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MORNING, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, THIS IS THE AUGUST 21ST MEETING OF THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS OF YAVAPAI COUNTY.

[ CALL TO ORDER]

LIST ALL ITEMS AS POTENTIAL ACTION ITEM ON OUR AGENDA.

UNLESS OTHERWISE NOTED, THE ORDER OF ITEMS MAY BE MODIFIED AT THE MEETING.

NOTE ONE OR MORE BOARD MEMBERS MAY BE ATTENDING TELEPHONICALLY OR VIRTUALLY.

BOARD MEMBERS ATTENDING TELEPHONICALLY OR VIRTUALLY WILL BE ANNOUNCED AT THE MEETING AND PURSUANT TO ARS 38-431.03A3, THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS MAY VOTE TO GO INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION FOR THE PURPOSE OF OBTAINING LEGAL ADVICE WITH RESPECT TO ANY ITEM LISTED ON THE AGENDA.

EXCUSE ME. CITIZENS ARE ENCOURAGED TO WATCH THE MEETING VIRTUALLY AT WWW.YAVAPAIAZ.GOV /MEETINGS, THE PUBLIC WILL HAVE PHYSICAL ACCESS TO THE MEETING LOCATION 15 MINUTES PRIOR TO THE MEETING.

WRITTEN COMMENTS OR CURRENT AGENDA ITEMS WILL BE RECEIVED BY THE CLERK OF THE BOARD AT CLERKOFTHEBOARD.WEB@YAVAPAI.GOV 2 4 HOURS PRIOR TO THE BOARD MEETING.

CALL THE MEETING TO ORDER AND I WILL LEAD THE INVOCATION AND SUPERVISOR MICHAELS PARDON ME.

YES. SUPERVISOR MICHAELS WILL LEAD US IN THE PLEDGE.

DEAR HEAVENLY FATHER, THANK YOU FOR BRINGING US TOGETHER TODAY.

GIVE US THE WISDOM TO MAKE THE CORRECT DECISIONS ON THESE ISSUES THAT ARE BEFORE US, AND WATCH OVER ALL OF OUR MEN AND WOMEN IN UNIFORM, ESPECIALLY THOSE THAT ARE BEING RECENTLY DEPLOYED TO THE MIDDLE EAST.

SO IN YOUR NAME, AMEN.

PLEASE JOIN ME IN THE PLEDGE.

I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS.

ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.

THE CLERK OF THE BOARD, CALL THE ROLL, PLEASE.

YOU HAVE A QUORUM.

JUST FOR THE NOTE, SUPERVISOR MALLORY IS ATTENDING VIRTUALLY.

[ CONSENT AGENDA (Routine items that may all be approved by one motion.) ALL ITEMS ON THE CONSENT AGENDA WERE UNANIMOUSLY APPROVED, WITH THE EXCEPTION OF ITEM 30.]

MOVING ON TO CONSENT AGENDA.

I ONLY HAVE ONE ITEM INDICATED TO BE PULLED, AND THAT'S ITEM NUMBER 30.

DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANYTHING ELSE? NO. NEGATIVE.

NO, NO. MARY, ANYTHING YOU WANT TO PULL? NO, SIR. OKAY.

THANK YOU.

I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA ITEMS. ALL EXCEPT ITEM NUMBER 30.

SO MOVED. I DIDN'T MOVE.

I'LL SECOND IT.

THERE YOU GO. MOVED BY MISS MICHAELS AND SECONDED BY MISS MALLORY.

ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. OKAY.

[30. Sheriff - Approve agreement with YouTurn, LLC (Youturn Health, Inc.), through a sole source procurement, in an amount not to exceed $292,500.00, for peer coaching and re-entry services for individuals released from incarceration at Yavapai County Detention Facilities. YC Contract No. 2024-398]

MOVING DOWN TO ITEM NUMBER 30.

SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT APPROVE AGREEMENT WITH YOUTURN, LLC.

YOUTH HEALTH INCORPORATED THROUGH A SOLE SOURCE.

PROCUREMENT IN THE AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED $292,500 FOR PEER COACHING AND REENTRY SERVICES FOR INDIVIDUALS RELEASED FROM INCARCERATION AT YAVAPAI COUNTY DETENTION FACILITIES.

IT'S UNDER CONTRACT NUMBER 2024-398.

THE REASON I PULLED THIS IS BECAUSE I BELIEVE THIS IS OFF OF A GRANT.

AM I CORRECT? WHY DON'T YOU INTRODUCE YOURSELF? I'M SORRY. JEFF. NO PROBLEM.

GOOD MORNING, BOARD.

MR. CHAIRMAN, MEMBERS OF THE BOARD.

JEFF NEWNUM, CHIEF DEPUTY FOR THE YAVAPAI COUNTY SHERIFF'S OFFICE HERE REPRESENTING SHERIFF DAVID RHODES.

OKAY. WE ENTERED INTO RECEIVING A GRANT, I BELIEVE, BACK IN MAY FOR A SPECIFIC AMOUNT OF MONEY.

DO YOU KNOW HOW MUCH THAT MONEY WAS? 292,000 SAME AS THE AGENDA ITEM.

OKAY, AND SO IT WAS SPECIFICALLY FOR THIS TASK.

THAT'S CORRECT. OKAY.

IN READING THE CONTRACT, I FOUND A COUPLE OF THINGS THAT I NEEDED.

I HAD QUESTIONS ON.

NOW THIS IS ONLY FOR A FOUR MONTH PERIOD, AM I CORRECT? WELL, MR. CHAIRMAN, YOU'RE CORRECT AS OF TODAY.

IT EXPIRES IN DECEMBER.

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THIS GRANT ACTUALLY BEGAN IN MAY OF 2021, WHEN IT BECAME AWARE TO US THAT THIS OPPORTUNITY WAS COMING IN THROUGH THE COSAP GRANT, AND SO AT THAT PERIOD OF TIME, ACJC IN JUNE OF 2021 ACTUALLY GOT A LETTER OF RECOMMENDATION FROM THE ARIZONA SHERIFFS ASSOCIATION AND MOVED FORWARD WITH SEEKING THE FUNDS FROM THE COSAP GRANT.

