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AM I CORRECT?

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OKAY. I'M GOING TO CALL THIS SPECIAL MEETING TO ORDER.

IT'S WEDNESDAY, OCTOBER 2ND, TEN BEYOND 10:30 A.M., OBVIOUSLY, SO WE CAN HEAR THIS MATTER.

IT'S 1126.

ALL ITEMS ARE POTENTIAL ACTION ITEMS AS NORMAL.

PURSUANT. BOARD OF SUPERVISORS, VOTE TO GO INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION.

CITIZENS ARE ENCOURAGED TO WATCH THE MEETING VIRTUALLY.

WRITTEN COMMENTS OR CURRENT AGENDA ITEMS WILL BE RECEIVED BY THE CLERK OF THE BOARD'S OFFICE AND CLERK OF THE BOARD.

DOT WEB@YAVAPAI.GOV 24 HOURS PRIOR TO THE BOARD MEETING.

OKAY. WE ARE CALLED TO ORDER AND NEED A ROLL CALL.

THANK YOU.

AND OKAY, WE'RE MOVING INTO THE STUDY SESSION.

[1. Facilities - Study session to review and discuss the project priorities presented in the final report of the Space Planning Study. Facilities Director Brandon Shoults and County Manager Maury Thompson will discuss the recommendations made by the Space Planning Steering Committee. (All Districts)]

SO WITH THAT I'M GOING TO GO AHEAD AND GIVE IT TO OUR FACILITIES DIRECTOR.

SINCE THIS IS FACILITIES MATTER.

GO AHEAD. MR. CHAIRMAN, IF I COULD I BELIEVE THE ASSISTANT COUNTY MANAGER IS GOING TO MAKE SOME INTRODUCTORY COMMENTS.

I DON'T HAVE HIM ON MY AGENDA.

YOU DON'T? NO, I DON'T.

I DON'T SEE HIS NAME ANYWHERE.

IT JUST SAYS MAURY THOMPSON AND BRANDON SCHULTZ.

CAN YOU TELL? THERE WE GO.

I'LL DELEGATE THAT.

THEN DELEGATE TO THE ASSISTANT COUNTY MANAGER.

YOU'RE RIGHT. TYLER. I WILL TAKE IT.

I WAS PREPARED FOR THAT, SO THAT'S OKAY.

GOOD MORNING. CHAIR.

VICE CHAIR. MEMBERS OF THE BOARD AGAIN.

TYLER GOODMAN, ASSISTANT COUNTY MANAGER.

HAPPY TO KICK THIS OFF.

JUST TO GIVE A LITTLE BACKGROUND ON THIS TOPIC.

AS YOU'LL REMEMBER, THE BOARD DISCUSSED THIS FAIRLY BRIEFLY AT A PREVIOUS STUDY SESSION, I BELIEVE, IN AUGUST.

WE'RE BACK WITH THAT INFORMATION.

BUT WHAT WE'VE DONE IS CONDENSE IT AND IT'S IN FRONT OF YOU, AND WE'RE WORKING ON GETTING IT UP ON THE SCREEN AS WE SPEAK.

AND IT REALLY FOCUSES ON PROJECT PRIORITIES AND RECOMMENDATIONS.

AND FOR THOSE IN THE PUBLIC LISTENING, WATCHING FROM HOME.

THIS FACILITIES MASTER PLAN IS REALLY THE FIRST OF ITS KIND FOR THE COUNTY.

AND IT'S TRULY A STRATEGIC AND COMPREHENSIVE APPROACH TO LOOK AT COUNTY SERVICES, COUNTY LEVEL OF SERVICES AND TYPES OF SERVICES THAT THE BOARD WISHES TO SEE OVER THE NEXT 20 YEARS.

SO THIS IS A CHANCE TO LOOK AT THAT IN DETAIL.

AND OUR GOAL AS STAFF FOR THIS STUDY SESSION IS TO RECEIVE YOUR GUIDANCE AND DIRECTION ON WHAT SPECIFIC PRIORITIES YOU HAVE FOR FACILITIES. YOU'LL SEE, AS WE GET INTO THE PRESENTATION THAT WE'VE COME DOWN TO A RECOMMENDED LIST, BUT WE'D REALLY LIKE YOUR GUIDANCE AND INPUT ON THAT SO THAT WE CAN MOVE FORWARD WITH BUDGETING AND PLANNING AND COMING FORWARD AT A FUTURE DATE WITH A LOT MORE INFORMATION TO SHARE WITH YOU.

SO WITH THAT, I'LL HAPPILY PASS IT OVER TO BRANDON SCHULTZ, OUR FACILITIES DIRECTOR, TO ASK YOU A QUESTION SINCE YOU STARTED THIS OUT.

IS THIS GOING TO BE WITH RECOMMENDATIONS, OR IS THIS GOING TO BE JUST A DOCUMENT WHERE WE MAKE DECISIONS? WELL, WHAT WE HAVE BEFORE YOU, IT COULD BE BOTH, BUT LIKELY WHAT WE HAVE BEFORE YOU IS THE PROJECT PRIORITIZATION THAT HAS BEEN RECOMMENDED BY THE STEERING COMMITTEE. AND THERE'S A TIMELINE ASSOCIATED WITH THAT, WHICH OF COURSE IS LIKELY GOING TO BE FLUID AS THINGS COME AND GO.

IS THAT HOW OLD IS THAT? THAT THAT'S VERY RECENT FROM THE FROM THE RECOMMENDING COMMITTEE IN THE LAST I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY MONTHS.

YEAH. LAST COUPLE OF MONTHS, WHEN WE DID THE FULL STUDY SESSION IN COTTONWOOD, WE TOUCHED ON IT BUT DIDN'T GO INTO DETAIL.

WE HAD IT THEN. YEAH, WELL, AND THAT'S THE POINT.

HOW OLD IS THE INFORMATION FROM THE CONTRACTOR? OH, AND I'LL LET BRANDON ADDRESS THAT.

BUT FAIRLY RECENTLY WE RECEIVED THE FINAL REPORT.

YES, CHAIRMAN.

MEMBERS OF THE BOARD. NO, NO.

FINAL REPORT WAS, I BELIEVE, DELIVERED IN AUGUST WHEN WE HAD OUR FIRST INITIAL MEETING.

WE ACTUALLY HAD GENSLER IN THE COTTONWOOD BOARD OFFICE OVER THERE, THE BOARDROOM.

AND THAT WAS THE INITIAL PRESENTATION, THE CULMINATION OF THE REPORT.

AND THIS IS JUST A CONTINUATION OF THAT DISCUSSION.

WHEN DID WE ORIGINALLY ASK FOR THIS REPORT? IT'S BEEN ABOUT 14 MONTHS, I BELIEVE, FROM THE INITIATION OF THE DIRECTION.

SO THIS IS 14 MONTHS OLD, AT LEAST.

NO, SIR. 14 MONTHS AGO, I GOT DIRECTION FROM THE BOARD TO PURSUE THE REPORT.

WE THEN WENT OUT THROUGH AN RFP PROCESS, WHICH TAKES TIME TO SELECT A VENDOR.

AFTER WE HAD THE VENDOR, WE NEGOTIATED A CONTRACT.

THEN WE PROCEEDED FOR ABOUT TEN MONTHS TO DATA COLLECT, WHICH IS ACTUALLY THE FIRST PAGE OF THE ATTACHMENT OF THE MASTER PLAN THAT WE HAVE DONE.

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SO THE FIRST SHEET IN YOUR GUYS' PACKET, AND AS SOON AS WE CAN GET IT UP HERE REALLY SHOWS THE BREADTH AND THE SCOPE OF THE WORK THAT WAS DONE.

OKAY. LET'S JUMP OVER ALL THAT.

GET BACK TO WHAT WE'RE INTENDED TO DO HERE.

THIS IS ACTUALLY PART OF MY PRESENTATION.

SO IT'S A GREAT QUESTION THAT YOU HAD.

THAT SEEMS LIKE WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT IT FOR TEN YEARS, AND SOME DAYS, LONGER DOG YEARS.

YEAH. RIGHT. YES.

THANK YOU. QUICK INTRODUCTION.

I'M BRANDON SCHULTZ, I'M DIRECTOR OF FACILITIES DEPARTMENT.

AND TO CONTINUE ON RESPONDING TO YOUR QUESTION YEAH.

THE FIRST PAGE OF YOUR GUYS' ATTACHMENT, REALLY, AGAIN, IS TAKEN FROM THE ORIGINAL REPORT.

AND IT WAS REALLY JUST AN OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO REHASH WHAT WAS DONE, WHAT DATA WAS COLLECTED OVER THAT TIME.

WE WANTED TO LIST THAT WE HAVE LOOKED AT 70 LOCATIONS.

GENSLER LOOKED AT 70 DIFFERENT BUILDINGS THAT THE COUNTY OWNS AND OR LEASES INCLUDING SOME OF THE LIBRARY BUILDINGS.

THE SUBSTATIONS TOUCHED EVERYTHING THAT WE HAD OCCUPIED.

WE ALSO WORKED WITH ALL OF OUR DIFFERENT DEPARTMENTS.

ON THE FAR RIGHT HAND SIDE OF THAT FIRST PAGE, THERE'S A WHOLE LIST OF THE DEPARTMENTS THAT WE WORKED WITH.

WE ENGAGED ALL OF OUR INTERNAL DEPARTMENTS, AND WE EVEN ENGAGED SOME EXTERNAL DEPARTMENTS ON SOME CONVERSATIONS WITH SOME CENTRAL YAVAPAI METROPOLITAN PLANNING ORGANIZATION AS WELL AS THE LIBRARY DISTRICTS AND EDUCATION SERVICES.

SO THE WORK WAS EXTENSIVE.

WE TALKED TO EVERYBODY.

WE WENT TO ALL THE BUILDINGS, WE LOOKED AT A LOT OF STUFF.

AND SO WE JUST WANTED TO JUST KIND OF REMIND YOU GUYS OF THE SCOPE AND EVERYTHING THAT WAS GONE THROUGH TO DETERMINE WHAT THE NEEDS WERE OF THE COUNTY.

ALL RIGHT. I SEE THE PRESENTATION COMING UP LIVE THERE.

SO THAT'S THAT FIRST SHEET THERE THAT WE WERE JUST TALKING ABOUT.

ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WAS NOTED WHEN GENSLER WAS DOING THE ASSESSMENT, AND SPECIFICALLY OUR FACILITY CONDITION ASSESSMENT, WAS THAT ALL OF OUR BUILDINGS ARE IN GOOD SHAPE.

YOU KNOW, THAT'S BEEN A REOCCURRING THEME.

WE'VE HEARD SOME FROM SOME OF OUR OTHER VENDORS.

WE MAY HAVE SOME OLDER BUILDINGS.

THEY MAY BE UNDERSIZED, BUT GENERALLY THEY ARE IN GOOD SHAPE.

THEY'RE WELL TAKEN CARE OF.

AND THAT'S KUDOS TO BOTH MY STAFF, THE ENTIRE FACILITIES DEPARTMENT AND YOU GUYS AS BOARD MEMBERS.

IT SHOWS A COMMITMENT TO THE BUILDINGS, TO THE EMPLOYEES AND TO THE COMMUNITIES THAT WE'RE GOING TO CARE FOR THEIR INVESTMENTS PROPERLY.

THE SECOND PAGE IN OUR ATTACHMENT SHOWS THE FORECASTED POPULATION GROWTH OVER THE NEXT 20 YEARS.

THANK YOU. AS WE CAN SEE, MOST OF OUR ENTIRE COUNTY IS GOING TO SEE GROWTH.

AND WE'RE GOING TO SEE CONTINUED GROWTH HEAVILY IN THE PRESCOTT VALLEY AREA.

IT SEEMS TO BE WHERE A LOT OF THE GROWTH IS EXPECTED.

I DON'T KNOW THAT THAT NECESSARILY MEANS WE HAVE TO MOVE ANY OF OUR SERVICES, BECAUSE THAT BECOMES A COSTLY ADVENTURE IF WE WANT TO MOVE TO POPULATION CENTERS.

BUT IT'S GOOD FOR US TO UNDERSTAND HOW OUR POPULATION IS GROWING AND WHERE OUR CONSTITUENTS ARE GOING TO BE AT, AND WHERE THE SERVICES THAT WE NEED TO BE CONSIDERING, WHERE OUR CONSTITUENTS ARE TRAVELING FROM TO RECEIVE THESE SERVICES.

THE NEXT SHEET. YES, SIR.

IF WE LOOK AT THE POPULATION BREAKDOWN ON HOW MANY PEOPLE ARE WITHIN THE CITIES AND TOWNS AND THEN THOSE THAT ARE WITHIN THE ACTUAL UNINCORPORATED AREA.

NO, THE DATA WAS NOT BROKEN DOWN THAT DETAILED.

AND QUICK QUESTION. YOU SAID PRESCOTT AND PRESCOTT VALLEY, BUT I SEE ON YOUR PAGE TWO IT SAYS PRESCOTT VALLEY AT 16% GROWTH.

AND I DON'T SEE PRESCOTT ON HERE.

YEAH. I CAN ASK WHAT THE ACTUAL FORECAST WAS.

I BELIEVE THEY JUST TOOK A SNAPSHOT OF THE SIX HIGHEST GROWTH PROJECTIONS.

AND SO LOOKING AT THAT, IT DOES LOOK LIKE PRESCOTT IS PROBABLY IN THAT.

NOW THE COLOR LOOKS LIKE 10 TO 15%.

SO I'LL HAVE TO ASK THEM ABOUT WHAT THE GROWTH RATE WAS FOR PRESCOTT.

GOOD COMMENT. THANK YOU.

SUPERVISOR GREGORY.

CONTINUING ON PAGE THREE, WE HAVE A PLAN OVERVIEW THAT WAS PRODUCED BY GENSLER.

AND THIS WAS A SUMMARY, AGAIN BASED UPON ALL THE CONVERSATIONS WITH THE DIFFERENT DEPARTMENTS AND REVIEWING THE DIFFERENT BUILDINGS, THESE WERE THERE.

THANK YOU. THESE WERE THEIR RECOMMENDATIONS OF A VARIETY OF BUILDINGS WE NEED TO PAY ATTENTION TO, AND THINGS THAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO DO OVER THE LONG TERM.

THEY HAD SOME SUGGESTIONS FOR US FOR LOOKING AT PLANNING TO CONTINUE SPECIFICALLY PLANNING FOR THE LIBRARY DISTRICT AND ALSO FOR THE SHERIFF'S SUBSTATIONS.

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WE'VE HAD SOME CONTINUING CONVERSATIONS ABOUT HOW WE CAN BEST FULFILL THAT FOR THE LIBRARY, AND WE ARE WORKING WITH THE LIBRARY ON A POTENTIAL STUDY SPECIFICALLY FOR THEIR LIBRARIES.

THERE ARE SEVERAL OTHER CATEGORIES IN HERE.

SOME OF THEM ARE MAINTAIN LIKE THE WHITESPAR BUILDING.

IT'S A GOOD SOLID BUILDING PUBLIC DEFENDER'S LOCATED IN.

AND NOW WE'VE HAD SOME EXHIBIT THREES THIS YEAR FOR SOME FURTHER RENOVATIONS OF THAT BUILDING PARKING LOT.

SO WE'RE JUST GOING TO MAINTAIN THAT BUILDING AND KEEP THAT UP.

AND THAT WILL BE A GOOD, VIABLE BUILDING FOR US FOR QUITE SOME TIME.

SEVERAL OTHER BUILDINGS THAT FALL IN THAT COLUMN AS WELL.

IN THE NEXT GROUP WE HAVE THE RENOVATE.

THERE ARE SEVERAL BUILDINGS THAT WILL NEED A VARIETY OF RENOVATIONS OVER THE NEXT YEARS AS WE BOTH GROW AND EVOLVE AS A COMMUNITY.

SOME OF THESE HAVE BEEN TALKED ABOUT ALREADY, LIKE THE GURLEY STREET RENOVATION.

THAT WILL BE ONE OF THE FIRST PROJECTS THAT WE'RE SUGGESTING WE TACKLE.

