING TO NEED TO BE INFLUENCED TOWARD ACHIEVEMENT OVER THE NEXT SEVERAL YEARS.

IF NOT LONGER IN SOME CASES.

THE ASSUMPTION IS THAT THE HOUSE IS IN ORDER AND READY TO SUPPORT THAT.

THAT'S NOT ALWAYS THE CASE.

ACTUALLY, VERY RARELY IS IT THE CASE, BECAUSE IT REQUIRES A LEVEL OF COLLABORATION AMONGST DEPARTMENTS THAT IN A LOT OF PLACES HAS NOT EVER HAPPENED.

I'M JUST BEING HONEST WITH YOU.

THE ASSUMPTION IS, H, WE'RE JUST GOING TO DO THIS, AND ALL OF A SUDDEN, HEY, WE GOT IT.

WE'RE GOING TO BUILD. I'M GOING TO TELL YOU RIGHT NOW, THAT'S NOT HOW THIS WORKS.

NOW, CAN YOU DO IT WITHOUT HAVING THAT FOUNDATIONAL GOOD GOVERNMENT, GOOD GOVERNANCE PRIORITY? SURE YOU COULD.

BUT IF YOU CREATE A PRIORITY RELATED TO THAT, WHATEVER YOU WANT TO CALL, THEN YOU'RE HIGHLIGHTING THE NEED TO GET THINGS READY TO COLLABORATE, TO MAKE SURE YOU'RE DOING THE THINGS THAT ARE GOING TO SUPPORT ALL OF THIS.

COMMUNICATION. IF YOU'RE GOING TO COMMUNICATE WITH FOLKS, YOU BETTER COMMUNICATE WITH THEM ABOUT THESE THINGS.

THOSE MOST IMPORTANT THINGS.

THAT'S THE REASON WHY YOU MIGHT PUT SOMETHING IN THERE ABOUT COMMUNICATIONS, BECAUSE TO ASSUME THAT IT'S GOING TO HAPPEN, MY DAD USED TO TELL ME WHAT IT WAS TO ASSUME. I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'VE EVER HEARD THAT.

BUT TO ASSUME THAT IT IS GOING TO HAPPEN COULD BE TRICKY.

IT'S ABOUT BEING INTENTIONAL.

ABOUT THE FOUNDATION OF GOVERNANCE THAT IS GOING TO UNDERLIE EACH OF THESE AND MAKE IT POSSIBLE.

BECAUSE RIGHT NOW, YOU THINK ABOUT COMMUNICATIONS, IT MAY OR IT MAY NOT HAPPEN.

YOU THINK ABOUT THESE OTHER THINGS.

YOU THINK ABOUT THE JAIL DISTRICT, FOR EXAMPLE.

IF YOU DON'T GET THAT UNDER CONTROL, YOUR SERVICE DELIVERY ACROSS ALL YOUR OTHER DEPARTMENTS IS GOING TO GO AWAY.

IN CLACKAMAS COUNTY, OREGON, THEY BUILT A COURTHOUSE.

NOW EVERY YEAR, HOW MANY MILLION IS THAT, MARK?

>> IT WAS LIKE 360.

>> THEN HOW MUCH IS COMING OUT OF THE GENERAL FUND EVERY YEAR?

>> A LOT.

>>MANY MORE THAN YOU'RE COMING OUT OF YOURS.

IT'S BEING TAKEN AWAY FROM THEIR OPERATIONAL DEPARTMENTS BECAUSE OF CHOICES THAT THEY'VE MADE.

THERE ARE SOME THINGS YOU CAN DO FROM A GOVERNANCE PERSPECTIVE OR A GOVERNMENT PERSPECTIVE NOW AND OVER TIME TO SHOW THAT WE'VE GOT OUR FOUNDATION SET AND CAN ACTUALLY GO OUT AND DO THESE THINGS.

DOESN'T MEAN YOU'RE DOING BAD.

IT JUST MEANS YOU NEED TO FOCUS ON IT AND SHOW THAT YOU'RE DOING IT.

AGAIN, APOLOGIZE FOR THE LENGTHY COMMENT.

>> JUST WANT TO COMMENT BEFORE WE GET TOO FAR AWAY WITH IT.

WE'RE TALKING ABOUT COMMUNICATION, I THINK THAT'S FINE AS WE USE THAT AS THE HEADER PERHAPS.

BUT SUPERVISOR CHECK WAS SPOT ON.

IF YOU LOOK AT WHAT WE HEARD FROM THE COMMUNITY, IT WASN'T NECESSARILY TELL US MORE.

IT WAS ABILITY TO PROVIDE INPUT TO YOU.

>> OFTENTIMES IN PLANS THAT DEAL WITH COMMUNICATIONS THERE WEREN'T REALLY A TWO WAY EXCHANGE, WHICH IS OBVIOUSLY WHAT YOU WANT TO.

THE WORD ENGAGEMENT IS INCLUDED ALONG WITH COMMUNICATION.

BECAUSE YOU'RE ENGAGING PEOPLE IN TALKING JUST LIKE WE DID IN THIS PROCESS, JUST LIKE YOU DO IN YOUR COMMUNITY MEETINGS, ETC.

YOU COULD INCLUDE A GOAL, YOU COULD INCLUDE THE COMMUNICATION IN THE TITLE OF THE PRIORITY, COMMUNICATIONS AND GOOD GOVERNMENT OR GOOD GOVERNANCE, AND YOU COULD HAVE A GOAL THAT THE PEOPLE OF YAVAPAI COUNTY WILL EXPERIENCE ENHANCED TRANSPARENCY, COMMUNICATION, AND COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

>> WELL, CURRENTLY RIGHT NOW, WE ARE THE TWO WAY STREET, THE SUPERVISORS.

WE'RE THE ONES THAT GET THE INFORMATION BACK, AND I DON'T WANT THAT TO GO AWAY FROM ME, BUT MAYBE MR. MCATEE'S DEPARTMENT, DO WE HAVE OPEN UP A WAY FOR PEOPLE TO COMMUNICATE BACK GENERALLY TO THE COUNTY VERSUS JUST US INDIVIDUALLY? THAT WAY, I CAN SHIFT THE COMPLAINTS TO THAT DEPARTMENT [LAUGHTER]

>> [INAUDIBLE] YOU DON'T HAVE TO.

>> AS WE MOVE FORWARD WITH ALL THESE PLANS, WE GOT TO REALIZE WE JUST TOLD THE TAXPAYERS IF YOU INCREASE OUR SPENDING CAP, WE'RE GOOD.

NOW WHAT ARE WE TALKING ABOUT? WHAT'S GOING TO HAVE TO MAKE ALL THESE DREAMS COME TRUE? I THINK WHEN YOU TALK WITH YOUR CITY, TOWNS, AND MANAGERS, YOU'RE LEAVING OUT ONE THING THAT'S GOING TO REALLY TELL THEM WHAT TO DO, AND THAT'S THEIR ELECTED OFFICIALS.

>> I GUESS I WOULD ASK THE QUESTIONS, HOW DO YOU GET ALONG WITH THE OTHER ELECTED OFFICIALS IN THE CITY IN THE MUNICIPALITIES? PRETTY GOOD COLLABORATIVE PARTNERS?

>> I THINK WE GET ALONG WITH THEM, BUT THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE TO HOLD THE LINE ON SOME OF THESE THINGS, TOO.

>> FOR THE MOST PART, I'VE GOT SIX OF THEM RIGHT HERE THAT I LOOKED AT, A LOT OF THEM HAVE STRATEGIC PLANS. I WOULDN'T SAY ALL OF THEM.

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I HAD TO DIG AND TRY TO FIND THINGS.

YOU WOULD BE SURPRISED HOW THERE WERE THREE REAL BIG AREAS THAT I FOUND IN ABOUT EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THEM.

ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, HOUSING, AND WHAT'S THE OTHER ONE? DO YOU REMEMBER WHAT I SAID? ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, HOUSING, INFRASTRUCTURE.

OUR APPROACH HERE AND THEIR APPROACH THERE, THERE IS FERTILE GROUND.

TO YOUR POINT, SUPERVISOR, HOW DO WE GET TOGETHER AND WORK TOGETHER?

>> I DON'T WANT TO PAINT US INTO A CORNER WITH THIS PLAN EITHER, WHERE WE SAY, WELL, WE'RE NOT REALLY WORKING ON THAT BECAUSE I THINK MANAGING GROWTH AND DIRECTING GROWTH IS THE TOP PRIORITY.