THEY WERE AWARDED THOSE FUNDS.

THE PROBLEM THAT WE RAN INTO WAS THAT THE MONEY, THE APPLICATION PROCESS TO RECEIVE THIS MONEY DIDN'T OPEN UP UNTIL DECEMBER OF 2023 FOR US, AND SO WE PUT IN FOR THE MONEY SPECIFIC TO THIS PROGRAM AND THEN LEARNED LATER IN 2024 THAT IT WAS ACTUALLY AWARDED.

WE WERE TOLD BY ACJC THAT THEY ARE GOING THEY ARE ACTIVELY SEEKING AN EXTENSION FOR THIS GRANT TO EXTEND IT PAST DECEMBER, BUT WE HAVE NOT WE HAVE NOT BEEN TOLD WHETHER OR NOT THEY'VE BEEN SUCCESSFUL WITH THAT.

OKAY, AND THIS CONTRACT BASICALLY, I FOUND A COUPLE OF INTERESTING THINGS ABOUT IT, SINCE IT'S ONLY FOR FOUR MONTHS AND WE'RE PAYING THEM 292,000 PLUS DOLLARS, YOU KNOW, THAT'S A LOT OF MONEY OVER THE COURSE OF THAT SHORT PERIOD, BUT OBVIOUSLY THIS IS GOING TO ALSO PICK UP THE ARREARS FROM WHAT YOU'RE SAYING? NO, NO, MR. CHAIRMAN. SO IN THOSE FOUR MONTHS WE'RE ONLY GOING TO BE PAYING THIS COMPANY IF THE BOARD AGREES TO MOVE FORWARD $6,200 A MONTH, AND SO WE PAY THEM $6,200.

WELL, IT'S AT $6,250 A MONTH FOR THE PROGRAM, AND THEN IT'S $250 FOR EVERY INMATE THAT'S ENROLLED IN THE PROGRAM.

SO WE WON'T WE WON'T EVEN COME CLOSE TO PAYING $292,000 IN FOUR MONTHS.

IF IT GETS EXTENDED THAT PERIOD OF TIME THAT IT'S EXTENDED.

THE PROGRAM ITSELF WILL WILL MOVE FORWARD, AND I THINK THAT IF WHEN THIS CAME OUT AGAIN, THIS PROGRAM COULD HAVE STARTED IN 2021, AND THEN WE COULD HAVE COME CLOSE TO EXPENDING $292,000 BY DECEMBER OF 2024, BUT WE WILL NOT WE WILL NOT BE SPENDING THAT MONEY IN FOUR MONTHS.

IT WILL HAVE TO GET EXTENDED, AND THAT'S WHAT ACJC [INAUDIBLE].

WE DIDN'T HAVE THE FACILITY YET AT THAT TIME.

CORRECT? WELL, WE AT THAT POINT IN TIME, WE WERE CURRENTLY UNDER CONSTRUCTION FOR THE CONNECTION CENTER, BUT THIS PROGRAM ACTUALLY, WHAT'S UNIQUE ABOUT THIS PROGRAM IS ONE OF THE CHALLENGES THAT WE ALWAYS HAVE AT THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE AND THROUGH OUR STAKEHOLDERS WITH THE MENTAL HEALTH COALITION, THE CRIMINAL JUSTICE PARTNERS THAT WE HAVE IS TO KEEP THE INMATES ENGAGED ONCE THEY'RE RELEASED TO THE WARM HANDOFF.

WHAT THIS PROGRAM DOES IS IT STARTS WHILE THEY'RE IN CUSTODY.

THERE'S PROGRAMING, THERE'S PEER COACHING FOR THEM ON THE INMATE TABLETS.

THAT'S SPECIFIC TO WHATEVER THEIR RISK FACTOR IS.

MOST OF THE TIME IT'S SUBSTANCE ABUSE OR COULD BE DEPRESSION, SUICIDAL TENDENCIES, THOSE TYPES OF THINGS.

IT ENGAGES THAT INMATE WHILE THEY'RE IN CUSTODY, AND THAT PEER COACHING THEN TRANSFERS OUT AND STAYS WITH THEM WHILE THEY'RE OUT OF CUSTODY, AND THAT'S ONE OF THE BIGGEST CHALLENGES THAT WE'VE HAD.

IS THAT BRIDGING THE GAP BETWEEN THEM WHILE THEY'RE IN CUSTODY AND OUT OF CUSTODY? BECAUSE IN ORDER FOR SOMEONE TO BE SUCCESSFUL AND STAY ENGAGED WITH THE TREATMENT THAT WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO PROVIDE AND RECOMMEND AND DO WARM HANDOFFS, WE HAVE TO KEEP THEM ENGAGED LIKE THEY HAVE TO DO THEIR PART AND ACTUALLY PARTICIPATE.

THAT'S WHAT THIS PROGRAM CAN DO THROUGH PEER COACHING AS PEOPLE, MOTIVATING THEM, OFFERING THEM RESOURCES AND KEEPING THEM GOING DOWN THE PATH THAT THEY SHOULD BE GOING DOWN TO KIND OF MITIGATE THAT DESTRUCTIVE LIFESTYLE THAT MAY HAVE GOTTEN THEM IN TROUBLE.

IS THERE SOME TYPE OF A RISK ASSESSMENT TOOL THAT YOU'RE USING TO DETERMINE WHO'S GOING TO BE IN THIS PROGRAM? ABSOLUTELY. SO EVERY INMATE THAT COMES INTO CUSTODY, NO MATTER WHAT YOUR CHARGE IS, IT COULD BE FOR DRIVING ON A SUSPENDED LICENSE.

IT COULD BE FOR FIRST DEGREE MURDER.

SOME OF THOSE FOLKS ARE NOT ELIGIBLE TO GET OUT, OBVIOUSLY.

