Sep 04, 2024 BOARD OF SUPERVISORS

[ CALL TO ORDER]

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SETTLE DOWN, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN.

IF THERE'S A SEAT AVAILABLE, PLEASE TAKE IT.

GOT AN OVERFLOW CROWD TODAY AND A LOT OF BUSINESS TO TAKE CARE OF, SO BEAR WITH US, PLEASE.

OKAY. THIS IS A MEETING OF THE REGULARLY SCHEDULED MEETING OF THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS FOR WEDNESDAY, SEPTEMBER 4TH.

ALL ITEMS LISTED ARE POTENTIAL ACTION ITEMS UNLESS OTHERWISE NOTED, THE ORDER OF ITEMS MAY BE MODIFIED AT THE MEETING.

ONE OR MORE BOARD MEMBERS MAY ATTEND TELEPHONICALLY OR VIRTUALLY BOARD MEETINGS, MEMBERS ATTENDING TELEPHONICALLY OR VIRTUALLY WILL BE ANNOUNCED AT THE MEETING.

I DON'T BELIEVE WE HAVE ANY.

IT DOESN'T APPEAR SO.

AND PURSUANT TO ARS 38-431.03 A3, THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS MAY VOTE TO GO INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION FOR THE PURPOSE OF OBTAINING LEGAL ADVICE WITH RESPECT TO ANY ITEM LISTED ON THE AGENDA.

CITIZENS ARE ENCOURAGED TO WATCH THE MEETING VIRTUALLY AT WWW.YAVAPAI.GOV/MEETINGS.

THE PUBLIC WILL HAVE PHYSICAL ACCESS TO THE MEETING LOCATION 15 MINUTES PRIOR TO THE MEETING.

IF YOU GOT A CELL PHONE, TURN IT OFF OR LEAVE.

OKAY, WRITTEN COMMENTS ON CURRENT AGENDA ITEMS WILL BE RECEIVED BY THE CLERK OF THE BOARD AT THE CLERK OF THE BOARD WEB AT YAVAPAIAZ.GOV 24 HOURS PRIOR TO THE BOARD MEETING.

HEARING AID DEVICES FOR THE HEARING IMPAIRED ARE AVAILABLE AT BOTH BOARD HEARING ROOMS. REQUESTS FOR REASONABLE ACCOMMODATIONS FOR PERSONS WITH DISABILITIES SHOULD BE MADE AT LEAST THREE WORKING DAYS IN ADVANCE OF A SCHEDULED MEETING.

WITH THAT, I'D ASK MISS MALLORY TO GIVE THE INVOCATION AND MISS MICHAELS TO PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE.

OUR DEAREST LORD, WE COME BEFORE YOU TODAY.

WE ASK YOUR BLESSINGS ON OUR DAY.

WE ALSO ASK, LORD, THAT WE ALWAYS REMEMBER THE FIGHT FOR OUR GREAT UNITED STATES OF AMERICA.

THOSE THAT HAVE GIVEN THE ULTIMATE SACRIFICE, THOSE THAT ARE STILL FIGHTING TODAY.

LORD, WE PRAY FOR SAFETY FOR OUR COUNTRY.

WE PRAY SAFETY OVER OUR FIRST RESPONDERS, OUR MILITARY, ALL THOSE THAT STAND ON THE FRONT LINES.

LET US BE STRONG, LORD, AS THOSE THAT CAME BEFORE US.

IN JESUS NAME, AMEN.

AMEN. PLEASE JOIN ME.

I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.

THANK YOU LADIES. WITH THAT, WE'LL CALL THE MEETING TO ORDER AND HAVE ROLL CALL.

CHAIRMAN BROWN. HERE.

VICE CHAIR MICHAELS.

PRESENT. SUPERVISOR OBERG.

HERE. SUPERVISOR GREGORY.

HERE. SUPERVISOR MALLORY.

HERE. YOU HAVE A QUORUM.

THANK YOU.

OKAY, WE'LL GO WITH AWARDS AND PROCLAMATIONS.

[ AWARDS AND PROCLAMATIONS ]

IT'S POW MIA RECOGNITION DAY.

WHEREAS TODAY AND EVERY DAY, WE EXPRESS OUR SINCEREST GRATITUDE TO THOSE IN ACTIVE MILITARY SERVICE, VETERANS, MILITARY FAMILIES, AND ALL OTHERS WHO PLACE THEMSELVES IN HARM'S WAY TO DEFEND THE VIRTUES OF OUR GREAT NATION.

AND WHEREAS THROUGHOUT AMERICAN HISTORY, MEMBERS OF AMERICA'S ARMED FORCES HAVE MADE UNCOMMON SACRIFICES AS PRISONERS OF WAR, SERVING THEIR COUNTRY UNDER CONDITIONS OF EXTREME HARDSHIP, WHILE REMAINING STEADFAST EVEN WHEN THEIR TREATMENT VIOLATED FUNDAMENTAL STANDARDS OF MORALITY AND INTERNATIONAL CODES OF CONDUCT. WHEREAS WE SALUTE THOSE WHO, IN FACT ARE SERVING OUR NATION, RELINQUISH THEIR FREEDOM AS POWS TO PROTECT THE LIBERTY WE ENJOY. AND WHEREAS WE ALSO REMEMBER THOSE CONSIDERED MISSING IN ACTION AND THE PAIN AND SUFFERING OF WAR THAT CONTINUES FOR THEIR FAMILIES, FRIENDS, AND FOR ALL OF US.

AND WHEREAS IT IS IMPORTANT TO RECOGNIZE NOT ONLY THOSE WHO HAVE SERVED IN THE ARMED FORCES, BUT ALSO THE FAMILY MEMBERS AND THE FRIENDS OF OUR COUNTRY'S PRISONERS OF WAR AND UNRETURNED VETERANS.

AMERICA'S MIA.

AND WHEREAS, IN HONOR THE MEN AND WOMEN WHO HAVE COURAGEOUSLY SERVED THEIR COUNTRY, THE UNITED STATES CONGRESS ESTABLISHED THE THIRD FRIDAY IN THE MONTH OF SEPTEMBER AS NATIONAL POW MIA RECOGNITION DAY.

NOW, BE IT RESOLVED THAT THE YAVAPAI COUNTY BOARD OF SUPERVISORS DOES HEREBY PROCLAIM SEPTEMBER 20TH, 2024 AS POW

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WITNESS THEREOF CHAIRMAN OF THE BOARD CRAIG BROWN.

I MOVE TO ACCEPT THE PROCLAMATION.

SECOND. SECOND BY MISS MICHAELS.

ALL IN FAVOR? AYE.

WE HAVE A REPRESENTATIVE HERE FROM THE VETERANS ADMINISTRATION THAT'S GOING TO RECEIVE THE PROCLAMATION AND WILL BE POSTING IT AT THE VA AS WELL AS IN OUR COUNTY BUILDINGS.

SO WELCOME, MAX EFRON.

YEAH, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

HIT THE BUTTON. HIT THE BUTTON.

SORRY. THERE WE GO.

ALL RIGHT. MAX EFRON, PUBLIC AFFAIRS OFFICER AT THE NORTHERN ARIZONA VA HEALTH CARE SYSTEM.

THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME. THANK YOU FOR THE PROCLAMATION, CHAIRMAN BROWN.

I JUST WANTED TO LET EVERYBODY KNOW THAT WE WILL BE HAVING A POW MIA RECOGNITION DAY CEREMONY AT THE NORTHERN ARIZONA VA MEDICAL CENTER HERE AS THE BOB STUMP MEDICAL CENTER OFF OF HIGHWAY 89, AND THIS WILL BE THE FIRST TIME WE'VE DONE IT SINCE PRE-COVID.

REALLY, IT'S BEEN SOME TIME.

AND SO WE ARE TRYING TO GET BACK IN THE FLOW OF DOING THIS ON AN ANNUAL BASIS, RECOGNIZING THIS VERY IMPORTANT DAY.

AND SO WE'LL BE HOSTING AT THE CENTER OF OUR CAMPUS, RIGHT AT OUR MAIN FLAGPOLE.

WE'LL HAVE TENTS, WE'LL HAVE CHAIRS.

WE'D LOVE TO RECOGNIZE ANY POWS WITHIN OUR COMMUNITY, WHICH IT'S NOT ALWAYS THERE'S THERE'S NOT THAT MANY OUT THERE.

AND SO IT'S NOT ALWAYS EASY TO FIND THEM.

SO IF ANY ARE IN THIS CROWD OR IF YOU KNOW OF ANY POWS, WE ENCOURAGE THEM TO REACH OUT TO US SO THAT WE CAN RECOGNIZE THEM PROPERLY.

OTHERWISE, WE'RE JUST GOING TO HAVE TO KIND OF HOPE THAT SOME SHOW UP AND THEN, YOU KNOW, INFORMALLY, KIND OF RECOGNIZE THEM.

BUT WE'D LOVE TO REALLY ACKNOWLEDGE AND ACKNOWLEDGE THEIR SERVICE.

SO, YOU KNOW, I'LL BE LEAVING SOME FLYERS OUT IN THE BACK.

ANYBODY IS WELCOME. IT'S GOING TO BE ON THAT DAY, FRIDAY, SEPTEMBER 20TH FROM 10 TO 11.

IT'S JUST ONE HOUR AND WE'LL HAVE SOME REFRESHMENTS.

AND ANYONE FROM THE PUBLIC IS WELCOME.

FAMILY MEMBERS, VETERANS, ANYONE WHO JUST WANTS TO RECOGNIZE OUR OUR SERVICE MEMBERS.

SO YEAH, IF THERE'S ANY QUESTIONS.

SO IT'S IN FRONT OF THE FLAGPOLE? IT'LL BE RIGHT THERE AT THE CENTER CENTER OF CAMPUS, OUR MAIN FLAGPOLE.

WE ALWAYS HAVE OUR MAIN FLAG AND OUR POW FLAG FLYING, AND YEAH, WE'LL HAVE A BUNCH OF TENTS JUST TO PROVIDE SHADE AND A LOT OF SEATING.

SO ANYBODY IS AND WE'LL HAVE SHUTTLE SYSTEMS. PARKING WILL BE READILY AVAILABLE.

SO WE'LL HAVE SIGNS ON WHERE EVERYBODY CAN CAN GO.

GREAT. THANKS. WE'RE GOING TO GIVE YOU A COPY OF THE PROCLAMATION AND REMIND EVERYBODY THAT IT'S FRIDAY, SEPTEMBER 20TH.

CORRECT. WHAT TIME AGAIN? IT'S GOING TO BE FROM 10 TO 11.

10 TO 11. YEAH.

OKAY. THANK YOU MAX.

ALL RIGHT. WE'RE GOING TO COME DOWN AND GET A PICTURE.

MIC] ALL RIGHT, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, MOVING ON TO ITEM NUMBER TWO, APPROVE A PROCLAMATION DECLARING THE WEEK OF SEPTEMBER 17TH THROUGH THE 23RD OF 2024 AS CONSTITUTION WEEK IN YAVAPAI COUNTY FOR THE NATIONAL SOCIETY OF THE DAUGHTERS OF THE AMERICAN REVOLUTION, GENERAL GEORGE CROOK CHAPTER

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MR. GREGORY WILL YOU READ THE PROCLAMATION.

ABSOLUTELY. THANK YOU CHAIRMAN.

CONSTITUTION WEEK, WHEREAS THE CONSTITUTION OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, THE GUARDIAN OF OUR LIBERTIES, EMBODIES THE PRINCIPLES OF LIMITED GOVERNMENT AND A REPUBLIC DEDICATED TO THE RULE OF LAW.

AND WHEREAS SEPTEMBER 17TH, 2024, MARKS THE 237TH ANNIVERSARY OF THE FRAMING OF THE CONSTITUTION OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA BY THE CONSTITUTION CONVENTION.

AND WHEREAS IT IS FITTING AND PROPER TO ACCORD OFFICIAL RECOGNITION TO THE MAGNIFICENT DOCUMENT AND ITS MEMORABLE, MEMORABLE ANNIVERSARY, TO THE PATRIOTIC CELEBRATION WHICH WILL COMMEMORATE THE OCCASION.

AND WHEREAS UNITED, THE YAVAPAI COUNTY BOARD OF SUPERVISORS ENCOURAGES CITIZENS TO REAFFIRM THE IDEALS EXPRESSED BY THE FRAMERS OF THE CONSTITUTION IN 1787 BY PROTECTING THE FREEDOMS GUARANTEED TO US TO THE CONSTITUTION, AND FULFILLING THE SOLEMN DUTIES THAT COME WITH THOSE FREEDOMS TO SAFEGUARD AND PROTECT OUR COUNTRY, OUR STATE, AND OUR FELLOW CITIZENS.

WHEREAS PUBLIC LAW 915 GUARANTEES ISSUING THE PROCLAMATION EACH YEAR BY THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES, DESIGNATED SEPTEMBER 17TH TO THE 23RD AS CONSTITUTION WEEK.

NOW THEREFORE BE RESOLVED BY THE YAVAPAI COUNTY BOARD OF SUPERVISORS DOES HEREBY RECOGNIZE THE WEEK OF SEPTEMBER 17TH-23RD 2024 AS CONSTITUTION WEEK AND WITNESS THEREOF THE CHAIRMAN OF THE BOARD AND ON BEHALF OF THE YAVAPAI COUNTY BOARD OF SUPERVISORS, SETS HIS AFFIXED HAND AND CAUSES A SEAL OF YAVAPAI COUNTY, ARIZONA TO BE AFFIXED TO THE 4TH DAY OF SEPTEMBER, 2024.

WITH THAT, I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE.

SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. AYE. ANY OPPOSED? IT'S UNANIMOUS. AND I BELIEVE WE HAVE, MR. GREGORY WE HAVE FROM THE DAUGHTERS OF THE AMERICAN REVOLUTION.

WE HAVE TINA BERDAN HERE ALONG WITH MELANIE CARROLL TO RECEIVE THE PROCLAMATION.

MELANIE HERE. YES, THERE SHE IS.

CAN YOU PULL THAT MICROPHONE DOWN JUST A LITTLE BIT? THERE YOU GO. GOOD MORNING BOARD.

GOOD MORNING. I WOULD LIKE TO INTRODUCE MY REGENT, SUSIE NEAL, SHE'S NEW OUR NEW YAVAPAI REGENT, IF I CAN.

WELCOME. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

AND I'M HERE TO SAY THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR RECOGNIZING OUR ORGANIZATION AND THE CONSTITUTION OF AMERICA.

WE APPRECIATE YOUR SUPPORT.

GREAT. THANK YOU.

GOOD MORNING.

I'M MELANIE CARROLL FROM THE GENERAL GEORGE CROOK CHAPTER.

I'M THE VICE REGENT.

AND AS SHE SAID, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR PARTICIPATING IN THIS PROCLAMATION EVENT.

YOU'RE CARRYING ON A TRADITION OF 69 YEARS.

AND I THINK IT IS SO WONDERFUL THAT CONSTITUTION WEEK IS COINCIDING WITH THE POW MIA EVENT, BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, THOSE FOLKS, OF COURSE, HAVE SACRIFICED SO MUCH FOR THE CONSTITUTION, AS DID OUR ANCESTORS.

SO I THINK IT'S VERY FITTING THAT WE'RE DOING ALL OF THIS TODAY.

AND I THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

WELL, LADY, WE'RE GOING TO COME DOWN AND GET A PICTURE OF US ALL WITH YOU ALL.

SO MOVE OVER TO THIS SIDE OVER HERE AND YOU HAVE THE PROCLAMATIONS JAMIE.

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MR. OBERG. YOU CAN READ THE PROCLAMATION, PLEASE.

THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.

PROCLAMATION NATIONAL PREPAREDNESS MONTH.

WHEREAS YAVAPAI COUNTY RECOGNIZES THE IMPORTANCE OF PREPARING ITS HOMES, BUSINESSES AND COMMUNITIES FOR ANY EMERGENCY THAT MAY ARISE, INCLUDING NATURAL DISASTERS, HUMAN CAUSED HAZARDS, AND PUBLIC HEALTH EMERGENCIES.

AND WHEREAS, THE SAFETY AND SECURITY OF ALL OF OUR RESIDENTS IN YAVAPAI COUNTY ARE PARAMOUNT, AND THE PREPARATION FOR SUCH EMERGENCIES, COUPLED WITH KNOWLEDGE AND PRACTICAL STEPS CAN SIGNIFICANTLY REDUCE THE RISKS AND IMPACTS ON OUR LIVES.

AND WHEREAS YAVAPAI COUNTY ENCOURAGES ITS CITIZENS TO TAKE ACTION BY PREPARING EMERGENCY KITS, MAKING AND PRACTICING FAMILY EMERGENCY PLANS, STAYING INFORMED ABOUT THE RISKS IN OUR REGION, VOLUNTEERING AND LOCAL PREPAREDNESS AND RESPONSE ORGANIZATIONS AND GETTING TO KNOW OUR NEIGHBORS.

AND WHEREAS YAVAPAI COUNTY SUBSCRIBES TO THE WHOLE COMMUNITY APPROACH TO EMERGENCY PREPAREDNESS, RECOGNIZING THAT IT TAKES THE COLLECTIVE EFFORT OF EVERY INDIVIDUAL, HOUSEHOLD, BUSINESS AND ORGANIZATION WITHIN OUR COMMUNITY TO EFFECTIVELY PREPARE FOR, RESPOND TO, AND RECOVER FROM ALL TYPES OF EMERGENCIES AND DISASTERS.

AND WHEREAS YAVAPAI COUNTY COMMITS TO FOSTERING A CULTURE OF PREPAREDNESS THROUGH EDUCATION, TRAINING AND COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT, AIMING TO EMPOWER EVERY INDIVIDUAL AND COMMUNITY WITHIN OUR COUNTY TO BE MORE RESILIENT AND SELF-RELIANT IN THE FACE OF EMERGENCIES.

AND WHEREAS WE ACKNOWLEDGE THE COLLABORATIVE EFFORTS BETWEEN GOVERNMENT AGENCIES, BUSINESS, SCHOOLS, SERVICE ORGANIZATIONS AND FAMILIES, WHICH ARE ESSENTIAL TO CREATING A PREPARED AND RESILIENT COMMUNITY.

NOW, THEREFORE, THE YAVAPAI COUNTY BOARD OF SUPERVISORS RECOGNIZES THE MONTH OF SEPTEMBER 2024 AS NATIONAL PREPAREDNESS MONTH AND ENCOURAGES ALL CITIZENS TO RECOGNIZE THE SIGNIFICANCE OF BEING PREPARED FOR EMERGENCIES AND TO TAKE ACTION TOWARD ENHANCING THEIR PREPAREDNESS BY DEVELOPING EMERGENCY PLANS AND KITS.

IN WITNESS THEREOF, THE CHAIRMAN OF THE BOARD, ON BEHALF OF THE YAVAPAI COUNTY BOARD OF SUPERVISORS, SETS HIS HAND AND CAUSES THE SEAL OF THE COUNTY OF ARIZONA OF YAVAPAI, ARIZONA TO BE AFFIXED ON THE 4TH DAY OF SEPTEMBER, 2024.

SIGNED GREG L BROWN, CHAIRMAN.

I MAKE A MOTION TO ACCEPT THIS PROCLAMATION.

SECOND. IT'S BEEN A MOTION AND A SECOND.

ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. MR. CHAIRMAN, I THINK WE HAVE OUR DIRECTOR OF EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT HERE TO ACCEPT THIS PROCLAMATION.

ASHLEY'S COMING DOWN HERE RELUCTANTLY.

ALL RIGHT.

GOOD MORNING. CHAIRMAN, VICE CHAIR, SUPERVISORS.

I'M ASHLEY AHLQUIST, YOUR EMERGENCY MANAGER.

THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK TODAY IN RECOGNITION OF NATIONAL PREPAREDNESS MONTH.

AND THANK YOU FOR RECOGNIZING PREPAREDNESS MONTH WITH THIS PROCLAMATION.

EVERY SEPTEMBER, WE ARE REMINDED OF THE CRITICAL IMPORTANCE OF PREPAREDNESS THAT WE'VE SEEN IN RECENT YEARS, FROM DEVASTATING WILDFIRES TO SEVERE FLOODS.

EMERGENCIES CAN STRIKE WITHOUT WARNING.

WHILE WE OFTEN THINK OF THESE LARGE SCALE DISASTERS, IT IS EQUALLY IMPORTANT TO CONSIDER THE SMALLER, EVERYDAY INCIDENTS THAT CAN DISRUPT OUR LIVES.

DISASTERS HAVE ALSO BECOME MORE FREQUENT AND MORE EXPENSIVE.

BUT PREPAREDNESS IS NOT JUST ABOUT THE BIG DISASTERS, IT'S ALSO ABOUT PLANNING FOR TUESDAY, THE UNEXPECTED PROBLEMS THAT CAN OCCUR ON ANY GIVEN DAY, LIKE POWER OUTAGES OR A CAR BREAKDOWN.

IN YAVAPAI COUNTY WE'VE EXPERIENCED MAJOR WILDFIRES AND FLOODS, BUT PREPARING FOR SMALLER EMERGENCIES, WE CAN ENSURE THAT OUR ABILITY TO MANAGE THE IMMEDIATE CHALLENGES, BUT ALSO STRENGTHEN OUR RESILIENCE AND READINESS FOR LARGER DISASTERS.

ONE OF THE MOST IMPORTANT FACTORS IN SURVIVING AND RECOVERING FROM DISASTERS IS THE STRENGTH OF OUR SOCIAL TIES, NEIGHBORS HELPING NEIGHBORS, CHECKING IN AND SUPPORTING ONE ANOTHER. THESE ARE CRUCIAL THINGS DURING EMERGENCIES.

BUILDING THESE RELATIONSHIPS BEFORE A DISASTER STRIKES CAN MEAN THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN MERELY SURVIVING AND THRIVING.

I'M SORRY. MERELY SURVIVING AND THRIVING DURING THE FACE OF ADVERSITY.

OFTENTIMES, PEOPLE DON'T PREPARE FOR FOUR REASONS THEY DON'T THINK IT WILL HAPPEN.

OR IF IT DOES, THEY DON'T THINK IT WILL HAPPEN TO THEM, OR IF IT DOES HAPPEN TO THEM, IT WON'T BE THAT BAD.

OR IF IT'S REALLY THAT BAD, THERE'S NOTHING THAT THEY CAN DO TO PREVENT IT.

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IT'S ABOUT BUILDING RESILIENCE SO THAT WE CAN RESPOND EFFECTIVELY AND RECOVER QUICKLY.

PREPAREDNESS ALLOWS US TO CREATE A MORE RESILIENT YAVAPAI COUNTY.

PREPAREDNESS LOOKS DIFFERENT FOR EVERYONE.

FAMILIES WITH YOUNG CHILDREN, THOSE WITH ANIMALS, SENIORS AND THOSE WITH DISABILITIES ALL FACE UNIQUE CHALLENGES.

BUT WITH A PERSONALIZED PLAN, WE CAN ALL BE READY.

SO TODAY I CHALLENGE EVERYONE IN THIS ROOM TO REVIEW YOUR PLAN THIS WEEK.

UPDATE IT IF NEEDED, CHECK YOUR EMERGENCY SUPPLIES AND MAKE SURE YOU'RE SIGNED UP FOR EMERGENCY ALERTS AND KNOW YOUR ZONE.

AND IF YOU HAVEN'T ALREADY, CONSIDER VOLUNTEERING TO HELP OTHERS PREPARE AND RESPOND.

IF WE CAN REMEMBER, LUCK IS UNRELIABLE AND HOPE IS NOT A PLAN.

OUR OFFICE IS COMMITTED TO WORKING WITH ALL OF YOU, OUR FIRST RESPONDERS, AND THE COMMUNITY TO CREATE A CULTURE OF PREPAREDNESS BY TAKING SMALL, CONSISTENT STEPS TODAY, WHETHER IT'S FOR LARGE SCALE DISASTERS OR THE EVERYDAY INCIDENT WE FACE, WE CAN ENSURE A SAFER, MORE RESILIENT YAVAPAI COUNTY.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO IS COME DOWN AND GET A QUICK PICTURE AGAIN.

OKAY. AND THEN WE'LL MOVE ON TO THE NEXT ITEM.

ROGER DID YOU WANT TO COME DOWN AS WELL FROM PUBLIC WORKS.

MIC] ALL RIGHT. WITH THAT, WE'RE GOING TO GO ON TO RECOGNITION OF A DETECTIVE, TODD SWAIM, AS A RECIPIENT OF THE 2024 ARIZONA INTERNATIONAL ASSOCIATION OF ARSON INVESTIGATORS FOR THE YEAR, THIS YEAR'S AWARD MR. GREGORY DO YOU HAVE SOME COMMENT YOU WANTED TO MAKE ON THIS? NO, I THINK THE SHERIFF PROBABLY HAS A FEW COMMENTS ON THIS AND CONGRATULATIONS, DETECTIVE SWAIM.

GOOD MORNING, SHERIFF RHOADS.

GOOD MORNING, DAVID RHOADS, YAVAPAI COUNTY SHERIFF.

DETECTIVE TODD SWAIM HERE WITH ME, WHO'S TRYING TO HIDE AND NOT BE SEEN HERE, BUT I MAKE HIM STAND UP HERE WITH ME.

VERY HUMBLE AND UNASSUMING GUY THAT DOES INCREDIBLE WORK FOR YAVAPAI COUNTY FOR PUBLIC SAFETY HERE.

RECENTLY, DETECTIVE SWAIM WAS PRESENTED BY THE INTERNATIONAL ASSOCIATION OF ARSON INVESTIGATORS WITH THEIR ARSON INVESTIGATOR OF THE YEAR AWARD FOR 2024.

AND I'LL GO OVER JUST A COUPLE OF THINGS AS TO WHY HE RECEIVED THAT AWARD.

DETECTIVE SWAIM HAS WORKED OVER 35 ARSON INVESTIGATIONS, I BELIEVE IS THE CORRECT NUMBER.

RIGHT? YES.

AT LEAST 35.

ABOUT 23 TO 25 OF THOSE WERE A LITTLE DIFFICULT TO KNOW IF THEY WERE ARSONS OR NOT, BUT OF THE 15 THAT WERE DEFINITELY ARSON, 13 ARRESTS AND PROSECUTIONS.

SUCCESSFUL PROSECUTIONS.

IS THAT CORRECT? THAT'S CORRECT.

THAT IS AN INCREDIBLE CLEARANCE RATE IN ARSON INVESTIGATION.

AND WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT ARSON, DESTRUCTION OF PROPERTY, ARSON OF OCCUPIED STRUCTURES, PROTECTION OF LIFE, PROTECTION OF THE CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHTS OF PEOPLE TO OWN PROPERTY WITHOUT FEAR OF IT BEING DESTROYED.

ALL OF THE THINGS THAT GO INTO THAT.

AND I CAN TELL YOU THAT IT IS TEDIOUS, HARD, DIFFICULT WORK THAT REQUIRES SOMEBODY WITH A MERCURY IN MIND AND THE ABILITY TO FOLLOW UP AND STICK TO THE INVESTIGATIONS.

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HE'S WELL KNOWN AT THE YAVAPAI COUNTY SHERIFF'S OFFICE AND THE YAVAPAI COUNTY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE, AS WELL AS WELL AS THE COURTS AND THE YAVAPAI COUNTY DEFENSE BAR AS BEING SOMEBODY THAT DOES AN INCREDIBLE JOB.

WE COULD NOT BE MORE HAPPY AND MORE PROUD TO HONOR AND RECOGNIZE HIM PUBLICLY FOR THE WORK THAT HE IS DOING FOR THE CITIZENS OF YAVAPAI COUNTY, EVEN THOUGH HE HATES IT.

BUT THIS IS NECESSARY.

I THINK PEOPLE NEED TO KNOW WHO THE PEOPLE ARE THAT ARE OUT THERE FIGHTING FOR THEM EVERY SINGLE DAY.

DETECTIVE SWAIM IS DEFINITELY ONE OF THOSE PEOPLE.

WE'RE VERY GRATEFUL TO HAVE HIM.

WE WANTED TO COME HERE TO THE BOARD MEETING AND HONOR HIM PUBLICLY FOR THE WORK AND THIS VERY WELL DESERVED AWARD.

THANK YOU, TODD, VERY MUCH FOR ALL THE WORK THAT YOU DO [APPLAUSE].

TODD, WOULD YOU LIKE TO SAY SOME WORDS? I JUST WANT TO SAY THAT THIS ACTUALLY MEANT A LOT GETTING THIS, BECAUSE THERE ARE HUNDREDS OF FIRE INVESTIGATORS IN THE STATE.

SO TO BE HONORED WITH THIS IS IT MEANS A LOT.

SO I'M REALLY APPRECIATIVE TOWARDS IT.

WELL, AND IT'S FROM YOUR PEERS WHICH OBVIOUSLY HOLD YOU IN HIGH REGARD.

THANK YOU. [APPLAUSE] YEAH.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

ALL RIGHT. WE'RE GOING TO MOVE ON TO RECOGNITION OF OUR FINANCE DIRECTOR, CONNIE DEKEMPER, AS THE RECIPIENT OF THE 2024 FINANCE EXECUTIVE EXCELLENCE AWARD FROM THE GOVERNMENT FINANCE OFFICERS COUNCIL OF ARIZONA.

BEFORE WE GO ON TO THIS, I JUST WANT TO MENTION THAT I HEARD ON THE RADIO AND ON TELEVISION SEVERAL TIMES IN THE LAST WEEK, EVERYBODY TALKING ABOUT HOW WELL YAVAPAI COUNTY IS RUN AND HOW IT'S IN SUCH GREAT FINANCIAL SHAPE.

THANK YOU FOR THAT, MR. CHAIRMAN. MAURY THOMPSON, COUNTY MANAGER.

GOOD MORNING. GOOD TO SEE YOU ALL.

YES, I GET TO CONTINUE SOME GOOD NEWS HERE THIS MORNING OF RECOGNIZING SOME OF OUR OUTSTANDING EMPLOYEES HERE IN YAVAPAI COUNTY.

SO I WANT TO SHARE WITH YOU A NOMINATION THAT WAS RECENTLY SUBMITTED TO THE GOVERNMENT FINANCE OFFICERS OF ARIZONA ASSOCIATION FOR A BRAND NEW INAUGURAL AWARD THAT THEY PRESENTED DURING THEIR SUMMER CONFERENCE IN TUCSON LAST MONTH.

AND THAT WAS THE 2024 GFOAZ FINANCE EXCELLENCE AWARD.

SO AGAIN, I WANT TO STRESS, THIS IS THE FIRST TIME THAT THEY HAD GIVEN THIS AWARD.

AND I WANT TO START BY GIVING MY THANKS TO THE COUNTY TREASURER WHO BROUGHT THIS OPPORTUNITY TO MY ATTENTION.

I CONVENED A GROUP OF INTERNAL STAFF TO TALK ABOUT THIS SUBMISSION, AND THEY ALL HELPED.

AND I WANT TO SHARE THE NOMINATION THAT WE MADE FOR CONNIE DEKEMPER, OUR FINANCE DIRECTOR.

I AM NOMINATING CONNIE M DEKEMPER FOR THE GOVERNMENT FINANCE OFFICERS OF ARIZONA FINANCE EXCELLENCE AWARD TO CELEBRATE HER EXTRAORDINARY LEADERSHIP, INITIATIVE AND INNOVATION IN THE PERFORMANCE OF HER DUTIES FOR YAVAPAI COUNTY, ARIZONA.

CONNIE HAS 22 YEARS OF DEDICATION AND COMMITMENT TO PUBLIC SERVICE IN LOCAL GOVERNMENT FINANCE IN WISCONSIN AND ARIZONA.

IN HER CURRENT ROLE AS FINANCE DIRECTOR FOR YAVAPAI COUNTY, CONNIE HAS WORKED TO CREATE A CENTRALIZED PROCUREMENT DIVISION WITHIN HER DEPARTMENT, REPLACING A VERY DECENTRALIZED AND INEFFICIENT SYSTEM, AND SINCE DECEMBER 2023 HAS SERVED AS BUDGET MANAGER AS WELL WHEN THE BUDGET MANAGER UNEXPECTEDLY DEPARTED.

CONNIE NOT ONLY TOOK ON THE ADDITIONAL RESPONSIBILITIES OF BUDGET MANAGER, BUT SHE STREAMLINED THE PROCESS, GARNERING ACCOLADES FROM THE BOARD AND STAFF ALIKE FOR THE 2024-25 BUDGET.

BUT PERHAPS MORE IMPORTANT THAN THE TECHNICAL EXPERTISE CONNIE HAS BROUGHT TO THE COUNTY IS HER REPUTATION OF OPENNESS AND ASSISTANCE TO HER PEERS.

SHE TRULY UNDERSTANDS WHAT IT MEANS TO BE PART OF A HIGH PERFORMING TEAM, SERVING AS A ROLE MODEL TO OTHERS, AND HOW TO APPROACH ALL WITH A SMILE AND A HUMBLE SPIRIT.

IT WAS MY GREAT HONOR TO BE IN TUCSON TO SEE CONNIE RECEIVE THIS AWARD, AND I SAID TO HER, WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HONOR YOU AND NOTE THIS RECOGNITION HERE BEFORE THE BOARD AND YOUR PEERS HERE IN YAVAPAI COUNTY.

SO, CONNIE, WOULD YOU COME FORWARD? [APPLAUSE] SHE WAS HIDING IN THE BACK OF THE ROOM.

YES, CHAIRMAN ANOTHER ONE THAT DETESTS PUBLIC RECOGNITION.

SO THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING ME TO DO THIS.

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SO ONCE AGAIN, CONNIE, THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

[APPLAUSE] I JUST WANTED TO SAY THANK YOU FOR NOMINATING ME AND TAKING THE EFFORT TO MAKE THIS HAPPEN.

BUT I ALSO WANTED TO THANK MY THE FINANCE DEPARTMENT BECAUSE THROUGH ALL OF THIS, THEY REALLY HAD TO STEP UP AND TAKE ON A LOT MORE THAN THEY HAD ORIGINALLY WERE ORIGINALLY DOING, AND THEY REALLY WERE SUCCESSFUL AT THAT.

SO I WANTED TO THANK ALL OF THEM.

AND I REALLY BELIEVE IN MY HEART THAT WE'RE ALL IN THIS TOGETHER.

SO WHEN WE SUPPORT EACH OTHER, WHEN WE HAVE NEEDS, THEN WE ALL SUCCEED.

WE DON'T IT'S NOT JUST ONE PERSON OR ONE DEPARTMENT.

[APPLAUSE] BOARD OF SUPERVISORS ITEM SIX RECOGNITION OF DEVELOPMENT SERVICES DEPARTMENT RECEIVING THE 2024 RURAL DEVELOPMENT OF THE YEAR AWARD FROM THE STATE OF ARIZONA DEPARTMENT OF HOUSING FOR THEIR PROJECT, A HOME OF YOUR OWN.

AND AS JEREMY HERE TODAY.

THERE HE IS.

COME ON UP.

CHAIRMAN, JUST ANOTHER ANOTHER ACCOLADE FOR YAVAPAI COUNTY THAT WE TOOK NOTE OF AND THEY WERE RECENTLY AWARDED.

AND I ALSO WANTED TO MAKE THIS A RECOGNITION HERE AT HOME, AS THEY SAY AS WELL.

SO I'LL TURN IT OVER TO JEREMY AND MARK TO SAY A FEW WORDS ABOUT THIS LATEST RECOGNITION FOR A HOME OF MY OWN.

WELL, THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN AND BOARD MEMBERS, WE REALLY APPRECIATE THIS OPPORTUNITY.

JUST TO JUST A COUPLE OF POINTS, YOU KNOW, JUST FOR THE SAKE OF TIME.

YOU'VE HEARD US BRAG ABOUT OUR HOME OF MY OWN PROGRAM IN THE PAST, AND WE'VE TALKED A LOT ABOUT THAT.

WE'VE RECEIVED A LOT OF SUPPORT FROM YOU, THE BOARD, IN MOVING THIS AND EXPANDING THIS PROGRAM AND MOVING IT FORWARD.

AND WE'VE SEEN A LOT OF POSITIVE RESULTS AT THE AT THE AMERICAN, EXCUSE ME, AT THE ARIZONA HOUSING FORUM TWO WEEKS AGO, WE ACTUALLY WON THE RURAL PROJECT OF THE YEAR, RURAL DEVELOPMENT PROJECT OF THE YEAR AWARD FOR OUR HOME OF MY OWN PROGRAM, AND IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE CAN ALL BE BE REALLY, REALLY VERY PROUD OF.

AND IT'S CERTAINLY A TEAM EFFORT IN DEVELOPMENT SERVICES TO DEVELOP THIS PROJECT, CREATE IT, MOVE IT FORWARD.

AND SO WE'VE SEEN SOME SOME VERY GOOD RESULTS FROM THAT PROGRAM.

AND TO DATE, WE'VE ISSUED 108 OF THOSE HOME PERMITS, 22 OF THOSE HAVE ALREADY RECEIVED THEIR CFOS.

SO 22 FAMILIES, YOU KNOW, LIVING IN OUR HOME OF MY OWN HOUSES IN YAVAPAI COUNTY RIGHT NOW.

AND 51 OF THOSE ARE ARE UNDER CONSTRUCTION AT THIS POINT AS WELL.

SO A LOT OF, A LOT OF GOOD RESULTS FROM OUR HOME OF MY OWN PROGRAM.

WE'VE EXPANDED THE PROGRAM AS YOU KNOW, WE HAVE NOW SIX FLOOR PLANS AVAILABLE FOR THE PUBLIC TO TO LOOK AT, TO DOWNLOAD AND TO, TO BE ABLE TO BUILD THEIR THEIR NEW DREAM HOMES WITH. SO AGAIN, A LOT OF, A LOT OF GOOD THINGS COMING OUT OF THAT.

LAST THING I CAN SHARE WITH YOU TOO, IS WE'VE ENTERED INTO AN AGREEMENT WITH THE TOWN OF PRESCOTT VALLEY TO MAKE THOSE AVAILABLE TO THEIR RESIDENTS AS WELL, AT NO CHARGE TO THEIR RESIDENTS. AND ALSO, WE'RE WE'VE HAD SOME INTEREST FROM THE TOWN OF CLARKDALE AND THE TOWN AND THE CITY OF COTTONWOOD AS WELL.

SO WE LOOK FORWARD TO ENTERING INTO AGREEMENTS WITH THEM TO, TO MAKE THEM AVAILABLE AS WELL.

THAT'S THIS IS HOPEFULLY OUR TOOL IN THE TOOLBOX TO TO HELP ADDRESS THE HOUSING SOLUTIONS.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

APPRECIATE THE RECOGNITION. THANK YOU.

JERRY, MARK, DID YOU WANT TO HAVE ANYTHING TO SAY? JEREMY PRETTY MUCH TOUCHED ON EVERYTHING, BUT IT'S ONE OF THE THINGS I JUST WANT TO GIVE RECOGNITION TO THE BOARD FOR ALLOWING US TO DO THIS PROJECT OVER THE LAST SEVERAL YEARS AND EXPANDING IT HAS MADE A BIG DIFFERENCE.

SO WITH THOSE NUMBER OF PERMITS THAT ARE BEING ISSUED IN THOSE 22 OF THOSE THAT HAVE BEEN ISSUED, THAT HAS MADE A BIG DIFFERENCE IN SOME FAMILIES LIVES IN YAVAPAI COUNTY, AND SOMETHING THAT WE'RE VERY PROUD OF AND OUR TEAM AT DEVELOPMENT SERVICES, WE COULDN'T DO IT WITHOUT OUR TEAM AT DEVELOPMENT SERVICES.

THEY'RE A GREAT GROUP OF EMPLOYEES AND WE'RE VERY PROUD OF THEM.

SO THANK YOU.

THANK YOU. [APPLAUSE] MOVING ON TO PRESENTATIONS, THE

[ PRESENTATIONS]

YCIDA IS GOING TO PRESENT SEVEN NONPROFIT RECIPIENT AWARDS.

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THANK YOU. I JUST NEED TO FIND MY PRESENTATION BECAUSE IT'S ALL MOVED AROUND ON HERE.

SO IF WE HAVE A TECH PERSON THAT COULD HELP ME PULL IT UP, THAT WOULD BE WONDERFUL.

I WAS ALL SET.

I THOUGHT FOR SURE I'D GET IT RIGHT THE FIRST TIME.

[INAUDIBLE] THANK YOU.

A LITTLE DIFFERENT THAN COTTONWOOD.

YES IT IS.

SO, CHAIRMAN BROWN AND VICE CHAIRMAN MICHAELS AND MEMBERS OF THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS, THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO BE HERE TODAY.

I AM MARY CHICOINE I AM CHAIRMAN OF THE BOARD OF THE YAVAPAI COUNTY INDUSTRIAL DEVELOPMENT AUTHORITY.

I WOULD LIKE TO ACKNOWLEDGE THAT WE ALSO HAVE SOME OF OUR OTHER BOARD MEMBERS HERE TODAY.

MICHAEL SCHUMACHER, CHRIS KUKNYO AND KEVIN OSTERMANN AND STEPHEN POLK, WHO IS OUR ATTORNEY.

AND IT GIVES ME GREAT PLEASURE TO AWARD GRANTS TO NONPROFITS IN YAVAPAI COUNTY.

JUST A FEW HIGHLIGHTS ABOUT OUR PROGRAM, IT STARTED IN 2023.

THE FUNDS THAT WE'RE GIVING OUT TODAY WERE ACQUIRED BY THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS, APPROVING BONDS AND BEGINNING FEES, AND WE ARE NOW REINVESTING THEM INTO YAVAPAI COUNTY.

YOU SHOULD ALSO KNOW THAT SEVERAL OF THOSE BONDS WERE NOT IN YAVAPAI COUNTY.

SO WE HAVE BROUGHT FUNDS INTO YAVAPAI COUNTY TO SUPPORT NONPROFITS.

ANNUALLY, WE WILL BE GIVING OUT $20,000 AND HOPEFULLY MORE AS OUR GRANT FUND INCREASES.

WE'RE TRYING TO SPLIT IT EQUALLY BETWEEN BOTH SIDES OF THE MOUNTAIN.

ALSO, THE ORGANIZATIONS THAT WE'RE GIVING THE FUNDS TO HAVE TO MEET SPECIFIC ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT QUALIFICATIONS, WE HAVE GRANT POLICIES.

I'LL SHARE THOSE IN A MINUTE.

AND ALSO, WE ARE GRATEFUL TO THE ARIZONA COMMUNITY FOUNDATION OF YAVAPAI COUNTY.

THEY ACTUALLY ALLOW US TO REVIEW ALL OF THEIR GRANTS.

SO IN PARTNERSHIP WITH THEM, WE REVIEW THEIR GRANTS.

AND WE DON'T HAVE TO HAVE THESE NONPROFITS CREATING ANOTHER GRANT, WHICH I THINK IS REALLY AMAZING HAVING BEEN IN THE NOT FOR PROFIT FIELD AND KNOWING WHAT KIND OF TIME THAT TAKES. SO THIS YEAR WE ARE AWARDING SEVEN GRANTS TO NONPROFITS IN YAVAPAI COUNTY.

OUR REQUIREMENTS ARE THAT THEY FOCUS ON PROGRAMS THAT REVITALIZE THE YAVAPAI COUNTY COMMUNITY IN THE AREAS OF ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, ECONOMIC SUCCESS, INITIATIVES FOR THE WORKING POOR, AND WORKFORCE DEVELOPMENT PROJECTS SUPPORTING SELF-SUFFICIENCY INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO WORK READINESS, JOB PLACEMENT ASSISTANCE, OCCUPATIONAL SKILLS TRAINING, WORKFORCE HOUSING, AND SUSTAINABILITY PRACTICES.

AND NOW IT'S MY PLEASURE TO PRESENT THE CHECKS TO OUR AWARDEES THIS YEAR.

THE FIRST IS SCORE, REPRESENTED BY JOHN DWAN, AS I CALL YOUR NAME PLEASE COME UP.

JOHN DWAN, BETTE BREWER, AND IRVIN "WAYNE" BREWER.

SCORE IS RECEIVING $4,000, THEY ARE EXPANDING THE WORK THEY DO IN YAVAPAI COUNTY.

WHAT THEY DO? ALL OF THESE PEOPLE ARE VOLUNTEERS, PROFESSIONAL EXPERTISE, THEY MENTOR, THEY WORK WITH BUSINESSES AND NONPROFITS, ALL FOR FREE TO MAKE THEM BETTER AND MORE SUCCESSFUL WITHIN YAVAPAI COUNTY.

CONGRATULATIONS. AND IF YOU WOULD JUST GO STAND UNDERNEATH.

THANK YOU.

THE NEXT RECIPIENT IS YAVAPAI REGIONAL TRANSIT, REPRESENTED BY THOMAS STULTZ, THE TRANSIT MANAGER.

THOMAS, ARE YOU HERE? OKAY.

COME ON UP. AND YAVAPAI REGIONAL TRANSIT IS EXPANDING THEIR SERVICES TO RESIDENTS OF YAVAPAI COUNTY AND PROVIDING SERVICES, PARTICULARLY FOR OUR WORKFORCE, TO GET AROUND AND GET TO THEIR JOBS, BUT ALSO FOR ALL MEMBERS OF THE COMMUNITY SO THAT THEY CAN HAVE ACCESS TO RESOURCES IN PRESCOTT AND PRESCOTT VALLEY.

CONGRATULATIONS, THOMAS.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

THANKS, TOM. THE NEXT IS YAVAPAI COUNTY SEARCH AND RESCUE.

WE'RE PROVIDING $4,000 AND THEY ARE REPRESENTED BY JOHN HARRIS, THEIR BOARD PRESIDENT, AND CORINNE HARMON, THEIR EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR.

WE ARE FUNDING FOR THEM CERTIFICATION OF THE VOLUNTEERS THAT WORK WITH THEM.

CURRENTLY, THEIR VOLUNTEERS HAVE TO PAY FOR ALL OF THEIR OWN CERTIFICATIONS, AND THEY ARE ALL VOLUNTEERS.

AND SO WE ARE REALLY PLEASED TO PROVIDE THEM WITH FUNDING THAT CAN HELP SUPPORT THE ORGANIZATION, ACTUALLY PAYING FOR THOSE CERTIFICATIONS AND ADVANCING THE EDUCATION OF THEIR VOLUNTEERS. SO CONGRATULATIONS.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

THE NEXT AWARD IS TO VERDE VALLEY LEADERSHIP REPRESENTED BEN BURKE, WHO'S ON THE BOARD.

THIS ORGANIZATION WAS FOUNDED ABOUT 20 YEARS AGO, I THINK, TO ACTUALLY CULTIVATE AND DEVELOP LEADERS IN THE VERDE VALLEY.

AND THEY HAVE A YEAR LONG PROCESS OF TRAINING AND MEETING WITH LEADERSHIP TO GROW LEADERSHIP IN THE VERDE VALLEY, BOTH IN THE BUSINESS SECTOR AND IN THE NONPROFIT

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NEXT IS THE SEDONA WOMEN, REPRESENTED BY HOLLACE DAVIDS, THE BOARD PRESIDENT, AND ROSEMARY ANDERSON, WHO'S A MEMBER OF THE ORGANIZATION.

WE ARE SUPPORTING THEIR SCHOLARSHIP PROGRAM.

THEY ANNUALLY WORK TO GET SCHOLARSHIPS FOR WOMEN WHO ARE RETURNING TO EDUCATION, WHO COULD NOT FINISH THEIR COLLEGE DEGREES SO THAT THEY CAN ADVANCE THEMSELVES, YOU KNOW, AND PROFESSIONALLY AND PERSONALLY IN THEIR LIFE AND IN THEIR WORK.

THANK YOU. AND THANK YOU FOR SUPPORTING WOMEN'S FURTHER EDUCATION AND BRINGING THINGS BACK TO OUR WONDERFUL COMMUNITY.

YOU'RE WELCOME.

THE NEXT IS SAINT VINCENT DEPAUL SOCIETY OF CHINO VALLEY.

PARDON ME. REPRESENTED BY CATHY CLARK ONCE AGAIN THIS ENTIRE ORGANIZATION, CATHY, WHERE ARE YOU? IS REPRESENTED BY ALL VOLUNTEERS.

AND WHAT'S REALLY EXCITING ABOUT THIS PROGRAM IS THEY HAVE AND WILL BE USING THESE RESOURCES TO PAY FOR RENT, TO PAY FOR UTILITIES, TO ACTUALLY HELP PEOPLE KEEP PEOPLE IN THEIR HOMES. THEY MEET WITH THEM INDIVIDUALLY AND PROVIDE SPECIFIC SERVICES FOR THEM.

CONGRATULATIONS, CATHY.

THANK YOU. AND FINALLY, PRESCOTT AREA SHELTER SERVICES IS RECEIVING $1,500, AND CARMEN FREDERIC, THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR, IS HERE.

THEY DO A WHOLE LOT OF THINGS WORKING WITH THEIR GUESTS IN A PLETHORA OF SERVICES.