>> THE THING TO REMEMBER ABOUT WHAT WE'VE DONE HERE IS, WE, IN ESSENCE, HAVE STARTED THE PROCESS OF SETTING HIGH LEVEL DIRECTION FOR THE NEXT COUPLE OF YEARS.

YOU HAVE OPERATIONAL DEPARTMENTS FROM FINANCE TO HR, TO PUBLIC WORKS, TO SHERIFF TO OTHERS THAT ARE DELIVERING OPERATIONAL RESULTS TO THE COMMUNITY EVERY SINGLE DAY.

HUNDREDS, THOUSANDS OF SERVICES ARE BEING DELIVERED.

IF WE'RE TALKING ABOUT INTERNAL SERVICE DEPARTMENTS THE OTHER DEPARTMENTS ARE THEIR CUSTOMERS.

THEN FOR THE OTHERS, IT'S THE COMMUNITY.

ALL THAT WE'RE SAYING HERE IS THAT, THESE RESULTS HAVE RISEN TO THE HIGH LEVEL.

WHETHER WE'RE TALKING STRATEGIC RESULTS OR OPERATIONAL RESULTS.

YOU GUYS CONTINUE TO DELIVER THOSE SERVICES. YOU GOT TO TELL THAT STORY.

>> EVERYBODY, I'VE GOT A DRAFT UP HERE.

THE FRONT IS A LITTLE BIT CLUNKY BECAUSE I DIDN'T WANT TO NECESSARILY SAY, WELL, BY 2027, WE'LL BE DOING THIS.

THIS IS AN ONGOING EFFORT THAT WILL BEGIN PERHAPS SOON.

BUT IT BEGINS, CONTINUING IN 2025, AND GOING FORWARD, THE PEOPLE OF YAVAPAI COUNTY WILL EXPERIENCE ENHANCED TRANSPARENCY, COMMUNICATIONS, AND COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT.

>> I LIKE THAT.

>> WITH THIS GOAL, COMMUNICATIONS WILL NO LONGER JUST BE A CONVERSATION.

IT'LL BE SOMETHING THAT YOU RALLY AROUND, THAT YOU CREATE STRATEGIES FOR, THAT YOU ENGAGE WITH, THAT YOU FUND IF NECESSARY, AND BECOMES VERY INTENTIONAL, SO WELL DONE.

>> MY QUESTION TO YOU, GOING BACK TO EARLIER, IF WE HAVE THE COMMUNICATION, I'LL JUST CALL THIS COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT AND COMMUNICATIONS, WHATEVER IT IS.

WHAT'S THE STRATEGIC PRIORITY? WHAT DO WE WANT TO CALL THAT? BECAUSE WE'VE TALKED QUITE A BIT ABOUT IT.

IS IT GOOD GOVERNMENT? IS IT GOOD GOVERNANCE? IS IT GOOD GOVERNANCE AND COMMUNICATIONS? WHAT IS IT? IT DOESN'T REALLY MATTER TO US.

>> I LIKE THE WORDS GOOD GOVERNANCE BECAUSE IT'S NOT GOOD GOVERNMENT.

GOVERNANCE INCLUDES THE PEOPLE, SO I LIKE THAT WORDING, IN PARTICULAR.

>> WHAT'S EVERYBODY ELSE THINK?

>> [INAUDIBLE]

>> LET ME ASK THE NEXT QUESTION.

WE'VE GOT SOMETHING UP HERE ABOUT TRANSPARENCY, ENGAGEMENT, COMMUNICATIONS.

NOT A ONE WAY STREET BUT A TWO WAY STREET.

YOU SAY HELLO, THEY SAY HELLO BACK.

LIST, I WANT TO BRING UP SOMETHING THAT WAS HERE AND GONE AS QUICK AS IT WAS EARLIER.

THAT WAS THIS THING AROUND FINANCE IN THIS JAIL DISTRICT BECAUSE HE WAS RIGHT HERE AND TALKING ABOUT IT, AND THEN IT WAS JUST GONE ALL OF A SUDDEN.

IS THAT SOMETHING YOU GUYS WANT TO TALK ABOUT? MY SENSE WAS THERE'S A LOT AT STAKE THERE.

>> IS THAT THE SAME THING AS THE OTHER? OH, SORRY, GOT YOU.

>> WELL, I WILL SAY THIS, IT IS SOMETHING WE ARE GOING TO HAVE TO TALK ABOUT, AND IT IS SOMETHING THAT WE ARE GOING TO HAVE TO DO.

WE ARE GOING TO HAVE TO GO OUT TO THE VOTERS.

WE ARE GOING TO HAVE TO COMMUNICATE THIS, EXPLAIN TO THEM.

HERE'S THE GENERAL BUDGET, 14 MILLION COMING OUT OF HERE TO TAKE CARE OF OVER HERE.

THE STRUCTURE WAS MEANT FOR THIS, SO WE SHOULD HAVE DONE WHAT DID THEY SAY A HALF PERCENT? WE ONLY DID A QUARTER.

GOING OUT FOR THIS, WE'RE GOING TO DO ANOTHER QUARTER ON A SALES TAX TYPE THING.

BUT THIS IS WHERE YOU HAVE TO HAVE THAT GOOD COMMUNICATION.

YOU'VE GOT TO HAVE THE FACTS.

YOU'VE GOT TO BE ABLE TO EXPLAIN IT OVER AND OVER AND OVER AGAIN.

THEY WILL SAY TO SUPERVISOR KUKNYO'S POINT ABOUT THE EXPENDITURE LIMITATION BEING RAISED.

THAT GIVES US ACCESS TO MORE OF THE MONEY WE ALREADY HAD, IS THAT CORRECT?

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BUT THAT MONEY IS NOT WHAT WE USE TO RUN OUR EVERY DAY GOVERNMENT.

THAT ISN'T THE REVENUE SOURCE.

THAT IS FOR THE CAPITAL PROJECTS, WHICH ARE LIKE ALL THE RULE BUILDINGS THAT WE'VE JUST TALKED ABOUT TODAY.

YOU GET THE JAILS TAX PASSED, THEN THE BOARD WILL HAVE THAT MONEY FREED UP OUT OF THE GENERAL BUDGET WILL ACTUALLY GIVE YOU WAY MORE AVAILABILITY TO MOVE FORWARD WITH MUCH MORE GOOD SERVICES, BETTER SERVICES, HELPING YOU TO FUND YOUR FULL TIME EMPLOYEES AND ALL OF THOSE THINGS.

ANYWAY, I'VE SAID A LOT OF THINGS.

I'M NOT THE EXPERT ON THAT.

I'M JUST OVER THE YEARS, THESE ARE THINGS I'VE PICKED UP ON AND CAPTURED.

YOU ABSOLUTELY COULD RUN INTO THAT.

YOU WORK ON THE BUDGET ZACH ALSO.

BUT I DO KNOW THAT JAIL TAX NOT HAVING IT AT THE HALF PERCENT THAT IT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE, OR IS THAT RIGHT? IT'S KILLING US. IT IS ABSOLUTELY KILLING US, AND IT'S TOO BAD THAT IT DIDN'T WORK OUT THE FIRST TIME, AND THAT WE'RE SITTING HERE HAVING TO REVISIT IT.

>> IF YOU ALL LIKE THAT ONE, THE OTHER PIECE WE'VE TALKED ABOUT IS FINANCING, SO I'VE GOT SUGGESTED LANGUAGE TO START THE CONVERSATION.

IN ORDER TO ACCOMPLISH THE GOALS OF THIS STRATEGIC PLAN AND BE A GOOD STEWARD OF TAXPAYER RESOURCES, YAVAPAI COUNTY WILL DEVELOP A FINANCIAL PLAN TO ADDRESS ONE, A STRUCTURALLY SOUND BUDGET, TWO CAPITAL NEEDS, THREE, ROADS, FOUR, COMPENSATION STRATEGY AND FIVE, CONTINUED GROWTH.

THE CONTINUED GROWTH IS THE ONE THAT YOU MAY WANT TO TALK SPECIFICALLY ABOUT, IS THAT TOO CHARGED? IT'S A REALITY, WE KNOW THAT THE COUNTY'S GROWING.

THERE'S GOING TO BE CONTINUED NEEDS,.

>> I'M NOT A FAN OF THE CONTINUED GROWTH AT THE END.

BUT OTHER THAN THAT, I WOULD BE, BUT TO SUPERVISE CHAIR MALLORY'S POINT, THIS HAS TO OCCUR.