I MEAN, WE SEND PROBABLY 50 TO 70 INMATES A MONTH TO DOC, AND THAT'S WHERE THEY NEED TO BE GOING, BUT THOSE INMATES THAT WE KNOW ARE GETTING OUT, BEING RELEASED TO THE COMMUNITY, EVERYBODY'S RISK ASSESSMENT IS BEING DONE ON EVERY INMATE, AND THAT RISK ASSESSMENT IDENTIFIES THOSE CERTAIN BEHAVIORS THAT ARE THAT ARE GERMANE TO THEM ALONE, AND SO AND THEN WE'RE ABLE TO REACH OUT TO THE STAKEHOLDERS AND LOOK AT WHAT RESOURCES MIGHT BE AVAILABLE FOR THAT INDIVIDUAL THAT'S GOING TO BE GETTING OUT INTO OUR COMMUNITIES, AND SO THAT RISK ASSESSMENT IS USED BY THE RELEASE COORDINATORS, THE INMATE SERVICES COORDINATORS, THE INSTRUCTIONAL SPECIALISTS, AND MANY OTHER PROGRAMS THAT WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO IMPLEMENT IN THE JAIL, BUT THIS WILL BE ONE WHERE THEY CAN KIND OF GO DOWN A PATH THAT'S SPECIFIC TO THEMSELVES ON

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THEIR NEEDS AND PEER COACHING PEER COACHES THAT HAVE BEEN INVOLVED IN THAT TYPE OF BEHAVIOR AND THAT PATH COME ALONGSIDE THEM AND HELP THEM ON THEIR THE NEXT SEASON OF THEIR LIFE AS THEY GET OUT OF JAIL.

SO THIS WILL BE DONE BY RISK ASSESSMENT, AND WE'RE GOING TO TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION WHETHER THEY'RE EMPLOYED AND OR HAVE GOOD RESIDENTIAL CREDENTIALS AND WHETHER THEY'VE EVER BEEN ARRESTED FOR VIOLENT OFFENSES IN THE PAST.

WE WANT TO KEEP THE SAFETY OF THE COMMUNITY AS THE MOST IMPORTANT THING.

ABSOLUTELY. YOU KNOW, AND THIS IS THESE ARE THESE ARE PROGRAMS FOR INMATES THAT WILL BE GETTING OUT OF CUSTODY, WHETHER WE WHETHER WE LINK THEM TO CARE AND DEAL WITH THEIR RISKS OR WHETHER WE DON'T, THEY'RE GOING TO BE GETTING OUT INTO OUR COMMUNITIES.

THAT'S WHAT JAIL IS.

IT'S THAT FIRST LEVEL OF PRETRIAL, IF YOU WILL HOLDINGS AND RELEASE, AND SO THEY'RE GOING TO BE GETTING OUT IF WE CAN IDENTIFY THEIR RISK AND HELP THEM ADDRESS THOSE RISKS.

THAT'S WHAT LOWERS RECIDIVISM, AND ONE OF THE MAIN, ONE OF THE MAIN STATISTICS THAT I ALWAYS LOOK AT IN MY POSITION IS INMATE BOOKINGS, AND SO WHEN WE BEFORE WE STARTED ALL THESE PROGRAMS IN 2016, WE AVERAGED ABOUT 10 TO 12,000 BOOKINGS A YEAR INTO OUR FACILITY.

ALL OF THESE PROGRAMS, WE'VE DROPPED THAT DOWN TO 6000 BOOKINGS A YEAR, BETWEEN 6 AND 7000 BOOKINGS A YEAR.

THAT'S TREMENDOUS.

THAT'S NOT ONLY LOWERED OUR JAIL POPULATION, BUT WHAT THAT TELLS ME, IS THAT PEOPLE THAT ARE GETTING OUT OF JAIL FOR LOW LEVEL OFFENSES ARE LESS LIKELY TO REOFFEND AND VICTIMIZE PEOPLE IF THEY'RE STAYING ENGAGED IN THIS TREATMENT; IT MAKES OUR COMMUNITY SAFER.

OKAY. THESE PEOPLE THAT WERE RELEASING WE'RE ASSUMING ARE NOT GOING TO BE A DANGER TO THE COMMUNITY.

OH, YEAH, BUT HERE'S WE DON'T DECIDE.

THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE HAS NO DECISION MAKING MECHANISM TO DECIDE WHO GETS OUT OF JAIL AND WHO STAYS IN JAIL.

THAT'S COMPLETELY UP TO THE COURTS AND THE JUDGES.

SO THIS IS ALL POST COURT APPEARANCE? NOT NECESSARILY. YOU HAVE A LOT OF PRETRIAL PRE-COURT PEOPLE THAT ARE GETTING OUT ON BOND.

SO THE JUDGE SETS THE BONDS, AND IF THE INMATE CAN AFFORD THE BOND, THEY'RE BONDING OUT OF JAIL.

A LOT OF THEM ARE GETTING OUT ON THEIR OWN RECOGNIZANCE.

SO IT CAN BE PRETRIAL AND OR [INAUDIBLE].

ABSOLUTELY, ABSOLUTELY.

NOW, THE EQUIPMENT THAT'S GIVEN TO THESE INDIVIDUALS IS SUPPLIED BY THE COMPANY.

I'M ASSUMING FROM WHAT WE'RE LOOKING.

RIGHT, IT'S JUST AN APP.

SO WHEN THEY'RE IN THE FACILITY, THERE'RE CERTAIN TABLETS THAT WE SUPPLY TO THE INMATES FOR PROGRAMS. COULD BE THEY'RE GETTING THEIR GED, IT COULD BE SUBSTANCE ABUSE TREATMENT, IT COULD BE MORAL RECOGNITION THERAPY, WHICH HELPS THEM IDENTIFY AND TAKE RESPONSIBILITY FOR THEIR OWN ACTIONS.

THOSE ARE THE TABLETS THAT WE USE TO EDUCATE AND MOVE THOSE PROGRAMS FORWARD.

