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OKAY. I'M GOING TO CALL THIS SPECIAL MEETING TO ORDER.IT'S WEDNESDAY, OCTOBER 2ND, TEN BEYOND 10:30 A.M., OBVIOUSLY, SO WE CAN HEAR THIS MATTER.
ALL ITEMS ARE POTENTIAL ACTION ITEMS AS NORMAL.
PURSUANT. BOARD OF SUPERVISORS, VOTE TO GO INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION.
CITIZENS ARE ENCOURAGED TO WATCH THE MEETING VIRTUALLY.
DOT WEB@YAVAPAI.GOV 24 HOURS PRIOR TO THE BOARD MEETING.
OKAY. WE ARE CALLED TO ORDER AND NEED A ROLL CALL.
AND OKAY, WE'RE MOVING INTO THE STUDY SESSION.
[1. Facilities - Study session to review and discuss the project priorities presented in the final report of the Space Planning Study. Facilities Director Brandon Shoults and County Manager Maury Thompson will discuss the recommendations made by the Space Planning Steering Committee. (All Districts)]
SO WITH THAT I'M GOING TO GO AHEAD AND GIVE IT TO OUR FACILITIES DIRECTOR.SINCE THIS IS FACILITIES MATTER.
I DON'T HAVE HIM ON MY AGENDA.
I DON'T SEE HIS NAME ANYWHERE.
IT JUST SAYS MAURY THOMPSON AND BRANDON SCHULTZ.
THEN DELEGATE TO THE ASSISTANT COUNTY MANAGER.
YOU'RE RIGHT. TYLER. I WILL TAKE IT.
I WAS PREPARED FOR THAT, SO THAT'S OKAY.
VICE CHAIR. MEMBERS OF THE BOARD AGAIN.
TYLER GOODMAN, ASSISTANT COUNTY MANAGER.
JUST TO GIVE A LITTLE BACKGROUND ON THIS TOPIC.
WE'RE BACK WITH THAT INFORMATION.
AND IT REALLY FOCUSES ON PROJECT PRIORITIES AND RECOMMENDATIONS.
AND FOR THOSE IN THE PUBLIC LISTENING, WATCHING FROM HOME.
THIS FACILITIES MASTER PLAN IS REALLY THE FIRST OF ITS KIND FOR THE COUNTY.
AND IT'S TRULY A STRATEGIC AND COMPREHENSIVE APPROACH TO LOOK AT COUNTY SERVICES, COUNTY LEVEL OF SERVICES AND TYPES OF SERVICES THAT THE BOARD WISHES TO SEE OVER THE NEXT 20 YEARS.
SO THIS IS A CHANCE TO LOOK AT THAT IN DETAIL.
AND OUR GOAL AS STAFF FOR THIS STUDY SESSION IS TO RECEIVE YOUR GUIDANCE AND DIRECTION ON WHAT SPECIFIC PRIORITIES YOU HAVE FOR FACILITIES. YOU'LL SEE, AS WE GET INTO THE PRESENTATION THAT WE'VE COME DOWN TO A RECOMMENDED LIST, BUT WE'D REALLY LIKE YOUR GUIDANCE AND INPUT ON THAT SO THAT WE CAN MOVE FORWARD WITH BUDGETING AND PLANNING AND COMING FORWARD AT A FUTURE DATE WITH A LOT MORE INFORMATION TO SHARE WITH YOU.
IS THIS GOING TO BE WITH RECOMMENDATIONS, OR IS THIS GOING TO BE JUST A DOCUMENT WHERE WE MAKE DECISIONS? WELL, WHAT WE HAVE BEFORE YOU, IT COULD BE BOTH, BUT LIKELY WHAT WE HAVE BEFORE YOU IS THE PROJECT PRIORITIZATION THAT HAS BEEN RECOMMENDED BY THE STEERING COMMITTEE. AND THERE'S A TIMELINE ASSOCIATED WITH THAT, WHICH OF COURSE IS LIKELY GOING TO BE FLUID AS THINGS COME AND GO.
IS THAT HOW OLD IS THAT? THAT THAT'S VERY RECENT FROM THE FROM THE RECOMMENDING COMMITTEE IN THE LAST I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY MONTHS.
WE HAD IT THEN. YEAH, WELL, AND THAT'S THE POINT.
HOW OLD IS THE INFORMATION FROM THE CONTRACTOR? OH, AND I'LL LET BRANDON ADDRESS THAT.
BUT FAIRLY RECENTLY WE RECEIVED THE FINAL REPORT.
FINAL REPORT WAS, I BELIEVE, DELIVERED IN AUGUST WHEN WE HAD OUR FIRST INITIAL MEETING.
WE ACTUALLY HAD GENSLER IN THE COTTONWOOD BOARD OFFICE OVER THERE, THE BOARDROOM.
AND THAT WAS THE INITIAL PRESENTATION, THE CULMINATION OF THE REPORT.
AND THIS IS JUST A CONTINUATION OF THAT DISCUSSION.
WHEN DID WE ORIGINALLY ASK FOR THIS REPORT? IT'S BEEN ABOUT 14 MONTHS, I BELIEVE, FROM THE INITIATION OF THE DIRECTION.
SO THIS IS 14 MONTHS OLD, AT LEAST.
NO, SIR. 14 MONTHS AGO, I GOT DIRECTION FROM THE BOARD TO PURSUE THE REPORT.
WE THEN WENT OUT THROUGH AN RFP PROCESS, WHICH TAKES TIME TO SELECT A VENDOR.
AFTER WE HAD THE VENDOR, WE NEGOTIATED A CONTRACT.
THEN WE PROCEEDED FOR ABOUT TEN MONTHS TO DATA COLLECT, WHICH IS ACTUALLY THE FIRST PAGE OF THE ATTACHMENT OF THE MASTER PLAN THAT WE HAVE DONE.
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SO THE FIRST SHEET IN YOUR GUYS' PACKET, AND AS SOON AS WE CAN GET IT UP HERE REALLY SHOWS THE BREADTH AND THE SCOPE OF THE WORK THAT WAS DONE.OKAY. LET'S JUMP OVER ALL THAT.
GET BACK TO WHAT WE'RE INTENDED TO DO HERE.
THIS IS ACTUALLY PART OF MY PRESENTATION.
SO IT'S A GREAT QUESTION THAT YOU HAD.
THAT SEEMS LIKE WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT IT FOR TEN YEARS, AND SOME DAYS, LONGER DOG YEARS.
THANK YOU. QUICK INTRODUCTION.
I'M BRANDON SCHULTZ, I'M DIRECTOR OF FACILITIES DEPARTMENT.
AND TO CONTINUE ON RESPONDING TO YOUR QUESTION YEAH.
THE FIRST PAGE OF YOUR GUYS' ATTACHMENT, REALLY, AGAIN, IS TAKEN FROM THE ORIGINAL REPORT.
WE WANTED TO LIST THAT WE HAVE LOOKED AT 70 LOCATIONS.
THE SUBSTATIONS TOUCHED EVERYTHING THAT WE HAD OCCUPIED.
WE ALSO WORKED WITH ALL OF OUR DIFFERENT DEPARTMENTS.
WE ENGAGED ALL OF OUR INTERNAL DEPARTMENTS, AND WE EVEN ENGAGED SOME EXTERNAL DEPARTMENTS ON SOME CONVERSATIONS WITH SOME CENTRAL YAVAPAI METROPOLITAN PLANNING ORGANIZATION AS WELL AS THE LIBRARY DISTRICTS AND EDUCATION SERVICES.
WE WENT TO ALL THE BUILDINGS, WE LOOKED AT A LOT OF STUFF.
ALL RIGHT. I SEE THE PRESENTATION COMING UP LIVE THERE.
SO THAT'S THAT FIRST SHEET THERE THAT WE WERE JUST TALKING ABOUT.
YOU KNOW, THAT'S BEEN A REOCCURRING THEME.
WE'VE HEARD SOME FROM SOME OF OUR OTHER VENDORS.
WE MAY HAVE SOME OLDER BUILDINGS.
THEY MAY BE UNDERSIZED, BUT GENERALLY THEY ARE IN GOOD SHAPE.
AND THAT'S KUDOS TO BOTH MY STAFF, THE ENTIRE FACILITIES DEPARTMENT AND YOU GUYS AS BOARD MEMBERS.
THE SECOND PAGE IN OUR ATTACHMENT SHOWS THE FORECASTED POPULATION GROWTH OVER THE NEXT 20 YEARS.
THANK YOU. AS WE CAN SEE, MOST OF OUR ENTIRE COUNTY IS GOING TO SEE GROWTH.
AND WE'RE GOING TO SEE CONTINUED GROWTH HEAVILY IN THE PRESCOTT VALLEY AREA.
IT SEEMS TO BE WHERE A LOT OF THE GROWTH IS EXPECTED.
BUT IT'S GOOD FOR US TO UNDERSTAND HOW OUR POPULATION IS GROWING AND WHERE OUR CONSTITUENTS ARE GOING TO BE AT, AND WHERE THE SERVICES THAT WE NEED TO BE CONSIDERING, WHERE OUR CONSTITUENTS ARE TRAVELING FROM TO RECEIVE THESE SERVICES.
NO, THE DATA WAS NOT BROKEN DOWN THAT DETAILED.
AND I DON'T SEE PRESCOTT ON HERE.
YEAH. I CAN ASK WHAT THE ACTUAL FORECAST WAS.
I BELIEVE THEY JUST TOOK A SNAPSHOT OF THE SIX HIGHEST GROWTH PROJECTIONS.
AND SO LOOKING AT THAT, IT DOES LOOK LIKE PRESCOTT IS PROBABLY IN THAT.
NOW THE COLOR LOOKS LIKE 10 TO 15%.
SO I'LL HAVE TO ASK THEM ABOUT WHAT THE GROWTH RATE WAS FOR PRESCOTT.
CONTINUING ON PAGE THREE, WE HAVE A PLAN OVERVIEW THAT WAS PRODUCED BY GENSLER.
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WE'VE HAD SOME CONTINUING CONVERSATIONS ABOUT HOW WE CAN BEST FULFILL THAT FOR THE LIBRARY, AND WE ARE WORKING WITH THE LIBRARY ON A POTENTIAL STUDY SPECIFICALLY FOR THEIR LIBRARIES.THERE ARE SEVERAL OTHER CATEGORIES IN HERE.
SOME OF THEM ARE MAINTAIN LIKE THE WHITESPAR BUILDING.
IT'S A GOOD SOLID BUILDING PUBLIC DEFENDER'S LOCATED IN.
SO WE'RE JUST GOING TO MAINTAIN THAT BUILDING AND KEEP THAT UP.
AND THAT WILL BE A GOOD, VIABLE BUILDING FOR US FOR QUITE SOME TIME.
SEVERAL OTHER BUILDINGS THAT FALL IN THAT COLUMN AS WELL.
IN THE NEXT GROUP WE HAVE THE RENOVATE.
SOME OF THESE HAVE BEEN TALKED ABOUT ALREADY, LIKE THE GURLEY STREET RENOVATION.
THAT WILL BE ONE OF THE FIRST PROJECTS THAT WE'RE SUGGESTING WE TACKLE.
WE'VE GOT ANOTHER SECTION OVER HERE FOR EXPAND.
AND THERE'S SEVERAL BUILDINGS LISTED IN THERE THAT WE'LL BE LOOKING TO EXPAND.
SOME ADDITIONAL BUILDINGS COULD BE BUILD OR BUY.
AND THIS IS A GOOD TALKING POINT RIGHT HERE.
IT DOES NOT NECESSARILY MEAN THAT IT HAS TO BE A NEW CONSTRUCTION.
IT'S LIKE BUYING ANOTHER CAR, A NEW CAR.