I MEAN, ONE OF THE EXCITING SERVICES THAT WE UNDER THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT REALM ARE HAPPY ABOUT IS THE RESUME CONSULTING, THE JOB TRAINING, THE MENTORING THEY DO TO GET THEIR CLIENTS AND THEIR RESIDENTS BACK INTO THE WORKFORCE AND MAKING THEM SELF-SUFFICIENT.

SO CARMEN, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

AND BOARD OF SUPERVISORS, THANK YOU FOR SUPPORTING THE BONDS AND ALLOWING US TO HAVE THIS KIND OF PROGRAM TO SUPPORT SO MANY VOLUNTEERS AND THE WORK THAT NONPROFITS ARE DOING IN YAVAPAI COUNCIL.

WELL, THANK YOU, MARY, FOR ALL THAT YOU DO FOR US AND FOR THESE NONPROFITS AND HELPING THEM MOVE FORWARD IN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.

AND I WANT TO THANK ALL OF THESE FOLKS.

FANTASTIC. WE'RE VERY PROUD OF YOU ALL.

AND GIVE THEM A ROUND OF APPLAUSE.

[APPLAUSE] MR. CHAIRMAN, COME DOWN AND GET A PICTURE WITH YOU.

CAN WE GET A PHOTO? LET'S GET A PHOTO.

AND THIS IS THE PERFECT FUNCTION OF THE INDUSTRIAL DEVELOPMENT BOARD, SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

MIC] ALL RIGHT. I'M GOING AS QUICKLY AS I CAN.

CONSENT AGENDA, ROUTINE ITEMS MAY BE APPROVED BY ONE MOTION.

[ CONSENT AGENDA (Routine items that may all be approved by one motion.) ALL ITEMS ON THE CONSENT AGENDA WERE UNANIMOUSLY APPROVED, WITH THE EXCEPTION OF ITEM NO. 3.]

SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE AYE AYE AYE.

ITEM NUMBER 3, MISS MALLORY.

[3. Board of Supervisors - Approve appointment of Kevin Brown to fill the vacancy on the Merit System Commission. Term set to expire June 30, 2028.]

YOU KNOW, I JUST WANTED TO TAKE A MOMENT TO RECOGNIZE MR. KEVIN BROWN, WHO HAS COME UP TO VOLUNTEER IN A VACANCY IN THE MERIT SYSTEM COMMISSION.

AND THE REASON I REALLY WANTED TO BRING THIS HERE TODAY.

[00:45:01]

HI, KEVIN.

THE COUNTY HAS LOTS OF LOTS OF OPPORTUNITIES FOR CITIZENS TO PARTICIPATE.

AND SO WE APPRECIATE AND WE NEED THE VOLUNTEERS TO JOIN IN AND PARTICIPATE IN OUR WONDERFUL COMMUNITY.

SO, MR. KEVIN BROWN, I HAVE KNOWN YOU FOR MAYBE ABOUT A YEAR AND A HALF NOW.

I THINK WE MET AND I JUST APPRECIATE YOUR CONTRIBUTION AND COMING UP AND AND DOING THIS.

SO THANK YOU.

WELL, THANK YOU FOR PUTTING ME UP FOR THE POSITION, I'M GLAD TO ACCEPT IT.

REALLY EXCITED. MY WIFE IS HERE TOO, DIANE.

AND WE'RE THREE YEARS NEW TO THE AREA, SO WE REALLY LOVE IT HERE AND WANTED TO BECOME MORE INVOLVED.

SO TALKING TO YOU THAT THAT HAPPENED AND AND HERE WE ARE.

SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

YOU'RE WELCOME. THANK YOU.

YOU BET. [APPLAUSE] WITH THAT CHAIRMAN, I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO ACCEPT MR. KEVIN BROWN, AND I'LL SECOND.

ALL IN FAVOR? AYE, AYE. ALL RIGHT.

WE'RE DONE WITH CONSENT.

OKAY. I THINK WE'RE GOING TO TAKE ABOUT A 10, 12, 13 MINUTE BREAK.

WE'LL BE BACK HERE AT 10:00, AND THEN WE'LL START OUR HEARINGS.

SOUNDS GOOD TO ME.

ALL RIGHT, FOLKS, LET'S GET STARTED AGAIN.

WE GOT A LOT OF BUSINESS.

EXCUSE ME, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN.

THANK YOU.

OKAY. MOVING FORWARD TO HEARINGS.

[1. Public Works - Approve Resolution No. 2132 regarding the Abandonment of a portion of the right-of-way for East Squaw Valley Drive, East Trail Road, and an unnamed road, in the Indian Hills subdivision, in Black Canyon City, Arizona. (District 2 - Supervisor Gregory)]

SUPERVISOR GREGORY AND IS THE SUPERVISOR FOR THAT AREA.

AND ROGER MCCORMICK.

PUBLIC WORKS.

YEAH. GOOD MORNING, CHAIRMAN BROWN, VICE CHAIR MICHAELS AND MEMBERS OF THE BOARD.

MY NAME IS ROGER MCCORMICK, I AM YOUR PUBLIC WORKS DIRECTOR.

AND BEFORE YOU TODAY WE HAVE A HEARING ITEM TO APPROVE RESOLUTION ITEM RESOLUTION NUMBER 2132.

AND THIS IS REGARDING ABANDONMENT OF THREE SEPARATE LOCATIONS.

ONE IS ON EAST SQUAW VALLEY DRIVE, EAST TRAIL ROAD, AND THEN AN UNNAMED ROAD ADJACENT TO THE PROPERTY IN THE INDIAN HILLS SUBDIVISION LOCATED IN BLACK CANYON CITY.

AND THIS IS IN DISTRICT TWO, SUPERVISOR GREGORY'S DISTRICT.

IN ACCORDANCE WITH RESOLUTION NUMBER 2046 AND A.R.S 28-6701, THE APPLICANT, RICK PERRY, HAS SUBMITTED A PETITION FOR ABANDONMENT OF A PORTION OF THE RIGHT OF WAY OF EAST SQUAW VALLEY DRIVE, TRAIL ROAD, AND AN UNNAMED ROAD, AND I'LL BE SHOWING A MAP OF OF THAT IN JUST A MOMENT.

THE REASON FOR THE PETITION IS TO INCREASE THE SIZE OF THE ABUTTING PARCELS, 502-17-042 AND 502-17-052 IN CONJUNCTION IN CONJUNCTION WITH A PLAN TO DEVELOP THE PROPERTY IN THE FUTURE.

THIS PROPOSED ABANDONMENT WOULD ALLOW THE PETITIONER TO ACCOMPLISH HIS GOAL OF INCREASING HIS LOT SIZE IN CONJUNCTION WITH THE PLAN TO DEVELOP THE PROPERTY, NOT DENY ANY OTHER PROPERTY OWNER IN THE AREA LEGAL ACCESS TO HIS OR HER PROPERTY, AND NOT INTERFERE WITH ANY CURRENT OR FUTURE COUNTY ROAD MAINTENANCE PLANS IN THE AREA.

SO THE PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT DOES NOT OBJECT TO GRANTING THE PROPERTY TO THE PETITIONER.

THE RELIEF IS REQUESTED BY APPROVING NUMBER RESOLUTION NUMBER 2132, WHICH IS BEFORE YOU.

SO IN ORDER FOR THIS PROPOSED ABANDONMENT TO BE COMPLETED IN A TIMELY MANNER, THE PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT RECOMMENDS THAT ANY GRANT OF RELIEF BE CONDITIONED UPON MR. PERRY COMPLETING THE ABANDONMENT PROCESS WITHIN 120 DAYS OF THE BOARD APPROVAL OR THE SET APPROVAL SHALL BE RESCINDED, AND MR. PERRY SHALL BE REQUIRED TO TO DO A NEW PETITION.

OKAY. SO THIS IS THE THE GENERAL VICINITY MAP OF THE AREA.

YOU SEE BLACK CANYON CITY WITH I-17 GOING THROUGH IT.

IF YOU CAN SEE RIGHT IN THIS AREA WHERE THE STAR IS, IS WHERE THE PROPERTY IS LOCATED.

THIS IS THE RESTAURANT THAT'S JUST OFF OF I-17, JUST NORTH OF THE PROPERTY.

THAT'S ABOVE THE PROPERTY TOO, IS IT NOT? YES IT IS. YEP.

[00:50:01]

THE PROPERTY OWNER OWNS THIS PARCEL HERE 042, AND THIS ONE RIGHT HERE 052.

THE PROPOSAL IS FOR TO ABANDON HALF OF THE RIGHT OF WAY FOR SQUAW VALLEY DRIVE, WHICH IS ON THE SOUTHERN BORDER.

THE RIGHT OF WAY WIDTH THERE IS 50FT WIDE.

THE ABANDONMENT WOULD BE 25 OF THAT FEET, SO IT WOULD LEAVE HALF OF THE THE RIGHT OF WAY STILL THERE.

ON THE WEST SIDE OVER HERE, THE SAME THING.

THIS IS THE UNNAMED ROAD THAT I WAS TALKING ABOUT EARLIER AND SO THIS UNNAMED ROAD HERE WOULD BE ABLE TO SAME THING 25FT AND 25FT AND THEN LEAVING 25FT OVER HERE TO THIS ADJACENT PARCEL ON THIS SIDE.

ON THE NORTH SIDE TRAIL ROAD.

THE RIGHT OF WAY IS QUITE A BIT SKINNIER.

IT'S HALF THE AMOUNT OF SIZE, IT'S 25FT WIDE.

SO THE ABANDONMENT WOULD BE 12.5FT OF THAT.

SO IT WOULD LEAVE A 12.5FT PIECE ON THE NORTH SIDE HERE FOR ACCESS TO THESE PARCELS.

SO IT WOULD BE SIGNIFICANT, SIGNIFICANTLY DIMINISHED HALF THE SIZE, BASICALLY THE, THE WIDTH OF A ONE LANE ROAD, TO GO BACK AND FORTH TO THAT, THESE PROPERTIES ON THE BACK SIDE HERE ADJACENT TO I-17.

SO OF THE PROPERTIES THAT ARE ADJACENT TO THESE PROPOSED ABANDONMENTS, THE ONES WITH THE GREEN STARS DID SIGN THE PETITION FOR THE ABANDONMENT.

THE ONES WITH THE RED STARS, YOU CAN SEE DID PROVIDE LETTERS OF OPPOSITION TO THE PROPOSED ABANDONMENT.

THIS IS JUST AN AERIAL IMAGERY OF THE SITE THAT KIND OF SHOWS THE UNPAVED ROADS.

I GUESS YOU COULD CALL THEM, OR TRAIL SYSTEMS THAT ARE THROUGH THE AREA THAT ARE CURRENTLY ACCESSING THIS PUBLIC RIGHT OF WAY.

THIS RIGHT OF WAY IS NOT MAINTAINED BY THE COUNTY.

IT'S NOT SUBJECT TO OUR [INAUDIBLE] ORDINANCE, AND WE DO NOT PLAN TO IMPROVE ROADS THROUGH THIS AREA.

AND SO THAT THIS JUST KIND OF GIVES A PICTURE OF, OF HOW THAT IS IN THIS CONDITION.

AND THAT'S THE END OF MY PRESENTATION.

IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS IN REGARDS TO IT, I'D BE HAPPY TO ASK.

ALL RIGHT. WE HAVE A NUMBER OF PEOPLE THAT WANT TO SPEAK ON THE ISSUE.

SO ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR ROGER? AND THEN WE'LL GO AHEAD AND GO TO PUBLIC PARTICIPATION.

MISS KATIE FIZZ.

FIZZ INDICATES THAT SHE IS OPPOSED TO THIS ISSUE.

HI, GOOD MORNING I LIVE ON SQUAW VALLEY DRIVE HOLD ON ONE SECOND.

I'M SORRY. I BEG YOUR PARDON.

ROGER, STAY CLOSE, BECAUSE WE MAY NEED YOU.

AND ALSO, COULD YOU HAVE SOMEBODY PUT THE MAP BACK UP SO WE ALL KNOW WHAT WE'RE DEALING WITH.

I'M SORRY, MA'AM. NO, THAT'S OKAY.

I LIVE ON SQUAW VALLEY DRIVE, WHICH, AS HE MENTIONED, IS NOT MAINTAINED BY THE COUNTY.

AS A COMMUNITY MEMBER IN BLACK CANYON CITY, I MUST FULLY EXPRESS MY OPPOSITION TO THIS CHANGE IN ALL REGARDS.

WE ARE ACTIVE MEMBERS IN THIS COMMUNITY WHO NOT ONLY USE THESE ROADS FOR DAILY COMMUTES TO ACCESS OUR HOMES, BUT IN ADDITION TO BIKING, HIKING, WALKING, AND THE USE OF MULTI-PURPOSE, LEGAL AND ON AND OFF THE ROAD VEHICLES.

LIKE I SAID, THE ROAD THAT HE MENTIONED IS NOT MAINTAINED, IS NOT IT HAS SEEN BETTER DAYS.

SO CONSIDERING WHAT MIGHT BE GOING ON IN THOSE TWO PARCELS, I'M NOT QUITE SURE THAT WHAT'S SET OUT RIGHT NOW CAN SUSTAIN 50, 60, 100 MORE CARS COMING IN.

WE ENJOY THE OUTDOORS, AS DO OUR NEIGHBORS.

AND IN MOVING FORWARD WITH THIS CHANGE, YOU MIGHT BE SINGLE HANDEDLY FORCING THE PEOPLE OF OUR CITY OUT OF A LIFESTYLE WE HAVE WORKED HARD TO ACHIEVE.

THROUGHOUT OUR TIME IN BLACK CANYON CITY.

MY HUSBAND'S LIVED THERE FOR ALMOST 40 YEARS.

WE'VE NOTICED AND WELCOME THE INCREASED TRAFFIC, WHICH SHOWS INCREASING POPULARITY AND THE INCREASE OF REVENUE TO OUR THRIVING CITY.

WHAT'S GOOD FOR BLACK CANYON IS GOOD FOR BLACK CANYON, BUT I'M NOT QUITE SURE THAT THIS IS A GOOD MOVE FOR BLACK CANYON.

WE KINDLY AND RESPECTFULLY ASK YOU TO PLEASE RETAIN OUR ROADS.

AND THEY ARE REQUIRED TO CONTINUE CALM, SAFE AND SUSTAINABLE LIFE IN BLACK CANYON CITY.

SO THANK YOU.

THANK YOU. JACK MONTY.

JACK MONTY. JACKIE.

JACKIE. OKAY.

JACKIE. SORRY.

THAT'S OKAY, EVERYBODY DOES IT.

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AND I THINK IT'S PRETTY ARROGANT THAT SOMEONE COULD COME ALONG AND THINK THAT THEY CAN JUST, YOU KNOW, TAKE IT AWAY.

WE USE THESE ROADS EVERY DAY.

WE USE THEM FOR OFF ROADING.

AND I JUST WANT TO SAY THAT I'M VERY OPPOSED TO THIS IDEA.

PRETTY SIMPLE. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU. VICTORIA MCCARTHY.

GOOD MORNING, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN.

OKAY, I JUST WANT TO SAY I'M 100% OPPOSED TO THE ABANDONMENT OF THE RIGHT OF WAY ON TRAIL ROAD, SQUAW VALLEY ROAD, AND THE UNNAMED ROAD IN BLACK CANYON CITY.

THESE ROADS ARE USED BY PEOPLE, INCLUDING MYSELF.

PLEASE ALLOW US TO KEEP THESE ROADS.

I'VE LIVED ON TRAIL ROAD FOR FIVE YEARS.

I'M ACTUALLY THE PARCEL RIGHT NEXT DOOR, WITH THE TWO STARS.

LET'S SEE I'VE LIVED THERE FOR FIVE YEARS.

THERE'S DAILY FOOT AND VEHICLE TRAFFIC ON THESE ROADS.

THEY ARE NOT ABANDONED.

I SEE PEOPLE DRIVING THESE VEHICLES, DRIVING IN THEIR VEHICLES DAILY SIDE BY SIDE, WALKING, BIKING AND RIDING HORSES ON THESE ROADS.

THERE HAS BEEN AN INCREASE OF TRAFFIC ON THESE ROADS, AND I HAVE HAD SEVERAL CONVERSATIONS WITH MR. PERRY AND HIS TEAM, AND THEY ARE AWARE THAT THEY ARE BEING USED.

TO ALLOW THE ABANDONMENT WOULD AFFECT THESE PARCELS AND OUR TOWN, ALL OF THOSE THAT ARE SURROUNDING IT WOULD DEFINITELY AFFECT ANY RESALE VALUE OF ANY OF THE SURROUNDING PROPERTIES, ESPECIALLY BECAUSE I LIVE ON TRAIL ROAD.

IT IS A HALF WIDTH ROAD ALREADY.

THE EASEMENT IS 25.

THE ROAD ITSELF MAY BE 12FT.

SO THERE'S THERE'S YOU CAN'T TAKE THAT AWAY FROM THERE.

LET ME ASK YOU A QUESTION.

AND THE OTHER ONES THAT HAVE ALREADY GONE UP AND TESTIFIED.

ARE WE PRIMARILY TALKING ABOUT TRAIL ROAD? NO. THEY LIVE ON SQUAW VALLEY AND OR SQUAW [INAUDIBLE] I LIVE ON SQUAW VALLEY DRIVE AND I LIVE ON TRAIL ROAD.

OKAY.

LET'S SEE IT WOULD EFFECT PARCEL 502-09-005, WHICH ADDRESSES 19600 EAST TRAIL ROAD, THERE WOULD BE NO ACCESS, 502-170-43 SAME.

502-17-054, 19671 EAST SQUAW VALLEY.

AND THEN DOING MY RESEARCH.

800-17-078Q WHICH HAPPENS TO BE SQUAW VALLEY, IT'S A COUNTY ROAD.

THE COUNTY DOES OWN THAT ROAD.

MY RESEARCH LEADS ME TO BELIEVE THAT THERE THIS ROAD MUST STAY OPEN AND YOU GUYS DON'T HAVE THE AUTHORITY TO CLOSE IT OFF.

PLEASE DON'T MAKE IT ANY MORE DIFFICULT FOR US IN OUR TOWN TO NAVIGATE THROUGH THE HOLIDAY TRAFFIC ISSUES.

THIS WEEKEND WITH THE HOLIDAY WAS ABSOLUTELY CRAZY.

THERE WERE PEOPLE ALL DAY LONG GOING UP AND DOWN TRAIL ROAD AND SQUAW VALLEY.

THAT'S ALL. THANK YOU.

I HAVE A MR. JACOB EDGMON, AND HE DOES NOT WISH TO SPEAK.

HE SAYS HE LIVES ON TRAIL ROAD, AND HE SAYS PEOPLE USE THAT ROAD ON A DAILY BASIS AS WELL AS THE OTHER ROADS INVOLVED.

A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS, ROGER.

SO IT'S YOUR UNDERSTANDING THAT THESE FOLKS, MOST OF THEM ARE CONCERNED WITH THE USE OF ONE ROAD AT THE VERY AT THE NORTHERN SIDE, THAT IS, WHICH ROAD IS THAT? SO THE ROAD ON THE NORTH SIDE IS CALLED TRAIL ROAD.

OKAY. AND THAT DOES HAVE A SMALLER RIGHT OF WAY.

RIGHT NOW IT'S 25FT.

SO ABANDONMENT OF THAT RIGHT OF WAY WOULD LEAVE 12.5 AS ACCESS ACROSS THERE.

SO IT WOULD BE ESSENTIALLY A ONE LANE ACCESS FROM THAT POINT.

ALMOST A TRAIL.

EXCUSE ME MA'AM.

MR. GREGORY.

HAS EVERYBODY SPOKE? YES. OKAY.

WITH THAT, I'LL MAKE A MOTION.

EXCUSE ME. EXCUSE ME.

I'M SORRY. I APOLOGIZE, SUPERVISOR.

I JUST NEED TO REFERENCE TO THE BOARD THAT GIVEN THE TESTIMONY PRESENTED TODAY, IF THE BOARD WERE TO CONSIDER ABANDONMENT OF THESE ROADS BY STATUTE, THE BOARD HAS TO DETERMINE THAT THE ROAD IS NOT NECESSARY FOR PUBLIC USE.

[01:00:06]

THANK YOU. IS IT ELIGIBLE? FOR PUBLIC USE RIGHT NOW IT IS, YEAH.

I MEAN, IT'S IT'S DEDICATED TO THE PUBLIC AND IT'S AVAILABLE FOR USE RIGHT NOW.

SO DID WE DO ANY KIND OF TRAFFIC STUDY? NO, NOT NOT WITH THIS, NO.

SO WE DIDN'T DO A CAR COUNT OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT ON THAT PARTICULAR ROAD? CHAIRMAN, COULD I ASK A QUESTION? JUST A SECOND. JUST A SECOND, MR. GREGORY. WITH THAT, I'M GOING TO MAKE A MOTION TO DENY THE ABANDONMENT.

SECOND. ALL RIGHT.

GOT A MOTION AND A SECOND.

ALL IN FAVOR? AYE, AYE.

THANK YOU.

IT'S NOT APPROVED.

YOU'RE DONE.

OKAY. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT.

[2. Development Services - Recommend approval to the Arizona Department of Liquor Licenses and Control of series 006 Bar Liquor License Application # 301034 without protest, submitted by Cindy Elaine Payne for Pig Palace LLC, located at 34441 South Old Black Canyon Highway, Black Canyon City, AZ 85324 (District 2 - Supervisor Gregory)]

SUBMITTED BY CINDY ELAINE PAYNE FOR PIG PALACE, LLC.

LOCATED AT 34441 SOUTH OLD BLACK CANYON CITY IN MR. GREGORY'S DISTRICT, SO, MARK.

GOOD MORNING, CHAIR MARK LUSSON, ASSISTANT DIRECTOR FOR DEVELOPMENT SERVICES.

EVERYTHING IS AS READ AS FOR THIS APPLICATION.

DEVELOPMENT SERVICES HAS NOT RECEIVED ANY LETTERS OF SUPPORT OR OPPOSITION, AND I'M MORE THAN HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MIGHT HAVE.

MR. GREGORY. WITH THAT, I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE.

SECOND. A MOTION HAS BEEN MADE AND SECONDED.

ALL IN FAVOR? AYE, AYE. IT'S APPROVED.

DEVELOPMENT SERVICES RECOMMENDED APPROVAL OF ARIZONA DEPARTMENT OF LIQUOR LICENSES AND CONTROL SERIES 12 RESTAURANT LIQUOR LICENSE APPLICATION 298980 WITHOUT

[3. Development Services - Recommend approval to the Arizona Department of Liquor Licenses and Control of series 12 Restaurant Liquor License Application # 298980 without protest, submitted by Camila Alarcon for Crown King Depot located at 7260 Main Street, Crown King, AZ 86343 (District 2 - Supervisor Gregory)]

CROWN KING DEPOT, LOCATED AT 7260 MAIN STREET IN CROWN KING, MR. GREGORY. DO WE HAVE ANY OPPOSITION? I DON'T HAVE ANY.

I KNOW, SIR, DEVELOPMENT SERVICES HAS NOT RECEIVED ANY OPPOSITION.

WITH THAT, I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE.

SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE, AYE.

UNANIMOUS. CONGRATULATIONS.

OKAY. ITEM NUMBER FOUR DEVELOPMENT SERVICES APPROVE A PERMANENT AND TRANSFERABLE USE PERMIT TO ALLOW FOR THE ADDITION OF A SECOND RESIDENCE TO AN EXISTING

[4. Development Services - Approve a permanent and transferrable Use Permit to allow for the addition of a second residence to an existing garage and a waiver of Section 516; Density District 12, to grant a reduction of the required 25-foot rear setback by 18 feet, to allow for a rear setback of 7 feet, for the second residence, on an approximate 21,780 sq. ft. parcel, in the R1L-12 zoning district, subject to the conditions of approval. Project Name: Lain Second Residence Use Permit; Owner(s): Kenneth Lee & Lisa Joy Lain; Applicant/Agent: Trinidee Shelton & Associates, LLC; APN: 115-06-053; PLA24-000050. The property is located in the Forbing Park subdivision, in Prescott, Arizona. Staff: Susan Hébert (District 1 - Supervisor Oberg)]

THE PROJECT NAME IS LAIN SECOND RESIDENCE USE PERMIT.

KENNETH LEE AND LISA JOY LAIN ARE THE APPLICANTS.

THEIR AGENT IS TRINIDEE SHELTON AND ASSOCIATES.

THE APN IS 11 OR 115-06-053 PLA24-000050. THE PROPERTY IS LOCATED IN THE FORBING PARK SUBDIVISION IN PRESCOTT. SUSAN HÉBERT IS THE ONE THAT'S GOING TO MAKE THE PRESENTATION ON THIS.

AND THIS IS IN MR. OBERG'S DISTRICT.

GOOD MORNING, CHAIRMAN BROWN, MEMBERS OF THE BOARD.

I'M SUSAN HÉBERT, PLANNER WITH YAVAPAI COUNTY DEVELOPMENT SERVICES, AND THIS IS THE LAIN SECOND RESIDENCE USE PERMIT.

THERE WAS A UNANIMOUS VOTE FROM THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF THIS APPLICATION.

IT'S IN DISTRICT ONE UNDER THE JURISDICTION OF SUPERVISOR OBERG.

IT'S LOCATED IN FORBING PARK, AN UNINCORPORATED AREA WHICH IS ADJACENT TO THE CITY OF PRESCOTT ON THE WEST SIDE.

THE PROPERTY ZONED R1L-12 RESIDENTIAL SINGLE FAMILY, LIMITED TO SITE, BUILT ONLY, WITH A MINIMUM 12,000 SQUARE FOOT LOT SIZE AND SO ARE THE SURROUNDING PARCELS.

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THIS LOT IS 21,780FT².

IN THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN THIS PARCEL HAS A RESIDENTIAL DESIGNATION OF 0 TO 1 DWELLING UNIT PER ACRE, BUT ALL OF THE PROPERTIES IN THIS AREA ARE TYPICALLY LESS THAN ONE ACRE. THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN LAND USE GOALS DO STATE OR ENCOURAGE PUBLIC PARTICIPATION IN HAVING THE APPLICANT WORK WITH THE COMMUNITY, WHICH THEY ARE DOING.

THIS IS THE SITE PLAN SHOWING ALL THE EXISTING STRUCTURES.

YOU CAN SEE IN FRONT.

THIS IS THE PRIMARY RESIDENCE.

AND THEN BEHIND THERE WE HAVE THE GUEST HOME AND CARPORT.

AND THEN IN THE BACK OF THE PROPERTY IS THIS PROPOSED SECOND RESIDENCE.

HERE'S AN AERIAL VIEW SHOWING THAT PROPOSED SECOND RESIDENCE.

AND THEN LOOKING IN SOME DIFFERENT DIRECTIONS.

THE PRIMARY RESIDENCE WAS CONSTRUCTED IN 1944.

SO BEFORE OUR ORDINANCE THE CARPORT AND GUEST HOME WERE CONSTRUCTED SHORTLY AFTER.

IN 2000, A TWO STORY DETACHED GARAGE AND OFFICE WAS PERMITTED THROUGH DEVELOPMENT SERVICES NEAR THAT REAR CORNER OF THE PROPERTY.

THE PREVIOUS OWNER LATER CONVERTED THIS STRUCTURE INTO HABITABLE SPACE WITHOUT A PERMIT.

THE LAIN'S, THE APPLICANTS PURCHASED THE PROPERTY IN JANUARY 2022.

THEY HAVE SAID THEY WERE UNAWARE THAT THE IMPROVEMENTS WERE NOT PERMITTED, AND CONTINUED RENTING THE STRUCTURE AS HABITABLE SPACE.

DURING THE PROCESS OF UPGRADING THE STRUCTURE LAST YEAR, THE OWNERS WERE REPORTED TO DEVELOPMENT SERVICES AND PLACED IN VIOLATION IN APRIL OF 2023.

THEY ARE REQUESTING A USE PERMIT TO ALLOW THIS EXISTING STRUCTURE TO BE USED AS A SECOND RESIDENCE, IN ORDER TO OBTAIN THE APPROPRIATE BUILDING PERMITS.

THE APPLICANT SENT OUT A NOTIFICATION LETTER TO ALL THE NEIGHBORING PARCELS WITHIN 300FT IN MARCH.

THEY DIDN'T RECEIVE ANY RESPONSES.

DEVELOPMENT SERVICES ALSO SENT OUT NOTIFICATIONS AND POSTED AN ONLINE SURVEY IN JULY, BUT WE HAVEN'T RECEIVED RESPONSES EITHER.

STAFF HAS NO CONCERNS WITH THIS USE PERMIT APPLICATION, AND IN SUMMARY, THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING A PERMANENT AND TRANSFERABLE USE PERMIT TO ALLOW FOR THE CONVERSION OF THE GARAGE AND OFFICE TO A SECOND RESIDENCE, WITH A WAIVER OF SECTION 516 DENSITY DISTRICTS TO GRANT A REDUCTION OF THE REQUIRED 25 FOOT REAR SETBACK BY 18FT, ALLOWING FOR A REAR SETBACK OF 7 FEET FOR THAT SECOND RESIDENCE.

THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION DOES RECOMMEND THIS APPLICATION FOR APPROVAL, AND THE STANDARD CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL WERE NOT AMENDED DURING THE MEETING.

SO THAT CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION.

THE APPLICANTS WEREN'T AVAILABLE TODAY, BUT THEIR AGENT, TRINIDEE SHELTON, IS HERE.

IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, AS AM I.

I HAVE NO GREEN SHEETS ON THIS ITEM.

DO YOU MADAM CLERK? NO. ANYBODY WISH TO SPEAK IN REGARD TO THE ITEM NUMBER FIVE? NO. MR. GREGORY. WELL, THIS IS IN YOUR DISTRICT AREA, I BELIEVE.

YES, MR. CHAIRMAN.

SINCE P&Z HAD UNANIMOUS AGREEMENT ON THIS AND NOBODY HAS INDICATED OPPOSITION TO IT, I MAKE A MOTION TO GO AHEAD AND ACCEPT THIS CHANGE. SECOND, SECONDED BY MR. GREGORY. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. ITEM NUMBER FOUR IS PASSED.

NUMBER FIVE, USE PERMIT AMENDMENT TO ALLOW FOR AN EXPANSION OF THE GUNSITE ACADEMY TO ACCOMMODATE TO UP TO 4000 STUDENTS ANNUALLY ANNUALLY,

[5. Development Services - Approve a Use Permit Amendment to allow for an expansion of Gunsite Academy to accommodate up to four thousand (4,000) students annually, including the construction of several new buildings and facilities, subject to the conditions of approval. Owner: Asgard Place LLC; Applicant/Agent: Michael Taylor Architects Inc – Michael Taylor; Project Name: Gunsite Use Permit Amendment; PLA24-000042; APN: 306-40-219A, -015C, -015F, -015Z, -221J, and 306-47-001A; The property is located in the community of Paulden, Arizona. Staff: Susan Hébert (District 4 - Supervisor Brown)]

OWNER IS ASGARD PLACE, LLC.

APPLICANT IS MICHAEL TAYLOR ARCHITECTS MICHAEL TAYLOR.

PROJECT NAME GUNSITE USE PERMIT AMENDMENT AND POA 24-000042 APN 306-40-219A, -015C, -015F, -015Z, AS IN ZEBRA, - 22IJ AS IN JOHN AND 306-47-001A AS IN ATOM.

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STAFF IS SUSAN HÉBERT, SUSAN.

THANK YOU. HOW WAS THE P&Z RESULT? THE P&Z VOTED FOR A UNANIMOUS RECOMMENDATION FOR APPROVAL.

WAS IT UNANIMOUS OR? YES, IT WAS.

OKAY. I'M GOING TO TRY AND CUT THIS SHORT IF POSSIBLE.

DO WE HAVE ANY OPPOSED, MADAM CLERK? NO, SIR. THE BOARD RECEIVED ONE LETTER IN FAVOR.

OKAY. DO YOU HAVE ANY IN OPPOSITION? WE DID HAVE SIX RESPONSES ON OUR ONLINE SURVEY.

JUST FOUR HOUSEHOLDS.

SO TWO OF THOSE HOUSEHOLDS WERE IN OPPOSITION.

AND THEN AT THE P&Z MEETING ONE GREEN SHEET WAS SUBMITTED.

THE PERSON WHO SUBMITTED IT WAS NOT THERE TO SPEAK, BUT THEY WERE IN OPPOSITION.

WAS THEY WERE THEY ONE OF THE TWO? NO. OKAY.

IS THERE ANYBODY HERE IN OPPOSITION TO THIS THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK? NO. THEN I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE USE PERMIT.

SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE, AYE.

TRIED TO GET YOU OUT OF HERE AS SOON AS I COULD.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

OKAY. ITEM NUMBER SIX APPROVE A USE PERMIT AMENDMENT TO ALLOW FOR THE ON SITE OPERATION OF A MOBILE FOOD TRUCK ON THE EXISTING WINERY PROPERTY,

[6. Development Services - Approve a Use Permit Amendment to allow for the onsite operation of a mobile food truck on the existing winery property, subject to the conditions of approval. Owner: Carruthers Wines LLC & Gary & Nathalie Carruthers; Applicant/Agent: Permit Pushers, LLC by James Gardner; Project Name: Carruthers Oak Creek Vineyards Use Permit Amendment; PLA24-000066; APN: 407-29-029M; The property is located in the Page Springs area of the community of Cornville, Arizona. Staff: Stephanie Johnson (District 2 - Supervisor Gregory)]

THE OWNER, CARRUTHERS WINES LLC, AND GARY AND NATHALIE, I GUESS, CARRUTHERS.

APPLICANT AGENT PERMIT PUSHERS LLC BY JAMES GARDNER.

PROJECT NAME IS CARUTHERS OAK CREEK VINEYARDS USE PERMIT AMENDMENT PLA 24-000066 APN 407-29-029M, AS IN MARY.

THE PROPERTY IS LOCATED AT PAGE SPRINGS AREA OF THE COMMUNITY OF CORNVILLE, STEPHANIE, AND IT'S IN MR. GREGORY'S DISTRICT.

GOOD MORNING. CHAIRMAN.

MEMBERS OF THE BOARD.

I'M STEPHANIE JOHNSON, PLANNER WITH YAVAPAI COUNTY DEVELOPMENT SERVICES, AND I'M HERE TO PRESENT TO YOU THE USE PERMIT AMENDMENT REQUEST FOR THE OAK CREEK FOR THE CARRUTHERS AND THE OAK CREEK VINEYARD WINERY.

THIS MATTER WAS HEARD GOT A LOT GOING ON TODAY.

SO, MR. GREGORY, DO YOU KNOW OF ANYBODY OPPOSED TO THIS? I HAVE NO KNOWLEDGE ON HOW THE P&Z BOARD VOTED ON THIS.

UNANIMOUS. UNANIMOUS? THEY WERE ALMOST UNANIMOUS.

IT WAS 9 TO 1. WE DID HAVE ONE, COMMISSIONER THAT WAS IN ABSTENTION.

I WAS TOLD NINE. IT WAS UNANIMOUS, SO IT WAS NEARLY UNANIMOUS.

NOBODY WAS OPPOSED TO IT.

THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION DID RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF THIS APPLICATION.

THERE HAVE BEEN NO COMMENTS OF OPPOSITION RECEIVED VIA EMAIL, VIA SURVEY123 OR ANY OTHER METHOD.

WE HAVE RECEIVED SEVERAL LETTERS OF SUPPORT, BUT NOT OPPOSITION.

HAS THE CLERK, HAS THE CLERK RECEIVED ANYTHING? NO, SIR. NO COMMENTS WERE RECEIVED ON THIS.

NO GREEN SHEETS. ANYBODY WISH HERE TO SPEAK ON THE SUBJECT? NO. WITH THAT, I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE.

SECOND. SECONDED BY MISS MICHAELS.

ALL IN FAVOR? AYE.

AYE. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

OKAY. NUMBER SEVEN, APPROVE A TEXT AMENDMENT TO THE ZONING ORDINANCE OF SECTION 501, ACCESSORY USES AND STRUCTURES TO ADD SMALL SCALE SOLAR EQUIPMENT USAGE

[7. Development Services - Approve a text amendment to the Zoning Ordinance Section 501 Accessory Uses and Structures to add small-scale solar equipment usage standards, and to add a new Section 608 Solar Facilities with requirements, standards, and procedures to establish utility-scale solar facilities. Project Name: Solar Facilities – Sections 501 & 608 Zoning Ordinance Amendment; PLA24-000042; Staff: Matt Blake (All Districts)]

PROJECT NAME SOLAR FACILITIES- SECTIONS 501 AND 608 ZONING ORDINANCE AMENDMENT PLA 24-000042.

MR. BLAKE IS HERE FROM DEVELOPMENT SERVICES.

HAS BEEN WORKING ON THIS FOR SOME TIME.

FOR THOSE OF YOU FOLKS THAT ARE HERE FOR THIS ITEM SPECIFICALLY, THIS DOES NOT RELATE TO HOMES.

THIS IS ONLY COMMERCIAL GRADE, UTILITY SIZE TYPE SOLAR PROJECTS.

MR. BLAKE.

THANK YOU, CHAIRMAN BROWN.

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MY NAME IS MATT BLAKE I'M THE PLANNING MANAGER WITH YAVAPAI COUNTY AND DEVELOPMENT SERVICES.

THE PURPOSE OF TODAY'S PRESENTATION TO THE BOARD AND PUBLIC IS TO HIGHLIGHT THE MAJOR CHANGES MADE TO THE PROPOSED ZONING ORDINANCE AMENDMENT, SECTION 501 ACCESSORY USES REGARDING SMALL SCALE SOLAR USE AND NEW SECTION 608 UTILITY SCALE SOLAR USE SINCE IT WAS FIRST PRESENTED TO THE BOARD ON MAY 15TH. SO YOU'LL JUST NOTE IT'S KIND OF A TWO PART AMENDMENT TO TO THE ZONING ORDINANCE.

ONE DOES IN FACT DEAL WITH SMALL SCALE.

AND REALLY, THAT'S JUST TO SORT OF CLARIFY SOME OF THE REGULATIONS THAT WE ALREADY HAVE IN PLACE PERTAINING TO BUILDING SAFETY THAT REALLY DON'T THAT DON'T SHOW UP IN THE PLANNING AND ZONING CODE.

AND WE JUST WANT TO MAKE THAT LANGUAGE CLEAR.

SO REALLY THE MEAT OF IT IS THE UTILITY SCALE SOLAR.

SO THE CHANGES MADE TO DATE REFLECT THE INPUT AND DIRECTION RECEIVED FROM YOU, THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION, DEVELOPMENT SERVICES STAFF, MANY, MANY PEOPLE WEIGHED IN, INCLUDING PUBLIC UTILITIES INDUSTRY GROUPS AND MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC.

SO THIS THIS DRAFT HAS BEEN TOUCHED BY MANY PEOPLE, AND IT'S HAD A LOT OF TREMENDOUSLY VALUABLE INPUT.

IN THE INTEREST OF TIME, I WOULD SUGGEST THAT WE FOCUS THE DISCUSSION TO THOSE KEY ITEMS NEEDING CLARITY OR WARNING MODIFICATION SO WE CAN GET THROUGH THE PRESENTATION AND THEN OPEN IT FOR THE PUBLIC PORTION.

FINALLY, IF MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC ARE HERE TO VOICE CONCERNS REGARDING THE CONCEPTUALLY PROPOSED DRACONIS SOLAR PROJECT.

PLEASE NOTE THAT THE PROPOSED ORDINANCE ONLY APPLIES TO THE UNINCORPORATED AREAS OF THE COUNTY, AND NOT THE TOWN LIMITS OF CHINO VALLEY OR OTHER MUNICIPALITIES.

THERE ARE CURRENTLY NO UTILITY SCALE SOLAR APPLICATIONS BEFORE THE COUNTY.

OKAY. SO HERE'S A RECAP OF THE PUBLIC MEETINGS HELD TO DATE ON THE PROPOSED ZONING ORDINANCE AMENDMENT.

IMPORTANT TO NOTE IS THAT THIS PROCESS WAS INITIATED BY THE COMBINED PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION AND THE BOARD AT JOINTS AT THE JOINT SESSION MEETING THAT WAS HELD ON MARCH 14TH OF THIS YEAR.

RECOGNIZING THE COMPLEXITY OF THE PROPOSED ZONING ORDINANCE AMENDMENT, THE IMMENSITY OF LAND THAT CAN POTENTIALLY BE INVOLVED, POTENTIAL IMPACTS AND THE RANGE OF OPINIONS, BOTH FOR AND AGAINST THE BOARD ADDED TWO ADDITIONAL INFORMATIONAL MEETINGS.

THE FIRST WAS HELD ON JUNE 19TH AND AGAIN ON JULY 3RD.

THESE WERE FOLLOWED BY THE STANDARD TWO MEETINGS HELD BY THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION.

THE FIRST WAS HELD ON JULY 18TH AND AGAIN ON AUGUST 8TH, WHICH BRINGS US TO TODAY'S HEARING FOR POSSIBLE ACTION BY THE BOARD.

THAT'S FIVE PUBLIC MEETINGS.

SO THAT'S THAT'S KIND OF A RECORD FOR A ZONING ORDINANCE AMENDMENT.

AND IT GETS A LITTLE BIT CONFUSING, BUT THERE'S BEEN A NUMBER OF ITERATIONS OF OF THE PROPOSED DRAFT AS WE WENT THROUGH THE PROCESS AND MADE CHANGES, RESPONSES TO WHAT WE HEARD FROM YOU AND MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC.

THE FIRST DRAFT, AGAIN, WAS PRESENTED TO THE TO THE BOARD AT AN INFORMATIONAL MEETING ON MAY 15TH.

THEN THAT THAT SAME DRAFT WAS PRESENTED TO THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION ON JULY 18TH.

WE TOOK ALL THAT INFORMATION THAT WE HEARD FROM YOU AND THE COMMISSION AND MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC DEVELOPMENT SERVICES STAFF AND MANY OTHERS.

AND SO THAT REVISED DRAFT WAS THEN DISTRIBUTED FOR INTERNAL AND EXTERNAL REVIEW BETWEEN JULY 19TH AND JULY 28TH.

AFTER THAT POINT, WE HAD TO CLOSE COMMENT FOR CONSIDERATION OF INTEGRATING PROPOSED CHANGES INTO THE DRAFT, BECAUSE WE NEEDED TO THEN GET THAT INTO THE PACKET TO GO BEFORE THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION WHEN IT MET ON JULY 29TH.

SO I'M SORRY, NOT JULY 29TH SO IT WAS REVISED AND PROVIDED IN THE PACKET.

SO THAT'S WHEN IT WENT BEFORE THE P&Z.

AND AT THAT POINT, WHAT WAS PREVIOUSLY REFERRED TO AS THE SECOND DRAFT BECAME THE FINAL DRAFT.

SO AS THE FINAL DRAFT THAT WAS THEN PRESENTED BEFORE THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION ON AUGUST 8TH AND RECOMMENDED AT THAT MEETING FOR BOARD OF SUPERVISOR ADOPTION, WITH ADDITIONAL CHANGES BY THE COMMISSION.

AND I'M GOING TO KIND OF GO THROUGH THE HISTORY OF WHAT THE RECOMMENDED CHANGES ARE IN AN UPCOMING SLIDE.

SO SO MORE TO COME ON THAT ACTION.

OKAY. SO I'D JUST LIKE TO HIGHLIGHT CITIZEN PARTICIPATION AGAIN, YOU KNOW WE'VE BEEN SOLICITING FOR FOR COMMENT FOR CONSIDERATION TO TO INTEGRATE INTO THE, INTO THE ORDINANCE FROM MAY 15TH ALL THE WAY TO JULY 28TH.

THE REALITY IS, IS THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE CONSIDERING PUBLIC COMMENT RIGHT UP UNTIL FINAL ACTION BY THE BOARD TODAY, WE'RE GOING TO HEAR FROM

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BUT ALL OF THAT WAS CONSIDERED FOR INCORPORATION DURING THE FIRST AND SECOND AND FINAL DRAFT THAT IS GOING TO BE BEFORE YOU TODAY.

AND I'LL JUST SAY THAT SO ANY ANY REVISIONS TO THE FINAL DRAFT RECOMMENDED BY THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION ARE GOING TO BE PRESENTED TODAY.

AND THE REASON THAT WAS, IS BECAUSE THEY RECOMMENDED A FIVE CHANGES THAT WEREN'T IN THAT FINAL DRAFT THAT WENT BEFORE THEM.

SO THEY HEARD FROM THE PUBLIC.

THERE WAS DISCUSSION STAFF HAD SOME RECOMMENDED CHANGES.

AND SO AS PART OF THEIR RECOMMENDATION FOR APPROVAL BY YOU, THE BOARD THEY ADDED FIVE ADDITIONAL RECOMMENDATIONS, THOSE ARE NOT INCLUDED IN THE FINAL DRAFT THAT WENT AS PART OF YOUR PACKET.

BECAUSE BETWEEN THAT MEETING AND TODAY'S HEARING THEY THEY UNDERWENT THE STANDARD ATTORNEY REVIEW.

AND SO THERE WAS JUST UPON THE ADVICE OF, OF COUNSEL, THERE WAS JUST SOME THERE WAS SOME WORDSMITHING.

BUT WE'RE GOING TO HIGHLIGHT THOSE THOSE CHANGES, THOSE RECOMMENDATIONS THAT WERE MADE FOR YOU IN THE POWERPOINT AS WE WORK OUR WAY THROUGH THE ORDINANCE.

AND THEN AT THE END, SHOULD THE BOARD DECIDE IT WANTS TO MOVE FORWARD WITH CONSIDERATION OF INCLUDING THOSE RECOMMENDATIONS.

AND WE HAVE ANOTHER STAFF RECOMMENDATION WHICH WILL ALSO BRING UP WE CAN WE CAN VISIT EACH OF THOSE AS, AS AN EXHIBIT.

AND SO ANYTHING ELSE THAT WE HEAR TODAY FROM MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC OR THAT YOU, THE BOARD WANT TO ADD ON THAT CAN BE DONE AT THE END AFTER THE PUBLIC PORTION. OKAY.

SO WHAT WAS THE THE VOTE OF THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION? IT VOTED 9 TO 1 TO RECOMMENDING APPROVAL OF THE ZONING ORDINANCE AMENDMENT.

SO THIS IS A QUICK SUMMARY OF THE P&Z MEETING THAT WAS HELD ON THE EIGHTH.

THEY VOTED 9 TO 1, RECOMMENDING APPROVAL.

AT THE MEETING, COMMISSIONER BOURDON MADE A MOTION TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL, SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER BUCHANAN.

AND THE MEASURE WAS OPPOSED BY COMMISSIONER GRIFFIS.

CAN YOU TELL ME WHY? YEAH. SO ESSENTIALLY HER CONCERN, COMMISSIONER GRIFFIS'S CONCERN WAS THAT IT WAS NOT A PRO-BUSINESS ENOUGH FRIENDLY IS WHAT WE HEARD. IS THAT BECAUSE OF LIMITS OR CONSTRAINTS, CAN YOU BE MORE SPECIFIC? I DIDN'T GET MUCH SPECIFICITY AS FAR AS THAT CONCERN WITH RESPECT TO WHAT WHAT SPECIFIC ASPECT OF THE ORDINANCE OR RESTRICTION THAT THAT SHE HAD CONCERNS WITH.

OKAY. SO OF THE KEY POINTS MADE IN SUPPORT OF THE BOARD APPROVAL COMMISSIONER CHERRY NOTED THAT THERE IS CURRENTLY NO ORDINANCE IN PLACE.

UTILITY SCALE SOLAR IS NOT A PERMITTED USE AS IT STANDS TODAY IN THE COUNTY.

THERE IS NO GUIDANCE OR STANDARDS UPON WHICH THE COUNTY CAN RELY IN WEIGHING THE PROS AND CONS OF A GIVEN PROJECT.

YOU COULD RECEIVE AN APPLICATION FOR A MASSIVE PROJECT AT ANY LOCATION AT ANY TIME FOR A USE PERMIT, AND WE'VE SEEN EXAMPLES FROM ELSEWHERE OF WHAT CAN HAPPEN WHEN A PROJECT CAN GO JUST ANYWHERE AND WITHOUT ANY SAFEGUARDS SHOULD AN OPERATOR THEN DECIDE TO ABANDON A PROJECT.

THE ZONING ORDINANCE HAS BEEN EXHAUSTIVELY VETTED.

IT PROVIDES CLEAR GUIDANCE AND EXPECTATIONS, AND IT PUTS YOU, THE BOARD IN THE DRIVER'S SEAT WITH THE TOOLS NECESSARY TO MAKING INFORMED DECISIONS TO PROTECT THE PUBLIC INTEREST AND THE ENVIRONMENT.

OKAY, SO THIS NEXT SLIDE JUST SHOWS KIND OF THE TOTALITY OF THE DIFFERENT GROUPS THAT THAT WE HEARD FROM.

NOT ONLY DID WE MEET WITH MANY OF THESE GROUPS, WE RECEIVED LETTERS IN SOME INSTANCES.