THE APP WILL BE PLACED ON THAT TABLET FOR THEM TO USE WHEN THEY GET OUT.

THEY WILL HAVE ACCESS TO THAT APP THROUGH A MOBILE DEVICE.

WE DON'T PROVIDE THOSE MOBILE DEVICES, BUT THE APP WILL BE AVAILABLE TO THEM.

WHO PROVIDES THE MOBILE DEVICE THEN? I THINK THAT THERE'S MANY OF THE, MANY OF THE INMATES WILL HAVE THEIR OWN MOBILE DEVICE, AND THERE'S PROBABLY PROGRAMS THROUGH OTHER STAKEHOLDERS THAT WILL HELP THEM ATTAIN A MOBILE DEVICE BUT IT'S NOT THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE THAT'S PURCHASING THE MOBILE DEVICE.

SO IT'S OWN AND/OR BY SOMEBODY THAT CAN PROVIDE THAT SERVICE? CORRECT. SO WILL THEY BE TAKING THE TABLETS WITH THEM FROM OUT OF THE JAIL? NO, SIR. NO, SIR.

THOSE TABLETS BELONG TO THE COUNTY.

I WAS WONDERING HOW WE WERE GOING TO GET THEM RETURNED.

THEY RETURN THEM EVERY DAY.

IT'S NOT A QUESTION.

ONCE THEY ARE OUTSIDE THE JAIL SYSTEM.

OKAY. I GOT YOU. YEAH.

OKAY.

CORRECT. WHO DO WE REPORT THE VIOLATIONS TO? IF THE PERSON IS NOT RESPONDING TO THE--TO THIS PROGRAM.

SO THIS PROGRAM IS COMPLETELY VOLUNTARY.

NOW, I'D VENTURE TO GUESS, I GUESS THE PROBATION DEPARTMENT OR PRETRIAL SERVICES OR OR THE COURTS COULD ORDER THEM TO PARTICIPATE.

THAT'S OUTSIDE OF OUR PURVIEW AT THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE, BUT IF THEY WERE ORDERED TO PARTICIPATE IN THIS PROGRAM, FOR INSTANCE, BY THEIR PROBATION OFFICER OR THE COURTS, AND THEY THEY DID NOT, THE COMPANY WOULD PROBABLY REPORT THAT DIRECTLY TO THE PROBATION DEPARTMENT OR THE COURTS, AND THEN THEY WOULD DECIDE WHETHER OR NOT THEY'RE GOING TO VIOLATE THEM. THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE HAS NO DESIRE TO GET INVOLVED IN THAT.

WHAT THIS IS, IS IT'S A TRULY VOLUNTARY PROGRAM THAT PEOPLE CAN ENGAGE IN TO HELP THEM ON THEIR OWN PATH OF RECOVERY.

SO WHAT ARE WE CONSIDERING THE GUIDELINES FOR BEING A SUCCESS OR FAILURE?

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THE GUIDELINES I ALWAYS LOOK BACK TO IS THE RECIDIVISM RATE AND WE HAVE THIRD PARTY ENTITIES SUCH AS NAU THAT COME IN AND LOOK AT OUR DATA.

WE DO NOT TELL THEM ANYTHING ABOUT HOW WE DO IT OR WHY WE DO IT, OR WHAT THE DATA MEANS.

WE SIMPLY GIVE THEM THE DATA.

THEY LOOK AT THE INMATES BEING RELEASED, THEY LOOK AT THE CHARGES, AND THEY LOOK AT THOSE SPECIFIC INMATES WITHIN A CERTAIN PERIOD OF TIME TO SEE IF THEY COMMIT NEW CRIMINAL CHARGES, NOT NOT ENACTMENTS FOR VIOLATING THEIR PROBATION OR ANYTHING ELSE, BUT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT NEW CRIMINAL CHARGES FOR AN INDIVIDUAL.

THE SUCCESS RATE FOR ME, WHEN YOU LOOK AT INDIVIDUALS COMMITTING NEW CRIMINAL CHARGES BACK IN 2016, WE'RE TALKING 39 TO 40% OF ALL OF OUR INMATES RECIDIVATED AND COMMITTED A NEW CRIMINAL CHARGE.

IF YOU SUFFERED FROM MENTAL HEALTH, THAT WAS UP TO 80%.

IF YOU HAD A MENTAL HEALTH DISORDER AND YOU WERE IN OUR JAIL 80% OF THE TIME, YOU WERE COMMITTING A NEW CRIMINAL CHARGE THAT WAS FILED.

NOW BECAUSE OF THESE PROGRAMS, AND THIS COULD BE PART OF WHAT WE'RE DOING, BUT WE HAVEN'T STARTED THIS YET, BUT BECAUSE OF OUR PROGRAMS LIKE THIS, OUR RECIDIVISM RATE NOW, THIS YEAR, LAST YEAR, WE HOVER BETWEEN 16 AND 19% FOR YAVAPAI COUNTY.

THAT'S NOT OUR NUMBER.

THAT'S A NUMBER THAT A THIRD PARTY HAS COME IN AND DECIDED, LOOKED AT OUR DATA ON WHO'S GETTING OUT AND THE CRIMINAL FILINGS AND EVERYTHING ELSE AND SAID 19 OR LESS PERCENT OF YOUR INMATES ARE COMMITTING NEW CRIMINAL CHARGES.

THAT IS DRASTICALLY LOWER THAN IT WAS FIVE YEARS AGO, AND SO THAT TO ME IS THE SUCCESS RATE, AND THAT'S WHY WE CONTINUE TO LOOK AT PROGRAMS THAT ARE OFFERED TO US TO ALLOW THE INMATES TO PARTICIPATE IN THOSE.

NOW, THESE ARE LOW LEVEL OFFENDERS.

I THERE'S ANOTHER PART OF ME AS A COP FOR 30 YEARS THAT SAYS THERE ARE CERTAIN PEOPLE THAT WE'RE GOING TO ARREST.

WE'RE GOING TO TAKE OUT OF SOCIETY, AND THEY'RE NOT GETTING BACK.