BUT THERE WILL BE SOME OTHER RENOVATIONS THAT HAPPEN AS WE BUILD OTHER LOCATIONS OR MOVE DEPARTMENTS.

WE'LL HAVE TO COME BACK IN AND RENOVATE THE SPACE THEY VACATE TO MAKE IT MORE USABLE FOR THE DEPARTMENTS THAT ARE REMAINING IN THAT SPACE.

WE'VE GOT ANOTHER SECTION OVER HERE FOR EXPAND.

WE'VE GOT A VARIETY OF DEPARTMENTS THAT WILL PROBABLY STAY WHERE THEY'RE AT, BUT JUST NEED A LITTLE EXTRA SPACE OVER THE NEXT 10 OR 20 YEARS.

AND THERE'S SEVERAL BUILDINGS LISTED IN THERE THAT WE'LL BE LOOKING TO EXPAND.

SOME ADDITIONAL BUILDINGS COULD BE BUILD OR BUY.

AND THIS IS A GOOD TALKING POINT RIGHT HERE.

YOU'LL SEE ON SOME OF THE NEXT CHARTS THAT WE LIST BUILDINGS AS NEW, AND I'M JUST REFERRING TO NEW TO THE COUNTY.

IT DOES NOT NECESSARILY MEAN THAT IT HAS TO BE A NEW CONSTRUCTION.

IT'S LIKE BUYING ANOTHER CAR, A NEW CAR.

IT DOESN'T NECESSARILY MEAN IT'S NEW.

IT'S JUST NEW TO YOU. SO WE CAN CERTAINLY BUY NEW BUILDINGS IN THE COMMUNITY, REINVEST, REVITALIZE THE COMMUNITY, RENOVATE THOSE BUILDINGS.

AND THAT WILL HAVE AN IMPACT ON SOME OF OUR PROJECT TIMELINES, TOO, IF WE CHOOSE TO GO THAT ROUTE RATHER THAN BUILDING.

SO WE'LL KEEP OUR EYES OPEN AND LOOK FOR OPPORTUNITIES IN THAT SENSE.

SO AGAIN, JUST AN OVERALL RECOMMENDATION FROM GENSLER OF A VARIETY OF DIFFERENT THINGS THAT WE NEEDED TO LOOK AT.

AND IT'S TAKING ALL OF THAT INFORMATION.

AND I SAT WITH THE STEERING COMMITTEE AND WE ESTABLISHED OUR FIRST TAKE, OUR FIRST LOOK AT ADDRESSING THOSE PROJECTS THAT GENSLER HAD IDENTIFIED, AGAIN, THROUGH A VARIETY OF MEETINGS WITH DEPARTMENTS, YOU GUYS INCLUDED, AND ONGOING CONVERSATIONS THAT WE HAD.

THIS NEXT SLIDE.

PAGE FOUR IS REALLY AN OVERALL, AND I BELIEVE THIS IS WHERE WE'LL SPEND MOST OF OUR TIME DISCUSSING OUR PROJECTS TODAY.

IT'S AN OVERALL LOOK, BUT MY BEST GUESS AT WHAT PROJECT TIMELINES WOULD BE FOR ALL OF THESE DIFFERENT PROJECTS THAT WERE LISTED IN HERE.

THE STEERING COMMITTEE WE SELECTED THE FIRST GROUP.

BY NO MEANS HAVE WE LOOKED AT EVERY SINGLE POTENTIAL PROJECT AND NEED.

THESE JUST SEEM TO BE THE ONES THAT HAD THE BIGGEST NEEDS OR THE BIGGEST IMPACTS.

AND SO WE WE PUT THESE IN HERE AND TRIED TO PUT THEM IN IN A REASONABLE MANNER OF WHAT WE THOUGHT WAS ACHIEVABLE.

AND THEN TRIED TO STAGE THEM BASED UPON A GOOD ORDER OF PRECEDENCE.

SOME OF THESE, WE'LL JUST GO DOWN THE LIST ON A COUPLE OF THESE.

GURLEY STREET IS A BUILDING WE'VE ALREADY BEEN TALKING ABOUT.

WE'VE GOT PLANS PARTIALLY DONE.

AS SOON AS WE'RE GOOD WITH OUR GENERAL DIRECTION, THAT WILL PROBABLY BE THE FIRST PROJECT THAT WE TAKE ON.

AFTER THAT, WE'VE TALKED ABOUT A NEW BUILDING ADJACENT TO MY BUILDING OUT THERE ON COMMERCE DRIVE THAT IS LISTED HERE AS THE SITE RECORDER ON COMMERCE DRIVE.

THAT WOULD BRING THE ELECTIONS DEPARTMENT TOGETHER.

CURRENTLY, THEY ARE SPLIT BETWEEN OUR BUILDING OVER ON COMMERCE CENTER CIRCLE, AND THEN THEY HAVE SOME STAFF HERE AS WELL.

IT'S A MANAGEMENT HEADACHE FOR THEM HAVING TO TRAVEL BACK AND FORTH, ESPECIALLY WHEN THEY'RE MANAGING BALLOTS AND OTHER THINGS LIKE THAT.

AND THEY HAVE FOR A LONG TIME, QUITE A NUMBER OF YEARS, BEEN ASKING TO BE CONSOLIDATED INTO A SINGLE LOCATION.

SO THIS WAS ONE OF THE FIRST NEW BUILDINGS THAT WE HAD PROPOSED TO BUILD.

AND THEN WHAT WOULD HAPPEN IS WHEN THEY WOULD VACATE SOME SPACE HERE, WE WOULD NEED TO COME BACK AND RENOVATE FAIR STREET.

WOULDN'T HAPPEN IMMEDIATELY, BUT THAT WOULD BE THE ESSENTIALLY THE FOURTH PROJECT.

WE WOULD DO THE BUILDING OUT THERE ON COMMERCE.

AND AS SOON AS THAT ONE WAS AT A POINT, WE THOUGHT WE COULD MANAGE THE CONTRACTING AND MOVE INTO THE NEXT PHASE.

WE WOULD START ANOTHER NEW LOCATION OVER IN COTTONWOOD.

THERE'S BEEN A NEED FOR AN EXPANDED HEALTH SERVICES AND ALSO A DATA CENTER OVER THERE.

YOU KNOW, THIS IS AN INTERESTING ONE.

I ACTUALLY FOUND A BUILDING FOR SALE ABOUT A HALF A MILE FROM OUR SIXTH STREET LOCATION.

IT'S AN OLD CHURCH.

RIGHT HERE. I'M PROPOSING SOMETHING NEW, AS IF WE'RE TALKING ABOUT BUILDING SOMETHING NEW.

BUT THERE IS A GREAT OPPORTUNITY THERE.

AND THAT'S AN INTERESTING CONVERSATION, BECAUSE IF WE FIND A BUILDING LIKE THAT, THAT REALLY SUITS THE NEEDS, IT DOES NOT NECESSARILY HAVE TO BE PROJECT NUMBER THREE, WHICH I

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THINK ADDRESSES SUPERVISOR BROWN'S COMMENTS ABOUT SETTING A VERY SPECIFIC DIRECTION.

I THINK WHAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR IS A RECOMMENDATION, AND WE ALL NEED TO UNDERSTAND THAT WE NEED SOME FLEXIBILITY IN THIS PLAN BECAUSE ALL PLANS CAN CHANGE.

COUNTY DIRECTION COULD CHANGE.

WE COULD CERTAINLY FIND BUILDINGS THAT COME UP FOR SALE THAT REALLY SUIT OUR NEED VERY WELL.

AND WE MAY NEED TO TAKE ACTION ON THEM WHILE THEY'RE AVAILABLE.

AND THAT COULD CERTAINLY CHANGE THE ORDER OF OUR BUILDINGS AND OUR PROJECT LIST IN HERE.

AND, BRANDON, CAN I INTERRUPT YOU FIRST? CERTAINLY. ALSO, I'M LOOKING AT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT NEW INFRASTRUCTURE.

YOU'RE BUILDING OUT IN ELECTIONS IT RECORDER AND DOING ALL THIS STUFF ON COMMERCE.

BUT YOU HAVE A IF YOU LOOK AT YOUR GRAPHS ON THE POPULATION GROWTH, IT'S IN PRESCOTT VALLEY IN THAT CORRIDOR WHERE THE MAJOR POPULATION GROWTH IS.

AND THAT'S WHERE IT'S ANTICIPATED IN THE NEXT 20 YEARS.

SO YOU TALK ABOUT IT BEING EXPENSIVE MOVING THOSE.

BUT IF WE'RE BUILDING NEW FACILITIES, WHY AREN'T WE GOING TOWARD THE AREAS WHERE OUR POPULATION GROWTH AND WHERE IT EXISTS NOW? AND ALSO FOR THE NEXT 20 YEARS, IT'S ANTICIPATED THAT THE 16% INCREASE IN POPULATION IN THOSE AREAS.

WHY ARE WE BUILDING AWAY FROM THOSE AREAS INSTEAD OF MOVING THAT INFRASTRUCTURE IN THAT AREA? HI, I HAVE A COMMENT IN REGARD TO THAT.

I UNDERSTAND WHERE JIM'S COMING FROM.

HOWEVER, ARE WE MEASURING THE POPULATION GROWTH WITHIN THE INCORPORATED AREAS? IS THAT WHERE WE'RE SEEING THE GROWTH? WELL, THEN IS THAT A COUNTY NEED NECESSARILY OR ARE WE STILL FOR THE UNINCORPORATED AREA? BUT MY QUESTION IS ELECTIONS FALL WITHIN THE MUNICIPALITIES OR REPRESENTING THOSE MUNICIPALITIES OR THEIR VOTERS? ELECTIONS COUNT FOR PRESCOTT VALLEY.

NO WE DON'T. SO, LET ME TAKE A SHOT AT ANSWERING A COUPLE OF THINGS BACK TO THE POPULATION PROJECTIONS MADE HERE BY GENSLER. WE DON'T HAVE AS BRANDON SAID, THOSE BROKEN DOWN BY CITY, BUT THEY DID LOOK AT THE COUNTY AS A WHOLE.

SO THAT WOULD TAKE INTO ACCOUNT ALL OF OUR MUNICIPALITIES AND MAKING THESE POPULATION GROWTH PROJECTIONS.

SO THAT DATA IS CONTAINED IN THAT, THE SECOND SLIDE.

AND THE CITY AND TOWNS WITH THEIR HAVE THAT POPULATION GROWTH OR EXPANSION OF THINGS.

THEY'RE ALREADY DOING THAT.

DO WE NEED TO BE THERE TO COVER THEM AS WELL? WELL, I THINK THAT'S PART OF THE REASON OF THIS CONVERSATION TODAY TO KIND OF SORT THAT OUT.

WHAT IS THE BOARD'S INTENT, WHICH I THINK IS GETTING TO SUPERVISOR GREGORY'S QUESTION OF THE BOARD HAVE PREVIOUSLY BEEN AND I KNOW I THINK MAYBE HARRY PROBABLY AGREES WITH ME, IS THAT PLACES LIKE CONGRESS, ASH FORK AND IN YOUR DISTRICT UP THERE IN THAT AREA, UP THERE ALONG THE RIVER, I'VE FORGOTTEN RIMROCK, BEAVER CREEK, CORNVILLE ALL THOSE AREAS ARE UNINCORPORATED AREAS.

YOU KNOW, THEY MAY NOT BE GROWING AS FAST AS THE CITIES AND TOWNS AND SOME ESPECIALLY PUBLIC, YOU KNOW, PRESCOTT VALLEY.

BUT STILL, OUR CHARGE IS TO TAKE CARE OF THOSE IN THE UNINCORPORATED AREA, NOT NECESSARILY WITHIN THE CITIES.

THE CITIES HAVE THE SAME SERVICES.

THEY HAVE LAW ENFORCEMENT AND EVERYTHING ELSE, BUT WE'RE TALKING ELECTIONS.

WHO HANDLES THOSE ELECTIONS FOR THE CITY? I THINK THE COUNTY DOES.

SUPERVISOR, WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT THOSE SERVICES THAT WE'RE PROVIDING, THOSE ARE STILL OUR CONSTITUENTS IN THAT AREA.

SO THEY'RE STILL PROVIDING ELECTIONS AND WE NEED TO GO WHERE OUR POPULATION.

SO, IT DIDN'T TAKE US LONG TO, IN MY OPINION, TO REALLY GET TO THE HEART OF THE MATTER.

AND IT IS REALLY A PHILOSOPHICAL DEBATE.

YOU'RE BOTH CORRECT THAT THOSE WHO LIVE OUTSIDE OF THE MUNICIPALITIES RELY MORE ON COUNTY SERVICES.

BUT TO YOUR POINT, ALL RESIDENTS OF THIS COUNTY ARE TAXED EQUALLY FOR COUNTY SERVICES.

BUT HAVING SAID THAT, WE NEED TO THINK THEN ABOUT WHAT ARE THE PRIORITIES? AND WHERE THEY SHOULD BE AND LOOK THROUGH THAT LENS.

YOU KNOW, THE VILLAGE OF OAK CREEK HAS ALMOST NO SERVICES.

OKAY. NONE FOR MEDICAL CARE.

AND IT'S A PROBLEM.

RIGHT. AND I AGREE WITH YOU.

AND I THINK THAT'S WHY I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT WHEN WE'RE LOOKING AT THE LIBRARY SUBSTATIONS, MAYBE WE COME UP WITH A MODEL THAT PROVIDES SERVICES IN OUR UNINCORPORATED AREAS AND PRIORITIZE THOSE BEFORE WE START GOING IN AND BUILDING OUT MULTI-MILLION DOLLAR FACILITIES IN PRESCOTT.

SO I THINK THAT OUR GOAL IS TO PROVIDE SERVICES FOR THE UNINCORPORATED AREAS, BUT ALSO WE PROVIDE SOME SERVICES LIKE ELECTIONS TO OUR MUNICIPALITIES.

SO WE DO HAVE TO BUILD OUT IN THOSE AREAS.

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BUT WHY ARE WE JUST DOING COTTONWOOD AND PRESCOTT WHEN WE KNOW THE POPULATION GROWTH IS IN OTHER AREAS? YEAH, I CONCUR WITH THAT.

I THINK WE HAVE A DUTY IN OUR MISSION, AS A MATTER OF FACT, TO ADDRESS THOSE WHO HAVE THE LEAST SERVICES AVAILABLE TO THEM WHERE THEY LIVE, AND THAT IS IN THE UNINCORPORATED AREA.

SO I THINK YOU'VE HEARD ME USE THIS TERM BEFORE, BUT MY OPINION WE'VE GOT TO COME UP WITH THE RIGHT BALANCE.

SO, SUPERVISOR, TO YOUR QUESTION, IF WE'RE GOING TO BUILD A NEW BUILDING FOR ELECTIONS, RECORD ON IT, WHY WOULDN'T WE DO IT IN PRESCOTT VALLEY? THE SHOWS THE MOST POPULATION GROWTH.

FAIR STATEMENT.

HOWEVER, I THINK YOU ALSO HAVE TO BALANCE THAT WITH OUR OPPORTUNITIES TO BUILD ON COMMERCE WHERE WE ALREADY OWN THE LAND.

WE ALREADY HAVE THE PAD BUILT, WE'VE GOT SOME EFFICIENCIES OF SERVICES BECAUSE ALL OF YOUR SERVICES ARE THERE TOGETHER.

NOT SAYING THAT'S THE RIGHT DIRECTION.

I'M JUST SAYING THAT'S PART OF THE CALCULATION INTO HOW DO YOU MAKE THAT DECISION WHERE YOU NEED TO BE.

WELL, IF YOU IF YOU KNOW WHERE THE POPULATION IS GROWING, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT PLANNING GROWTH.

SO OUR CONSTITUENTS DON'T HAVE TO DRIVE 20 MILES TO GET THOSE SERVICES.

WE'RE GOING WHERE THE CENTER OF THE POPULATION IS RIGHT NOW.

THE LARGEST MUNICIPALITY IS PRESCOTT VALLEY.

IT'S NOT PRESCOTT.

SO MY CONCERN IS OVER THE NEXT 20 YEARS AND WITH THE INFORMATION YOU PROVIDED, ITS 16% GROWTH.