IT DOESN'T NECESSARILY MEAN IT'S NEW.
SO WE'LL KEEP OUR EYES OPEN AND LOOK FOR OPPORTUNITIES IN THAT SENSE.
AND IT'S TAKING ALL OF THAT INFORMATION.
AND I SAT WITH THE STEERING COMMITTEE AND WE ESTABLISHED OUR FIRST TAKE, OUR FIRST LOOK AT ADDRESSING THOSE PROJECTS THAT GENSLER HAD IDENTIFIED, AGAIN, THROUGH A VARIETY OF MEETINGS WITH DEPARTMENTS, YOU GUYS INCLUDED, AND ONGOING CONVERSATIONS THAT WE HAD.
THE STEERING COMMITTEE WE SELECTED THE FIRST GROUP.
BY NO MEANS HAVE WE LOOKED AT EVERY SINGLE POTENTIAL PROJECT AND NEED.
THESE JUST SEEM TO BE THE ONES THAT HAD THE BIGGEST NEEDS OR THE BIGGEST IMPACTS.
AND THEN TRIED TO STAGE THEM BASED UPON A GOOD ORDER OF PRECEDENCE.
SOME OF THESE, WE'LL JUST GO DOWN THE LIST ON A COUPLE OF THESE.
GURLEY STREET IS A BUILDING WE'VE ALREADY BEEN TALKING ABOUT.
WE'VE GOT PLANS PARTIALLY DONE.
THAT WOULD BRING THE ELECTIONS DEPARTMENT TOGETHER.
SO THIS WAS ONE OF THE FIRST NEW BUILDINGS THAT WE HAD PROPOSED TO BUILD.
WOULDN'T HAPPEN IMMEDIATELY, BUT THAT WOULD BE THE ESSENTIALLY THE FOURTH PROJECT.
WE WOULD DO THE BUILDING OUT THERE ON COMMERCE.
WE WOULD START ANOTHER NEW LOCATION OVER IN COTTONWOOD.
THERE'S BEEN A NEED FOR AN EXPANDED HEALTH SERVICES AND ALSO A DATA CENTER OVER THERE.
YOU KNOW, THIS IS AN INTERESTING ONE.
I ACTUALLY FOUND A BUILDING FOR SALE ABOUT A HALF A MILE FROM OUR SIXTH STREET LOCATION.
RIGHT HERE. I'M PROPOSING SOMETHING NEW, AS IF WE'RE TALKING ABOUT BUILDING SOMETHING NEW.
BUT THERE IS A GREAT OPPORTUNITY THERE.
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THINK ADDRESSES SUPERVISOR BROWN'S COMMENTS ABOUT SETTING A VERY SPECIFIC DIRECTION.COUNTY DIRECTION COULD CHANGE.
WE COULD CERTAINLY FIND BUILDINGS THAT COME UP FOR SALE THAT REALLY SUIT OUR NEED VERY WELL.
AND WE MAY NEED TO TAKE ACTION ON THEM WHILE THEY'RE AVAILABLE.
AND THAT COULD CERTAINLY CHANGE THE ORDER OF OUR BUILDINGS AND OUR PROJECT LIST IN HERE.
AND, BRANDON, CAN I INTERRUPT YOU FIRST? CERTAINLY. ALSO, I'M LOOKING AT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT NEW INFRASTRUCTURE.
YOU'RE BUILDING OUT IN ELECTIONS IT RECORDER AND DOING ALL THIS STUFF ON COMMERCE.
AND THAT'S WHERE IT'S ANTICIPATED IN THE NEXT 20 YEARS.
SO YOU TALK ABOUT IT BEING EXPENSIVE MOVING THOSE.
BUT IF WE'RE BUILDING NEW FACILITIES, WHY AREN'T WE GOING TOWARD THE AREAS WHERE OUR POPULATION GROWTH AND WHERE IT EXISTS NOW? AND ALSO FOR THE NEXT 20 YEARS, IT'S ANTICIPATED THAT THE 16% INCREASE IN POPULATION IN THOSE AREAS.
WHY ARE WE BUILDING AWAY FROM THOSE AREAS INSTEAD OF MOVING THAT INFRASTRUCTURE IN THAT AREA? HI, I HAVE A COMMENT IN REGARD TO THAT.
I UNDERSTAND WHERE JIM'S COMING FROM.
HOWEVER, ARE WE MEASURING THE POPULATION GROWTH WITHIN THE INCORPORATED AREAS? IS THAT WHERE WE'RE SEEING THE GROWTH? WELL, THEN IS THAT A COUNTY NEED NECESSARILY OR ARE WE STILL FOR THE UNINCORPORATED AREA? BUT MY QUESTION IS ELECTIONS FALL WITHIN THE MUNICIPALITIES OR REPRESENTING THOSE MUNICIPALITIES OR THEIR VOTERS? ELECTIONS COUNT FOR PRESCOTT VALLEY.
NO WE DON'T. SO, LET ME TAKE A SHOT AT ANSWERING A COUPLE OF THINGS BACK TO THE POPULATION PROJECTIONS MADE HERE BY GENSLER. WE DON'T HAVE AS BRANDON SAID, THOSE BROKEN DOWN BY CITY, BUT THEY DID LOOK AT THE COUNTY AS A WHOLE.
SO THAT DATA IS CONTAINED IN THAT, THE SECOND SLIDE.
AND THE CITY AND TOWNS WITH THEIR HAVE THAT POPULATION GROWTH OR EXPANSION OF THINGS.
DO WE NEED TO BE THERE TO COVER THEM AS WELL? WELL, I THINK THAT'S PART OF THE REASON OF THIS CONVERSATION TODAY TO KIND OF SORT THAT OUT.
WHAT IS THE BOARD'S INTENT, WHICH I THINK IS GETTING TO SUPERVISOR GREGORY'S QUESTION OF THE BOARD HAVE PREVIOUSLY BEEN AND I KNOW I THINK MAYBE HARRY PROBABLY AGREES WITH ME, IS THAT PLACES LIKE CONGRESS, ASH FORK AND IN YOUR DISTRICT UP THERE IN THAT AREA, UP THERE ALONG THE RIVER, I'VE FORGOTTEN RIMROCK, BEAVER CREEK, CORNVILLE ALL THOSE AREAS ARE UNINCORPORATED AREAS.
THE CITIES HAVE THE SAME SERVICES.
THEY HAVE LAW ENFORCEMENT AND EVERYTHING ELSE, BUT WE'RE TALKING ELECTIONS.
WHO HANDLES THOSE ELECTIONS FOR THE CITY? I THINK THE COUNTY DOES.
SO THEY'RE STILL PROVIDING ELECTIONS AND WE NEED TO GO WHERE OUR POPULATION.
SO, IT DIDN'T TAKE US LONG TO, IN MY OPINION, TO REALLY GET TO THE HEART OF THE MATTER.
AND IT IS REALLY A PHILOSOPHICAL DEBATE.
YOU'RE BOTH CORRECT THAT THOSE WHO LIVE OUTSIDE OF THE MUNICIPALITIES RELY MORE ON COUNTY SERVICES.
BUT TO YOUR POINT, ALL RESIDENTS OF THIS COUNTY ARE TAXED EQUALLY FOR COUNTY SERVICES.
BUT HAVING SAID THAT, WE NEED TO THINK THEN ABOUT WHAT ARE THE PRIORITIES? AND WHERE THEY SHOULD BE AND LOOK THROUGH THAT LENS.
YOU KNOW, THE VILLAGE OF OAK CREEK HAS ALMOST NO SERVICES.
AND I THINK THAT'S WHY I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT WHEN WE'RE LOOKING AT THE LIBRARY SUBSTATIONS, MAYBE WE COME UP WITH A MODEL THAT PROVIDES SERVICES IN OUR UNINCORPORATED AREAS AND PRIORITIZE THOSE BEFORE WE START GOING IN AND BUILDING OUT MULTI-MILLION DOLLAR FACILITIES IN PRESCOTT.
SO I THINK THAT OUR GOAL IS TO PROVIDE SERVICES FOR THE UNINCORPORATED AREAS, BUT ALSO WE PROVIDE SOME SERVICES LIKE ELECTIONS TO OUR MUNICIPALITIES.
SO WE DO HAVE TO BUILD OUT IN THOSE AREAS.
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BUT WHY ARE WE JUST DOING COTTONWOOD AND PRESCOTT WHEN WE KNOW THE POPULATION GROWTH IS IN OTHER AREAS? YEAH, I CONCUR WITH THAT.I THINK WE HAVE A DUTY IN OUR MISSION, AS A MATTER OF FACT, TO ADDRESS THOSE WHO HAVE THE LEAST SERVICES AVAILABLE TO THEM WHERE THEY LIVE, AND THAT IS IN THE UNINCORPORATED AREA.
SO, SUPERVISOR, TO YOUR QUESTION, IF WE'RE GOING TO BUILD A NEW BUILDING FOR ELECTIONS, RECORD ON IT, WHY WOULDN'T WE DO IT IN PRESCOTT VALLEY? THE SHOWS THE MOST POPULATION GROWTH.
NOT SAYING THAT'S THE RIGHT DIRECTION.
WELL, IF YOU IF YOU KNOW WHERE THE POPULATION IS GROWING, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT PLANNING GROWTH.
SO OUR CONSTITUENTS DON'T HAVE TO DRIVE 20 MILES TO GET THOSE SERVICES.
WE'RE GOING WHERE THE CENTER OF THE POPULATION IS RIGHT NOW.
THE LARGEST MUNICIPALITY IS PRESCOTT VALLEY.
SO MY CONCERN IS OVER THE NEXT 20 YEARS AND WITH THE INFORMATION YOU PROVIDED, ITS 16% GROWTH.
THAT'S THE LARGEST GROWTH AREA IN THE COUNTY.
SO MY CONCERN IS, YEAH, WE MIGHT HAVE PROPERTY THERE, BUT WHAT MAKES THE MOST SENSE FOR GOING OUT FOR THE NEXT 20 TO 25 YEARS? AND, AND MY I THINK MY PRIORITY WOULD BE IS FIRST, PRIORITIZE YOUR SUBSTATIONS, YOUR UNINCORPORATED AREAS AND REALLY INVEST IN THAT TO GET THOSE SERVICES OUT THERE.
AND THEN LOOK AT WHEN WE'RE GOING TO START BUILDING NEW FACILITIES MULTI-MILLION.
WE NEED TO CONCENTRATE ON WHERE THE GROWTH IS.
AND THAT'S WHY WE'RE HERE TODAY.
AND THAT'S WHY WE HIRED A CONSULTANT TO COME UP WITH THIS INFORMATION ABOUT THE GROWTH AREAS.
I AGREE WITH JIM IN REGARD TO THAT.
THAT SPECIFICALLY IS THAT I HAVE THE MOST REMOTE AREAS, PROBABLY IN THE COUNTY, AND SO DOES HARRY.
SUBSTATION. TYPE OF ARRANGEMENT IN CONGRESS.
I MEAN, UP THERE, COUNTY RESIDENTS, PROBABLY ABOUT 2000 PEOPLE, IS ALL NOT MUCH.
SO, AND THERE'S THAT MANY IN [INAUDIBLE].
SO JUST I BUT I DON'T WANT TO CENTRALIZE OUR EFFORTS IN THE CITIES AND TOWNS THAT DON'T REALLY NEED US THERE, OTHER THAN WHAT WE ARE ALREADY.
AND AS FAR AS ELECTION GOES, I HAVE A REAL PROBLEM WITH ELECTIONS BECAUSE WE JUST SPENT MORE THAN $200,000 ON REMODELING SOMETHING.