SOME OF THESE GROUPS SUBMITTED MULTIPLE LETTERS.

MANY LETTERS MANY OF THESE GROUPS, SOME OF WHICH HAVE APPEARED BEFORE, EITHER THE BOARD AT A PREVIOUS MEETING OR AT PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION MEETINGS.

WE ALSO HAD THE ONLINE SURVEY THAT WAS CONDUCTED.

SO IN ADDITION TO ALL THE EMAILS YOU RECEIVED, AND YOU PROBABLY HAVE RECEIVED A WHOLE SLEW OF COMMENTS IN YOUR IN YOUR PACKETS, REALLY RIGHT UP TO THE 11TH HOUR AND THEN THIS MEETING ON YOUR GREEN SHEETS.

WE RECEIVED 37 OF THOSE SURVEY AND EMAIL IN FAVOR OF THE ORDINANCE, 23 NEUTRAL.

SO THAT CAN BE A BIT DIFFICULT TO SORT OF TEASE OUT, YOU KNOW, WHAT THE PUBLIC MEANS WHEN WHEN NEUTRAL.

WE MIGHT HEAR SOME OF THOSE COMMENTS.

IT MAY MEAN THAT THEY LIKE CERTAIN ASPECTS OF THE ORDINANCE OR PERHAPS NOT EVERYTHING, AND WE HAD 59 OPPOSED.

THIS IS JUST A MAP OF WHERE THE COMMENTS CAME FROM.

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ALBERTA, CANADA AND SOUTHWEST SPAIN.

PRETTY STRANGE. RIGHT? WE ALSO HEARD FROM A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF EMOJIS.

HOW DID THIS HAPPEN? HOW DID THIS COME TO BE? ONLY TWO HUGS.

THIS IS BECAUSE WE THE COUNTY HAS IT MAINTAINS ITS OWN FACEBOOK PAGE.

AND REALLY THE PURPOSE OF THAT WAS TO GET THE WORD OUT, BUT THEN TO REDIRECT THE PUBLIC TO VISIT OUR WEBSITE TO GET THE MOST ACCURATE INFORMATION SO THAT THEY COULD SEE THE VARIOUS ITERATIONS OF THE DRAFT ORDINANCE AND SO THEY COULD PARTICIPATE IN THE SURVEY.

SO NOT A LOT OF STATISTICAL STATISTICALLY ACCURATE INFORMATION CAN BE DERIVED FROM, FROM FACEBOOK, OF COURSE.

BUT, YOU KNOW, WE DID HAVE 1100 REACTIONS, 500 COMMENTS.

WE HAD THE PLEASURE OF POURING OVER THESE AND SO, YOU KNOW, IT IS WHAT IT IS.

BUT, YOU KNOW, ALL OF THIS IS REALLY MEANT TO DEMONSTRATE THAT WE REALLY HAVE TRIED VERY HARD AT YOUR DIRECTION, ADDITIONAL PUBLIC MEETINGS, TRYING TO GET THE WORD OUT, ALL OF THE ADVERTISEMENTS THAT HAVE BEEN IN THE VARIOUS NEWSPAPERS, SO THAT WE CAN HAVE MEANINGFUL PUBLIC INPUT AS PART OF THIS PROCESS.

AND THAT IS ABSOLUTELY INFLUENCED.

YOU KNOW, THE FINAL LANGUAGE IS PROPOSED TO YOU TODAY.

SO I JUST WANTED TO SUMMARIZE SOME OF THE MAIN CONCERNS.

AND THERE WAS THERE WAS MANY OTHER CONCERNS, BUT THEN WE WENT THROUGH VARIOUS REVISIONS TO THE ORDINANCE.

SO MANY OF THOSE ACTUALLY WENT AWAY THROUGH, YOU KNOW, THE DISCOURSE OF MEETING WITH INDUSTRY GROUPS.

AND, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE WARN AGAINST.

IT'S QUITE A BALANCING ACT TO TRY TO SORT OF GET THIS IN, YOU KNOW, RIGHT INTO THAT RADICAL CENTER WHERE MAYBE YOU PISSED OFF PEOPLE, UPSET PEOPLE ON BOTH SIDES.

BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY, YOU'VE YOU'VE YOU'VE TRIED TO STRIKE A BALANCE SO THAT THIS, YOU KNOW, CAN GO IN THE RIGHT PLACE AND IN THE RIGHT WAY.

WELL, MR. BLAKE, I THINK THE FIRST THING THAT NEEDS TO BE DONE IS, IS THE INFORMATION THAT NEEDS TO BE CONTAINED IN THESE QUESTIONS HAS TO BE VETTED TO MAKE SURE THAT IT IS TRUE THAT IT'S ACTUALLY TRUE.

BECAUSE, NUMBER ONE, THE FIRST DOT UP THERE IS INACCURATE.

THE ACREAGE. SO THESE WERE THE CONCERNS THAT WERE THAT WE'VE HEARD LIKE REPETITIOUSLY FROM CERTAIN GROUPS AND MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC.

SO, WELL, CONCERNS ARE ONE THING, BUT IF THEY'RE NOT BASED ON FACT, THEY'RE NOT REALLY CONCERNED BECAUSE THEY'RE MISINFORMED.

YEAH. AND WE REALLY DIDN'T TRY TO, TO, TO JUDGE THOSE.

IT JUST WE FELT THAT IT WAS, YOU KNOW, OUR ROLE TO, TO SHARE THOSE WITH YOU.

SO YOU WERE AWARE OF WHAT-- YOU WORK WITH APS AT ALL AND OR? WE DID CHAIRMAN BROWN, WE HAD A NUMBER OF MEETINGS WITH APS WITH RCA, WHICH IS ONE OF THE INDUSTRY GROUPS THAT REPRESENTS MANY OF THE COMPANIES. IT'S BEEN A LONG PROCESS, AS YOU'RE AWARE, WE THIS THIS COMMENCED ON MAY 15TH OF THIS YEAR.

SO WE'VE ACTUALLY WE WE PURPOSELY BUILT IT IN SO THAT ANYBODY WHO WANTED TO TALK TO US EARLY ON, YOU KNOW, AT THE 11TH HOUR IT BECAME MORE DIFFICULT BUT WOULD HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO MEET WITH US AND RAISE THEIR CONCERNS.

SO, YEAH, I MEAN, OF COURSE THERE'S THERE'S GOING TO BE SOME FOLKS IN GROUPS WHO ARE CONCERNED THAT THE ACREAGE CAPS ARE LOW.

THERE'S WE'VE HEARD, YOU KNOW, A LOT OF TESTIMONY ABOUT WHAT ARIZONA, THE STATE'S GUIDELINES ARE, WHAT ITS GOALS ARE FOR INCREASING ITS CAPACITY TO MEET CURRENT AND FUTURE NEED.

WE DON'T REALLY I'M NOT GOING INTO THAT, THOSE ASPECTS OF THE ECONOMICS AND JOB CREATION TODAY, ALL OF THAT MAY BE SIGNIFICANT.

IT'S REALLY FOR THIS BOARD TO DETERMINE TO WHAT EXTENT ITS ROLE IS IN HELPING THE STATE MEET ITS ENERGY GOALS.

ONE OF THE OTHER CONCERNS WAS THAT THE CONCERNS FOR SETBACKS.

BUT WE'VE HEARD A LOT OF COMMENTS FOR AND AGAINST, YOU KNOW, TRY TO FIND ME.

ANYBODY THAT WANTS THIS, YOU KNOW, NEXT TO THEIR BACKYARD.

AT THE SAME TIME, THESE THESE TYPES OF PROJECTS CAN'T JUST GO ANYWHERE.

THEY WANT TO BE CLOSER TO THE BUILT ENVIRONMENT WHERE THE INTERCONNECTION IS AND THE SUBSTATION.

SO AGAIN, IT'S, IT'S REALLY THAT THAT TIGHT WIRE ON THAT, ON THAT BALANCING ACT TRYING TO FIND, YOU KNOW, KEEPING IT AWAY FROM ENVIRONMENTALLY SENSITIVE AREAS, NOT GETTING IT TOO CLOSE TO PEOPLE'S BACKYARDS AND SCENIC AREAS, ETC..

WE HAD A LOT OF COMMENTS FROM FOLKS WHO WANTED TO EXPAND THE RESTRICTIONS THAT ARE ALREADY IN PLACE AND RECOMMENDED IN THE ORDINANCE TO BE MORE PROTECTIVE OF THINGS LIKE CRITICAL HABITAT, AND ENSURE THAT WILDLIFE CORRIDORS AND CONNECTIVITY WILL BE APPROPRIATELY ESTABLISHED AND MAINTAINED.

I THINK THERE'S THERE'S THE RECOGNITION THAT, YOU KNOW, FOR PROJECTS LIKE THIS, THEY'RE GOING TO WANT THE PATH OF LEAST RESISTANCE.

SO IT'S UNDOUBTEDLY YOU COULD ANTICIPATE SEEING PROJECTS BEING PROPOSED IN AREAS LIKE THE LOW GRASS PRAIRIE, WHICH DOES SET UP THE POTENTIAL FOR COMPLEX, BECAUSE THAT'S WHERE, YOU

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THERE WAS CONCERNS THAT THE REGULATIONS WILL PLACE LIMITS ON UTILITY SCALE ENERGY DEVELOPMENT.

AGAIN, AS I SAID AT THE BEGINNING, CURRENTLY THIS IS NOT A PERMITTED USE IN THE COUNTY.

THEY WOULD NEED A USE PERMIT.

AND SO REALLY WHAT THIS WHAT THIS ORDINANCE IS ATTEMPTING TO DO IS TO TO PROVIDE CLEAR EXPECTATIONS FOR A LEGAL PATHWAY FOR CONSIDERATION, FOR APPROVAL FOR, FOR PROJECTS. SO DID THIS TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION OVERHEAD LINES? SO THE ORIGINAL DRAFT OF THE ORDINANCE DID LOOK AT THAT ISSUE.

BUT THEN IN OUR CONSULTATION WITH APS AND OTHERS, WE REALIZED THAT THERE'S OTHER OTHER JURISDICTIONS THAT ACTUALLY DETERMINE THOSE, THOSE ISSUES, SUCH AS THE CEC.

AND SO YOU KNOW, A BIG PIECE OF THIS OF THE APPROVAL PROCESS BEGINS WITH THE BOARD.

BUT IT DOESN'T END HERE.

SHOULD YOU APPROVE A PROCESS THERE'S OTHER JURISDICTIONS THAT ALSO GET GET TO WEIGH IN ON THESE PROJECTS.

AND IF THESE PROJECTS ARE IN WITHIN THE CITY LIMITS OF, LET'S SAY, PRESCOTT VALLEY OR PRESCOTT OR CHINO VALLEY OR COTTONWOOD WHATEVER, THEY DON'T COME TO US AT ALL? SO IT'S NOT A COUNTY ISSUE.

CORRECT. YEAH. THIS ORDINANCE IS IS SPECIFIC TO THE UNINCORPORATED AREA OF THE COUNTY.

AND OF COURSE, THE PREFERENCE FOR FEWER REGULATIONS IN GENERAL SPECIFIC TO SMALL SCALE USE.

SO I THINK THOSE COMMENTS ARE CONCERNS.

ARE WE LOOKING TO REGULATE WHAT PEOPLE DO IN THEIR BACKYARD ON THEIR ROOFTOP? AND THAT'S THAT'S NOT THE CASE.

AND WE'LL GET INTO THAT IN A MINUTE.

AND OF COURSE, YOU KNOW, MANY, MANY COMMENTS.

AGAIN, NOBODY REALLY WANTS THIS IN THEIR BACKYARD, OF COURSE, UNDERSTANDABLY SO.

OKAY. SO AGAIN, THIS IS THIS THIS THIS AMENDMENT IS REALLY A TWO PART PROCESS.

THE REALLY SMALL PIECE IS KIND OF WINDOW DRESSING TO WHAT ALREADY EXISTS AS A PERMITTED USE WITH THE COUNTY WITH RESPECT TO SMALL SCALE SOLAR.

THESE ARE YOUR ROOFTOP PANELS AND YOUR, YOUR, YOUR GROUND MOUNTED PANELS THAT YOU SEE THERE AT PLACES OF BUSINESS OR ON YOUR RESIDENTIAL PROPERTY.

THEY'RE DERIVING ENERGY TO BE USED ON THE PROPERTY.

IT'S NOT BEING PUT BACK INTO THE GRID, SMALL SCALE.

SO WHAT'S CHANGED SINCE THE FIRST DRAFT? AND AGAIN AT PREVIOUS PRESENTATIONS, I WALKED THE BOARD THROUGH THE OUTLINE OF THE ORDINANCE AND AND THAT TAKES A LOT OF TIME.

SO WE COULDN'T DO BOTH TODAY.

AND SO THE PURPOSE OF TODAY IS TO SORT OF WALK YOU THROUGH WHAT HAVE BEEN THE MAJOR CHANGES OF SIGNIFICANCE THAT HAVE BEEN MADE TO DATE, AND THEN WE'LL GET INTO WHAT THE RECOMMENDATIONS WERE FROM THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION.

SO WE CLARIFIED THAT ROOF MOUNTED PANELS NEED TO MEET NORMAL BUILDING HEIGHTS, RIGHT? SO IF YOUR IF YOUR STRUCTURE MEETS THE REQUIREMENT, WHETHER IT'S FOR 30FT IN RESIDENTIAL AREAS OR 50FT, YOUR PANELS ARE GOOD.

YOU CAN PUT THEM ON YOUR ROOF.

REALLY NO CHANGE THERE, CLARIFICATION.

MAXIMUM HEIGHT FOR GROUND MOUNTED SOLAR ORDINANCE WAS SILENT ON THAT.

WE ORIGINALLY WE PREVIOUSLY RECOMMENDED 10 FEET.

WE HEARD FROM INDUSTRY GROUPS AND OTHERS THAT THAT REALLY DOESN'T MEET THE THE INDUSTRY STANDARD OF WHAT PEOPLE ACTUALLY DO WHEN THEY UTILIZE GROUND MOUNTED SOLAR. SO NOW THE ORDINANCE PROPOSES 15FT.

I'LL JUST POINT OUT THAT IN THE BUILT ENVIRONMENT, IF YOU'RE IN A SUBDIVISION, IF YOU'RE IN A TIGHTLY PACKED, YOU KNOW, NEIGHBORHOOD WITH SMALL LOTS, YOU'RE PROBABLY NOT GOING TO BE UTILIZING GROUND MOUNTED SOLAR.

YOU'RE GOING TO PUT THE PANELS ON YOUR ROOF BECAUSE YOU WANT TO MAXIMIZE THE UTILITY OF YOUR YARD.

SO REALLY WHERE YOU TEND TO SEE THOSE, THOSE GROUND MOUNTED PANELS ARE GOING TO BE IN LARGER PROPERTIES.

OUR CU TWO ACRE, LARGER PEOPLE THAT WANT SELF-SUFFICIENCY OR DON'T WANT TO BE ON THE GRID.

THAT'S TYPICALLY WHERE YOU'RE GOING TO SEE IT.

WE DON'T REALLY RECEIVE COMPLAINTS ABOUT GROUND MOUNTED SOLAR IN PEOPLE'S BACKYARDS.

SO AND WE JUST CLARIFIED THE LANGUAGE THAT, YOU KNOW, THE ORDINANCE ALSO ALLOWS THAT YOU CAN PUT THESE ON STRUCTURES SUCH AS CARPORTS.

YOU'RE STILL GOING TO NEED A PERMIT, BUT YOU'RE GOING TO GET THE PERMIT, YOU JUST NEED TO MEET THE STANDARDS, YOU KNOW, SET FORTH FOR THOSE STRUCTURE TYPES.

SO THEY'RE THEY'RE SAFE AND THEY PASS MUSTER WITH BUILDING SAFETY.

SO YOU KNOW, WE REALLY WANT TO ENCOURAGE YOU KNOW, PEOPLE TO UTILIZE YOU KNOW, SOLAR ON THEIR PROPERTIES AND ENJOY THOSE SAVINGS.

IN THE ORIGINAL DRAFT WE REQUIRED, WE WERE LOOKING TO REQUIRE THAT YOU KNOW, ALL OF THE WIRING AND EVERYTHING ELSE THAT AND VARIOUS COMPONENTS WITH GROUND AND ROOFTOP SOLAR WOULD BE, YOU KNOW, FULLY SCREENED.

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SO WE QUICKLY CHANGED THAT.

YOU KNOW, NOW WE'RE JUST LOOKING TO TO ENSURE THAT, YOU KNOW, WHEN FOLKS ARE UTILIZING THIS EQUIPMENT THAT THEY'RE THEY'RE THINKING ABOUT SCREENING AND LANDSCAPING AND THINGS LIKE THIS. SO IT IT FITS INTO THE FABRIC OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND DOESN'T BECOME AN EYESORE SO.

AND THE REVISIONS NOW REFER TO CODES AND POLICIES FOR ENERGY STORAGE TO MATCH BUILDING SAFETY.

SO IT MAY HAVE BEEN IF YOU LOOKED AT BUILDING SAFETY YOU WOULD FIND IT.

BUT IF YOU LOOK TO OUR PLANNING AND ZONING CODE, IT WAS SILENT.

IT CREATED CONFUSION.

SO AGAIN, IF YOU'RE DOING ROOFTOP GROUND MOUNTED FOR YOUR RESIDENTIAL OR FOR YOUR RESIDENTIAL PROPERTY, THE STANDARD FOR THE BATTERY STORAGE.

AND WHEN I SAY BATTERY STORAGE, THAT'S REALLY SPECIFIC TO BATTERY STORAGE DERIVED FROM YOUR SOLAR POWER PANELS.

IT SAYS NOTHING TO DO WITH MAYBE YOUR EV BATTERY GENERATION IN YOUR GARAGE.

TOTALLY SEPARATE ISSUE.

NOT IN THE SCOPE OF THIS ORDINANCE.

SO THE STANDARD IS THAT WE WROTE INTO THE ORDINANCE MATCHING THE BUILDING SAFETY STANDARDS, 80 KILOWATT HOURS.

THAT'S THE COUNTY BUILDING CODE, MATCHES LOCAL FIRE CODE FOR BATTERY STORAGE ABOVE 80 KILOWATT HOURS.

AND THAT WOULD FALL UNDER A DIFFERENT PURVIEW, WHICH WOULD BE THE INTERNATIONAL FIRE CODE.

OKAY. SO SO NOW WE GET INTO THE INTO THE MEAT OF THIS INITIATIVE, WHICH HAS REALLY BEEN THE UTILITY SCALE SOLAR, THE PROJECTS THAT ARE GOING TO, YOU KNOW, OCCUPY HUNDREDS, IF NOT THOUSANDS OF ACRES AND BE PUTTING PUTTING ENERGY BACK INTO THE GRID.

HANG ON A SECOND, MATT.

LET ME ASK YOU A QUICK QUESTION.

WOULD THE BOARD CONSIDER TAKING ACTION ON 501A IN AN EVENT BY ITSELF, THE ONE HE JUST COVERED? YEAH.

I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH IT.

I DON'T EITHER. I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE, AND I'LL SECOND.

ALL IN FAVOR? EXCUSE ME.

I'M SORRY. EXCUSE ME.

CHAIRMAN. SUPERVISORS.

I DIDN'T KNOW IF THERE WAS ANY COMMENT IN RELATION TO THAT ITEM.

THAT WOULD BE MY ONLY QUESTION BEFORE THE BOARD ACTUALLY TAKING ACTION TO COMPLETE THE HEARING ON THE ITEM.

I DON'T SEE ANY INDICATED ON THE GREEN SHEETS.

ANYONE OUT THERE LIKE TO MAKE A COMMENT ON SECTION 501 A? I SEE NONE, ALL IN FAVOR? AYE, AYE.

OKAY. THANK YOU MATT.

WE GOT THAT OUT OF THE WAY.

THANK YOU, CHAIRMAN BROWN.

SO AGAIN SECTIONS 608 WITH RESPECT TO UTILITY SCALE SOLAR FACILITIES.

THIS IS REALLY THE MEAT OF THE INITIATIVE.

IT'S ESSENTIALLY A STANDALONE ORDINANCE.

SO THIS WOULD BE SECTION 608 WOULD BE A NEW SECTION IN THE PLANNING AND ZONING CODE FOR UTILITY SCALE SOLAR SITES SPECIFIC TO THE RCU ZONING DISTRICT.

AND THAT WOULD BE AS A USE PERMIT.

OH, SORRY. OKAY.

SO AS WITH ANY GOOD ORDINANCE, YOU WANT TO FIND A BASIS SET FORTH IN YOUR IN EITHER YOUR MASTER PLAN, IF YOU'RE A MUNICIPALITY OR YOUR COUNTY COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.

I'M GOING TO ASK YOU TO BACK UP FOR A SECOND.

MISS MICHAELS NEEDS TO TAKE A BREAK.

SO I'M GOING TO LET'S TAKE A QUICK EIGHT MINUTE BREAK, IF YOU DON'T MIND.

COME BACK HERE AT 11:00 STRAIGHT UP.

OKAY. SORRY.

I KNOW, FOLKS, YOU ALL THINK WE'RE PROBABLY MOVING VERY QUICKLY, BUT THERE IS A REASON FOR IT AND WE'RE GOING TO TRY AND GET IN EVERYBODY'S COMMENTS TODAY.

WE MAY HAVE ANOTHER HEARING ON THIS SOMETIME IN THE FUTURE, IF THAT'S UP TO THE BOARD TO DECIDE.

BUT IF THAT BE THE CASE, WE WANT TO MAKE SURE WE'VE HEARD FROM YOU FOLKS IN ADVANCE.

OKAY. SO GO AHEAD, MATT.

THANK YOU, CHAIRMAN BROWN.

SO AGAIN, WE'RE REALLY JUST SORT OF HIGHLIGHTING WHAT WE'RE WHAT HAVE BEEN THE MAJOR CHANGES AS WE'VE GONE THROUGH THIS PROCESS.

SO IF SOME OF THESE THINGS SEEM A LITTLE BIT OUT OF ORDER, IT'S BECAUSE WE'RE NOT REALLY GOING SECTION BY SECTION THROUGH THE ORDINANCE.

OKAY. SO WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE PURPOSE SECTION OF THE ORDINANCE.

EVERY GOOD STANDALONE ORDINANCE HAS ONE.

AND YOU YOU GENERALLY WANT TO PROVIDE SOME BASIS WITH WHAT YOU'RE PROPOSING TO DO TO FIND TO FIND THAT BEING SUPPORTED WITHIN YOUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.

AND SURE ENOUGH, YOU KNOW, LOOKING TO THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, THIS IS LANGUAGE, THIS IS ONE OF THE CHANGES WHERE WE PUT WE ADDED SOME OF THE SPECIFIC LANGUAGE THAT'S IN THE

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AND SO EVERYTHING FROM ENCOURAGING THE EFFICIENT USE, PROMOTE CLEAN AND RENEWABLE ENERGY PRODUCTION, PROMOTE CONSERVATION TO PROTECT SENSITIVE AREAS, THE REGIONAL ENVIRONMENT, MINIMIZE ADVERSE IMPACT OF SITING LARGE SCALE FACILITIES.

KEY ITEMS TO ADDRESS INCLUDE YOU KNOW, GUARDING AGAINST, YOU KNOW, CERTAIN NUISANCES AND THINGS WE WANT TO BE PROTECTIVE OF.

AND THAT'S ALL IMPORTANT, RIGHT? BECAUSE YOU KNOW, ON THE ONE HAND, THIS THIS ORDINANCE IS LOOKING TO, TO PERMIT UTILITY SCALE SOLAR, BUT BUT BUT KEEPING IN MIND BEING A PROTECTIVE OF THE RESOURCES.

AND SO THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN REALLY ASKS US TO ADDRESS BOTH.

IN THE DEFINITION SECTION WE REVISED A COUPLE DEFINITIONS.

WE ALSO ADDED A FEW.

AND THIS IS FROM FEEDBACK THAT WE EITHER RECEIVE FROM YOU OR MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC.

SO JUST KIND OF CLEANING UP THOSE DEFINITIONS SO THAT WE CAN BE AS CLEAR AS POSSIBLE WITH EXPECTATIONS AND WHAT WE MEAN WHEN WE SAY YES OR WHEN WE SAY NO.

OKAY. SO HERE I'VE ACTUALLY HIGHLIGHTED AN ITEM.

AND WHEN I DO THIS IN THE POWERPOINT, I'M SIGNALING TO TO YOU AND THE PUBLIC THAT THIS IS ONE OF THE ITEMS THAT WAS RECOMMENDED BY THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION AT ITS LAST MEETING THAT WAS NOT INCLUDED IN THE ORDINANCE BECAUSE THE LANGUAGE UNDERWENT SOME JUST VERY MINOR ADDITIONAL CHANGES PER RECOMMENDATION OF COUNCIL.

SO WE'RE GOING TO ACTUALLY GO INTO WHAT THE ACTUAL LANGUAGE LOOKS LIKE AT THE END, PERHAPS AFTER THE PUBLIC PORTION, BUT THIS WAS ONE THAT THIS IS ONE OF THE ONLY ONES THAT DIDN'T COME UP DURING THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION.

THIS CAME AFTER THE MEETING UPON CONSULTATION WITH APS, THE PUBLIC UTILITY REACHED OUT TO DEVELOPMENT SERVICES.

AND SO CURRENTLY THE TERM OF USE, LIKE MANY USES, CAN EXIST IN PERPETUITY.

NOBODY ASKS, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, WHEN IS YOUR LOGISTICS FACILITY.

YOU KNOW THAT THAT CAN ONLY LAST FOR 40 YEARS, LIKE SO MANY USES, YOU KNOW, DON'T DON'T HAVE THAT THAT END DATE.

RIGHT. SO THIS IS UNIQUE FOR SOLAR IS THAT THEY HAVE A LIFETIME.

AND THAT'S BUILT INTO THE ORDINANCE.

SO CURRENTLY AS PROPOSED IT WOULD BE THE TERM FOR THE LIFETIME WOULD BE 30 YEARS.

THE INTENT WAS REALLY TO MATCH WHAT WHAT WE UNDERSTAND FROM FROM INDUSTRY AND THE DEPARTMENT OF ENERGY TO BE THE EXPECTED LIFETIME.

YOU KNOW, HOW LONG ARE THESE THINGS EXPECTED TO, YOU KNOW, TO LAST OUT ON, ON THE LANDSCAPE, IN THE ENVIRONMENT UNTIL THEY'VE OUTLIVED THEIR PRODUCTIVITY.

RIGHT. AND SO APS ALERTED US TO THE CONCERN THAT THEY WERE ASKING, REQUESTING 40 YEARS INSTEAD OF 30. AND THE CONCERN BEING THAT THAT THEY NEED TO, TO ENSURE THAT THEY CAN GET THAT THEY CAN LINE UP THE FUNDING NECESSARY AND THAT IF THE INDUSTRY STANDARD HAS CHANGED SO QUICKLY AND WE'RE TRYING TO KEEP UP THAT THAT 40 YEAR WAS REALLY JUST A BETTER STANDARD TO GO BY.

KEEP IN MIND THAT AS IT'S CURRENTLY WRITTEN, AN APPLICANT WOULD HAVE THE ABILITY TO COME BACK AND ASK FOR A 10 YEAR EXTENSION.

SO IN REALITY, THE OPPORTUNITY EXISTS FOR FOR 40 YEARS, APS REQUESTED CONSIDERATION OF INCREASING 30 TO TO 40 YEARS.

AND DEVELOPMENT SERVICES REALLY DIDN'T SEE A PROBLEM WITH THAT.

I MEAN, IF THE OPERATION IS STILL VIABLE, THE IMPACT HAS ALREADY HAPPENED, THE DEVELOPMENT HAS HAPPENED.

WHAT WE DON'T WANT TO DO IS, YOU KNOW, CREATE AN ORDINANCE TO ALLOW PROJECTS THAT GO FORWARD AND THEN HAVE THEM HIT A STUMBLING BLOCK.

SO AND IF THERE'S SOME KIND OF PROBLEM THAT POPS UP, WE'RE GOING TO ADDRESS THAT INDIVIDUALLY.

CORRECT. YEAH.

DON'T KEEP IN MIND. THANK YOU, CHAIRMAN BROWN THAT A LOT OF ISSUES THAT MAY ARISE CAN BE DEALT WITH AT THE SITE APPLICATION PHASE.

SO THERE'S A THERE'S A LOT TO THESE PROJECTS THAT THE ORDINANCE DOESN'T DEAL WITH HERE BUT WILL BE ADDRESSED AT THE APPLICATION.

WE RECOMMEND DEVELOPMENT SERVICES DOES RECOMMEND INCREASING THE TERM FROM 30 TO 40 YEARS.

WE DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THAT.

IT'S IT'S REALLY UP TO TO THE BOARD.

AND WE CAN REVISIT THAT AT THE END OF MY, MY PRESENTATION.

[INAUDIBLE] I HAVE A QUESTION HERE RATHER THAN WAITING UNTIL THE END OF YOUR PRESENTATION.

WHAT'S WRONG WITH KEEPING IT A 30 YEARS AND GIVING TWO 10 YEAR EXTENSIONS.

SO THAT GIVES US MORE ABILITY TO TAKE A LOOK AT IT EARLIER AND MAKE A DECISION, RATHER THAN GOING ALL THE WAY TO 40 AND THEN HAVING ONLY A 10 YEAR.

TO ME, I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE IT AT 30, GIVE YOU TWO 10 YEAR EXTENSIONS.

THAT STILL GIVES YOU THE 50, IF THAT MAKES THE MOST SENSE, TO TRY AND HAVE THE BEST ECONOMY FOR BOTH THE RATEPAYER AND FOR THE FOR THE UTILITY.

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WELL THANK YOU, SUPERVISOR OBERG.

AND THAT WAS ACTUALLY OUR RESPONSE TO TO THAT REQUEST.

AND YOU KNOW, APS IS HERE TODAY.

AND I MIGHT I MIGHT SUGGEST THAT WE ALLOW ONE OF THEIR REPRESENTATIVES TO TO COME UP TO THE PODIUM AND SPEAK TO, TO THE BOARD IN PUBLIC OF WHY THAT THAT CHANGE IS, IS NECESSARY. YOU KNOW, THE REALITY IS, AS WE ALL KNOW, A LOT CAN CHANGE OVER THE COURSE OF 30 AND 40 YEARS.

I WOULD LIKE TO HEAR THAT MATT.

WELL, GOOD MORNING AND ALOHA.

HONORABLE CHAIRMAN BROWN AND ESTEEMED SUPERVISORS DARLA DEVILLE, PUBLIC AFFAIRS MANAGER FOR THE NORTHWEST DIVISION OF YOUR APS.

IT IS AN HONOR TO INTRODUCE KARRIN TAYLOR ROBSON, WHO IS PART OF THE APS TEAM, A LEADER AND GENUINE PARTNER IN COMMUNITIES THROUGHOUT OUR STATE, ESPECIALLY WHEN IT COMES TO WORKING ON ISSUES THAT GENERATE MEANINGFUL SOLUTIONS, KARRIN.

THANK YOU DONNA.

MR. CHAIRMAN AND THE BOARD, KARRIN TAYLOR FROM ARIZONA STRATEGIES.

KARRIN TAYLOR ROBSON, ARIZONA STRATEGIES HERE ON BEHALF OF APS.

AND FIRST, I WANT TO JUST APPLAUD STAFF FOR THEIR TIME AND DILIGENCE IN THE OUTREACH THAT THEY HAVE HAVE UNDERTAKEN FOR MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC, INDUSTRY AND OTHER STAKEHOLDER GROUPS THAT YOU'VE HEARD ABOUT ALREADY.

AND THEY HAVE TAKEN OUR INPUT.

THEY HAVE ACCEPTED SOME OF OUR INPUT.

THEY HAVE NOT ACCEPTED OTHERS, BUT THIS ONE IS A VERY IMPORTANT ISSUE FOR APS.

APS, OF COURSE, HAS A LONG TERM LONG RANGE PLAN TO PROVIDE RELIABILITY IN OUR ENERGY GRID IN ARIZONA.

THE ONE OF THE THINGS THAT APS DOES IS BUILD BUILD ITS OWN APS ALSO WILL BUY POWER FROM OTHER OTHER SOLAR GENERATORS, AND OTHERS CAN DO IT AT 30 YEARS.

BUT ANY SOLAR PLANT OR OPERATION THAT APS WOULD BUILD WOULD BE REQUIRED TO HAVE 40 YEARS OR WE WOULDN'T BUILD IT.

SO THIS IS A REQUIREMENT AT THE REQUEST OF APS, IT'S A FINANCING REQUIREMENT.

THE DEPARTMENT OF ENERGY IS ACTUALLY 35 YEARS AS OPPOSED TO 30 YEARS.

AND SO WE BELIEVE IT IS IT IS INDUSTRY STANDARD.

WE WOULD HAVE TO BUILD IT IN COMPLIANCE WITH ALL OF THE OTHER ORDINANCE REQUIREMENTS.

AND I ALSO HAVE TO SAY THANK YOU TO YAVAPAI COUNTY AND THE STAFF, BECAUSE MANY JURISDICTIONS AROUND THE STATE OF ARIZONA ARE WORKING ON SIMILAR ORDINANCES, A LOT OF THEM ARE LOOKING AT YAVAPAI COUNTY FOR, YOU KNOW, VETTING THESE ISSUES AND MAKING SURE WE GET IT RIGHT.

BUT WE WILL BE AT ANY OTHER JURISDICTION TALKING ABOUT THIS IN THIS 40 YEAR REQUIREMENT FOR US TO BE ABLE TO, TO PRODUCE OUR OWN SOLAR POWER.

I HAVE A QUESTION. OH, GO AHEAD, DONNA.

THANK YOU JAMES. I'M JUST TRYING TO GET MY HEAD AROUND THIS.

IT SEEMS TO ME AN INDUSTRY STANDARD WOULD MAKE SENSE FOR US TO ALIGN TO.

AND IF I UNDERSTAND IT RIGHT, SUPERVISOR OBERG, WE'RE NOT PROHIBITED AT ANY TIME TO COME IN AND REVIEW AND MAKE NECESSARY REQUESTS IF NEEDED.

IS THAT CORRECT? WELL, YOU CAN YOU CAN, OF COURSE, SUPERVISE OR MAKE ANY CHANGES ALONG THE WAY TO YOUR TEXT AMENDMENT RIGHT.

IF YOU FIND THAT THIS IS A IS AN ISSUE FOR OTHERS.

YOU COULD ALWAYS MAKE MAKE THOSE CHANGES.

WE'RE JUST HOPING THAT WE GET IT RIGHT THE FIRST TIME.

CORRECT. SO THAT YOU KNOW, SHOULD SHOULD THE OPPORTUNITY ARISE OR THE NEED FOR APS TO BE HERE AND DEVELOP ITS OWN SOLAR GENERATION, THAT WE WOULD HAVE AN ORDINANCE THAT WE COULD WORK WITH.

NOW 40 YEARS MAKES SENSE TO ME, MR. CHAIRMAN. I WANT TO MIGHT WANT TO MAKE A NOTE TO THAT APS, AS WELL AS ONE OTHER GROUP, ARE THE PRIMARY PROVIDERS OF POWER TO THE STATE OF ARIZONA, AND THEY USUALLY GET THE POWER THAT COMES FROM ELSEWHERE AND THEY DISTRIBUTE IT.

SO THIS IS OUR PUBLIC UTILITY.

THERE ARE NO OTHERS.

THAT'S CORRECT. AND OUR NUMBER ONE GOAL IS RELIABILITY OF THE GRID.

AND CHAIRMAN, IF I CAN MAKE ONE COMMENT IS WITH APS HAVING THEIR OWN SOLAR FIELDS, IT ALSO COSTS BENEFIT TO OUR CITIZENS FOR CHEAPER POWER VERSUS BUYING IT FROM A THIRD PARTY.

SO IT DIRECTLY IMPACTS OUR OUR CONSUMERS, OUR CONSTITUENTS THAT ARE PAYING THEIR ELECTRIC BILL.

THAT'S CORRECT. JUST TO HAVE THE ENERGY GENERATION AROUND THE STATE, CURRENTLY YOUR POWER IS COMING FROM FOUR CORNERS.

IT'S COMING FROM THE PHOENIX METRO AREA.

AND SO THERE IS A DEFINITE NEED TO PROVIDE GREATER RESILIENCY IN THIS AREA.

THIS WORD THIS IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING, SPEAKING FOR THE BOARD A LITTLE BIT IS WHEN WE ORIGINALLY BROUGHT THIS UP, WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE WE

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AND WE'VE GOT AN ISSUE WITH THAT BECAUSE ALL OF THEM ARE TALKING ABOUT, THEY ALWAYS SAY, WELL, WE'RE SELLING IT TO THE GRID AND ARIZONA NEEDS POWER.

THE TRUTH IS, ARIZONA ALREADY GETS POWER FROM CALIFORNIA.

WE DON'T EVEN HAVE TO BUY IT.

THEY GIVE IT TO US.

SOMETIMES THEY PAY US TO TAKE IT.

SO COME ON, FOLKS, YOU KNOW, DO WE NEED ANY MORE SOLAR FACILITIES? DO WE NEED WIND POWER? DO WE NEED, YOU KNOW? DO WE WANT TO SCREW UP OUR ENVIRONMENT? WELL, THERE YOU GO.

YEAH. THANK YOU [APPLAUSE].

SO THAT'S WHY WHEN I SAY WE'RE TRYING TO TAKE THIS LINE BY LINE AND GET IT RIGHT, BECAUSE WE'VE ALREADY LOOKED AT MANY OTHER COUNTIES WITHIN THE STATE, AND THEY GOT BIG HOLES AND THEY DON'T THEY WANT TO PLUG THEM UP AS BEST THEY CAN USING YAVAPAI COUNTY AS A MODEL.

SO ARE WE GOING TO REACH A DECISION TODAY? I HIGHLY DOUBT IT.

BUT I MEAN, WE'RE GOING TO MOVE FORWARD AND DO THE BEST WE CAN WITH WHAT WE GOT TO WORK WITH.

AND, CHAIRMAN, IF I CAN MAKE A COMMENT.

THIS IS AN ORDINANCE.

THIS IS AN ORDINANCE TO PROTECT THE CITIZENS OF YAVAPAI COUNTY.

IT COVERS SETBACKS.

IT LITERALLY COVERS.

IT LIMITS THE AMOUNT OF SOLAR COMING IN.

THERE'S A LOT OF RESTRICTIONS.

SO THIS ORDINANCE IS PROTECTING OUR COMMUNITY AND APPROVING AN ORDINANCE IT'S NOT A BAD THING FOR US BECAUSE WE ARE PROTECTING WITH THE SETBACKS, THE CLEAN UP COSTS THAT ARE ASSOCIATED WITH THE SOLAR PLANTS.

THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS THAT GO TO GO INTO IT.

AND RIGHT NOW WE HAVE NOTHING THAT REGULATES THESE SOLAR UTILITY PLANTS COMING IN.

SO I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO HAVE A SOLAR ORDINANCE IN PLACE TO PROTECT OUR COMMUNITY.

SO THIS IS NOT A VOTE TO YES OR NO ON SOLAR.

WHAT WE'RE DISCUSSING TODAY, IT'S AN ORDINANCE TO MAKE SURE THAT WE WE HAVE REGULATIONS FOR WHEN THESE BIG COMPANIES WHICH THEY'RE THERE, WANTING TO COME IN AND PUT THESE SOLAR PLANTS IN. THERE'S GOT TO BE REGULATIONS, AND WE GOT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE PROTECT OUR COMMUNITY BY DOING IT.

SO THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN. I AGREE WITH THAT STATEMENT.

AND MATT, I THINK THAT'S AN IMPORTANT DISTINCTION AS WE GO FORWARD, THAT THIS IS REALLY NOT A DISCUSSION OR A VOTE ABOUT, DO WE WANT IT OR NOT.

IT'S ABOUT IS THIS ORDINANCE GOING TO BE EFFECTIVE AS WE GO INTO THE FUTURE, AND DO WE HAVE THE BEST GUARDRAILS IN PLACE WITH WHAT WE KNOW TODAY? AND SO THAT'S THAT'S THE FOCUS.

AND IT'S EASY TO GET IT CONFUSED BECAUSE I KNOW THIS IS A HOT TOPIC.

AND NO ONE WANTS TO PROTECT THE OPEN SPACE AND OUR WILDLIFE CORRIDORS.

AND JUST FRANKLY, THE BEAUTY OF ARIZONA MORE THAN THIS BOARD.

BUT WE ALSO HAVE TO GET SOMETHING IN PLACE TO MANAGE WHAT IS THAT ALREADY EXISTS.

SO IT IS TO PROTECT THE THE BEST INTEREST OF OUR, OUR CITIZENRY THAT WE WE NEED TO GO FORWARD.

OUR JOB, OUR JOB IS TO PROTECT THE CITIZENS OF YAVAPAI COUNTY.

AND WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO IS PUT SOMETHING IN PLACE SO THAT IN 20 YEARS, 30 YEARS, WHEN PEOPLE WALK AWAY FROM THESE FACILITIES BECAUSE THEY'VE GONE BROKE, THEY DON'T LEAVE YOU WITH A BUNCH OF CLEANUP, OKAY? AND WE'RE GOING TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY HAVE BONDS TO THAT HAVE TO BE PAID UPFRONT WHERE WE HAVE THEM IN CASE THEY DEFAULT.

SO GO AHEAD, MATT.

THANK YOU. CHAIRMAN BROWN AND OTHER MEMBERS OF THE BOARD.

SO MOVING ON ON THIS SLIDE, WE CAN WE CAN REVISIT THE RECOMMENDATIONS AT THE END AFTER THE PUBLIC PORTION.

SOME OF THE OTHER CHANGES TO HIGHLIGHT UNDER SOLAR FACILITY USE PERMIT RENEWALS, WE ADDED LANGUAGE MEETING CURRENT OPERATIONAL STANDARDS.

SO WHEN THEY COME BACK, A LOT CAN CHANGE, RIGHT? SO THERE'S THE SUNSET, RIGHT.

WE JUST TALKED ABOUT THE TERM OF USE.

AND IT MAY BE THAT DURING THE COURSE OF THE LIFETIME OF A PROJECT, YOU MIGHT HAVE AN OPERATOR THAT'S CHANGING THE PANELS.

THE TECHNOLOGY'S CHANGED.

IT'S GOTTEN BETTER.

THAT'S HAPPENING A LOT IN THIS INDUSTRY.

AND THAT'S A GOOD THING.

AND SO WHEN THEY IF AND WHEN AN OPERATOR DOES COME BACK FOR A PERMIT RENEWAL, WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE CAN REQUIRE AN APPLICANT TO MEET WHAT IS THE MOST CURRENT OPERATIONAL STANDARDS.

SAME GO FOR BATTERY STORAGE.

YES. THIS WOULD APPLY.

YEAH. THIS WOULD APPLY FOR EVERYTHING THAT SO THE ORDINANCE ALLOWS FOR BATTERY ENERGY STORAGE AS WELL AS SUBSTATIONS AS PART OF THE

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SO IF YOU SEE IT HERE IT APPLIES TO THAT AS WELL.

IF IT'S HAPPENING TOGETHER AS PART OF ONE SOLAR FACILITY PROJECT.

SO WE'LL COVER THAT IN A LITTLE BIT.

BUT AGAIN TALKING ABOUT PERMIT RENEWALS, IT WOULD ALSO THEY WOULD HAVE TO MEET, YOU KNOW, MOST CURRENT STANDARDS FOR PUBLIC SAFETY AND WELFARE AND ACTUALLY TAKING A POINT AT THE DIRECTION OF THE BOARD.

AT THE LAST MEETING WE INCLUDED LANGUAGE TO TO REQUIRE AN APPLICANT WHO'S COMING BACK BEFORE YOU FOR A RENEWAL TO ADDRESS HABITAT AND WILDLIFE IMPACT CONSIDERATIONS.

AGAIN, A LOT CAN CHANGE.

ITEMS ACCEPTABLE TO THE BOARD AT THE TIME OF RENEWAL.

SO IT JUST IT GIVES THE BOARD THE LATITUDE AND THE LEVERAGE TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE REALLY LOOKING AT THE BIG PICTURE.

WHAT'S CHANGED ON THE LANDSCAPE PARTICULARLY WITH WITH WITH STANDARDS, INDUSTRY STANDARDS.

MOVING ON. PRELIMINARY SITE INVESTIGATIONS TO PROVIDE THE COUNTY WITH A COPY OF ANY REQUIRED NEPA REPORTS QUALIFIED PROFESSIONALS WILL CONDUCT ALL STUDIES. SO AGAIN, THIS IS NEW LANGUAGE THAT HAS BEEN ADDED SINCE THIS WAS FIRST PRESENTED TO YOU.

SOME OF THESE PROJECTS ARE GOING TO TRIGGER A FEDERAL NEPA REQUIREMENTS FOR REPORTING IF THEY'RE USING A PORTION OF THEIR PROJECT FEDERAL LANDS, FEDERAL MONIES.

OTHER FEDERAL APPROVALS.

WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY'RE FURNISHING THAT INFORMATION, BECAUSE SOMETIMES APPLICANTS CAN BE A BIT RECALCITRANT IN TRYING TO GET THE INFORMATION.

SO WE WANTED TO WRITE THAT INTO THE ORDINANCE.

YOU KNOW, BECAUSE THESE PROJECTS ARE SO BIG, THEY'RE GOING TO INTERSECT WITH WILDLIFE CONCERNS, HABITAT, CULTURAL RESOURCES.

SO WE WANT TO GUARANTEE UP FRONT THAT THEY'RE ACTUALLY HIRING QUALIFIED PROFESSIONALS TO CONDUCT THOSE STUDIES.

SO WHEN WE TALK ABOUT PRELIMINARY SITE INVESTIGATIONS, BECAUSE I DON'T HAVE THE ORDINANCE UP IN FRONT OF YOU, BUT ESSENTIALLY BEFORE AN APPLICANT SUBMITS AN APPLICATION, YOUR ORDINANCE REQUIRES THEM TO DO PRELIMINARY STUDIES TO STUDY WHAT'S KNOWN, DOING A DESKTOP STUDY TO REACH OUT TO THE VARIOUS STATE AND FEDERAL AGENCIES AND TO ACTUALLY DO ON THE GROUND SURVEYS AND HOW RIGOROUS THAT STUDY GETS REALLY DEPENDS ON WHAT THEY FIND OR WHAT WE ALREADY KNOW ABOUT IN A GIVEN SITE.

I WAS TALKING TO TWO ARCHEOLOGISTS RECENTLY, AND THEY SAID YOU'D BE HARD PRESSED TO FIND A SITE OVER 40 ACRES THAT DOESN'T INTERSECT WITH CULTURAL RESOURCES IN YAVAPAI COUNTY.

SO THIS IS IMPORTANT THAT WE GET THIS RIGHT.

SO AS PART OF THE PROCESS, WE ADDED LANGUAGE UNDER THE PRELIMINARY HABITAT WILDLIFE STUDY.

SO THAT'S ONE OF THE STUDIES AGAIN PRIOR TO SUBMISSION OF AN APPLICATION, THEY NEED TO CONSULT WITH FEDERAL WILDLIFE MANAGEMENT AGENCIES, STATE AND FEDERAL SUBMIT RESPONSES OKAY. SO THE SECOND ONE IS SUBMIT RESPONSES RECEIVED WITHIN FOUR MONTHS.

SO IN FAIRNESS TO AN APPLICANT, IF THEY'VE REACHED OUT TO THE ARIZONA GAME AND FISH OR THE BLM AND IT'S BEEN CRICKETS AND WE HAVEN'T HEARD ANYTHING, WE CAN'T WE CAN'T REQUIRE AN APPLICANT TO WAIT FOREVER.

SO WE ADDED LANGUAGE THAT WE'RE GOING TO GIVE THOSE AGENCIES FOUR MONTHS TO FURNISH RESPONSES.

SO WHEN AN APPLICANT, YOU KNOW, SOLICITS FOR INPUT THE AGENCIES NEED TO PROVIDE THAT WITHIN FOUR MONTHS.

WE THOUGHT THAT WAS REASONABLE IN A MATTER OF FAIRNESS.

THAT WAS A REQUEST THAT CAME FROM SOME OF THE INDUSTRY GROUPS.

THERE'S THE REQUIREMENT NOW TO CONSULT WITH ARIZONA GAME AND FISH TO DETERMINE WILDLIFE CORRIDORS ISSUES THAT ARE RAISED IN THE PRELIMINARY STUDY.

WHAT IS THE FINDINGS THAT ARE BROUGHT TO ATTENTION IN THOSE REPORTS MUST BE ADDRESSED IN A WILDLIFE PROTECTION PLAN.

THAT'S ALL IN THE ORDINANCE.

AND THIS IS NEWER LANGUAGE.

AND REALLY, IT'S REALLY UP TO AN APPLICANT TO FIND SITES THAT THAT DON'T HAVE THESE ISSUES, RIGHT? I MEAN, THIS, THIS STUFF REALLY COMES INTO PLAY WHEN YOU'VE GOT A SITE THAT AN APPLICANT IS PROPOSING THAT IS ENVIRONMENTALLY SENSITIVE OR CULTURALLY RICH.