THAT'S THE LARGEST GROWTH AREA IN THE COUNTY.

SO MY CONCERN IS, YEAH, WE MIGHT HAVE PROPERTY THERE, BUT WHAT MAKES THE MOST SENSE FOR GOING OUT FOR THE NEXT 20 TO 25 YEARS? AND, AND MY I THINK MY PRIORITY WOULD BE IS FIRST, PRIORITIZE YOUR SUBSTATIONS, YOUR UNINCORPORATED AREAS AND REALLY INVEST IN THAT TO GET THOSE SERVICES OUT THERE.

AND THEN LOOK AT WHEN WE'RE GOING TO START BUILDING NEW FACILITIES MULTI-MILLION.

WE NEED TO CONCENTRATE ON WHERE THE GROWTH IS.

AND THAT'S WHY WE'RE HERE TODAY.

AND THAT'S WHY WE HIRED A CONSULTANT TO COME UP WITH THIS INFORMATION ABOUT THE GROWTH AREAS.

I AGREE WITH JIM IN REGARD TO THAT.

THAT SPECIFICALLY IS THAT I HAVE THE MOST REMOTE AREAS, PROBABLY IN THE COUNTY, AND SO DOES HARRY.

AND THAT'S WHY I'VE ALWAYS SUPPORTED HARRY'S, YOU KNOW, THOUGHT THAT WE SHOULD HAVE SOME KIND OF A COUNTY BUILDING.

HEALTH DEPARTMENTS.

SUBSTATION. TYPE OF ARRANGEMENT IN CONGRESS.

AND I FULLY SUPPORT THAT BECAUSE THERE'S MORE PEOPLE IN THAT GENERAL VICINITY THAN UP IN ASH FORK AND ALSO IN SELIGMAN.

I MEAN, UP THERE, COUNTY RESIDENTS, PROBABLY ABOUT 2000 PEOPLE, IS ALL NOT MUCH.

SO, AND THERE'S THAT MANY IN [INAUDIBLE].

SO JUST I BUT I DON'T WANT TO CENTRALIZE OUR EFFORTS IN THE CITIES AND TOWNS THAT DON'T REALLY NEED US THERE, OTHER THAN WHAT WE ARE ALREADY.

AND AS FAR AS ELECTION GOES, I HAVE A REAL PROBLEM WITH ELECTIONS BECAUSE WE JUST SPENT MORE THAN $200,000 ON REMODELING SOMETHING.

DID WE DO THIS JUST TO TAKE THE WIND OUT OF SOMEBODY'S SAILS LIKE THE REPUBLICAN PARTY? IS THAT WHY WE DID IT? AND THEN WHEN WE SPIN IT THE WRONG WAY AND SHAME ON US.

OKAY, SO WHAT I'D LIKE TO SAY IS GETTING OVER TO PRESCOTT VALLEY, WHERE JASPER'S IS.

LET'S TAKE THAT AS A POINT BEHIND JASPER'S.

IF YOU GO A LITTLE BIT FURTHER OUT, THERE ARE NEW HOMES BEING BUILT, BRAND NEW ONES.

THAT IS AN ADDRESS OF THE CITY OF PRESCOTT.

THAT IS NOT PRESCOTT VALLEY.

CORRECT. SO WHAT I WANT TO SAY THERE IS THAT PRESCOTT VALLEY IS THE BIGGEST GROWING AREA, BUT PRESCOTT IS STILL MOVING FORWARD OUT THERE IN A LOT OF THAT OPEN SPACE.

WHEN IT COMES TO ELECTIONS, MICHELLE AND LAUREN DO DRIVE ALL OVER THE AREAS, CHECKING ON ALL THESE DIFFERENT LOCATIONS THAT THEY'RE AT. JUST WANT TO PUT THAT OUT THERE WERE THERE IN PRESCOTT VALLEY, AND THEY'RE GOING BACK AND FORTH AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

THE REMODEL, THE REMODEL WAS REALLY FOR THE CITIZENS, NOT A REPUBLICAN PARTY, BUT A CITIZENS THAT WANTED TO BE ABLE TO GET UP TO THE FLOOR AND LOOK AND SEE WHAT WAS HAPPENING IN REGARDS TO THE ELECTION, MORE TRANSPARENCY AND BIGGER WINDOWS AND MORE AVAILABILITY. THAT'S WHO IT WAS FOR.

AND IT'S THEIR MONEY AND THEIR TAXES.

SO I HAVE NOT HEARD ONE COMPLAINT ABOUT SPENDING THE $200,000 OF THEIR TAXPAYER DOLLARS ON SOMETHING THAT THEY ACTUALLY WERE VERY INTERESTED IN SEEING, AND I'M NOT SAYING THAT TAKE THEM AWAY AS A PRIORITY.

THE PROBLEM IS, IS THEY'VE ALREADY GOTTEN A SHARE OF MONEY THAT NOBODY ELSE GOT, AND WE COULD HAVE USED THAT MONEY EASILY FOR SOME OF THE PLANS FOR YOU KNOW, OUT THERE AT COMMERCE INSTEAD.

SO DID WE JUMP SUPERVISOR BROWN?

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I'M JUST HERE TO SAY THAT THAT MONEY WASN'T GIVEN TO ELECTIONS.

IT WAS GIVEN FOR THE PEOPLE TO BE ABLE TO GO TO ELECTIONS AND HAVE THE TRANSPARENCY THAT THEY COULD GET.

AND THEN ON TOP OF THAT, THEY WE STILL KNOW THAT THERE WAS ALWAYS A NEED.

LOOK AT THIS GROWTH.

SO, THIS IS WE KNOW THERE'S GOING TO BE A BUILDING WITH THIS, THIS THIS EVENT WE DID ON THE SECOND.

YES. WE'RE VERY HAPPY.

WELL, I AM AND A LOT OF CITIZENS ARE I DON'T KNOW ABOUT YOU, BUT I SUPPORT IT.

I THINK IT WAS GREAT.

AND IT SHOWED THE CITIZENS THAT WE CARE AND WE LISTEN TO THEM.

THAT'S THE JOB WE HAVE.

WHY DO I NEED TO BUILD A BUILDING AT COMMERCE THEN FOR ELECTIONS? SO I DON'T KNOW IF YOU NEED TO BUILD A BUILDING.

I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT THAT.

I'M TALKING ABOUT WHAT WE DID FOR THE PEOPLE THAT WE SERVE WHO WERE ELECTED BY.

SO I'M NOT SAYING THAT I'M TALKING ABOUT COMMERCE.

MARTIN, DID YOU HAVE A COMMENT? YES, I DO. THANK YOU, VICE CHAIR.

I HAVE THE GOOD PLEASURE OF WORKING WITH THE ELECTIONS DIRECTOR.

THAT'S ONE OF THE DIRECTORS WHO REPORTS TO ME.

I GET TO WORK WITH HER ON A REGULAR BASIS.

I WOULD SAY ABOUT IN TERMS OF THE REMODEL, THEY HAD STAFF WHO THEY COULDN'T FIT IN THEIR EXISTING SPACE.

THEY HAD FUNCTIONS THAT THEY WERE STATUTORILY REQUIRED TO PERFORM THAT THEY COULDN'T PERFORM WITHIN THEIR EXISTING SPACE.

I WENT THROUGH A TOUR OF THE SPACE THEY HAD.

THEY DESCRIBED WHAT THEY WERE REQUIRED TO DO, AND THEY SIMPLY DID NOT HAVE THE SPACE TO DO IT.

THE PROBLEM IS, AS A COUNTY, WE HAVE LIMITED SPACE AVAILABLE.

SO WHEN THEY CAME FORWARD WITH THIS NEED, WE WERE RESTRICTED.

IN TERMS OF WHAT SPACE DO WE HAVE THAT WE CAN ALLOCATE IN ORDER TO ALLOW THEM TO PERFORM THESE NECESSARY FUNCTIONS AND FIT THESE, THIS STAFF WITHIN THEIR DEPARTMENT. THEY PICKED UP BASICALLY A BREAK ROOM AND A LITTLE BIT OF ADDITIONAL SPACE.

THERE WAS A VERY CREATIVE RECONFIGURATION THAT WAS DONE.

THERE WAS ADDITIONAL WINDOWS AND VIEWING OPPORTUNITIES THAT WERE ADDED AS WELL.

BECAUSE WE WERE DOING A RECONFIGURATION OF THEIR SPACE, THEY DETERMINED THAT WOULD BE OF BENEFIT TO THE PUBLIC AND INCREASED TRANSPARENCY RELATED TO THE FUNCTIONS THAT THEY PERFORM WITHIN THAT DEPARTMENT, BUT IT WAS VERY MUCH NEEDED FOR THEM TO CONTINUE TO DO WHAT THEY'RE REQUIRED TO DO.

AT THE SAME TIME, THE AVAILABLE SPACE FOR THAT RENOVATION WAS VERY LIMITED.

AND SO YOU'RE RIGHT THAT THE PROJECT WAS COMPLETE AND THEY ARE ALREADY TIGHT FOR SPACE.

BUT THAT'S JUST THE REALITY OF THE FAIR STREET BUILDING AND KIND OF THE COUNTY SITUATION IN GENERAL IN TERMS OF AVAILABLE SPACE TO DO WHAT WE'RE REQUIRED TO DO.

AND IF I COULD JUMP IN AT THIS POINT, I THINK THAT THE DISCUSSION AROUND ELECTIONS AND THESE DEPARTMENTS IN GENERAL, GENSLER LOOKED AT PROJECTED STAFF GROWTH AS WELL OVER THE NEXT 20 YEARS. SO WE'RE NOT JUST LOOKING AT THE NEXT 5 OR 10.

IT'S A VERY LONG RANGE PLAN AND THESE ARE INTERRELATED FOR THE COMMERCE DRIVE, AS THE COUNTY MANAGER SPOKE TO THE RECOMMENDATIONS THERE FOR SPECIFIC REASONS.

WE OWN IT. IT'S PREPARED.

IT WOULD CONSOLIDATE THE LOCATION OF MANY COUNTY SERVICES, BUT THEN IT ALSO PLAYS INTO THE GROWTH NEEDS THAT THIS FACILITY WOULD SEE OVER THE NEXT 20 YEARS WITHOUT ELECTIONS.

AND AND IT AND THE RECORDER MOVING OUT OF THIS FACILITY, THERE WOULD NOT BE SPACE TO ACCOMMODATE FUTURE GROWTH IN THIS.

SO YOU'RE KIND OF LOOKING AT A CHAIN REACTION OF EVENTS THAT WILL TAKE PLACE OVER A COUPLE OF DECADES.

YEAH, THANK YOU FOR THAT.

TYLER. AND I WANT TO GO BACK TO THE CONVERSATION SUPERVISOR YOU AND I ARE HAVING SOMETIMES FEEL WE'RE SPARRING ON THIS.

I WANT TO BE CLEAR, STAFF COMING UP WITH THESE RECOMMENDATIONS DID A NUMBER OF THINGS.

WE LOOKED AT OUR EXISTING INVESTMENT WHERE BUILDINGS WERE.

WE LOOKED AT ADJACENT OPPORTUNITIES THAT TYLER JUST REFERRED TO COUPLED WITH GROWTH.

AND THAT'S WHY YOU'RE SEEING THESE PROJECTIONS.

IF THE BOARD'S DIRECTION IS NO, WE THINK GROWTH IS THE PRIMARY FACTOR THAT WE NEED TO CONSIDER.

THAT'S FINE.

WE'RE PERFECTLY COMFORTABLE WITH THAT.

AND WE WOULD REVISE THESE BASED ON THAT TO DATE.

AGAIN PART OF THE STRUGGLE IS HERE.

MY ESTIMATION BEING HERE FOR TWO YEARS, THE BOARD HAS NEVER GIVEN CLEAR GUIDANCE ON WHAT'S OUR PHILOSOPHY TO YOUR STAFF.

SO WE CAN GO THEN AND EXECUTE A PLAN AGAIN.

THAT'S WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO.

AT LEAST START THAT CONVERSATION TO GET US IN THAT DIRECTION TODAY.

THAT MAKES SENSE. ACTUALLY, THE AVAILABILITY OF FUNDS WAS ACTUALLY THE MOVING TYPE OF WHAT COULD WE AFFORD, YOU KNOW, WITHOUT GOING INTO THE PIGGY BANK.

SO NOW WE'RE MOVING FORWARD WITH WE HAVE ENOUGH FUNDS TO DO SOMETHING PLANNED.

BUT THE OTHER WAS STRICTLY AS IT FELL, ESPECIALLY WHEN WE CAME TO TRYING TO, YOU KNOW, THE PUBLIC DEFENDER WAS THE FIRST BUILDING WE BOUGHT AND SAID, THIS

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IS GOING TO COST US A LOT LESS THAN THE RENT WE WERE PAYING FOR THE SAME BUILDING.

SO IN TIME, I THINK YOU ALREADY IT'S PAID OFF MORE THAN PAID FOR ITSELF.

BUT THEN WE ALSO THEN MOVED OVER, AND WE FOUND, YOU KNOW, IN COTTONWOOD, WE FOUND THE BUILDING FOR THE PROBATION OFFICER.

AND SO WE ADOPTED THAT THINKING THAT POSSIBLY ANOTHER GROUP WOULD BE IN THERE AS WELL, BUT OBVIOUSLY NOT.

SO THAT WAS THE IDEA EARLY ON TO FIND SOMETHING WE COULD AFFORD TO DO RIGHT NOW.

SO BUT IS THAT NOW WHAT DRIVES OUR DECISIONS? I MEAN, THAT TO ME IS REALLY WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO REACH FOR.

WE USED TO DO IT THAT WAY OF NECESSITY.

AND IS THAT THE BEST WAY TO MAKE A PLAN, OR IS IT AS THE SUPERVISOR GREGORY SUGGESTING LOOKING AT WHAT THE TRAJECTORY IS AND WHETHER IT'S IN POPULATION OR SERVICES THAT WE COULD EXPECT THAT WILL BE NEEDED.

THANK YOU. YEAH. AGAIN, THAT'S WHAT I'M SUGGESTING.

WE NEED TO COME UP WITH WHAT IS OUR PHILOSOPHY AND AGAIN, GIVE THAT DIRECTION TO STAFF TO GO EXECUTE.

WHAT WE'VE HAD IS AN AD HOC APPROACH TO FACILITIES NEEDS.

WHEN NEEDS POPPED UP, WE DID WHATEVER WAS QUICKEST AND MOST COST EFFICIENT TO ADDRESS IT.

I'M SUGGESTING THAT'S NOT THE BEST WAY TO MOVE AN ORGANIZATION OF OUR SIZE.

WITH PROJECTED GROWTH FORWARD, WE NEED TO COME UP WITH A MORE PROACTIVE STRATEGY TO OUR FACILITIES NEEDS RATHER THAN THIS REACTIONARY MODEL WE'VE BEEN IN.

I COULD NOT AGREE MORE.

AND FURTHER, I WOULD SAY THAT JUST BECAUSE PRESCOTT VALLEY IS GOING TO HAVE THE 60% DOESN'T MEAN THAT MCGUIRE VILLE OR BEAVER CREEK OR SURROUNDING.

SMALLER. UNINCORPORATED AREAS, OR WHERE THERE ARE MORE VULNERABLE POPULATION CLUSTERS THAT WE SHOULDN'T BE LOOKING AT.

WHAT IS THAT? HOW DOES THAT INFORM US IN TERMS OF WHAT KIND OF PRESENCE SHOULD WE HAVE IN THESE COMMUNITIES? AND IT SEEMS TO ME THAT THEY'RE ALL GROWING.

ALL OF THEM HAVE AT LEAST 8% PROJECTION OF GROWTH.

SO WE NEED TO PAY ATTENTION TO ALL OF THAT.

WELL, AND IN SOME CASES, WOULD WE NOT.

AND JIM AND I HAVE TALKED ABOUT THIS BEFORE, IS HAVING SOME KIND OF A MODEL THAT SAYS, OKAY, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A BUILDING AND IT'S GOING TO HAVE THE COURT, IT'S GOING TO HAVE MEDICAL, IT'S GOING TO HAVE COUNTY SERVICES, IT'S GOING TO HAVE THE SHERIFF ALL IN THE SAME SMALL BUILDING.