DID WE DO THIS JUST TO TAKE THE WIND OUT OF SOMEBODY'S SAILS LIKE THE REPUBLICAN PARTY? IS THAT WHY WE DID IT? AND THEN WHEN WE SPIN IT THE WRONG WAY AND SHAME ON US.
OKAY, SO WHAT I'D LIKE TO SAY IS GETTING OVER TO PRESCOTT VALLEY, WHERE JASPER'S IS.
LET'S TAKE THAT AS A POINT BEHIND JASPER'S.
IF YOU GO A LITTLE BIT FURTHER OUT, THERE ARE NEW HOMES BEING BUILT, BRAND NEW ONES.
THAT IS AN ADDRESS OF THE CITY OF PRESCOTT.
CORRECT. SO WHAT I WANT TO SAY THERE IS THAT PRESCOTT VALLEY IS THE BIGGEST GROWING AREA, BUT PRESCOTT IS STILL MOVING FORWARD OUT THERE IN A LOT OF THAT OPEN SPACE.
WHEN IT COMES TO ELECTIONS, MICHELLE AND LAUREN DO DRIVE ALL OVER THE AREAS, CHECKING ON ALL THESE DIFFERENT LOCATIONS THAT THEY'RE AT. JUST WANT TO PUT THAT OUT THERE WERE THERE IN PRESCOTT VALLEY, AND THEY'RE GOING BACK AND FORTH AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
THE REMODEL, THE REMODEL WAS REALLY FOR THE CITIZENS, NOT A REPUBLICAN PARTY, BUT A CITIZENS THAT WANTED TO BE ABLE TO GET UP TO THE FLOOR AND LOOK AND SEE WHAT WAS HAPPENING IN REGARDS TO THE ELECTION, MORE TRANSPARENCY AND BIGGER WINDOWS AND MORE AVAILABILITY. THAT'S WHO IT WAS FOR.
AND IT'S THEIR MONEY AND THEIR TAXES.
SO I HAVE NOT HEARD ONE COMPLAINT ABOUT SPENDING THE $200,000 OF THEIR TAXPAYER DOLLARS ON SOMETHING THAT THEY ACTUALLY WERE VERY INTERESTED IN SEEING, AND I'M NOT SAYING THAT TAKE THEM AWAY AS A PRIORITY.
THE PROBLEM IS, IS THEY'VE ALREADY GOTTEN A SHARE OF MONEY THAT NOBODY ELSE GOT, AND WE COULD HAVE USED THAT MONEY EASILY FOR SOME OF THE PLANS FOR YOU KNOW, OUT THERE AT COMMERCE INSTEAD.
SO DID WE JUMP SUPERVISOR BROWN?
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I'M JUST HERE TO SAY THAT THAT MONEY WASN'T GIVEN TO ELECTIONS.AND THEN ON TOP OF THAT, THEY WE STILL KNOW THAT THERE WAS ALWAYS A NEED.
SO, THIS IS WE KNOW THERE'S GOING TO BE A BUILDING WITH THIS, THIS THIS EVENT WE DID ON THE SECOND.
WELL, I AM AND A LOT OF CITIZENS ARE I DON'T KNOW ABOUT YOU, BUT I SUPPORT IT.
AND IT SHOWED THE CITIZENS THAT WE CARE AND WE LISTEN TO THEM.
WHY DO I NEED TO BUILD A BUILDING AT COMMERCE THEN FOR ELECTIONS? SO I DON'T KNOW IF YOU NEED TO BUILD A BUILDING.
I'M TALKING ABOUT WHAT WE DID FOR THE PEOPLE THAT WE SERVE WHO WERE ELECTED BY.
SO I'M NOT SAYING THAT I'M TALKING ABOUT COMMERCE.
MARTIN, DID YOU HAVE A COMMENT? YES, I DO. THANK YOU, VICE CHAIR.
I HAVE THE GOOD PLEASURE OF WORKING WITH THE ELECTIONS DIRECTOR.
THAT'S ONE OF THE DIRECTORS WHO REPORTS TO ME.
I GET TO WORK WITH HER ON A REGULAR BASIS.
I WENT THROUGH A TOUR OF THE SPACE THEY HAD.
THEY DESCRIBED WHAT THEY WERE REQUIRED TO DO, AND THEY SIMPLY DID NOT HAVE THE SPACE TO DO IT.
THE PROBLEM IS, AS A COUNTY, WE HAVE LIMITED SPACE AVAILABLE.
SO WHEN THEY CAME FORWARD WITH THIS NEED, WE WERE RESTRICTED.
IN TERMS OF WHAT SPACE DO WE HAVE THAT WE CAN ALLOCATE IN ORDER TO ALLOW THEM TO PERFORM THESE NECESSARY FUNCTIONS AND FIT THESE, THIS STAFF WITHIN THEIR DEPARTMENT. THEY PICKED UP BASICALLY A BREAK ROOM AND A LITTLE BIT OF ADDITIONAL SPACE.
THERE WAS A VERY CREATIVE RECONFIGURATION THAT WAS DONE.
THERE WAS ADDITIONAL WINDOWS AND VIEWING OPPORTUNITIES THAT WERE ADDED AS WELL.
BECAUSE WE WERE DOING A RECONFIGURATION OF THEIR SPACE, THEY DETERMINED THAT WOULD BE OF BENEFIT TO THE PUBLIC AND INCREASED TRANSPARENCY RELATED TO THE FUNCTIONS THAT THEY PERFORM WITHIN THAT DEPARTMENT, BUT IT WAS VERY MUCH NEEDED FOR THEM TO CONTINUE TO DO WHAT THEY'RE REQUIRED TO DO.
AT THE SAME TIME, THE AVAILABLE SPACE FOR THAT RENOVATION WAS VERY LIMITED.
AND SO YOU'RE RIGHT THAT THE PROJECT WAS COMPLETE AND THEY ARE ALREADY TIGHT FOR SPACE.
AND IF I COULD JUMP IN AT THIS POINT, I THINK THAT THE DISCUSSION AROUND ELECTIONS AND THESE DEPARTMENTS IN GENERAL, GENSLER LOOKED AT PROJECTED STAFF GROWTH AS WELL OVER THE NEXT 20 YEARS. SO WE'RE NOT JUST LOOKING AT THE NEXT 5 OR 10.
IT WOULD CONSOLIDATE THE LOCATION OF MANY COUNTY SERVICES, BUT THEN IT ALSO PLAYS INTO THE GROWTH NEEDS THAT THIS FACILITY WOULD SEE OVER THE NEXT 20 YEARS WITHOUT ELECTIONS.
I WANT TO BE CLEAR, STAFF COMING UP WITH THESE RECOMMENDATIONS DID A NUMBER OF THINGS.
WE LOOKED AT OUR EXISTING INVESTMENT WHERE BUILDINGS WERE.
WE LOOKED AT ADJACENT OPPORTUNITIES THAT TYLER JUST REFERRED TO COUPLED WITH GROWTH.
AND THAT'S WHY YOU'RE SEEING THESE PROJECTIONS.
IF THE BOARD'S DIRECTION IS NO, WE THINK GROWTH IS THE PRIMARY FACTOR THAT WE NEED TO CONSIDER.
WE'RE PERFECTLY COMFORTABLE WITH THAT.
AND WE WOULD REVISE THESE BASED ON THAT TO DATE.
AGAIN PART OF THE STRUGGLE IS HERE.
SO WE CAN GO THEN AND EXECUTE A PLAN AGAIN.
THAT'S WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO.
AT LEAST START THAT CONVERSATION TO GET US IN THAT DIRECTION TODAY.
THAT MAKES SENSE. ACTUALLY, THE AVAILABILITY OF FUNDS WAS ACTUALLY THE MOVING TYPE OF WHAT COULD WE AFFORD, YOU KNOW, WITHOUT GOING INTO THE PIGGY BANK.
SO NOW WE'RE MOVING FORWARD WITH WE HAVE ENOUGH FUNDS TO DO SOMETHING PLANNED.
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IS GOING TO COST US A LOT LESS THAN THE RENT WE WERE PAYING FOR THE SAME BUILDING.SO IN TIME, I THINK YOU ALREADY IT'S PAID OFF MORE THAN PAID FOR ITSELF.
SO THAT WAS THE IDEA EARLY ON TO FIND SOMETHING WE COULD AFFORD TO DO RIGHT NOW.
SO BUT IS THAT NOW WHAT DRIVES OUR DECISIONS? I MEAN, THAT TO ME IS REALLY WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO REACH FOR.
WE USED TO DO IT THAT WAY OF NECESSITY.
AND IS THAT THE BEST WAY TO MAKE A PLAN, OR IS IT AS THE SUPERVISOR GREGORY SUGGESTING LOOKING AT WHAT THE TRAJECTORY IS AND WHETHER IT'S IN POPULATION OR SERVICES THAT WE COULD EXPECT THAT WILL BE NEEDED.
THANK YOU. YEAH. AGAIN, THAT'S WHAT I'M SUGGESTING.
WHAT WE'VE HAD IS AN AD HOC APPROACH TO FACILITIES NEEDS.
WHEN NEEDS POPPED UP, WE DID WHATEVER WAS QUICKEST AND MOST COST EFFICIENT TO ADDRESS IT.
I'M SUGGESTING THAT'S NOT THE BEST WAY TO MOVE AN ORGANIZATION OF OUR SIZE.
AND FURTHER, I WOULD SAY THAT JUST BECAUSE PRESCOTT VALLEY IS GOING TO HAVE THE 60% DOESN'T MEAN THAT MCGUIRE VILLE OR BEAVER CREEK OR SURROUNDING.
WHAT IS THAT? HOW DOES THAT INFORM US IN TERMS OF WHAT KIND OF PRESENCE SHOULD WE HAVE IN THESE COMMUNITIES? AND IT SEEMS TO ME THAT THEY'RE ALL GROWING.
ALL OF THEM HAVE AT LEAST 8% PROJECTION OF GROWTH.
SO WE NEED TO PAY ATTENTION TO ALL OF THAT.
WELL, AND IN SOME CASES, WOULD WE NOT.
AND JIM AND I HAVE TALKED ABOUT THIS BEFORE, IS HAVING SOME KIND OF A MODEL THAT SAYS, OKAY, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A BUILDING AND IT'S GOING TO HAVE THE COURT, IT'S GOING TO HAVE MEDICAL, IT'S GOING TO HAVE COUNTY SERVICES, IT'S GOING TO HAVE THE SHERIFF ALL IN THE SAME SMALL BUILDING.
DO WE? IS THAT WHAT WE ARE LOOKING FOR, OR WE WANT A BIG BUILDING TO TAKE THE PLACE OF ALL? I DON'T KNOW, I'D BE OKAY WITH JUST REPURPOSING A BUILDING THAT'S OUT THERE THAT'S CONSISTENT WITH WHAT WE COULD PUT IN IT AND WHAT THE NEED IS.
WELL, AND I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT.
BUT I THINK IT WOULD BE A GOOD IDEA IF WE HAVE FUNDING AVAILABLE NOW IS TO INVEST THAT IN IT.
LOOKING AT SHERIFF'S SUBSTATION COMMUNITY SERVICES, COMMUNITY ROOM AND JUST HAVING A GENERAL PLAN, AND THEN WE START PUSHING THOSE INTO OUR UNINCORPORATED AREAS.
SO WE HAVE THOSE PRESENCE OUT THERE.
BECAUSE WE'VE NEVER MOVED FORWARD LIKE THAT.