WE'RE SENDING THEM TO DOC.

THAT'S WHERE THEY BELONG.

WE'RE TALKING ABOUT.

WE'RE TALKING ABOUT PEOPLE THAT ARE COMMITTING THEIR FIRST, SECOND OFFENSE.

THEY'RE LOW LEVEL, AND IF WE CAN ENGAGE IN THEM AT THE EARLIEST POSSIBLE POINT AND DIVERT THEM FROM THAT DESTRUCTIVE PATH, THAT'S WHERE WE SEE THE SUCCESS RATE.

THAT'S WHERE THEY'RE LESS LIKELY.

I'M GLAD YOU SAID THAT, BECAUSE A LOT OF THE COMMUNITY IS GOING TO BE PAYING STRICT ATTENTION TO WHO IS BEING INVOLVED IN BEING RELEASED OUT OF THIS PROGRAM, BECAUSE THEY'RE VERY CONCERNED FOR THE SAFETY OF THE AREAS.

WELL, JUST THINK ABOUT IT THIS WAY, MR. CHAIRMAN. IF YOU HAVE A NEIGHBOR THAT COMMITS A CRIME AND THEY COME INTO JAIL, AND THAT NEIGHBOR IS MAYBE THEY'RE COMMITTING TRESPASSING OR THEY'RE DISORDERLY, OR MAYBE THEY HAVE ANGER ISSUES.

MAYBE THEY HAVE SUBSTANCE ABUSE ISSUES, AND THEY GO INTO JAIL, AND NOW THEY'RE IN THE CRIMINAL JUSTICE SYSTEM.

THAT INMATE, THAT INDIVIDUAL IS GOING TO COME BACK TO BE YOUR NEIGHBOR.

THAT'S WITHOUT QUESTION.

UNLESS THEY'VE COMMITTED A SERIOUS FELONY THAT'S GOING TO SEND THEM TO PRISON AND THE JUDGE SENDS THEM TO PRISON.

DO YOU WANT THAT NEIGHBOR? DO YOU WANT YOUR NEIGHBOR CONNECTED TO CARE, TO TRY TO DEAL WITH THOSE RISK FACTORS, TRY TO DEAL WITH THEIR ANGER MANAGEMENT, THEIR SUBSTANCE ABUSE SO THEY'RE NOT ASSAULTING THEIR FAMILY, MAYBE INSIDE THEIR HOME? OR DO YOU WANT THEM TO JUST COME BACK AND STAY STATUS QUO? AND SO THAT'S THE WAY I LOOK AT IT IS HOW DO WE KEEP OUR QUALITY OF LIFE AND YAVAPAI COUNTY STRONG TO WHERE PEOPLE WANT TO MOVE HERE? WELL, YOU ONLY HAVE A GOOD QUALITY OF LIFE IN YAVAPAI COUNTY THROUGH STRONG PUBLIC SAFETY.

PUBLIC SAFETY, IN MY OPINION, NOT ONLY DEALS WITH A GOOD, STRONG LAW ENFORCEMENT PRESENCE WHERE WE INVESTIGATE CRIMES AND WE HAVE A GREAT SOLVABILITY FACTOR, AND WE'RE SENDING PEOPLE TO WHERE THEY NEED TO GO, BUT IT ALSO DEALS WITH GOOD STAKEHOLDERS AND GOOD PARTNERS THAT WE ENTER INTO, SO WE CAN OFFER THE RESOURCES TO MAKE PEOPLE SUCCESSFUL, THE ONES THAT HAVE MADE A MISTAKE AND WE MAKE THEM SUCCESSFUL, THEY'RE LESS LIKELY TO REOFFEND, AND SO IT ALL TO ME, IT ALL WORKS TOGETHER, AND THIS IS THIS PROGRAM HERE IS ONE OF THE PROGRAMS THAT WE'VE IDENTIFIED THAT HAS A POSSIBILITY TO HELP US DO THAT.

WELL, AND I APPRECIATE THAT AS PART OF THE REASON WHY I PULLED SOME OF THESE ITEMS IS SO WE CAN EXPLAIN TO THE PUBLIC WHAT IT'S ALL ABOUT, KIND OF NIP IT IN THE BUD BEFORE PEOPLE START SENDING OUT RUMORS AND OR HEARSAY ABOUT WHAT A PROGRAM IS ALL ABOUT.

SO BASICALLY WE'RE SAYING THIS IS A PROGRAM BEING FUNDED BY GRANT MONEY, AND WE'VE HAD IT FOR SOME TIME.

WE'VE EXPLORED IT, AND BASICALLY WE HAVE A PLAN IN EFFECT, AND IT'S FOR LOW RISK OFFENDERS.

IT'S FOR THOSE THAT QUALIFY.

THERE YOU GO. SO I APPRECIATE THAT.

THANKS VERY MUCH, JEFF, AND MR. CHAIRMAN, IF I MAY, JUST TACK ON ONE OTHER COMPONENT OF THIS, WE KNOW THE DATA SUPPORTS PROGRAMS LIKE THIS.

IT'S CLEAR IT'S NOT JUST YAVAPAI COUNTY, IT'S EVERYWHERE, AND THE COMMITMENT TO HAVE THAT PARADIGM SHIFT TO A CRIMINAL JUSTICE CENTER RATHER THAN JAIL CELLS IS NOTEWORTHY, AND YAVAPAI COUNTY IS LEADING IN THAT.

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I'M PARTICULARLY PLEASED THAT IT'S 6000 A MONTH, RATHER THAN WHATEVER IT WOULD HAVE BEEN FOR THE 292,000.

SO THANK YOU FOR THAT CLARIFICATION.

IT'S NOT AS EXPENSIVE AS IT INITIALLY APPEARED.

THANK YOU. WELL, MR. CHAIR, SUPERVISOR MICHAELS, IF I MAY, REAL QUICKLY, YOU'RE ABSOLUTELY RIGHT.