DO WE? IS THAT WHAT WE ARE LOOKING FOR, OR WE WANT A BIG BUILDING TO TAKE THE PLACE OF ALL? I DON'T KNOW, I'D BE OKAY WITH JUST REPURPOSING A BUILDING THAT'S OUT THERE THAT'S CONSISTENT WITH WHAT WE COULD PUT IN IT AND WHAT THE NEED IS.

WELL, AND I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT.

WE HAVE SEVERAL DIFFERENT COMMUNITIES, UNINCORPORATED AREAS IN THE COUNTY, AND WE DO HAVE EXISTING INFRASTRUCTURE OUT THERE.

BUT I THINK IT WOULD BE A GOOD IDEA IF WE HAVE FUNDING AVAILABLE NOW IS TO INVEST THAT IN IT.

JUST LIKE CRAIG WAS SAYING.

LOOKING AT SHERIFF'S SUBSTATION COMMUNITY SERVICES, COMMUNITY ROOM AND JUST HAVING A GENERAL PLAN, AND THEN WE START PUSHING THOSE INTO OUR UNINCORPORATED AREAS.

SO WE HAVE THOSE PRESENCE OUT THERE.

BECAUSE WE'VE NEVER MOVED FORWARD LIKE THAT.

AND I THINK WITH SOME OF THE ARPA FUNDING WE MIGHT HAVE AVAILABLE NOW, WE INVEST THAT IN PLANNING AND GETTING THOSE PROJECTS READY TO GO AND THEN IDENTIFY THE NEEDS WITHIN THOSE COMMUNITIES AND GETTING WITH COMMUNITY HEALTH AND FINDING OUT WHAT THEY'RE GETTING OUT OF VOC OR CORNVILLE AND THOSE DIFFERENT AREAS, AND START MAKING THAT A PRIORITY OF THE BOARD.

AND THEN WE GOT TO REMEMBER WE'RE RIGHT NOW WE HAVE RESTRICTIONS FOR THE EXPENDITURE LIMIT.

WE HAVE VERY LIMITED FUNDING MOVING FORWARD FROM HERE ON OUT.

WE HAVE A NEW BOARD THAT IS COMING IN IN THE NEXT FOUR MONTHS, TOO.

SO I THINK IT'S JUST IMPORTANT MAYBE FOR US, I'M THINKING TODAY IS TO IDENTIFY SOME OF THE THINGS WE THE IMMEDIATE NEEDS WE WANT TO GET ESTABLISHED. AND THAT I WOULD BE FOR LOOKING AT THE SUBSTATIONS AND THE LIBRARY AND THE COMMUNITY CLINICS AND UNINCORPORATED AREAS VERSUS THE LONG TERM, WHEN YOU HAVE DIFFERENT LEADERS COMING IN IN THE NEXT THREE MONTHS MIGHT TAKE US IN A DIFFERENT DIRECTION FOR THE LONG TERM, TEN AND 20 YEAR PROJECTS.

SO BUT I HOPE THEY WOULD CONCUR.

BUT I AGREE WITH ALMOST FORGIVE THE DEFINITION OF IT A KIOSK APPROACH DEPENDING ON THE SIZE AND CENSUS OF THE COMMUNITY.

WHAT SIZE WOULD THAT KIOSK BE THAT COULD OFFER THE CAFETERIA OF SERVICES THAT WE ARE ABLE TO OFFER? WE JUST DON'T PUT THEM TOGETHER OUT THERE.

AND I THINK THAT THEY WOULD BE UTILIZED THAT WAY.

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AND IT ALSO GIVES US AN OPPORTUNITY TO LOOK AT WHAT'S ALREADY THERE THAT WE COULD REPURPOSE IF WE NEEDED TO DO THAT.

BUT I CERTAINLY LIKE THE IDEA OF LOOKING AT WHERE IN UNINCORPORATED AREAS THE NEED IS GREATEST AND HOW CAN WE CLUSTER OUR KIOSK IF YOU WILL DELIVER THE SERVICES IN A WAY THAT'S NOT ONLY ECONOMICAL, BUT PROVIDES A MULTITUDE OF SERVICES THAT ARE NOT NOW BEING OFFERED? I MEAN, FOR HEAVEN'S SAKES, IN IN COTTONWOOD, WE GET THE MAMMOGRAM OFFERING ONCE A YEAR, ONCE A YEAR FOR WOMEN.

THAT'S NOT ENOUGH.

AND THAT IS A BIG VAN.

AND SO WHAT DO WE DO ABOUT THAT? BUT CERTAINLY, THAT NEED IS A PRESSING NEED.

I WOULD SUGGEST, BASED ON DATA FOR BREAST CANCER ALONE, THEY'RE NOT GETTING THE SCREENING.

THEY NEED TO PREVENT IT.

I MEAN, TO DEAL WITH IT WHILE THEY CAN SAVE LIVES.

SO DO THOSE. LAST THREE COMMENTS.

LET ME SAY THIS.

I BELIEVE WE'RE STILL TALKING ABOUT, AND I BELIEVE THAT THIS SET OF RECOMMENDATIONS FROM OUR CONSULTANT IS CONSISTENT WITH WHAT I CONTINUE TO CALL A HUB AND SPOKE MODEL THAT, IN ALL LIKELIHOOD, WHAT MAKES SENSE FOR US IS THAT THE MAIN POPULATION CENTERS CONTAIN THE BULK OF SERVICES.

BUT THEN WHEN YOU GET OUT INTO THE UNINCORPORATED AREAS, YOU START LOOKING AT THAT SPOKE MODEL, WHICH I AGREE, I THINK IT'S THOSE COMMUNITY FACILITIES THAT BACK TO SLIDE THREE IS WHAT WE'RE RECOMMENDING UNDER THE PLANNING PIECE TO DO A LITTLE MORE IN DEPTH STUDY OF WHAT DOES THAT LOOK LIKE IN TERMS OF INCLUDING LIBRARIES AND SHERIFF SUBSTATIONS.

WE'VE HAD SOME CONVERSATION WITH STAFF.

I BELIEVE THEY AGREE THAT THAT MODEL MAKES SENSE.

SO ALONG WITH THAT, I WOULD INCLUDE SPACE FOR COMMUNITY HEALTH, MAYBE DEVELOPMENT SERVICES, WHATEVER THAT LOOKS LIKE, AND WE START TO DEVELOP THAT.

SO IF THAT'S THE DIRECTION THAT YOU THINK WE OUGHT TO PROCEED WITH FIRST, I THINK THAT MAKES SENSE.

WE PROBABLY NEED A LITTLE MORE STUDY ABOUT EXACTLY WHAT DOES THAT LOOK LIKE, HOW MANY OF THOSE AND WHERE THEY SHOULD BE PLACED STRATEGICALLY TO MEET THE NEEDS OF OUR POPULATION.

SO ESSENTIALLY THERE'S SATELLITE OFFERINGS, CORRECT? WELL, IT'S KIND OF INTERESTING, YOU KNOW, SAYING THAT BECAUSE THEN YOU HAVE TO TAKE A LOOK AT THE COMMUNITIES.

AND I LOOK AT THAT AND SELIGMAN OKAY.

SELIGMAN HAS A COURT HAS A LIBRARY, HAS A SUBSTATION, SO TO SPEAK.

THEY DON'T HAVE ANY BATHROOMS, BUT THEY'VE GOT ALL THREE OF THOSE LOCATIONS PULLED DOWN PRETTY GOOD.

BUT ONE IS A TRAILER.

ONE IS A BUILDING THAT'S BEEN THERE FOR 80 YEARS, RIGHT? YOU KNOW, AND IT REALLY AND DO WE HAVE WE SHOULD HAVE A BUNKHOUSE, PROBABLY BECAUSE WE HAVE DEPUTIES THAT ARE OUT THERE THAT ARE ACTUALLY STAYING OVERNIGHT FOR SEVERAL DAYS IN A ROW, IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN.

RIGHT. YEAH. SO AND WE TALK ABOUT, WELL, THEN MAYBE WE NEED A SUBSTATION AT ASH FORK.

MORE PEOPLE CAN, YOU KNOW, WHERE THE COUNTY COMES TOGETHER WITH ANOTHER COUNTY? AND BUT AGAIN, THE POPULATION IS MOSTLY COCONINO COUNTY.

IT'S NOT OUR COUNTY.

MOST PEOPLE THINK IT IS, BUT IT'S NOT.

WELL, A MILE NORTH OF THE FREEWAY.

AND WE GO INTO COCONINO COUNTY AND A COUNTY OF OUR SIZE.

DOES THAT MAKE SENSE TO HAVE TWO THAT CLOSELY TOGETHER? WELL, AND THAT'S WHAT I'M SUGGESTING, IS IF WE HAD ONE THAT COULD SERVE AS BOTH CORRECT, WE'D BE IN A MUCH BETTER POSITION.

WE CAN MOVE THE JUDGE IN HIS COURTROOM.

GIVE HIM A BATHROOM.

CORRECT. YOU KNOW, WE CAN KEEP THE LIBRARY THE WAY IT IS AND OR EXPAND IT INTO THE COURTHOUSE, I DON'T KNOW.

SO IT'S REALLY ABOUT CONSOLIDATION AND GROWING SATELLITES WHERE THEY ARE NEEDED BASED ON EITHER LACK OF THOSE SERVICES OR POPULATION GROWTH OR BOTH.

AND AGAIN, TO PROVIDE OTHER COUNTY SERVICES TO THOSE MORE REMOTE AREAS THAT WE'RE NOT PROVIDING NOW.

WELL, AND WE'RE SEEING ALSO THAT HEALTH IS CITED, THAT THEY'RE GOING TO COME OUT AND EXPAND THEIR OUTREACH INTO PLACES LIKE ASH FORK, WHERE IT WOULD BE CHEAPER TO RENT FROM THE OLD CLINIC AT 350 BUCKS A MONTH.

I THINK THAT'S PRETTY CHEAP FOR US TO PUT SOMEBODY COMING IN ONCE OR TWICE A WEEK OR SOME KIND OF A SCHEDULE.

AND THE SAME THING.

LAST TIME I WAS TALKING TO ONE OF THE HEALTH FOLKS, THEY WERE TALKING ABOUT DOING SOMETHING SIMILAR IN CHINO VALLEY, BECAUSE WE'VE RUN A REPORT A COUPLE OF TIMES ON ADDRESSES OF THE PEOPLE THAT COME TO THE PRESCOTT VALLEY CLINIC, AND THE VAST MAJORITY LIVE NORTH OF CHINO.

SO, YOU GOT TO TAKE THOSE THINGS INTO CONSIDERATION.

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DO WE WANT TO BRING THE FACILITY TO THEM OR THEM TO US, OR A COMBINATION THEREOF? SO THAT SMALL RURAL AREAS COULD HAVE A SATELLITE THAT BOTH THE MULTIPLE COMMUNITIES COULD GO TO AND IT WOULDN'T BE A HARDSHIP.

AND THAT POSSIBLE MODEL WOULD ALSO BE THE THING THAT WOULD WORK FOR HARRY'S AREA IN CONGRESS AND OR IN BLACK CANYON CITY. YOU KNOW, IT MAKES A LOT MORE SENSE IF WE HAVE SOME KIND OF A MODEL OF WHAT WE'RE GOING TO PROVIDE AND MAKE THE FACILITY FIT THE MODEL? YES I AGREE.

AND I THINK YOU COULD TWEAK IT A LITTLE BIT FOR EACH JURISDICTION ON THE NEEDS.

RIGHT. BUT WE PRIORITIZE THAT.

AND THEN WHEN WE TALK ABOUT RENOVATION PROJECT EARLY, WE NEED TO PUT THAT ON OUR PRIORITY LIST.

NUMBER ONE, TO GET ACCOMPLISHED BECAUSE THAT'S GONE ON LONG ENOUGH.

AND THEN WE START LOOKING AT UNINCORPORATED AREAS, IDENTIFYING WHAT RESOURCES WE WANT TO PUT OUT THERE.

AND THEN IF YOU LOOK AT YOUR PLAN, YOU'RE TALKING 26.

WE STILL HAVE TIME TO WORK ON OKAY, WHERE DO WE STRATEGICALLY WANT TO GO AS A BOARD TO PUT ADDITIONAL RESOURCES WITHIN THE COMMUNITY? AND I DON'T, IN MY OPINION, IS WE NEED TO GO WHERE THE POPULATION IS.

AND THAT JUST MAKES SENSE TO ME.

AND IT MIGHT NOT BE THE GENERAL POPULATION OF NOT JUST THE MUNICIPALITIES, BUT THE AREA WHERE THE GROWTH IS HAPPENING SO AND HOW OUR SERVICES ARE BEING PROVIDED. THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT RUNS IT BY ZIP CODES, AND THEY CAN IDENTIFY WHERE OUR NEEDS ARE IN THOSE AREAS.

AND THEN WITH VOTING, WE NEED TO GO TO THE CENTRAL OF OUR POPULATION WITH ELECTIONS, BECAUSE THAT'S WHERE THEY'RE GOING TO COME TO REGISTER TO VOTE.

AND IF WE'RE TALKING IN THE NEXT 15, 20 YEARS OUT, WE NEED TO GO WHERE OUR GROWTH IS GOING TO BE AND WHERE WE CAN BEST SERVE OUR CONSTITUENTS.

AND I KNOW THIS CONSULTANT TOOK A LOT OF INFORMATION FROM A LOT OF STUFF INTERNALLY.

I WOULD LIKE TO SEE A LOT MORE EXTERNALLY TALKING TO THE PUBLIC, THE CONSTITUENTS, ABOUT WHAT THEY WANT TO SEE, TOO.

I DIDN'T SEE THAT IN THERE, BUT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THAT BECAUSE I THINK IT MIGHT HAVE STEERED IT A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENTLY THAN JUST, HEY, WE GOT THIS AREA AVAILABLE TO BUILD OUT. SO THAT'S MY THOUGHTS.

WELL, I WOULD CONCUR ACTUALLY.

AND I KNOW I'M A LAME DUCK AND I SHOULD SIT HERE AND BE QUIET, BUT I DON'T QUACK.

SO I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO PHASE THIS TO BE MEASURED.

AND THIS THIS MODEL THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT RIGHT NOW DOES THAT.

IT MEETS THE MOST IMMEDIATE NEEDS THAT ALLOWS US TO GO AHEAD AND REHAB FACILITIES THAT HAVE BEEN LONG OVERDUE, AS WELL AS LOOK AT WHAT IS THE MODEL FOR THOSE AREAS WHERE WE SEE THE GROWTH RATE IS GOING TO GO TO, OR WHERE THE NEED FOR SERVICES IS THE GREATEST? IT'S A GAME PLAN.

AND THE OTHER PART IS, IS THAT ON THE NORTH SIDE OF 89A, THAT'S SUPERVISOR BROWN OUT THERE, THAT WHOLE AREA OF PAQUITO VALLEY, ALL OF THAT AREA, IT'S NOT SOME OF IT MIGHT BE IN PRESCOTT VALLEY, BUT IT'S HIS DISTRICT.

AND THAT PLACE IS EXPLODING WITH HOUSES.

I MEAN ABSOLUTELY.

SO AGAIN, EVEN THOUGH IT DOESN'T SHOW THAT ON HERE, THAT AREA JUST NORTH OF 89 A IS UNBELIEVABLE.

GO OUT THERE AT NIGHT, YOU WILL SEE NOTHING BUT HOUSE LIGHTS.

TRUE, TRUE.

BUT IT'S GOING TO BE ALL SOLAR FIELDS.

THAT DOESN'T MATTER, RIGHT? I'M ADVOCATING THE THOUGHT, AND I THINK WE NEED TO, WE REALLY NEED TO BASE OUR DECISIONS OFF WHERE THE GROWTH IS GOING TO BE AT WITH THE POPULATION GROWTH IN THOSE AREAS.

IF WE'RE GOING TO BE STRATEGIC WITH THE BOARD, WE NEED TO LOOK AT, WE'RE BUILDING OUT NEXT 20, 25 YEARS.