AND I THINK WITH SOME OF THE ARPA FUNDING WE MIGHT HAVE AVAILABLE NOW, WE INVEST THAT IN PLANNING AND GETTING THOSE PROJECTS READY TO GO AND THEN IDENTIFY THE NEEDS WITHIN THOSE COMMUNITIES AND GETTING WITH COMMUNITY HEALTH AND FINDING OUT WHAT THEY'RE GETTING OUT OF VOC OR CORNVILLE AND THOSE DIFFERENT AREAS, AND START MAKING THAT A PRIORITY OF THE BOARD.
AND THEN WE GOT TO REMEMBER WE'RE RIGHT NOW WE HAVE RESTRICTIONS FOR THE EXPENDITURE LIMIT.
WE HAVE VERY LIMITED FUNDING MOVING FORWARD FROM HERE ON OUT.
WE HAVE A NEW BOARD THAT IS COMING IN IN THE NEXT FOUR MONTHS, TOO.
SO I THINK IT'S JUST IMPORTANT MAYBE FOR US, I'M THINKING TODAY IS TO IDENTIFY SOME OF THE THINGS WE THE IMMEDIATE NEEDS WE WANT TO GET ESTABLISHED. AND THAT I WOULD BE FOR LOOKING AT THE SUBSTATIONS AND THE LIBRARY AND THE COMMUNITY CLINICS AND UNINCORPORATED AREAS VERSUS THE LONG TERM, WHEN YOU HAVE DIFFERENT LEADERS COMING IN IN THE NEXT THREE MONTHS MIGHT TAKE US IN A DIFFERENT DIRECTION FOR THE LONG TERM, TEN AND 20 YEAR PROJECTS.
SO BUT I HOPE THEY WOULD CONCUR.
BUT I AGREE WITH ALMOST FORGIVE THE DEFINITION OF IT A KIOSK APPROACH DEPENDING ON THE SIZE AND CENSUS OF THE COMMUNITY.
WHAT SIZE WOULD THAT KIOSK BE THAT COULD OFFER THE CAFETERIA OF SERVICES THAT WE ARE ABLE TO OFFER? WE JUST DON'T PUT THEM TOGETHER OUT THERE.
AND I THINK THAT THEY WOULD BE UTILIZED THAT WAY.
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AND IT ALSO GIVES US AN OPPORTUNITY TO LOOK AT WHAT'S ALREADY THERE THAT WE COULD REPURPOSE IF WE NEEDED TO DO THAT.BUT I CERTAINLY LIKE THE IDEA OF LOOKING AT WHERE IN UNINCORPORATED AREAS THE NEED IS GREATEST AND HOW CAN WE CLUSTER OUR KIOSK IF YOU WILL DELIVER THE SERVICES IN A WAY THAT'S NOT ONLY ECONOMICAL, BUT PROVIDES A MULTITUDE OF SERVICES THAT ARE NOT NOW BEING OFFERED? I MEAN, FOR HEAVEN'S SAKES, IN IN COTTONWOOD, WE GET THE MAMMOGRAM OFFERING ONCE A YEAR, ONCE A YEAR FOR WOMEN.
AND SO WHAT DO WE DO ABOUT THAT? BUT CERTAINLY, THAT NEED IS A PRESSING NEED.
I WOULD SUGGEST, BASED ON DATA FOR BREAST CANCER ALONE, THEY'RE NOT GETTING THE SCREENING.
I MEAN, TO DEAL WITH IT WHILE THEY CAN SAVE LIVES.
SO DO THOSE. LAST THREE COMMENTS.
I BELIEVE WE'RE STILL TALKING ABOUT, AND I BELIEVE THAT THIS SET OF RECOMMENDATIONS FROM OUR CONSULTANT IS CONSISTENT WITH WHAT I CONTINUE TO CALL A HUB AND SPOKE MODEL THAT, IN ALL LIKELIHOOD, WHAT MAKES SENSE FOR US IS THAT THE MAIN POPULATION CENTERS CONTAIN THE BULK OF SERVICES.
BUT THEN WHEN YOU GET OUT INTO THE UNINCORPORATED AREAS, YOU START LOOKING AT THAT SPOKE MODEL, WHICH I AGREE, I THINK IT'S THOSE COMMUNITY FACILITIES THAT BACK TO SLIDE THREE IS WHAT WE'RE RECOMMENDING UNDER THE PLANNING PIECE TO DO A LITTLE MORE IN DEPTH STUDY OF WHAT DOES THAT LOOK LIKE IN TERMS OF INCLUDING LIBRARIES AND SHERIFF SUBSTATIONS.
WE'VE HAD SOME CONVERSATION WITH STAFF.
I BELIEVE THEY AGREE THAT THAT MODEL MAKES SENSE.
SO IF THAT'S THE DIRECTION THAT YOU THINK WE OUGHT TO PROCEED WITH FIRST, I THINK THAT MAKES SENSE.
SO ESSENTIALLY THERE'S SATELLITE OFFERINGS, CORRECT? WELL, IT'S KIND OF INTERESTING, YOU KNOW, SAYING THAT BECAUSE THEN YOU HAVE TO TAKE A LOOK AT THE COMMUNITIES.
AND I LOOK AT THAT AND SELIGMAN OKAY.
SELIGMAN HAS A COURT HAS A LIBRARY, HAS A SUBSTATION, SO TO SPEAK.
THEY DON'T HAVE ANY BATHROOMS, BUT THEY'VE GOT ALL THREE OF THOSE LOCATIONS PULLED DOWN PRETTY GOOD.
ONE IS A BUILDING THAT'S BEEN THERE FOR 80 YEARS, RIGHT? YOU KNOW, AND IT REALLY AND DO WE HAVE WE SHOULD HAVE A BUNKHOUSE, PROBABLY BECAUSE WE HAVE DEPUTIES THAT ARE OUT THERE THAT ARE ACTUALLY STAYING OVERNIGHT FOR SEVERAL DAYS IN A ROW, IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN.
RIGHT. YEAH. SO AND WE TALK ABOUT, WELL, THEN MAYBE WE NEED A SUBSTATION AT ASH FORK.
MORE PEOPLE CAN, YOU KNOW, WHERE THE COUNTY COMES TOGETHER WITH ANOTHER COUNTY? AND BUT AGAIN, THE POPULATION IS MOSTLY COCONINO COUNTY.
MOST PEOPLE THINK IT IS, BUT IT'S NOT.
WELL, A MILE NORTH OF THE FREEWAY.
AND WE GO INTO COCONINO COUNTY AND A COUNTY OF OUR SIZE.
DOES THAT MAKE SENSE TO HAVE TWO THAT CLOSELY TOGETHER? WELL, AND THAT'S WHAT I'M SUGGESTING, IS IF WE HAD ONE THAT COULD SERVE AS BOTH CORRECT, WE'D BE IN A MUCH BETTER POSITION.
WE CAN MOVE THE JUDGE IN HIS COURTROOM.
SO IT'S REALLY ABOUT CONSOLIDATION AND GROWING SATELLITES WHERE THEY ARE NEEDED BASED ON EITHER LACK OF THOSE SERVICES OR POPULATION GROWTH OR BOTH.
AND AGAIN, TO PROVIDE OTHER COUNTY SERVICES TO THOSE MORE REMOTE AREAS THAT WE'RE NOT PROVIDING NOW.
WELL, AND WE'RE SEEING ALSO THAT HEALTH IS CITED, THAT THEY'RE GOING TO COME OUT AND EXPAND THEIR OUTREACH INTO PLACES LIKE ASH FORK, WHERE IT WOULD BE CHEAPER TO RENT FROM THE OLD CLINIC AT 350 BUCKS A MONTH.
LAST TIME I WAS TALKING TO ONE OF THE HEALTH FOLKS, THEY WERE TALKING ABOUT DOING SOMETHING SIMILAR IN CHINO VALLEY, BECAUSE WE'VE RUN A REPORT A COUPLE OF TIMES ON ADDRESSES OF THE PEOPLE THAT COME TO THE PRESCOTT VALLEY CLINIC, AND THE VAST MAJORITY LIVE NORTH OF CHINO.
SO, YOU GOT TO TAKE THOSE THINGS INTO CONSIDERATION.
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DO WE WANT TO BRING THE FACILITY TO THEM OR THEM TO US, OR A COMBINATION THEREOF? SO THAT SMALL RURAL AREAS COULD HAVE A SATELLITE THAT BOTH THE MULTIPLE COMMUNITIES COULD GO TO AND IT WOULDN'T BE A HARDSHIP.AND THAT POSSIBLE MODEL WOULD ALSO BE THE THING THAT WOULD WORK FOR HARRY'S AREA IN CONGRESS AND OR IN BLACK CANYON CITY. YOU KNOW, IT MAKES A LOT MORE SENSE IF WE HAVE SOME KIND OF A MODEL OF WHAT WE'RE GOING TO PROVIDE AND MAKE THE FACILITY FIT THE MODEL? YES I AGREE.
AND I THINK YOU COULD TWEAK IT A LITTLE BIT FOR EACH JURISDICTION ON THE NEEDS.
RIGHT. BUT WE PRIORITIZE THAT.
AND THEN WHEN WE TALK ABOUT RENOVATION PROJECT EARLY, WE NEED TO PUT THAT ON OUR PRIORITY LIST.
NUMBER ONE, TO GET ACCOMPLISHED BECAUSE THAT'S GONE ON LONG ENOUGH.
AND THEN IF YOU LOOK AT YOUR PLAN, YOU'RE TALKING 26.
WE STILL HAVE TIME TO WORK ON OKAY, WHERE DO WE STRATEGICALLY WANT TO GO AS A BOARD TO PUT ADDITIONAL RESOURCES WITHIN THE COMMUNITY? AND I DON'T, IN MY OPINION, IS WE NEED TO GO WHERE THE POPULATION IS.
AND THAT JUST MAKES SENSE TO ME.
AND IT MIGHT NOT BE THE GENERAL POPULATION OF NOT JUST THE MUNICIPALITIES, BUT THE AREA WHERE THE GROWTH IS HAPPENING SO AND HOW OUR SERVICES ARE BEING PROVIDED. THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT RUNS IT BY ZIP CODES, AND THEY CAN IDENTIFY WHERE OUR NEEDS ARE IN THOSE AREAS.
AND I KNOW THIS CONSULTANT TOOK A LOT OF INFORMATION FROM A LOT OF STUFF INTERNALLY.
I DIDN'T SEE THAT IN THERE, BUT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THAT BECAUSE I THINK IT MIGHT HAVE STEERED IT A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENTLY THAN JUST, HEY, WE GOT THIS AREA AVAILABLE TO BUILD OUT. SO THAT'S MY THOUGHTS.
WELL, I WOULD CONCUR ACTUALLY.
AND I KNOW I'M A LAME DUCK AND I SHOULD SIT HERE AND BE QUIET, BUT I DON'T QUACK.
SO I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO PHASE THIS TO BE MEASURED.
AND THIS THIS MODEL THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT RIGHT NOW DOES THAT.
IT MEETS THE MOST IMMEDIATE NEEDS THAT ALLOWS US TO GO AHEAD AND REHAB FACILITIES THAT HAVE BEEN LONG OVERDUE, AS WELL AS LOOK AT WHAT IS THE MODEL FOR THOSE AREAS WHERE WE SEE THE GROWTH RATE IS GOING TO GO TO, OR WHERE THE NEED FOR SERVICES IS THE GREATEST? IT'S A GAME PLAN.
AND THE OTHER PART IS, IS THAT ON THE NORTH SIDE OF 89A, THAT'S SUPERVISOR BROWN OUT THERE, THAT WHOLE AREA OF PAQUITO VALLEY, ALL OF THAT AREA, IT'S NOT SOME OF IT MIGHT BE IN PRESCOTT VALLEY, BUT IT'S HIS DISTRICT.
AND THAT PLACE IS EXPLODING WITH HOUSES.