IT'S BEEN GIVEN TO US IN TERMS OF THE FUNDING, AT LEAST IN MY VIEW, AND WE'RE SIMPLY TALKING ABOUT THE CRAFTING OF THE MESSAGE.

I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S FOR TODAY OR NOT, BUT IT NEEDS TO OCCUR, BUT THE CRAFTING OF A MESSAGE I'M FINE WITH A LATER DAY.

>> RIGHT NOW WE'RE LOOKING AT CONTINUED GROWTH, BUT WE DON'T KNOW WHAT THE FUTURE HOLDS.

IF AT SOME POINT THERE WAS CONSTRICTION, WE WOULD LOOK AT NOT CONTINUING TO GROW.

[LAUGHTER]

>> LET ME ASK THE QUESTION JUST SO I'M CLEAR, BECAUSE I REALLY LIKED WHAT YOU WROTE THERE, MARY.

IS THAT IN ADDITION TO THAT?

>> LET ME GO BACK TO THIS ONE REAL QUICK.

THIS SAYS, SO THAT THE COUNTY IS POSITIONED TO DELIVER QUALITY SERVICES IN THE FACE OF INCREASED DEMAND.

BY 20XX, THE FUNDING STREAM ADEQUATE TO PAY FOR THE COST OF THE JAIL DISTRICT WILL BE DEVELOPED.

>> SEE, I THINK IT NEEDS TO BE BROADER THAN JUST JAIL DISTRICT TAX.

>> OR MAYBE A SEPARATE.

I MEAN, YOU COULD CREATE IT TOO.

>> I GET SO NERVOUS BECAUSE I FEEL LIKE WE'RE SAYING, ALL THE JAIL TAX, THE JAIL DISTRICT TAX IS GOING TO HAPPEN.

WELL, WE CAN MOVE IT FORWARD AND WE CAN MAKE IT HAPPEN TO THE EXTENT OF OUR ABILITY.

>> WELL, CHAIR, I APOLOGIZE FOR JUMPING.

>> NO, IT'S OKAY. MY HEAD IS LIKE, I HEAR I'M COMING NOW.

>> NO. BUT HERE'S THE THING YOU GOT TO REMEMBER.

IT'S A DARNED IF IT'S A CHALLENGE.

BUT YOU KNOW YOU HAVE TO DO THIS OR SERVICE DELIVERY IS ALREADY BEING IMPACTED AT THE OPERATIONAL LEVEL.

LET'S JUST SAY YOU PUT IT IN YOUR PLAN, AND YOU DO EVERYTHING IN YOUR POWER THROUGH COMMUNICATIONS AND OTHERWISE TO COMMUNICATE WHY YOU NEED THIS, AND LET'S JUST SAY IT DOESN'T HAPPEN.

YOU GAVE A HECK OF AN EFFORT.

NOW, IF YOU DON'T DO THAT, THE QUESTION IS, WHY DIDN'T YOU TELL US THAT WAS GOING TO HAPPEN? NOW MY PUBLIC WORKS I'M NOT GETTING MY SERVICE FROM THEM.

I DON'T GET THIS STUFF FROM THIS OTHER DEPARTMENT.

WELL, I'M SORRY, WE HAVE TO PAY OUT OF THE JAIL TAX.

SO YES, YOU DON'T CONTROL IT.

THE QUESTION FOR YOU GUYS IS, DO YOU WANT TO TRY TO INFLUENCE THIS? IT'S SAFE TO NOT PUT IT IN THERE.

IT'S NOT AS SAFE TO GO AFTER IT, YOU KNOW YOU NEED IT.

IT'S THE QUESTION, SOMEBODY WOULD SAY, DO YOU HAVE THE POLITICAL WILL TO PUT THAT IN YOUR PLAN?

>> I HAVE THE POLITICAL WILL.

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WELL, I ALWAYS HAVE THE POLITICAL WILL.

>> THAT'S THE QUESTION.

>> BUT IF WE'RE GOING TO RELY ON THIS PLAN, WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO ADD SOMETHING IN THAT STARTS THAT EDUCATION PIECE.

IF PEOPLE ARE READING OUR STRATEGIC PLAN, THEN THEY'RE NOTIFIED, OH, THEY'RE INTERESTED IN PURSUING A JAIL TAX, AND WE COULD EDUCATE THEM AS TO WHY BY ADDING IN ORDER TO PREVENT UNDUE BURDEN ON PROPERTY TAXES.

YOU COULD JUST STATE IT IN THAT SO THAT THERE'S A PIECE OF EDUCATION IN OUR PLANNING.

>> THAT'S THE CRAFTING OF THE MESSAGE.

TO CHAIR MALLORY'S POINT, I MEAN, I HAVE THE POLITICAL WILL TO DO IT.

IT'S TIME. I MEAN, YOU CAN'T AMPERAGE THE MONEY EVERY YOU HAVE TO.

YOU HAVE TO START MOVING.

>> THE OTHER PART TO THIS IS, LET'S SAY THE WORST SCENARIO HAPPENS.

WE'RE DEALT THE SAME THING WE WERE DEALT BACK IN 2014.

I WOULD HIGHLY SUGGEST THAT WE AS A BOARD, WHAT IS OUR PLAN B? BECAUSE YOU CAN HAVE A PLAN A, BUT YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO.

I ALWAYS SAY, WELL, IF I GET THIS LOAN, KIRK, WE CAN DO THIS.

BUT THEN IF I'M NOT GOING TO GET THIS, WHAT'S THE PLAN TO MAKE SOMETHING HAPPEN? WHAT'S THAT PLAN? BECAUSE I'M ALL ABOUT ADVENTURE WITH SECURITY.

BUT IF YOU READ THIS, IT DOESN'T SAY JAIL TAX, IT SAYS DEVELOP A FUNDING STREAM.

>> IT DOESN'T ASSUME YOU'RE GOING FOR THE JAIL TAX, IS THERE SOMETHING ELSE? I DON'T KNOW.

>> I DON'T KNOW, EITHER, BUT IT DOESN'T SAY JAIL TAX.

IT SAYS THAT'S YOUR PLAN A AND B. IT COULD BE.

>> WELL, WE AREN'T DEVELOPING A FUNDING STREAM. WE HAVE IT.

WHAT THE CONVERSATION IS, IS THAT WE NEED TO INCREASE IT, THAT QUARTER CENT.

THE FUNDING ISN'T A NEW WAY.

IT'S ALREADY EXISTING, BUT WE NEED TO PUT IT WHERE IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN WAY BACK WHEN, WHAT YEAR WAS THAT? NOT 2014. IT WAS BEFORE THAT.

WHATEVER THE SHERIFF SAID, I CAN'T REMEMBER.

BUT WHEN THE BOARD FIRST DID, IT WAS LIKE A QUARTER, WE SHOULD HAVE DONE THE HALF THEN.

BUT WE DIDN'T, SO WE NEED TO DO IT NOW.

THAT'S THE MESSAGE.

THEN, OF COURSE, THE EXPENDITURE LIMITATION.

THAT'S GOING TO COME UP.

THAT'S THE CONVERSATION TOO, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO TALK ABOUT.

>> WHEN YOU START THINKING ABOUT THIS AND YOU START LOOKING, HOW DO WE START TODAY AND PREPARE TO ROLL OUT WHAT WE NEED TO HAPPEN, ALL THOSE THINGS THAT, SUPERVISOR COMPTON AND EVERYBODY'S TALKING ABOUT CRAFTING THE MESSAGE.

HOW DO WE START POSITIONING IN OURSELVES? HOW DO WE TALK ABOUT IT? ALL THOSE DETAILS GO INTO THE IMPLEMENTATION OF THAT.

AND THAT DOESN'T HAPPEN OVERNIGHT.

WE'VE SEEN THINGS GO OUT, AND YOU'VE PROBABLY EXPERIENCED THEM YOURSELF.

THEY GO OUT AND THEY'RE SUCCESSFUL OR THEY GO OUT AND THEY'RE NOT.

HOW DO WE IMPLEMENT THAT, SO THAT FOLKS UNDERSTAND WHY WE'RE DOING THIS?

>> QUESTION, ARE ALL THE BOARD MEMBERS ON BOARD TO PUT OUT THE POLITICAL WILL TO MAKE THIS HAPPEN?

>> WELL, THE NICE THING IS WHEN YOU GUYS COME BACK IN FOUR YEARS, YOU'LL HAVE FIVE NEW PEOPLE TO WORK WITH.

I MEAN, BECAUSE WE'RE TALKING SALES TAX.