WE NEED TO BUILD OUT WHERE OUR POPULATION IS GOING TO BE AND OUR SERVICES ARE BEST PROVIDED FOR OUR CONSTITUENTS.

WELL, AND THAT MIGHT BE SOMETHING THAT, YOU KNOW, WE MIGHT CONSIDER IS, IS THAT WE DO HAVE PROPERTY OUT THERE LOCATED AT THE OLD RACETRACK AREA.

AND WE STILL AND WE HAVE THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENTS OUT THERE, THEIR EVIDENCE ROOM, ALONG WITH THE CORONER'S OFFICE, AND WE HAVE A LOT RIGHT NEXT DOOR.

MAYBE THAT'S WHERE WE NEED TO PUT SOMETHING ELSE.

I DON'T KNOW, MAYBE I DON'T KNOW ABOUT A LIBRARY OR MAYBE THE BUILDING WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THAT ACCOMMODATES MORE THAN ONE THING.

SO ISN'T THERE A PAT OUT THERE ALREADY? ALREADY READY TO GO.

NOT A PAD. THERE IS A FLAT AREA.

I THINK THERE'S A COUPLE OF STUBS.

IT'S RIPE FOR DEVELOPMENT.

YEAH, I THINK IT'S ABOUT AN ACRE AND A HALF THAT WE HAVE OUT THERE, RIGHT ADJACENT TO THE MORGUE AREA.

AND THEN WE ALSO HAVE THAT AREA AT CIVIC AND OR SCOOT DRIVE AND.

YES, LAKESHORE CIVIC CENTER.

CIVIC CIRCLE AND SCOOT DRIVE.

WHICH? CIVIC? SCOOT. SCOOT.

YEAH. SO, IT CHANGED NAMES, BUT RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET FROM THE POLICE DEPARTMENT LIBRARY AND THAT GOVERNMENT COMPLEX THERE.

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WE DO HAVE FOUR ACRES OUT THERE, TOO.

FOUR ACRES OF VACANT LAND THERE.

YEAH. YES. AND THAT'S PRIME RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE OF THE MUNICIPALITY.

BUT MAYBE WE DO LOOK AT OTHER LOCATIONS.

WELL, IT'S KIND OF FUNNY BECAUSE MARY BROUGHT UP THAT AREA OUT THERE NORTH OF 89 A THAT IS ACTUALLY SOME OF IT IS PRESCOTT VALLEY.

THEY ARE ANNEXED, BUT THE ONE TO THE SOUTH THAT WE'RE WEST OF THEM, I GUESS THAT IS IT'S NOT RIGHT.

SO YOU GOT A LITTLE PATCH OF DIFFERENT THINGS HERE GOING ON.

I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE CITY IS PLANNING ON DOING, BUT RIGHT ACROSS THE, THE 89 A THAT'S WHERE YOU GUYS VOTED PUT IN THE SOLAR FIELD WITH FEIN.

MR. CHAIRMAN WOULD YOU LIKE TO 1212 NOW, WOULD YOU LIKE TO BREAK FOR LUNCH AND COME BACK AND WE'LL CONTINUE THIS CONVERSATION? GOOD CONVERSATION.

YEAH, IT'S AN INTERESTING ONE BECAUSE THERE ARE SO MANY PERSPECTIVES WE'RE GOING TO BREAK FOR LUNCH, FOLKS.

LADIES AND GENTLEMEN.

WE'RE CALLING BACK OUR MEETING TO ORDER.

AND WE'VE GOT A COUPLE PEOPLE THAT ARE COMING TO THEIR SEATS.

IT'S 1250 AND IT IS OCTOBER 2ND.

GO AHEAD, MR. THOMPSON. OKAY.

THANK YOU, CHAIRMAN.

I, OF COURSE, WAS MAKING SOME NOTES DURING OUR EARLIER CONVERSATION.

AND LET ME DO MY BEST TO REITERATE WHAT I BELIEVE I HEARD THIS MORNING.

AND MAYBE START BY AS I WALK THROUGH THIS, GET SOME INDICATION WHETHER I'VE CAPTURED THIS CORRECTLY.

BUT THE FIRST THING THAT STAFF HAS PROPOSED IN TERMS OF A PLAN IS REFOCUSING OUR EFFORTS ON THE GURLEY STREET BUILDING.

ABSOLUTELY. OKAY.

GET THAT FINISHED. GOT IT.

SECOND, I'VE HEARD INTEREST IN WHAT I'VE REFERRED TO AS THE SMOKE MODEL OR THOSE COMMUNITY CENTERS, WHATEVER WE WANT TO CALL THEM THROUGHOUT THE MORE UNINCORPORATED AREAS OF THE COUNTY, WHICH IS ALSO CONSISTENT WITH ONE OF THE WITH ONE OF THE PRIORITIES THAT STAFF HAS SUGGESTED.

WE PROBABLY NEED A LITTLE ADDITIONAL STUDY IF WE'RE GOING TO INCLUDE OUR LIBRARY DISTRICT AND THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE AND THEN OTHER ANCILLARY COUNTY SERVICES INTO WHAT THAT NEEDS TO LOOK LIKE.

WHAT SORT OF SQUARE FOOTAGE DO WE NEED THAT NEEDS TO BE FOR EACH OF THEM, AND WHERE THOSE NEED TO BE, AND GETTING SOME, YES, INFORMATION ON THAT.

I THINK THAT WOULD BE A GOOD DIRECTION.

AND THEN THAT WAY I MEAN, HARRY'S GOT HIS PROJECT, BUT I THINK HAVING A MODEL FOR EACH DIFFERENT COMMUNITY THAT WE CAN GO OFF AND THEN OF COURSE WE'LL NEED TO TWEAK IT, BUT JUST HAVE A GENERAL FOOTPRINT OF WHAT WE WANT TO DO IN OUR UNINCORPORATED AREAS.

I AGREE AND WELL STATED WHEN I SAY I'D LIKE TO SEE A TEMPLATE THAT WE COULD REPLICATE, KNOWING THAT FOR EVERY COMMUNITY THERE MAY BE SOME SLIGHT DIFFERENCES.

SO YOU NEED TO MAKE SOME MINOR, HOPEFULLY, ADJUSTMENTS.

BUT YOU ALREADY KNOW WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE.

AND THERE MIGHT BE SOME MINOR ADJUSTMENTS ON A MODEL LIKE THAT THAT YOU CAN SAY, AND I'M GOING TO USE THIS ONLY AS AN EXAMPLE.

SAY YOU DON'T NEED A LIBRARY.

SO YOU TAKE THAT SPACE AND IT BECOMES SOMETHING ELSE, LIKE A CLINIC OR A COURTROOM, JUST, YOU KNOW, OFF TOP OF YOUR HEAD. YEAH. AND THANK YOU FOR THAT, CHAIRMAN.

WE KEEP OUR I KEEP REFERRING TO ANYWAY AS LIBRARIES AND SHERIFF'S SUBSTATIONS.

BUT I THINK OUR JUSTICE COURTS ALSO NEED TO BE CONSIDERED AS PART OF THAT.

THOSE SERVICES THAT WE LOOK AT IN THAT MODEL AS WELL.

ABSOLUTELY. MAKE A NOTE OF THAT.

SO TO BE CLEAR, I'M SENSING SOME DIRECTION AND HEADING THAT WAY.

BUT THAT WILL REQUIRE A LITTLE MORE STUDY CONSULTANT, I.E.

SOME COST TO GET US THERE.

SO I'M SEEING SOME NODS, SO WE'LL WORK ON THAT DIRECTION.

AND OF COURSE, THAT WOULD COME BACK TO THE BODY FOR APPROVAL BEFORE PROCEEDING.

YOU KNOW, I THINK, THOUGH, BEFORE WE GO OUT TO ANY KIND OF A CONTRACT FOR SOMEBODY, AN ARCHITECT OR WHATEVER WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, MAYBE WE NEED TO SIT DOWN AND GET A LIST OF ALL THE THINGS THAT WE THINK WE MIGHT NEED.

AGREE, YOU KNOW, AND MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE ROOM FOR EXPANSION IF NECESSARY.

THANK YOU. PARKING LOT ACCESS FOR ADA.

THINGS LIKE THOSE ARE GOING TO BE VERY IMPORTANT.

I AGREE. REMEMBER IF YOU HAVE A SECOND FLOOR YOU JUST ADDED A BIG PROBLEM.

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SO AND YOU KNOW THAT'S A GOOD POINT.

GREG. AND I THINK THAT IF WE'RE LOOKING AT HEALTH CLINIC, YOU'RE LOOKING AT CSL SUBSTATION, LIBRARY AND A COMMUNITY ROOM, I THINK THAT'S THE BASIC THINGS WE NEED TO GET WITHIN THE COMMUNITY.

I THINK THAT PRETTY MUCH COVERS IT.

LET ME GO AHEAD AND ADD ONE THING ABOUT THIS.

I REMEMBER DOWN IN WICKENBURG, WE'VE GOT THE WICKENBURG OR DOWN IN CONGRESS, WE'VE GOT THE WICKENBURG HOSPITAL WANTS TO COME IN AND PROVIDE A CLINIC.

THEY'RE ALREADY THERE.

BUT WHAT THEY WANT TO DO IS THEY WANT TO EXPAND THE BUILDING TO HAVE X RAY LAB, MENTAL HEALTH AND A MUCH LARGER PHARMACY.

SO WE'VE BUILT THIS THING WITH 6000FT².

WE'VE ALREADY TALKED TO THE COMMUNITY.

WE'VE TALKED TO YCSO AND THE LIBRARY DISTRICT, AND THESE NUMBERS ARE PRETTY CONSISTENT ON WHAT THEY THINK THEY NEED.

NOW, A LOT OF PLACES AREN'T GOING TO HAVE A CLINIC BECAUSE THEY AREN'T GOING TO BE ABLE TO GET A HOSPITAL COME IN.

SO WHAT WE COULD DO TALKING TO WICKENBURG, HE SAYS, IF YOU HAVE JUST A LITTLE PRIMARY CARE AREA THAT REQUIRES TWO TREATMENT ROOMS, A WAITING ROOM AND AN ADA BATHROOM, SO IT'S ONLY A VERY SMALL AMOUNT OF SPACE HERE, AND THEN COUNTY OR COMMUNITY HEALTH COULD BE GOING UP TO ONCE A WEEK AND SETTING UP CLINICS AND HAVE THE SPACE NEEDED TO OPERATE OUT OF.

WHICH IS ONE REASON WHY I'M NOT SURE WE NEED THE VEHICLES, BUT, YOU KNOW, IT COULD BE PLACES THAT YOU WOULD GO WITH THE VEHICLES WHERE YOU WOULDN'T HAVE THIS KIND OF CAPABILITY. SO, YOU KNOW, WE LOOK AT THIS, DON'T LOOK AT THE 6000FT² OVER HERE FOR, FOR EVERYBODY BECAUSE YOU'RE NOT GOING TO HAVE A CLINIC. NOW, I WILL TELL YOU THAT HONOR HEALTH IS VERY MUCH INTERESTED IN COMING UP HERE AND GETTING INVOLVED IN, IN THIS AREA, YOU KNOW, AND THEY'RE LOOKING AT TRYING TO OPERATE MORE IN THE RURAL AREAS.

SO IF THAT STARTS TO DEVELOP, YOU KNOW, YOU MIGHT BE ABLE TO GET HONOR HEALTH TO COME UP AND PROVIDE CLINICS IN SOME OF THE RURAL AREAS.

BUT RIGHT NOW, IF YOU HAVE JUST THIS MINIMAL PRIMARY CARE AREA UP IN PEOPLE'S VALLEY, WE'RE LOOKING AT DOING A SMALL BUILDING THERE. AND WICKENBURG SAID, IF YOU HAVE THIS WHEEL, COME ON UP AND DO CLINICS IN PEEPLES VALLEY AND TAKE A DOCTOR AND A NURSE AND GO ON UP THERE AND, AND I DON'T KNOW WHETHER IT BE EVERY DAY OR MAYBE EVERY OTHER DAY OR TWICE A WEEK OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT AND PROVIDE A PROVIDE CLINIC.

SO I WOULD JUST LIKE TO OFFER THIS AS A, AS A THOUGHT.

AND THAT'S THE REASON WHY I DECIDED TO HAVE IT BROUGHT OUT HERE.

SO YOU TAKE A LOOK AT IT.

YEAH. WELL, IN THIS KIND OF A DESIGN, EVEN THOUGH IT'S PROBABLY ROUGH, YOU KNOW, WHAT WE WOULD DO IS, IS WE SAY, OKAY, WE DON'T NEED A CLINIC OR, YOU KNOW, AND ALL OF A SUDDEN THAT BECOMES A COURTROOM AND BATHROOMS AND WORKS WITH, YOU KNOW, THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT'S ALREADY THERE.

OR MAYBE WE DON'T NEED THE SHERIFF THERE.

MAYBE HE DOESN'T REALLY NEED TO BE THERE BECAUSE IN ASH FORK, THEY DON'T USE THAT OFFICE AT ALL.

I MEAN, IT'S THERE, BUT IT'S FALLING APART.

YEAH. NO, I APPRECIATE SUPERVISOR OBERG FOR BRINGING THAT UP, BECAUSE I THINK THAT'S ANOTHER FACTOR WE NEED TO LOOK AT IN ANY OF THESE MODELS OR LOCATIONS.

IS ARE THERE OPPORTUNITIES FOR COMMUNITY PARTNERSHIPS THERE WHICH MAY SUGGEST YOU'VE GOT A LITTLE DIFFERENT CONSTRUCTION IN THAT PARTICULAR AREA, BUT, YOU KNOW, TALKING WITH WHOEVER WE WORK WITH TO COME UP WITH THIS MODEL, MAYBE WE'RE REALLY BEGINNING TO LOOK AT SOMETHING THAT'S ALMOST A MODULAR CONCEPT, THAT EACH OF THOSE COMPONENTS HAVE THEIR SQUARE FOOTAGE, AND THEN YOU BUILD THE PARTICULAR BUILDING BASED ON WHICH EACH OF THOSE COMPONENTS.

YEAH. YOU'RE PUTTING IN THE LOCATION AND BUILDING MORE LINEAR IN THAT SENSE.

YEAH. YEAH. AND WE'RE TALKING AND I KNOW LIKE CURTIS JUNCTION, WE HAVE PROPERTY THERE.

THE FIRE DEPARTMENTS ASKED, HEY, WHAT ABOUT CONSOLIDATING RESOURCES WITH THE NEW FIRE BUILDING AND A SUBSTATION? BUT OF COURSE, WE NEED TO GET WITH YCSO AND FIND OUT.

THEY HAVE TRAILERS THERE IN THE SCHOOLHOUSES.

I MEAN, THERE'S THEY'RE SPREAD ALL OVER THE PLACE.

AND WITH IMPROVING THOSE FACILITIES, WE ALSO NEED TO THINK ABOUT RESPONSE TIMES TO WHERE WE GET INPUT FROM YCSO ABOUT WHERE THEY NEED TO PLUG IN THOSE FACILITIES.

SO, I THINK IT'S IT'LL TAKE EVERY STAKEHOLDER IS GOING TO BE INVOLVED WITH COREY, WITH THE LIBRARY THE SHERIFF, WITH THE CSO, AND THEN OF COURSE, LESLIE WITH THE HEALTH CLINIC.

BUT I THINK THERE'S GOOD OPPORTUNITIES HERE.

OKAY. AND SO THEN NEXT, EXCUSE ME.

WE'VE GOT SOME IMMEDIATE NEEDS THAT WE NEED TO FIGURE OUT HOW WE'RE GOING TO ADDRESS.

ONE OF THOSE IS THIS BUILDING.

AND ONE OF THOSE PRINCIPALLY IS THE THIRD FLOOR WHERE WE ARE ALL LOCATED.

SO, YOU KNOW, WE ARE OUT OF SPACE AND WE'VE STARTED TAKING OVER CONFERENCE ROOMS. WE'VE GOT ONE CONFERENCE ROOM, AND I'VE GOT THREE STAFF SHARING ONE ROOM BECAUSE WE ARE LITERALLY OUT OF SPACE.