SO AGAIN, EVEN THOUGH IT DOESN'T SHOW THAT ON HERE, THAT AREA JUST NORTH OF 89 A IS UNBELIEVABLE.
GO OUT THERE AT NIGHT, YOU WILL SEE NOTHING BUT HOUSE LIGHTS.
BUT IT'S GOING TO BE ALL SOLAR FIELDS.
THAT DOESN'T MATTER, RIGHT? I'M ADVOCATING THE THOUGHT, AND I THINK WE NEED TO, WE REALLY NEED TO BASE OUR DECISIONS OFF WHERE THE GROWTH IS GOING TO BE AT WITH THE POPULATION GROWTH IN THOSE AREAS.
MAYBE THAT'S WHERE WE NEED TO PUT SOMETHING ELSE.
SO ISN'T THERE A PAT OUT THERE ALREADY? ALREADY READY TO GO.
NOT A PAD. THERE IS A FLAT AREA.
I THINK THERE'S A COUPLE OF STUBS.
AND THEN WE ALSO HAVE THAT AREA AT CIVIC AND OR SCOOT DRIVE AND.
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WE DO HAVE FOUR ACRES OUT THERE, TOO.FOUR ACRES OF VACANT LAND THERE.
YEAH. YES. AND THAT'S PRIME RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE OF THE MUNICIPALITY.
BUT MAYBE WE DO LOOK AT OTHER LOCATIONS.
THEY ARE ANNEXED, BUT THE ONE TO THE SOUTH THAT WE'RE WEST OF THEM, I GUESS THAT IS IT'S NOT RIGHT.
SO YOU GOT A LITTLE PATCH OF DIFFERENT THINGS HERE GOING ON.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE CITY IS PLANNING ON DOING, BUT RIGHT ACROSS THE, THE 89 A THAT'S WHERE YOU GUYS VOTED PUT IN THE SOLAR FIELD WITH FEIN.
MR. CHAIRMAN WOULD YOU LIKE TO 1212 NOW, WOULD YOU LIKE TO BREAK FOR LUNCH AND COME BACK AND WE'LL CONTINUE THIS CONVERSATION? GOOD CONVERSATION.
WE'RE CALLING BACK OUR MEETING TO ORDER.
AND WE'VE GOT A COUPLE PEOPLE THAT ARE COMING TO THEIR SEATS.
IT'S 1250 AND IT IS OCTOBER 2ND.
I, OF COURSE, WAS MAKING SOME NOTES DURING OUR EARLIER CONVERSATION.
AND LET ME DO MY BEST TO REITERATE WHAT I BELIEVE I HEARD THIS MORNING.
AND MAYBE START BY AS I WALK THROUGH THIS, GET SOME INDICATION WHETHER I'VE CAPTURED THIS CORRECTLY.
SECOND, I'VE HEARD INTEREST IN WHAT I'VE REFERRED TO AS THE SMOKE MODEL OR THOSE COMMUNITY CENTERS, WHATEVER WE WANT TO CALL THEM THROUGHOUT THE MORE UNINCORPORATED AREAS OF THE COUNTY, WHICH IS ALSO CONSISTENT WITH ONE OF THE WITH ONE OF THE PRIORITIES THAT STAFF HAS SUGGESTED.
WE PROBABLY NEED A LITTLE ADDITIONAL STUDY IF WE'RE GOING TO INCLUDE OUR LIBRARY DISTRICT AND THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE AND THEN OTHER ANCILLARY COUNTY SERVICES INTO WHAT THAT NEEDS TO LOOK LIKE.
I THINK THAT WOULD BE A GOOD DIRECTION.
AND THEN THAT WAY I MEAN, HARRY'S GOT HIS PROJECT, BUT I THINK HAVING A MODEL FOR EACH DIFFERENT COMMUNITY THAT WE CAN GO OFF AND THEN OF COURSE WE'LL NEED TO TWEAK IT, BUT JUST HAVE A GENERAL FOOTPRINT OF WHAT WE WANT TO DO IN OUR UNINCORPORATED AREAS.
SO YOU NEED TO MAKE SOME MINOR, HOPEFULLY, ADJUSTMENTS.
BUT YOU ALREADY KNOW WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE.
SO YOU TAKE THAT SPACE AND IT BECOMES SOMETHING ELSE, LIKE A CLINIC OR A COURTROOM, JUST, YOU KNOW, OFF TOP OF YOUR HEAD. YEAH. AND THANK YOU FOR THAT, CHAIRMAN.
WE KEEP OUR I KEEP REFERRING TO ANYWAY AS LIBRARIES AND SHERIFF'S SUBSTATIONS.
BUT I THINK OUR JUSTICE COURTS ALSO NEED TO BE CONSIDERED AS PART OF THAT.
THOSE SERVICES THAT WE LOOK AT IN THAT MODEL AS WELL.
ABSOLUTELY. MAKE A NOTE OF THAT.
SO TO BE CLEAR, I'M SENSING SOME DIRECTION AND HEADING THAT WAY.
BUT THAT WILL REQUIRE A LITTLE MORE STUDY CONSULTANT, I.E.
SO I'M SEEING SOME NODS, SO WE'LL WORK ON THAT DIRECTION.
AND OF COURSE, THAT WOULD COME BACK TO THE BODY FOR APPROVAL BEFORE PROCEEDING.
YOU KNOW, I THINK, THOUGH, BEFORE WE GO OUT TO ANY KIND OF A CONTRACT FOR SOMEBODY, AN ARCHITECT OR WHATEVER WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, MAYBE WE NEED TO SIT DOWN AND GET A LIST OF ALL THE THINGS THAT WE THINK WE MIGHT NEED.
AGREE, YOU KNOW, AND MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE ROOM FOR EXPANSION IF NECESSARY.
THANK YOU. PARKING LOT ACCESS FOR ADA.
THINGS LIKE THOSE ARE GOING TO BE VERY IMPORTANT.
I AGREE. REMEMBER IF YOU HAVE A SECOND FLOOR YOU JUST ADDED A BIG PROBLEM.
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SO AND YOU KNOW THAT'S A GOOD POINT.GREG. AND I THINK THAT IF WE'RE LOOKING AT HEALTH CLINIC, YOU'RE LOOKING AT CSL SUBSTATION, LIBRARY AND A COMMUNITY ROOM, I THINK THAT'S THE BASIC THINGS WE NEED TO GET WITHIN THE COMMUNITY.
I THINK THAT PRETTY MUCH COVERS IT.
LET ME GO AHEAD AND ADD ONE THING ABOUT THIS.
SO WE'VE BUILT THIS THING WITH 6000FT².
WE'VE ALREADY TALKED TO THE COMMUNITY.
SO WHAT WE COULD DO TALKING TO WICKENBURG, HE SAYS, IF YOU HAVE JUST A LITTLE PRIMARY CARE AREA THAT REQUIRES TWO TREATMENT ROOMS, A WAITING ROOM AND AN ADA BATHROOM, SO IT'S ONLY A VERY SMALL AMOUNT OF SPACE HERE, AND THEN COUNTY OR COMMUNITY HEALTH COULD BE GOING UP TO ONCE A WEEK AND SETTING UP CLINICS AND HAVE THE SPACE NEEDED TO OPERATE OUT OF.
WHICH IS ONE REASON WHY I'M NOT SURE WE NEED THE VEHICLES, BUT, YOU KNOW, IT COULD BE PLACES THAT YOU WOULD GO WITH THE VEHICLES WHERE YOU WOULDN'T HAVE THIS KIND OF CAPABILITY. SO, YOU KNOW, WE LOOK AT THIS, DON'T LOOK AT THE 6000FT² OVER HERE FOR, FOR EVERYBODY BECAUSE YOU'RE NOT GOING TO HAVE A CLINIC. NOW, I WILL TELL YOU THAT HONOR HEALTH IS VERY MUCH INTERESTED IN COMING UP HERE AND GETTING INVOLVED IN, IN THIS AREA, YOU KNOW, AND THEY'RE LOOKING AT TRYING TO OPERATE MORE IN THE RURAL AREAS.
BUT RIGHT NOW, IF YOU HAVE JUST THIS MINIMAL PRIMARY CARE AREA UP IN PEOPLE'S VALLEY, WE'RE LOOKING AT DOING A SMALL BUILDING THERE. AND WICKENBURG SAID, IF YOU HAVE THIS WHEEL, COME ON UP AND DO CLINICS IN PEEPLES VALLEY AND TAKE A DOCTOR AND A NURSE AND GO ON UP THERE AND, AND I DON'T KNOW WHETHER IT BE EVERY DAY OR MAYBE EVERY OTHER DAY OR TWICE A WEEK OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT AND PROVIDE A PROVIDE CLINIC.
SO I WOULD JUST LIKE TO OFFER THIS AS A, AS A THOUGHT.
AND THAT'S THE REASON WHY I DECIDED TO HAVE IT BROUGHT OUT HERE.
YEAH. WELL, IN THIS KIND OF A DESIGN, EVEN THOUGH IT'S PROBABLY ROUGH, YOU KNOW, WHAT WE WOULD DO IS, IS WE SAY, OKAY, WE DON'T NEED A CLINIC OR, YOU KNOW, AND ALL OF A SUDDEN THAT BECOMES A COURTROOM AND BATHROOMS AND WORKS WITH, YOU KNOW, THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT'S ALREADY THERE.
OR MAYBE WE DON'T NEED THE SHERIFF THERE.
MAYBE HE DOESN'T REALLY NEED TO BE THERE BECAUSE IN ASH FORK, THEY DON'T USE THAT OFFICE AT ALL.
I MEAN, IT'S THERE, BUT IT'S FALLING APART.
IS ARE THERE OPPORTUNITIES FOR COMMUNITY PARTNERSHIPS THERE WHICH MAY SUGGEST YOU'VE GOT A LITTLE DIFFERENT CONSTRUCTION IN THAT PARTICULAR AREA, BUT, YOU KNOW, TALKING WITH WHOEVER WE WORK WITH TO COME UP WITH THIS MODEL, MAYBE WE'RE REALLY BEGINNING TO LOOK AT SOMETHING THAT'S ALMOST A MODULAR CONCEPT, THAT EACH OF THOSE COMPONENTS HAVE THEIR SQUARE FOOTAGE, AND THEN YOU BUILD THE PARTICULAR BUILDING BASED ON WHICH EACH OF THOSE COMPONENTS.
YEAH. YOU'RE PUTTING IN THE LOCATION AND BUILDING MORE LINEAR IN THAT SENSE.
YEAH. YEAH. AND WE'RE TALKING AND I KNOW LIKE CURTIS JUNCTION, WE HAVE PROPERTY THERE.
THE FIRE DEPARTMENTS ASKED, HEY, WHAT ABOUT CONSOLIDATING RESOURCES WITH THE NEW FIRE BUILDING AND A SUBSTATION? BUT OF COURSE, WE NEED TO GET WITH YCSO AND FIND OUT.
THEY HAVE TRAILERS THERE IN THE SCHOOLHOUSES.
I MEAN, THERE'S THEY'RE SPREAD ALL OVER THE PLACE.
SO, I THINK IT'S IT'LL TAKE EVERY STAKEHOLDER IS GOING TO BE INVOLVED WITH COREY, WITH THE LIBRARY THE SHERIFF, WITH THE CSO, AND THEN OF COURSE, LESLIE WITH THE HEALTH CLINIC.
BUT I THINK THERE'S GOOD OPPORTUNITIES HERE.
OKAY. AND SO THEN NEXT, EXCUSE ME.
WE'VE GOT SOME IMMEDIATE NEEDS THAT WE NEED TO FIGURE OUT HOW WE'RE GOING TO ADDRESS.
ONE OF THOSE IS THIS BUILDING.