THEY DON'T HAVE TO GO IN THOSE PLACES WHEN THEY DO.

AND DEPENDING ON WHAT'S FOUND ON THE GROUND, YES, IN THOSE INSTANCES, THE ORDINANCE WOULD REQUIRE A WILDLIFE PROTECTION PLAN.

THE GOOD NEWS IS, WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THINGS LIKE MOBILE WILDLIFE AND BIG GAME, THE ARIZONA GAME AND FISH DEPARTMENT ACTUALLY HAS A LOT OF GOOD DATA.

THEY NEED MORE DATA AND WE'LL TALK ABOUT THAT TOO.

BUT THEY'VE HAD A LOT OF GOOD INPUT ON THE DEVELOPMENT OF THIS ORDINANCE AND PARTICULARLY THERE'S REALLY GOOD INFORMATION OUT THERE ON WHERE THESE MIGRATION CORRIDORS ARE FOR BIG GAME.

AND SO IT'S NOT JUST LIKE CREATING, YOU KNOW, QUARTERS THAT DON'T MATTER OR AREN'T ACTUALLY GOING TO FACILITATE WILDLIFE.

IT'S ACTUALLY, YOU KNOW, REQUIRING APPLICANTS TO ADDRESS THEM WHEN THOSE CORRIDORS ACTUALLY EXIST AND WHERE THEY'RE IMPORTANT.

SO THAT GETS US TO THE PRELIMINARY CULTURAL STUDY.

A COUPLE CHANGES. SO WE ALREADY HAD LANGUAGE REQUIRING A CLASS ONE AND TWO CULTURAL RESOURCE SURVEY.

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NOW, THE ADDED LANGUAGE THAT THAT COULD THAT PROCESS COULD TRIGGER A CLASS THREE, WHICH IS A MUCH MORE RIGOROUS ANALYSIS BASED ON DISCOVERIES OR RECOMMENDATIONS, WHICH MAY COME FROM YOU, THE BOARD, WHICH MAY COME FROM PROFESSIONALS ON, YOU KNOW, MUSEUM OF NORTHERN ARIZONA, OR MORE PRECISELY, PROBABLY ENTITIES LIKE THE STATE HISTORIC PRESERVATION OFFICE.

OKAY. THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WAS REMOVED FROM THE ORDINANCE.

I MENTIONED EARLIER THAT WE FOUND THAT THERE WERE SOME REQUIREMENTS THAT WE HAD THAT REALLY AREN'T APPLICABLE TO ARIZONA BECAUSE THERE'S OTHER JURISDICTIONS.

AND SO THIS APPLIES FOR WE REMOVE THE REQUIREMENTS RELATING TO TRANSMISSION LINES AND INTERCONNECTIONS.

THERE WAS LANGUAGE IN THE ORDINANCE PREVIOUSLY THAT TALKED ABOUT, YOU KNOW, STUDIES AND SITING, BUT THAT REALLY IS ALREADY UNDER THE PURVIEW AND JURISDICTION OF THE ARIZONA CORPORATION COMMISSION.

MOVING ON.

WE ADDED LANGUAGE REGARDING POST-CONSTRUCTION WILDLIFE CORRIDOR MONITORING PLAN TO VALIDATE THE EFFECTIVENESS OF IMPLEMENTED CORRIDORS AND TO CONSULT WITH THE ARIZONA GAME AND FISH AND COUNTY.

SO AGAIN, THIS ONLY COMES INTO PLAY IF YOU'VE PROPOSED A PROJECT AND IT OBTAINED APPROVAL, BUT IT INTERSECTED WITH AN IMPORTANT WILDLIFE CORRIDOR.

WE WANT TO KNOW AFTER CONSTRUCTION DID THE CORRIDOR WORK THAT WAY WHEN THEY COME BACK, WHEN THE OPERATOR COMES BACK FOR A RENEWAL 40 YEARS FROM NOW, WE CAN USE THAT DATA TO MAKE A BETTER DECISION OR MAKE A CHANGE, OR THERE'S A REAL INTEREST ACROSS THE STATE BECAUSE LIKE WE HEARD TODAY FROM APS, OTHER MUNICIPALITIES AND COUNTIES ARE CONSIDERING LIKEWISE, ORDINANCES THAT WE CAN REALLY START MAKING MORE SCIENTIFICALLY BASED DECISIONS ABOUT THINGS LIKE MOBILE WILDLIFE.

AND SO WE WANT TO GET THE DATA ESSENTIALLY.

AND THAT WAS ACTUALLY AN IDEA THAT CAME FROM THIS BOARD AT THE PREVIOUS MEETING.

THAT'S NOW IN THE ORDINANCE.

MR. CHAIR, I GOT A QUESTION.

YOU KNOW, I'VE TALKED TO THE ARIZONA CORPORATION COMMISSION, AND THEY DO NOT DO ANY PERMITTING ON NONTHERMAL ENERGY SOURCES, WHICH SOLAR IS. I ASKED THEM, WHAT DID THEY HAVE ANY RESPONSIBILITY WHATSOEVER? THEY SAID, YEAH, THEY HAVE A LINE SITING COMMITTEE THAT APPROVES WHERE THE LINES ARE GOING TO GO.

SO I CAN UNDERSTAND WHY YOU'RE SAYING MAYBE WE DON'T HAVE ANY RESPONSIBILITY FOR THAT, BUT I HAVE NOT HEARD WHAT THEY SAY.

WHEN A FACILITY GOES AWAY AND THEIR LINES ARE STILL SITTING THERE, WHETHER OR NOT THEY'RE GOING TO BE REQUIRING THOSE LINES TO BE REMOVED AND ALL THE TOWERS ARE BEING REMOVED.

DO YOU KNOW FOR A FACT THAT THE LINE SITING COMMITTEE ACTUALLY TAKES RESPONSIBILITY FOR FACILITIES AND LINES THAT ARE NO LONGER IN USE? SO I'M NOT AN EXPERT ON THAT QUESTION.

I KNOW I THINK WE NEED TO GET THAT ANSWERED.

I KNOW YOU TOOK IT OUT OF THE ORDINANCE, WHICH I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH, AS LONG AS SOMEBODY IS LOOKING AT THAT.

AND I THINK WE NEED TO LOOK INTO THAT VERY CLOSELY AND MAKE SURE EXACTLY WHAT THEY'RE GOING TO BE RESPONSIBLE FOR.

YEAH. AND IF THERE'S GOING TO BE LEFT TO US TO FIGURE OUT SOMETHING TO DO, THEN WE NEED TO HAVE IT IN HERE.

SO THANK YOU, SUPERVISOR OBERG.

WE DID TALK TO THE PUBLIC AGENCIES AND THE INDUSTRY GROUPS, AND SO WE DID A PRETTY RIGOROUS ANALYSIS OF, YOU KNOW, WHO IS ACTUALLY DOING THIS, IF NOT, IF NOT THE COUNTY.

AND AT THE TIME, WE FELT COMFORTABLE THAT THAT IS IN FACT, COVERED.

THERE IS, IN FACT, PROBABLY A THIRD OF THIS ORDINANCE ADDRESSES DECOMMISSIONING AND RECLAMATION.

WHEN WE REVIEWED MANY OTHER ORDINANCES AND OTHER MUNICIPAL JURISDICTIONS SOMETIMES IT WAS JUST A FEW LINES.

AND SO, YOU KNOW, TO YOUR CONCERN, LIKE WE REALLY DID MAKE AN ATTEMPT TO ADDRESS THOSE CONCERNS ADEQUATELY SO STUFF ISN'T LEFT TO ROT OUT ON THE LANDSCAPE.

NOW, APS AND OTHERS ARE HERE THAT MIGHT BE ABLE TO KIND OF SPEAK TO THAT.

I JUST DON'T RECALL OFFHAND THAT THE SPECIFICITY OF THAT.

WELL, I'D LIKE TO GET AN ANSWER TO THAT.

OKAY. SO THAT WE KNOW EXACTLY WHERE WE STAND.

I APPRECIATE IT. THANKS.

OKAY. SO, LIKE, I'M UNDERSTANDING THIS, THE LINES, THE EXISTING LINES FOR THE INFRASTRUCTURE WILL NOT BE REMOVED.

IT'S NOT ADDRESSED WHEN YOU'RE DECOMMISSIONING A SOLAR PLANT.

THAT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT STATE LANDS LEASING THE LAND.

AND WE WOULD HAVE THAT IN THERE TO REMOVE ALL THAT AND BRING THAT.

SO HOW I UNDERSTAND THE ORDINANCE IS WE REALLY FOCUS ON WHAT'S SPECIFIC TO THE APPLICATION, I THINK IN MANY INSTANCES IS THAT A LOT OF THE STUFF THAT THEY'RE CONNECTING TO THE INTERCONNECTION LINES AND THAT'S, OFF SITE OF A PROJECT AND NOT UNDER THE PURVIEW OF THE COUNTY.

THAT WAS, YOU KNOW, BEFORE THE LINE SITING THE CEC.

BUT IN MANY CASES, A LOT'S GOING TO CHANGE OVER TIME.

WE'RE GOING TO SEE MORE DEVELOPMENT.

I HAVE TO THINK THAT IN MANY CASES, THE LIFETIME OF THAT TYPE OF ENERGY INFRASTRUCTURE IS GOING TO OUTLIVE THE ENERGY PROJECT,

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THAT STILL HAS TREMENDOUS VALUE.

SO A LOT OF THAT STUFF PROBABLY ISN'T GOING ANYWHERE.

IT MIGHT NOT BE SERVING THAT PROJECT AT THE CONCLUSION OF ITS LIFETIME, BUT IT'S GOING TO BE SERVING EVERYTHING ELSE THAT WE DEPEND ON.

DON'T HESITATE. KEEP GOING.

I'M GOING TO KEEP GOING.

ALL RIGHT. SO ANOTHER CHANGE WAS IS THAT EVERY EVERY PROJECT IS DIFFERENT.

AND THERE'S GOING TO BE INSTANCES WHERE YOU GOT THE RIGHT PROJECT IN THE RIGHT PLACE BECAUSE THERE'S A SUBSTATION RIGHT THERE.

AND IT JUST IT JUST MAKES SENSE FOR A LOT OF REASONS.

BUT, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE OF THE LANGUAGE IN THE ORDINANCE, YOU HAVE CERTAIN SETBACKS AND THINGS.

IT RUNS AFOUL WITH SOME OF THE REQUIREMENTS, THE ORDINANCE.

MAYBE IT'S A SETBACK. AND SO WRITTEN INTO THE ORDINANCE AND THIS IS STANDARD FOR MOST ORDINANCES IS RIGHT FOR MOST ORDINANCES LIKE THIS IS THE PROVISION FOR AN APPLICANT TO SEEK A WAIVER. NOW, THAT WOULD BE PART OF A PUBLIC PROCESS VETTED BY YOU, WEIGHED IN BY THE PUBLIC.

VERY IMPORTANT. RIGHT.

AND THE LANGUAGE WITH RESPECT TO THE CONDITIONS UPON WHICH THE BOXES THAT AN APPLICANT NEEDS TO TO CHECK OFF WHEN THEY'RE DEMONSTRATING THE VALIDITY AND APPROPRIATENESS TO REQUEST A WAIVER, WHICH YOU DON'T HAVE TO APPROVE.

YOU KNOW, THAT'S ALL THERE.

BUT WHAT WE WANTED TO DO, ONE OF THE CHANGES WAS THAT WE MADE IS THAT IN THOSE INSTANCES WHERE THE BOARD REALLY WANTS TO GRANT A WAIVER, BUT THAT WAIVER WOULD COME AT A COST, SOME RESOURCE GETS IMPACTED, AND THIS HAPPENS ALL THE TIME.

WHAT TYPE OF COMPENSATION, WHAT KIND OF MITIGATION? IS THERE SOMETHING ELSE? IF WE ALL IF YOU AGREE THAT YOU KNOW THIS, THIS BUFFER IS IS TOO LARGE.

IT'S PROBLEMATIC, BUT WE OTHERWISE WANT THE PROJECT.

WHAT CAN WE ASK THE APPLICANT TO DO LEGALLY HAS TO BE SET FORTH IN THE ORDINANCE TO CREATE SOME OFF SITE, OTHER MITIGATION THAT COMPENSATES FOR THAT LOSS.

AND SO WE LOOKED AT A LOT OF STANDARD LANGUAGES AND OTHER ORDINANCES AND ADDED THAT AS PART OF A WAIVER REQUEST, POSSIBLE MITIGATION, THAT, AGAIN, IT WOULD ALL BE UNDER YOUR PURVIEW. YOU WOULD DETERMINE WHETHER OR NOT YOU WANT TO GRANT A WAIVER AND WHETHER OR NOT YOU WANT TO EVEN CONSIDER MITIGATION COMPENSATION.

BUT SOME OF THE OPTIONS THAT ARE SET FORTH IN THE ORDINANCE ALLOW FOR A RATIO OF 3 TO 1 ACRES FOR EVERY AFFECTED ACRE.

SO IF YOU'RE GOING TO IF YOU'RE GOING TO DEVELOP AN IMPORTANT YOU KNOW, ACRE THAT MIGHT BE IMPORTANT TO WILDLIFE, NOTHING REPLACES THAT LOSS.

SO WE'RE GOING TO ASK FOR, YOU KNOW, A 3 TO 1 COMPENSATION OF EQUIVALENT HABITAT AND RESOURCE AND THE WAIVER REQUEST MITIGATE OTHER MITIGATION EXAMPLES IN THE ORDINANCE INCLUDE THE ABILITY TO EFFECTUATE CONSERVATION EASEMENTS.

SO MAYBE THEY'RE PRESERVING LAND ON THE SITE OR OFF THE SITE.

MAYBE IT'S A RIVER CORRIDOR, LONG TERM RESTORATION.

YOU KNOW, MAYBE THEY'RE GOING TO CONTRIBUTE FOR THE RESTORATION OF A HABITAT OR A WILDLIFE CORRIDOR.

MAYBE THEY'RE GOING TO PARTNER WITH ARIZONA GAME AND FISH STEWARDSHIP.

THEY MAY EFFECTUATE.

THERE'S A LOT THAT YOU CAN DO ON IT.

WHEN YOU ADD ALL OF THE SETBACKS AND AREAS THAT ARE GOING TO BE CLIPPED OUT BECAUSE THERE'S HABITAT, THERE'S GOING TO BE A LOT OF PROJECTS WHERE THE IMPROVEMENTS OCCUPY A PORTION OF THE PROJECT. MAYBE IT'S 3000 ACRES, BUT THERE MAY BE A WHOLE THOUSAND ACRES THAT ARE UNTOUCHED, BUT REALLY PART OF THE PROJECT.

THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS THAT THEY CAN DO WITH THOSE REMAINING AREAS THAT MIGHT BE OF GREAT VALUE IN THE PUBLIC INTEREST, INCLUDING LONG TERM WILDLIFE STUDIES.

THIS WAS ACTUALLY A COMMENT THAT CAME TO US AS PART OF A GROUP LETTER FROM A NUMBER OF SPORTSMEN ORGANIZATIONS AND CONSERVATION GROUPS, AND IT MADE SENSE FOR US TO ADDRESS IT HERE. OKAY.

APPLICATION REVIEW TIME.

THIS WAS A SUGGESTED QUESTION THAT CAME OUT OF THE P&Z MEETING.

CURRENTLY, THE ORDINANCE WAS LOOKING FOR A 90 DAY REVIEW TIME FOR DEVELOPMENT SERVICES STAFF.

I THINK AT THIS POINT WE CAN ALL RECOGNIZE THAT THIS IS A PRETTY COMPLEX ORDINANCE.

IT'S ABOUT 30 PAGES, THERE'S A LOT TO REVIEW, AND IT MAY EVEN INVOLVE PROFESSIONALS OUTSIDE OF DEVELOPMENT SERVICES.

AND SO THE SUGGESTION WAS WE OUGHT TO INCREASE THAT NUMBER TO BE REALISTIC OF THE TIME IT'S GOING TO TAKE TO MEANINGFULLY REVIEW SUCH PLANS.

AND SO THE ORDINANCE NOW RECOMMENDS 180 DAYS FOR DEVELOPMENT SERVICES, REVIEW OF APPLICATION RELATED MATERIALS FOR THESE PROJECTS.

MOVING TO CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL, WE ADDED LANGUAGE THAT THE CONDITIONS WOULD BE BINDING NOT JUST ON APPLICANT OWNER OPERATOR, BUT THEIR SUCCESSORS.

APPLICANT WOULD BE REQUIRED TO PROVIDE A LIST OF OUTSIDE AGREEMENT LEASES PERTAINING TO THE PROJECT.

IT'S SOMETIMES THERE ARE SENSITIVE INFORMATION, AND THEY WOULD HAVE THE ABILITY TO SUBMIT AN AFFIDAVIT ACKNOWLEDGING RESPONSIBILITY.

SO SOMETIMES THERE'S SENSITIVE INFORMATION THAT GETS REDACTED.

BUT ESSENTIALLY THIS IS JUST MIRRORING A LOT OF THE LEGALESE THAT YOU FIND IN OTHER ORDINANCES.

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AND SO OUR FEELING WAS IN LOOKING AT A LOT OF THIS LANGUAGE.

WELL, IF IT'S GOOD ENOUGH FOR THE STATE LAND DEPARTMENT, WHO'S ACTUALLY IN THE BUSINESS OF LEASING OUT A LOT OF LAND FOR SOLAR RIGHT NOW, THAT IT MIGHT MAKE SENSE TO HAVE IT REFLECTED HERE. SO THAT'S WHY YOU SEE IT.

LIABILITY INSURANCE, THIS IS ANOTHER CHANGE.

THIS WAS A REQUEST THAT CAME FROM OUR VERY OWN DEVELOPMENT SERVICES HR TO INCREASE THE MINIMUM LIMITS OF 1 MILLION PER OCCURRENCE.

2 MILLION AGGREGATE COUNTY IS ADDITIONAL INSURED.

PRIMARY NON CONTRIBUTORY A COUNTY MAY REQUIRE HIGHER LIMITS.

I CAN TELL YOU THAT NOT EVERYBODY WAS HAPPY WITH ADDING THAT MORE PROTECTIVE LANGUAGE.

BUT AGAIN NOBODY KNOWS WHAT THE FUTURE HOLDS.

AND THIS IS QUITE A LIFETIME FOR THESE PROJECTS.

AND A LOT CAN HAPPEN.

MAYBE SOMETHING CAN GO WRONG.

AND WE JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THE COUNTY IS ADEQUATELY PROTECTED.

I WILL NOTE THAT, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, WITH ALL OF THESE CHANGES, IT HAS BEEN REVIEWED BY COUNCIL DEVELOPMENT SERVICES AND COUNCIL FOR THE BOARD.

SO THOSE FOLKS WHO UNDERSTAND THESE LEGAL QUESTIONS BETTER THAN I, THEY FELT VERY COMFORTABLE WITH THIS LANGUAGE.

AND I'LL NOTE THAT YOU'RE NOT REALLY SEEING THE ACTUAL LANGUAGE.

I'M JUST KIND OF SUMMARIZING IT SO WE CAN GET THROUGH THE PROCESS.

BUT IF YOU NEED TO STOP ME, WE CAN CERTAINLY MINIMIZE THE SCREEN.

WE CAN PULL UP THE ORDINANCE AND WE CAN GO OVER THE LANGUAGE AT THE END IF THERE'S ONE TOPIC LIKE LET'S SAY YOU JUST WANT TO NOT SO MUCH DWELL, DELVE INTO WHAT THE PROPOSED CHANGES, BUT YOU WANT TO SEE KIND OF A SUMMARY OF SPECIFIC SECTIONS.

MAYBE IT'S RECLAMATION AND DECOMMISSIONING.

I CAN PULL UP THOSE SLIDES FROM A PRIOR PRESENTATION THAT HAVE A NICE OUTLINE FOR YOUR BENEFIT.

OKAY. MOVING ON.

SO WE ALSO THE LANGUAGE WAS CHANGED TO REQUIRE COMPLIANCE WITH OTHER AGENCIES.

I MENTIONED THAT GUIDELINES FOR SPECIAL STATUS SPECIES.

RIGHT. WE CALL THESE YOUR THREATENED ENDANGERED SPECIES.

THINGS LIKE THIS.

ISSUES CONCERNING WILDLIFE.

THE REQUIREMENT FOR CONSULTATION WITH SHPO STATE HISTORIC PRESERVATION OFFICE, CULTURAL RESOURCES, HUMAN REMAINS, FUNERARY RIGHT.

YOU CAN'T TRAMPLE OR DESTROY THOSE TYPES OF OBJECTS.

REQUIREMENTS FOR DISCOVERY AND REPORTING, SITE ARTIFACT AND PRESERVATION.

SO REALLY THIS LANGUAGE IS MIRRORING REQUIREMENTS THAT ARE ALREADY IN PLACE.

WE TAKE IT ONE YOU THE COUNTY ARE TAKING IT ONE STEP FORWARD IN THAT I'M NOT AWARE OF OTHER ORDINANCES THAT WE HAVE IN PLACE AT THIS TIME THAT REALLY REQUIRE APPLICANTS TO PROTECT SIGNIFICANT ARCHEOLOGICAL SITES.

THIS MAY BE A FIRST FOR THE COUNTY, AND IT MAY BE AN IMPORTANT ONE BECAUSE, AGAIN, PROJECTS OF 3000 OR MORE ACRES, IT'S NOT UNLIKELY THAT THEY'RE GOING TO INTERSECT WITH SITES, SOME OF WHICH MAY BE VERY SIGNIFICANT.

OKAY. SO THERE IT IS A HIGHLIGHT.

HERE'S THE FIRST OF I THINK THE FIVE RECOMMENDATIONS THAT SPECIFICALLY CAME FROM THE P&Z.

WE HAVE THEM IN GREATER DETAIL AT THE END AS SPECIFIC EXHIBITS SHOULD YOU WANT TO ADOPT THE APPROVAL WITH INCLUSION OF THOSE EXHIBITS.

BUT THIS IS KIND OF AN IMPORTANT ONE.

ORIGINALLY YOU RECALL THAT DEVELOPMENT SERVICES WROTE INTO THE ORIGINAL DRAFT A CAP, WHICH IS WHAT'S THE MAXIMUM CUMULATIVE? NOT PER PROJECT THAT'S 3000 ACRES, BUT FOR ALL THE PROJECTS COMBINED.

WHAT IS THE CAP? WE STARTED AT 8000 ACRES.

WHEN WE GOT TO THE SECOND AND FINAL DRAFT THAT WAS PRESENTED BEFORE THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION, WE WERE AT 10,000, TRYING TO BE RESPONSIVE, TRYING TO FIND A BALANCE BETWEEN ALL THE ADVOCATES THAT ARE FOR SOLAR AND THINK THIS IS A GOOD THING AND WANT UNLIMITED AMOUNT OF SPACE AVAILABLE FOR UTILITY SCALE SOLAR.

AND THOSE THAT FELT LIKE WE MAYBE SHOULD TAKE A MORE CONSERVATIVE GUARDED APPROACH.

SO COMING OUT OF THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION, THEY ACTUALLY CHANGED IT FROM 10,000 TO TO 12,000 ACRES AS THE CAP.

SO I'LL JUST SAY, GIVEN THE SCALE OF ONE PROJECT, ONE PROJECT COULD BE 100,000 ACRES OR MORE.

WE HAVE MILLION ACRE PROJECTS IN THE STATE OF ARIZONA.

SO AND YOU COULD SEE MANY OF THESE AT ANY TIME.

THEY COULD COME TO YOU AT ANY TIME FOR A USE PERMIT.

SO DEVELOPMENT SERVICES, OUR POSITION HAS BEEN THAT AT THIS TIME BEING THE NEWNESS OF THE ORDINANCE, THE NEWNESS OF THESE PROJECTS TO YAVAPAI COUNTY TO TAKE MORE OF A WAIT AND SEE APPROACH VERSUS JUST KIND OF OPENING UP THE FLOODGATES, AND INSTEAD ALLOW THE COUNTY TO GET A FEW GOOD PROJECTS UNDER ITS BELT AND TEST THE EFFICACY OF THE ORDINANCE.

AND KEEP IN MIND, THE ORDINANCE WOULD ALLOW UTILITY SCALE ANYWHERE IN THE RCU DISTRICT, THAT'S LIKE OVER TWO THIRDS OF THE COUNTY.

SO IF UTILITY SCALE, IF YOU COULD FIT THAT IN A BOX LIKE LIGHT INDUSTRIAL.

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I DON'T EVEN KNOW IF THAT OCCUPIES 1% OF THE COUNTY.

SO WE ALREADY RESTRICT USES TO DISTRICTS AND DISTRICTS HAVE ACREAGES.

SO WE'VE HEARD A LOT OF COMMENTS.

YOU KNOW, WHY ARE YOU DOING THIS.

HOW COULD YOU DO THIS. WELL THAT'S HOW ZONING WORKS.

YOU LIMIT USES AND ACTIVITIES TO CERTAIN ZONING DISTRICTS.

THAT'S ALWAYS BEEN TRUE BECAUSE THE RCU DISTRICT IS SUCH A MASSIVE AMOUNT OF THE COUNTY IN THIS COUNTY IS THE SIZE OF NEW JERSEY.

RIGHT? SO AND IF THIS AREA IS TWO THIRDS OF THE COUNTY.

A LOT OF WHAT IS OUT THERE TODAY IF THAT ZONE HAS ALWAYS BEEN SORT OF A HOLDOVER AREA.

WE HAVEN'T REALLY GOTTEN AROUND TO PROVIDING COMPREHENSIVE ZONING FOR THE RCU DISTRICT.

AND SO WHAT TYPICALLY IS ALLOWED THERE TODAY THAT'S TAKEN PLACE IS, YOU KNOW, VERY LOW DENSITY RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT.

PEOPLE MOVE OUT THERE. THEY HAVE CERTAIN EXPECTATIONS.

THE REALITY IS ZONING, YOU KNOW, CAN AND WILL PROBABLY CHANGE IN THOSE AREAS.

BUT THAT AREA ALSO ENCOMPASSES, YOU KNOW, MUCH OF THE RURAL NATURE OF THE COUNTY AND IT'S ENVIRONMENTALLY SENSITIVE AREAS.

AND SO THERE'S MANY AREAS OF THE RCU DISTRICT THAT WOULD BE ENTIRELY INAPPROPRIATE FOR UTILITY SCALE SOLAR.

THAT'S WHY WE HAVE ALL THESE RESTRICTIONS IN PLACE, BECAUSE AT THIS TIME, WITHOUT AN APPLICATION BEFORE YOU, WE HAVE NO IDEA WHERE AN APPLICATION OR A PROPOSED PROJECT MIGHT GO. AND I WOULD SAY THAT, YOU KNOW, AT ANY TIME AN APPLICANT CAN REQUEST A WAIVER.

RIGHT. SO A WAIVER COULD BE FROM A SETBACK.

A WAIVER COULD BE FROM THE CAP.

AND SO, YOU KNOW, YOU MIGHT GET A RUN ON PROJECTS AFTER ASSUMING IF THIS ORDINANCE GETS ADOPTED.

AND SO IT MAY BE VERY QUICKLY THAT AN APPLICANT COMES TO YOU.

AND IF THEY HAVE A WORTHY PROJECT, BUT THEY NEED A WAIVER TO DO IT, YOU MAY THE BOARD MAY SEE FIT TO GRANT IT, PUT IT IN AN AREA WHERE IT'S NOT APPROPRIATE AND YOU MAY NOT.

THE OTHER THING I WOULD SUGGEST HERE IS THAT THE COMBINED BOARD AND PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION HAVE JOINT SESSION TWICE A YEAR.

AND EVERY YEAR WE REVISIT DEVELOPMENT SERVICES, COMES TO YOU WITH AN AGENDA OF ITEMS THAT WE WANT TO REVISIT, WHETHER IT'S A PLANNING TASK OR MAYBE MAKING AN AMENDMENT TO AN ORDINANCE THAT'S NO LONGER WORKING OR SOMETHING NEW.

AND SO WE WOULD SUGGEST IS DEVELOPMENT SERVICES, IS, YOU KNOW, WE WOULD PROPOSE TO REVISIT THE ORDINANCE AND THE CAP ONCE A YEAR AS AT ONE OF THE JOINT SESSION MEETINGS.

SO IT'S NOT LIKE THE BOARD DOESN'T HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO REVISIT THE CAP.

REALLY, YOU CAN DO IT AT ANY TIME.

SO WE CAN ADDRESS THIS AT THE END, BUT THIS IS GOING TO BE AN ITEM WHERE REALLY WE'RE LOOKING THE STAFF IS LOOKING TO THE BOARD FOR WHAT IF WE DECIDE IF YOU DECIDE YOU WANT TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THE ORDINANCE, DO YOU WANT TO RETAIN THE CAP CURRENTLY PROPOSED BY THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION FOR 12,000 ACRES? IS THAT TOO HIGH? IS THAT TOO LOW? I DON'T THINK WE FEEL STRONGLY IN EITHER DIRECTION.

WE DO FEEL THAT AT THIS TIME, A CAP, IT WOULD BE VERY PRUDENT.

BUT WE'RE LOOKING TO YOU FOR DIRECTION ON WHAT THE MAGIC NUMBER IS AT THIS TIME.

AND MATT, I MEAN, OUR GOAL HERE IS NOT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE DON'T HAVE AN ISLAND OF YAVAPAI COUNTY BECOMES THE SOLAR CAPITAL OF THE US.

WE DON'T WANT THAT.

I THINK THAT CAP AND I LIKE THE 10,000 ACRE NUMBER.

IT RESTRICTS ON HOW MANY OF THESE UTILITY PLANTS CAN COME WITHIN THE COUNTY.

AND I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT AS A BOARD WE CAN LOOK AT THAT AND RESTRICT IT AT 10,000.

AND THEN LATER ON, IF THERE'S SOME REASON WE WANT TO LOOK AT TO INCREASE IT OR DECREASE IT, WE CAN DO THAT.

BUT WE HAVE THAT OPTION AT A LATER DATE.

BUT I THINK THAT'S PROBABLY THE MOST IMPORTANT PART OF THIS ORDINANCE, IS MAKING SURE THAT WE RESTRICT ON WHAT COMES INTO YAVAPAI COUNTY.

SO, MR. CHAIRMAN, I COULDN'T AGREE MORE, FOR A NUMBER OF REASONS THAT WE'VE ALREADY REVIEWED.

BUT WHAT'S NOT CLEAR TO ME IS HOW DID ANYBODY ARRIVE AT THAT NUMBER? YOU KNOW, MY SENSE IS IF WE GOT TO HAVE THEM, WE CONTAIN THEM AS SMALL AS POSSIBLE.

BUT THAT'S MY PERSONAL SENSE.

BUT I DON'T KNOW ON WHAT SCIENCE WE'RE MAKING THIS DECISION.

MR. CHAIRMAN, I BELIEVE IT WOULD BE PRUDENT TO HAVE A CAP, AND I CAN DEFINITELY AGREE WITH THE 10,000.

I DON'T THINK WE SHOULD GO ABOVE THAT.

THAT'S SOMETHING THAT CAN BE LOOKED AT BY FUTURE BOARDS IF THERE'S A NEED TO INCREASE THE CAP.

BUT I THINK RIGHT NOW TEN MAKES A LOT OF SENSE TO ME AND I'D SUPPORT THAT.

AND DETERMINATION OF LOCATION AND WHAT ELSE THE BOARD MAY DECIDE WITH GOING.

YOU KNOW, SOMEBODY COMES IN AND ASKS FOR 10,000 AND THEY SAY, NO, WE'LL GIVE YOU SIX.

AND THAT'S IT. DEPENDS UPON WHERE IT'S AT, WHO IT AFFECTS WILDLIFE CORRIDORS, THINGS LIKE THAT.

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BUT JUST AS A ROUND NUMBER I AGREE WITH HARRY 10,000 PROBABLY SEEMS OKAY.

YEAH. IT DOESN'T APPEAR TO BE A ZERO SUM GAME.

I LIKE THAT WE HAVE THE FLEXIBILITY AND THE FUNCTION TO INTERVENE AS THE PROJECT SUGGESTS WE SHOULD. AND AGAIN, I, YOU KNOW, MY, PERSONAL SENSE IS THAT THE SMALLER THE BETTER UNTIL WE KNOW WHAT THE HECK WE'RE DOING HERE.

I DON'T KNOW, THAT'S JUST FOR ME, BUT I CERTAINLY WANT TO BE ABLE TO HAVE THE FLEXIBILITY, MATT, TOO AS WE GO IN THIS EVOLUTIONARY PROCESS.

WE CAN LOOK AT EACH APPLICANT ON ITS MERITS AND MAKE THOSE KIND OF INFORMED DECISIONS.

GO AHEAD.

ULTIMATELY, THE BURDEN IS ON THE APPLICANT TO COME TO YOU WITH WORTHY PROJECTS, AND THE NUMBERS CAN CHANGE.

AND THE PROOF IS IN THE PUDDING.

WHAT I'LL JUST SAY TO KIND OF FINISH THAT THREAD.

AND I THINK I'M RECEIVING INPUT ON DIRECTION ON THE BOARD AT 10,000 ACRES.

BUT IF ANYONE SUGGESTS OTHERWISE, NOW IS PROBABLY A GOOD TIME TO HEAR THAT SUGGESTION.

BUT THE BOARD JUST RECENTLY ADOPTED A BUDGET THAT PURPOSED MONIES TO TO DO A COMPREHENSIVE UPDATE OF THE PLANNING AND ZONING CODE, BECAUSE JUST LAST YEAR YOU UPDATED YOUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.

YOU WANT TO BRING YOUR ZONING IN LINE WITH WITH THAT PLAN.

AS PART OF THAT PROCESS, THAT MIGHT BE A VERY GOOD OPPORTUNITY TO LOOK AT THE MAPPING AND START DETERMINING WHERE ARE THE AREAS WHERE NOT JUST SOLAR, BUT LOTS OF LAND USES MAY BE INAPPROPRIATE BECAUSE OF THEIR SENSITIVITY, BECAUSE PEOPLE ENJOY AND WANT TO PROTECT THE RURAL LIFESTYLE.

AND WHAT ARE AREAS BECAUSE OF PROXIMITY TO INTERCHANGES, CONNECTION LINES, SUBSTATIONS, BECAUSE THEY'RE JUST BARREN HABITAT AND NOT IN ANYBODY'S CRITICAL VIEW SHED ARE REALLY APPROPRIATE.

AND THEN TO DESIGN A NEW STANDALONE ZONE SO THAT WE CAN INCENTIVIZE THOSE USE IN THOSE AREAS BY MAKING IT A BY RIGHT USE.

EVEN WITH THE ZONING IN PLACE, APPLICANTS STILL NEED A USE PERMIT.

THAT'S A VERY DIFFERENT PROCESS THAN HAVING A BY RIGHT USE WHERE YOUR ZONING SPECIFICALLY SAYS SOLAR UTILITY SCALE SOLAR IS ALLOWED HERE.

AND YOU KNOW, SO IF YOU DID WANT TO UNLEASH A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF SOLAR IN AREAS THAT ARE REALLY PRIMED AND APPROPRIATE FOR SOLAR, THAT COULD BE ANOTHER PROCESS THAT WE CAN VISIT WITH THE UPDATE OF THE ZONING CODE.

AND THEN MAYBE YOU LEAVE THIS ZONING IN PLACE SHOULD THEY DECIDE TO GO TO CONSIDER OTHER LOCATIONS IN THE COUNTY IN THE RCU ZONE.

OKAY. SO I'M GOING TO MOVE ON.

SO LOCATIONS AND DIMENSIONS, AND THIS IS KIND OF AN AREA WHERE I THINK IT WOULD BE HELPFUL TO GET SOME ADDITIONAL DIRECTION FROM THE BOARD.

SO YOU KNOW, PREVIOUSLY IT WAS A MILE SETBACK FROM CITY LIMITS TAKING INTO ACCOUNT THAT SOME OF THESE TOWNS ARE GOING TO GROW, THEY'RE GOING TO ANNEX LAND, AND WE DON'T WANT TO OCCUPY WHAT MAY BE STRATEGICALLY IMPORTANT LAND FOR OTHER USES.

RIGHT. SOLAR ISN'T THE ONLY LAND USE IN THE GAME HERE.

SO ONE CHANGE THAT WE MADE WAS TO AND THIS WAS REALLY AFTER A LOT OF LOBBYING FROM INDUSTRY GROUPS AND OTHERS.

AND SO HERE AGAIN, I'M REALLY WE ARE LOOKING TO THE BOARD FOR A DIRECTION.

WE PROPOSE TO REDUCE THIS UP TO A HALF MILE FROM INCORPORATED TOWN MINUTES.

AGAIN, THE IDEA, THE THOUGHT PROCESS BEING IS THAT THESE PROJECTS CAN'T JUST GO ANYWHERE.

THEY REALLY WANT TO GO NEAR THE BUILT ENVIRONMENT FOR ALL OF THE INTERCONNECTION.

SO THAT WAS ONE CHANGE.

THE OTHER WAS TO ALLOW IT UP TO A QUARTER MILE.

IN THOSE INSTANCES WHERE YOU HAVE A MUNICIPALITY THAT ACTUALLY ENDORSES THAT CHANGE THROUGH A RESOLUTION.

SO THAT WOULD BE AT A PUBLIC MEETING.

AND THEN IN THAT CASE, IF YOU HAVE A TOWN THAT SAYS, WELL, WAIT A MINUTE, HERE'S A SUBSTATION, HERE'S OUR NEW LIGHT INDUSTRIAL DISTRICT, WE REALLY NEED THIS AND WANT IT.

WE DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM BECAUSE NOBODY LIVES.

WE DON'T HAVE ANY RESIDENTIAL AREAS THERE.

IT'S NOT ENVIRONMENTALLY SENSITIVE.

BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY, EVEN IF A TOWN WANTS IT TO BE CLOSER, YOU STILL GET TO SAY NO.

SO THAT WAS ANOTHER CHANGE.

BUT AGAIN, I THINK THIS IS ONE OF THOSE WHERE I THINK STAFF WOULD LOOK TO YOU FOR DIRECTION.

IS THAT ACCEPTABLE TO YOU THESE CHANGES OR.

DID ANY CITY OR TOWNS HAVE COMMENT IN REGARDS TO IT ON DISTANCE THEY WOULD LIKE TO SEE IT AWAY FROM THEIR BOUNDARIES, SHALL WE SAY.

NO, WE HAVEN'T SEEN RECEIVED ANY COMMENTS SPECIFIC TO THAT CHANGE.

OKAY. I MEAN REALLY THIS IS THE IDEA OF SORT OF PROVIDING SOME FLEXIBILITY WHEN SOMETHING MAKES SENSE SO THAT THEY DON'T HAVE TO COME FOR A WAIVER. BUT YOU COULD SAY IT'S A WAIVER AND THAT'S FINE TOO.

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DISTANCE BETWEEN SOLAR AND BUFFERS FROM RESIDENTIAL TO SOLAR.

I'VE GOT ANOTHER SLIDE COMING UP WHERE WE CAN TALK ABOUT THAT, BECAUSE THAT MIGHT BE THE MAIN CONCERN.

IS IT A BIG, IS IT REALLY A PROBLEM WHEN A SOLAR PROJECT IS GOING NEXT TO A TOWN'S INDUSTRIAL PARK? MAYBE NOT SO MUCH.

NOT IF THE TOWN WANTS IT.

IT'S VERY DIFFERENT WHEN YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THE BUILT ENVIRONMENT WHERE YOU HAVE, YOU KNOW, APPROVED SUBDIVISIONS OR, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE'S HOUSES OUT IN MORE RURAL AREAS.

SO WE'LL GET TO THAT NEXT.

THE OTHER CHANGE WAS WE REMOVED THE REQUIREMENT FOR A ONE MILE DISTANCE FROM AIRPORTS.

TURNS OUT A LOT OF THESE PROJECTS ARE GOING CLOSER TO AIRPORTS.

[INAUDIBLE] CAN NOW BE MANAGED.

THE TECHNOLOGY HAS CHANGED.

BUT HERE AGAIN, THIS IS ONE OF THESE ONES WHERE THE FFA ACTUALLY HAS JURISDICTION.

SO WE WOULD DEFER TO THEIR JUDGMENT.

PREFERRED SITES.

WE REMOVED THE REQUIREMENT FOR THREE CRITERIA TO BE MET.

PREFERRED SITES.

THE OTHER CHANGE WAS NOW WHEN I SAY PREFERRED SITES SO PREVIOUSLY THEY WE HAD A LIST OF, LET'S SAY 12 ITEMS WHERE THIS IS WHERE APPLICANTS SHALL GO AND RECEIVED A LOT OF INPUT ON WHY THAT MIGHT BE PROBLEMATIC, TO SORT OF MAKE THAT MANDATORY AS FAR AS YOU HAVE TO MEET A TEST OR A CHECKLIST OF, YOU KNOW, CHECKING OFF THREE BOXES AND TO REALLY JUST MAKE THAT MORE OF A DISCRETIONARY ITEM, BECAUSE EVERY PROJECT HAS TO STAND ON ITS OWN.

STILL A USE PERMIT.

SO THOSE ARE NOW AS PREFERRED SITES.

AND PREVIOUSLY ONE OF THE CRITERIA FOR PREFERRED SITES WAS, YOU KNOW, SITES THAT ARE AT LEAST, YOU KNOW, TEN MILES AWAY FROM REALLY SIGNIFICANT LANDSCAPE FEATURES, LIKE A GRANITE MOUNTAIN THAT ACTUALLY MIRRORS LIKE THE LANGUAGE FROM THE COCONINO COUNTY ORDINANCE, WHICH, YOU KNOW, WE LOOKED TO A LOT OF THEIR HELPFUL LANGUAGE IN CRAFTING OUR OWN ORDINANCE.

WE DIDN'T DO THIS IN A VACUUM.

SO THIS IS SOMETHING THAT INDUSTRY YOU KNOW, TOOK ISSUE WITH AND THEY WANTED THAT REDUCED.

WE THOUGHT ABOUT IT.

WE PROPOSED TO REDUCE THAT TO FIVE MILES.

HERE AGAIN, IF YOU FEEL DIFFERENTLY, WE'RE FINE WITH THAT IF IT NEEDS TO GO BACK TO TEN AGAIN.

BUT REALLY THIS IS A PREFERRED STANDARD.

SO IT'S NOT EVEN NECESSARILY SET IN STONE.

EITHER WAY THE BOARD IS GOING TO HAVE DISCRETION ON THE PREFERRED SITE SELECTION ANALYSIS.

IF I REMEMBER CORRECTLY, COCONINO WAS TEN MILES CORRECT.

AND I THINK YOU KNOW THAT TO ME, TEN MILES MAKES A LOT OF SENSE.

AND I THINK THE MORE WE HAVE CONSISTENCY ACROSS COUNTIES, WE SHOULD TRY AND MIRROR THAT.

AND SO IF A PROJECT GETS PROPOSED WITHIN TEN MILES, IT JUST MEANS THAT THE BURDEN IS ON THE APPLICANT TO DEMONSTRATE WHY THAT'S NOT GOING TO BECOME AN EYESORE TO A GRANITE MOUNTAIN OR A MINGUS MOUNTAIN.

ET CETERA. ET CETERA.

IT JUST MAKES THEM EXPLAIN THEMSELVES MORE ONCE THEY COME IN THROUGH THE PROCESS.

CORRECT. THANK YOU.

SO I THINK WE CAN REVISIT THAT CHANGE AT THE END.

SEEING THE CONSENT OF THE ROOM.

THE CONSENSUS.

OKAY. RESTRICTED LOCATION.

STEEP SLOPES. THIS IS ONE THAT YOU KNOW, THE PUBLIC WAS REALLY KIND OF ON BOTH SIDES.

AND I THINK A LOT OF THE, THE REGULATED ENTITIES, THEY WANT LESS.

THEY WANT LESS BUFFERS.

BUT THE PUBLIC, NOBODY WANTS THIS NEXT TO THEM.

AND I THINK WE ALL AGREE WE WANT TO PROTECT SENSITIVE RESOURCES.

SO, YOU KNOW, REALLY ONE WAY TO LOOK AT TWO WAYS TO LOOK AT THE SETBACKS.

WE ALREADY REQUIRE THEM FOR EVERY LAND USE AND ACTIVITY IN THE COUNTY.

NOTHING NEW WHEN YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT PROJECTS THAT ARE OVER 3000 ACRES IN SIZE.

GUESS WHAT? YOU PROBABLY NEED BIGGER BUFFERS BECAUSE ONE OF THE BIGGEST IMPACTS ISN'T SO MUCH NOISE OR SOUND.

IT'S THE VISUAL IMPACT.

IT'S THAT LAKE THAT, YOU KNOW, MAYBE YOU DON'T WANT IN YOUR BACKYARD.

IF YOU'VE JUST INVESTED ALL THESE PUBLIC IMPROVEMENTS TO CREATE A NICE DEVELOPMENT.

SO SOME OF THE CHANGES THAT WE DID MAKE WHEN WE TALK ABOUT STEEP SLOPES.

RIGHT. THIS IS ONE AREA WHERE WE HEAR THE MOST ABOUT WHEN PEOPLE ARE UNHAPPY WITH YOU KNOW, RAPID DEVELOPMENT THAT TAKING PLACE IN THE COUNTY IS WHERE IT REALLY STANDS OUT ON THE LANDSCAPE. YOU'RE STEEP SLOPES AND YOUR HILLTOPS.

SO WE HAD A PRETTY PROTECTIVE STANDARD.

AND WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING IS TO REDUCE THE STANDARD TO 8% SLOPE.

SO WHAT IS 8%? JUST TO GIVE YOU AN EXAMPLE, THE YAVAPAI CONNECTOR OFF OF 89A, THAT'S I BELIEVE THAT THAT GRADE IS ABOUT 8%.

RIGHT. SO THAT THAT'S GOT A GRADE TO IT.

RIGHT. AND SO WHAT WE'RE SAYING IS, YOU KNOW, NOTHING OF A SLOPE THAT STEEP OR HIGHER OVER, OVER THE COURSE OF 300FT.

NOW THE QUESTION BECOMES ARE YOU COMFORTABLE WITH THAT?

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WE WERE ORIGINALLY AT 5%.

WE GOT A RIGOROUS LOBBYING AND PUSHBACK.

YOU MIGHT SAY 5% MAKES MORE SENSE.

SO I'M GOING TO THROW THAT OUT THERE LOOKING FOR YOUR DIRECTION.

THE OTHER CHANGE WAS THE EXCEPTION FOR SLOPES WITH A 10% RISE OVER 300FT.

IF THE AFFECTED AREA IS ONLY 10% OF THE TOTAL DEVELOPMENT AREA.

AND SO REALLY, WHEN DOES THAT COME INTO PLAY? YOU'VE GOT A 3000 ACRE PROJECT, AND IN THE MIDDLE OF IT YOU'VE GOT SOME STEEP SLOPES.

WHAT WE'D RATHER WE'D RATHER THE APPLICANT UTILIZE THE EFFICIENCY OF HIS SITE AND UTILIZE THAT 10% OF THAT AREA, AND HAVE TO SPREAD THE PROJECT OUT IF HE'S ALREADY GOT THE ALLOWANCE FOR 3000 ACRES BY THE ORDINANCE.

SO REALLY TRYING TO BE FLEXIBLE, THAT'S ONE THAT, THAT THAT DOES MAKE SENSE TO US.

AND THEN THE OTHER CHANGE THAT WE PROPOSE WOULD BE YOU KNOW, CURRENTLY ANY SITES THAT HAVE WOODY VEGETATED AREAS, THESE ARE YOUR FOREST, YOUR SHRUB SCRUB, ANYTHING THAT IS A SITE, 25% OR MORE IS DOMINATED BY WOODY SPECIES.

YOU CAN'T CUT IT.

WHY? WELL, IT'S NOT ONLY HABITAT, BUT THIS IS THE TYPE OF STUFF THAT PROBABLY IS GOING TO IRRITATE THE PUBLIC.

WHEN AN APPLICATION COMES TO THE FORE, AND SOMEBODY IS PROPOSING TO CLEAR CUT A FOREST.

RIGHT NOW THERE'S GOING TO BE SITES BECAUSE AGAIN, PROJECT'S 3000 ACRES, UNLESS IT'S OUT IN THE PRAIRIE, THEY'RE GOING TO INTERSECT WITH WOODY AREAS.

AND SO WANTING TO BE FLEXIBLE PROPOSED TO INCREASE THAT TO 30% VEGETATION FOR WOODY SPECIES.

BUT YOU MAY DECIDE.

YOU MAY TELL US WE GOT IT WRONG AND YOU WANT TO GO BACK TO 25.

SO THESE ARE TWO ITEMS WHERE WE'RE KIND OF LOOKING FOR FOR INPUT.

THIS IS WHAT WE PROPOSE.

BUT ALL OF THIS CAN BE CHANGED.