WE'RE TALKING MAJOR BONDS, SECONDARY PROPERTY TAX.

I MEAN, IT TAKES A LOT OF BUCKS TO GET THIS DONE.

LIKE I SAID, WE JUST GOT DONE SELLING THE PEOPLE THAT IF YOU GIVE US THIS BUDGET OVERRIDE, WE'LL HAVE ENOUGH MONEY FOR A LONG TIME.

NOW WE'RE DOING THIS.

>> I JUST WANT TO UNDERSTAND THE GOAL HERE REALLY IS TO ELIMINATE OR REDUCE THE DEFICIT ON THE JAIL TAX.

IS THAT THE GOAL? BECAUSE I THINK THAT NEEDS TO BE WORDED A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENTLY.

>> PICKING UP ON WHAT BOTH OF YOU SAID, WE COULD ADD SOME LANGUAGE HERE.

I'M NOT SUGGESTING THIS IS THE RIGHT WAY TO DO THIS, BUT YOU COULD SAY, SO THAT THE COUNTY IS POSITIONED TO DELIVER QUALITY SERVICES IN THE FACE OF INCREASED DEMAND AND TO PREVENT THE FURTHER DIVERSION OF PROPERTY TAXES BY STATE.

>> WHAT HELPS US IS YOU HAVE BANG AND REGIONAL ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.

THAT HELPS US TREMENDOUSLY.

>> MIGHT BE EXCESSIVE, BUT YOU COULD SAY THE BIT ABOUT PROPERTY TAXES,

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AND THEN SO THAT WE CAN ACHIEVE THE REST OF OUR STRATEGIC PRIORITIES.

IF YOU REALLY WANTED TO MAP IT OUT.

>> DO YOU WANT TO ADD THAT?

>> I PERSONALLY LIKE IT.

I HAD THAT IN MIND.

IN ORDER TO DO THIS, WE'VE GOT TO ADDRESS THAT.

>> CHAIR, HAVE YOU NOTICED THAT I'VE NOT MOVED VERY FAR FROM MY MIND TODAY? I'VE DONE WELL.

>> I THINK I GIVE BOTH OF YOU AN A TODAY.

GREAT JOB. I CAN GIVE ONE TEXT MESSAGE TODAY.

>> HEY, KNOCK ON WOOD. IT MAYBE COUNT EVEN.

>> NO. LET'S NO MESS IT UP. NO.

>> CLOSE ENOUGH. FOR THE ENVIRONMENT.

WHILE MARY IS WRITING THIS ONE, I WANT TO KEEP US JUST THINKING ABOUT ONE THING, AND THAT IS WHAT YOU MENTIONED MARY EARLIER WITH WHAT YOU READ.

WILL YOU READ THAT ONE AGAIN TOO?

>> NO, I'M DOING IT. THANKS, GAY.

IN ORDER TO ACCOMPLISH THE GOALS OF THIS STRATEGIC PLAN AND BE A GOOD STEWARD OF TAXPAYER RESOURCES, YAVAPAI COUNTY WILL DEVELOP A FINANCIAL PLAN TO ADDRESS THE NEED FOR A STRUCTURALLY SOUND BUDGET, CAPITAL NEEDS, ROADS, AND A COMPENSATION STRATEGY.

THOSE CAN USE FINESSING, BUT THE FOUR ITEMS.

>> JUST AS HE'S FINISHING, I THINK EVERYBODY'S REACTION TO THAT WAS A POSITIVE.

WE'VE GOT TO DEVELOP, A FINANCIAL PLAN TO ACCOMPLISH WHAT WE SAY WE WANT TO ACCOMPLISH.

>> RIGHT. BUT WHAT I FAILED TO DO, AND IF YOU WANT TO GO THERE IS TO CALL OUT SPECIFICALLY JAIL DISTRICT TAX.

>> NO, I ACTUALLY THINK IT'S A WONDERFUL GOAL THAT'S COMPLETELY SEPARATE FROM WHAT WE JUST WROTE.

THERE'S SO MANY OTHER THINGS THAT WE NEED TO PLAN FOR.

I THINK IT'S AN APPROPRIATE SECOND GOAL.

>> YEAH, BECAUSE THE JAIL DISTRICT TAX ONLY SERVES ONE THING. IT'S NOT GOING TO SERVE.

IT WILL HELP THE WHOLE COUNTY, BUT IT DOESN'T SERVE LIKE EVERY BUILDING OR WHATEVER IT IS THAT WE WANT TO DO, IT SERVES THE JAIL.

SAY THE JAIL TAX DOES IT PASS? YOUR GOALS CAN STILL BE ACCOMPLISHED.

>> SURE. AGAIN, THEY HAVE TO BE SOMEHOW. YEAH.

>> I SHOULD SAY OUR GOALS CAN STILL BE ACCOMPLISHED.

>> BUT WE ARE USING THE JAIL TAX TO BACK FEED THE GENERAL FUND.

>> [INAUDIBLE] WE'RE USING THE GENERAL FUND TO BACKFILL THE JAIL DISTRICT.

>> WELL, THE GENERAL FUND CURRENTLY IS PAYING WHAT THE JAIL TAX SHOULD PAY.

WE'RE USING JAIL TAX DOLLARS TO FUND THE JAIL DISTRICT.

THEN GENERAL FUND DOLLARS WILL BE FREED UP FOR GENERAL FUND PURPOSES.

>> ARE YOU OFFERING TO BE OUR SPOKESPERSON?

>> OTHER DUTIES IS ASSIGNED.

>> BECAUSE I THINK WE COULD HANDLE A LOT OF THIS THE RURAL OUTREACH BUILDINGS AND FACILITIES.

I THINK WE COULD HANDLE A LOT OF THAT THROUGH WHAT WE HAVE IN RESERVES ALREADY.

WE CAN START DOING THAT TOMORROW.

>> AGREED.

>> WHAT I WANT TO DO IS I WANT TO READ YOU WHAT WE HAVE.

WE ACTUALLY HAVE I THINK, THREE STRATEGIC RESULTS RELATED TO THE GOOD GOVERNANCE.

I'LL GO BACKWARDS. THE FIRST ONE SAYS, IT'S WHAT MARTY JUST WROTE, IN ORDER TO ACCOMPLISH THE GOALS OF THIS STRATEGIC PLAN AND BE A GOOD STEWARD OF TAXPAYER RESOURCES, YAVAPAI COUNTY WILL DEVELOP A FINANCIAL PLAN TO ADDRESS STRUCTURALLY SOUND BUDGET,

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CAPITAL NEEDS, ROADS, AND COMPENSATION STRATEGY.

WE ALSO HAVE ONE THAT'S RELATED BUT DIFFERENT ENOUGH TO PULL OUT ON ITS OWN, AND IT SO THAT THE COUNTY IS POSITIONED TO DELIVER QUALITY SERVICES IN THE FACE OF INCREASED DEMAND, AND PREVENT FURTHER DIVERSION OF PROPERTY TAX REVENUES AND ACHIEVE THE GOALS OF THE COUNTY PLAN BY 20X, X, A FUNDING STREAM ADEQUATE TO PAY FOR THE COST OF THE JAIL DISTRICT WILL BE DEVELOPED.

>> MY ONLY COMMENT WOULD BE, DO YOU NEED THE STRATEGIC PLAN IN THERE NOW IF WE'VE GOT THIS ONE UP HERE?

>> YOU COULD OR YOU COULDN'T, BUT EITHER WAY, IF YOU WANTED IT IN THERE, YOU SHOULD PROBABLY POP IT UP IN THE FRONT BECAUSE IT'S A LITTLE BUSY ON THE END THERE.

>> WHEN I LIKE THAT, THEN THEY MIRROR EACH OTHER. YEAH.

>> WE HAVE ONE ON COMMUNICATION?

>> MAR.

>> THREE TIMES. WE CHANGED THE ORDER FOR YOUR REQUEST.

NOW IT SAYS SO THAT THE COUNTY IS POSITIONED TO ACHIEVE THE GOALS IN THE COUNTY STRATEGIC PLAN, DELIVER SERVICES IN THE FACE OF INCREASED DEMAND AND PREVENT THE FURTHER DIVERSION OF PROPERTY REVENUES BY X,X,X.

>> HI, MY NAME IS MARTY.

I JUST HAVE ONE COMMENT FOR YOU, AS I READ THIS WHERE IT SAYS, YOU'RE LOOKING FOR A FUNDING STREAM ADEQUATE TO PAY FOR THE COST OF THE JAIL DISTRICT.