AND ONE OF THOSE PRINCIPALLY IS THE THIRD FLOOR WHERE WE ARE ALL LOCATED.
SO, YOU KNOW, WE ARE OUT OF SPACE AND WE'VE STARTED TAKING OVER CONFERENCE ROOMS. WE'VE GOT ONE CONFERENCE ROOM, AND I'VE GOT THREE STAFF SHARING ONE ROOM BECAUSE WE ARE LITERALLY OUT OF SPACE.
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SO I THINK WE'VE GOT SOME OF THESE AREAS WITHIN THE COUNTY.WHICH LEADS ME TO MY FINAL POINT BACK TO THIS CONVERSATION ABOUT WHAT'S THE RIGHT MODEL TO BUILD, WHERE ALL THE PEOPLE ARE CONGREGATED, OR DO YOU GO TO THE UNINCORPORATED AND AGAIN, TRYING TO FIND THE BALANCE? SO LET'S TALK ABOUT PRESCOTT VALLEY.
THERE WAS REFERENCED EARLIER TO THE PROPERTY WE ALREADY OWN.
WE'RE ALREADY IN THE MIDDLE OF THEIR CIVIC CAMPUS THERE.
I DON'T THINK IT'S ANY SURPRISE TO ANYONE THAT THE TOWN HAS SOME INTEREST IN THAT PIECE OF GROUND.
THEY ALSO OWN ANOTHER PROPERTY IN PRESCOTT VALLEY.
DEVELOPED PIECE WITH A LARGE OFFICE COMPLEX ON IT.
NOW THAT THEY HAVE CONTROL OVER HAS SOME LONG TERM LEASES THAT THEY'VE GOT SOME INTEREST IN IN GETTING OUT FROM UNDER THAT PIECE OF PROPERTY.
SO I WOULD LIKE YOU ALL TO CONSIDER GIVING, IF THAT'S SOMETHING YOU'D LIKE TO TALK ABOUT, GIVING STAFF SOME DIRECTION TO BEGIN PRELIMINARY CONVERSATIONS WITH THE TOWN ABOUT THE POTENTIAL OF LOOKING THAT, YES, PERHAPS SOME SORT OF EXCHANGE.
MY THOUGHT IS WE WOULD ASSUME THOSE LEASES.
SO IT ALMOST BUYS US FUTURE GROWTH SPACE.
SO, I'M REFERRED TO AS DEWEY DOWN THERE, THE OLD STORAGE LOCATION THAT WE NEED TO GET OUT, THEY WOULD LIKE TO BE FURTHER INTO THEIR POPULATION CENTER, WHICH IS PRESCOTT VALLEY. SO MY THOUGHT IS COULD THAT SOLVE THAT ISSUE FOR US AS WELL? BUT AGAIN, WE NEED TO DO SOME DUE DILIGENCE AND CONVERSATION WITH THE TOWN TO BEGIN TO SEE WHETHER THAT MAKES SENSE.
BEFORE WE'D HAVE SOMETHING TO BRING BACK TO YOU.
AND I THINK AND I'VE BEEN OVER THERE.
YEAH. AND I'VE BEEN OVER THERE AND IT'S VERY, IT'S A, THERE'S THE STATES IN THERE RIGHT NOW WITH [INAUDIBLE] AND US VETS ARE THERE.
YEAH. THAT'S ANOTHER REASON I LIKE IT.
ALL OF THOSE LONG. ALL THE LONG.
YEAH. ALL OF THE LONG TERM TENANTS IN THERE ARE RELATED GOVERNMENTAL FUNCTIONS.
THAT FACILITY DOWN THERE IS I MEAN, WE'VE BEEN TRYING TO GET RID OF IT FOR A LONG TIME.
AND THERE'S BEEN SOME NO JACK SMITH YEAH.
HOW MUCH SPACE ARE WE TALKING ABOUT IN THIS OTHER FACILITY? I DON'T REMEMBER THE TOTAL SQUARE FOOTAGE.
AND WE ALREADY HAVE 2 OR 3 LONG TERM TENANTS IN IT, SO IT'S A MONEYMAKER.
SO I'M TALKING ABOUT AS FAR AS DOLLARS, I DON'T KNOW.
WE'VE NOT, STAFF'S NOT GOT THAT FAR IN CONVERSATIONS.
I MEAN WE WANT DIRECTION FROM YOU ALL BEFORE WE ENTERED INTO ANY SUBSTANTIVE CONVERSATION.
THEN EVENTUALLY, ANYWAY, IF WE LOOK AT IT AND SEE, IT MIGHT WORK.
YEAH, I THINK IT'S WORTH VENTURING AND LOOKING INTO IT.
I THINK GIVING DIRECTION TO DO THAT.
IT'S A PERFECT EXAMPLE. I'LL HAVE TO GO LOOK AT WHAT WE SHOULD BE DOING.
YES, WE WOULD SELL OFF THAT LITTLE.
THAT'D BE MY THOUGHT ON DOING IT.
THEY'RE VERY INTERESTED IN THAT.
FOUR AND A HALF ACRES ACROSS FROM THE LIBRARY, BECAUSE IT'S IN THEIR CIVIC CENTER RIGHT NOW.
WHERE? THE POLICE STATION, LIBRARY AND ALSO YOUR TOWN CENTER.
THAT'S JUST PERFECT. SO, THEY'RE EAGER TO GET THAT.
SO AND IT'S A VERY PRIME PIECE OF PROPERTY.
SO, THERE'LL PROBABLY BE A LOT OF ROOM FOR NEGOTIATIONS THERE.
SO, THANK GOODNESS WE HAD THE HISTORIAN HERE TO TELL US.
I THINK WE NEED TO TAKE A LOOK AT THE EXPANSION OF OUR WORKFORCE.
AND TALKING TO A NUMBER OF THE DIRECTORS, THEY'RE INDICATING IN THIS NEXT BUDGET YEAR, THEY SEE PROBABLY COMING IN WITH SOME ADDITIONAL REQUESTS FOR NEW HIRES. SO WE'RE STARTING TO GROW, AND THAT'S PROBABLY DUE TO POPULATION AND EVERYTHING ELSE.
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AND SO I THINK, YOU KNOW, DOING THAT, BUILDING OUT THEIR COMMERCE MAKES SENSE.MAYBE THAT WOULD EVEN GET US OUT OF TRIPLE C, YOU KNOW? SO I GUESS TO BE CLEAR WHAT I'M SUGGESTING, IF I HEARD SOME RESISTANCE TO THE IDEA OF BUILDING OUT ON COMMERCE THE LOCATION, THE PROPERTY IN PRESCOTT VALLEY COULD BE AN ALTERNATIVE TO THAT BUILDING.
WELL, DO YOU REALLY WANT TO MOVE? WHAT? YOU WERE PLANNING ON PUTTING IN THE BUILDING IN COMMERCE? DO YOU WANT TO TAKE IT THAT FAR AWAY FROM OR DO YOU WANT TO? ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT MOVING TO ADMINISTRATION ALSO.
WELL, THE IDEA, AS YOU KNOW, WITH COMMERCE WAS TO MOVE THE RECORDER ELECTIONS AND IT OUT THERE.
THAT'S ALMOST LIKE A TECHNICAL CENTER THERE THEN.
AND ADMINISTRATION OFFICES ARE ENTIRELY DIFFERENT.
SO I AGREE. SO I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT FOR US TO LOOK AT IT.
IF WE'RE LOOKING AT 20 TO 25 YEARS OUT WITH THE OFFICE SPACE AVAILABLE.
THERE IS OPPORTUNITY TO LOOK TO SEE HOW THEY CAN MAKE THAT WORK.
AND I THINK IT'S WORTH LOOKING INTO VERSUS BUILDING A WHOLE NEW FACILITY IF WE DON'T HAVE TO.
YEAH. IF WE COULD REPURPOSE OR MAKE AN EXCHANGE LIKE THAT, THAT'S JUST SO EFFICIENT.
OKAY, LET ME WALK THROUGH THIS ONE MORE TIME.
AND STAFF, PLEASE JUMP IN HERE AND ADD TO IT.
OR PICK UP WHAT I'M MISSING OR OTHER THINGS YOU'D LIKE TO.
DISCUSS, BUT ONE. WE WILL REFOCUS OUR EFFORTS ON THE GURLEY STREET BUILDING.
TWO WE WILL BEGIN CONVERSATIONS ABOUT ENGAGING SOMEONE TO DO AN ADDITIONAL STUDY ON OUR PLAN FOR LIBRARIES, SHERIFF'S SUBSTATION, JUSTICE COURTS, OTHER COUNTY SERVICES, WHAT THAT MODEL SHOULD LOOK LIKE, INCLUDING WHERE THOSE MAKE SENSE TO BE PLACED STRATEGICALLY, HOW MANY ALL OF THOSE DISCUSSIONS.
AND THEN STAFF WILL BEGIN PRELIMINARY CONVERSATIONS WITH THE TOWN OF PRESCOTT VALLEY ABOUT PROPERTY THAT WE MAY HAVE AN INTEREST IN TALKING ABOUT SOME VERSION OF AN EXCHANGE. AND THEN FINALLY, AFTER WE DO THAT, THAT WILL PROBABLY LEAD US INTO A FOLLOW UP CONVERSATION WITH THE BOARD ABOUT DOES THAT THEN MAKE SENSE? OR DO WE LOOK AT THE NEW BUILDING ON COMMERCE ONCE WE HAVE MORE INFORMATION TO MAKE THAT DECISION? AND EITHER ONE OF THOSE THEN GIVES US THE BREATHING ROOM TO ADDRESS OUR IMMEDIATE SPACE NEEDS.
YES. ANYTHING ELSE? OKAY. WE'RE DONE. SUPERVISOR MALLORY SAYS WE'RE DONE.
UNLESS THERE'S MORE DISCUSSION.
WELL, YOU KNOW, THAT BRINGS UP A QUESTION.
YOU KNOW, ALL THE SHERIFF'S VEHICLES ARE OUT THERE AT COMMERCE NOW.
AND THE OTHER COMMERCE CIRCLE.
SO. SHERIFF'S HEADQUARTERS WHERE IT'S AT.
IT'S GOT TO BE CENTRALLY LOCATED WHERE IT'S AT.
SO IF ONE OF THESE SCENARIOS HAPPENS, YOU GET ELECTIONS MOVED.
SO, YOU'VE GOT A LITTLE MORE BREATHING ROOM OVER COMMERCE CIRCLE.
RIGHT. ONE OF THE THINGS WE HAD CONSIDERED AT COMMERCE CENTER CIRCLE WAS THAT IF WE COULD FIND A NEW HOME FOR PANT, AND WE COULD MOVE ELECTIONS OUT. THAT WOULD GIVE US PLENTY OF SPACE FOR SIMPLE TO EXPAND.
SIMPLE HAS BEEN LOOKING FOR SOME ADDITIONAL SPACE.
AS YOU KNOW, THEY'VE ACTUALLY RENTED SPACE IN OTHER LOCATIONS, SO THEY'VE GOT THEIR STAFF SCATTERED OUT A LITTLE BIT BECAUSE OF LACK OF SPACE FOR A TRANSIT HUB THAT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH ADMINISTRATION.
AND THEN ALSO LIBRARY. LIBRARY.
LIBRARY HAS BEEN ASKING FOR ADDITIONAL SPACE AS WELL.
IT WOULD ALLOW US TO RETAIN THAT BUILDING, WHICH LIBRARIES ACTUALLY HAPPY WITH THAT LOCATION.
SO THE PRESCOTT VALLEY CONVERSATION IS REALLY BETWEEN THAT BUILDING THAT THEY WOULD HAVE, ALONG WITH OUR FOUR AND A HALF ACRES OUT THERE. RIGHT.