THIS MODEL THAT WE'VE DONE IN YAVAPAI COUNTY SINCE 2016 HAS BECOME WHAT'S KNOWN AS THE YAVAPAI MODEL ACROSS THE NATION, AND SO THE STATE OF ARIZONA HAS RECOGNIZED THE SUCCESS OF THIS MODEL THROUGHOUT THE STATE AND NOW THEY'RE STARTING TO LEGISLATE MONEY TO TRY TO GET THE OTHER COUNTIES TO START THE SAME TYPE OF TREATMENT AND PROGRAMING PRETRIAL.

WHAT THAT'S DONE IS THAT HAS SAVED INMATES GOING TO DOC, AND IT'S SAVED THEM SPENDING MONEY ON THE BACK END WITH INMATES GETTING OUT OF DOC.

SO IT'S KIND OF WHERE ARE YOU GOING TO SPEND THE MONEY YOU'RE GOING TO SPEND THE MONEY ON THE BACK END WHEN PEOPLE GET OUT OF DOC OR ON THE FRONT END TO TRY TO KEEP THEM FROM GOING TO DOC. YOU KNOW, IT'S LIKE THAT OLD COMMERCIAL, PAY US NOW OR PAY US LATER, BUT, YOU KNOW, WHAT WOULD BE INTERESTING IS TO KNOW WHAT THAT RETURN ON INVESTMENT REALLY IS FOR THIS COUNTY AND, AND HAVE THAT AT LEAST A RANGE.

SO WE CAN BRAG ON YOU WITH SOME VERIFICATION ABOUT THIS MODEL, WHICH I SO MUCH SUPPORT AND IT'S TREMENDOUS, MR. CHAIR, SUPERVISOR MICHAELS, THE PROBATION DEPARTMENT DOES CALCULATE SOME OF THOSE SAVINGS IN INMATE DAYS ON PROBATIONERS THAT THEY CAN THEY KEEP OUT OF JAIL.

SO THEY THEY DO KEEP A MONETARY AMOUNT.

WE HAVEN'T DONE THAT.

THE PROBATION DEPARTMENT DOES THAT, BUT IT'S SIGNIFICANT.

THAT'S INTERESTING. YOU SAID THAT BECAUSE THEY JUST TWO WEEKS AGO TOLD ME THAT YOU DID IT, NOT THEM.

WELL, IT'S A PARTNERSHIP.

I WOULD SAY WE SUPPLY THEM WITH SOME OF THE COSTS AND THEN THEY CALCULATE THE INMATE DAYS THAT THEIR PROBATIONERS DON'T.

SO I WILL SAY THAT THE PROBATION DEPARTMENT, THIS PROGRAM HAS GROWN SO MUCH THAT THEY HAVE ACTUALLY PUT A PROBATION OFFICER IN THE JAIL TO WORK IN THE JAIL ON SOME OF THESE ISSUES, AND SO THAT'S HOW THE PARTNERSHIPS HAVE GROWN.

WELL, IT'S HIGHLY APPROPRIATE TOO SO TO BE A PART OF THAT RELEASE PROCESS AND PROCEDURES.

MAKE SURE WE'RE RELEASING ONLY THOSE THAT ARE NONVIOLENT OFFENDERS BACK INTO THE COMMUNITY, AND THIS WILL ALSO HELP US WITH OUR JAIL OVERCROWDING IF IT BECOMES A MAJOR ISSUE AGAIN IN THE FUTURE.

SO APPRECIATE IT.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH, JEFF.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? NO, I'VE GOT TWO.

HARRY. HARRY. CHIEF. DEPUTY.

WHEN WE APPROVED THIS BACK IN MAY, I THINK IT WAS 333,000.

I SEE YOU'RE GOING TO BE SPENDING 292,500.

ABOUT A $41,000 DIFFERENCE.

CAN YOU EXPLAIN THE DIFFERENCE AND WHAT THAT'S GOING TO BE USED FOR? HONESTLY, MR. CHAIR, SUPERVISOR OBERG, I DON'T KNOW THE REASON FOR THAT DIFFERENCE.

WHAT I DO KNOW AND WHAT I'VE WHAT I LOOKED AT CLOSELY IS HOW HOW MUCH IS THIS GOING TO COST US OVER THE NEXT FEW MONTHS? AND WHERE DOES THIS MONEY GO? AND SO THIS MONEY WILL, WILL BE IN AN ACCOUNT, AND IF WE ENROLL, YOU KNOW, TEN INMATES, IT'S $250 PER INMATE.

IF WE ENROLL 300 INMATES, IT'S $250 PER INMATE.

SO HOPEFULLY WE'LL GET MORE INMATES TO ENROLL AND USE IT AS THEY EXIT AND THAT APP IS GOOD FOR THEM.

IF WE ENROLL THEM, THAT APP IS GOOD FOR THEM FOR SIX MONTHS AFTER THEY ARE RELEASED FROM FACILITY.

SO IT'S $6,250 THAT WE AS THE COUNTY PAY YOUTURN PER MONTH TO HAVE THE PROGRAM, AND THEN IT'S 250 PER INMATE.

SO IT REALLY DEPENDS ON THE ENROLLMENT, WHY IT'S DROPPED DOWN.

I'M NOT SURE. UNLESS ACJC EXTENDS THIS GRANT PAST DECEMBER, WE'RE NOT GOING TO COME ANYWHERE CLOSE TO THE EVEN THE $290,000.

SO BUT I'M HOPING THAT IF WE DO GET THE EXTENSION, THAT WE'D BE SPENDING ALL 333,000, NOT JUST LIMITING IT TO 292.

SO THE OTHER THING IS, JUST FOR MY EDIFICATION, YOU USE THE WORD PROBATION A LOT, AND ADULT PROBATION, I GUESS I'M KIND OF CURIOUS.

WHY IS THIS BEING RUN OUT OF THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE AND NOT OUT OF ADULT PROBATION? WELL, IT'S A GREAT QUESTION, MR. CHAIR. SUPERVISOR. OBERG, THE REASON THAT WE DO THAT IS BECAUSE WE LOOK AT THE JAIL AS KIND OF THE BASE OR THE COG WHERE EVERYTHING KIND OF STARTS AND WE SEE ALL OF THESE AVENUES.