THE JAIL DISTRICT IS THE FUNDING MECHANISM.

YOU'RE NOT LOOKING FOR MONEY TO PAY FOR A FUNDING MECHANISM.

YOU'RE LOOKING FOR MONEY TO OFFSET THE JAIL DISTRICT OR INCREASE THE JAIL DISTRICT TO PAY FOR THE JAIL OPERATIONS.

YOU'RE OFFSETTING THE GENERAL FUND.

YOU'RE WANTING TO INCREASE THE JAIL DISTRICT TO OFFSET YOUR GENERAL FUND.

YES. DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? THE WAY IT'S WRITTEN. I JUST WANTED TO THROW THAT OUT THERE.

>> YEAH, SO YOU COULD, IT'S HARD FOR ME TO READ IT, BUT YOU JUST INCREASE FUNDING FOR INSTEAD OF DEVELOP A FUNDING STREAM.

>> DO YOU INCREASE FUNDING TO PAY FOR THE COST OF JAIL OPERATION?

>> THANK YOU. CHIEF DEPUTY.

>> WHEN I WANT TO GO BACK TO I THINK IT WAS YOU, VICE CHAIR, WHO USED OR MAYBE IT WAS MAR, ONE OF YOU TOO, USED THE WORD DEPLETION OF, WHICH I LIKE THAT BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT'S HAPPENING.

IT'S A DEPLETION OF OUR GENERAL FUND AND OUR ONGOING REVENUE.

TO STOP THE HEMORRHAGING, TO STOP THE DEPLETION.

>> WE HAD DIVERSION OF FURTHER DEPLETION OF PROPERTY TAX REVENUES.

>> NO, IT IS THE DIVERSION OF PROPERTY TAX REVENUES, BUT IT'S THE DEPLETION OF.

IT WAS YOUR TURN TO TURN THE MIC ON FOR ME.

DIVERSION OF PROPERTY TAXES IS CORRECT, BUT IT'S THE DEPLETION OF THE GENERAL FUND. YEAH.

>> FURTHER DEPLETION OF THE GENERAL FUND.

>> YEAH, WE'LL SAY IT ALL.

>> I DO THINK IT'S WORTH SAYING IT ALL, BECAUSE IF THIS IS GOING TO BE OUR STICKY CONVERSATION, WE JUST HAVE IT IN PRINT IMPECCABLY.

I APPROVE OF MAKING IT A LENGTHIER STATEMENT THAN SOME OF THE OTHERS.

>> MAR IS GOING TO REWRITE THAT DRAFT SO THAT WE CAN TAKE A LOOK AT IT AND SEE WHAT WE THINK.

CHIEF DEPUTY, THANK YOU FOR THE CLARIFICATION. MAR.

>> HEY, JEREMY, WHILE WE'RE DOING THAT, I'VE LOST TRACK OF WE'VE GOT THE ONE ON COMMUNICATION.

>> IT'S OVER THERE ON THE FAR LEFT.

>> RELATED TO TRANSPARENCY.

WE'RE HEADED TOWARDS HAVING THREE HERE.

WHAT THAT WOULD LOOK LIKE THEN IS THAT WE WOULD HAVE THREE STRATEGIC RESULTS FOR INFRASTRUCTURE.

TWO FOR WATER AND OPEN SPACE, ONE FOR PUBLIC SAFETY.

I THINK TWO UNDER IF I'M COUNTING CORRECT.

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>> ACTUALLY THREE.

>> THREE UNDER HOUSING AND REGIONAL ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, AND THEN THREE UNDER GOOD GOVERNANCE.

WHAT THAT COMES OUT TO, I THINK, IS 12, IF I COUNTED CORRECTLY, AND I MAY NOT HAVE.

DID I COUNT? THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MARTIN.

I WILL TELL YOU THAT WE'LL REVIEW IT WHEN HE'S FINISHED, BUT THAT'S GOOD.

WHAT WE DON'T WANT TO GET INTO A SITUATION OF, AND I WILL BE HONEST WITH YOU, IT'S EASY TO DO THAT AT THIS POINT BECAUSE, HEY, IF WE GOT THAT ONE, LET'S GET THIS ONE.

IT'S LIKE DRINKING THAT OLD.

BUT YOU'VE GOT 12 BIG THINGS TO DO.

WHEN I SAY BIG, I MEAN BIG.

ONE OF THESE IS A HEFTY LOAD.

I WOULD ENCOURAGE YOU UNLESS THERE'S JUST A 800 POUND GORILLA SOMEWHERE, YOU'VE DONE WELL.

THAT WOULD BE MY JUST.

>> I THINK WE GOT THE 800 POUND GORILLA ALREADY.

I DON'T REALLY THINK I WANT ANOTHER ONE, AND I'M PRETTY GOOD WITH WHERE WE'RE AT.

SINCE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT GOALS, DID WE HAVE A GOAL TO KEEP UNDER THE NUMBER OF STRATEGIC RESULTS? I KNOW WE HAD FIVE.

WAS THERE A NUMBER FOR THE?

>> NO, YOU DID. WE BUDGETED FOR UP TO ABOUT 12.

>> GREAT.

>> WE JUST ACHIEVED A GOAL.

I JUST WANT TO RING THAT BELL.

>> SINCE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT 800 POUND GORILLAS, WHEN WE LOOK AT COMPENSATION STRATEGY, WE DIDN'T STAY UP WITH THAT. WE DIDN'T FIX THAT.

JUD TOOK CARE OF THAT FOR US.

THE OTHER THING, THE 800 POUND GORILLA IS OUR MASSIVE UNFUNDED LIABILITY THAT WE HAVE YET TO TACKLE. MASSIVE.

TAL WAS WHISPERING IN MY.

THAT'S WHAT WOULD BE PART OF OUR FINANCIAL PLAN, THOUGH. YEAH, WE GOT TWO.

>> WHICH IS THAT MIDDLE, THE LAST GOAL THAT WE SET FOR GOOD GOVERNANCE.

THAT FITS IN THERE.

>> I WANT TO TALK TO YOU WHILE HE'S DOING THIS.

LET ME JUST GO AHEAD AND TALK TO YOU ABOUT WHAT NEXT STEPS LOOK LIKE.

YOU HAVE A GOOD IDEA. THAT WAY, WE'RE NOT ALL SITTING HERE LISTENING TO THE JEOPARDY MUSIC RIGHT IN OUR HEADS.

WHAT HAPPENS FOLLOWING THIS RETREAT IS MARV AND I WORK TO GET YOU BACK A DRAFT.

WE'LL SEND THAT TO MAURY AND TYLER AND MARTIN.

WHAT HAPPENS THEN IS THAT WE ASKED THEM TO GO BACK TO THEIR STAFF AND PROPOSE STRETCH TARGET DATES FOR THESE BECAUSE HERE'S THE THING, THEY ALL CAN'T BE DO AT THE SAME TIME.

SOME ARE MORE URGENT, SOME ARE DOABLE FASTER THAN OTHERS.

SO THAT IN A MONTH, MARV AND I ARE GOING TO COME BACK.

FOR EACH OF THESE STRATEGIC RESULTS, WE'RE GOING TO SPEND A HALF A DAY WORKING WITH DEPARTMENT DIRECTORS.

I'LL USE THIS SLANG TERM, WHO HAVE A DOG IN THE FIGHT.

THE FINANCE WILL BE INVOLVED PROBABLY, BECAUSE WE'LL BE TALKING ABOUT SOME THINGS RELATED TO THAT.

THAT'S A COMMON THING.

BUT A HALF A DAY FOR EACH ONE OF THESE.

THE IDEA IN THE HALF DAY SESSION IS TO SAY, FROM TODAY OR ROUGHLY TO BE MID-SEPTEMBER, UNTIL THE GOAL COMES DUE, WHAT ARE THE STRATEGIES? WHAT ARE THE ACTION ITEMS, MILESTONES, PERFORMANCE MEASURES, REQUIRED RESOURCES, PARTNERSHIPS THAT NEED TO BE MOVING ALONG? THE IDEA THERE IS THAT FROM MY BOARD PERSPECTIVE, ON A PERIODIC BASIS QUARTERLY, WHATEVER YOU GUYS DECIDE, QUARTERLY, SEMI ANNUALLY, WHATEVER.

YOUR COUNTY ADMINISTRATION COMES TO YOU AND SAYS, BOARD, YOU HAVE THIS GOAL.

HERE'S WHERE WE'RE AT.

HERE'S WHAT WE'VE DONE THIS LAST QUARTER, THIS LAST SIX MONTHS.