CORRECT. THAT, TO ME, SEEMS LIKE THAT'S KIND OF A WASH IN THAT IT'S LIKE THIS GOES WITH THAT.
I MEAN, IF IT WORKS, IF IT WORKS OUT, I MEAN, I'M JUST KIND OF PUTTING THAT OUT.
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I'LL JUST SAY HERE PUBLICLY, I THINK OURS IS WORTH A WHOLE LOT MORE.I AGREE. WELL, YOU ARE THE SELLER, SO I GET IT.
SO ANYWAY, WITH THAT BEING SAID, WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT COMMERCE, THAT'S BEEN PART OF A PLAN.
THE PRESCOTT VALLEY AND THE FOUR AND A HALF ACRES IS SOMETHING.
IF YOU GET THE GOOD PRICE FOR YOUR PROPERTY, SIR WOULD MOVE COULD MOVE RATHER QUICKLY.
IT'S KIND OF LIKE THE SITUATION ON REMODELING WITH THE ELECTIONS.
IT WAS JUST BASICALLY THE BAND-AID UNTIL WE BASICALLY GET THROUGH ALL THESE OTHER ISSUES.
SO I'M NOT SAYING COMMERCE IS TOTALLY OUT OF THE PICTURE, I MEAN.
I DON'T SEE IT OUT OF THE PICTURE.
I STILL SEE IT IN THE PICTURE.
I JUST SEE THESE AS TWO SEPARATE THINGS WHERE WE'RE GOT THIS AREA THAT'S TOTALLY GROWING RAPIDLY, AND PART OF IT IS PRESCOTT, AND PART OF IT IS DISTRICT FOUR.
SO YOU'RE STILL SERVICING A LARGE AMOUNT OF THE COUNTY'S, YOU KNOW, AND I DON'T KNOW, BUT I DON'T KNOW IF RIGHT BEHIND JASPER'S IF THAT'S YOU OR IF THAT'S HARRY IN THOSE THAT NEW DEVELOPMENT ON THE PRESCOTT ADDRESS.
BUT, YOU KNOW, I BELIEVE IT'S ACTUALLY HARRY.
OKAY, WELL, THEN YOU GOT DISTRICT ONE.
POSITIVE. YOU HAVE TO GO UP AND ASK ELECTIONS.
THE DELLS. I THOUGHT MAYBE IT WAS YOURS.
THE DELL'S MINE, THE DELL'S MINE.
AND THIS ADDRESS IN PRESCOTT IS MINE.
EVEN THOUGH IT HAS A PRESCOTT ADDRESS, IT'S STILL THE CITY OF PRESCOTT.
YEAH. YOU KNOW, THAT WHOLE LITTLE ZIGS AND ZAGS RIGHT ALONG 89.
SO WHAT I'M TRYING TO SAY IS, IS THAT COMMERCE, I BELIEVE, IS STILL VERY MUCH IN THE VISION.
AND I BELIEVE THIS CONVERSATION WITH PRESCOTT VALLEY, ALONG WITH OUR FOUR AND A HALF ACRES AND THIS REALLY NICE GOVERNMENT BUILDING, WHICH IS REALLY, REALLY NICE.
PLUS, IT HAS SOME INCOME TO IT, I GUESS HOW WE DO THAT, I SEE IT ALL COMING TOGETHER EVENTUALLY.
THIS IS A VISION FOR THE FUTURE.
SO I WOULDN'T SAY WE GOT TO PICK AND CHOOSE BETWEEN ONE OR THE OTHER.
CORRECT. THIS IS MORE OF A NOT A LONG TERM GOAL, BUT AN INTERMITTENT, SHALL WE SAY, TYPE GOAL.
AND THAT'S MAINLY GURLEY STREET.
CORRECT. YOU KNOW WE HAVE BEEN DRAGGING OUR FEET ON THIS NOW FOR HOW LONG.
AS LONG AS YOU'VE BEEN IN OFFICE.
AND CHAIRMAN I WOULD JUST SAY I DON'T SEE IT AS A SHORT TERM.
I SEE IT AS THE BEGINNING OF THE LONG TERM PLAN.
I THOUGHT THE BEGINNING WAS ABOUT FIVE YEARS AGO, BUT OKAY, WE'LL MEASURE FROM THERE.
AND I DON'T KNOW. GURLEY STILL SHOWING IT'S A PRESCOTT JAIL.
YEAH. AND ONE OF OUR BOARD MEETINGS.
EXCUSE ME. CRIMINAL ADMINISTRATION CENTER.
YEAH, AND I'M WATCHING DENNIS SHAKING HIS HEAD.
NO, WE'VE BEEN READY FOR YEARS, SIR.
THAT'S REALLY WHAT I WAS ABOUT TO SAY, IS WE HAVE A COMPLETE PLAN, AND IT JUST GOT PUT ON HOLD.
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I SEE MANAGER THOMPSON NODDING HIS HEAD OVER THERE, AND YOU CHARACTERIZED THAT WELL.AND WE HAVE MONEY SET ASIDE FOR THAT RENOVATION, RIGHT? WE HAVE SOME MONEY SET ASIDE, BUT AS WE ALL KNOW, THAT MONEY WAS SET ASIDE HOW MANY YEARS AGO NOW? AND WE KNOW WHAT'S HAPPENED TO COST.
NO, NO, IT'S UNFORTUNATELY IT'S NOT ENOUGH.
WE AT LEAST HAD A GOOD COST ASSESSMENT DONE FOR THE REMODEL.
IT'S HELPED ME RECENTER THE OVERALL COST THAT WE'RE EXPECTING FOR THAT BUILDING.
BUT AS TIME GOES ON, THOSE COSTS CONTINUE TO CLIMB.
YEAH. SO HOW SOON CAN WE GET STARTED ON THAT EARLY STREET? WE CAN START THE PROCESS TODAY.
YEAH. YEAH, THAT WAS MY QUESTION.
WHY DON'T WE GET MOVING ON THIS? YEAH. I MEAN, I'M HEARING DIRECTION HERE.
SO, STAFF WILL FOLLOW UP ON THAT.
ANYTHING ELSE? CHAIRMAN. MEMBERS OF THE BOARD? NO. WELL, I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR THIS CONVERSATION.
AND MAYBE IT FELT A LITTLE BIT MESSY HERE AT TIMES, BUT I THINK WE JUST TO GO OVER IT.
CORRECT. TWO WE'RE GOING TO GO OUT AND VISIT THIS NEW SITE OUT IN PRESCOTT VALLEY.
AND THEN ALSO THEY WOULD PROBABLY GO BY AND LOOK AT WHERE THE OTHER FOUR AND A HALF ACRES IS, AND THEN MAKE A TOUR OVER TO COMMERCE STREET AND MAKE LOOK AT THAT AREA AGAIN.
THAT'S A GREAT IDEA. AND ENGAGE IN CONVERSATION AND MOVE THAT FORWARD.
I AGREE. NO, I THINK THAT'S A GREAT IDEA.
RIGHT. WELL, YOU GET A VAN AND DO THAT LITTLE FIELD TRIP.
MAYBE WE CAN MAKE IT AFTER THE NEXT BOARD MEETING.
THAT WAY WE'RE ALL HERE TOGETHER ANYWAY.
YEAH, THAT WOULD BE A COTTONWOOD MEETING, BUT THAT COULD BE THE NEXT PRESCOTT MEETING.
WHETHER OR NOT IT'S THIS BUILDING DESIGN HERE OR SOMETHING ELSE, I THINK WE NEED TO MOVE ALONG.
YOU KNOW, YOU'VE GOT LETTERS IN FRONT OF YOU FROM SPECTRUM AND WICKENBURG HEALTH.
SO I THINK THAT WOULD BE ONE THING I THINK WE CAN START WORKING ON.
I THINK WE DO HAVE SOME ARPA FUNDS THAT COULD PROBABLY START TO DESIGN ON THAT AND BE A SPRINGBOARD ON LOOKING AT HOW MUCH THAT WAS GOING TO COST, AND THEN BE ABLE TO SCALE THAT FOR ANY OTHER LOCATION THAT IT MIGHT BE CONSIDERED FOR, FOR THAT MODEL.
AND I DON'T KNOW ABOUT THE ARPA FUND PART OF IT, BECAUSE WE ONLY HAVE UNTIL THE END OF DECEMBER TO SPEND THAT MONEY, RIGHT? WHY NOT JUST DO IT ALL AT ONCE? DEDICATED. DEDICATED.
YEAH. WHY NOT JUST LOOK AT ALL THE FACILITIES AT ONCE? SINCE WE'RE LOOKING AT THAT, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT DOING A DIAGRAM.
INSTEAD OF JUST GETTING STARTED ON ONE.
WHY DON'T WE DO THAT? GET A CENTERPIECE OF WHAT WE WANT TO LOOK AT WHAT IT LOOK LIKE.
AND THEN ONCE WE GET INTO THAT, THEN IF YOU WANT TO DO YOUR PROJECT, YOU JUST ADD WHAT'S GOOD FOR THAT YOU HAVE IT'S GOING TO LOOK A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENTLY IN YOUR COMMUNITY THAN IT WOULD BE IN THE REST OF THEM.
BUT I THINK HAVING ONE CORE CONCEPT AND THEN LOOKING AT EACH COMMUNITY INSTEAD OF JUMP STARTED OVER HERE, RIGHT? WHY DON'T WE JUST START ON ONE CONCEPT AND THEN LOOK AT WHAT, RIGHT, APPLY IT TO EACH OF THEM.
AND THEN WHEN YOU WANT TO ADD TO YOURS, WE CAN ADD TO YOURS.
BUT THERE'S NO SENSE OF GETTING ONE STARTED HERE WHEN I WANT TO SEE.
SO THAT WAS WHAT I WAS HEARING.
BUT WHAT I REFERRED TO IS THE ADDITIONAL STUDY TO COME UP WITH WHAT THAT NEEDS TO LOOK LIKE.
AND I KNOW SUPERVISOR OBERG, YOU WOULD LIKE TO MOVE SOONER RATHER THAN LATER.
I PERSONALLY AM NOT SURE THAT WE CAN'T DO BOTH AT THE AT THE SAME TIME.
AS WE START THAT WORK, LET THEM KNOW WE'VE GOT THIS PRESSING NEED IN THIS AREA.
HERE'S WHAT WE'RE SEEING AND TRY TO SHAPE THAT AS QUICKLY AS WE CAN.
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BUT AGAIN, CONSISTENT WITH THE LARGER MODEL THAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT.WE SHOULD BE TAKING ADVANTAGE OF THAT BEFORE THEY CHANGE THEIR MIND.
THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE ANYTHING CLOSE TO THAT IN A WAY OF A HEALTH CLINIC.
BUT WHY NOT ADD THAT IN WITH THE CONSULTANT WHEN YOU WERE BRINGING IN THE CONSULTANT TO LOOK AT WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE FOR EACH OF THESE COMMUNITIES, AND JUST ADD THAT INTO THE PART OF THE LOOKING INTO IT SAYING, HEY, WE DO HAVE TENANTS READY TO GO RIGHT NOW, 3 OR 4 DIFFERENT MODELS, RIGHT? IT'S GOING TO BE 6000 SQUARE X NUMBER OF SQUARE FEET 12.
FOR THE 6000FT, WE MIGHT ONLY NEED 1000FT FOR OUR HEALTH CLINICS, FOR JUST HAVING A VIEWING ROOM.
AND WELL, AS WE CAN KIND OF TAKE A PAIR OF SCISSORS AND TAKE THIS MAP AND SEW IT UP.
SO THIS IS THE ONE I NEED FOR OVER HERE FOR A LIBRARY.