THE INMATE STARTS THIS PROGRAM IN JAIL, AND SO THEY COULD BE THEY COULD BE USING THIS INMATE FOR TWO WEEKS WHILE THEY'RE IN JAIL AND THEN CARRIES OVER FOR SIX MONTHS. OR THEY COULD BE IN THERE ON SERIOUS CRIMES THAT THEY'RE WAITING FOR TRIAL, AND THEY'VE BEEN IN THERE FOR OVER A YEAR, TWO YEARS, THREE YEARS, YOU KNOW, AND THEY COULD BE USING THIS PROGRAM WHILE THEY'RE IN JAIL.

SO IT COULD EXCLUSIVELY BE A PROGRAM FOR THE JAIL FOR THAT INMATE FOR THAT PERIOD OF TIME, BUT THEN WHEN THEY GET OUT OF JAIL, IT CARRIES OVER INTO ANY FACET.

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NOT ALL OF THEM GO TO THE PROBATION DEPARTMENT WHEN THEY RELEASE FROM JAIL.

SOME OF THEM ARE GOING TO GO TO THE VA.

SOME OF THEM ARE GOING TO GO TO SPECTRUM OR OR SOUTHWEST BEHAVIORAL OR POLARA OR WHEREVER IT MAY TAKE THEM.

THEY COULD LEAVE THE STATE AND GO TO NEW MEXICO AND ENTER PROGRAMS THERE.

THAT APP WILL STILL FOLLOW THEM FOR THAT SIX MONTHS, SO IT'S PROBABLY THE MOST APPROPRIATE.

WE FEEL THAT IT STARTS OFF IN THE JAIL.

THE ARIZONA SHERIFF'S ASSOCIATION IS WHAT BROUGHT THE ATTENTION OF THIS PROGRAM TO ACJC, AND SO IT'S JUST ANOTHER FACET OF OUR PROGRAM THAT THE SHERIFFS STATEWIDE ARE TRYING TO MOVE FORWARD.

THAT'S PROBABLY WHY IT'S WITH US.

WELL, THANK YOU FOR THAT EXPLANATION.

ANY QUESTIONS, MISS MALLORY? SIR, I JUST WOULD LIKE TO SAY THAT I APPRECIATE THE EFFORTS SO MUCH OF THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT, ALL THE PERSONNEL TO TRY TO HELP THOSE PEOPLE THAT ARE ABLE TO GET SOME HELP.

SO THANK YOU FOR THAT INITIATIVE, AND THE MORE PEOPLE WE CAN HELP GET BACK IN, A REGULAR GOOD LIFE WOULD BE DEFINITELY BETTER FOR THEM, THEIR FAMILY AND OUR COMMUNITY.

SO I APPRECIATE THAT.

THANK YOU, SUPERVISOR MALLORY.

WELL, I THANK THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS IS GOING TO BE, YOU KNOW, EXTREMELY INTERESTED ON THE RESULTS OF THE STATISTICAL ANALYSIS OF THIS PROGRAM AS WELL AS ANY OTHERS THAT WE INCLUDE FOR THIS TYPE OF RELEASE PROGRAM.

WE ARE MORE THAN HAPPY TO PROVIDE IT AND SPEAK ABOUT IT, BECAUSE I KNOW THAT THERE'S A LOT OF MISCONCEPTION ABOUT SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WE'RE DOING AND WHY.

MIGHT TEAM UP WITH TALKING TO THE PROBATION OFFICER AS WELL.

MAKE SURE HE UNDERSTANDS THAT IT'S A TEAM EFFORT.

IT'S ABSOLUTELY. MR. CHAIRMAN, IF I COULD MAKE A COMMENT BACK TO THE DIFFERENCE IN THE GRANT AMOUNT AND THE CONTRACT AMOUNT, I BELIEVE THAT'S DUE TO THE ADMINISTRATIVE COSTS THAT YOU'RE RECEIVING, RIGHT? SURE, ABSOLUTELY.

THANK YOU. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. WAS THERE A MOTION? MOTION. OH. MOTION TO ACCEPT.

ITEM NUMBER 30.

SECONDED BY MR. GREGORY.

ALL IN FAVOR? AYE.

OKAY, MOVING ON TO HEARINGS.

[1. Development Services - Recommend approval to the Arizona Department of Liquor Licenses and Control of series ten (10) Beer and Wine Store Liquor License Application #299936 without protest, submitted by Amy S. Nations for the Corral Mart located at 93 West Lewis Avenue, Ash Fork, Arizona 86320. (District 4 - Supervisor Brown)]

DEVELOPMENT SERVICES RECOMMENDED APPROVAL TO THE ARIZONA DEPARTMENT OF LIQUOR LICENSES CONTROL OF SERIES TEN.

BEER AND WINE STORE.

LIQUOR LICENSE APPLICATION 299936 WITHOUT PROTEST.

SUBMITTED BY AMY NATIONS FOR THE CORRAL MARKET AT 93 WEST LEWIS AVENUE, ASH FORK, ARIZONA, AND IT'S IN MY DISTRICT.

I HAVE NOT RECEIVED ANY COMMUNICATIONS THAT ARE OPPOSED.

GOOD MORNING, MR. CHAIRMAN AND BOARD MEMBERS.

JEREMY DYE, DIRECTOR FOR DEVELOPMENT SERVICES.

WE HAVE NOT RECEIVED ANY LETTERS OF OPPOSITION REGARDING THIS HEARING ITEM AS WELL.

THIS IS A STANDARD LIQUOR LICENSE.

BEER AND WINE STORE LIQUOR LICENSE FOR THE YEAH THE CORRAL MART AT IN ASH FORK.

I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.

IS THERE ANY QUESTIONS BY THE BOARD.

SEEING NONE. MOVE TO ACCEPT.

SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. THAT'S UNANIMOUS.