HERE'S WHAT'S COMING UP.

OH, HERE'S WHAT'S BEEN SUCCESSFUL.

HERE'S WHERE WE'VE HAD A CHALLENGE.

CAN YOU HELP US ON THIS? SO THAT YOU ARE INVOLVED IN KNOWING WHERE YOU'RE AT AND YOU CAN TELL THAT STORY TO YOUR CONSTITUENTS AND HELP MAKE DECISIONS WHERE IT NEED BE.

BUT THERE WILL LIKELY BE SOME DECISION POINTS RELATED TO RESOURCES.

WELL, YOU HAVE TO MAKE SOME HARD DECISIONS.

THESE IMPLEMENTATION PLANS ARE NOT SET IN STONE BECAUSE THEY'RE GOING TO BE ADDED TO TWEAKED, BUT THEY'RE DESIGNED TO GET THE GOALS COMPLETED BY THE DUE DATES.

THAT'S THE WAY YOU SET UP THE WHAT, WHICH ARE THESE GOALS, AND THEN THE HOW IS THE IMPLEMENTATION PLAN ROADMAPS.

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>> WE HAVE THAT JEOPARDY MUSIC PLAN.

>> THAT'S OKAY. WE HAVE THOSE DIRECTIONS.

>> NOW DO WE WANT TO GO THROUGH THIS? JUST READ THIS REAL QUICK? YES, MA'AM.

IT SAYS, SO THAT THE COUNTY CAN ACHIEVE THE GOALS IN THE COUNTY STRATEGIC PLAN, DELIVER QUALITY SERVICE IN THE FACE OF INCREASED DEMAND AND PREVENT THE DIVERSION OF PROPERTY REVENUES AND FURTHER DEPLETION OF THE GENERAL FUND.

BY 20XX, FUNDING WILL BE INCREASED TO FULLY PAY FOR THE FOR JAIL OPERATIONS.

>> SPECIAL FUNDING.

>> SPECIAL FUNDING WILL BE INCREASED?

>> IT IS A SPECIAL FUNDING.

THAT'S FINE. WELL, LIKE YOU SAID, I GOT THAT FROM JEFF.

CLEARLY, IT CAN BE GENERAL FUND BECAUSE IT ALREADY ID.

IF WE NEED TO INCREASE PROPERTY TAXES TO PUT TOWARDS THAT THROUGH THE GENERAL FUND THE SAME WAY WE'RE DOING NOW, THAT'S WHAT WE'RE SAYING.

>> I'M JUST SAYING I DON'T HAVE ANY DESIRE ON INCREASING THE PROPERTY TAX.

MY DESIRE IS THAT WE ARE ABLE TO HAVE A CONVERSATION AND DIALOGUE WITH THE COMMUNITY.

WE'LL HAVE TO PUT THE WHOLE STORY, AND IT'S A STORY WE HAVE TO KEEP REPEATING FROM THE TIME THAT IT WAS ACTUALLY BROUGHT OUT HERE AND HOW THEY BROUGHT THIS DISTRICT.

WE ARE ALREADY USING THE GENERAL FUND TO TAKE CARE OF THIS LACK OF FUNDING IN THE JAIL DISTRICT TAX.

WE WANT TO STOP USING OUR GENERAL FUND MONEY SO THAT WE CAN TAKE CARE OF THE NEEDS IN THE COUNTY, HOW THAT LOOKS WHEN YOU HAVE COMPLAINTS REGARDING ROADS, AND YOUR CODE ENFORCEMENT AND ALL OF THOSE THINGS.

HONESTLY, RAISING THE PROPERTY TAX IS NOT IN MY MIND AT ALL.

I'M JUST GOING TO SAY THAT THAT'S NOT IN MY MIND.

I DIDN'T HEAR THAT AT ALL IN THE LAST TWO DAYS. I MISSED SOMETHING.

>> I'M DEFINITELY OKAY WITH HAVING THE WORD SPECIAL THERE BECAUSE IT SHOWS OUR INTENT, EVEN IF WE ARE UNABLE TO ACHIEVE IT.

THEN OUR SPHERE OF INFLUENCE, THAT'S OUR DIRECTION, AND I THINK IT ROADMAPS THAT.

THAT DOES MAKE SENSE TO ME.

>> THE WHOLE REASON THAT WE ENDED UP DOING A PROPERTY TAX INCREASE FOR THE VERY FACT IS THAT THIS DID NOT PASS IN 2014, AND WE WERE TAXED AS A COUNTY THAT WE HAD TO DO THE WORK WE HAD TO DO SO WE COULD KEEP THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT OUT OF OUR BACKYARD BECAUSE THEY'LL JUST COME IN, AND THEY'LL JUST HAND US INVOICES AFTER INVOICES AFTER INVOICES, AND WE JUST GET TO PAY THEM, AND WE DON'T HAVE A VOICE, AND WE DON'T WANT TO LOSE OUR VOICE.

>> HERE'S WHAT I'D LIKE TO DO. [LAUGHTER] I HAD THAT URGE TO STAND UP.

I'M GOING TO SIT RIGHT BACK DOWN. THAT'S HARD FOR ME.

I'M A MOVE MOVING GUY.

AGAIN, WHAT I WANT TO TELL YOU IS FIRST AND FOREMOST, YOU'VE DONE A FANTASTIC JOB.

YOU REALLY HAVE IN THIS PROCESS.

YOU'VE MADE DECISIONS.

WE'VE BEEN IN PLACES WHERE ELECTED BODIES DON'T COME TO CONSENSUS.

THEY DON'T MAKE DECISIONS. WE'VE NOT HAD THAT ISSUE HERE.

YOU'VE DONE A GOOD JOB. YOU HAVE 12 STRATEGIC RESULTS ACROSS FIVE STRATEGIC PRIORITIES.

AGAIN, I JUST WANT TO REINFORCE THREE INFRASTRUCTURE.

IN WATER AND OPEN SPACE, WE HAVE STRATEGIES AND GOALS THAT WILL POSITIVELY IMPACT WATER RESOURCES AND OPEN SPACE, AND THEN ONE ABOUT THE COMPLETION OF A PLAN DEDICATED TO OPEN SPACE.

PUBLIC SAFETY, WE TALK ABOUT WORKING WITH OUR PARTNERS TO DEVELOP A REGIONAL APPROACH TO 911 EMERGENCY COMMUNICATIONS IN HOUSING AND REGIONAL ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.

WE'VE GOT ONE THAT SAYS THE SAME THING, BUT REALLY FOCUSED ON INCREASING THE LIVABLE WAGE AND RECRUITING INDUSTRY,

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SUBCONTRACTORS, SMALL BUSINESSES, ENTREPRENEURS.

THEN THE THIRD ONE RELATED TO HOUSING AND REGIONAL ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT IS IMPROVING THE TRANSIT EXPERIENCE.

THEN FINALLY, WE HAVE THREE UNDER THE GOOD GOVERNANCE HEADING.

THE FIRST ONE HAS TO DO WITH COMMUNICATIONS IN GENERAL ACROSS THE PLAN, WHICH SAYS CONTINUING 2025-2028, AND GOING FORWARD, THE PEOPLE OF YAVAPAI COUNTY WILL EXPERIENCE ENHANCED TRANSPARENCY, COMMUNICATIONS, AND COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT.

NOT ONE WAY, TWO WAY.

THEN WE HAVE SO THAT THE COUNTY CAN ACHIEVE THE GOALS, AND THE COUNTY STRATEGIC PLAN, DELIVER QUALITY SERVICES IN THE FACE OF INCREASED DEMAND AND PREVENT THE DIVERSION OF PROPERTY TAX REVENUES AND FURTHER DEPLETION OF THE GENERAL FUND.

BY 20XX, SPECIAL FUNDING WILL BE INCREASED TO FULLY PAY FOR JAIL OPERATIONS.

THEN LAST BUT NOT LEAST, WE HAVE IN ORDER TO ACCOMPLISH THE GOALS OF THIS STRATEGIC PLAN AND BE A GOOD STEWARD OF TAXPAYER RESOURCES, YAVAPAI COUNTY WILL DEVELOP A FINANCIAL PLAN TO ADDRESS A STRUCTURALLY SOUND BUDGET, CAPITAL NEEDS, ROADS, AND COMPENSATION STRATEGY.

[APPLAUSE] GIVE YOURSELF A HAND.

AGAIN, NEXT STEPS FOR US IS TO GET THIS DRAFT BACK TO TAMARI, ALLOW HIM TIME TO WORK WITH DEPARTMENT DIRECTORS TO GET SOME PROPOSED DUE DATES.