YOU KNOW JUST LOOKING AT IT MATT, IT MAKES MORE SENSE TO ME TO BE CONSERVATIVE, GIVEN THE FLEXIBILITY THAT WE KNOW WE'RE GOING TO HAVE AS WE GO INTO THE FUTURE.

SO I LIKE THE 25% THAT YOU STARTED WITH.

AND I ALSO LIKE THE 10% OVER 200.

YOU KNOW THAT JUST MAKES THE FLEXIBILITY WITHIN IT SO THAT THEY CAN, AS YOU SAY, MAKE THE MOST EFFICIENT USE.

IF THAT'S WHAT I'M UNDERSTANDING, THAT'S THE GOAL.

SO THAT THEY'RE UTILIZING IT IN THE WAY THAT THEY NEED TO.

AND YOUR CONCERN IS WHAT? SUPERVISOR MICHAELS, YOU ACTUALLY RAISED A GOOD POINT, THAT YOU CAN BE CONSERVATIVE IF YOU ALREADY HAVE FLEXIBILITY, RIGHT.

WAIVERS ARE BUILT INTO THE PROCESS.

I THINK WHEN YOU'RE SPEAKING TO THE STEEP SLOPE, IT MAY BE THE CONCERN WITH THE 8% RIGHT THAT YOU CAN BUILD UP TO 8% RISE IN GRADE, RIGHT.

AND AGAIN, THINK YAVAPAI CONNECTOR.

IT'S STEEP. ORIGINALLY WE PROPOSED FIVE.

DO YOU WANT TO GO BACK TO FIVE? I DO, AND OTHER MEMBERS OF THE BOARD.

YOU KNOW, IT'S A BIT OF A CONFLICT BECAUSE YOU WANT THEM TO BE EFFICIENT.

BUT YOU HAVE THE FLEXIBILITY.

MATT, LEAVE IT THERE AS A QUESTION.

OKAY. YEAH. AND WE'LL ADDRESS IT.

THAT SOUNDS REAL GOOD. OKAY.

THANK YOU. OKAY.

SO THIS IS ONE THAT WE'RE AT BECAUSE IT WAS A TYPO.

MATT WROTE THE ORDINANCE.

AND SURE ENOUGH WHEN WE WERE TALKING ABOUT SETBACKS AND I INCLUDED ALL OF THE AREAS THAT WOULD HAVE A 500 FOOT SETBACK.

I INCLUDED THE RCU DISTRICT IN WHICH THE ORDINANCE WOULD ALLOW THESE USES TO BE.

SO ESSENTIALLY, EVEN WITHOUT ALL THE OTHER SETBACKS, EVERY PROJECT WOULD HAVE TO CREATE A 500 FOOT SETBACK FROM THE ADJACENT PROPERTY.

SO WE MADE THAT CHANGE.

BUT THEN, YOU KNOW, WE DID HEAR A LOT OF CONCERNS FROM MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC AND SOMETHING WE WANT TO BE SENSITIVE TO THE PUBLIC'S INVESTMENT.

AND PEOPLE MOVE TO YAVAPAI COUNTY FOR THE QUALITY OF LIFE.

AND WE DON'T WANT TO DO ANYTHING THAT ERODE THE CHARACTERISTICS FOR WHICH PEOPLE MOVED AND INVESTED HERE WITH THEIR FAMILIES AND THEIR BUSINESSES.

AND SO AT THE LAST, AT THE PREVIOUS P&Z PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION MEETING, WE DID HAVE A FAIR AMOUNT OF FEEDBACK AND THEN COMMENTS THAT WE RECEIVED AT DEVELOPMENT SERVICES, WITH THE CONCERN THAT 500 FOOT DISTANCE FROM DWELLINGS OR APPROVED SUBDIVISIONS THAT THAT WAS TOO CLOSE.

YOU KNOW, ACTUALLY, I WOULD TAKE AND CONSIDER THAT, YOU KNOW, THAT 500FT THAT'S YOU KNOW, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE MINING REGULATIONS AND THE PROBLEMS WE HAVE WITH THOSE.

EXACTLY. AT THE STATE LEVEL.

AND THEY'RE NOW SAYING, YOU KNOW, THAT THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE A DISTANCE OF 1500 FEET, I THINK, 1500 FEET OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. SO THERE'S A NUMBER.

ANYWAY, THAT'S NOT EVEN WHAT WE WERE CLOSE TO.

WE WERE TALKING ABOUT AT LEAST A HALF A MILE.

THAT'S 2500 OR 2600, MAYBE A, YOU KNOW, SOME GREATER DISTANCE THAN THAT, BECAUSE HOW MANY OF YOU WANT TO HAVE A SOLAR PANEL RIGHT NEXT TO YOUR

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THERE YOU GO. I THINK I HEAR THE CONSENSUS IN THE ROOM.

SO AND THAT'S THE POINT, IS THAT, YOU KNOW, SOLAR PRODUCTION FOR UTILITY IS GOING TO BE LARGE.

SO IT'S GOING TO HAVE TO BE IN AREAS THAT ARE AWAY FROM THE RESIDENTIAL AREAS.

NOW IS THAT GOING TO HAPPEN EVERY TIME.

MAYBE NOT. BUT WE'VE GOT TO KEEP SOME KIND OF DISTANCE TO KEEP THE QUALITY OF LIFE THERE.

AND IF PEOPLE MOVE INTO AN AREA AND THE SOLAR PLANTS ARE ALREADY THERE, THAT'S A DIFFERENT STORY.

YOU KNOW, YOU KNEW IT WAS THERE.

AND STAFF ORIGINALLY WAS LOOKING TO A MINIMUM 1000FT.

BUT THIS IS ONE OF THESE SETBACKS WHERE WE HAD RIGOROUS LOBBYING, WANTING SIGNIFICANTLY REDUCED OR NO SETBACKS WHATSOEVER.

AND SO.

YEAH, RIGHT. WELL, I FIND THAT HARD TO BELIEVE.

SO CAN WE GET TO A NUMBER 1500? 1500. HUNDRED, MATT MOVED TO 1500.

THAT'S THAT'S AT LEAST A QUARTER.

AND IT MAY BE THAT SOME PROJECTS, BECAUSE OF THE LAY OF THE LAND OR ADJACENT USES, THAT YOU ACTUALLY DON'T SEE THEM WHEN THEY'RE CLOSER.

BUT I THINK A PRODUCTIVE NUMBER IS A GOOD NUMBER.

I AGREE. CHAIRMAN.

OVER HERE. OH, WE'RE NOT VOTING.

I KNOW WE'RE NOT VOTING, BUT WE ARE GOING TO HEAR FROM THE PUBLIC, RIGHT? SURE. OKAY.

SO WE DON'T NEED TO.

OKAY. THAT SOUNDS REAL GOOD.

ALL RIGHT, SO MOVING ON.

SO ANYWAY, LEAVE THAT AS STILL A QUESTION MARK AND DISCUSSION ITEM BECAUSE THIS IS GOING TO END UP GOING SOME OTHER DAY.

OKAY. AND SO KEEP IN MIND SOME OF THE BOLDED LANGUAGE HERE UNLESS ADJACENT TO PROPERTY THAT ALLOWS FOR UTILITY SCALE SOLAR.

SO THIS IS ONE WHERE THE PLANNING UNIT IS KIND OF IN A DOUBLE BIND.

ON THE ONE HAND YOU WANT, LIKE USES TOGETHER UTILITY.

YOU KNOW, SOLAR WANTS TO BE NEAR THE BUILT ENVIRONMENT AND WE'RE TRYING TO FIND THE BALANCE.

AND SO ON THE ONE HAND, IF YOU HAVE IF YOU ALREADY HAVE A PROJECT THERE, IT MIGHT MAKE SENSE TO PARK ANOTHER PROJECT NEXT TO IT.

BUT YOUR STANDARD IN THE ORDINANCE IS A 3000 ACRE LIMIT.

SO THIS IS SOMETHING THAT INDUSTRY REALLY WANTED.

WE PROPOSED THE CHANGE SIMILAR TO THE 500FT ABOVE.

ULTIMATELY WE'RE PUTTING THIS OUT THERE TO KIND OF FORCE DISCUSSION ON THESE IMPORTANT ISSUES THAT AFFECT PEOPLE.

AND SO THIS IS ONE WE'D LIKE YOUR INPUT.

ARE YOU OKAY WITH HAVING TWO MEGA PROJECTS TOGETHER? THEY MIGHT MAKE SENSE FROM A PLANNING STANDPOINT, BUT THEY MAY NOT MAKE SENSE IF YOU KNOW, IF THAT'S YOUR SCENIC GRASSLAND WHEN YOU'RE DRIVING HOME AND ENJOYING THE RIDE.

IT REALLY BUT, MATT, IF THEY COME FORWARD AND SAY WHEN THEY GO THROUGH THE APPLICATION PROJECT, IF THEY'RE RIGHT NEXT TO EACH OTHER, THEY CAN GET THAT EXCEPTION IN THE USE PERMIT. CORRECT.

THAT'S A WAIVER.

IT'S A WAIVER, BUT THEY HAVE THE ABILITY TO DO THAT.

WE'VE BEEN SAYING THAT FROM THE VERY BEGINNING.

MANY OF THE ISSUES THAT HAVE COME UP HAVE BEEN, HAVE BEEN REPETITIVELY BROUGHT TO OUR ATTENTION AGAIN AND AGAIN AND AGAIN.

AND SO WE REALLY JUST KIND OF WANTED TO SAY, WELL, YOU KNOW, WE WANT TO LISTEN FAIRLY TO EVERYBODY.

I'M NOT IN THE BUSINESS OF SOLAR.

SO KIND OF FORCE THE ISSUE.

AND, YOU KNOW, TO GET TO GET THE OPINION OF THE BOARD ON WHERE WE ACTUALLY NEED TO LAND ON SOME OF THESE ISSUES.

SO IF YOU'RE IF THE BOARD DOES NOT LIKE THAT LANGUAGE, WE CAN WE CAN STRIKE THAT.

AND THAT IS UNLESS ADJACENT TO PROPERTY WHICH ALLOWS UTILITY SCALE ENERGY.

WE'LL COME BACK TO THAT. OKAY.

I AGREE. I'M JUST GOING TO WRITE A NOTE ADJACENCY.

OKAY. ALL RIGHT.

SO NOT APPLICABLE IF ADJACENT LAND USE HAS NOT APPLICABLE IF ADJACENT LAND USE HAS COMPATIBLE USES 1000.

OKAY. SO THE CURRENT STANDARD IS THAT THERE'S A 1000 FOOT BUFFER FROM A FEDERALLY PROTECTED LAND.

OKAY. MANY INSTANCES, THE FEDERAL LAND THAT'S ALREADY PROTECTED, THEY HAVE CONGRESSIONALLY MANDATED ACQUISITION BUFFERS.

THEY'RE STILL TRYING TO BUY AND LAND TO CREATE A MEANINGFUL ECOLOGICAL HOLE.

AND SO THE IDEA BEING THAT, WELL, WILDLIFE DOESN'T REALLY RECOGNIZE THESE BOUNDARIES ANYWAY PROBABLY WANT TO HAVE 1000 FOOT BUFFER FROM THINGS LIKE OUR WILDERNESS AREAS.

WELL, INDUSTRY HERE TO WADE IN.

AND THEY SAID, WELL, YOU KNOW, NOT ALL FEDERAL LANDS ARE CREATED THE SAME WITH THE SAME PURPOSE AND INTENT.

AND THAT'S TRUE, YOU KNOW, BUREAU OF LAND MANAGEMENT, THEIR LEASING AND THE PROCESS OF LEASING A LOT OF THEIR GROUND FOR UTILITY SCALE SOLAR.

AND MAYBE WE MAYBE IT MAKES SENSE TO TO TREAT THESE A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT, A DIFFERENT STANDARD FOR YOUR WILDERNESS AREAS, YOUR NATIONAL MONUMENTS AND THINGS LIKE THIS, YOUR WILDLIFE REFUGES AND THEN A 500 FOOT STANDARD FROM OTHER FEDERALLY MANAGED LAND.

OR YOU CAN KEEP THE LANGUAGE AS YOU COULD.

WE COULD RETAIN THE LANGUAGE AS ORIGINALLY PROPOSED AS AS 1000FT.

AND IF SOMEBODY HAS A WORTHY PROJECT, IT'S A WAIVER.

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SO. RIGHT.

DO YOU WANT A SPECIFIC STANDARD FOR YOUR STATE LAND, SOME OF WHICH IS GOING TO BE DEVELOPED UNLESS IT MAY OTHERWISE BE PRESERVED, LIKE WHAT HAPPENED AT GLASSFORD HILL? OKAY. ALL RIGHT.

SO I'VE MADE A NOTE OF THAT AS WELL, 500FT FROM SIGNIFICANT ARCHEOLOGICAL SITES DETERMINED IN PRELIMINARY SITE INVESTIGATIONS RECOGNIZED BY SHPO.

THAT STANDARD HASN'T CHANGED ALL THAT.

THE ONLY CHANGE THERE IS THAT WE JUST MADE IT KIND OF CLARIFIED IT.

SO PEOPLE REALLY UNDERSTOOD WHO'S MAKING THESE DETERMINATIONS OF WHAT WHAT REALLY CAN WHAT REALLY DEFINES A SIGNIFICANT SITE? RIGHT. OKAY, I'M GONNA HAVE TO READ THIS ONE.

OKAY, SO THIS WAS A RECOMMENDATION THAT CAME FROM THE ARIZONA GAME AND GAME AND FISH.

YOU KNOW WHAT YOU SEE IN THIS IMAGE HERE IS THE CHECKERBOARD PATTERN OF FEDERAL, STATE AND PRIVATE OWNERSHIP OF LANDS THAT PREVAILS IN SOME AREAS OF THE COUNTY, PARTICULARLY MANY OF OUR VALLEYS.

THINK BIG, BIG CHINO AQUIFER.

THESE BLOCKS OF LAND, THEY'RE ESSENTIALLY THESE 640 ACRE SQUARE MILE BLOCKS OF PROPERTY.

AND IN, IN AND IN SOME AREAS WITH THIS TYPE OF OWNERSHIP PATTERN, THEY INTERSECT WITH MIGRATION CORRIDORS.

RIGHT. THESE ARE OFTEN THESE ARE YOUR YOUR SHORT GRASS PRAIRIE.

THIS IS WHERE YOUR ELK, YOUR PRONGHORN AND YOUR MULE DEER RESIDE.

AND SO IF YOU ALLOW DEVELOPMENT TO TAKE PLACE AS SORT OF THESE, THESE SQUARE BLOCKS, IT REALLY, REALLY, REALLY INTERFERES WITH WILDLIFE CONNECTIVITY.

AND SO ONE OF THE IDEAS THAT THE ARIZONA GAME AND FISH HAS BEEN PROMOTING AND, AND THEY HAVE SUGGESTED HERE IN DEVELOPMENT SERVICES, AGREES, IS THAT IF YOU'RE GOING TO DEVELOP, LET'S SAY THAT THAT BLOCK WITH THE WRITING IN IT, THAT AT THE SQUARE CORNER OF THAT, THAT'S WHERE YOU WOULD APPLY A 650 FOOT BUFFER.

IF IT IS DETERMINED THROUGH YOUR PRELIMINARY ANALYSIS AND THE DATA THAT YOU RECEIVE, RIGHT.

YOUR SCIENTIFICALLY DEFENSIBLE DATA FURNISHED BY THE PEOPLE WHO ARE THE PROFESSIONALS AND UNDERSTANDING WHERE THESE CORRIDORS ARE.

RIGHT. THEY WOULDN'T JUST GO ANYWHERE.

SO LET'S SAY BETWEEN THOSE TWO SQUARES WHERE YOU HAVE THE AREA IN BLUE, THAT ACTUALLY HAPPENS TO BE AN AREA THAT'S REALLY IMPORTANT FOR YOUR SEASONAL MIGRATION FOR PRONGHORN, IF YOU PRESERVE THE EDGE OF THAT PROPERTY AND THEN DO THE SAME AT THE SQUARE CORNER WHEN THE NEXT BLOCK GETS DEVELOPED, YOU'VE ACTUALLY REALLY AFFORDED AN INCREDIBLE OPPORTUNITY TO PRESERVE AND PROTECT THAT CORRIDOR.

AND REALLY, WHEN YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT SQUARE, THAT'S NOT REALLY THE MOST EFFICIENT PART OF THE PROPERTY ANYWAY, RIGHT? BECAUSE YOU'VE GOT THESE ANGLES.

AND SO THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE HAVE WRITTEN INTO THE ORDINANCE AS PROPOSED THAT WE RECOMMEND HERE.

YOU KNOW, ULTIMATELY, IF YOU WERE DEVELOPING BOTH BLOCKS SIDE BY SIDE, THEN THAT WOULD RESULT IN ABOUT A 1300 FOOT CORRIDOR BETWEEN PARCELS. AND AGAIN, THIS IS ONLY IN THOSE INSTANCES, RIGHT? THIS THIS TYPE OF WIDE BUFFER REALLY ONLY APPLIES FOR MOBILE WILDLIFE THAT REALLY NEEDS THE WIDER BUFFERS.

WE HAVE STANDARDS IN THE ORDINANCE THAT ADDRESS OTHER TYPES OF WILDLIFE, LIKE, YOU KNOW, BEAR AND MOUNTAIN LION AND THINGS LIKE THIS.

AND THEY, YOU KNOW, MAY NOT REQUIRE SUCH A SUBSTANTIAL BUFFER, BUT PRONGHORN DO HEIGHT RESTRICTIONS.

I THINK WE STARTED AT 15.

INDUSTRY DEMONSTRATED TO US THAT THAT REALLY ISN'T THE STANDARD.

WE PROPOSE TO INCREASE THAT LIMIT.

AGAIN, THIS IS FOR YOUR UTILITY SCALE, THE HEIGHT OF YOUR PANELS AT THE HIGHEST EDGE WHEN FULLY TILTED.

SO WE PROPOSED 20FT.

AND THAT'S REALLY JUST TO KIND OF MIRROR WHAT THE STANDARD IS OUT ON THE LANDSCAPE, WHAT THEY'RE BUILDING TODAY.

SO THAT'S THAT'S ONE CHANGE THAT WE'RE COMFORTABLE WITH MAKING.

STAFF. QUARTERS.

I MENTIONED MINIMUM WIDTH FOR KNOWN DAILY SEASONAL MIGRATIONS.

PRONGHORN. ELK. MULE DEER.

THESE ARE GOING TO BE YOUR SIGNIFICANT HERDS.

WHAT REMAINS? THERE'S GOING TO BE INSTANCES WHERE THE CORRIDOR WHERE THE WILDLIFE ARE MOVING ISN'T AT THE EDGE OR THE CORNER OF A PROJECT.

IT'S ACTUALLY RIGHT SMACK THROUGH THE CENTER.

AND IN THOSE INSTANCES, WILDLIFE GET REALLY SPOOKED IF THEY DON'T HAVE A WIDE BUFFER.

IMAGINE HOW YOU WOULD FEEL IF YOU WERE WALKING THROUGH THE MIDDLE OF 3000 ACRES OF PANELS.

AND SO IN THOSE CASES, IF IT'S DEMONSTRATED THROUGH PRELIMINARY STUDIES, CONSULTATION, THAT THAT IS IN FACT A TRIED AND TRUE SIGNIFICANT WILDLIFE CORRIDOR.

IN THAT CASE, THE ORDINANCE WOULD REQUIRE UP TO 2000FT WIDTH FOR IN THOSE INSTANCES WHERE THAT QUARTER EXTENDS, YOU KNOW, AT LEAST TWO MILES IN LENGTH, RIGHT? SO A REALLY BIG PROJECT, THE QUARTER GOES RIGHT DOWN THE CENTER.

IT'S GOT TO BE WIDE ENOUGH, PARTICULARLY IF THE PROJECT IF THE LENGTH OF THAT QUARTER IS MORE THAN THAN TWO MILES IN LENGTH.

AGAIN, THESE ARE THESE ARE BIG PROJECTS.

THESE PROJECTS ARE LITERALLY BIGGER THAN ALL OF YOUR SUBURBAN AND URBAN AREAS PUT TOGETHER.

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AND BY THE WAY, THIS IMAGE IS TAKEN FROM A SOLAR PROJECT THAT THROUGH THE COURSE OF DOING STUDIES, LO AND BEHOLD, A SIGNIFICANT PRONGHORN CORRIDOR WAS WAS DETERMINED. THEY ACTUALLY BUILT AN OVERPASS AND BEFORE IT WAS EVEN COMPLETED, LOOK WHO SHOWED UP.

SO THE GOOD NEWS IS THIS STUFF WORKS.

IT'S WORKING AND WE CAN DO BETTER.

AND WE WE HOPE THAT THIS ORDINANCE ISN'T GOING TO HARM WILDLIFE THAT ULTIMATELY CAN HELP FACILITATE WILDLIFE.

LET ME ASK A QUESTION, MATT, SINCE WE'RE APPROACHING, YOU KNOW, LUNCH TIME AND EVERYTHING ELSE, DO YOU FOLKS WANT TO COME BACK AFTER LUNCH OR DO YOU WANT TO JUST KEEP GOING? YEAH. I'M THIS LOOKS LIKE IT'S GOING TO BE ANOTHER HOUR AND A HALF.

AND THAT'S NOT COUNTING ALL OF THESE.

IF YOU ALL WANT TO SPEAK.

SO WE'RE VERY CLOSE GETTING THROUGH MY SLIDES.

AND THAT'S A PLACEHOLDER FOR THE COMING BACK TO THE OTHER ITEMS RECOMMENDED BY THE BOARD OR BY PNC AND THEN RECOMMENDED BY YOU TODAY.

SO PREVIOUSLY IN THE ORDINANCE, WE HAD LANGUAGE REQUIRING THE APPLICANT TO FURNISH A QUALIFIED EXPERT TO ACTUALLY DO STUDIES TO DETERMINE THE NOISE.

AND WHAT WE HEARD FROM INDUSTRY, WHICH WHICH MADE SENSE TO US, IS THAT REALLY A LOT OF THIS STUFF CAN BE CAN BE ADDRESSED BY PROVIDING THE APPROPRIATE DOCUMENTATION. OUR PROFESSIONALS REVIEW THAT DOCUMENTATION.

ULTIMATELY, IF THE BOARD'S NOT SATISFIED, SOMETHING ELSE GETS REQUIRED.

BUT ESSENTIALLY, IF THEY CAN FURNISH THE APPROPRIATE YOU KNOW, DOCUMENTATION THAT IT WOULD NOT NECESSITATE THEN HAVING THE APPLICANT HAVE A QUALIFIED EXPERT GO OUT AND MEASURE THESE THINGS.

TYPICALLY, AS WE UNDERSTAND, THESE ARE NOT MASSIVE NOISE GENERATORS, BUT THEY WOULD NEED TO STILL MAINTAIN THE STANDARD IN THE ORDINANCES, WHICH IS 50 DBA AT THE AT THE PROJECT BOUNDARY.

SO THAT'S AN ITEM THAT CAME TO US RECOMMENDED BY INDUSTRY GROUPS AND OTHERS.

AND YOU KNOW, WE PROPOSE THAT CHANGE, BUT ULTIMATELY UP TO UP TO THE BOARD.

THAT'S. GENERAL COMPLIANCE.

THIS IS JUST LEGALESE I MENTIONED.

THERE'S ALL THESE OTHER ENTITIES THAT GET TO WEIGH IN WITH A LOT OF THINGS THAT REALLY AREN'T, YOU KNOW, UNDER THE PURVIEW OF THE BOARD.

THANKFULLY, YOU DON'T HAVE TO DO IT ALL.

THERE ARE THESE OTHER JURISDICTIONS.

AND SO WE WANTED TO WRITE THAT INTO THE ORDINANCE.

SO IT'S VERY CLEAR THAT THERE THERE ARE OTHERS INVOLVED AND YOUR APPROVAL IS CONDITIONED ON GETTING THOSE OTHER OUTSIDE APPROVALS.

WE ADDED LANGUAGE THAT OPERATORS MUST TRAIN THEIR FIELD FIELD PERSONNEL WITH RESPECT TO INGRESS, EGRESS, ENVIRONMENTAL, CULTURAL ARCHEOLOGY. RIGHT.

YOU NEED TO HAVE THE RIGHT TEAM.

YOU HAVE TO MAINTAIN YOUR RECORDS SO THAT YOU'RE ACTUALLY HIRING THE RIGHT PEOPLE.

AND YOU CAN PROVE IT. WHEN ASKED FOR THE CONSTRUCTION PLAN, WE JUST MOVED THAT LATER IN THE ORDINANCE.

SO THAT DOESN'T GET SUBMITTED WITH THE APPLICATION ITSELF BECAUSE IT WOULD BE PREMATURE TO DO SO.

BUT THAT WOULD STILL INCLUDE, YOU KNOW, YOUR ESTIMATED SCHEDULE, HOURS OF OPERATION, ETC., ETC..

SO THAT'S STILL A REQUIREMENT.

IT'S JUST REQUIRED LATER ON IN THE APPLICATION PROCESS.

YES. DID WE ADDRESS IN THIS PARTICULAR SECTION ANYTHING IN REGARDS TO ACCESS WAYS ROADS? YES I'M GOING TO GET TO THAT.

WE'VE GOT A BRAND NEW SLIDE FOR THAT.

AND HERE IT IS.

SO DEVELOPMENT SERVICE IS BIG.

WE HAVE 72 PEOPLE AND MANY OF THEM WEIGHED IN.

SO WE HEARD FROM THE DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC WORKS, AND THEY REQUESTED THAT WE INSERT LANGUAGE.

AND THIS IS REALLY WHAT WE ALREADY REQUIRE FOR MAJOR PROJECTS WHEN THEY INVOLVE COUNTY ROADS.

BUT WE WANTED BEING THIS A STANDALONE ORDINANCE OF SUCH, SUCH IMPACT.

WE WANTED TO WRITE WHAT THOSE STANDARDS ARE SO THEY CAN'T COME UNDER QUESTION OR PUSHBACK.

AND SO I PROBABLY DON'T NEED TO READ THESE, BUT EVERYTHING PUBLIC WORKS WANTS TO HAVE IN HERE THAT THEY ALREADY ARE DOING FOR MAJOR PROJECTS, THAT'S NOW WRITTEN INTO THE ORDINANCE. OKAY.

AND THIS IS FOR YOUR YOUR TRAFFIC IMPACT ANALYSIS.

AND THAT'S, THAT'S A NEW RECOMMENDATION.

THAT'S THAT'S ONE THAT CAME FROM THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION.

ANOTHER ONE THAT CAME THE NEXT TWO SLIDES BASICALLY SAY THE SAME THING, BUT ONE APPLIES TO BATTERY ENERGY STORAGE AND THE OTHER APPLIES TO SUBSTATIONS WE'RE ALMOST THROUGH AND ESSENTIALLY.

SO WHAT HASN'T CHANGED IS IF YOU'RE PROPOSING EITHER OF THE TWO IN CONCERT WITH YOUR SOLAR PROJECT, YOU HAVE TO YOU HAVE TO FOLLOW ALL OF THE SAME STANDARDS AND SOME ADDITIONAL STANDARDS.

RIGHT? BECAUSE THIS IS DIFFERENT THAN A SOLAR PANEL.

RIGHT? THERE HAVE BEEN ISSUES IN THE PAST.

WE'RE VERY FAMILIAR WITH SEEING SUBSTATIONS IN THE BUILT ENVIRONMENT, LESS SO WITH BATTERY ENERGY STORAGE FACILITIES.

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I WAS JUST HAVING A CONVERSATION WITH APS ABOUT THAT IMPORTANT EVOLUTION AND SAFETY, BUT IF YOU WANT TO DO STANDALONE, WE HAD A LOT OF INTEREST IN ALLOWING THESE TYPES OF FACILITIES IN OTHER ZONING DISTRICTS.

THE FEELING WAS IS THAT'S REALLY BEYOND THE SCOPE.

BUT ONE AREA WHERE WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO PROVIDE SOME RELIEF IS THAT WE DO IN THE M2, WHICH IS THE THE INDUSTRIAL ZONING DISTRICT REALLY ONLY MAKES UP MAYBE 1% OF THE COUNTY.

WE ALLOW POWER GENERATING UTILITIES.

AND SO THE IDEA WAS THAT WITH THIS CHANGE, WE WOULD ALLOW BOTH BEST FACILITIES BATTERY ENERGY STORAGE AND SUBSTATIONS IN THE M2 ZONING DISTRICT, BECAUSE THAT DISTRICT ALREADY ALLOWS THESE TYPES OF USES.

AND AND YOU WILL KNOW THAT THEY'RE NOT ALWAYS GOING TO HAPPEN IN TANDEM.

ACCESSORY TO A SOLAR PROJECT.

THERE'S GOING TO BE A NEED FOR STANDALONE.

AND THIS WAS SOMETHING THAT APS BROUGHT TO OUR ATTENTION AND OTHERS.

AND YOU KNOW, AS OUR PUBLIC PARTNER, WE DO WE DO ADD CONSIDERABLE WEIGHT TO WHAT THEY HAVE TO SAY AS A PUBLIC UTILITY.

SAME IDEA FOR SUBSTATIONS.

AGAIN, IF YOU'RE IF YOU'RE IN TANDEM WITH SOLAR, ALL THE SAME STANDARDS AND SOME ADDITIONAL STANDARDS, BUT IT WOULD BE ALLOWED BY RIGHT IN THE M2 ZONING DISTRICT FOLLOWING THE REGULATIONS.

THOSE WERE TWO RECOMMENDATIONS FROM THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION.

ANOTHER CHANGE LOCATION WOULD BE TO ALLOW A REDUCTION OF THE 500 FOOT SETBACK FROM CERTAIN AREAS, LIKE RESIDENTIAL, IN THOSE LIMITED INSTANCES WHERE IT WOULD PROVIDE AN EXCEPTION TO 100FT IF CO-LOCATING WITH AN EXISTING SUBSTATION.

OKAY, SO THIS IS FOR SUBSTATIONS, NOT THE PANELS.

AND THIS IS BECAUSE HOW IT REALLY HAPPENS ON THE LANDSCAPE IS THAT YOU'LL HAVE A SOLAR OPERATION.

AND PART OF THAT PROJECT THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE THE SUBSTATION.

AND THEN ON THE NEXT PROPERTY YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE ANOTHER SUBSTATION.

THERE'S THIS SORT OF CO-MINGLING OF DIFFERENT USES.

THEY KIND OF GOT TO GO TOGETHER TO WORK.

THIS WAS SOMETHING THAT CAME TO US FROM APS.

AND YOU KNOW, HERE TOO, THERE'S GOING TO BE SOME, YOU KNOW, INSTANCES WHERE CO CO-LOCATING IS, IS ABSOLUTELY CRITICAL.

SO REALLY IT WOULD NEED TO BE A JUSTIFIABLE REDUCTION.

AND AGAIN, IF IT MAKES SENSE BECAUSE THE TWO COULD GO TOGETHER, BUT IT'S RIGHT NEXT TO A RESIDENTIAL AREA.

YOU HAVE THE DISCRETION TO SAY THAT DOG DOESN'T HUNT, AND THAT'S JUST NOT GOING TO WORK THERE FOR FOR ALL OF THE RIGHT REASONS.

BUT AT LEAST THIS THIS ALLOWS FOR THAT TO, TO ESSENTIALLY THE LANGUAGE, YOU KNOW, RECOGNIZES THAT THAT'S KIND OF HOW THIS WORKS IN THE INDUSTRY, THIS THE CO-LOCATING OF SUBSTATIONS. AND WE ADDED THE TERM THAT PUBLIC UTILITY SERVICE PROVIDERS ARE EXEMPT.

THEY'RE REALLY ALREADY EXEMPT.

BUT WE WANTED TO CLARIFY THAT IN THE ORDINANCE.

AND REALLY WE'RE NOT TALKING PRIVATE.

WE'RE TALKING ENTITIES LIKE APS.

WE ADDED THE REQUIREMENT FOR EMERGENCY DIRECTIONAL SIGNAGE.

NOBODY LIKES SIGN POLLUTION.

BUT IF THERE WERE A FIRE, HOWEVER UNLIKELY, WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT OUR EMERGENCY RESPONSE PERSONNEL KNOW WHERE THEY'RE GOING AMONG THESE KINDS OF PANELS.

GUARANTEED FUNDS AGAIN.

YOU KNOW THE ORDINANCE.

MUCH OF THE ORDINANCE GOES TO ADDRESSING DECOMMISSIONING AND AND RECLAMATION.

AND WE CAN VISIT THOSE SLIDES IF YOU WOULD LIKE.

BUT ESSENTIALLY, RIGHT NOW, THE ORDINANCE ALREADY ALLOWS, WHEN YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT GETTING THE APPLICANT GUARANTEEING THAT THEY HAVE THE FUNDING IN PLACE IF SOMETHING GO WRONG OR THEY WALK AWAY, THAT THE COUNTY CAN STEP IN AND BE FULLY COMPENSATED BY FINANCIALLY.

THAT WHEN THE APPLICANT IS AND THIS IS, YOU KNOW, PART OF THE APPLICATION APPROVAL PROCESS, IF YOU CAN'T PASS MUSTER WITH THE STANDARD, YOU DON'T GET APPROVAL, BUT THAT THEY WOULD HAVE SOME FLEXIBILITY IN HOW THEY SORT OF LEGALLY SET UP THOSE, THOSE MONIES THAT GUARANTEEING OF FUNDING.

REALLY THE ONLY CHANGE HERE IS THAT WHATEVER THEY PROPOSE, WHETHER IT'S A MIXTURE OF TRUST, SURETY, BOND, LETTER OF CREDIT, ONE OF THE OTHER, IT STILL HAS TO PASS MUSTER BY YOU AND YOUR LEGAL AND FINANCIAL TEAM.

IF YOU DON'T LIKE IT, IT STOPS.

THE PROJECT STOPPED. THE APPLICATION STOPS THERE UNTIL THEY GET.

UNTIL THEY GET IT RIGHT.

YOU REMAIN IN THE DRIVER'S SEAT TO MAKE SURE YOU'VE GOT A GUARANTEE THAT YOU FEEL CONFIDENT IN.

COST ESTIMATE. UPDATE.

A LOT CAN CHANGE OVER THE LIFETIME OF A PROJECT, SO WE'RE JUST REQUIRING THAT THE MOST CURRENT INDUSTRY STANDARDS COME INTO PLAY WHEN WE'RE REEVALUATING THAT SORT OF ELEVATOR THAT THOSE RECALCULATIONS REQUIRED EVERY FIVE YEARS.

SO AGAIN, THERE WAS A LOT OF CONCERN IN THIS BOARD WHEN THIS WHOLE PROCESS STARTED ABOUT DECOMMISSIONING AND RECLAMATION.

THIS IS AN AREA WHERE WE HELD FIRM, AND IN FACT, WE BEEFED UP THE LANGUAGE, DIDN'T MAKE EVERYBODY HAPPY.

IT'S MORE PROTECTIVE.

[02:55:04]

LET ME JUST LOOK AT MY NOTES HERE, IF I MAY, REALLY QUICKLY.

OKAY. SO IT WAS PREVIOUSLY.

SO IF YOU HAVE AN OPERATOR THAT'S NOT PERFORMING, THEY'RE NOT FULFILLING THEIR OBLIGATION.

THE PANELS LOOK TERRIBLE.

THEY HAVEN'T BRUSHED THEY HAVEN'T RUN THE BRUSH HOG.

IT JUST DOESN'T NOT LOOK GOOD.

AND THE COUNTY WANTS TO STEP IN BECAUSE IT'S JUST A BIG EYESORE OR IT'S UNSAFE.

IT'S BECOME A FIRE HAZARD.

YOU KNOW, PREVIOUSLY SIX MONTHS, THE COUNTY WOULD WOULD HAVE THE CAPACITY TO STEP IN.

WHAT WE HEARD FROM FROM FROM OTHERS WAS IS THAT'S NOT REALISTIC.

WHEN YOU WHEN YOU CONSIDER THINGS LIKE, YOU KNOW, INVENTORY ISSUES, SOURCING OF MATERIALS FROM OVERSEAS THAT A REALISTIC NUMBER IS 12 MONTHS.

WELL, WE THOUGHT ABOUT THAT.

AND THE ONLY WAY THAT THAT WOULD MAKE SENSE IS IF THE COUNTY RETAINED THE RIGHT TO STEP IN AT A MINIMUM OF SIX MONTHS IF, IF AN APPLICANT FAILED TO MAINTAIN THE SITE.

SO YOU STILL HAVE A RECOURSE IF THE APPLICANT DOESN'T GET ITS ACT TOGETHER.

WHERE WE BEEF THAT UP IS HOW DO WE DETERMINE WHEN WHEN AN APPLICANT'S NOT WHEN AN OPERATOR IS NOT PERFORMING.

RIGHT. WE NEED WE NEED SOME WE NEED SOME CRITERIA.

SO IF WE RECEIVE WE'RE A COMPLAINT BASED ENFORCEMENT SYSTEM IN THE COUNTY.

IF WE RECEIVE A VALID LAND USE COMPLAINT THAT TRIGGERS THIS UNSATISFACTORY, THEY'RE REQUIRED TO FURNISH AN ANNUAL REPORT.

WHAT HAVE YOU BEEN DOING OVER THE LAST YEAR? WE'RE GOING TO CREATE A TEMPLATE FOR THAT WEATHER SO THAT EVERY YEAR WE KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON OUT IN THESE OPERATIONS.

THAT'S VERY UNIQUE FOR INDUSTRY, RIGHT.

I DON'T I'M NOT AWARE WHERE WE DO THAT ELSEWHERE.

FIRE SAFETY INSPECTIONS, BATTERY UNIT INSPECTIONS, FAILURE TO PROVIDE REQUIRED REPORTS IF THEY'RE NOT BEING RESPONSIVE, GIVING US WHAT WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THEY'RE BEING SAFE AND MAINTAINING THEIR PROPERTY.

LIKE EVERY LANDOWNER IS EXPECTED TO, THE COUNTY HAS RECOURSE.

THE ONLY CHANGE IS THE PROPOSAL TO TO GIVE THEM 12 MONTHS BECAUSE IT CAN BE VERY DIFFICULT TO SOURCE MATERIALS IF.

WE'RE REPLACING PANELS.

AND THIS COULD BE AS SIMPLE AS REPLACING PANELS, BUT IF THEY'RE NOT MOWING OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, YEAH, THE COUNTY COULD STEP IN.

SO I THINK IT'S GOOD THAT WE HAVE THIS CHECKLIST.

IT'S GOOD THE COUNTY CAN STEP IN AFTER SIX MONTHS IF IT WANTS TO.

AGAIN, IT WOULD BE COMPENSATED WITH THE GUARANTEE OF FUNDS PROVIDED BY THE APPLICANT.

THE QUESTION REALLY BECOMES IS ARE YOU COMFORTABLE? IT'S MORE COMFORTABLE WITH 12 MONTHS INSTEAD OF SIX MONTHS GIVING YOU THAT THAT AUTHORITY TO COMPEL TO MAKE IT COMPULSORY FOR AN APPLICANT TO, TO ACT AND TO TO ADDRESS AN ISSUE.

AND I DON'T FEEL WE DON'T FEEL STRONGLY EITHER WAY.

BUT WE WANTED, IN FAIRNESS TO THEM, TO LET THE BOARD DECIDE, NOT US.

WELL, COCONINO SAYS TWO YEARS, SO WE'RE A ONE YEAR.

SO I AGREE WITH THAT.

THE TWO YEARS. YEAH.

YEAH, I THINK ONE YEAR IS MORE.

OKAY. ALL RIGHT, THAT SOUNDS GOOD.

WELL, PUT IT UP AS A PROPOSAL.

OKAY. 12 YEARS QUESTION MARK.

I'M SORRY. CAN YOU TELL MATT'S GETTING TIRED? ALL RIGHT, SO WE'RE AT THE END OF THE OF THE PRESENTATION AGAIN.

WE CAN TAKE A BREAK OR GO TO THE PUBLIC PORTION, BUT THAT IS THE ACTION REQUESTED WITH CHANGES MADE AS DIRECTED BY THE BOARD.

WE PROPOSE AN INCLUSIVE OF THE OF THE LANGUAGE, THE RECOMMENDATIONS THAT CAME FROM THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION.

WE HAVE ANOTHER RECOMMENDATION THAT CAME LATE IN THE HOUR FROM APS REGARDING THE TERM OF THE LIFETIME.

I THINK TODAY WE HEARD FEEDBACK THAT SOME OF THE OTHER PROPOSED CHANGES THERE'S SOME CONCERN ABOUT THOSE AND WE MIGHT WANT TO REVISIT THOSE AND WE CAN.

GOOD. THANK YOU.

OKAY, WE'RE AT AN INTERESTING POINT HERE.

WE NEED TO.

TAKE A BREAK FOR ABOUT AN HOUR.

HOUR AND A HALF HOURS.

I KNOW YOU FOLKS HAVE BEEN VERY PATIENT, AND WE CERTAINLY DO APPRECIATE IT.

AND I'D LIKE TO GET ALL OF YOU, BUT THERE'S QUITE A FEW PEOPLE THAT WANT TO SPEAK.

I THINK WE CAN BREAK FOR LUNCH.

OKAY. I'VE GOT LUNCH READY FOR YOU.

[03:00:02]

OKAY. LET'S GO.

NEXT 30 MINUTES, GO THROUGH, GET PEOPLE UP HERE, BUT TRY NOT TO DUPLICATE WHAT EVERYBODY IS SAYING.

IF SOMEBODY GETS UP, I DON'T WANT TO NEAR MY HOUSE.

DON'T GET UP AND SAY THE SAME THING AFTER THEM.

PLEASE LET US MOVE ON AFTER WE BREAK FOR 30 MINUTES FOR LUNCH.

ARE YOU SURE? YEAH, I GOT TO LEAVE.

WHAT TIME? IS THE.

ESSENCE? IT'S GOING TO TAKE ABOUT HALF AN HOUR OR SO.

IS THAT ALL RIGHT THERE? YEAH.

WHAT TIME? ALL RIGHT, FOLKS, LET'S TAKE OUR SEATS.

I'M GOING TO CALL US TO ORDER.

SO THIS IS THE CALL TO THE PUBLIC.

INDIVIDUALS MAY ADDRESS THE BOARD FOR UP TO IN THIS CASE BECAUSE THERE ARE SO MANY OF US.

TWO MINUTES.

WE'LL HAVE IT TIMED.

SO DO KEEP THAT IN MIND.

ON ANY RELEVANT ISSUE WITHIN THE BOARD'S JURISDICTION, PURSUANT TO A.R.S.

38 431.01 PER N H BOARD MEMBERS SHALL NOT DISCUSS OR TAKE ACTION ON MATTERS RAISED DURING THE CALL TO THE PUBLIC.

SO WE CAN'T INTERACT WITH YOU.

THE MORE THE BOARD MAY DIRECT STAFF TO STUDY THE MATTER OR DIRECT THAT THE MATTER BE RESCHEDULED FOR CONSIDERATION AT A LATER DATE.

SO JUST A REMINDER.

TWO MINUTES AND WE'RE GOING TO HAVE MISS POTTER FROM GAME AND FISH COME IN.

AND WHEN THAT IS POSSIBLE, WE'LL ALLOW HER TO SPEAK AS WELL.

SO I'M LOOKING FOR YEAH, MISS POTTER.

IS SHE ABLE TO TO JOIN US AS YET? GAME AND FISH ON TEAMS. ARE YOU THERE? IF NOT, WE CAN COME BACK.

SHE DOES WISH TO SPEAK, SO WE'LL CERTAINLY DO OUR BEST TO MAKE THAT HAPPEN.

MARLIN PEARSON, PRESCOTT VALLEY.

I WISH TO SPEAK.

DID I GET YOUR NAME PRONOUNCED CORRECTLY? MARLIN. WELL, I DID SAY MARLIN IN THIS CASE.

I WAS HOPING NOT TO BE FIRST, ACTUALLY.

OH, SORRY. NO.

THANK YOU. I WAS HOPING I HAVE A BIG MOUTH, SO I WAS HOPING NOT TO BE FIRST.

JUST IDENTIFY YOUR NAME.

MARLIN PEARSON, AND I'M FROM MINGUS MEADOWS.

I'M NEW TO THE AREA.

I MOVED FROM PHOENIX, ARIZONA BECAUSE I WANTED THE QUIET, BECAUSE I WANTED THE BEAUTY, AND I LOVE THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

SO WHEN I FOUND OUT ABOUT THIS RECENTLY, I WAS DISTRAUGHT.

ANGRY? I DON'T WANT IT THERE FOR OBVIOUS REASONS.

THE BATTERY SCARES ME TO DEATH.

FROM WHAT I HEAR FROM CALIFORNIA.

MY SON AND MY DAUGHTER LIVE THERE.

IT IS VERY SCARY AND I TRUST IN THEM BECAUSE MY SON IS AN ATTORNEY.

AND SO I KIND OF LISTEN SOMETIMES.

I'M WORRIED ABOUT THE BATTERY AND WHAT EFFECT IT'S GOING TO HAVE ON US.

I WORRY ABOUT OUR WATER BECAUSE I DO HAVE A.

WELL, YOU CAN SAY THE WORDS.

AND. SORRY. MATT BLAKE, IF I OFFEND YOU.

THERE YOU ARE. I DON'T LIKE THE WORDS IF.

BECAUSE THAT MEANS YOU DON'T KNOW FOR SURE.

I DON'T LIKE THE WORDS MIGHT.

BECAUSE THAT KNOWS YOU DON'T KNOW FOR SURE.

POSSIBLY. THAT REALLY UPSETS ME.

HOPEFULLY. AND WE THINK, NO, I WANT THE FACTS.

I WANT TO KNOW WHAT IT'S GOING TO DO TO MY WELL, I WANT TO KNOW WHAT KIND OF TRAFFIC THERE'S GOING TO BE AND HOW THAT WILL AFFECT US.

I WANT TO KNOW WHAT THE ENERGY SOURCE IS GOING TO DO WHEN IT'S THAT CLOSE TO US.

I'M UPSET ABOUT THE POISON RUNOFF, THE WATER RUNOFF, EVERYTHING AND HOW IT WILL AFFECT US AND HOW IT WILL AFFECT WE THE PEOPLE.

PLEASE ADDRESS THE BOARD.

THANK YOU. I'M SORRY I HAD TO ADDRESS THEM AS WELL.

[03:05:02]

ALL I ASK IS, WOULD YOU WANT THIS IN YOUR BACKYARD? THANK YOU.

JOHN WHITMAN.

IS HE STILL WITH US? JOHN WHITMAN.

ANDREA WHITMAN.

KIMBERLY TERPSTRA.

YOU'RE NOT SPEAKING, BUT IS OPPOSED.

AND SO WE ALSO KNOW THAT AND SAYS HERE IS LARGE SOLAR DOES NOT BELONG NEAR RESIDENTIAL.

JAMES STEIN DOES NOT WISH TO SPEAK.

HE IS OPPOSED.

I'M OPPOSED TO THE ARBITRARY LIMITS PLACED ON THE TOTAL AVERAGE PERMISSIBLE FOR UTILITY SCALE PROJECTS.

INSTEAD OF MANDATING THE CUMULATIVE ACREAGE LIMITS BY A GOVERNMENT ENTITY, THE MARKET SHOULD DECIDE THE NUMBER OF CONSTRUCTED FACILITIES. IT GOES ON TO SAY THERE ARE NATURAL LIMITS, SUCH AS ACCESS TO ROADWAYS AND DISTANCE FROM TRANSMISSION LINES AND SUBSTATIONS THAT WILL LIMIT THE NUMBER OF THESE FACILITIES.

NEXT PERSON IS KIMBERLY HAWK, WHO DOES NOT WISH TO SPEAK BUT IS OPPOSED TO THE MATTER AND HIGHER DENSITY RESIDENTIAL SUBDIVISIONS AND MUNICIPALITIES, OR ANY OTHER ZONING CLASSIFICATION SHOULD NOT BE GIVEN PREFERENTIAL TREATMENT OVER RCU.

RESIDENTIAL. RURAL.

RESIDENTIAL. WHEN IT COMES TO PLACEMENT OF UTILITY SCALE SOLAR FACILITIES.

IT'S CLEAR THAT THE SOLAR ORDINANCE PROMOTES UNFAIR BIAS REGARDING THE PLACEMENT OF UTILITY SCALE SOLAR FARMS IN THE BACKYARDS OF RURAL RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOODS, TO COMMERCIAL AND INDUSTRIAL ZONING SHOULD BE INCLUDED IN DEVELOPMENT AND PERFORMANCE STANDARDS.

SECTION F POINT ONE.

RCU SHOULD NOT BE THE ONLY REQUIRED ZONING DISTRICT FOR PLACEMENT OF UTILITY SCALE SOLAR FARMS AND THREE.

REGARDING F2 SETBACKS, A SETBACK OF 500FT FROM ANY DWELLINGS EXIST OR UNDER EXISTING OR UNDER PERMIT LOCATED IN RCU.