YOU KNOW, IT'S KIND OF LIKE A LEGO.
YEAH. LIKE LEGOS, BUT WE DON'T NEED THIS OVER HERE.
SO WE TAKE THAT LEGO OUT AND WE ONLY PUT IN THAT PORTION, RIGHT? BUT I'M SAYING TO GET STARTED, LET'S GET JUST THE BASIC CONCEPT DOWN.
MAYBE THERE'S DIFFERENT NEEDS IN COURT AND VOC.
AND THEN IF WE HAVE TO TWEAK IT, WE CAN TWEAK IT LATER ON.
BUT IT'S A GOOD START TO GET THINGS GOING FROM THAT.
YES. AND WE HAVE ARPA FUNDING.
AND THE OTHER THING IS THAT THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT HAS THE FACILITY OVER THERE IN PRESCOTT VALLEY, BUT WE'RE NOT HAVING TO PAY FOR THAT RIGHT NOW, RIGHT. ARE WE AT A POINT WHERE IT'S ALMOST THE CHEAP RENT? RIGHT. YEAH. AND HOW LONG IS THAT GOOD? WE HAVE, I BELIEVE, ANOTHER 20 YEARS.
OKAY. SO, YOU SEE, I REALIZE IT DOESN'T REALLY WORK.
BUT WITH NOT HAVING TO PAY ANYTHING ON THAT GIVES US THE OPPORTUNITY TO DO ALL OF THIS.
YOU KNOW, I DO THINK WHEN IT COMES TO THE RURAL STUDIES, I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT FOR US TO ENGAGE ALL THE DIFFERENT COMMUNITIES AND LOOK AT THE INDIVIDUAL STAKEHOLDERS, WHETHER IT BE THE SHERIFF, THE LIBRARY.
AND I THINK WHEN WE ENGAGE THEM TALKING ABOUT THE STUDIES, WE CAN GET THEM TO BRING FORTH SOME CONCEPTUAL BLOCKING DIAGRAMS FOR THE DIFFERENT MODELS THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT AND HELPING US WORK THROUGH A DESIGN THAT IS FLEXIBLE FOR OUR DIFFERENT COMMUNITIES.
I THINK WE HAVE A DEFINED SET OF USERS DOWN THERE.
I THINK WE'VE ENGAGED THOSE PEOPLE ALREADY.
I WOULDN'T THINK IT TO BE A WASTE OF TIME OR RESOURCES IF WE WANTED TO PURSUE A PARALLEL PATH AND THEN USE THAT CONCEPT, THAT MODEL OF THAT BUILDING AS THE BASIS FOR EVERYTHING ELSE MOVING FORWARD. SO DEPENDING UPON TIMING, IF WE WANT TO WAIT AND DO ALL OF THAT, IT'LL JUST BE A LITTLE BIT OF TIME BEFORE WE CAN GET TO CONGRESS.
CONGRESS WOULD BE, I'M ASSUMING, THE FIRST ONE DONE.
AFTER THAT STUDY IS DONE, IT WOULD JUST BE TIME.
I DON'T SEE IT AS BEING AN ISSUE TO FOLLOW A PARALLEL PATH.
IN THAT SENSE. CAN YOU GET US SOMETHING TO VOTE ON BY THE NEXT MEETING? AS FAR AS SHIFT [INAUDIBLE] STUDY, OR DO WE NEED TO DO ANY FURTHER PRESENTATION NOW? AGAIN, GURLEY STREET IS OUR FIRST PRIORITY.
THAT'S GOING TO TAKE A LITTLE TIME TO REASSESS, GET COST, FIGURE OUT EXACTLY WHERE WE ARE, AND THEN WE'RE GOING TO NEED TO HAVE A CONVERSATION AS A BODY ABOUT HOW TO FINANCE A PLAN.
BUT WE NEED TO KNOW WHAT THAT PLAN IS BEFORE WE CAN GET TO THAT STEP.
SO, AND THAT'S TRUE BECAUSE OF OUR EXPENDITURE LIMIT THAT CREATES AN ISSUE.
BUT WE CAN GET STARTED BY HERE AND HOPEFULLY YOU'RE CORRECT.
BUT WE CAN GET STARTED ON A NUMBER OF THESE THINGS SIMULTANEOUSLY.
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VALLEY IN CONVERSATIONS ABOUT PROPERTIES OUT THERE.THOSE CAN ALL THREE START AT THE SAME TIME.
AND IN THE MEANTIME, GET US OUT TO THESE LOCATIONS.
ABSOLUTELY. MAKE SURE AGAIN, I LIKE THAT IDEA.
AND WHAT PART ARE YOU THINKING OF WHERE PROBATION WOULD MOVE AWAY? LET'S JUST SAY WHAT AREA? I GO FOR PROBATION AND MOVE AWAY TO ANOTHER LOCATION.
WHAT TIME ARE SO AGAIN, THAT WOULD DEPEND ON CONVERSATIONS WITH PV.
AND IF THERE IS AN EXCHANGE WE COULD WORK OUT.
SO, IF LET'S JUST IF THAT WENT THROUGH THEN THERE'S A POSSIBILITY TO RELOCATE.
YES. NOT MOVE IT AWAY COMPLETELY BUT RELOCATE IT UP IN THERE, WHICH MEANS GETTING AN IDEA OF THE VALUE OF THAT PROPERTY DOWN THERE IS ALSO MONEY IN OUR COFFERS.
CORRECT. MOVING FORWARD, WHETHER IT'S FOR HARRY OR HOW WE LOOK AT THAT.
IS IT FOR SALE NOW? NO, NO, NO.
SO IT'S NOT LISTED OR ANYTHING OKAY.
NO, THEY'RE JUST VERY EAGER TO GET THAT.
AND THAT PIECE OF PROPERTY YOU'RE REFERRING TO IS WORTH A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT I KNOW.
SO ARE WE JUST SAYING THAT PUBLICLY TO YOU.
ARE YOU GOING TO GET A? YEAH, WE WOULD. YEAH.
ULTIMATELY, WE'D HAVE TO HAVE APPRAISALS, I BELIEVE.
IS THERE ARPA FUNDS THAT WE'RE LOOKING TO TRYING TO GET OBLIGATED BY THE END OF THE YEAR? I BELIEVE THERE WILL BE.
YOU DON'T IT DOESN'T COUNT AGAINST YOUR EXPANSION.
IS THAT CORRECT? THAT'S CORRECT.
WELL, I THINK OKAY, HERE WE GO.
THERE WAS SOME DISCUSSION OF THIS CONGRESS BUILDING SPECIFICALLY AND THE DESIGN OF THIS BUILDING.
AND I TALKED TO OUR CONSULTANT, ERNST AND YOUNG, ABOUT THAT, AND THEY FELT THAT THE DESIGN OF THE CLINICAL PORTION OF THAT BUILDING WOULD POTENTIALLY QUALIFY FOR ARPA FUNDING.
IF WE'RE TALKING ABOUT SIMPLY DEVELOPING SOME SORT OF MODULAR CONCEPT, MULTIFUNCTION GOVERNMENT BUILDING, THAT THAT PROBABLY IS NOT GOING TO QUALIFY.
SO THERE WOULD NEED TO BE ANOTHER FUNDING SOURCE.
SO PERHAPS THE CONGRESS MODEL IS A LITTLE DIFFERENT THAN.
SO, DO WE HAVE THE FUNDING TO DO A CONSULTANT NOW FOR THE OFFSITE FACILITY? WE'LL TAKE A LOOK AT THAT. AND AGAIN, WE'D HAVE TO GO OUT RFP PROCESS FOR THAT.
SO FIGURE OUT WHAT THOSE COSTS ARE GOING TO BE.
FOR WHAT? FOR THE ADDITIONAL STUDY.
FOR WHAT? THAT FOR WHAT? AGAIN, FOR THE ADDITIONAL STUDY TO DETERMINE, YOU KNOW, WHAT DOES THE MODEL LOOK LIKE? WHERE SHOULD THEY BE FOR THE LIBRARIES? OKAY. BUT WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT BECAUSE WE NEED TO TURN AROUND AND LOOK, GET A REAPPRAISAL QUICKLY ON WHAT IT'S GOING TO TAKE TO FIX GURLEY.
YES, YES BECAUSE THAT'S JOB ONE.
I CAN HELP YOU WITH THAT. SEE IF WE CAN MOVE THEM AT ALL.
BUT BASED ON MAURY'S COMMENTS, THEN IT SOUNDS LIKE THE RPA COULD BE USED FOR THE CONGRESS BUILDING, FOR THE DESIGN, FOR THE MEDICAL PORTION OR THE CLINIC PORTION.
AND I THINK, DON'T WE HAVE A CONTRACT RIGHT NOW THAT'S WORKING ON THE PHARMACY OUT AT COUNTY HEALTH? YES. YES, WE CURRENTLY HAVE THEM.
THE ARCHITECT WHO'S WORKING ON THE PHARMACY DESIGN WAS ACTUALLY DONE THROUGH A OPEN SOLICITATION.
AND THAT'S BEING FUNDED UNDER A HRSA FEDERAL GRANT.
I DON'T KNOW THAT WE COULD EXTEND THAT CONTRACT.
I DON'T KNOW IF THAT WOULD CONFORM WITH ARPA.
NO. IF WE WERE TO DO A PARALLEL PATH ON THIS, I THINK WE COULD COVER POSSIBLY SOME OF IT SPECIFICALLY TO THE CLINIC, BUT TO THE POINT THAT MAURY WAS MAKING, IF WE WERE TALKING ABOUT THE OVERALL CONCEPT, THEN NO, WE COULDN'T USE ANY OF THE ARPA FUNDING ON THAT UNLESS WE SPECIFICALLY KNOW IT'S CLINIC.
BUT LESLIE, I THINK YOU MENTIONED AT SOME POINT HERE A FEW MONTHS AGO THAT SHE DOESN'T THINK SHE NEEDS THE SPACE NOW BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, THEY BASICALLY CHANGED THEIR OPERATION.
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NO SHE STILL BELIEVES SHE NEEDS MORE SPACE.SHE IS FINDING SOME EFFICIENCIES THERE.
BUT WE ARE ACTUALLY RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE OF A PROCESS.
NEXT MONDAY, I AM SITTING DOWN TO LOOK AT SOME TECHNICAL PROPOSALS FOR USING HER $2.5 MILLION THAT WAS ALLOCATED FOR ARPA FUNDING FOR RENOVATIONS AND EXPANSIONS OF HER BUILDING.
SO WE HAVE AN ACTIVE PROJECT THAT WE'RE PURSUING ON THAT ONE.
WELL, YOU HAVE THE POWER TO MAKE THAT DECISION.
YEAH. SO ANYWAY, MAYBE THAT CONTRACT IS WORKING ON THE PHARMACY RIGHT NOW.
AND I'M GOING TO LOOK TO MARTY ON THIS ONE.
IT'S ABOUT HALF THE BUILDINGS THAT COULD PAY FOR ABOUT HALF.
AND THEN WE'LL HAVE TO AUGMENT THE OTHER HALF OF IT.
AND I DON'T BELIEVE I CAN JUST SELECT A PROFESSIONAL.
ANYTHING ELSE? YOU READY? YEAH.
I JUST SAY ONCE AGAIN, THANK YOU FOR THIS CONVERSATION.
IT WAS VERY HELPFUL, VERY CONSTRUCTIVE.
AND I THINK GIVES STAFF THE DIRECTION WE NEED.
THANK YOU FOR THE WORK AND THE DILIGENCE.
APPRECIATE IT. THANK YOU EVERYONE.
AND WE'RE GOING TO ADJOURN FROM THIS PARTICULAR STUDY SESSION.
YOU GOOD? YEAH.
* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.