AGAIN, LOOKING AT THEM IN THEIR TOTALITY AND THEN WE WILL BE BACK IN A MONTH WORKING WITH YOUR OPERATIONAL STAFF TO START CRAFTING UP THESE IMPLEMENTATION PLANS THAT WILL HELP MOVE THESE THINGS DOWN THE ROAD.

AGAIN, YOU REALLY HAVE SET THE STAGE WITH THE WHAT? THE WHAT IS KEY, BECAUSE WITHOUT THE WHAT, LITTLE STORY ON THE SIDE.

MY WIFE'S LIVED IN OUR COMMUNITY.

SHE'S FROM AT YAKIMA, WASHINGTON.

WITHOUT SIRI, SHE WOULD GET LOST.

WITHOUT KNOWING WHERE YOU'RE GOING, ANY PLACE WILL DO.

THESE ALLOW US TO KNOW WHERE WE'RE GOING AT A HIGH LEVEL.

NOW OUR OPERATIONS CAN ALIGN TO COLLABORATE TO GET THESE RESULTS DONE FOR YOU ALL AS AN ELECTED BODY AND FOR THE COMMUNITY.

AGAIN, CONGRATULATIONS TO YOU.

DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OF MARY AND I?

>> I DON'T HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.

I WILL JUST SAY THAT IT WAS A VERY GOOD EXPERIENCE. I REALLY LIKE THIS.

OF COURSE, THE WORK IS DEFINITELY AHEAD OF US BECAUSE AS I LOOK BEHIND ME, THERE'S A LOT OF DIRECTORS, AND I KNOW THERE'S A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT ARE ONLINE AND WHATEVER, SO WE ARE GOING TO BE HELD ACCOUNTABLE WITH ALL OF THESE AND WHAT WILL THAT PROGRESS LOOK LIKE IN A YEAR FROM NOW.

>> MADAM CHAIR, LET ME SAY THIS REAL QUICK.

DEPENDING ON WHEN THESE AGAIN, WE HAVE A TIME FRAME, FOR SOME OF THESE.

SOME ARE URGENT THAN OTHERS.

LET'S JUST SAY YOU HAVE A GOAL THAT'S MAYBE FIVE YEARS OUT. I'M MAKING THIS UP.

DON'T EVEN PRETEND TO THINK ONE'S FIVE YEAR.

BUT LET'S SAY EVERYONE IS FIVE YEARS OUT.

YOU MAY END UP WITH A PERIOD WHERE MARY OR TYLER OR MARTIN IS COMING BEFORE YOU AS A BOARD TO GIVE YOU AN UPDATE, AND THEY HIT ONE OF THESE GOALS THAT'S FIVE YEARS OUT, AND NOT A LOT IS HAPPENING IN THE QUARTER, BECAUSE MAYBE IT'LL HAPPEN NEXT QUARTER OR WHATEVER.

SOME GOALS WILL BE MORE ACTIVE THAN OTHERS DEPENDING ON WHEN THEY COME DUE.

I'LL SEE THE ONES THAT ARE COMING DUE SOONER.

WE'LL PROBABLY HAVE A LOT MORE ACTIVITY, BUT THE IDEA IS THAT YOUR OPERATIONS ARE MANAGING UP TO YOU AND COMMUNICATING CHALLENGES, SUCCESSES, SO THAT THEN YOU CAN HELP MAKE SOME DECISIONS AND OR TELL YOUR STORY TO CONSTITUENTS THAT YOU'RE DOING WHAT YOU SAID YOU WERE GOING TO DO.

>> MY QUESTION IS JUST, DO WE HAVE A FOLLOW UP MEETING SCHEDULED ON OUR CALENDAR ALREADY IN SEPTEMBER, IS THAT YET TO COME?

>> BY FOLLOW UP MEETING.

>> THE FOLLOW UP.

>> TO SEE THIS?

>> WE'LL DO THAT AFTER WE MEET WITH THEM AGAIN HERE IN SEPTEMBER TO DEVELOP THEM.

>> WE'RE NOT INVOLVED IN THAT MEETING?

>> HERE'S WHAT I WOULD SUGGEST.

PEOPLE ASKED THIS A LOT.

THEY SAID, "DOES THE BOARD APPROVE THE STRATEGIC PLAN OR THE STRATEGIC PLAN IN THE IMPLEMENTATION PLAN?" I'M GOING TO BE VERY HONEST WITH YOU.

IF A JURISDICTION WANTS ITS PLAN ADOPTED, PERIOD, YOU ADOPT THE STRATEGIC PLAN, WHICH IS THIS, BECAUSE THE IMPLEMENTATION PLAN CHANGES AS YOU BEGIN TO IMPLEMENT.

IT WILL CHANGE A LOT.

IF YOU'RE CLEAR ON THE WHAT, THE WHAT SHOULD NOT CHANGE.

THE IMPLEMENTATION WILL, SO IT'LL BE UP TO YOU AS A BOARD, I WOULD RECOMMEND THAT YOU APPROVE THROUGH CONSENSUS OR HOWEVER YOU NEED TO DO IT, OR THROUGH VOTES IN YOUR PROCESS,

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THE COUNTY STRATEGIC PLAN SO THAT THERE IS A CHARGE BY YOUR STAFF AND YOUR LEADERSHIP TO TAKE THIS AND MOVE IT AHEAD.

>> FOR THE BENEFIT OF US AND THE PUBLIC, I WOULD PREFER TO SEE ANOTHER SPECIAL STUDY SESSION SCHEDULED TO JUST REVIEW THE IMPLEMENTATION PLAN, TO SEE WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE AS FAR AS OUR WORK GOES.

>> LET ME SPEAK TO THIS.

>> SINCE WE CAN OPEN MEETING.

>> HERE'S WHAT I WOULD SAY.

YOUR LOOKING TO THE IMPLEMENTATION PLAN SHOULD COME THROUGH YOUR UPDATES FROM YOUR COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR.

AGAIN, I'LL GIVE YOU A GREAT EXAMPLE.

I'M IN BALDWIN COUNTY, ALABAMA, WORKING WITH THEIR COUNTY COMMISSION.

BALDWIN COUNTY REDNECK RIVIERA.

YOU'VE BEEN THERE, BROOKS, I CAN TELL.

HERE'S THE DEAL. [LAUGHTER] WE'RE DOWN THERE AND THEY DEVELOP A STRATEGIC RESULT RELATED TO ENGAGING THE COMMUNITY.

ONE OF THEIR RESULTS WAS ABOUT SENDING OUT A SURVEY.

WE HAD NOT EVEN GOTTEN OUT OF THE MEETING LIKE THIS WHEN ONE OF THEIR SUPERVISORS SAID, "WELL, I'M GOING TO TELL YOU THE QUESTION YOU NEED TO ASK." WE HAD TO REALLY SAY, SIR, I'M SORRY, TIME OUT.

THAT'S NOT YOUR ROLE.

YOU LET YOUR STAFF DEVELOP THE IMPLEMENTATION, AND THEY'LL MANAGE UP TO YOU, AND YOU PROVIDE INPUT, BUT WE DO NOT, IT WILL NOT BE HELPFUL FOR YOU AS A COUNTY BOARD OF SUPERVISORS TO BE INTO THE IMPLEMENTATION DETAILS OUTSIDE OF THE UPDATES THAT ARE PROVIDED TO YOU.

YOU'LL GET AN OPPORTUNITY TO PROVIDE YOUR INPUT, BUT IT WILL NEVER GET GOING.

>> WELL, LET ME BE CLEAR THEN, THERE'S NOT GOING TO BE A COMPILED DOCUMENT WITH IMPLEMENTATION PLANS AVAILABLE.

>> WELL I WOULD APPRECIATE A PRESENTATION ON THOSE, NOT FOR BOARD APPROVAL OR DISCUSSION, BUT PEER EDUCATION.

>> I'M SORRY, I MISUNDERSTAND.

>>> LET ME PUT A FINER POINT ON AND THOSE REPORTS BE MADE IN PUBLIC, AND YOUR STAFF WILL BE LISTENING TO YOUR RESPONSE TO THAT, AND TAKING THAT INTO CONSIDERATION AND MAKING NEEDED ADJUSTMENTS AS WE GO.

YES, JEREMY'S EXACTLY RIGHT, BUT ON THE OTHER HAND, IF YOU WILL, WE'RE GOING TO BE LISTENING TO YOUR THOUGHTS AND YOUR DIRECTION ON, YES, WE LIKE WHERE YOU'RE GOING.