RURAL RESIDENTIAL ZONING IS INAPPROPRIATE AND SHOULD BE A MINIMUM OF ONE MILE OR 5280FT, REGARDLESS OF ADDITIONAL SETBACKS THAT THE PROJECT ITSELF MAY REQUIRE, INCLUDING, BUT NOT LIMITED TO.

ENDANGERED SPECIES.

WILDLIFE CORRIDORS, SCENIC LANDSCAPES AND MUNICIPAL BOUNDARIES, ETC..

NEXT PERSON WHO ALSO DOES NOT WISH TO SPEAK IS LOOKS LIKE THE NAME BRAD CUSTER, AND HE'S OPPOSED TO THE ISSUE. THIS WILL THIS WILL DESTROY VEGETATION, WELLS, ANIMALS, HABITAT AND I BELIEVE WOULD CREATE A MUCH MORE HAZARDOUS ENVIRONMENT FOR FIRES.

THE NEXT SPEAKER WHO DOES WISH TO SPEAK IS AUTUMN JOHNSON, ARIZONA SOLAR ENERGY INDUSTRIES ASSOCIATION.

PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.

GOOD AFTERNOON SUPERVISORS.

AUTUMN JOHNSON, ON BEHALF OF THE ARIZONA SOLAR ENERGY INDUSTRIES ASSOCIATION, OR RCA.

WE'VE PREVIOUSLY SUBMITTED WRITTEN COMMENTS ON THIS MATTER.

I DON'T HAVE A LOT OF NEW INFORMATION TO SHARE.

IN ADDITION TO THOSE, I WILL SAY THERE WERE SEVERAL QUESTIONS EARLIER ABOUT THE RETIREMENT OF TRANSMISSION LINES, AND I DID USE THE BREAK TO CHECK WITH APS, SRP, AND THE LINE SITING COMMITTEE. AND I'M NOT I HAVE NOT BEEN ABLE TO FIND ANYONE THAT'S ACTUALLY AWARE OF LINES EVER BEING RETIRED, BECAUSE WE ACTUALLY HAVE A SHORTAGE OF TRANSMISSION LINES, AND THEY TAKE A VERY LONG TIME TO BUILD.

HOWEVER, THE EASEMENTS TO BUILD THOSE LINES SHOULD INCLUDE REQUIREMENTS ON WHAT WOULD HAPPEN SHOULD RETIREMENT ACTUALLY BECOME A NECESSITY.

I WILL ALSO JUST SAY YOU KNOW, THE CONVERSATION TODAY HAS BEEN SIGNIFICANTLY DIFFERENT, I WOULD SAY, THAN KIND OF WHAT HAS HAPPENED OVER THE COURSE OF THE P AND Z MEETINGS AND SEVERAL MEETINGS WITH STAFF.

I DON'T THINK THAT IT'S INDUSTRY OR THE UTILITY'S INTEREST TO BUILD ON EVERY ACRE OF LAND IN YAVAPAI OR TO, YOU KNOW, BUILD ON STEEP HILLSIDES OR YOUR SCENIC VISTAS OR THOSE KINDS OF THINGS.

RIGHT. WE UNDERSTAND THAT THERE ARE CONCERNS, AND THE POINT OF THIS ORDINANCE IS TO TRY TO ADDRESS THOSE IN A WAY THAT MAKES SENSE FOR BOTH RELIABILITY AND ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT

[03:10:01]

AND SO WE THINK THAT THE THAT THE ORDINANCE AS NEGOTIATED WITH, WITH BEFORE PLANNING AND ZONING IS A GOOD MIDDLE GROUND.

WE STILL HAD SOME ADDITIONAL RECOMMENDATIONS IN OUR LAST LETTER THAT WE SUBMITTED.

UNFORTUNATELY, OVER LABOR DAY WEEKEND, BECAUSE IT WAS A SHORT WEEK BECAUSE OF THE HOLIDAY.

BUT THOSE TOUCH ON THE ACREAGE CAPS AND WHETHER OR NOT YOU INCLUDE SOME ADDITIONAL LANGUAGE THAT WOULD ALLOW THAT TO MOVE UP OVER TIME.

THERE ARE SOME CONCERNS ABOUT THE WAIVER PROVISION.

WE'VE SUGGESTED SOME SPECIFIC LANGUAGE THAT WOULD MAKE THAT WAIVER PROVISION A LITTLE BIT MORE USABLE.

AND THEN WE ALSO HAD SOME CONCERNS ABOUT SETBACKS THAT WE THINK COULD BE ALLEVIATED WITH THE ACREAGE CAP SPECIFIC TO SPECIFIC PROJECTS.

IT'S AT 3000 ACRES RIGHT NOW.

WE HAD PROPOSED FIVE, BUT EVEN FOUR WOULD HELP WITH THERE ARE DOZENS OF DIFFERENT KINDS OF SETBACKS.

AND SO THAT REALLY REDUCES THE ABILITY OF THE PROJECTS WITHIN THAT SIZE.

I'M HAPPY TO TAKE OTHER QUESTIONS.

OTHERWISE I THINK HOPEFULLY YOU'VE SEEN MY LETTERS AND I THINK THOSE ARE SUFFICIENT.

THANK YOU. THE NEXT SPEAKER IS LUCY WHEAT AND SHE DOES WISH TO SPEAK AND IS OPPOSED.

IS SHE WITH US? ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU.

SILVER STAPLETON.

SHE HAD TO GO HOME TO FEED HER DOGS.

SHE'S COMING BACK.

I'M GOING TO PUT HER NAME OVER HERE, THOUGH, SO WHEN SHE DOES, SHE HAS THAT OPPORTUNITY.

WE SHOULD ALL GO HOME AND FEED OUR DOGS WHEN IT'S NEEDED.

JUST SAY IT.

EXCEPT. MATT.

STEPHEN COOK.

THANK YOU. STEPHEN.

HE IS OPPOSED AND HE WISHES TO SPEAK.

HELLO, I'M STEPHEN COOK, I LIVE IN PRESCOTT.

I AM PRO-SOLAR DRIVEN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.

I OPPOSE THE ORDINANCE, BUT I'M READY TO SUPPORT IT PROVIDED ONE CHANGE IS MADE.

THE CUMULATIVE ACRES LIMIT ON SOLAR 12,000 OR WHATEVER MUST GO BOTH.

AT YOUR JULY 3RD MEETING AND THE AUGUST 8TH PLANNING AND ZONING MEETING, I PROVIDED HANDOUTS TO DETAIL MY REASONING.

I LEFT COPIES OF THE SECOND ONE FOR EACH OF YOU.

THE HANDOUTS MAKE THE TECHNICAL, RATIONAL CASE AS TO WHY THE LIMIT IS ARBITRARY AND MUST GO.

BUT RIGHT NOW I WANT TO GET INTO THE EMOTIONAL WEEDS.

IN PARTICULAR, I WANT TO TALK ABOUT FEAR.

I BELIEVE FEAR IS BEHIND MANY ANTI-SOLAR POSITIONS.

IS THE FEAR JUSTIFIED? POSSIBLY WITH, WITH, WITH THE POSSIBLE EXCEPTION OF LITHIUM BATTERIES, TO WHICH I SAY THERE ARE BETTER AND SAFER AND MUCH CHEAPER UTILITY SCALE BATTERY TECHNOLOGIES OUT THERE AVAILABLE.

NOW, I SAY FEAR OF SOLAR IS UNJUSTIFIED.

LAST NIGHT I HEARD A REPORT ON THE NATIONAL NEWS.

I HESITATE BRINGING IT UP BECAUSE SOMEBODY MIGHT SAY IT'S FEAR, FEAR MONGERING, BUT I THINK IT INFORMS ONE ONE ONE'S BIG PICTURE VIEW OF REALITY.

THE BASIC MESSAGE IS THAT PHOENIX EXCEEDED 100 DEGREES FOR THE 100TH STRAIGHT DAY.

NOW, WHAT'S AMAZING IS THE PREVIOUS RECORD WAS JUST 76 DAYS.

ALL RIGHT. SO CLEARLY THERE IS SOMETHING GOING ON HERE.

AND TOMORROW IT'S SUPPOSED TO HIT 114.

THERE WE ARE IN NEW UNCHARTED CLIMATE TERRITORY.

ISN'T JUST PHOENIX. PEOPLE ALL OVER THE WORLD ARE GETTING THIS SAME MESSAGE.

YOU'LL NOTICE I'M WEARING A SHIRT.

CLIMATE CAN'T WAIT.

ONE OF THE ORGANIZATIONS REPRESENTED ON THE BACK OF THE SHIRT I WORKED WITH YESTERDAY TO DRAFT A LETTER TO YOU.

LET ME READ A LITTLE OF IT.

RATHER THAN ARBITRARILY LIMITED, LIMITED, THE COUNTY SHOULD FACILITATE UTILITY SCALE SOLAR AND CONTRIBUTE TO THE NATIONAL GOAL OF TRANSITIONING OUR ECONOMY TO RENEWABLE ENERGY AND AWAY FROM FOSSIL FUELS.

OKAY, FOLKS, THE SCIENTIFIC CONSENSUS COULD NOT BE CLEARER.

CLIMATE CHANGE IS HAPPENING NOW.

THE ENERGY CHOICES WE MAKE TODAY CAN MAKE OR BREAK OUR ABILITY TO FIGHT IT.

IF YOU'RE WORRIED ABOUT SOLAR OVERRUNNING THE COUNTY MARKET CONDITIONS, I'M GOING TO ASK YOU TO RESERVE THE REMAINDER OF YOUR COMMENTS.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

LISA SMITH WISHES TO SPEAK.

IT IS OPPOSED.

THANK YOU, MADAM VICE CHAIR AND SUPERVISORS.

A CURSORY SEARCH.

MY NAME IS LISA SMITH AND I LIVE IN MINGUS MEADOWS WITH MY HUSBAND.

A CURSORY SEARCH ON SOCIAL MEDIA WILL PRODUCE DOZENS OF EXAMPLES OF THE HORRORS ASSOCIATED WITH UTILITY SCALE SOLAR FARMS IN ESTABLISHED RURAL NEIGHBORHOODS.

THERE IS NO NEED TO PASS AMENDMENT 608 TO FIND OUT WHETHER IT WORKS OR NOT, WHETHER IT ACTUALLY PROTECTS CONSTITUENTS AND THE ENVIRONMENT.

THE PROOF EXISTS THAT UTILITY SCALE SOLAR FARMS DESTROY THE PLACES THEY ARE BUILT, WHEREVER THESE FARMS ARE LOCATED.

THE AREA BECOMES AN INDUSTRIAL ZONE WHETHER OR NOT IT WAS ONE TO BEGIN WITH.

608 CANNOT IN ANY FORM REGULATE CLEAN HOMEGROWN POWER.

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608 IS JUST A REZONING SCHEME TO AID AND ABET THE BUSINESS VENTURES OF MULTINATIONAL COMPANIES, DRIVEN BY U.S.

FEDERAL SUBSIDIES AND GRANTS TO MEET THE PARAMETERS OF SO-CALLED FEDERAL GREEN ENERGY MANDATES, SO-CALLED FREE MONEY.

OUR TAX DOLLARS POURED INTO THESE COMPANIES ONLY ENRICH THE COMPANIES THEMSELVES, NOT THE COMMUNITIES THEY DESTROY.

THE CHIPS ACT HAS PRODUCED SOME OF THE WORLD'S LARGEST SEMICONDUCTOR FACTORIES HERE IN ARIZONA.

DID YOU KNOW THAT PV MODULES ARE MADE UP OF SEMICONDUCTOR MATERIAL? CONDUCTIVE METAL CONTACTS ARE THE GRID LINES IN A PV MODULE.

THE PANELS THEMSELVES CONTAIN HAZARDOUS CHEMICALS CADMIUM, LEAD, AND ANTIMONY.

SOME PANELS MAY CONTAIN CRITICAL CRITICAL MATERIALS INCLUDING ALUMINUM, TIN, TELLURIUM, AND AS WELL AS GALLIUM AND INDIUM IN SOME THIN FILM MODULES, WHICH CAN AND DO LEACH INTO THE WATER TABLE WHEN DAMAGED.

THE FACT THAT CADMIUM CAN BE WASHED OUT OF SOLAR MODULES BY RAINWATER IS INCREASINGLY A CONCERN FOR LOCAL ENVIRONMENTALISTS LIKE THE CONCERNED CITIZENS AT FAWN LAKE IN VIRGINIA, WHERE THERE IS A 6350 ACRE SOLAR FARM THAT PARTLY POWERS MICROSOFT DATA CENTERS, IT'S ESTIMATED THERE ARE 100,000 POUNDS OF CADMIUM. I'M SORRY, I THOUGHT THIS WAS THREE MINUTES.

NO, IT'S TWO MINUTES.

BUT WE DO GET YOUR POINT, AND I VERY MUCH APPRECIATE IT.

I'VE ONLY GOT A LITTLE BIT LEFT.

OKAY, ONE MORE SENTENCE.

100,000 POUNDS OF CADMIUM CONTAINED IN THE 1.8 MILLION PANELS AT THAT FACILITY.

LEACHING FROM BROKEN PANELS DAMAGED DURING NATURAL EVENTS SUCH AS HAIL, HIGH DAMAGING WINDS AND EARTHQUAKES, AND AT DECOMMISSIONING, IS A BIG CONCERN.

CADMIUM IS A TOXIC METAL.

AIRBORNE CADMIUM IS RESPIRABLE, A MAJOR NON-OCCUPATIONAL SOURCE OF RESPIRABLE.

CADMIUM IS FOUND IN CIGARETTES, AND IT'S MORE READILY TAKEN UP BY PLANTS THAN OTHER METALS.

THE INTERNATIONAL RENEWABLE ENERGY AGENCY ARENA IN 2016 ESTIMATED THERE WAS ABOUT 250,000 METRIC TONS OF SOLAR PANEL WASTE IN THE WORLD AT THE END OF THAT YEAR. I RAN A PROJECTED THIS AMOUNT COULD REACH 78 MILLION METRIC TONS BY 2050.

MISS SMITH, MAY I ASK YOU TO CONCLUDE? SURE. I'M ALMOST DONE.

ACTUALLY, ABOUT TWO MINUTES IS WHAT WE AGREED TO.

AND SO IF I GIVE YOU MORE THAN I'M GIVING OTHERS.

NO, NO.

I'M SORRY. YOUR TIME IS UP AND I HAVE ONLY FOUR MINUTES.

THERE ARE ONLY FIVE STATES.

ARIZONA IS NOT ONE THAT HAS A HAZARDOUS MATERIALS.

THANK YOU. NO, WE ALL GET TO.

WAIT A MINUTE. THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

AND I APPRECIATE YOUR.

THANK YOU. YEAH.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

LET ME PUT MY GLASSES BACK ON.

I HAVE A DANIEL OSBOURNE OR A SHAWN HE'S OPPOSED, AND HE WISHES TO SPEAK.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH, DANIEL.

PLEASE COME FORWARD.

I WILL TRY TO BE BRIEF.

DANIEL OSBOURNE, UNINCORPORATED YAVAPAI COUNTY.

I'LL PICK UP WHERE THE LAST LEFT OFF.

JUST A LITTLE BIT. TALKING ABOUT CADMIUM TELLURIDE.

AS THE SECOND MOST COMMON PHOTOVOLTAIC MATERIAL.

BUT MY CONCERN WASN'T EVEN AS MUCH ABOUT THE MATERIALS USED AS WE DON'T SEEM TO HAVE ANY ANYTHING TO ADDRESS A DAMAGE MAINTENANCE SCHEDULE. WE HAVE A REPLACEMENT AND RETIREMENT, BUT WITH NATURAL EVENTS COMING INTO PLAY, DAMAGE WILL HAPPEN AND WHEN IT IS EXPOSED, IT BECOMES A HAZARD.

WE HAVE NO PROVISION IN PLACE THAT I'VE HEARD AS OF YET.

WHAT IS THE TIMELINE? HOW LONG IS IT ALLOWED TO BE EXPOSED? HOW FAST DO THEY HAVE TO HAVE IT REPAIRED? ALONG WITH THAT, WHO IS GOING TO INSPECT THIS? WHO'S GOING TO MAINTAIN THIS? WE'RE A COMPLAINT BASED SYSTEM, AND I DON'T SEE A COMPANY SAYING WE'RE NOT IN COMPLIANCE.

CAN YOU COME OUT AND CITE US? CAN YOU FIND US, PLEASE? YOU KNOW, SO I DON'T REALLY SEE THAT BEING A THING.

YOU KNOW, WE TALK ABOUT THE WILDLIFE IMPACT.

WE'VE BEEN VERY FOCUSED ON WILDLIFE, BUT I'VE HEARD VERY LITTLE ABOUT THE RURAL CITIZENS OF UNINCORPORATED YAVAPAI COUNTY.

I LIVE DIRECTLY BENEATH WHERE THE LINES ARE PROPOSED TO BE.

I NEVER HEARD ABOUT THIS ISSUE UNTIL I GOT THE LETTER IN THE MAIL, WHICH WAS APPARENTLY MONTHS AFTER THE MEETINGS HAD ALREADY BEGUN.

SO THE LACK OF INFORMATION THAT WAS OUT THERE DIDN'T GIVE US A WHOLE LOT OF TIME TO REACT.

BUT WITH THE DAMAGE REPLACEMENT AND THE POTENTIAL PROBLEMS THAT THAT BRINGS.

YOU KNOW, I FIND IT IRONIC WE TALK ABOUT SEPTEMBER 2024 BEING EMERGENCY PREPAREDNESS MONTH, AND A LOT OF PEOPLE MOVE TO THOSE RURAL AREAS JUST FOR THAT.

WHY RISK SUCH A BIG PART OF EMERGENCY PREPAREDNESS AND SELF-RELIANCE, SUCH AS GROUNDWATER QUALITY, IN THE MONTH THAT WE'VE DECLARED TO BE EMERGENCY PREPAREDNESS MONTH? WHY TAKE THAT AWAY FROM THE CITIZENS? I DON'T THINK THAT'S SOMETHING THEY WANT.

BUT MY LAST POINT IS, YOU KNOW, THERE'S THE ARGUMENT THAT SOLAR WILL LOWER ENERGY COSTS.

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IT DOES NOT LOWER COSTS WHEN YOU BRING IN ADDITIONAL EQUIPMENT THAT REQUIRES MAINTENANCE AND REPLACEMENT.

THE ARGUMENT WAS MADE THE PANELS MAY BE REPLACED IN TEN YEARS.

WHEN TECHNOLOGY IMPROVES, THAT COST GETS PASSED TO THE CONSUMER.

THANK YOU. I APPRECIATE YOUR TIME.

THANK YOU. THE NEXT SPEAKER IS STACY BARNABY.

DO WE HAVE A STACY? ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU.

THEY WANTED TO SPEAK ALSO, SO MAYBE THEY'LL COME BACK.

RICHARD. OPPOSITE.

THANK YOU. RICHARD, PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.

I'M RICHARD OPPELT.

I LIVE IN PRESCOTT.

RESPECTFULLY, I URGE THIS BOARD TO ENABLE UTILITY SCALE SOLAR DEVELOPMENT IN OUR COUNTY.

SOLAR DEVELOPMENT GROWS OUR ECONOMIC BASE IN A DIVERSIFIED MANNER.

IT ALSO PROVIDES ANOTHER OPTION FOR LANDOWNERS TO UTILIZE THEIR PROPERTY.

RATIONAL REGULATION CAN FACILITATE LANDOWNER RIGHTS.

ONEROUS REGULATION ERODES RIGHTS.

LASTLY, I WOULD NOTE THAT AN ABSOLUTE CAP ON ACREAGE CONSTRAINED SUPPLY, THEREBY BENEFITING EARLY PROJECTS AND DIMINISHING OPTIONS FOR LATER ENTRANTS.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION.

THANK YOU, MR. APPLET. MARY BETH HERREN I'LL SAY THAT FAST, AND THAT WAY YOU CAN'T TELL.

THANK YOU.

I APPRECIATE IT. GO AHEAD, MARY BETH.

MADAM CHAIR AND REST OF THE BOARD.

STATE YOUR NAME. MARY BETH RING.

THANK YOU. SO I APPRECIATE YOUR TIME WITH THE ORDINANCE, SIR.

AND I APPRECIATE THE BOARD FOR DOING THIS.

THIS ORDINANCE DOES NEED TO BE DONE.

IT IS JUST NOT READY FOR PRIME TIME.

I THINK WITH EVERYONE HERE, I THINK YOU CAN REALIZE THAT THIS IS REALLY JUST EVERYONE'S FIRST TIME FOR PUBLIC COMMENT.

AND I THINK THERE'S SOME GOOD SUGGESTIONS HERE.

MY SUGGESTION IS IF THIS IS FOR PUBLIC SAFETY AND WELFARE THAT THIS ORDINANCE IS GOING TO BE DONE.

I JUST WANT TO PRESENT TWO KIND OF COMMENTS.

WE'RE DOING SOME RESEARCH ON AN ARTICLE, AND IF ANYONE WHO KNOWS WHAT I DO WE DOCUMENT EVERYTHING WE DO IN AN ARTICLE.

THERE'S TWO THINGS I WANT TO POINT OUT.

MR. TOBIN, I WILL TOTALLY DISAGREE WITH YOU.

THERE IS A HEAT ISLAND EFFECT WITH SOLAR FARMS. AND THE STUDIES THAT DO SHOW IF YOU CONVERT CELSIUS TO FAHRENHEIT DURING THE DAY, IT'S ANYWHERE FROM ABOUT 37 TO 39 DEGREES HIGHER, AND AT NIGHT IT'LL GO DOWN TO 32 DEGREES.

SO I JUST WANT THE AUDIENCE TO CONSIDER THAT IF CHINO VALLEY ALLOWS THEIR PROJECTS AND THE UNINCORPORATED AREAS OF THIS COUNTY TO DO IT, THE CUMULATIVE EFFECT OF THESE HIGH HEAT ISLAND EFFECTS.

I ALSO WANTED TO GO INTO THE FIRE DANGERS.

THE STUDIES THAT THE U.S.

FIRE ADMINISTRATION.

YOU HAVE TO UNDERSTAND, THESE FIRES ARE CATEGORIZED AS OTHER.

SO FIRE TRACE IS AN INTERNATIONAL CORPORATION.

BUT THEY'RE HEADQUARTERED IN SCOTTSDALE.

IT IS VERY DIFFICULT TO EVEN GATHER INFORMATION ON SOLAR FIRES, INCLUDING SOLAR FARMS. A LOT OF TIMES THEY ARE JUST PUT OUT WITH THE COMPANIES THEMSELVES.

THEY'RE GREATLY, GREATLY UNDERREPORTED.

THAT'S WHAT THE COMPANIES IN THE RISK MANAGEMENT, THEY'RE STARTING TO FIND OUT.

THEY ARE VERY DANGEROUS.

THANK YOU. SO I JUST WANT THE THE ORDINANCE TO REFLECT THAT AND THE BOARD TO REFLECT THAT WHEN YOU'RE TRYING TO.

I THINK THE CAPS ARE A GOOD IDEA.

I ALSO THINK A CAP WITHIN THE PROJECTS THEMSELVES, IF YOU CONSIDER THE MUNICIPALITIES, TOO.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

SO, YOU KNOW, WE'RE GETTING A LOT OF GOOD COMMENTS.

AND I KNOW THAT, MATT, YOU'RE MAKING A NOTE OF THEM SO THAT WE CAN UNDERSTAND THEM MORE FULLY IN OUR ORDINANCE PROCESS DEVELOPMENT PROCESS. DEB, ASSIST.

THANK YOU. AND AS OPPOSED TO THE PROJECT, PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.

EXCUSE ME. MY NAME IS DEB THALASSITIS PRESCOTT.

I AM NOT OPPOSED TO THE PROJECT.

I SUPPORT THE ORDINANCE.

I'M OPPOSED TO ITS ADOPTION TODAY.

THERE'S BEEN INSUFFICIENT PUBLIC INPUT AND EDUCATION.

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FROM WHAT I CAN SEE, THERE'S BEEN NO INPUT FROM THE AREA MUNICIPALITIES AND THE FEW THAT I'VE TALKED TO HAVE SAID THEY WERE SURPRISED BY THIS.

THAT SHOULDN'T BE. THIS IS A REGION WIDE ISSUE.

IF THE COUNTY HELD NUMEROUS PUBLIC INPUT SESSIONS, THEY WERE NOT WELL ADVERTISED.

I THINK A GENTLEMAN JUST GOT UP HERE AND SAID HE LIVES NEAR ONE OF THE PROPOSED PROJECTS, AND HE GOT A LETTER SOMETIME IN MID-AUGUST.

SO AND TODAY THERE WERE SO MANY CHANGES PRESENTED.

I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU COULD VOTE ON THIS.

IT LOOKS LIKE YOU'RE TRYING TO FLY AN AIRPLANE WHILE BUILDING IT.

I WOULD ENCOURAGE YOU TO LOOK AT RIVERSIDE COUNTY IN CALIFORNIA.

THEY HAVE THE RIVERSIDE EAST SOLAR ENERGY ZONE 14 UTILITY SCALE SOLAR INSTALLATIONS.

FIVE OF THEM HAVE BEEN BUILT SINCE 2022.

THERE'S ONE THAT'S 3500 ACRES.

THEY REDUCE THE CARBON EMISSIONS BY 1.7 TONS, 1.7 MILLION TONS.

AND THERE'S A WEALTH OF INFORMATION FROM THEM ABOUT THE IMPACTS TO THE PUBLIC INTEREST.

AND I THINK IF YOU START TO TAKE A LOOK AT SOME OF THESE PLACES THAT ARE FURTHER ALONG THAN ARIZONA OR YAVAPAI COUNTY, YOU'LL FIGURE OUT WHAT NEEDS TO BE INCLUDED IN THE ORDINANCE TO PROTECT US, THE PUBLIC.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

KEN. DAFORA.

PARDON ME. IT'S KEN SPADAFORA, AND HE HAD TO LEAVE.

OKAY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

BRIAN MONTEIRO.

HE HAD TO LEAVE. I THINK THERE'S A STATEMENT.

AND BRIAN HAD TO LEAVE AS WELL.

BRIAN HAD TO LEAVE, BUT HE PUT A STATEMENT ON THERE AND SILVER STAPLED TO THE BACK.

SO, BRIAN, IF I MAY, LANDERO WANTED TO SPEAK.

HE'S NOT HERE. BUT HE DID PUT A COMMENT, AND IT GOES AS FOLLOWS.

AFTER I PUT THESE VERY HANDY GLASSES BACK ON, IT WOULD APPEAR THAT THE MAJORITY OF FEEDBACK TO THE PROPOSAL PROPOSED ORDINANCE PRIOR TO EIGHT 824.

PNC MEETING WAS PROVIDED BY RCA, A NONOBJECTIVE PARTY IN EARLY AUGUST.

AFFECTED RESIDENTS WERE MADE AWARE OF THIS MATTER AND AS CAN BE SEEN BY THE PUBLIC COMMENTS OPPOSED AS OF EIGHT, EIGHT, 29, 29, 24. I WOULD ASK, I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO DISPUTE THE TAX BENEFITS AS SHOWN IN EXHIBIT A, INCLUDED IN RCA COMMENTS.

LETTERS OF LETTER FROM SIX 1424.

I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO AND IT CONTINUES POINT OUT THAT ON FEBRUARY 6TH, 2024, THE ARIZONA CORPORATION COMMISSION COMMITTEE COMMISSION VOTED 4 TO 1 TO ELIMINATE THE RENEWABLE ENERGY STANDARD TARIFF OR REST.

THE ACE FOUND THAT OR THE ARIZONA CORPORATION COMMISSION FOUND THAT SETTING ANNUAL TARGETS FOR UTILITIES TO DELIVER 15% IN RENEWABLE ENERGY BY 2025 HAS COST CONSUMER RATEPAYERS AN ADDITIONAL $2.3 BILLION. THAT'S BASED ON 2006 DATA.

YEAH, I THINK IT'S A GOOD REMINDER THAT WE'RE JUST ADDRESSING THE UNINCORPORATED AREA OF THE COUNTY, NOT MUNICIPALITIES, I.E.

CHINO VALLEY PROJECT.

SO I JUST WANT YOU TO KNOW WHAT WE'RE HERE TODAY FOR AND TO MAKE SURE YOU HAVE THAT SEPARATION IN MIND.

VALERIE JAMES, AS WE CONTINUE.

THANK YOU.

PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.

VICE CHAIR, DOCTOR MICHAELS AND OTHER SUPERVISORS.

THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING US TO SPEAK.

I WAS PRO PRO SOLA.

BUT AFTER STUDYING THIS ISSUE, I NOW THINK.

AND NOW THAT THE PUBLIC IS ENGAGED, LIKE, YOU KNOW, WE'RE MANY OF US ARE LATE TO THE GAME BECAUSE WE DIDN'T KNOW.

I THINK WE SHOULD ABSOLUTELY BAN LARGE SOLAR FIELDS FROM YAVAPAI COUNTY.

THE WAIVERS AND THE ORDINANCES DON'T MAKE IT EFFECTIVE.

I'M GLAD TO SEE THAT.

I HEAR SOME CARING ABOUT THE ENVIRONMENT THROUGH SOME OF THE TOPICS TODAY.

BUT WHAT CONCERNS ME EVEN MORE IS OUR LIMITED WATER SUPPLY, ALONG WITH THE BURN DANGERS AND THE WATER CONTAMINATION WHEN WATER IS USED TO FIGHT THESE BATTERY FIRES.

THESE ARE GOING TO BE A HUGE ISSUES FOR OUR NEIGHBORHOODS.

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REGARDLESS IF IT'S A DENSE COMMUNITY LIKE GRANDVILLE OR A RURAL COMMUNITY OF 2 TO 5 ACRE PROPERTIES, I SAY SHRED THIS ORDINANCE AND BAN SOLAR FIELDS FROM YAVAPAI COUNTY.

DON'T MAKE THIS THE EXPERIENCE EXPERIMENT PLACE.

A SOLAR FARM LIKE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IS GOING TO IMPACT.

YOU KNOW, WE TALKED ABOUT 40 YEARS.

YOU KNOW, IT'S ABOUT FOUR GENERATIONS OF KIDS.

AND I JUST DEFINITELY WANT TO SEE IT STAY AT LEAST FIVE MILES FROM NEIGHBORHOODS.

AND LIKE ONE OF THE PREVIOUS SPEAKERS, I DON'T THINK THAT WE'RE READY TO PASS THIS ORDINANCE TODAY.

SO I DO THINK THERE ARE SOME MODIFICATIONS THAT NEED TO BE MADE.

AS SOMEBODY ELSE SAID, THE INDUSTRY HAS HAD A LOT OF INPUT SINCE MAY.

WE JUST FOUND OUT AT THE END OF AUGUST.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

JULIE PINEL, PENSACOLA.

THANK YOU. HELP ME WITH YOUR NAME.

THANK YOU. YEAH. THANK YOU.

GOOD TO BE HERE. GREETINGS.

I AM A RETIRED CITY PLANNER AND RURAL COUNTY PLANNER.

I APPLAUD WHAT YOU'RE DOING.

THE STAFF AND THE BOARD, PLANNING COMMISSION BRINGING THIS TOGETHER BECAUSE IT'S SUCH A VITAL LAND USE.

WE NEED DIVERSE DIVERSIFICATION OF THE ENERGY PORTFOLIO STATEWIDE.

WE HAVE A BEAUTIFUL, SUNNY RESOURCE THAT WE REALLY DO NEED TO TAP INTO.

IT NEEDS TO BE DONE THOUGHTFULLY.

MITIGATION. ADEQUATE BUFFERS.

SENSITIVE AREAS.

OFF LIMITS.

BUT WE REALLY DO NEED TO BRING OURSELVES TO THE TO THE POINT OF GENERATING CAPACITY FOR OUR OWN INDEPENDENCE IN SOLAR, AS A MARKET, AS A JOB RESOURCE.

AS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR RANCHERS TO HAVE SOME ALTERNATIVE ADDITIONAL.

ECONOMIC PORTFOLIO ELEMENTS.

SO I HOPE YOU'LL KEEP AN OPEN MIND AND I.

HOPE YOU WILL CONSIDER THE POSSIBILITY OF IF NOT NOW, BUT WITHIN THE NEAR.

FUTURE. ALLOWING MORE THAN THE 12,000 ACRE CAP.

THAT'S A VERY SMALL.

AMOUNT THAT YOU'RE CONSIDERING RIGHT NOW.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

MR. OR MISS.

I'M SORRY. KATHLEEN MURPHY, WHO WISHES TO SPEAK AS SHE HAD.

DID SHE PERHAPS HAVE TO LEAVE? MAY I READ HER COMMENTS? THIS ISSUE.

NEEDS TO GO BACK TO PLANNING AND ZONING.

TO. RECONSIDER.

SCALE. THIS NEEDS TO BE A TEMPLATE FOR THE COUNTY TO SHOWCASE OUR COMMITMENT TO RENEWABLE ENERGY.

THESE FORMS MUST BE USED FOR OUR FOR OUR LOCAL COMMUNITY ONLY.

I THANK YOU FOR THAT COMMENT.

EVA OLIP.

THANK YOU. MY NAME IS EVA OLIP AND I LIVE IN POQUITO VALLEY.

I APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK.

TRY AND NOT NOT BE REDUNDANT WITH ANYBODY ELSE.

PRIMARY CONCERN, MANY CONCERNS.

BUT PRIMARY CONCERN IS THE POSSIBILITY OR PROBABILITY OF FIRES DUE TO THE BATTERY STORAGE.

ONE OF THE THINGS I DID NOT SEE MENTIONED IN THE PROPOSED ORDINANCE IS THE OPPORTUNITY TO ALLOW FOR SOLAR WITHOUT ALLOWING FOR BATTERY STORAGE AT THE SAME LOCATION.

I WOULD LIKE TO SEE IF THERE IS ANY WAY TO SPREAD THAT OUT IN SOME CAPACITY.

THE PROXIMITY OF AND I KNOW, I KNOW, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE ORDINANCE.

WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT THE DRACONIS PROJECT, HOWEVER.

THAT'S COMING SOON.

ATTRACTIONS, I THINK.

SO IF SUCH A THING WERE TO HAPPEN THE PROXIMITY OF THAT TO HOUSING AND IN MY.

IF I'M ONLY SPEAKING PERSONALLY DOWN PAQUITO VALLEY, WE'RE IN THAT PRAIRIE.

AND IF THERE'S A FIRE, NONE OF US HAVE HYDRANTS.

WE HAVE LIMITED FIRE CAPACITY, FIREFIGHTING CAPACITY.

IT WOULD PROBABLY TAKE THE WHOLE QUAD CITIES FIREFIGHTING ABILITIES TO FIGHT SUCH AN ENORMOUS FIRE, THEN PUTTING DANGER FOR THE OTHER COMMUNITIES WHERE THEIR FIREFIGHTING ABILITY IS NO LONGER IN USE.

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FIREFIGHTING ISSUE IS A BIG DEAL.

I'M SKIPPING SOME OF THIS OTHER STUFF.

OTHER PEOPLE HAVE MENTIONED IT.

ONE THING THAT NOBODY HAS MENTIONED, AND MR. BLAKE KINDLY DID MENTION THAT HE FOUGHT FOR A HIGHER LIMIT OF INSURANCE, AND EVERYBODY GLOSSES OVER THIS.

HOWEVER, IF WE'RE GOING BACK TO THE FIRE, THE LIMIT OF INSURANCE THAT IS PROPOSED IN THIS ORDINANCE SAYS 1 MILLION PER OCCURRENCE, 2 MILLION AGGREGATE.

I CARRY THAT ON MY PROPERTY AS AN INDIVIDUAL.

GOD FORBID. OKAY.

IF THEY HAVE A HUGE FIRE AND MULTIPLE HOMES IN POQUITO VALLEY GET DAMAGED, THAT'S A LUDICROUS AMOUNT.

POINT MADE. THANK YOU SO MUCH.

I APPRECIATE IT.

KATHY SMITH, UNINCORPORATED AREA.

AND SHE DOES NOT WISH TO SPEAK, BUT SHE IS OPPOSED AND THEN GOES ON TO SAY, WHILE I'M NOT OPPOSED TO SOLAR, I DO OPPOSE IRRESPONSIBLE SOLAR FARMS, SUCH AS THE ONE BEING PROPOSED BY DRACONIS.

OF COURSE, THAT'S OFF POINT, SO I'M GOING TO ASSUME THERE'S SOMETHING RELEVANT TO THIS TODAY.

THIS IS BEING PROPOSED IN A LOCATION LESS THAN 500 YARDS FROM MY BACK YARD.

AND SO I'M GOING TO THIS IS A THIS IS CONCERNING FOR MANY REASONS, INCLUDING THE POTENTIAL FOR CONTAMINATION OF OUR WELLS, FIRE DANGER, ETC..

THERE ARE BETTER, MORE RESPONSIBLE OPTIONS.

AND AGAIN, I'M GIVING HER THE CREDIT BENEFIT OF THE DOUBT BECAUSE THIS IS ABOUT A SPECIFIC DEVELOPMENT, BUT ALL RELATED TO INFORMATION THAT YOU WILL WANT TO TAKE IN. I AM SURE IN YOUR CONSIDERATIONS.

AND YOSHINAGA.

YEAH, I PROBABLY JUST BUTCHERED THAT, DIDN'T I? SO. BUT THAT'S YOUR LAUGH FOR THE DAY.

AND YOSHINAGA. NOT REALLY AN YOSHINAGA FROM MINGUS MEADOWS.

THANK YOU. AND I AM FOR AN ORDINANCE, A SOLAR ORDINANCE.

I THINK WE DESPERATELY NEED ONE TO PROVIDE GUIDELINES FOR COMPANIES COMING IN TO PROVIDE THIS SERVICE FOR US.

I DO HAVE SOME CONCERNS.

AGAIN, WE TALK A LOT ABOUT THE WILDLIFE, BUT MAYBE I'M PART OF THE WILDLIFE AND I'M THINKING ABOUT THE PUBLIC SAFETY AND WATER.

AGAIN, TO ME, WATER IS GOLD HERE.

AND I WOULD NOT I WOULD NOT LIKE ANY SOLAR FARM TO BE OVER AN AQUIFER OR GROUNDWATER, WHERE IT CAN AFFECT MY ABILITY TO LIVE IN THE RURAL AREA WHERE WE ALL HAVE WELLS.

SHOULD A FACILITY OR BE BROUGHT UP AND THEY USE HERBICIDES? I THINK THEY SHOULD BE DOING ANNUAL TESTING OF THE LOCAL WELL, WELLS TO MAKE SURE THAT THERE IS NO CONTAMINATION.

AND THEN HOW ARE THEY GOING TO FIX IT IF THERE IS? THEY TALK ABOUT SECTION F1, WHERE SOLAR FACILITIES ARE REQUIRED TO BE IN RESIDENTIAL AREAS.

I THINK, BUT YET THE PREFERRED SITES TALK ABOUT INDUSTRIAL AREAS, DECOMMISSION SITES AND STUFF, MINES AND STUFF LIKE THAT.

IT SOUNDS LIKE IT SHOULD BE MORE IN INDUSTRIAL AREAS INSTEAD OF RESIDENTIAL AREAS WHERE WE LIVE.

THERE'S REALLY NO SAY IN THE ORDINANCE AS FAR AS WHAT CONSISTS OF A LARGE SOLAR FARM.

IS IT ONE ACRE, TEN ACRES, 100 ACRES? SO PART OF THE SETBACKS, THEY TALK ABOUT 500.

YOU'RE LOOKING AT 1500 FEET.

I THINK IT SHOULD SAY A MINIMUM OF.

BECAUSE IF YOU HAVE A SMALL, LARGE FARM, TEN ACRES VERSUS 3000, I THINK THAT WE HAVE TO TAKE THAT INTO CONSIDERATION, BECAUSE A SMALLER FARM COULD PROBABLY BE CLOSER TO RESIDENTIAL AREAS VERSUS A HUGE FARM BATTERY STORAGE UNITS, BEST FACILITIES, BECAUSE IF THERE IS A FIRE, I.E.

SAN DIEGO, WHERE THEY HAVE THE FIRE, IT TOOK THEM FIVE DAYS TO PUT IT OUT.

THEY DID A SHELTER IN PLACE FOR A MILE.

I THINK BEST FACILITIES THAT COULD CONCEIVABLY BE 20 ACRES OR MORE FOR SOMETHING AS LARGE AS 3000.

WE SHOULD CONSIDER A MILE BEST FACILITIES FROM RESIDENTS.

THANK YOU. I APPRECIATE YOUR COMMENTS, JAY.

RUBY. INDICATES THAT HE'S NEUTRAL BUT PROACTIVE.

NEUTRAL AND PROACTIVE.

MY NAME IS JAY RUBY.

I'M RUNNING TO BE YOUR NEXT STATE REPRESENTATIVE, AND I WANTED TO REALLY THANK THE COUNTY, AND ESPECIALLY MATT, FOR THE WORK THAT WAS PUT INTO THE PRESENTATION.

THAT WAS QUITE THOROUGH AND THERE WAS A LOT THERE.

I THINK WE NEED TO LOOK AT THE ISSUE OF SOLAR DEVELOPMENT AS INEVITABLE AND BE PROACTIVE.

BECAUSE OF OUR ALTITUDE AND WEATHER, YAVAPAI COUNTY IS WELL POSITIONED TO BE A STRONG CONTRIBUTOR TO THE SOLAR THE ECONOMY.

AND WHILE WE NEED GUIDELINES FOR THE INDUSTRY THAT PROTECT OUR VIEWSHEDS WATER AND COMMUNITIES, WE NEED TO RECOGNIZE THAT THE CAPACITY OF THE SOLAR INDUSTRY TO GENERATE

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I SEE THE GOOD WORK ON THE ORDINANCES, AND THEY SEEM TO REALLY BE PRIMARILY PROTECTIVE AND REGULATION DRIVEN.

REGARDING SETBACKS, ACREAGE CAPS.

BUT WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE IS THE COUNTY BECOME PROACTIVE WITH SOMETHING THAT COULD BE CALLED SOLAR ENCOURAGEMENT ZONES, THAT DESIGNATE DESIRED AREAS FOR SOLAR GROWTH, THAT CAN STREAMLINE THE APPLICATION PROCESS, INCENTIVIZE DEVELOPMENT, AND GUARANTEE BENEFITS FOR THE COUNTY AND ITS CITIZENS.

THIS MAY BE SIMILAR TO WHAT WAS REFERENCED AS THE PREFERRED SITES, AND I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S A SPECIFIC POLICY AROUND THAT.

INSTEAD OF ALLOWING THE INDUSTRY TO CHOOSE WHERE SOLAR FARMS ARE INSTALLED, WE CAN STEER THE PROCESS TO STRATEGIC AREAS THAT WOULD HAVE MINIMAL IMPACT ON WATERSHEDS, WILDLIFE CORRIDORS OR SCENIC CONSIDERATIONS BECAUSE EACH PROJECT WILL BE DIFFERENT.

SOLAR ENCOURAGEMENT ZONES WOULD ALLOW US TO RESEARCH THESE ZONES IN ADVANCE AND OFFER A BUY WRITE PROCESS INTO THE ZONES SO WE CAN BETTER CONTROL THE PROCESS AND BETTER REAP THE BENEFITS AND ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT THAT THE SOLAR INDUSTRY HAS TO OFFER.

WE SHOULD NOURISH SMART SOLAR GROWTH IN THIS COUNTY THAT HELPS OUR SCHOOLS AND CITIZENS WITH MORE SECURE, MORE SOVEREIGN AND CHEAPER ACCESS TO ELECTRICITY. SOLAR IS COMING.

LET'S ENCOURAGE IT.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

MR. TIM SMITH.

MY NAME IS TIM SMITH.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.

I'LL MAKE THIS QUICK BECAUSE IT HAS SOME REDUNDANCIES IN IT.

UTILITY SCALE SOLAR FACILITIES DO NOT BELONG IN CLOSE PROXIMITY TO DEVELOPED RURAL NEIGHBORHOODS, THEY MAY HAVE A PLACE.

HOWEVER, IT IS MANY MILES, NOT MERE FEET AWAY FROM EXISTING DEVELOPED RURAL NEIGHBORHOODS.

IN CLOSING, GIVEN THE LACK OF WIDESPREAD PUBLIC KNOWLEDGE OF THE PROPOSED CHANGE, I WOULD ASK THAT FOR THE VOTE TO BE TABLED UNTIL THE NEW BOARD MEMBERS ARE SEATED AND TO ALLOW FOR FURTHER INPUT FROM CITIZENS OF YAVAPAI COUNTY.

AT THE VERY LEAST, THAT THE SETBACK FROM EXISTING RURAL NEIGHBORHOODS BE CHANGED TO FIVE MILES AND LET THE UTILITY SCALE SOLAR FARMS BE BUILT WHERE THEY HAVE NO DETRIMENTAL EFFECT ON EXISTING HOMES.

IF HOMES ARE BUILT IN CLOSE PROXIMITY TO UTILITY SCALE SOLAR FACILITIES, THEN BUYERS WOULD HAVE A CHOICE.

DECISIONS THAT YOU, THE BOARD MEMBERS, MAKE CAN AND WILL HAVE A LONG LASTING EFFECT FOR DECADES TO COME.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MR. KEN. KEN.

JOHN CHANG C H A N.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

BOARD. MY NAME IS KEN CHAN.

I LIVE IN MINGUS MEADOWS.

I WANT TO COME BRING BRING US BACK TO A COUPLE OF THINGS THAT HAVE HAPPENED TODAY.

WE'VE GOTTEN A GREAT PRESENTATION FROM MATT ABOUT THE PREVIOUS DISCUSSIONS THAT HAVE TAKEN PLACE OVER THE LAST FEW MONTHS.

I WANT TO ILLUSTRATE AND ACTUALLY HIGHLIGHT A COUPLE OF THINGS THAT HAVE COME UP REPEATEDLY, SEVERAL WORDS THAT BOTHER ME, INDUSTRY STANDARD, INDUSTRY RECOMMENDATIONS.

HOW MANY TIMES DID WE HEAR THOSE WORDS TODAY? YES, WE CAN ALWAYS SIT THERE AND SAY INDUSTRY IS IMPORTANT.

THEY KNOW WHAT THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT, EXCEPT THAT THERE'S A COUPLE PROBLEMS WITH THAT.

ARE THEY TRULY HONEST WITH US? HAVE THEY REALLY GIVEN US THE RIGHT INFORMATION THAT WE REALLY NEED TO HAVE? LET'S THINK ABOUT THIS A LITTLE BIT.

WE HEARD A COUPLE MORE WORDS THAT WERE SAID JUST A FEW MINUTES AGO.

RELIABILITY AND ECONOMIC DECISIONS.

OKAY, IF THAT'S THE INDUSTRY'S FOCUS ON RELIABILITY AND ECONOMIC DECISIONS, HOW ABOUT THE PEOPLE? HOW ABOUT THE ENVIRONMENT? HOW ABOUT THE WILDLIFE? I WANT TO TAKE YOU BACK A FEW YEARS.

WE'RE GOING TO LOOK AT THREE THINGS.

BIG PHARMA.

HOW MUCH INFORMATION DID WE GET FROM BIG PHARMA THAT WASN'T REAL? HOW MUCH DID WE DISCOVER LATER ON THAT THEY WERE LYING? HOW ABOUT THE TOBACCO INDUSTRY USED TO BE HEALTHY TO SMOKE, RIGHT? NEVER CAUSED CANCER.

LAST ONE.

MONSANTO, 8.8 TO $10.5 BILLION IN CANCER CLAIMS. HOW MANY YEARS DID THEY TELL US THAT IT WAS SAFE? I'M A LITTLE CONCERNED.

I THINK THIS ORDINANCE IS IMPORTANT.

HOWEVER, THE ORDINANCE NEEDS TO BE REVISITED.

THERE'S A LOT OF INFORMATION ABOUT SETBACKS.

THERE'S A LOT OF INFORMATION ABOUT THE ENVIRONMENT THAT WE HAVEN'T ADDRESSED.

AND WE NEED TO. BECAUSE ONCE THE HORSE IS OUT OF THE BARN, IT'S GONE.

WE'RE NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO BACK UP.

WE CAN SIT THERE AND SAY 500FT AND REALIZE YEARS LATER IT SHOULD BE FIVE MILES.

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THE FARM'S THERE. THANK YOU AND THANK YOU.

LAURA TOWN.

THAT'S GREAT.

YEAH. MY NAME IS LAURA CHAN.

I LIVE IN PRESCOTT VALLEY, AND I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU.

AND I'M GOING TO SHORTEN THIS, SO IF I'M UNCLEAR, YOU MIGHT NEED TO ASK.

BUT I BELIEVE IN AN ORDINANCE.

I AM NOT ANTI SOLAR, BUT I HAVE SERIOUS CONCERNS PREDOMINANTLY OVER THE PLACEMENT OF SOLAR FARMS AND BUSSES.