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SO I THINK WE'VE GOT SOME OF THESE AREAS WITHIN THE COUNTY.

I DON'T THINK A LOT, BUT SOME THAT WE MAY NEED TO FIGURE OUT HOW WE'RE GOING TO ADDRESS SOONER RATHER THAN LATER.

WHICH LEADS ME TO MY FINAL POINT BACK TO THIS CONVERSATION ABOUT WHAT'S THE RIGHT MODEL TO BUILD, WHERE ALL THE PEOPLE ARE CONGREGATED, OR DO YOU GO TO THE UNINCORPORATED AND AGAIN, TRYING TO FIND THE BALANCE? SO LET'S TALK ABOUT PRESCOTT VALLEY.

THERE WAS REFERENCED EARLIER TO THE PROPERTY WE ALREADY OWN.

WE'RE ALREADY IN THE MIDDLE OF THEIR CIVIC CAMPUS THERE.

I DON'T THINK IT'S ANY SURPRISE TO ANYONE THAT THE TOWN HAS SOME INTEREST IN THAT PIECE OF GROUND.

THEY ALSO OWN ANOTHER PROPERTY IN PRESCOTT VALLEY.

DEVELOPED PIECE WITH A LARGE OFFICE COMPLEX ON IT.

NOW THAT THEY HAVE CONTROL OVER HAS SOME LONG TERM LEASES THAT THEY'VE GOT SOME INTEREST IN IN GETTING OUT FROM UNDER THAT PIECE OF PROPERTY.

SO I WOULD LIKE YOU ALL TO CONSIDER GIVING, IF THAT'S SOMETHING YOU'D LIKE TO TALK ABOUT, GIVING STAFF SOME DIRECTION TO BEGIN PRELIMINARY CONVERSATIONS WITH THE TOWN ABOUT THE POTENTIAL OF LOOKING THAT, YES, PERHAPS SOME SORT OF EXCHANGE.

PART OF THE REASON WHY I LIKE THIS TOWN PROPERTY IS, AGAIN, IT'S A LARGE OFFICE COMPLEX THAT HAS SOME LONG TERM LEASES IN IT.

MY THOUGHT IS WE WOULD ASSUME THOSE LEASES.

SO IT ALMOST BUYS US FUTURE GROWTH SPACE.

THERE WOULD BE SOME SPACE THAT WE COULD TAKE OVER NOW, YOU KNOW, TO ADDRESS SOME OF OUR IMMEDIATE NEEDS, PERHAPS.

AND I WOULD ALSO COUPLE THAT WITH ONE OF THE RECOMMENDATIONS ON HERE IS THAT WE NEED A NEW LOCATION FOR THE PRESCOTT VALLEY ADULT PROBATION.

WE SAY PRESCOTT VALLEY.

SO, I'M REFERRED TO AS DEWEY DOWN THERE, THE OLD STORAGE LOCATION THAT WE NEED TO GET OUT, THEY WOULD LIKE TO BE FURTHER INTO THEIR POPULATION CENTER, WHICH IS PRESCOTT VALLEY. SO MY THOUGHT IS COULD THAT SOLVE THAT ISSUE FOR US AS WELL? BUT AGAIN, WE NEED TO DO SOME DUE DILIGENCE AND CONVERSATION WITH THE TOWN TO BEGIN TO SEE WHETHER THAT MAKES SENSE.

BEFORE WE'D HAVE SOMETHING TO BRING BACK TO YOU.

I THINK WE NEED MAYBE WE TAKE A PERIOD OF TIME AND SAY, OKAY, LET'S ALL GO OVER THERE AND TAKE A LOOK AT IT.

ABSOLUTELY. YEAH.

AND I THINK AND I'VE BEEN OVER THERE.

YEAH. AND I'VE BEEN OVER THERE AND IT'S VERY, IT'S A, THERE'S THE STATES IN THERE RIGHT NOW WITH [INAUDIBLE] AND US VETS ARE THERE.

YEAH. THAT'S ANOTHER REASON I LIKE IT.

ALL OF THOSE LONG. ALL THE LONG.

YEAH. ALL OF THE LONG TERM TENANTS IN THERE ARE RELATED GOVERNMENTAL FUNCTIONS.

AND YAVAPAI STATION 53 IS AT AND THEN AND I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'VE BEEN DOWN TO ADULT PROBATION, OFF DUTY.

THAT FACILITY DOWN THERE IS I MEAN, WE'VE BEEN TRYING TO GET RID OF IT FOR A LONG TIME.

AND THERE'S BEEN SOME NO JACK SMITH YEAH.

HOW MUCH SPACE ARE WE TALKING ABOUT IN THIS OTHER FACILITY? I DON'T REMEMBER THE TOTAL SQUARE FOOTAGE.

IT'S SIGNIFICANT.

AND WE ALREADY HAVE 2 OR 3 LONG TERM TENANTS IN IT, SO IT'S A MONEYMAKER.

SO I'M TALKING ABOUT AS FAR AS DOLLARS, I DON'T KNOW.

WE'VE NOT, STAFF'S NOT GOT THAT FAR IN CONVERSATIONS.

I MEAN WE WANT DIRECTION FROM YOU ALL BEFORE WE ENTERED INTO ANY SUBSTANTIVE CONVERSATION.

WE NEED TO GET AN APPRAISAL.

THEN EVENTUALLY, ANYWAY, IF WE LOOK AT IT AND SEE, IT MIGHT WORK.

YEAH, I THINK IT'S WORTH VENTURING AND LOOKING INTO IT.

I THINK GIVING DIRECTION TO DO THAT.

I WOULD AGREE. OKAY.

IT'S A PERFECT EXAMPLE. I'LL HAVE TO GO LOOK AT WHAT WE SHOULD BE DOING.

YES, WE WOULD SELL OFF THAT LITTLE.

THAT'D BE MY THOUGHT ON DOING IT.

YES. GOOD. THAT'D BE GREAT.

THEY'RE VERY INTERESTED IN THAT.

FOUR AND A HALF ACRES ACROSS FROM THE LIBRARY, BECAUSE IT'S IN THEIR CIVIC CENTER RIGHT NOW.

WHERE? THE POLICE STATION, LIBRARY AND ALSO YOUR TOWN CENTER.

THAT'S JUST PERFECT. SO, THEY'RE EAGER TO GET THAT.

SO AND IT'S A VERY PRIME PIECE OF PROPERTY.

SO, THERE'LL PROBABLY BE A LOT OF ROOM FOR NEGOTIATIONS THERE.

THEY EVEN LIKE IT MORE SO BECAUSE WHEN WE GIVE THEM, SELL THEM PROPERTY, THEY DON'T HAVE TO PAY US BECAUSE WE DON'T KNOW WHAT THE CHECKS FOR.

WE FIGURED THAT ONE OUT.

IT'S A LONG STORY.

IT'S KIND OF FUNNY.

SO, THANK GOODNESS WE HAD THE HISTORIAN HERE TO TELL US.

BUT I AGREE WITH YOU, MARIA.

I THINK WE NEED TO TAKE A LOOK AT THE EXPANSION OF OUR WORKFORCE.

AND, YOU KNOW, WHEN I CAME INTO THIS POSITION, WE HAD, I THINK, 1740 PEOPLE, AND RIGHT NOW WE'RE OVER 1900.

AND TALKING TO A NUMBER OF THE DIRECTORS, THEY'RE INDICATING IN THIS NEXT BUDGET YEAR, THEY SEE PROBABLY COMING IN WITH SOME ADDITIONAL REQUESTS FOR NEW HIRES. SO WE'RE STARTING TO GROW, AND THAT'S PROBABLY DUE TO POPULATION AND EVERYTHING ELSE.

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AND SO I THINK, YOU KNOW, DOING THAT, BUILDING OUT THEIR COMMERCE MAKES SENSE.

WE JUST TO ME THAT'S ONE THING THAT WE HAVE TO GET GOING BECAUSE THAT'S WHERE WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO GET THE SPACE WE NEED BOTH IN THIS BUILDING AND EVEN OVER THERE.

MAYBE THAT WOULD EVEN GET US OUT OF TRIPLE C, YOU KNOW? SO I GUESS TO BE CLEAR WHAT I'M SUGGESTING, IF I HEARD SOME RESISTANCE TO THE IDEA OF BUILDING OUT ON COMMERCE THE LOCATION, THE PROPERTY IN PRESCOTT VALLEY COULD BE AN ALTERNATIVE TO THAT BUILDING.

YES. OKAY.

WELL, DO YOU REALLY WANT TO MOVE? WHAT? YOU WERE PLANNING ON PUTTING IN THE BUILDING IN COMMERCE? DO YOU WANT TO TAKE IT THAT FAR AWAY FROM OR DO YOU WANT TO? ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT MOVING TO ADMINISTRATION ALSO.

WELL, THE IDEA, AS YOU KNOW, WITH COMMERCE WAS TO MOVE THE RECORDER ELECTIONS AND IT OUT THERE.

SO THAT WOULD BE ANOTHER DISCUSSION POINT FOR THE BOARD, WHICH REALLY TAKES US BACK TO WHERE WE STARTED.

THAT'S ALMOST LIKE A TECHNICAL CENTER THERE THEN.

AND ADMINISTRATION OFFICES ARE ENTIRELY DIFFERENT.

SO I AGREE. SO I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT FOR US TO LOOK AT IT.

IF WE'RE LOOKING AT 20 TO 25 YEARS OUT WITH THE OFFICE SPACE AVAILABLE.

LONG TERM LEASES.

THERE IS OPPORTUNITY TO LOOK TO SEE HOW THEY CAN MAKE THAT WORK.

AND I THINK IT'S WORTH LOOKING INTO VERSUS BUILDING A WHOLE NEW FACILITY IF WE DON'T HAVE TO.

SO I AGREE.

YEAH. IF WE COULD REPURPOSE OR MAKE AN EXCHANGE LIKE THAT, THAT'S JUST SO EFFICIENT.

OKAY, LET ME WALK THROUGH THIS ONE MORE TIME.

AND STAFF, PLEASE JUMP IN HERE AND ADD TO IT.

OR PICK UP WHAT I'M MISSING OR OTHER THINGS YOU'D LIKE TO.

DISCUSS, BUT ONE. WE WILL REFOCUS OUR EFFORTS ON THE GURLEY STREET BUILDING.

TWO WE WILL BEGIN CONVERSATIONS ABOUT ENGAGING SOMEONE TO DO AN ADDITIONAL STUDY ON OUR PLAN FOR LIBRARIES, SHERIFF'S SUBSTATION, JUSTICE COURTS, OTHER COUNTY SERVICES, WHAT THAT MODEL SHOULD LOOK LIKE, INCLUDING WHERE THOSE MAKE SENSE TO BE PLACED STRATEGICALLY, HOW MANY ALL OF THOSE DISCUSSIONS.

AND THEN STAFF WILL BEGIN PRELIMINARY CONVERSATIONS WITH THE TOWN OF PRESCOTT VALLEY ABOUT PROPERTY THAT WE MAY HAVE AN INTEREST IN TALKING ABOUT SOME VERSION OF AN EXCHANGE. AND THEN FINALLY, AFTER WE DO THAT, THAT WILL PROBABLY LEAD US INTO A FOLLOW UP CONVERSATION WITH THE BOARD ABOUT DOES THAT THEN MAKE SENSE? OR DO WE LOOK AT THE NEW BUILDING ON COMMERCE ONCE WE HAVE MORE INFORMATION TO MAKE THAT DECISION? AND EITHER ONE OF THOSE THEN GIVES US THE BREATHING ROOM TO ADDRESS OUR IMMEDIATE SPACE NEEDS.

ABSOLUTELY. RIGHT.

YES. ANYTHING ELSE? OKAY. WE'RE DONE. SUPERVISOR MALLORY SAYS WE'RE DONE.

ALL RIGHT. WE MAY BE.

UNLESS THERE'S MORE DISCUSSION.

WELL, YOU KNOW, THAT BRINGS UP A QUESTION.

YOU KNOW, ALL THE SHERIFF'S VEHICLES ARE OUT THERE AT COMMERCE NOW.

AND THE OTHER COMMERCE CIRCLE.

YEAH. CIRCLE.

SO. SHERIFF'S HEADQUARTERS WHERE IT'S AT.

IT'S GOT TO BE CENTRALLY LOCATED WHERE IT'S AT.

BUT BACK TO THAT TRADITIONAL.

YEAH. BACK TO THAT. CHAIRMAN.

REMEMBER? COMMERCE CIRCLE.

WE ALSO HAVE ELECTIONS.

SO IF ONE OF THESE SCENARIOS HAPPENS, YOU GET ELECTIONS MOVED.

SO, YOU'VE GOT A LITTLE MORE BREATHING ROOM OVER COMMERCE CIRCLE.

RIGHT. ONE OF THE THINGS WE HAD CONSIDERED AT COMMERCE CENTER CIRCLE WAS THAT IF WE COULD FIND A NEW HOME FOR PANT, AND WE COULD MOVE ELECTIONS OUT. THAT WOULD GIVE US PLENTY OF SPACE FOR SIMPLE TO EXPAND.

SIMPLE HAS BEEN LOOKING FOR SOME ADDITIONAL SPACE.

AS YOU KNOW, THEY'VE ACTUALLY RENTED SPACE IN OTHER LOCATIONS, SO THEY'VE GOT THEIR STAFF SCATTERED OUT A LITTLE BIT BECAUSE OF LACK OF SPACE FOR A TRANSIT HUB THAT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH ADMINISTRATION.

AND THEN ALSO LIBRARY. LIBRARY.

LIBRARY HAS BEEN ASKING FOR ADDITIONAL SPACE AS WELL.

AND I THINK IF WE COULD VACATE SPACE FROM THOSE TWO DEPARTMENTS AGAIN, ALWAYS THAT DOMINO EFFECT I'M LOOKING FOR.

IT WOULD ALLOW US TO RETAIN THAT BUILDING, WHICH LIBRARIES ACTUALLY HAPPY WITH THAT LOCATION.

THE ONLY ISSUE THEY SEEM TO HAVE THERE IS PARKING, BECAUSE WE HAVE TOO MANY DIFFERENT DEPARTMENTS THERE.

WELL, WE ALSO HAVE TENANTS.

YES. SO JUST A QUESTION.

SO THE PRESCOTT VALLEY CONVERSATION IS REALLY BETWEEN THAT BUILDING THAT THEY WOULD HAVE, ALONG WITH OUR FOUR AND A HALF ACRES OUT THERE. RIGHT.

CORRECT. THAT, TO ME, SEEMS LIKE THAT'S KIND OF A WASH IN THAT IT'S LIKE THIS GOES WITH THAT.

I MEAN, IF IT WORKS, IF IT WORKS OUT, I MEAN, I'M JUST KIND OF PUTTING THAT OUT.

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I'LL JUST SAY HERE PUBLICLY, I THINK OURS IS WORTH A WHOLE LOT MORE.

OKAY. WELL, I'M NOT.

THAT'S WHAT I WAS THINKING.

I AGREE. WELL, YOU ARE THE SELLER, SO I GET IT.

SO ANYWAY, WITH THAT BEING SAID, WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT COMMERCE, THAT'S BEEN PART OF A PLAN.

THE PRESCOTT VALLEY AND THE FOUR AND A HALF ACRES IS SOMETHING.

IF YOU GET THE GOOD PRICE FOR YOUR PROPERTY, SIR WOULD MOVE COULD MOVE RATHER QUICKLY.

YOU NEVER KNOW.

IT'S KIND OF LIKE THE SITUATION ON REMODELING WITH THE ELECTIONS.

IT WAS NEVER A FIX.

IT WAS JUST BASICALLY THE BAND-AID UNTIL WE BASICALLY GET THROUGH ALL THESE OTHER ISSUES.

SO I'M NOT SAYING COMMERCE IS TOTALLY OUT OF THE PICTURE, I MEAN.

I DON'T SEE IT OUT OF THE PICTURE.

I STILL SEE IT IN THE PICTURE.