YOU'RE ON TARGET, OR WE THINK THERE NEEDS TO BE SOME ADJUSTMENTS.

>> DO YOU ALREADY HAVE A TIMELINE GOAL TO HAVE THAT DOCUMENT COMPLETE, OR THAT'S SOMETHING YOU'LL DECIDE ON THAT TIMELINE IN SEPTEMBER?

>> YES, BECAUSE WE NEED TO DO THE NEXT STEP IS TO MEET AS JEREMY LAID OUT THERE WITH THE DEPARTMENT DIRECTORS AND PUT IT ALL TOGETHER.

>> GREAT. THANK YOU.

>> WE'LL BE BACK THE FIRST OF THE WEEK, THAT SEPTEMBER 20TH-22ND, I BELIEVE.

THEN FOLLOWING THOSE MEETINGS, WE'LL PUT TOGETHER THE DRAFT IMPLEMENTATION PLAN, WHICH WILL BE 12 IMPLEMENTATION PLANS.

THEN WE'LL GET THAT BACK JUST LIKE WE'RE DOING WITH THIS TO YOUR COUNTY ADMINISTRATION SO THAT ALL CAN PROCEED FURTHER.

>> BACK TO SOMETHING YOU SAID ABOUT 10 MINUTES AGO, WHICH IS WHY I'M BRINGING IT UP.

I THINK WE NEED AN OPERATIONS PLAN WHERE WE BETTER ARE ABLE TO SPEAK WITH EACH OTHER, BETTER INTERACT WITH STAFF, AND MANAGEMENT AND REALLY GET WE'VE MADE A MAJOR SHIFT IN HOW THIS IS MANAGED HERE AT THE COUNTY, AND WE'RE HITTING BUMPS HERE AND THERE.

I DON'T THINK IT'S ANYTHING THAT CAN'T BE FIXED, BUT IT NEEDS TO GET CLEARER AND HOW WE TALK WITH EACH OTHER AND HOW WE COMMUNICATE WITH STAFF.

>> MY TAKE HOME IS THIS IS NOT A STANDALONE PLAN.

THROUGH THE YEAR, I'M GOING TO BE LOOKING AT AND COMPARING HOW THE FACILITY MASTER PLAN TIES IN TO THE STRATEGIC PLAN.

WHEN THE BUDGET COMES TO US NEXT YEAR, AND AS OTHER AGENDA ITEMS COME, I'M ALWAYS GOING TO BE THINKING ABOUT, DOES THAT MEET THESE GOALS HERE? THIS IS A LIVING WORKING DOCUMENT AND SHOULD BE A ROADMAP FOR STAFF.

>> ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WILL COME TO YOU ARE OPPORTUNITIES TO SAY NO, OR NOT NOW, OR MAYBE LATER, THANK YOU VERY MUCH TO OTHER IDEAS THAT COME YOUR WAY.

OTHER THINGS WILL COME TOWARDS YOU.

YOU'LL FIND NEW IDEAS OR YOU'LL HEAR ABOUT ANOTHER THING TO FOCUS ON.

REMEMBER THE QUOTE THAT I SHARED WITH YOU FROM DAVID MANNING, THE MOST IMPORTANT AND HARDEST THING FOR GOVERNMENT TO DO IS GET FOCUSED ON RESULTS AND STAY FOCUSED LONG ENOUGH IN ORDER TO ACHIEVE THEM.

YOU WILL BE TESTED TO SUSTAIN

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DECISION DISCIPLINE THAT THESE ARE YOUR PRIORITIES AND YOUR GOALS.

YOU'LL HAVE ANOTHER CHANCE IN A COUPLE OF YEARS.

WE RECOMMEND, AGAIN, LOOKING AT THIS IN TWO OR THREE YEARS TO SEE IF ANYTHING HAS SHIFTED, OR IF SOME OF THESE THINGS HAVE BEEN ACCOMPLISHED AND CAN BE PUT INTO OPERATIONS OR CHECKED OFF, OR SOMETHING ELSE HAS COME ALONG THAT YOU REALLY NEED TO ADD TO THE STRATEGIC PLAN.

BUT USING THIS AS A ROADMAP, YOU KNOW WHAT A ROADMAP IS LIKE, WE CROSSED OVER FROM NEW MEXICO INTO ARIZONA, SO I HAD TO FLIP A PAGE.

SOMETIMES YOU HAVE TO FLIP A PAGE.

DON'T LET TOO MUCH TIME GO BY BEFORE LOOKING AT THIS AGAIN.

AFTER EVEN TWO YEARS, MALLORY AND THE TEAM WILL HAVE SO MUCH INFORMATION ABOUT IMPLEMENTATION, YOU ALREADY HAVE THAT, YOU'LL KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON.

BUT DON'T LET THIS PLAN BECOME ANYTHING OTHER THAN STRATEGIC.

IF YOU LET IT GO PAST THREE YEARS, YOU'RE NO LONGER STRATEGICALLY MANAGING IF YOU'RE USING THIS PLAN.

SECONDLY, IF MEMBERS OF THE BOARD CHANGE, REVISE IT, UPDATE IT, BECAUSE IT'S NO LONGER THAT BOARD'S PLAN.

REALLY IMPORTANT, EVERYBODY.

IF ONE OF YOU DECIDES TO GO FISHING, THAT'S MY TERMINOLOGY FOR YOU'RE RETIRING, OR IF THERE'S AN ELECTION OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

TAKE CARE OF THIS PLAN BECAUSE IT REALLY REPRESENTS THE FOUNDATIONAL DECISIONS THAT THE ELECTED BODY FOR THIS VERY LARGE, VERY IMPORTANT COMMUNITY AND COUNTY ARE.

THIS IS YOUR PLAN, AND WE REALLY RECOMMEND THAT YOU STICK WITH IT.

IF SOME SMALL THINGS CHANGE, CHANGE THEM.

SOMETHING ELSE COMES UP, ADD IT, BUT KNOW THAT THERE IS A WORKLOAD ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THIS FOR MALLORY AND THE WHOLE TEAM.

IT'S GREAT THAT YOU'VE GOT 12 AND NOT 14 OR 16 OR 20, BUT THIS IS A LOT.

THE OTHER THING, I THINK, AND I KNOW JEREMY HAS MENTIONED THIS IS SOME OF THESE THINGS WILL TAKE RESOURCES.

YOU WILL HAVE TO ALLOCATE OR EVEN CHANGE REPURPOSE MONEY TO ACHIEVE SOME OF THESE GOALS.

MAY NOT ALL BE NEW REVENUE, BUT YOU'RE GOING TO DEFINITELY HAVE TO MAKE RESOURCE DECISIONS TO ACCOMPLISH THESE GOALS.

SOMETIMES IT MEANS MORE STAFF AS WELL.

JUST KNOW THAT. THESE GOALS WILL NOT HAPPEN ON THEIR OWN.

I KNOW THE ROOM JUST GOT VERY QUIET WITH ME WHEN I SAID, YOU MAY HAVE TO ADD PEOPLE OR ADD RESOURCES, BUT THAT'S YOUR JOB.

YOUR JOB IS TO MAKE THIS PLAN POSSIBLE BY ALLOCATING RESOURCES TO IT, HELPING TO CREATE PARTNERSHIPS, HELPING TO SUPPORT THE TEAM, AND ALSO TO REMOVE BARRIERS.

>> I BELIEVE THE WORD YOU'RE SEARCHING FOR IS ADJOURNMENT.

>> I JUST WANT TO SAY THOUGH THAT THIS BOARD ISN'T COSTING, AND I THINK THAT'S DIFFERENT.

I THINK YOU GOT FIVE PEOPLE THAT KNOW HOW TO WORK, WE'RE HANDLING GIANT THINGS.

JUST THIS REZONING STUDY WE'RE DOING IS HUGE.

WE'RE TACKLING GIANT BIG PROJECTS, AND WE'RE IN MONTH 8 FOR MOST OF US.

>> I WOULD ENCOURAGE YOU, BASED UPON THAT COMMENT, GET OUT THERE AND TELL YOUR STORY.

AGAIN, START WE'LL END THE WAY WE STARTED.

IF YOU GUYS DON'T TELL ABOUT THE STUFF THAT YOU'RE DOING IN YAVAPAI COUNTY, SOMEBODY ELSE IS GOING TO TELL IT FOR YOU.

GET AFTER IT. KEEP DOING IT.

>> INCLUDING THESE TWO DAYS.