AND I'D LIKE TO TELL YOU WHY I DID A REVIEW OVER THE LAST FOUR YEARS OF DETAILED ANALYSIS OF 21 BEST FIRES TO INCLUDE THOSE THAT IMPACTED SOLAR FACILITIES, AND I WAS A LITTLE CONCERNED BECAUSE A 500 FOOT SETBACK WASN'T GOING TO BE HELPFUL IF I HAVE A SOLAR FARM FIRE, A SOLAR.

WE ARE IN A DRY, ARID ENVIRONMENT.

IT COMES THROUGH.

THERE IS A AN ADVANCED SOLAR FARM IN EUROPE.

YOU KNOW WHAT HAPPENED TO IT? THE PANELS BURNT LEAD AND CADMIUM, MELTED SOLAR PANELS.

AND YOU KNOW WHAT? THAT PLUME THEN RAINED DOWN OVER SEVERAL MILES, MILLIONS OF DOLLARS OF DAMAGE THAT HAD TO BE REDONE.

THEY HAD TO CLEAN, YOU KNOW, CLEAN UP THAT AREA, YOU KNOW, MR. BLAKE STATED THAT WE DON'T KNOW WHAT THE FUTURE HOLDS.

WE DON'T I DON'T LIKE THAT IF BECAUSE, OH, WE'RE GETTING SAFER.

WELL, I'M SORRY, WE HAVE 21 INCIDENTS IN THE UNITED STATES ALONE, MANY REQUIRING WATER.

WELL, IN YAVAPAI COUNTY, WHAT DO YOU DO IF IT'S PLACED NEAR A RESIDENCE? TOXIC FUMES ARE GOING.

LET'S SEE. I CAN'T PUT WATER BECAUSE IF I PUT WATER ON A BUS, I CONTAMINATE THE GROUND.

I CAN'T LET IT BURN BECAUSE I'M CLOSE TO THE RESIDENCES AND I'M CAUSING ISSUES, PARTICULARLY IN OUR WINDY ENVIRONMENT.

SO I AM PRO ORDINANCE.

I BELIEVE WE NEED FURTHER REVIEW OF WHAT THAT APPROPRIATE SETBACK IS IF IT IS NEAR A RESIDENTIAL AREA.

MY RECOMMENDATION, BASED ON THE REVIEWS OF EVACUATION ZONES AND FIRES, WOULD BE TWO MILES.

YEAH, YOU GUYS ARE BEING JUST TERRIFIC.

I APPRECIATE IT JULIE, FOR NOT.

TRULY HERE. THERE SHE IS.

HELLO, I'M JULIE FRENETTE FROM YAVAPAI COUNTY.

I KNOW WE'RE NOT SUPPOSED TO BE REDUNDANT, BUT I DO WANT TO THANK THE BOARD AND THANK MATT FOR ALL THE HARD WORK AND YOUR STAFF THAT HAVE GONE INTO THIS, BECAUSE WE CAN'T JUST STICK OUR HEADS IN THE SAND AND PRETEND THAT THIS DOESN'T HAPPEN, THAT WE'RE NOT GOING TO HAVE SOLAR AND WE DON'T HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT IT.

SO WE WE DO NEED TO, TO DO THIS.

I DO WANT TO SAY THAT IT'S A LITTLE BIT HARD TO SAY YES OR NO ON THE ORDINANCE.

I THINK A LOT OF PEOPLE IN THIS ROOM MIGHT BE OKAY WITH SOLAR, BUT THEY'RE AGAINST A PARTICULAR PROJECT, SPECIFICALLY THE CHINO PROJECT WHICH HAS THEM HERE TODAY.

I'M VERY PRO SOLAR, BUT I'M ALSO PRO ORDINANCE.

I THINK THAT, YOU KNOW, SOLAR HAS TO BE DONE RESPONSIBLY.

I AGREE WITH THE PEOPLE THAT THINK THE SETBACKS SHOULD BE PROBABLY MUCH FURTHER THAN WHAT YOU'RE PROPOSING RIGHT NOW.

NOBODY WANTS TO BUY THEIR HOME WITH A BEAUTIFUL VIEW OF THE MOUNTAINS, AND THEN WAKE UP ONE DAY AND HAVE NOTHING BUT A GLASS LAKE IN FRONT OF THEM.

SO, I MEAN, WE CAN WE CAN PROMOTE SOLAR AND PROTECT RESIDENTS AT THE SAME TIME.

AND I BELIEVE THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE TRYING TO DO.

SO I AM VERY APPRECIATIVE OF THAT.

ONE OF THE THINGS THAT HAS NOT BEEN BROUGHT UP IS THE THERE ARE SOME PEOPLE HERE THAT JUST ARE VERY ANTI SOLAR, YOU KNOW, TOO MANY PROBLEMS WITH RADIATION WAS BROUGHT UP BY SOMEBODY. BUT MY QUESTION TO THEM IS WHAT OTHER SOURCES OF POWER ARE YOU LOOKING AT TO REPLACE THAT.

BECAUSE WE DO HAVE ENERGY NEEDS.

I FOR ONE, DO NOT WANT TO WAKE UP AT 105 DEGREE DAY AND NOT BE ABLE TO USE MY AIR CONDITIONER BECAUSE OF A BROWNOUT OR A BLACKOUT.

MOST OF OUR CURRENT ENERGY COMES FROM OUT OF COUNTY AND SOME OUT OF STATE, AND IF THERE IS A SHORTAGE OF ENERGY, WE'RE GOING TO BE LAST ON THE LIST.

YOU KNOW, IT'S A LITTLE LIKE GETTING YOUR CELL PHONE COMPANY FROM A CHEAP CELL PHONE.

IT'S GREAT UNTIL YOU REALLY NEED IT.

AND THEN THE PRIORITY GOES TO THE PEOPLE THAT GO TO THE BIG COMPANIES.

SO I THINK WE NEED TO PROTECT OUR ENERGY SOURCES AND PROVIDE MORE.

WE DON'T HAVE HYDROELECTRIC HERE.

NONE OF US WANT A NUCLEAR POWER PLANT IN OUR BACKYARD.

COAL IS WAY WORSE FOR THE ENVIRONMENT THAN ANYTHING THAT'S PROPOSED WITH THE SOLAR.

SO I JUST THINK WE ALL NEED TO CONSIDER THAT.

BUT THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR ALL THE HARD WORK THAT YOU'RE DOING, I APPRECIATE IT.

THANK YOU. JULIE.

WE HAVE A MICHAEL CRAMER OR CRAVENS.

SORRY, I CAN'T READ THAT.

HELLO, MICHAEL. HELLO.

PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME FOR US.

MICHAEL CRAVENS, AND I'M HERE REPRESENTING THE ARIZONA WILDLIFE FEDERATION.

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JUST A REAL BRIEF INTRO.

ARIZONA WILDLIFE FEDERATION.

WE HAVE BEEN DOING WILDLIFE CONSERVATION IN ARIZONA FOR OVER 100 YEARS NOW.

TECHNICALLY 101 YEARS, BUT STILL, THAT'S OVER.

AND WE LIVE IN A AN IMPORTANT BUT SOMETIMES UNCOMFORTABLE PLACE OF ADVOCATING BETWEEN HUNTERS AND ANGLERS AND YOUR GENERAL OUTDOOR RECREATIONISTS.

AGAIN, THIS IS AN IMPORTANT PLACE AND IT'S IT'S SOMEWHAT REFLECTS OUR POSITION HERE.

WE ARE CERTAINLY PRO MOVING FORWARD WITH SOLAR AS A SCIENCE BASED ORGANIZATION.

WE EMBRACE THE FACT THAT AS A NATION, WE NEED TO MOVE FROM FOSSIL FUELS TO RENEWABLES.

WITH THAT SAID, IT HAS BEEN STATED THAT ONE OF THE BEST THINGS THAT WE CAN DO FOR WILDLIFE IN A CHANGING CLIMATE IS ALLOW ROOM TO MIGRATE AND ADAPT. SO THERE ARE HIGH STAKES ON BOTH SIDES OF THIS.

IF WE IF WE MOVE FORWARD WITH CLEAN ENERGY, BUT DO IT TO THE DETRIMENT OF OUR WILDLIFE, OUR PUBLIC LANDS AND OUR OUTDOOR RECREATION, WE MIGHT END UP ON THE LOSING SIDE OF THIS.

SO I WANT TO ENCOURAGE YOU TO MOVE FORWARD.

WE ARE SIGNED IN AS PRO, BUT CONTINUE TO DO SO CAUTIOUSLY.

AND WITH THAT, I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR YOUR CAUTIOUS AND THOUGHTFUL APPROACH TO ALL OF THIS.

SO THAT'S ALL I'VE GOT FOR YOU.

THANK YOU. WE APPRECIATE THAT.

THANK YOU. SILVER STAPLETON.

I'M COMING BACK TO THOSE WHO WEREN'T HERE BUT WERE COMING BACK TO JOIN US.

THANK YOU. MADAM CHAIR.

BOARD. THANK YOU FOR HEARING US.

I WAS GOING TO ASK YOU TO WAIT JUST A SECOND TO GET THAT STARTED.

I DON'T EVEN KNOW WHERE TO START.

I CUT IT FROM SIX MINUTES THIS MORNING.

AN HOUR OR TWO. TWO SALIENT POINTS.

ENVIRONMENTAL AND RECREATIONAL IMPACT, WHICH IS PAGE 18 OF THE CURRENT ORDINANCE.

WHO DEFINES AND WHO DETERMINES THE LEVEL OF ENVIRONMENTAL AND RECREATIONAL IMPACT OF PARAMOUNT CONCERN IS NOT THE POSSIBILITY, BUT THE PROBABILITY OF CONTAMINATION OF OUR UNDERGROUND WATER CAUSED BY SOLAR FARMS. YOU HAVE YOU HAVE HEARD HOW PREVALENT AND DEVASTATING LITHIUM BATTERY FIRES ARE.

THEY'RE DIFFICULT TO EXTINGUISH AND ARE SOMETIMES ALLOWED TO JUST BURN OUT.

THAT WILL END UP IN OUR UNDERGROUND WATER.

FURTHERMORE, SOLAR FARMS CAUSE CONTAMINATION OF UNDERGROUND WATER BY DEPLETING THE AREA OF ALL VEGETATION WITH PRE-EMERGENCE AND CHEMICAL SPRAYS, AND HAVE BEEN PROVEN THAT HAVE BEEN PROVEN TO CAUSE CANCER.

KEEPING THE GROUND FREE OF WEEDS UNDER AND AROUND SOLAR FARMS IS CONSISTENT AND ONGOING.

WILL FIRE INSURANCE GO UP WHEN HOMES ARE CLOSE IN CLOSE PROXIMITY TO SOLAR FARMS? WILL HOMEOWNERS BE DENIED FIRE INSURANCE ALTOGETHER? OVER TIME, POLLUTED SOIL IS WASHED INTO NEARBY WATER SOURCES AND WELLS.

IN THIS WAY, LITHIUM, LEAD AND CADMIUM SPILLED FROM SOLAR FARMS CAN CONTAMINATE NOT JUST THE GROUND, BUT ALSO CONTAMINATE OUR NATURAL RESOURCE DRINKING WATER.

SECONDARILY, I'D LIKE TO DISCUSS THE RECREATIONAL ASPECT OF LAND THAT WOULD BE UTILIZED BY BUILDING SOLAR FARMS. I'LL USE MYSELF AS AN EXAMPLE.

I LIVED IN ARIZONA 50 YEARS AGO AND SAID THAT SOMEDAY I WOULD RETIRE HERE.

I WORKED ALL THOSE.

DO. YOU MAY FINISH YOUR SENTENCE.

I WORKED ALL OF THOSE YEARS TO RETIRE HERE.

AND I PURCHASED A HOME ADJACENT TO OPEN PRAIRIE.

PRIVATE LAND.

STATE AND FEDERAL, SO I COULD SPEND MY RETIREMENT ENJOYING RIDING MY HORSE IN PRESCOTT VALLEY AND THE SURROUNDING AREAS.

THE LAND IS REGULARLY AND ROUTINELY USED BY EQUESTRIANS, BIKERS, AND OFF ROAD VEHICLES, AND THOUSANDS OF ACRES OF CONTIGUOUS SOLAR FARMS WILL HAVE A DEVASTATING IMPACT ON RECREATION OF MANY KINDS.

THANK YOU. HAS MISS POTTER BEEN ABLE TO JOIN US ON TEAMS? ARE WE UP AND RUNNING FOR.

ARIZONA GAME AND FISH WHO WISHED TO JOIN US? I'M NOT SEEING THAT.

CAN ANYBODY. CAN YOU HEAR ME? YES I CAN.

WELCOME, MISS POTTER.

THANK YOU. VICE CHAIR AND MEMBERS OF THE BOARD.

MY NAME IS JESSICA POTTER, AND I AM THE ENERGY LEAD FOR THE PROJECT EVALUATION PROGRAM AT ARIZONA GAME AND FISH DEPARTMENT.

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AT THE TIME, WE HAVE NO FURTHER COMMENTS ON THE ORDINANCE.

WE PROVIDED SEVERAL LETTERS THROUGHOUT THE PROCESS AND JUST WANT TO SAY THAT WE REALLY APPRECIATE THE CONTINUED COORDINATION AND CONSIDERATION FOR WILDLIFE AND WILDLIFE MOVEMENT WITHIN THE ORDINANCE.

REALLY APPRECIATE THAT.

THANK YOU SO MUCH.

BEFORE I TURN THIS OVER TO OUR RETURNING CHAIR, I WOULD LIKE TO SAY IT'S BEEN A PRIVILEGE TO GET THROUGH THESE AND THANK YOU ALL THOSE WHO DID OFFER PUBLIC COMMENT AND WORKING TOGETHER TO MAKE SURE THAT EVERY VOICE COULD BE HEARD.

THAT'S SO IMPORTANT AS WE CONTINUE IN THIS EVOLUTIONARY PROCESS.

SO THANKS FOR HANGING IN THERE.

AND ALLOWING US TO TIME YOU DOWN TO TWO MINUTES.

I HOPE YOU FEEL LIKE YOUR VOICE WAS HEARD, BECAUSE WE WERE CERTAINLY LISTENING.

MR. CHAIRMAN, I TURN THIS BACK OVER TO YOU.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MISS MICHAELS.

ONE MOMENT. I WASN'T ALLOWED TO SPEAK.

I PUT IN A SHEET.

MY NAME WAS NEVER CALLED.

AND YOUR NAME IS SIR.

SORRY THAT WE DON'T HAVE IT HERE, BUT WE'LL.

CERTAINLY. WELL, MR. HUTT, IF. GO AHEAD AND SPEAK AND PUT IN A GREEN SHEET AND HAND IT TO THE CLERK WHEN YOU'RE DONE, IF YOU DON'T MIND.

THANK YOU. MY NAME IS RICHARD HUCK.

THE ONLY PART THAT I WANT TO ADD TO WHAT EVERYONE ELSE HAS ALREADY SAID IS THE TOTALITY OF THIS.

YOU'VE GOT 8000MI² OF AREA.

WHY ARE WE TRYING TO SHOEHORN PROJECTS 500FT FROM RESIDENTIAL AREAS? IT SEEMS TO ME THERE'S PLENTY OF ROOM ELSEWHERE TO MOVE.

THIS IS MILES, THE CORRECT DISTANCE FROM RESIDENTIAL AREAS.

I DON'T KNOW, YOU GUYS CAN FIGURE THAT OUT, BUT WHEN YOU HAVE A COUNTY THAT'S LARGER THAN FOUR INDIVIDUAL STATES IN THE COUNTRY, CAN'T WE FIND ROOM AND NOT HAVE THESE NEXT TWO RESIDENTIAL AREAS? BUT OTHER THAN THAT, DITTO TO EVERYONE ELSE THAT SPOKE.

THANK YOU. THANK.

OKAY, SO YOU'VE GONE THROUGH ALL THE GREEN SHEETS, RIGHT? OKAY, WE'RE FINISHED WITH THE GREEN SHEETS.

BE SURE THAT YOU DO FILL OUT ANOTHER ONE IN CASE WE'VE SOMEHOW MADE IT DISAPPEAR.

THANK YOU. GIVE ME ONE SECOND.

OKAY. WHAT'S THE BOARDS? I CAN MAKE A MOTION, OR WE CAN GO AHEAD AND DECIDE TO MOVE THIS FORWARD FOR ANOTHER MEETING AT ANOTHER TIME.

OPEN TO THE PUBLIC FOR ADDITIONAL COMMENT IF NECESSARY.

AND TWO HOUR SPECIAL MEETING.

I THINK WE COULD PROBABLY KNOCK THIS OUT.

WHAT DO YOU THINK, CHAIRMAN? WE DID. WE DID HEAR A LOT OF COMMENT ABOUT MAYBE LOOKING MORE INTO AND REVIEWING THE ORDINANCE AND NOT MAKING A DECISION. THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT I'M SAYING.

YEAH, I CONCUR WITH THAT.

ANYWAY, WHAT WE'LL DO IS WE'RE GOING TO TABLE ITEM NUMBER SEVEN ON THE HEARING AGENDA, AND WE'RE GOING TO SET UP A DATE HERE IN THE FUTURE, WE WILL POST IT ON OUR WEBSITES SO THAT YOU CAN BE AWARE OF IT IF YOU'D LIKE TO COME.

GREAT. AND IF YOU GOT ANY ADDITIONAL THOUGHTS AT THAT TIME WE'LL LISTEN TO THOSE.

BUT THIS WAY WE CAN GET BACK.

THINK ABOUT WHAT THINGS THAT YOU HAVE SAID AND THAT WE'VE HEARD HERE TODAY, AND MAKE SOME ADJUSTMENTS TO THIS.

YOU'VE ALREADY HEARD 3 OR 4 DIFFERENT THINGS THAT WE'VE SUGGESTED TO MATT TO LOOK INTO.

SO WITH THAT, WE'LL COME BACK AND BE LOOKING AT A DIFFERENT DOCUMENT HERE IN A WEEK OR SO, BUT IT'S GOING TO BE SOON.

THIS IS NOT GOING TO TAKE WE'RE NOT GOING INTO OCTOBER.

WE'RE GOING TO TRY AND GET THIS KNOCKED OUT THIS MONTH.

IT'S VERY IMPORTANT THAT WE DO.

MR. CHAIRMAN, DO YOU WANT TO TAKE SOME FINAL COMMENTS FROM THE BOARD.

GO AHEAD. THANK YOU.

A COUPLE OF THINGS I'D LIKE TO TALK ABOUT VERY QUICKLY IS, YOU KNOW, WE TALK ABOUT THE NEED FOR SOLAR, WHETHER WE NEED IT, YOU KNOW, IN OUR LOCAL AREA, IN OUR COUNTY. YOU KNOW, SPEAKING TO THE REGIONAL UTILITY PROVIDER THEY HAVE AMPLE GENERATION RIGHT NOW TO PROVIDE ALL OF THE REQUIREMENTS FOR BY COUNTY.

SO ONE OF THE CONCERNS I HAVE IS IF WE'RE GOING TO PUT IN LARGE SOLAR FACILITIES, WHERE IS THAT POWER GOING TO GO? IT'S NOT GOING TO BE USED BY US.

IT'S GOING TO BE USED PROBABLY MAYBE IN THE STATE.

MORE THAN LIKELY OUTSIDE THE STATE.

SO I THINK THERE'S A VERY STRONG CONCERN FROM THE PEOPLE THAT I'VE TALKED TO, MAYBE THE CONSTITUENTS I HAVE THAT SAY, YOU KNOW, IF YOU'RE GOING TO PRODUCE IT AND IT'S GOING TO BE

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LET'S FIGURE OUT WHERE WE'RE GOING TO PUT IT AND HOW BIG THE FACILITY NEEDS TO BE, OR MAYBE A NUMBER OF LUMBER FACILITIES.

I THINK THE CONCERN ABOUT WILDLIFE IS VERY IMPORTANT.

I GREW UP HERE, SO, YOU KNOW, IT WAS INTERESTING BACK IN THE 50S.

LONESOME VALLEY, IF ANYBODY KNOWS WHERE THAT IS.

BASICALLY GOES FROM DEWEY ALL THE WAY UP TO PAULDEN.

THAT'S LONESOME VALLEY.

IT WAS CONSIDERED BACK AT THAT TIME TO BE THE PREMIER PRONGHORN HABITAT IN ARIZONA.

AND MANY SAID IT WAS THE PREMIER PRONGHORN HABITAT IN THE SOUTHWEST.

NOW YOU CAN SEE WHAT'S HAPPENED.

I MEAN, WE HAVE AREAS RIGHT NOW AROUND CHINO VALLEY WHERE BASICALLY WE GROW FROM PRESCOTT AND PV ALL THE WAY UP ALMOST TO CHINO.

THE AMOUNT OF LONESOME VALLEY THAT'S STILL AVAILABLE OUT THERE FOR PRONGHORN HABITAT IS BEING DIMINISHED DAILY, AND SOME OF THESE LARGE FACILITIES WOULD REALLY CAUSE THAT TO EXACERBATE BE EXACERBATED.

SO I THINK IT'S VERY IMPORTANT THAT WE REALLY REALIZE THE IMPACT THAT WE'RE HAVING, NOT ONLY IN THAT AREA.

I MEAN, THERE'S OTHER AREAS IN THE IN THIS COUNTY THAT ARE VERY GOOD PRONGHORN HABITAT THAT WE DON'T WANT TO SEE AFFECTED EITHER.

SO, YOU KNOW, WE TALK ABOUT 3000 ACRES AS BEING, YOU KNOW, THE MAXIMUM FACILITY SIZE.

I'VE TALKED TO MANY OF THE PEOPLE THAT ARE VERY CONCERNED ABOUT THAT, THAT NUMBER, YOU KNOW, 3000, 5000, WHATEVER.

AND SOME PEOPLE SAY, WHY DON'T WE JUST MAKE IT A SECTION? 640 ACRES COULD BE THE MAXIMUM SIZE OF ANY FACILITY IN THE COUNTY.

IT WOULD BE MORE THAN ENOUGH TO PROBABLY PROVIDE POWER FOR ANY OF OUR COMMUNITIES IF THEY DECIDED TO USE SOLAR TO PROVIDE THEIR POWER.

I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING WE SHOULD TAKE A LOOK AT.

MAYBE WE COULD EVEN LOOK AT THE MAXIMUM NUMBER OF SOLAR FACILITIES.

I'VE HAD PEOPLE SAY, WHY DON'T WE JUST HAVE TEN? WHY DO WE NEED 20 OR 30 OR 40 OR 50? IF YOU HAVE YOU KNOW, 640 ACRES SECTION AS ONE FACILITY TIMES TEN, YOU'RE AT 6400 ACRES.

SO YOU'RE GETTING VERY CLOSE TO THE 10,000.

SO I THINK WE NEED TO MAYBE LOOK AT THE THREE AND DECIDE IF THAT'S A GOOD NUMBER.

MAYBE IT SHOULD BE SOMETHING SMALLER.

YOU KNOW, I CAN UNDERSTAND WHY PEOPLE ARE LOOKING AT THE 3000, BECAUSE THAT'S PROBABLY WHERE IT STARTS TO BECOME ECONOMICAL FOR THE INDUSTRY TO BE ABLE TO PRODUCE POWER.

THAT'S PROBABLY THE REASON WHY THEY WANT THAT TO BE THE MINIMUM NUMBER.

THE OTHER THING I'VE HEARD PEOPLE SAY IS, OKAY, IF WE'RE GOING TO DO 640 ACRES HERE, A SECTION, THEN WHEN ARE YOU GOING TO ALLOW THE OTHER ONE TO BE? IS IT GOING TO BE RIGHT NEXT DOOR? IS IT GOING TO BE CONTIGUOUS, OR IS IT GOING TO BE A REQUIREMENT FOR THOSE TO BE SEPARATED BY SOME DISTANCE? AND YOU KNOW, I'VE HEARD AT LEAST A MILE BECAUSE IF YOU HAVE SMALL FACILITIES AND YOU HAVE DISTANCES BETWEEN THEM, YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE LESS IMPACT ON THE WILDLIFE HABITAT AND THE CORRIDORS AND THE MIGRATION ROUTES.

SO, YOU KNOW, I JUST WANT TO KIND OF THROW THAT OUT THERE FOR PEOPLE TO CONSIDER.

THE LAST THING I'LL PROBABLY TALK ABOUT IS IN MY DISCUSSIONS WITH THE REGIONAL UTILITY PROVIDER THESE PANELS ARE EXTREMELY TOXIC. THEY TELL ME THAT THEY'RE SO TOXIC THAT THEY ENCASED IN CONCRETE BEFORE THEY GO TO A LANDFILL.

SO I THINK IT'S VERY IMPORTANT FOR US TO REALIZE THAT WE'RE DEALING WITH A VERY HAZARDOUS ITEM, AND WE NEED TO FIGURE OUT IF WE'RE GOING TO DISPOSE OF THIS SOMETIME IN THE FUTURE.

WHAT ARE WHAT ARE WE REALLY GOING TO DO WITH, YOU KNOW, TEN, 20, 30,000 ACRES OF PANELS? AND, YOU KNOW, WE JUST HAD A SITUATION DOWN IN TEXAS WHERE A LARGE SOLAR FACILITY HAD GOLF BALL SIZE HAIL HIT THE FACILITY, AND I GUESS IT TOOK OUT JUST ABOUT EVERY PANEL.

SO I CAN SEE WHERE THAT WOULD BE A TREMENDOUS EXPENSE.

YOU'D HAVE TO REPLACE ALL THOSE.

AND THERE IS NO TECHNOLOGY RIGHT NOW, REALLY TO TAKE CARE OF THESE PANELS AND MAKE USE OF THEM.

SO MAYBE IN THE FUTURE THERE IS.

BUT RIGHT NOW, I THINK WE'VE GOT A VERY DANGEROUS SITUATION WITH THESE THINGS WHEN IT COMES TIME TO DISPOSE OF THEM.

AND THAT NEEDS TO BE LOOKED AT VERY CLOSELY.

AND I HOPE WE'RE LOOKING AT THAT, YOU KNOW, IN OUR ORDINANCE.

THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.

ANY OTHER STATEMENTS? MR. CHAIRMAN, I. I HAVE A COMMENT, MR. CHAIRMAN, IF I MAY, BEFORE WE EVEN GET TO THE VERY, I THINK, COGENT QUESTIONS THAT SUPERVISOR OBERG IS A PROPOSING AND THE VERY REAL OPPORTUNITY THAT I KEEP HEARING ABOUT SOLAR BECAUSE THAT'S REAL TOO.

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I LIVE ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE MOUNTAIN.

I'M DEALING WITH AN ISSUE OF A SLAG PILE THAT WERE UPCYCLING, AND THERE'S A GREAT DEAL OF CONCERN ABOUT WHAT THE PUBLIC HEALTH IMPACTS ARE.

AND UNTIL I KNOW HOW WE'RE GOING TO PREVENT EXACTLY WHAT SUPERVISOR OBERG WAS TALKING ABOUT.

AND SO MANY OF YOU, I WANT US TO BE LOOKING AT WHAT HAVE BEEN THE RECENT EVENTS WITH SOLAR FARMS AND HOW HAVE THEY BEEN MITIGATED, AND WHAT ARE THE COSTS BEEN.

AND THAT CAN HELP US UNDERSTAND WHAT REALLY ARE THE REAL FUNDAMENTAL ISSUES THAT WE'RE GOING TO WANT THAT TO HAVE A HANDLE ON BEFORE WE CONSIDER WHETHER IT'S 100 ACRES OR 3000 ACRES, OR WHETHER WE EVEN WANT IT IN THIS STATE AT ALL.

SO I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S POSSIBLE, MR. CHAIRMAN, FOR OUR LITTLE BRILLIANT MATT AND HIS TEAM TO TO TO TAKE A LOOK AT SOME BEST PRACTICES OR SOME AREAS, TEN OF THEM WHERE THEY'VE EXPERIENCED THESE EVENTS, WHETHER IT'S BEEN HAILSTORMS OR FIRE AND WHAT'S BEEN THE COST AND THE IMPACT TO THE COMMUNITY AND THE PEOPLE, BECAUSE WE KNOW WHAT IT TAKES TO MITIGATE, FOR EXAMPLE, IN MINING AND IT'S DECADES IN SOME CASES, IN OTHER CASES, YOU NEVER REPAIR IT.

SO LET'S KNOW UP FRONT WHAT THAT RETURN ON WHATEVER THAT INVESTMENT IS GOING TO BE BEFORE WE HAVE A CONVERSATION ABOUT HOW BIG IT'S GOING TO BE.

AND I THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

THAT'S REALLY MY FUNDAMENTAL QUESTION.

ALL RIGHT. ONE THING WE'RE ALL GOING TO KEEP IN MIND IS, IS WE'RE GOING TO TRY AND MAKE THIS WHERE WE PROTECT OUR COUNTY.

THAT'S THE NUMBER ONE THING TO DO AND THE RESIDENTS THAT LIVE IN IT.

THIS IS ONE STEP IN THE DIRECTION OF SAYING, WAIT A MINUTE, I'M NOT GOING TO BE YOUR TEST TUBE FOR SOME OTHER LOCATION.

I'M NOT GOING TO HAVE YOU BRING IN SOLAR FIELDS AND WIND MACHINES AND EVERYTHING ELSE AND SEND THAT POWER SOMEWHERE ELSE AND THINK, I'M GOING TO PAY FOR IT, AND I'M GOING TO HAVE TO LOOK AT IT AND MAY HAVE TO BURY IT SOMEDAY.

SO I THINK ONE OF THE THINGS WE HAVE TO KEEP IN MIND IS WHERE WE'RE GOING, WHAT WE WANT.

WHAT DO WE WANT THIS COUNTY TO LOOK LOOK LIKE? AND I THINK WE'VE SAID THAT IN OUR GENERAL PLAN THAT WE WANT THIS TO REMAIN A RURAL TYPE OF ATMOSPHERE.

SO WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO IS WE'LL COME BACK, WE'LL POST.

LIKE I SAID, KEEP AN EYE ON OUR YAVAPAI AZ.GOV.

THAT'S OUR WEBSITE.

IT WILL HAVE THE NEXT MEETING AND IT PROBABLY WILL BE IN WITHIN THE NEXT TWO WEEKS.

SO IF YOU WANT TO ATTEND IT WON'T.

WHY WON'T IT.

I WANT TO GIVE THIS MORE TIME, MR. CHAIRMAN, TO BE ABLE TO DO SOME OF THE WORK THAT WE'RE ASKING THEM TO DO.

WELL, I DON'T SEE THERE'S ONLY A FEW QUESTIONS WE BROUGHT UP.

AND JUST TO MAKE THE DECISIONS OVER TIME AND DISTANCE AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

EXCUSE ME, EXCUSE ME.

CHAIRMAN, MEMBERS OF THE BOARD.

JUST AS A PROCEDURAL MATTER.

OH, IF IT'S A HEARING, THAT'S WHY 30 DAYS, IT'S A HEARING.

AND IF AMENDMENTS ARE PROPOSED, TYPICALLY THOSE HAVE TO BE PUBLISHED IN ADVANCE OF THE HEARING.

SO I'M ASSUMING THERE WOULD BE SOME WORK INVOLVED IN PUTTING TOGETHER A FORM THAT WOULD SATISFY THE CONCERNS THAT WERE RAISED RAISED TODAY.

THEN IT WOULD BE PUBLISHED AND BE BROUGHT BACK TO THE BOARD FOR ANOTHER HEARING.

PRESUMABLY THAT WOULD BE THE WAY I WAS PROPOSING.

ABSOLUTELY. THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR. THAT WAS PERFECT.

BUT HOW FAR OFF DO WE HAVE TO PROPOSE THIS MAT? HOW LONG ARE YOU GOING TO NEED? MAT DOESN'T WANT TO SAY WHAT HIS BEST GUESS IS, BUT PROBABLY IS 6060 DAYS TO GO THROUGH THE FULL PUBLIC NOTICE.

THE ADVERTISING PUBLISHING OF THE AMENDMENTS.

GOOD THINGS ARE WORTH WAITING FOR, PERHAPS.

ABSOLUTELY. SO AFTER WE MAKE THE CHANGES, YOU'RE GOING TO NEED ANOTHER 60 DAYS AFTER THAT FOR POSTING, RIGHT? I MEAN, THAT SOUNDS REALISTIC.

I MEAN, WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO.

WE COME BACK IN TWO WEEKS.

YEAH. AND WE MAKE THE HALF A DOZEN CHANGES THAT WE'VE INDICATED WE'RE INTERESTED IN POSSIBLY MAKING.

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SO WE COME BACK IN TWO WEEKS.

WE DO THAT. YOU NEED 60 DAYS BEYOND THAT PERIOD.

RIGHT. SO IF WE'RE NOT HAVING SORT OF LIKE A PUBLIC HEARING ON THE MATTER WHERE ACTIONS BEING TAKEN, THEN THE TIMETABLE CHANGES THAT THAT PROBABLY SHORTENS THE TIMETABLE.

IF WE'RE JUST HAVING A CONVERSATION WITH INPUT ON WHAT WE'RE THINKING ABOUT CHANGING, IF IT NEEDS TO BE A PUBLIC HEARING, I'LL MAKE IT A PUBLIC HEARING, OKAY.

BUT IT'LL BE OPEN TO THE PUBLIC.

YEAH, THEY'LL BE ABLE TO MAKE COMMENT IF THEY WISH AND WE'LL BE ABLE TO TAKE ACTION.

YEAH. AND ONE THOUGHT THAT COMES TO MIND IS WE ALREADY HAVE SET ON THE AGENDA IS THE UPCOMING JOINT SESSION OF BOTH BODIES.

AND THAT ITEM COULD, COULD POTENTIALLY BE BROUGHT ON THAT AGENDA AND DISCUSSED AT THAT MEETING.

IS THAT WHAT DO YOU THINK MEETING.

WAIT A MINUTE. HE'S TRYING TO PUT US INTO A P AND Z MEETING, JUST CREATES ANOTHER LAYER.

YOU SLIDE DOWN. MR. CHAIR, IF I CAN.

IF I CAN SAY ONE THING.

IF WE GOT TO MAKE A DECISION ON SIX DIFFERENT ITEMS, WHY DON'T WE MAKE THAT DECISION TODAY? IF WE GO THROUGH THOSE SIX ITEMS, MAKE THAT DECISION TODAY.

WHATEVER AMENDMENTS NEED TO TAKE PLACE, THEY CAN WE CAN POST THEM AND DO WHATEVER WE HAVE TO DO.

WE'RE HERE.

LET'S JUST GET IT DONE AND GET IT OVER WITH.

WE'VE BEEN BEATING THIS THING TO DEATH.

FOR HOW LONG? FIVE PUBLIC MEETINGS? YEAH. FIVE PUBLIC MEETINGS.

SO WHY NOT SPEND AN EXTRA AN HOUR OR AN HOUR AND A HALF TO GO THROUGH THESE SIX DIFFERENT ITEMS THAT YOU'RE IDENTIFYING? GET THROUGH IT, AND THEN WHATEVER WE HAVE TO DO AFTER THAT POINT, THEN LET'S DO IT.

I MEAN, WE KNOW WE'RE HERE NOW.

WE PUSH THIS OUT ANOTHER 60 DAYS.

THAT'S I MEAN, YEAH, I'M NOT I'M NOT GOOD WITH THAT EITHER.

SO I'D PREFER IF WE'RE GOING TO JUST HAVE TO STUMBLE THROUGH IT FOR THE NEXT, YOU KNOW, 6 TO 10 ITEMS. LET'S JUST DO IT NOW AND GET IT OUT OF THE WAY FROM PAGE ONE AND STILL BE ABLE TO TO DIRECT THEM ON SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WERE BROUGHT TO US, MR. CHAIRMAN, THAT MIGHT REQUIRE RESEARCH.

A BIT MORE RESEARCH.

SURE. YEAH. OKAY.

WE COULD PIECEMEAL IT, IN OTHER WORDS.

OKAY. YOU READY? SURE.

PAGE ONE.

OKAY, SO I'VE GOT A SHORT CHEAT SHEET HERE OF SOME OF THE ITEMS THAT THESE ARE ITEMS THAT WE'VE ALREADY APPROVED.

FIVE. OH, WHAT IS IT, 501 OR 506 OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

SO THAT'S DONE.

SO WE'RE LOOKING TO REALLY GET STARTED ON PAGE.

THERE. THE.

GENERAL PROVISION SEE PAGE FIVE.

OKAY. IS THAT IT.

DID YOU HEAR THIS? YOU KNOW WHERE YOU WANT TO START AT.

JIM? WELL, I THINK I HAD ONE PAGE.

IF WE COULD TAKE A FIVE MINUTE BREAK SO WE CAN GO THROUGH OUR PAPERWORK.

MATT, YOU HANDED OUT A A THING WITH THE PNC CHANGES.

YEAH, WE COULD BRING THAT UP ON THE ON THE OVERHEAD.

LET'S BRING THAT UP AND THEN GO THROUGH THOSE ITEMS AND LET'S GET THROUGH THOSE ITEMS. AND THEN IF THERE'S ADDITIONAL ITEMS, THEN WE CAN GO THROUGH THOSE ADDITIONAL ITEMS AND TACKLE THOSE ONE BY ONE.

WOULD THAT WORK? THAT SOUNDS REAL GOOD.

A GOOD PLACE TO START.

OKAY. OKAY.

WE'RE GOING TO TAKE A FIVE MINUTE BREAK, FOLKS.

20 AFTER. MR. BRENNAN AND I CHECKED REAL QUICK AND CONVERSED IN REGARDS TO THIS SO WE CAN GO DOWN THIS, AND MAKE THE CHANGES, VOTE IF WE WISH, AND THEN WE'LL BASICALLY COME BACK IN 60 DAYS TO DO A FINAL APPROVAL.

OKAY. YES.

ALL RIGHT SIR.

THANK YOU. CHAIRMAN. GO FOR IT.

THANK YOU. CHAIRMAN BROWN AND MEMBERS OF THE BOARD AGAIN.

MATT BLAKE, PLANNING MANAGER.

I'M GOING TO WALK THE BOARD THROUGH THE RECOMMENDATIONS THAT CAME TO YOU FROM THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION AT THEIR PREVIOUS MEETING. I'M GOING TO COVER THE RECOMMENDATION.

THE REQUEST THE THAT CAME FROM APPS THAT DEVELOPMENT SERVICES IS IS REQUESTING.

AND THEN WE CAN GO TO WHAT WAS WHAT APPEARED TO BE KIND OF A SHORT LIST OF SOME OF THE ADDITIONAL CHANGES THAT THAT YOU, THE BOARD, SEEM TO FEEL STRONGLY THAT WE MIGHT WANT TO REVISIT FOR FURTHER CHANGES.

SO JUST WHERE YOU WANT TO START RIGHT HERE.

YEAH, I THINK THIS WOULD BE A GOOD PLACE TO START.

MY OPINION I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THE 40 YEARS.

IT DOESN'T AFFECT US.

IT ONLY AFFECTS APPS AND THE WAY THEY DO THEIR BUSINESS.

I AGREE, AND IF WE'RE GOING TO THE CHEAPEST YOU, THE PRIMARY UTILITY WE HAVE IN YAVAPAI COUNTY IS APPS.

SO THEY WOULD BE ABLE TO PROVIDE THE CHEAPEST POWER TO US AND THEM NEEDING THAT 40 YEAR TO MAKE IT WORK.

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NO NO, NO, JUST 40 PLUS TEN.

I MEAN 40, 40, TEN.

NO, IT'S JUST 40.

JUST 40. 40 AS IT'S WRITTEN.

AS IT'S PROPOSED. WHEN THEY TALKED TO ME, THEY SAID 40 PLUS TEN AND THE ABILITY TO GO TO 50 YEARS.

WOW. I WAS ONLY HERE 40.

I KNOW YESTERDAY WHEN THEY CAME TO MY OFFICE, THEY SAID 40.

SO IF I MAY AS AS CURRENTLY PROPOSED.

AND WE CAN CHANGE IT TO WHATEVER YOU WANT.

OF COURSE. BUT IT WAS 40 TO GOING FROM 30 TO 40 YEARS WITH THE OPTION FOR A TEN YEAR EXTENSION.

CORRECT. WELL, THAT'S AN OPTION, YES.

YEAH. BUT RIGHT NOW IT'S JUST 40.

IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING.

I MEAN, THAT'S WHAT I'M GOOD WITH IS 40.

I'M OKAY WITH 40.

AND I'M GOOD WITH 40.

AND THEN IF WE APPROVE A TEN.

BUT IT'S GOT TO GO THROUGH THE BOARD TO APPROVE THE ADDITIONAL TEN YEARS.

CORRECT. ALWAYS IN 40 YEARS, THEY CAN COME TO US AND ASK FOR AN EXTENSION.

YEAH. YES. THEY CAN WAKE ME UP.

COME FIND ME. I'M NOT GOING TO WORRY ABOUT IT.

WAIT A MINUTE. ON THAT NOTE.

OKAY. THANK YOU.

OKAY. SO.

SO HOW THIS IS, IS SO THIS IS A SUBSECTION F ONE REGARDING LOCATION AND DIMENSIONS.

SO THE LANGUAGE AT THE TOP IS WHAT IT CURRENTLY IS.

THE LANGUAGE BELOW IS WHAT THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION RECOMMENDED TO YOU.

WE HEARD COMMENTS FROM THE BOARD TODAY THAT ACTUALLY YOU MIGHT STILL FEEL LIKE TEN IS IS THE IS THE SWEET SPOT ON WHERE THAT THAT NUMBER SHOULD LIE.

SOMETHING THAT CAN BE REVISITED BY WAIVER OR REVISITING THE ORDINANCE IN THE FUTURE.

YEAH, I'M COMFORTABLE WITH TEN.

I'M GOOD WITH TEN.

I PREFER FIVE, BUT THAT'S ME.

I'M FINE WITH TEN.

RIGHT DOWN TO FIVE.

GOING ONCE. WE'RE TALKING ACRES.

5000 ACRES.

THAT'S TEN ACRES BY 500 ACRES.

OR I THINK TEN ACRES BY 100 ACRES.

I THINK TEN ACRES IS MORE THAN APPROPRIATE.

AND THEN THAT IF THEY GO, IF THEY WANT, IF WE INCREASE IT FROM THAT, THEN IT'S GOT TO COME FROM THE BOARD.

BUT 10,000 IS NOT MUCH.

IT'S ALL THE WAY ACROSS THAT WHOLE VALLEY.

OKAY, SO WHAT'S THE CONSENSUS? WELL, REMEMBER, THIS IS ALL PREDICATED ON GETTING SOME OF THE OTHER ANSWERS THAT ARE A PRIORI, LIKE, HOW ARE WE GOING TO MITIGATE WHETHER IT'S 5000 ACRES OR 10,000 ACRES IF THE SOLAR PANELS BLOW UP.

SO, YOU KNOW, I HAVE TO HAVE ANSWERS TO THAT.

SO IF I IF I MAY JUST ADDRESS THE SAFETY CONCERNS.

I MEAN, PEOPLE HAVE LEGITIMATE CONCERNS WITH THAT.

BUT, YOU KNOW, FROM EVERYTHING FROM OUR RESEARCH THAT THAT YOUR DEPARTMENT, YOUR DEVELOPMENT SERVICES CONDUCTED AS THESE ARE NOT THE PANELS THEMSELVES ARE NOT ARE NOT VERY FLAMMABLE.

NOW AT CERTAIN TEMPERATURES, ANYTHING WILL BURN IN A CONFLAGRATION.

RIGHT. BUT THERE'S A LOT OF INFORMATION OUT THERE.

BRUSHFIRES CAN CAN BURN UNDER THEM.

WHAT REALLY BECOMES THE PROBLEM IS WHEN THE PANELS ARE DAMAGED.

WE HEARD CONCERNS ABOUT SUBSTANCES AND CONTAMINANTS, BUT REALLY YOU GOT TO KIND OF PULVERIZE THIS MATERIAL TO REALLY RELEASE AND MOBILIZE THAT, RIGHT? LIKE WHEN YOU LOOK AT HARD ROCK THAT HAS GOLD IN IT.

GOLD EXISTS IN ASSOCIATION WITH CADMIUM, MERCURY.

IT DOESN'T REALLY MOBILIZE IN THE ENVIRONMENT UNTIL YOU PULVERIZE IT.

WHETHER YOU SMASH IT OR BREAK IT.

BUT THAT'S WHY THIS ORDINANCE REQUIRES AN ANNUAL MONITORING REPORT, AND WE'RE GOING TO SPELL OUT EVERYTHING THAT'S REQUIRED, WHETHER IT'S PICTURES.

ET CETERA, ET CETERA.

THAT WILL HAVE A TEMPLATE THAT HAPPENS AFTER THE ORDINANCE.

WE DEVELOP THE TEMPLATE.

THERE'LL BE A TEMPLATE FOR THE DEVELOPER'S AGREEMENT.

SO EVERYTHING SPELLED OUT.

SO THIS AND FUTURE BOARDS WILL FEEL CONFIDENT THAT YOU'RE GETTING ALL OF THE INTEL AND INFORMATION YOU NEED ON THE STATUS OF MAINTENANCE ON THOSE PATTERNS ONCE PER YEAR.

AND IF YOU'RE NOT, YOU HAVE RECOURSE AND LEVERS BUILT INTO THE ORDINANCE TO, TO, TO TO MAKE IT COMPULSORY COMPLIANCE FOR THEM TO FOR AN APPLICANT AND OPERATOR TO ADDRESS THOSE CONCERNS.

MATT. WILL WE BE COUNTING THE ACREAGE THAT'S ALREADY BEING USED WITHIN THE OTHER CITIES AND TOWNS? NOW THIS AS WRITTEN, THIS ORDINANCE APPLIES.

UNINCORPORATED. CORRECT.

THANK YOU. YES. WE SAY IT AT 10,000.

OKAY. WELL THAT'S 10,000.

BUT WE ALREADY GOT 1116 APPROVED.

THAT HAS NOT BEEN BUILT. SO THAT WOULD BE PART OF THAT.

TEN. RIGHT.

THIS IS JUST NEW FUTURE PROJECTS WITHIN THE UNINCORPORATED AREA OF THE COUNTY.

SO THE 1110 OR 1116 THAT'S ALREADY BEEN APPROVED ON THE RANCH, THAT WOULD NOT BE CONSIDERED IN THE 10,000.

CORRECT. HOW MANY IS ON FAN RANCH? THE FIRST I'VE HEARD OF IT. I'M SORRY, I HAVEN'T HEARD OF 10,000 EITHER.

NO, IT'S NOT THAT MUCH.

1116 ACRES.

1100. 1100.

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I THOUGHT YOU SAID 10,000.

NO. NO, NO. 1100.

OKAY. YOU GUYS ALREADY VOTED YES ON THAT.

SO, YOU READY TO MOVE ON? YES. OKAY. YEAH, I THINK WE JUST SAID THAT.

I THOUGHT WE SAID 10,000.

ROOSTERS CROWING.

IT'S OVER WITH TEN.

OKAY. YEAH. GOOD FOR TEN.

JIM. TEN.

YES. TEN.

MARY. YEP. OKAY.

GOT TEN. TEN.

AND YOU CAN ALWAYS CHANGE IT.

TEN. CHANGE IT.

I DON'T CARE HOW MANY HAS ALREADY BEEN PUT UP THERE.

PART OF THE TEN.

YOU AND DONNA EQUAL TEN.

OKAY, WE'RE ON TO THE NEXT SLIDE.

THE NEXT RECOMMENDED ACTION BY THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION.

F2 SETBACKS.

WE CLARIFIED THE LANGUAGE, THOUGH WE WEREN'T TALKING ABOUT SETBACKS FROM RCU, BECAUSE THAT'S THE THAT'S THE ZONE IN WHICH THIS USE PERMIT FOR ALLOWANCE OF UTILITY SCALE SOLAR WOULD BE ALLOWED.

SO THE RECOMMENDED CHANGES AS IT WAS WAS 500FT.

THAT LANGUAGE HAS BEEN CARRIED THROUGH FROM THE VERY BEGINNING.

I THINK WE'RE ALL UNDERSTANDABLY CATCHING IT NOW THAT, YOU KNOW, WHOOPS.

MAYBE WE NEED TO TO TO REVISIT THAT NUMBER.

SO 500FT CURRENTLY WRITTEN FROM DWELLINGS EXISTING OR UNDER PERMIT OR FROM ANY SUBDIVISION.

SO REALLY THIS GETS TO THAT QUESTION THAT CAME UP TODAY IN A VERY FAIR ONE ABOUT FAIRNESS.

DOES IT MATTER IF I'VE JUST GOT A HOUSE ON FIVE ACRES OR I'M A SUBDIVISION? I STILL LIVE HERE. IT STILL AFFECTS ME.

TREAT THEM AS THE SAME CURRENTLY PROPOSED AS ORIGINALLY PROPOSED ON MAY 15TH, 500FT, I THINK.

I THINK THE BOARD HAD CONCERNS THAT THAT NUMBER MAY BE MAY BE INADEQUATE.

YEAH, IT'S 500FT IN MY ESTIMATION IS LESS THAN A 10TH OF A MILE.

OKAY. SO YOU'RE NOT TALKING A LOT OF A LOT OF ROOM THERE.