I JUST SEE THESE AS TWO SEPARATE THINGS WHERE WE'RE GOT THIS AREA THAT'S TOTALLY GROWING RAPIDLY, AND PART OF IT IS PRESCOTT, AND PART OF IT IS DISTRICT FOUR.

AND YOU JUMP UP 89A, YOU'RE OVER IN DISTRICT THREE AND ACROSS THE STREET WHERE YOU'RE GOING TO PLANT ALL YOUR SOLAR PANELS.

THAT'S DISTRICT TWO.

SO YOU'RE STILL SERVICING A LARGE AMOUNT OF THE COUNTY'S, YOU KNOW, AND I DON'T KNOW, BUT I DON'T KNOW IF RIGHT BEHIND JASPER'S IF THAT'S YOU OR IF THAT'S HARRY IN THOSE THAT NEW DEVELOPMENT ON THE PRESCOTT ADDRESS.

BUT, YOU KNOW, I BELIEVE IT'S ACTUALLY HARRY.

OKAY, WELL, THEN YOU GOT DISTRICT ONE.

POSITIVE. YOU HAVE TO GO UP AND ASK ELECTIONS.

THEY'VE GOT THE MAPS AND THE ROADS, BUT I THINK IT'S ACTUALLY IN ONE BECAUSE IT GOES RIGHT INTO THE DELLS.

THE DELLS. I THOUGHT MAYBE IT WAS YOURS.

THE DELL'S MINE, THE DELL'S MINE.

AND THIS ADDRESS IN PRESCOTT IS MINE.

BUT THEN IT MOVES OVER.

EVEN THOUGH IT HAS A PRESCOTT ADDRESS, IT'S STILL THE CITY OF PRESCOTT.

BUT THEN YOU GET A LITTLE FURTHER, AND YOU'RE IN YOUR DISTRICT BECAUSE YOU'RE OVER BY WALDEN'S FARMS RIGHT OFF OF THE.

YEAH. YOU KNOW, THAT WHOLE LITTLE ZIGS AND ZAGS RIGHT ALONG 89.

SO WHAT I'M TRYING TO SAY IS, IS THAT COMMERCE, I BELIEVE, IS STILL VERY MUCH IN THE VISION.

AND I BELIEVE THIS CONVERSATION WITH PRESCOTT VALLEY, ALONG WITH OUR FOUR AND A HALF ACRES AND THIS REALLY NICE GOVERNMENT BUILDING, WHICH IS REALLY, REALLY NICE.

PLUS, IT HAS SOME INCOME TO IT, I GUESS HOW WE DO THAT, I SEE IT ALL COMING TOGETHER EVENTUALLY.

WE'RE TALKING 20 YEARS.

THIS IS A VISION FOR THE FUTURE.

SO I WOULDN'T SAY WE GOT TO PICK AND CHOOSE BETWEEN ONE OR THE OTHER.

I SAY THAT A GOOD REALTOR WOULD TELL YOU TO KEEP EVERYTHING ON THE TABLE AND DON'T LET GO OF YOUR OPTIONS.

CORRECT. THIS IS MORE OF A NOT A LONG TERM GOAL, BUT AN INTERMITTENT, SHALL WE SAY, TYPE GOAL.

I THINK RIGHT NOW, AS I'M MOSTLY CONCERNED WITH THIS, WHAT WE NEED ATTENTION TO NOW AND FINISHING WHAT WE'VE STARTED.

AND THAT'S MAINLY GURLEY STREET.

CORRECT. YOU KNOW WE HAVE BEEN DRAGGING OUR FEET ON THIS NOW FOR HOW LONG.

YEAH, TOO LONG.

AS LONG AS YOU'VE BEEN IN OFFICE.

AND CHAIRMAN I WOULD JUST SAY I DON'T SEE IT AS A SHORT TERM.

I SEE IT AS THE BEGINNING OF THE LONG TERM PLAN.

I THOUGHT THE BEGINNING WAS ABOUT FIVE YEARS AGO, BUT OKAY, WE'LL MEASURE FROM THERE.

AND I DON'T KNOW. GURLEY STILL SHOWING IT'S A PRESCOTT JAIL.

AND IT'S ACTUALLY A CRIMINAL JUSTICE CENTER PRETTY MUCH BECAUSE THE JAIL IS AT A DIFFERENT LOCATION RIGHT.

YEAH. AND ONE OF OUR BOARD MEETINGS.

THE BOARD HAD ACTUALLY AGREED TO RENAME THAT FACILITY, AND I'VE HAD A RECENT CONVERSATION WITH CHIEF DEPUTY NEWNHAM IN REGARD TO THAT.

I DIDN'T ANTICIPATE THERE WOULD BE SUCH A DELAY BETWEEN WHEN WE APPROVED THE NAME CHANGE AND WHEN THE PROJECT ACTUALLY STARTED.

SO I HAD PLANNED ON ADDRESSING THE SIGNAGE WHEN THE PROJECT WENT, BUT WITH THE DELAY IN THE PROJECT, I ACTUALLY HAVE MY STAFF LOOKING AT REPLACING THE SIGN OUT FRONT.

SO WE'RE LOOKING AT REALLY JUST STRIPPING THE DETENTION CENTER NAME OFF OF THAT AND IT'LL BECOME THE JUSTICE CENTER.

CRIMINAL JUSTICE CENTER.

EXCUSE ME. CRIMINAL ADMINISTRATION CENTER.

THANK YOU. OKAY. GOOD.

SO BASICALLY, WE NEED TO TALK TO THE SHERIFF, ADULT PROBATION AND COUNTY ATTORNEY TO GET THEM MOVING.

RIGHT. YEAH.

WELL, WE HAVE A CONCEPT.

YEAH, AND I'M WATCHING DENNIS SHAKING HIS HEAD.

NO, WE'VE BEEN READY FOR YEARS, SIR.

THAT'S REALLY WHAT I WAS ABOUT TO SAY, IS WE HAVE A COMPLETE PLAN, AND IT JUST GOT PUT ON HOLD.

AND IF THERE ARE NO CHANGES OR NO DESIRED CHANGES OR ANYTHING WE NEED TO REVISIT, THEN WE CAN MOVE FORWARD.

BUT WE PROBABLY WANT TO TAKE A STEP BACK AND JUST MAKE SURE WE'RE HITTING THE MARK WITH THAT AND MAYBE MAKE SOME SUBTLE ADJUSTMENTS.

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I SEE MANAGER THOMPSON NODDING HIS HEAD OVER THERE, AND YOU CHARACTERIZED THAT WELL.

AND WE HAVE MONEY SET ASIDE FOR THAT RENOVATION, RIGHT? WE HAVE SOME MONEY SET ASIDE, BUT AS WE ALL KNOW, THAT MONEY WAS SET ASIDE HOW MANY YEARS AGO NOW? AND WE KNOW WHAT'S HAPPENED TO COST.

SO PROBABLY NOT ENOUGH.

NO, NO, IT'S UNFORTUNATELY IT'S NOT ENOUGH.

WE AT LEAST HAD A GOOD COST ASSESSMENT DONE FOR THE REMODEL.

THAT 22,000FT².

IT'S HELPED ME RECENTER THE OVERALL COST THAT WE'RE EXPECTING FOR THAT BUILDING.

YES. IT IS GOING TO GO UP A LITTLE BIT FROM SOME OF OUR ORIGINAL ESTIMATES, AND THAT'S ACTUALLY UP A LITTLE BIT FROM THE INITIAL ESTIMATE THAT WE PUT OUT SEVERAL YEARS AGO.

BUT AS TIME GOES ON, THOSE COSTS CONTINUE TO CLIMB.

YEAH. SO HOW SOON CAN WE GET STARTED ON THAT EARLY STREET? WE CAN START THE PROCESS TODAY.

YEAH. YEAH, THAT WAS MY QUESTION.

WHY DON'T WE GET MOVING ON THIS? YEAH. I MEAN, I'M HEARING DIRECTION HERE.

SO, STAFF WILL FOLLOW UP ON THAT.

YEAH. IMMEDIATELY. YEAH.

RIGHT. YEAH.

GOOD REASON NOT TO.

YEAH. OKAY. EXCELLENT.

ANYTHING ELSE? CHAIRMAN. MEMBERS OF THE BOARD? NO. WELL, I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR THIS CONVERSATION.

WE'RE TALKING ON OUR BREAK.

AND MAYBE IT FELT A LITTLE BIT MESSY HERE AT TIMES, BUT I THINK WE JUST TO GO OVER IT.

SO BASICALLY, WE'RE TELLING BRANDON THAT WE'RE GOING TO GO AHEAD AND START MOVING FORWARD WITH GURLEY STREET TO FINISH THAT PROJECT.

CORRECT. TWO WE'RE GOING TO GO OUT AND VISIT THIS NEW SITE OUT IN PRESCOTT VALLEY.

AND THEN ALSO THEY WOULD PROBABLY GO BY AND LOOK AT WHERE THE OTHER FOUR AND A HALF ACRES IS, AND THEN MAKE A TOUR OVER TO COMMERCE STREET AND MAKE LOOK AT THAT AREA AGAIN.

SO WE'RE ALL CLEAR.

THAT'S A GREAT IDEA. AND ENGAGE IN CONVERSATION AND MOVE THAT FORWARD.

AND THE LAST PIECE THAT YOU DIDN'T INCLUDE WAS THE ADDITIONAL STUDY THEN ABOUT WHAT THIS MODEL LOOKS LIKE FOR OUR LIBRARY, SHERIFF'S OFFICE AND APPLES TO APPLES.

I AGREE. NO, I THINK THAT'S A GREAT IDEA.

RIGHT. WELL, YOU GET A VAN AND DO THAT LITTLE FIELD TRIP.

MAYBE WE CAN MAKE IT AFTER THE NEXT BOARD MEETING.

THAT WAY WE'RE ALL HERE TOGETHER ANYWAY.

WELL, WE'LL LOOK AT THAT.

YEAH, THAT WOULD BE A COTTONWOOD MEETING, BUT THAT COULD BE THE NEXT PRESCOTT MEETING.

YEAH, NEXT PRESCOTT MEETING.

RIGHT. WE'LL TAKE A LOOK.

OKAY. WE'LL FIGURE IT OUT.

WELL, AGAIN, I THINK IN OUR DISCUSSION, WE TALKED ABOUT WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO OUT IN THE RURAL AREAS.

AND I THINK IF WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A BALANCED APPROACH, WE'VE GOT TO START MOVING FORWARD ON THAT, TOO.

WHETHER OR NOT IT'S THIS BUILDING DESIGN HERE OR SOMETHING ELSE, I THINK WE NEED TO MOVE ALONG.

YOU KNOW, YOU'VE GOT LETTERS IN FRONT OF YOU FROM SPECTRUM AND WICKENBURG HEALTH.

THEY THEY'VE BEEN WAITING FOR QUITE A WHILE, AT LEAST SINCE I'VE BEEN IN THIS POSITION TO GET THIS BUILDING STARTED DOWN THERE IN CONGRESS.

SO I THINK THAT WOULD BE ONE THING I THINK WE CAN START WORKING ON.

I THINK WE DO HAVE SOME ARPA FUNDS THAT COULD PROBABLY START TO DESIGN ON THAT AND BE A SPRINGBOARD ON LOOKING AT HOW MUCH THAT WAS GOING TO COST, AND THEN BE ABLE TO SCALE THAT FOR ANY OTHER LOCATION THAT IT MIGHT BE CONSIDERED FOR, FOR THAT MODEL.

I AGREE WITH HARRY.

I THINK WE SHOULD MOVE TOGETHER WITH SOME KIND OF A MODEL DOWN IN CONGRESS RIGHT AWAY WITH AN ARCHITECTURAL CONCEPT, IF NOTHING ELSE.

AND I DON'T KNOW ABOUT THE ARPA FUND PART OF IT, BECAUSE WE ONLY HAVE UNTIL THE END OF DECEMBER TO SPEND THAT MONEY, RIGHT? WHY NOT JUST DO IT ALL AT ONCE? DEDICATED. DEDICATED.

YEAH. WHY NOT JUST LOOK AT ALL THE FACILITIES AT ONCE? SINCE WE'RE LOOKING AT THAT, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT DOING A DIAGRAM.

WE'VE ALREADY DISCUSSED THAT.

INSTEAD OF JUST GETTING STARTED ON ONE.

WHY DON'T WE DO THAT? GET A CENTERPIECE OF WHAT WE WANT TO LOOK AT WHAT IT LOOK LIKE.

AND THEN ONCE WE GET INTO THAT, THEN IF YOU WANT TO DO YOUR PROJECT, YOU JUST ADD WHAT'S GOOD FOR THAT YOU HAVE IT'S GOING TO LOOK A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENTLY IN YOUR COMMUNITY THAN IT WOULD BE IN THE REST OF THEM.

BUT I THINK HAVING ONE CORE CONCEPT AND THEN LOOKING AT EACH COMMUNITY INSTEAD OF JUMP STARTED OVER HERE, RIGHT? WHY DON'T WE JUST START ON ONE CONCEPT AND THEN LOOK AT WHAT, RIGHT, APPLY IT TO EACH OF THEM.

AND THEN WHEN YOU WANT TO ADD TO YOURS, WE CAN ADD TO YOURS.

BUT THERE'S NO SENSE OF GETTING ONE STARTED HERE WHEN I WANT TO SEE.

AND I THINK THE REST OF THE BOARD WANTS TO SEE JUST A GENERAL CONCEPT OF WHAT WE WANT IN EACH COMMUNITY, AND THEN WE CAN MASSAGE THAT AS WE MOVE FORWARD.

SO THAT WAS WHAT I WAS HEARING.

BUT WHAT I REFERRED TO IS THE ADDITIONAL STUDY TO COME UP WITH WHAT THAT NEEDS TO LOOK LIKE.

AND I KNOW SUPERVISOR OBERG, YOU WOULD LIKE TO MOVE SOONER RATHER THAN LATER.

I PERSONALLY AM NOT SURE THAT WE CAN'T DO BOTH AT THE AT THE SAME TIME.

AS WE START THAT WORK, LET THEM KNOW WE'VE GOT THIS PRESSING NEED IN THIS AREA.

HERE'S WHAT WE'RE SEEING AND TRY TO SHAPE THAT AS QUICKLY AS WE CAN.

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BUT AGAIN, CONSISTENT WITH THE LARGER MODEL THAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT.

YES. WELL, YOU KNOW, AND ANOTHER THING THAT KIND OF LENDS ITSELF TO SOME URGENCY IS THAT HERE WE'VE GOT PEOPLE THAT ARE WILLING PARTNERS THAT WANT TO PARTICIPATE WITH US.

WE SHOULD BE TAKING ADVANTAGE OF THAT BEFORE THEY CHANGE THEIR MIND.

I AGREE WITH THAT TOO.

YEAH, IF I MIGHT.

AND THIS ONE IS GOING TO BE CONSIDERABLY DIFFERENT FROM PROBABLY MANY OTHERS BECAUSE OF THE HEALTH CLINICS.

THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE ANYTHING CLOSE TO THAT IN A WAY OF A HEALTH CLINIC.

BUT WHY NOT ADD THAT IN WITH THE CONSULTANT WHEN YOU WERE BRINGING IN THE CONSULTANT TO LOOK AT WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE FOR EACH OF THESE COMMUNITIES, AND JUST ADD THAT INTO THE PART OF THE LOOKING INTO IT SAYING, HEY, WE DO HAVE TENANTS READY TO GO RIGHT NOW, 3 OR 4 DIFFERENT MODELS, RIGHT? IT'S GOING TO BE 6000 SQUARE X NUMBER OF SQUARE FEET 12.

WHAT CAN YOU PUT IN THERE.

AND THEY DON'T NECESSARILY LIKE HARRY SAID EARLIER, IT DOESN'T NEED TO BE 6000FT IN SOME OF THE AREAS THAT'S JUST GOING TO FIT HARRY'S IN CONGRESS AREA.

FOR THE 6000FT, WE MIGHT ONLY NEED 1000FT FOR OUR HEALTH CLINICS, FOR JUST HAVING A VIEWING ROOM.