SO YOU GOT 16 THREE TIMES I'M DOING THE MATH HERE IN MY BRAIN.

SO ANYWAY, I THINK IT SHOULD BE AT LEAST 1000FT FROM ANY RESIDENTIAL AREA OR A QUARTER MILE QUARTER MILE WORKS.

YEAH, A MILE.

I MEAN, YOU KNOW, THIS IS THIS IS.

A VALID POINT. FIRE DISTANCE FROM PROPERTY LINE TO PROPERTY LINE.

WE ALL UNDERSTAND THAT.

OKAY. IT'S WRITTEN FOR PRESIDENTS, THOUGH.

PRESIDENTS? YEAH.

FROM THE DWELLING. BUT THEIR PROPERTY LINE.

IF YOU GOT A HOUSE, YOU GOT A PROPERTY LINE.

THEN FROM YOUR PROPERTY LINE TO THEIR PROPERTY LINE HAS GOT TO BE AT LEAST WHAT WE'RE SAYING NOW IS WHAT, A QUARTER OR HALF MILE? YEAH, THAT'S A MILE.

SO MAYBE WE COULD SAY PROPERTY LINE BECAUSE IT SAYS DWELLING AND MY, MY DWELLING IS 100 FOOT INTO MY PROPERTY LINE.

AND THEN THE ONLY ONE ACROSS MY FENCE.

RIGHT. OKAY. BUT WE'RE INCREASING THAT NUMBER TO A QUARTER MILE.

YEAH, WE'RE INCREASING IT, NOT REDUCING IT.

YEAH. BEFORE THE BREAK, THE NUMBER THAT I HEARD FROM THE BOARD WAS 1500 FEET FROM FROM DWELLINGS, WHETHER IT'S A MAJOR SUBDIVISION OR AN INDIVIDUAL HOME.

WE HEARD ADDITIONAL INFORMATION THAT WAS INFORMATIVE.

I JUST WORRIED THAT 200FT IS ENOUGH UNTIL WE KNOW MORE ABOUT MITIGATION.

I'M JUST. I KNOW I'M TRYING TO TURN ON YOUR MICROPHONE BEFORE I TURN YOUR MIC ON.

TURN ON YOUR MIC. OH, SORRY.

SO 1500.

IS THAT THAT'S WHAT I HEARD IN THAT'S A QUARTER MILE.

THAT'S A QUARTER MILE. YEAH.

YEAH. THAT'S THAT'S FAIR.

APPROXIMATELY. YEAH.

I'M NOT CONVINCED THAT THAT'S THE RIGHT NUMBER.

I THINK I NEED TO KNOW MORE.

I'M SORRY, I JUST CAN'T I'M GOOD FOR 1600.

I'M GOOD WITH 1600.

MARY, MARY, I'M TRYING TO LOOK AT THIS SITUATION ON THE DWELLING.

WHAT WE HAVE TO DO.

THAT'S A GOOD POINT. SO WHEN YOU SAY THE DWELLINGS.

CAN WE GO 1600 FOOT FROM THE PROPERTY LINE? NO. CAN WE JUST MODIFY IT TO THE, SAY, THE PROPERTY LINE AND THEN THAT WAY THAT'S NOT THERE'S NO QUESTIONS ABOUT THE PROPERTY WITH THE DWELLING ON IT.

AND MARY, A DWELLING IS A PLACE WHERE PEOPLE LIVE.

RIGHT. SO IF IT'S PROPERTY LINE, YOU JUST WANT TO DISTINGUISH, ARE WE TALKING ABOUT ANYBODY'S PROPERTY? WE'RE TALKING ABOUT PROPERTIES THAT HAVE HOMES ON THEM.

OH THERE YOU GO. SEE, CHAIRMAN.

WITH DWELLINGS, A DWELLING.

A DWELLING IS A HOUSE OR PEOPLE DWELLING IN A LATE IN THE AFTERNOON.

OKAY. AND SO NEXT A IS THAT AN L RIGHT THERE.

SUSAN, HELP MY EYES.

OKAY. THANK YOU. SO, 500FT FROM OTHER ZONING DISTRICTS OUTSIDE OF OUR Q SO THIS IS SORT OF EVERYTHING ELSE.

WE'RE TALKING ABOUT SETBACKS FROM DIFFERENT ZONING DISTRICTS, UNLESS SUCH PROPERTY IS ZONED OR APPROVED TO ALLOW TO TO ALLOW UTILITY SCALE

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SO I THINK I HEARD BEFORE THE BREAK THAT MAYBE THERE'S NOT A CONCERN WITH THE FIRST PART OF THAT SENTENCE, BUT THERE MAY BE A CONCERN WITH THE UNLESS SUCH AN AREA PROPERTY IS ZONED OR APPROVED TO TO ALLOW UTILITY SCALE ENERGY FACILITIES.

SO ESSENTIALLY WE'RE GETTING TO THE ADJACENCY.

RIGHT. SO AS THIS IS CURRENTLY WRITTEN YOU'VE GOT A LET'S SAY IT'S A 3000 ACRE PROJECT.

THAT SECOND PART OF OF L WOULD SAY YOU COULD PUT ANOTHER ONE RIGHT NEXT TO IT, THE LIKE IT WOULD BE AN EXCEPTION TO THE SETBACK.

CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG.

THEY CAN COME TO US AND ASK FOR ANYTHING AND THEY CAN SAY WHAT THEY WANT TO GIVE UP AND WE CAN SAY, WELL, WE WILL GIVE UP AND WE CAN CHANGE THIS BECAUSE IT'S A USE PERMIT. THAT'S EXACTLY RIGHT.

CHAIRMAN BANGING BACK AND FORTH OVER, YOU KNOW, THIS TYPE OF ACTUAL LANGUAGE.

LET THEM COME TO US AND TELL US WHAT YOU WANT, AND WE'LL TELL YOU IF WE'RE WILLING TO GO ALONG WITH IT.

WE HAVE OUR LEGAL LINE TO TALK.

THANK YOU. SUPERVISOR, CHAIRMAN, MEMBERS OF THE BOARD.

AS YOU'VE NOTED.

YEAH, THESE ARE PRESUMPTIVE STANDARDS.

SO IF THERE'S A LACK OF COMFORT IN RELATION TO PROXIMITY TO THE HOUSES, YOU COULD SET THE DISTANCE AT A GREATER DISTANCE, AND THEN SOMEONE COULD COME IN AND APPLY FOR A WAIVER IN AN APPROPRIATE INSTANCE.

ISN'T THAT RIGHT? BUT ONCE YOU SET IT AT A LOWER NUMBER THAT THEN IT'S ALLOWED AND YOU CAN'T CHANGE THE RULES.

WHEN THE BALL IS IN PLAY, IT'S MORE DIFFICULT TO ALLOW US TO SAY NO.

IF YOU WANT TO COME IN AND SAY IT'S 500 AND WE SAY OUR STATUTE OR REGULATION SAYS 500.

WE'RE STUCK WITH THE 500.

CORRECT. WHEREAS IF THERE'S NOT COMFORT WITH THAT, YOU COULD SET IT AT A AT A GREATER DISTANCE.

AND THEN SOMEONE COULD ASK FOR A WAIVER AS TO THAT CONDITION IN RELATION TO A SPECIFIC DEVELOPMENT.

AND THE BOARD COULD CONSIDER WHETHER OR NOT THAT'S APPROPRIATE.

YEAH. AND I JUST FIGURE THAT WHEN THEY KEEP REFERRING TO DWELLINGS, IT'S JUST WE'RE TRYING TO KEEP IT AWAY FROM THE HOUSE AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE.

SO WHAT IS THAT HOW MUCH FEEDBACK FROM ALL THAT IS WHERE WE'RE AT ONE POINT.

I THINK THAT'S CLEAR. THE WAY THIS WAS WRITTEN, AT LEAST THE THE INTENT IS THAT THESE ARE MINIMUMS. YOU CAN YOU CAN REQUIRE ADDITION.

I THINK WE ALL AGREE IT MAKES SENSE TO CHANGE THAT 500 NUMBER.

I HEARD 12. MAYBE WE WANT TO MAKE IT A HALF A MILE, WHICH I THINK OFFHAND WITH 20, 26, 40FT 2640 MAKE IT A HALF MILE. I'M JUST KIND OF THROWING STUFF OUT TO.

AND I KNOW IN OUR MINING REGULATIONS AND WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT THE AGGREGATE MINES AND WHATNOT, AND WE SET THAT AS A HALF MILE, AND THAT SEEMS LIKE A FAIR NUMBER, KEEPING IT AWAY FROM RESIDENTS THAT HALF MILE MARKER.

AND THEN IF THAT'S A MINIMUM AND THE RESIDENTIAL HOUSING AND WE'RE TALKING ABOUT COMMERCIAL PROJECTS, I THINK, I THINK I'M MORE GOOD WITH THE HALF MILE.

NOW AS WE'RE TALKING THROUGH IT, I THINK A HALF MILE IS MORE THAN FAIR MILE.

MILE. I'D LIKE TO GET TO A MILE TO TELL YOU, BUT I DON'T HAVE THE SUBSTANCE TO DO THAT.

WHAT? COME ON.

DON'T YOU KNOW YOU RUN A MILE? YEAH. ACTUALLY, I DON'T KNOW.

OKAY. YEAH.

AND THE REASON IS, IF WE'RE DOING WITH OUR MINING AND STUFF, THAT'S KIND OF STANDARD STANDARDS.

WELL, YOU KNOW, WE COULD DO A MILE.

AND LIKE THEY SAID, YOU KNOW, WE CAN ALWAYS GO LEFT, BUT ONCE WE'RE TOO LESS, WE CAN'T GO MORE.

SO, YOU KNOW WHAT? WE JUST GO A MILE.

GO A MILE IN THERE.

I'M GOOD WITH THAT. I'D RATHER START THERE AND BRING IT IN.

CAN WE DO A MILE MY WAY OUT? I'D RATHER HAVE, YOU KNOW, KEEPING IT STANDARDIZED WITH THE MINING AS WE GO WITH THE AGGREGATE.

I'M HOPING THE MINING, EVENTUALLY.

THE MINING FROM WHAT I'VE JUST RECENTLY LEARNED.

WOW. NOW WHAT IS IT? A MILE WON'T BE GOOD.

YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE CONFLICTS THAT THAT HAS BEEN IS THAT WE WANT TO BE PROTECTIVE OF THE RESIDENTIAL PEOPLE FIRST.

OF COURSE, EVERY TIME, AT THE SAME TIME, THE MORE YOU PUSH THAT, THAT BUFFER OUT.

SO THE SOLAR IS GOING FURTHER AWAY FROM THE BUILT ENVIRONMENT.

IMAGINE THE SCENARIO IN THE PRAIRIE.

YOU'RE PUSHING IT FURTHER OUT INTO INTO THE PRAIRIE.

I DON'T KNOW WHERE THE SWEET SPOT.

SWEET SPOT IS. THAT'S WHERE, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE TO RELY ON YOU.

BUT JUST BE MINDFUL THAT IT'S TRYING TO BALANCE THOSE TWO SENSITIVE RECEPTORS.

YOU KNOW, BOTH ARE IMPORTANT.

PEOPLE TAKE THE PRECEDENT, OF COURSE, IN EVERY CASE.

WELL, THAT'S THAT'S THE YOU KNOW, PUSH ME, PULL ME THERE.

WE DON'T KNOW HOW TO MAKE THE BEST DECISIONS ON THIS.

SO IT'S DIFFICULT.

I WOULD RATHER, IN THE LONG RUN, PLAY IT SAFE.

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BUT I SO APPRECIATE WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, BECAUSE I DON'T WANT IT WAY OUT THERE WHERE IT'S GOING TO BE A BIGGER A GREATER RISK, OF COURSE.

WELL, AND THE FURTHER YOU PUSH IT OUT THERE, ACTUALLY IN MANY CASES YOU'RE ACTUALLY PUSHING IT MORE INTO THE VIEW SHED, RIGHT? NOT JUST OF MAYBE YOUR SUBJECT COMPETING INTERESTS.

YES. SO I THINK STAFF IS COMFORTABLE WITH WITH THE HALF MILE.

MILE HALF.

YEAH. WE CAN GO DOWN. CAN YOU BRING US SOME SOME RESEARCH ABOUT BEST PRACTICES AND WHAT HAS HAPPENED IN THESE OTHER.

I THINK WE WE LOOKED AT A LOT OF OTHER ORDINANCES, AND I THINK THAT WE REALLY WERE SENSITIVE TO THE ISSUE.

EXCUSE ME. AND THE DESIRE TO GO ABOVE AND BEYOND A LOT OF THE OTHER MODELS OUT THERE.

WHAT I'M SPEAKING TO, OR WHERE HAVE THE EVENTS BEEN THAT HAVE HAD THE IMPACTS AND WHAT HOW DO THEY INFORM US? I DON'T KNOW IF WE'VE LOOKED AT BEST PRACTICES IN THE IDEAL SENSE OR WHAT ARE OTHER MODELS.

I'M ASKING WHERE ARE THE EVENTS THAT HAVE TAKEN PLACE? FOR EXAMPLE, LIKE WHAT? SUPERBOWL? LET'S PLAN AGAINST THE WORST CASE SCENARIO AND WE'LL INCREASE THE SAFETY OF OUR RESIDENTS AND OUR LAND.

BUT I JUST DON'T KNOW WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN WITH GOLF BALL SIZED, GOLF BALL SIZED HAIL IN A 1500 FEET OR, YOU KNOW, SOMETHING LESS THAN WHAT IS REASONABLE FOR US TO THINK WE CAN GET AWAY FROM IT, OR WE CAN EVACUATE, OR WE CAN DO WHATEVER WE NEED TO DO. AND I KNOW THE CONSTERNATION ON YOUR FACE, AND YOU'RE SUCH A WELL RESEARCHED STAFF THAT I'M NOT TRYING TO MAKE IT HARD FOR YOU.

I'M TRYING TO GET US NOW THAT WE'VE LOOKED AT, YOU KNOW, WHAT OTHER MODELS ARE OUT THERE.

WHAT ABOUT THE WORST CASE SCENARIOS AND WHAT CAN WE LEARN FROM IT TO BETTER INFORM US? AND I JUST DON'T HAVE THAT ANSWER YET, MATT.

TO GIVE YOU DIRECTION.

NOW I JUST SAY, LOOK, I WOULD LOOK TO THE DIRECTION OF THE BOARD AND THE CONSENSUS AS FAR AS DIRECTION YOU A MILE TO A MILE BECAUSE WE COULD ALWAYS. I'M GOOD FOR A MILE.

YEAH. THANK YOU.

LET'S GO FOR A MILE. THANK YOU.

MATT. THANK YOU. OKAY.

THANK YOU. OKAY.

WAS THERE ANYTHING ELSE ON THIS SLIDE? WHAT ABOUT.

RIGHT. OKAY. THE SECOND PART OF L.

UNLESS SUCH AREA.

SO 500FT FROM OTHER ZONING DISTRICTS OUTSIDE OF RCU, UNLESS SUCH AREA OR PROPERTY IS ZONED OR APPROVED TO ET.AL TO TO ALLOW UTILITY SCALE ENERGY.

SO THIS IS THAT AGAIN THAT ADJACENCY ISSUE.

DO YOU WANT TO ALLOW LARGE PROJECTS TO BE CO-LOCATED TOGETHER.

OR ARE YOU CONCERNED THAT THAT THE BIGGER THE PROJECT, THE GREATER THE IMPACT? YOU KNOW, ON THE ONE HAND IT MAKES SENSE TO PUT LIKE USES TOGETHER.

YES, IT'S EUCLIDEAN ZONING, BUT ON THE OTHER IT HAS AN IMPACT.

THIS IS WHAT WE CURRENTLY PROPOSE, AND I JUST I WANTED TO HIT THE PAUSE BUTTON TO GIVE YOU A MOMENT TO DIGEST IF IF THAT MAKES SENSE, IF THAT'S ACCEPTABLE.

WELL, WE SAID IN THE CASE OF TWO SECTIONS, I HAVE A 1300 FOOT BOUNDARY BETWEEN THEM.

FOR WILDLIFE, I WOULDN'T LIKE TO SEE 3000FT AND 500FT AWAY, ANOTHER 3000FT, BECAUSE YOU'RE NOT GOING TO HAVE ANY, ANY CORRIDOR THERE FOR WILDLIFE.

SO I WOULD SAY A MINIMUM OF A MILE BETWEEN TWO BETWEEN PROJECTS.

PARDON. BETWEEN PROJECTS.

YEAH. SO IT MIGHT MAKE SENSE AT A MINIMUM THEN TO TO STRIKE THE SECOND PART OF THAT SENTENCE.

READ THAT FOR ME MATT IF YOU OKAY.

SO L RIGHT.

WE'VE MOVED ON FROM TALKING ABOUT DWELLINGS.

NOW WE'RE TALKING ABOUT SEPARATION VIA SETBACK BETWEEN A SOLAR FIELD AND AND OTHER ZONING DISTRICTS.

SO 500FT FROM ANY OTHER ZONING DISTRICT OUTSIDE OF RCU, UNLESS SUCH AREA OR PROPERTY IS ZONED OR APPROVED TO ALLOW UTILITY SCALE ENERGY FACILITIES, SO IT'S 500FT FROM OTHER ZONES.

NOW, IF THAT ZONE ENTAILS RESIDENTIAL AND YOU GET TO INCREASE IT.

SO REALLY WE'RE TALKING ABOUT HOW MUCH DO WE CARE IF WE'RE GOING TO PUT A FACILITY NEXT TO A LIGHT INDUSTRIAL ZONE? WELL, WE PROBABLY WANT AT LEAST 500FT BECAUSE SOME OF THESE ZONES MAY GROW.

BUT DO WE WANT TO CO-LOCATE THEM TOGETHER? ON THE ONE HAND, IT MAKES SENSE TO DO THAT.

ON THE OTHER, YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT A BIGGER IMPACT.

YOU KNOW, IT'S THAT AGE OLD QUESTION IS DILUTION THE SOLUTION TO POLLUTION, OR DO YOU JUST WANT TO PUT ALL THESE AREAS IN ONE AREA WHERE, WELL, BECAUSE THEY'RE GOING TO BE ULTIMATELY THEY WANT TO TIE INTO THE GRID, RIGHT?

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SO IF ONE OPERATOR GOES TO ONE LOCATION, HE GETS APPROVAL.

PRESUMABLY THAT'S A GOOD LOCATION.

YOU'VE ALREADY SIGNALED TO THE REGULATED COMMUNITY THAT YOU WANT THEM THERE, AND THEY'RE PROBABLY THERE BECAUSE THERE'S A SUBSTATION OR INTERCONNECTION.

AND THAT'S REALLY WHAT I WAS THINKING.

OUR OUR THINKING WAS, IS IF WE COULD KEEP SOME OF THESE TOGETHER, THAT MIGHT BE BETTER, BECAUSE THE MORE YOU LEAPFROG INTO OTHER PRISTINE AREAS, WELL, YOU'RE INTRODUCING AN INDUSTRIAL USE INTO AN OTHERWISE PRISTINE AREA.

LET ME ASK YOU, WHAT YOU'VE CREATED HERE IS A BOUNDARY AND IT'S CALLED A DWELLING.

AM I CORRECT? A DWELLING, YEAH.

OKAY. CORRECT. SO I'M ON 50 ACRES OR 150 ACRES, AND I'M IN THE VERY MIDDLE.

SO DOES THAT MEAN THAT THEY CAN COME RIGHT UP TO MY PROPERTY LINE ON THEIR SIDE? BECAUSE IT'S STILL 500FT AWAY? YOU UNDERSTAND WHAT I'M SAYING? WELL, USING THE WORD DWELLING CAUSES AN ISSUE.

ARE WE STILL DOING DWELLING? YOU SEE WHAT I'M SAYING? YEAH, I HEAR THAT POINT.

YEAH. THERE'S ALSO OTHER BUFFERS THAT MAY COME INTO INTO INTO PLAY.

RIGHT. WHEN THERE'S NOT JUST THE RESIDENTIAL, BUT THERE'S YOU CAN'T CAN'T BUILD IT WITHIN 500FT OF A PROPERTY LINE.

YES. YEAH.

SO WE COULD ADDRESS BOTH.

RIGHT. IF YOU'RE TALKING HALF A MILE FROM A RESIDENTIAL DWELLING AND THEN.

OH. I'M SORRY. FORGIVE ME.

PLEASE. IT'S BEEN A LONG DAY. THAT WAS SNEAKY OF YOU.

HAHA. YEAH, I WORK FOR YOU.

WE ARE HONORED.

SO. BUT I'M JUST SAYING THAT THE CHANGE LANGUAGE AND I THINK SUSAN JUST READ IT, WROTE IT DOWN THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT A MILE FROM A RESIDENTIAL DWELLING AND 500 AND AT LEAST 500FT FROM FROM PROPERTY LINE.

SO YOU'VE KIND OF ADDRESSED BOTH ISSUES TO YOUR POINT THAT WOULD FIT.

I'D GO FOR THAT.

OKAY. YEAH.

SEE THAT'S GOOD. THIS IS WHAT COMES OUT OF THESE LONG MEETINGS SOMETIMES AS YOU KIND OF GET IT, GET IT RIGHT, DRAGGING IT OUT OF YOU, MAN.

I THINK WE'RE DRAGGING IT OUT OF EVERYBODY, BUT WE'LL GET THERE.

OKAY. I THINK WE'RE READY TO MOVE ON TO THE NEXT SLIDE.

OKAY. NEXT ACTION.

I THINK EVERYONE FELT REAL COMFORTABLE WITH THIS IS WHAT PUBLIC WORKS ALREADY REQUIRES FOR ANY SUBSTANTIAL PROJECT THAT IMPACTS A COUNTY ROAD.

THIS IS WITH RESPECT TO WHAT THEY REQUIRE AS PART OF THE TRAFFIC IMPACT ANALYSIS REPORT THAT GETS FURNISHED TO THE COUNTY ENGINEER BY AN APPLICANT.

WE JUST WANTED TO DISPEL IT OUT EXPECTATIONS NOW CRYSTAL CLEAR.

YEAH, I AGREE WITH THAT.

OKAY. SO NOW THE NEXT TWO RECOMMENDED RECOMMENDED CHANGES ARE VIRTUALLY THE SAME, EXCEPT THAT ONE APPLIES TO BATTERY STORAGE.

THE OTHER APPLIES TO TO SUBSTATION.

SO BEST IF YOU CALL IT SHORT.

BUT SO WHAT THE CHANGE IS.

LET'S GO UNDER WHAT'S HIGHLIGHTED.

RECOMMENDED REVISION.

STANDALONE BATTERY ENERGY STORAGE FACILITIES SHALL BE REGULATED IN THE SAME MANNER AS POWER GENERATING FACILITIES, AS DESCRIBED IN SECTION 301.

DEFINITIONS OF THIS ORDINANCE.

SO THIS IS IF THEY'RE IT'S A STANDALONE PROJECT.

AND WE UNDERSTOOD FROM APS AND OTHERS THAT THERE IS A NEED FOR THIS.

AND SO WE YOU KNOW, WE'RE TRYING TO BE RESPONSIVE TO TO TO THAT NEED.

NOT EVERY ONE OF THESE SUBSTATIONS OR BATTERY STORAGE FACILITIES IS GOING TO BE IS GOING TO BE ACCESSORY TO OR PART OF A SOLAR APPLICATION. SO IN THAT LIMITED INSTANCE FOR EITHER TYPE OF USE, THE ORDINANCE ALREADY ALLOWS THOSE THOSE USES.

AND WHAT IS IT THE M2 ZONE IN THE M2 ZONE.

SO THAT'S A REALLY, REALLY SMALL AREA OF THE COUNTY SPECIFIC FOR INDUSTRIAL USES.

SO WHAT THE CHANGE SAYS IS THAT SUBSTATIONS AND BEST FACILITIES CAN GO IN THOSE LIGHT INDUSTRIAL AREAS, FOLLOWING THOSE STANDARDS THEREIN.

OTHERWISE FOR EVERYTHING ELSE REALLY NO CHANGE.

BEST FACILITY OR SUBSTATION ASSOCIATED WITH THE SOLAR FACILITY THAT ARE INCLUDED IN A SOLAR FACILITY USE PERMIT ARE SUBJECT TO THE SAME PROVISIONS OF THIS SECTION, AS WELL AS ADDITIONAL REQUIREMENTS.

SO EVERYTHING THAT WE'VE BEEN HEARING TODAY ABOUT ALL THE REQUIREMENTS FOR THE SOLAR FACILITY, IF YOU'RE DOING A BESS OR A SUBSTATION AS PART OF THAT PROJECT, YOU'VE GOT TO ABIDE BY ALL OF THOSE REGULATIONS.

AND BY THE WAY, OUR ORDINANCE ALSO INCLUDES SOME ADDITIONAL STANDARDS.

WE DIDN'T TEASE THEM OUT BECAUSE WE WERE FOCUSING ON THE CHANGES, BUT WE DO HAVE ADDITIONAL PROTECTIONS IN PLACE TO ADDRESS, YOU KNOW, ISSUES.

RIGHT? BECAUSE WE LOOK AT REVIEW PANELS A BIT DIFFERENTLY THAN WE WOULD A SUBSTATION.

I THINK WE'RE MORE USED TO SEEING SUBSTATIONS IN THE BUILT ENVIRONMENT.

WE'VE HAD ISSUES IN THE PAST WITH BESS.

WE'VE GOT TO TREAT THAT DIFFERENTLY.

SO THAT LANGUAGE SHOWS UP AGAIN HERE.

SAME CHANGE, BUT THIS DEALS WITH SUBSTATIONS AND AGAIN AS RECOMMENDED BY THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION.

SO GOING BACK TO THE BEST FOR A MINUTE.

SO A BESS BEST FACILITY WOULD NOT COUNT IN A 10,000 ACRE FEET REQUIREMENT CAP.

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SO ASSUMING THAT THAT'S IF YOU HAVE THREE PROJECTS AT 3000 ACRES AND THAT TAKES YOU TO 10,000 ACRES, YOU BASICALLY GOT THREE BEST FACILITIES THAT ARE GOING TO BE LOCATED WITHIN THE FOOTPRINT OF THAT OF EACH INDIVIDUAL SOLAR PANEL PROJECTS.

THAT'S THREE. THE ONLY INSTANCE WHERE THEY ABIDE BY THE DIFFERENT STANDARD FOR POWER GENERATING UTILITIES WOULD BE, AGAIN, IN THAT SMALL LIGHT INDUSTRIAL ZONE WE CALL MT M2.

WELL, HOW BIG DO YOU THINK WE'RE TALKING ABOUT WITH THE BEST FACILITY, SMALL ACREAGE OR SO? I THINK THAT IN CONJUNCTION WITH THE SOLAR FACILITY, I WOULD IMAGINE THAT THERE WOULD BE A LOT OF THIS STUFF IS GOING TO GET ADDRESSED AT THE AT THE SITE PLAN, AT THE APPLICATION PHASE.

SO WHETHER OR NOT THEY'RE WANTING TO, THEY MAY COME AND WANT TO PROPOSE THAT A LITTLE BIT CLOSER TO THE PANELS, THE BOARD MAY SAY, WE ACTUALLY WANT TO HAVE A BUFFER ON THE PROJECT SITE BETWEEN THE ACTUAL PANELS AND THE BEST FACILITY, AND IT'LL BE UP TO.

AND OF COURSE, THEY'LL HAVE PROFESSIONALS.

WE HAVE PROFESSIONALS.

AND WE'LL KIND OF WE'LL REQUIRE THE APPLICANT TO JUSTIFY WHY THAT MAKES SENSE.

BUT SOME OF THESE QUESTIONS ARE GETTING TO THE SITE PLAN STAGE.

I DON'T THINK WE'RE THERE YET.

WITH RESPECT TO TO THE STANDARDS FOR A STANDALONE PROJECT IN M2, THERE'S NOT A LOT THERE AS FAR AS STANDARDS, AND I THINK THAT'S WHY THAT'S A VERY SMALL DISTRICT.

DISTRICT? EXCUSE ME, THIS STUFF HAS TO GO SOMEWHERE.

BUT THAT'S A VERY SMALL DISTRICT.

AND WE WERE RESPONSIVE TO TO THAT REQUEST BECAUSE THAT WAS SOMETHING THAT APS FELT STRONGLY THAT WAS IN THAT THAT THERE WAS A NEED FOR IN THE COUNTY.

I THINK WE HAD REQUESTS TO INCLUDE THESE STANDALONE FACILITIES IN MANY OF THE OTHER DISTRICTS WITHIN THE COUNTY, BUT WE WERE A FIRM.

NO, THAT'S REALLY BEYOND THE SCOPE.

AND YOU MAY SAY TO ME NOW I'M NOT COMFORTABLE.

I DON'T KNOW THE STANDARD ENOUGH OF THE M2 DISTRICT.

WE CAN STRIKE THAT NOW.

WE CAN REVISIT THAT WHEN WE LOOK AT THE COMPREHENSIVE UPDATE TO THE ZONING CODE.

SO IF I'M FEELING DISCOMFORT AMONG MEMBERS AND UNCERTAINTY, THIS ISN'T CRITICAL TO THE ORDINANCE.

IT'S REALLY SATELLITE TO WHAT WE'RE DOING.

OKAY. AND THEN THANK YOU FOR THAT BECAUSE THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT I'M TRYING TO READ.

THE THE CONTORTED FACES.

YES. IT'S JUST MIRRORING BACK TO ME.

YES. THANK YOU.

OKAY. ALL RIGHT. SO IT SOUNDS LIKE WE'RE GOING TO STRIKE.

NO, NOT H2, J BATTERY STORAGE K, BUT ONLY SPECIFIC TO.

WE'RE GOING TO KEEP THE LANGUAGE AS IT PERTAINS TO THESE FACILITIES HAPPENING IN TANDEM AS PART OF A SOLAR APPLICATION, BUT STRIKING THE LANGUAGE AS IT PERTAINS TO STAND ALONE IN M2.

YEP. YEP. YAY! ALL RIGHT, SO THAT'S THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMENTS.

AND NOW I'M NOW I GET TO BE CHALLENGED BY READING MY OWN HANDWRITING.

OKAY. SO A COUPLE OF THESE WE ALREADY ADDRESSED.

SO SOME OF THE CONCERNS THAT YOU HAD WERE ACTUALLY EMBEDDED IN THE P AND Z RECOMMENDATIONS.

SO I CAN STRIKE SOME OF THESE OUT.

LET'S SEE. OKAY.

SO ONE OF THEM WAS IN F IN SUBSECTION F1D5.

AND THIS SHOULD I BRING UP THE FINAL DRAFT.

YES. LET'S GO AHEAD.

SO WE HAVE VISUALS.

THANK YOU. WHILE YOU'RE DOING THAT, I DO WANT TO JUST COMMENT THAT NO HUMAN BEING COULD TAKE THE NOTES THAT WERE FLYING AT US.

I CAN'T READ MY WRITING EITHER.

IN OTHER WORDS, I KNOW THIS IS RECORDED.

ARE WE GOING TO GET A TREND? ARE YOU GOING TO GET MAD AT TRANSCRIPTION IN A TIMELY WAY, SO YOU CAN MAKE SURE WE'RE NOT MISSING ANY OF THOSE POINTS? I PRESUME. SO I FROM TIME TO TIME THAT IS REQUIRED.

I THINK WE TURN TO THAT WORK PRETTY PRETTY QUICKLY AFTER AFTER HEARING.

BUT I DON'T WANT TO SPEAK FOR MY ADMIN.

BUT YEAH, GENERALLY THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE MOVE TO.

YEAH PRETTY QUICKLY. GOOD.

YEAH. BUT WE DON'T STAFF.

WE DON'T DO THE MINUTES.

YES I KNOW THERE IS A RECORDING THAT IS DONE.

YEAH. THANK YOU.

JUST BEAR WITH US A SECOND.

IT'S IT'S ONLY 30 PAGES.

YOU GOTTA FIND WHERE WE WANT TO BE.

OKAY. HERE WE GO.

ALL RIGHT, SO AGAIN FOR F1D5 PROJECT SITES THAT HAVE MINIMAL NEGATIVE VISUAL IMPACT ON SIGNIFICANT LANDFORMS AND SCENIC VIEW SHEDS OF WIDELY RECOGNIZED ESTHETIC OR RECREATIONAL VALUE OR WHICH ARE MORE THAN THE RECOMMENDED CHANGE. THE ORDINANCE IS RECOMMENDED, SAYS FIVE.

THAT'S NOT WHAT ORIGINALLY WAS PROPOSED.

TODAY WE HEARD, ACTUALLY, THE BOARD LIKED WHERE WE BEGAN, WHICH WAS AT TEN MILES FROM VISUAL RESOURCES SUCH AS NATURAL LANDFORMS, VEGETATION, WATER FEATURES, AND

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WHO WROTE THAT? BUT ESSENTIALLY WE WANT TO PROTECT AREAS THAT ARE VISUALLY SIGNIFICANT BECAUSE WE HAVE MANY SPECTACULAR LANDSCAPES IN THE COUNTY, AND SO WE WANT TO GET THIS RIGHT.

IF AN APPLICANT HAS SOME REASON THAT HE CAN FURNISH, WHY, HE CAN HE HE BELIEVES HE OR SHE BELIEVES THAT THEY CAN BE CLOSER AND MITIGATE JUST BECAUSE OF MAYBE IT'S THE GRADE OF THE LAND, ETC..

IT'S A WAIVER.

SO IT'S A SHOW ME OKAY.

SO WE'RE GOING TO CHANGE THAT BACK TO ORIGINALLY PROPOSED TO TEN MILES AS THE PREFERRED STANDARD.

KEEP THEM OUT OF SCENIC AREAS.

OKAY. GREAT.

AND TEXAS.

TEXAS? NO.

JUST US. OKAY.

SLOPE F ONE.

OH. DID YOU NUMBER THIS? PAGE 18.

WHICH PAGE? PAGE 19.

YEAH. OKAY.

SO F1E5.

HERE WE GO. SORRY.

OKAY, SO THE NEXT THING WE HEARD, IT WAS REGARDING STEEP SLOPES.

REFERENCE IS F1E5.

CURRENTLY AS PROPOSED.

STEEP SLOPES AVERAGING GREATER THAN 8% OVER 300FT OR MORE OF HORIZONTAL RUN THAT WE ORIGINALLY HAD PROPOSED IT AT FIVE.

WE HEARD FROM FROM THE PUBLIC THAT THAT MAY BE PROBLEMATIC FOR SOME SITES, BUT WE REALLY WANT TO BE PROTECTIVE OF, AGAIN, THE VISUAL ENVIRONMENT.

AND SO I BELIEVE WE HEARD FROM THE BOARD THAT YOU WERE ACTUALLY OKAY WITH FIVE AND WOULD LIKE TO GO BACK TO THAT AS ORIGINALLY PROPOSED REGARDING STEEP SLOPES.

IT'S STILL STEEP.

IT'S JUST NOT 8%.

IT'S NOT THE YAVAPAI CONNECTOR.

RIGHT. YEAH. AND DEVELOPMENT SERVICES SUPPORTS THAT CHANGE.

OKAY. GREAT. THANK YOU.

AND WE DEALT WITH 500FT FROM DWELLINGS.

OH, I KNOW I WANTED.

DO YOU HAVE THAT ORDINANCE? I JUST WANTED TO READ SOMETHING FOR THE BENEFIT OF ONE OF THE QUESTIONS AND CONCERNS THAT WERE RAISED BY SUPERVISOR OBERG.

IS THAT IS THAT ALL THE ONES THAT SUSAN, THAT WE FELT THE BOARD THAT WE NOTED OF THE BOARD THAT THEY WANTED TO REVISIT TODAY, MAYBE THERE WAS SOME MAYBES, 12 MONTH ABANDONMENT.

THAT WAS THE OTHER ONE.

OKAY. ORIGINALLY SIX MONTHS.

YOU HAVE ALL THE LEVERS TO TO COMPEL AN OPERATOR TO STEP IN.

WE CHANGED THAT BECAUSE WE HEARD FROM APS AND OTHERS THAT THAT WAS NOT SO REALISTIC.

WE HEARD TODAY THAT THERE'S OTHER ORDINANCES.

AND AGAIN, A LOT OF THIS LANGUAGE, WE DID LOOK AT LOTS OF OTHER ORDINANCE AND KIND OF IN SOME OF THESE QUESTIONS OF SHOULD IT BE 10 OR 20? WE TRIED TO FIND OURSELVES IN THE MIDDLE BECAUSE SOMETIMES THESE NUMBERS SEEM A LITTLE BIT ARBITRARY.

WE DEVELOPMENT SERVICES BELIEVES THAT 12 THAT A YEAR, 12 MONTHS IS ADEQUATE.

BUT IF YOU FEEL THAT'S INADEQUATE, THEN WE COULD MAKE THAT CHANGE.

I THINK 12 MONTHS IS OKAY.

YOU'RE GOOD. I'M GOOD WITH 12.

YEAH. COCONINO IS TWO YEARS.

I THINK THAT'S TOO LONG FOR A FACILITY TO BE NOT FUNCTIONAL OR WHATEVER THE ISSUE IS.

SO AND WE HAVE THE REQUIREMENT AT SIX MONTHS TO GO IN THERE AND, AND HAVE THEM START TO DO MAINTENANCE OR WHATEVER IS NECESSARY OR DO IT OURSELVES AND CHARGE THEM FOR IT.

AND THERE'S ALL THESE INSPECTIONS WHEN IT'S GONE SIX MONTHS, BY THE TIME WE GET MOVING AND DO ANYTHING ON IT, IT'LL BE AT EIGHT MONTHS.

AND BY THE TIME WE GET ANY RESOLUTION, IT'LL BE A YEAR AND A HALF.

YEAH. SO HOW ABOUT WE JUST GO WITH SIX MONTHS AND GET OFF OUR DUFF AND DO OUR JOBS? WELL THERE'S THAT, BUT BUT SIX MONTHS IS DO THE MAINTENANCE DO DO THE UPGRADE MAINTENANCE ON IT.

SO YOU GIVE THEM 12 MONTHS TO GET IT RIGHT BECAUSE YOU JUST GOT YOUR ANNUAL MONITORING REPORT.

IT'S NOT GOOD. WE'LL WORK WITH THEM.

YEAH. WELL BUT THEY'RE GOING TO WORK ON A CORRECTION.

IT'S WHEN THEY ABANDON.

WHEN YOU SAY ABANDON, I PICTURE SOMEBODY WALKING AWAY FROM A PROJECT THAT'S ABANDONMENT FOR US TO BE ABLE TO TAKE ACTION AFTER THAT SIX MONTHS. WE NEED TO DO IT QUICKLY BECAUSE OF THE TYPE OF EQUIPMENT AND THINGS WE'RE TALKING ABOUT.

YEAH, YOU MAY NEED A FEW MONTHS TO SORT OF TO GET YOUR YOUR PLAN, YOUR PROGRAM AND YOU KNOW, MAN THE TEAM.

YEAH. SO I DON'T WANT TO WAIT A YEAR AND THEN HAVE TO WAIT ANOTHER SIX MONTHS.

AND SO AS WRITTEN, YOU CAN STEP IN WITHIN SIX MONTHS IF YOU HAVE A NON-PERFORMING.

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SO IT SOUNDS LIKE WE'RE GOOD THERE.

YES. OKAY.

I WANT TO GO TO PAGE.

I WANTED TO ADDRESS THE CONCERN THAT SUPERVISOR OBERG RAISED REGARDING RECLAMATION FOR THE THE ACTUAL TRANSMISSION LINES.

IT WAS A GOOD QUESTION, AND I APOLOGIZE.

I COULDN'T RECALL WHERE IN THE ORDINANCE THAT WAS ADDRESSED.

SO I'M JUST GOING TO READ WHAT WE HAVE.

SO OUR FACILITY USE PERMIT THIS IS UNDER SECTION M DECOMMISSIONING RECLAMATION.

THE SOLAR FACILITY USE PERMIT SHALL INCLUDE THE SUBMISSION OF A DETAILED DECOMMISSIONING PLAN AS DESCRIBED IN SECTION D ONE, PRIOR TO THE ISSUANCE OF CONSTRUCTION PERMITS.

THE COST ESTIMATE FOR THE COMPLETE REMOVAL OF NON-OPERATIONAL ABOVE AND BELOW BELOW GROUND IMPROVEMENTS MUST BE SUBMITTED AND FINANCIAL ASSURANCE MUST BE POSTED.

M1. THIS GETS TO THE QUESTION.

DECOMMISSIONING PLAN. THE DECOMMISSIONING PLAN WILL ADDRESS THE FOLLOWING ITEMS. ALL PHYSICAL IMPROVEMENTS, MATERIALS AND EQUIPMENT RELATED TO SOLAR ENERGY GENERATION, TRANSMISSION AND SOLAR MUST BE REMOVED FROM THE SURFACE AND THE SUBSURFACE TO A MINIMUM DEPTH OF 48IN.

SO THEN IT GOES. IT GOES ON AND ON.

BUT THE SWEET SPOT IS THAT, YES, THAT INCLUDES THE TRANSMISSION LINE.

SO IF THOSE IF IF THAT INFRASTRUCTURE IS NO LONGER GOING TO BE USED, IT'S GOT TO GO.

THERE'S PROBABLY MANY CASES THAT THE OPERATOR OR ANOTHER OPERATOR IS GOING TO TO ASK COME BEFORE YOU TO RENEW THAT.

BUT YOU CAN MANDATE IT'S GOT TO GO.

THAT'S IN THE ORDINANCE. OKAY.

I'M GOOD WITH THAT. GOOD.

WERE THERE ANY OTHER ITEMS THAT I MAY HAVE MISSED, OR THAT YOU HEARD FROM THE PUBLIC DURING THE PUBLIC PORTION THAT YOU'D LIKE ME TO TO ADDRESS OR VISIT? I WOULD LIKE A SYNOPSIS OF SOME OF THOSE STATEMENTS BECAUSE THEY WERE THEY WERE POWERFUL, BUT I'M NOT SURE I CAPTURED THEM ALL.

SO AS SOON AS WE CAN HEAR THAT OR READ IT, THEN I CAN BETTER ANSWER THAT QUESTION.

SO, MATT, SO WHEN WE GO FORWARD FROM HERE.

SO NOW WHAT? WAIT, WAIT.

WE WENT WENT THROUGH THE ISSUES.

TOLD YOU DIRECTION.

DO YOU COME BACK AND PUT THOSE INTO A FINAL FINAL POLICY.

AND THEN WE COME BACK.

WE DISCUSS IT AGAIN AND THEN WE APPROVE IT.

YEAH. AND I DO NOT BELIEVE THAT AT THIS POINT IT WOULD HAVE TO GO BACK BEFORE THE PNC, BUT I WOULD DEFER TO COUNCIL ON SOME OF THESE QUESTIONS.

MARTIN? YES, CHAIR.

MEMBERS OF THE BOARD? NO. I BELIEVE THE PLAN IS SIMPLY TO PUT TOGETHER THE PROPOSED AMENDMENT TO PUBLISH IT AND THEN BRING IT BACK TO THIS BOARD, AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE DOING RIGHT NOW. AND THEN PUBLISH IT AND THEN GET IT BACK.

RIGHT. THE PROPOSED THE AMENDMENTS TO THE PROPOSED ORDINANCE WILL BE PUBLISHED IN ADVANCE OF A HEARING, WHICH I UNDERSTAND WILL BE SET 60 DAYS OUT BACK IN PRESCOTT, AND THEN THE BOARD WOULD VOTE ON IT AT THAT TIME.

THIS BOARD WILL VOTE ON IT AT THAT TIME.

WE HAVE TO HOLD IT HERE.

THAT'S NOVEMBER.

WELL, THAT'S THE QUICKEST WE CAN GET IT DONE.

I MEAN, THAT'S THE PROCESS.

GIVE ME THE INFORMATION.

YEAH. THE OCTOBER DATE IS LESS THAN 30 DAYS OUT.

I'M JUST NOT SURE THEY WOULD BE ABLE TO MEET THAT DATE.

NO, IT'S NOT REASONABLE.

YEAH, AND I DON'T HAVE THE CALENDAR IN FRONT OF ME, BUT I WOULD BE CONCERNED THAT WE MIGHT BLOW PAST THAT DATE.

AND THIS ASSURES MORE TIME FOR THE PUBLIC TO BE ENGAGED.

GO TO OUR WEBSITE RATHER THAN YOU PUBLISH YOUR POST.

AND IT'S LIKE THE PUBLIC ONLY HAS, LIKE, YOU KNOW, A WEEK TO GO ONLINE AND LOOK AT THE CHANGES.

SO THIS YOU'RE COVERING THAT BASE OF AND WE'LL HAVE SIX PUBLIC HEARINGS ON, ON THE ORDINANCE AND THEN WE'LL, WE'LL GET INTO THE GUINNESS BOOK.

YES. WHICH IS GOOD.

WE WANT TO DO THAT. WE WANT TO DO THAT.

THANK YOU MATT. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU. DRINK YOUR WATER.

WELL THANK YOU MATT.

THAT WAS A LOT OF WORK.

AND THANK YOU, SUSAN.

IT WAS A LOT OF WORK.

THANK YOU. WE GO THROUGH THIS, WE WOULD HAVE NEVER GOT IT DONE.

YEAH. OKAY.

THAT'S WHY YOU MAKE THE BIG BUCKS.

OKAY. IS EVERYBODY CLEAR ON WHAT WE'RE GOING TO BE DOING ON THIS? SEE ALL THESE SMILING FACES, I WONDER? SO OKAY, BASICALLY THEY'RE GOING TO GO BACK AND MAKE THE CHANGES, AND THEN WE'RE GOING TO COME BACK AND HAVE A HEARING ON IT IN NOVEMBER AND VOTE ON IT AT THAT POINT IN TIME. THAT PRETTY MUCH SUMS IT UP, DOES IT NOT? OKAY. SO IN THE MEANTIME, IF SOMETHING SHOULD COME UP.

FILE AN APPLICATION AND WE'LL TALK IN THREE MONTHS, SO HOPEFULLY THAT WON'T BE THE CASE.

BUT YOU NEVER KNOW WHAT'S GOING TO COME FORWARD.

BUT WE KNOW THAT NOW WE HAVE THE APPROVAL OF YOU FOLKS AS WELL AS OUR OWN THOUGHTS UPON THE MATTERS.

AND I THINK WE'RE ALL PRETTY MUCH SEEING THE SAME THING.

SO WITH THAT, I'M GOING TO GO TO CALL THE PUBLIC.

ANYBODY WANTS TO ADDRESS THE BOARD FOR UP TO THREE MINUTES ON ANY RELEVANT ISSUE WITHIN THE BOARD'S JURISDICTION.

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38 431 01H.

BOARD MEMBERS SHALL NOT DISCUSS OR TAKE ACTION ON THESE MATTERS RAISED DURING CALL TO THE PUBLIC.

THE BOARD MAY DIRECT STAFF TO STUDY THE MATTER, OR DIRECT THAT THE MATTER BE RESCHEDULED FOR CONSIDERATION AT A LATER DATE.

ANYBODY WANTS TO TALK TO US ABOUT ANYTHING? THANK YOU.

THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT, THEN WE'RE MOVE INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION.

[ EXECUTIVE SESSION]

VERY PATIENT. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU. IT'S THE LONGEST ONE WE'VE HAD.

WE'RE BACK FROM EXECUTIVE SESSION AND IT IS 3:36 P.M.

AND MOVING FORWARD.

[ EXECUTIVE SESSION FOLLOW-UP ACTION]

YOU KNOW, REQUIRED REGARDING THE CONTRACT WITH CABLE ONE AND STAFF HAS BEEN GIVEN DIRECTION.

AND SO WE'LL PROCEED FROM THERE UNTIL NEXT MEETING.

ITEM NUMBER TWO.

IS THERE A MOTION? YES, CHAIRMAN. I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION.

MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE ENTERING INTO A COUNTY MANAGER EMPLOYMENT AGREEMENT WITH MAURI THOMPSON, SETTING A SALARY OF $257,324 PER YEAR, WITH AUTOMOBILE AND PHONE ALLOWANCE, AND ALLOWING FOR SIX MONTHS SEVERANCE IF THOMPSON'S CONTRACT IS TERMINATED WITHOUT CAUSE.

THOMPSON SHALL RECEIVE OTHER BENEFITS AS CURRENTLY OFFERED TO OTHER COUNTY EMPLOYEES.

THE AGREEMENT SHALL BE EFFECTIVE THROUGH DECEMBER 21ST, 2025.

SECOND. SECOND BY MISS MICHAELS.

COULD I HAVE A ROLL CALL? VOTE, PLEASE. CHAIRMAN BROWN.

NO. VICE CHAIR MICHAELS.

AYE. SUPERVISOR.

OBERG. AYE.

SUPERVISOR. GREGORY.

AYE. SUPERVISOR.

MALLORY. YES.

THE MOTION PASSES 4 TO 1.

THANK YOU. WITH THAT, WE'RE IN ADJOURNMENT.

WE CAN'T GO JUST A LITTLE BIT.

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.