AND WELL, AS WE CAN KIND OF TAKE A PAIR OF SCISSORS AND TAKE THIS MAP AND SEW IT UP.

WELL, I ONLY NEED THIS.

SO THIS IS THE ONE I NEED FOR OVER HERE FOR A LIBRARY.

AGAIN, THOSE BUILDING BLOCKS.

AND IF I NEED. YEAH, EXACTLY.

AND TAKE THEM APART.

YOU KNOW, IT'S KIND OF LIKE A LEGO.

YEAH. LIKE LEGOS, BUT WE DON'T NEED THIS OVER HERE.

SO WE TAKE THAT LEGO OUT AND WE ONLY PUT IN THAT PORTION, RIGHT? BUT I'M SAYING TO GET STARTED, LET'S GET JUST THE BASIC CONCEPT DOWN.

AND THEN ONCE A CONSULTANT, THEN ADD THE OTHER STUFF IF WE WANT TO ADD IT WITH THE CONSULTANT TO LOOK AT HARRY'S NEEDS.

MAYBE THERE'S DIFFERENT NEEDS IN COURT AND VOC.

THERE'S GOING TO BE DIFFERENT NEEDS FOR EACH COMMUNITY, BUT WE HAVE THAT BASIC MODEL SO WE CAN MOVE FORWARD WITH.

AND THEN IF WE HAVE TO TWEAK IT, WE CAN TWEAK IT LATER ON.

BUT IT'S A GOOD START TO GET THINGS GOING FROM THAT.

AND IF YOU HAVE TO FIND IF YOU HAVE THAT MODEL, THEN YOU CAN TAKE THAT AND FIGURE OUT WHAT KIND OF LAND YOU ACTUALLY NEED IF YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO MAKE PURCHASE.

YES. AND WE HAVE ARPA FUNDING.

SOUNDS LIKE IT'S AVAILABLE TO PAY FOR THAT STUDY AND GET IT GOING AS A BIG PICTURE, PART OF IT, PART OF IT.

AND THE OTHER THING IS THAT THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT HAS THE FACILITY OVER THERE IN PRESCOTT VALLEY, BUT WE'RE NOT HAVING TO PAY FOR THAT RIGHT NOW, RIGHT. ARE WE AT A POINT WHERE IT'S ALMOST THE CHEAP RENT? RIGHT. YEAH. AND HOW LONG IS THAT GOOD? WE HAVE, I BELIEVE, ANOTHER 20 YEARS.

OKAY. SO, YOU SEE, I REALIZE IT DOESN'T REALLY WORK.

WELL, IT NEEDS TO BE.

BUT WITH NOT HAVING TO PAY ANYTHING ON THAT GIVES US THE OPPORTUNITY TO DO ALL OF THIS.

BY THE TIME WE GET ALL OF THIS DONE, THEN HOPEFULLY THAT WILL BE SOMETHING THE COUNTY WILL BE ABLE TO LOOK AT LONG AFTER WE'RE GONE.

YOU KNOW, I DO THINK WHEN IT COMES TO THE RURAL STUDIES, I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT FOR US TO ENGAGE ALL THE DIFFERENT COMMUNITIES AND LOOK AT THE INDIVIDUAL STAKEHOLDERS, WHETHER IT BE THE SHERIFF, THE LIBRARY.

AND I THINK WHEN WE ENGAGE THEM TALKING ABOUT THE STUDIES, WE CAN GET THEM TO BRING FORTH SOME CONCEPTUAL BLOCKING DIAGRAMS FOR THE DIFFERENT MODELS THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT AND HELPING US WORK THROUGH A DESIGN THAT IS FLEXIBLE FOR OUR DIFFERENT COMMUNITIES.

BUT I ALSO AGREE WITH MANAGER THOMPSON THAT THE CONGRESS MODEL COULD CERTAINLY FOLLOW A DIFFERENT PATH.

I THINK WE HAVE A DEFINED SET OF USERS DOWN THERE.

I THINK WE'VE ENGAGED THOSE PEOPLE ALREADY.

I WOULDN'T THINK IT TO BE A WASTE OF TIME OR RESOURCES IF WE WANTED TO PURSUE A PARALLEL PATH AND THEN USE THAT CONCEPT, THAT MODEL OF THAT BUILDING AS THE BASIS FOR EVERYTHING ELSE MOVING FORWARD. SO DEPENDING UPON TIMING, IF WE WANT TO WAIT AND DO ALL OF THAT, IT'LL JUST BE A LITTLE BIT OF TIME BEFORE WE CAN GET TO CONGRESS.

CONGRESS WOULD BE, I'M ASSUMING, THE FIRST ONE DONE.

AFTER THAT STUDY IS DONE, IT WOULD JUST BE TIME.

SO I THINK TO SUPERVISOR BROWN'S POINT OF POTENTIAL DELAYS AND MAYBE LOSING A PARTNER, IF THAT'S A CONCERN.

I DON'T SEE US.

I DON'T SEE IT AS BEING AN ISSUE TO FOLLOW A PARALLEL PATH.

IN THAT SENSE. CAN YOU GET US SOMETHING TO VOTE ON BY THE NEXT MEETING? AS FAR AS SHIFT [INAUDIBLE] STUDY, OR DO WE NEED TO DO ANY FURTHER PRESENTATION NOW? AGAIN, GURLEY STREET IS OUR FIRST PRIORITY.

THAT'S GOING TO TAKE A LITTLE TIME TO REASSESS, GET COST, FIGURE OUT EXACTLY WHERE WE ARE, AND THEN WE'RE GOING TO NEED TO HAVE A CONVERSATION AS A BODY ABOUT HOW TO FINANCE A PLAN.

BUT WE NEED TO KNOW WHAT THAT PLAN IS BEFORE WE CAN GET TO THAT STEP.

SO, AND THAT'S TRUE BECAUSE OF OUR EXPENDITURE LIMIT THAT CREATES AN ISSUE.

SO CORRECT.

BUT WE CAN GET STARTED BY HERE AND HOPEFULLY YOU'RE CORRECT.

BUT WE CAN GET STARTED ON A NUMBER OF THESE THINGS SIMULTANEOUSLY.

ENGAGING CONSULTANTS ABOUT THE STUDY RE-ENGAGING CONVERSATIONS ABOUT WHAT GURLEY STREET FINAL PLANS GET COST AND ENGAGE PRESCOTT

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VALLEY IN CONVERSATIONS ABOUT PROPERTIES OUT THERE.

THOSE CAN ALL THREE START AT THE SAME TIME.

AND IN THE MEANTIME, GET US OUT TO THESE LOCATIONS.

ABSOLUTELY. MAKE SURE AGAIN, I LIKE THAT IDEA.

AND WHAT PART ARE YOU THINKING OF WHERE PROBATION WOULD MOVE AWAY? LET'S JUST SAY WHAT AREA? I GO FOR PROBATION AND MOVE AWAY TO ANOTHER LOCATION.

SANTA BARBARA, FOR EXAMPLE.

WHAT TIME ARE SO AGAIN, THAT WOULD DEPEND ON CONVERSATIONS WITH PV.

AND IF THERE IS AN EXCHANGE WE COULD WORK OUT.

SO, IF LET'S JUST IF THAT WENT THROUGH THEN THERE'S A POSSIBILITY TO RELOCATE.

YES. NOT MOVE IT AWAY COMPLETELY BUT RELOCATE IT UP IN THERE, WHICH MEANS GETTING AN IDEA OF THE VALUE OF THAT PROPERTY DOWN THERE IS ALSO MONEY IN OUR COFFERS.

CORRECT. MOVING FORWARD, WHETHER IT'S FOR HARRY OR HOW WE LOOK AT THAT.

IS IT FOR SALE NOW? NO, NO, NO.

SO IT'S NOT LISTED OR ANYTHING OKAY.

NO, THEY'RE JUST VERY EAGER TO GET THAT.

AND THAT PIECE OF PROPERTY YOU'RE REFERRING TO IS WORTH A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT I KNOW.

SO ARE WE JUST SAYING THAT PUBLICLY TO YOU.

ARE YOU GOING TO GET A? YEAH, WE WOULD. YEAH.

ULTIMATELY, WE'D HAVE TO HAVE APPRAISALS, I BELIEVE.

RIGHT. COMPARISON WISE.

OKAY. OKAY. OKAY.

IS THERE ARPA FUNDS THAT WE'RE LOOKING TO TRYING TO GET OBLIGATED BY THE END OF THE YEAR? I BELIEVE THERE WILL BE.

OKAY. SO AGAIN, I THINK THAT'S SOME OF THE MONEY WE OUGHT TO BE LOOKING AT TO DO SOME OF THIS DESIGN WORK.

THE OTHER THING IS, AND CORRECT ME ON THIS, IF WE DON'T GET THE EXPENDITURE LIMIT, WE CAN STILL BOND OUT BECAUSE THAT'S DONE WITH BONDS.

YOU DON'T IT DOESN'T COUNT AGAINST YOUR EXPANSION.

IS THAT CORRECT? THAT'S CORRECT.

OKAY. YEAH.

WELL, I THINK OKAY, HERE WE GO.

JUST ON ARPA.

THERE'S BEEN SOME DISCUSSION OF UTILIZING THOSE FUNDS, AND OBVIOUSLY WE'RE VERY LIMITED IN TERMS OF ALLOWED USES.

THERE WAS SOME DISCUSSION OF THIS CONGRESS BUILDING SPECIFICALLY AND THE DESIGN OF THIS BUILDING.

AND I TALKED TO OUR CONSULTANT, ERNST AND YOUNG, ABOUT THAT, AND THEY FELT THAT THE DESIGN OF THE CLINICAL PORTION OF THAT BUILDING WOULD POTENTIALLY QUALIFY FOR ARPA FUNDING.

IF WE'RE TALKING ABOUT SIMPLY DEVELOPING SOME SORT OF MODULAR CONCEPT, MULTIFUNCTION GOVERNMENT BUILDING, THAT THAT PROBABLY IS NOT GOING TO QUALIFY.

SO THERE WOULD NEED TO BE ANOTHER FUNDING SOURCE.

SO PERHAPS THE CONGRESS MODEL IS A LITTLE DIFFERENT THAN.

PARALLEL PATHS.

SO, DO WE HAVE THE FUNDING TO DO A CONSULTANT NOW FOR THE OFFSITE FACILITY? WE'LL TAKE A LOOK AT THAT. AND AGAIN, WE'D HAVE TO GO OUT RFP PROCESS FOR THAT.

SO FIGURE OUT WHAT THOSE COSTS ARE GOING TO BE.

FOR WHAT? FOR THE ADDITIONAL STUDY.

FOR WHAT? THAT FOR WHAT? AGAIN, FOR THE ADDITIONAL STUDY TO DETERMINE, YOU KNOW, WHAT DOES THE MODEL LOOK LIKE? WHERE SHOULD THEY BE FOR THE LIBRARIES? OKAY. BUT WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT BECAUSE WE NEED TO TURN AROUND AND LOOK, GET A REAPPRAISAL QUICKLY ON WHAT IT'S GOING TO TAKE TO FIX GURLEY.

YES, YES BECAUSE THAT'S JOB ONE.

YES ABSOLUTELY.

THAT'S JOB. YEAH. YEAH I WILL DO MY BEST TO GET THE COUNTY ATTORNEY TO REENGAGE AND MOVE ON THAT PROJECT.

I CAN HELP YOU WITH THAT. SEE IF WE CAN MOVE THEM AT ALL.

BUT BASED ON MAURY'S COMMENTS, THEN IT SOUNDS LIKE THE RPA COULD BE USED FOR THE CONGRESS BUILDING, FOR THE DESIGN, FOR THE MEDICAL PORTION OR THE CLINIC PORTION.

AND I THINK, DON'T WE HAVE A CONTRACT RIGHT NOW THAT'S WORKING ON THE PHARMACY OUT AT COUNTY HEALTH? YES. YES, WE CURRENTLY HAVE THEM.

THE ARCHITECT WHO'S WORKING ON THE PHARMACY DESIGN WAS ACTUALLY DONE THROUGH A OPEN SOLICITATION.

AND THAT'S BEING FUNDED UNDER A HRSA FEDERAL GRANT.

I DON'T KNOW THAT WE COULD EXTEND THAT CONTRACT.

I DON'T KNOW IF THAT WOULD CONFORM WITH ARPA.

I SEE A HEAD SHAKING.

NO. IF WE WERE TO DO A PARALLEL PATH ON THIS, I THINK WE COULD COVER POSSIBLY SOME OF IT SPECIFICALLY TO THE CLINIC, BUT TO THE POINT THAT MAURY WAS MAKING, IF WE WERE TALKING ABOUT THE OVERALL CONCEPT, THEN NO, WE COULDN'T USE ANY OF THE ARPA FUNDING ON THAT UNLESS WE SPECIFICALLY KNOW IT'S CLINIC.

IN FACT, I'M NOT SURE.

BUT LESLIE, I THINK YOU MENTIONED AT SOME POINT HERE A FEW MONTHS AGO THAT SHE DOESN'T THINK SHE NEEDS THE SPACE NOW BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, THEY BASICALLY CHANGED THEIR OPERATION.

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NO SHE STILL BELIEVES SHE NEEDS MORE SPACE.

SHE IS FINDING SOME EFFICIENCIES THERE.

BUT WE ARE ACTUALLY RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE OF A PROCESS.

NEXT MONDAY, I AM SITTING DOWN TO LOOK AT SOME TECHNICAL PROPOSALS FOR USING HER $2.5 MILLION THAT WAS ALLOCATED FOR ARPA FUNDING FOR RENOVATIONS AND EXPANSIONS OF HER BUILDING.

SO WE HAVE AN ACTIVE PROJECT THAT WE'RE PURSUING ON THAT ONE.

THAT'S A GOOD IDEA. OKAY.

YEAH. YEAH, WE'RE DOING A DESIGN BUILD ON THAT WITH THE INTENT OF ENCUMBERING AND THEN SAID, WE'RE MOVING ACROSS THE STREET TO COMMERCE.

THE OTHER COMMERCE BUILDING.

WELL, YOU HAVE THE POWER TO MAKE THAT DECISION.

NO, I'M GOING TO BE GONE.

YEAH. SO ANYWAY, MAYBE THAT CONTRACT IS WORKING ON THE PHARMACY RIGHT NOW.

WOULD BE A SUITABLE PERSON TO LOOK AT FOR THIS COMMERCE BUILDING, AT LEAST FOR THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT SIDE OF IT.

THEY'RE A GREAT RESOURCE.

AND I'M GOING TO LOOK TO MARTY ON THIS ONE.

IF ULTIMATELY, WE DECIDE THAT WE ARE GOING TO USE SOME ARPA FUNDING ON A CONGRESS BUILDING BECAUSE WE KNOW IT SPECIFICALLY HAS CLINIC.

IT'S ABOUT HALF THE BUILDINGS THAT COULD PAY FOR ABOUT HALF.

AND THEN WE'LL HAVE TO AUGMENT THE OTHER HALF OF IT.

BUT EVEN BECAUSE SOME OF THAT FALLS UNDER ARPA, THE ENTIRE PROJECT HAS TO FALL UNDER THE ARPA GUIDELINES.

AND I DON'T BELIEVE I CAN JUST SELECT A PROFESSIONAL.

I WOULD HAVE TO GO BACK THROUGH THE SAME SOLICITATION PROCESS AND SPECIFICALLY IDENTIFY THE ARPA LANGUAGE IN THERE AS PART OF THAT.

RIGHT. OKAY.

ANYTHING ELSE? YOU READY? YEAH.

I JUST SAY ONCE AGAIN, THANK YOU FOR THIS CONVERSATION.

IT WAS VERY HELPFUL, VERY CONSTRUCTIVE.

AND I THINK GIVES STAFF THE DIRECTION WE NEED.

APPRECIATE IT VERY MUCH.

THANK YOU FOR THE WORK AND THE DILIGENCE.

APPRECIATE IT. THANK YOU EVERYONE.

AND WITH THAT IT'S 130.

AND WE'RE GOING TO ADJOURN FROM THIS PARTICULAR STUDY SESSION.

THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.

THANK YOU.

YOU GOOD? YEAH.

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.