THANK YOU, JEREMY.

THANK YOU. STUDY SESSION.

[1. Facilities - Study Session and presentation of the Space Planning Study's final report, the Gurley Street cost comparison report, and the Space Planning Steering Committee's project recommendations by Facilities Director Brandon Shoults, Gensler Project Director Paul Natzke, and Gensler Design Manager Katherine Decker. (All Districts)]

MOVING TO FACILITIES.

STUDY SESSION PRESENTATION OF THE SPACE PLANNING STUDIES FINAL REPORT.

THE GURLEY STREET COST COMPARISON REPORT AND THE SPACE PLANNING STEERING COMMITTEES PROJECT RECOMMENDATIONS BY FACILITIES DIRECTOR BRANDON SHOULTS.

GENSLER PROJECT DIRECTOR PAUL.

I'M GOING TO NOT PROBABLY DO A GOOD JOB ON THIS PRONUNCIATION.

NATZKE. IS THAT CLOSE? OKAY, AND GENSLER DESIGN MANAGER KATHERINE DECKER.

MISTER CHAIRMAN.

ARE THEY HERE WITH US TODAY? MISTER CHAIRMAN, IF WE MAY, AS WE DISCUSS, IF WE COULD BREAK NOW FOR ABOUT TEN MINUTES TO GET SET UP FOR THE PRESENTATION.

OKAY. THANK YOU.

GOOD ENOUGH THAT WAY WE WON'T HAVE TO INTERRUPT IT IN THE MIDDLE.

GOTCHA. HOW MUCH TIME DO YOU NEED? JUST ASK FOR TEN MINUTES. OKAY.

SO WHY DON'T WE COME BACK AT 20 OF.

OKAY. THANK YOU.

MEETING IS NOW BACK IN SESSION.

BACK TO STUDY SESSION THAT WE WERE HAVING WITH FACILITIES.

IN REGARDS TO THE PRESENTATION OF THE SPACE PLANNING FINAL REPORT.

BRANDON. GOOD MORNING.

GOOD MORNING, CHAIRMAN BROWN.

MEMBERS OF THE BOARD. I'M BRANDON SHOULTS, DIRECTOR OF THE FACILITIES DEPARTMENT.

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I'M PLEASED TO PRESENT THE FINAL VERSION OF THE SPACE PLANNING REPORT THAT WE'VE BEEN WORKING SO HARD AND SO LONG ON.

I HAVE PAUL NATZKE AND KATHERINE DECKER FROM GENSLER WHO ARE GOING TO DO THE BULK OF THE PRESENTATION TO GO THROUGH.

FEEL FREE TO ASK ANY QUESTIONS AS WE GO.

I WILL TAKE A COUPLE OF SLIDES AT THE END TO TALK ABOUT STEERING COMMITTEE RECOMMENDATIONS, AND THEN WE'LL TALK ABOUT ONE PROJECT SPECIFICALLY.

WE HAD AN EXTRA COMPONENT OF AND ANY MORE Q&A AS NEEDED THROUGH THERE.

I THINK JUST FOR PROCESS, IF WE'RE GOING TO BE ASKING QUESTIONS, GIVE ME A HANDS UP OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

SO I KNOW YOU WANT TO ASK A QUESTION AT THAT TIME.

WE'LL TRY AND DO IT AS WE GO, BECAUSE IF WE WAIT FOR THE END, WE'LL FORGET WHAT HAS BEEN SAID IN BETWEEN.

SO ANYWAY, AND YOU'RE MR. NATZKE. THAT'S ME, PAUL NATZKE WITH GENSLER.

I THINK WE MET. I THINK I MET WITH EACH OF YOU BRIEFLY AS PART OF THIS PROCESS.

RIGHT. SEE YOU ALL AGAIN.

YOUNG LADY'S NAME? KATHERINE DECKER.

GLAD TO MEET YOU. THANK YOU FOR COMING THIS MORNING.

WE REPRESENT A LARGER TEAM THAT WORKED ON THIS FOR QUITE A WHILE, AND WE'RE REALLY HAPPY TO SEE THIS DAY COME SO WE CAN SHARE THIS WITH YOU.

SO WE'RE BASICALLY HERE TO, AS BRANDON SAID, KIND OF PRESENT SORT OF THE FINAL SUMMARY OF OUR FACILITIES MASTER PLAN.

WE'RE GOING TO TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE PROCESS WE WENT THROUGH VERY BRIEFLY, AND THEN KIND OF JUMP TO KEY FINDINGS AND RECOMMENDATIONS THAT ARE COMING OUT OF IT.

SO THAT'S KIND OF OUR GOAL FOR TODAY.

THIS MORNING AS YOU PROBABLY REMEMBER, THIS IS A 20 YEAR LOOK AHEAD.

TRY TO BE AS STRATEGIC AS POSSIBLE IN TERMS OF WHAT YOUR THAT YOUR REAL ESTATE AND FACILITIES PROFILE SHOULD LOOK LIKE TO RESPOND TO EXPANDING GROWTH, CHANGING DEMOGRAPHICS, SERVICE DELIVERY ISSUES, AND SO BASICALLY, HOW ARE WE ALIGNING THIS ALL TO YOUR MISSION AND VISION OVER THE NEXT 20 YEARS? HOW DO WE BEST ALIGN YOUR PORTFOLIO, WHICH IS, AS YOU WELL KNOW, LARGE, DIVERSE GEOGRAPHICALLY SPREAD OUT THROUGH THE THROUGH THE COUNTY. SO THERE'S A FINE LINE, YOU KNOW, IS THERE A CENTRALIZATION IDEA HERE? BRING EVERYBODY IN. IS IT A COMPLETE DECENTRALIZATION? PUT DIFFERENT COUNTY OUTPOSTS AT REMOTE LOCATIONS THROUGHOUT THE THROUGHOUT THE GEOGRAPHY OF THE COUNTY.

OR IS THERE A MIDDLE GROUND WHERE THERE MAY BE A MORE EFFICIENT APPROACH WHERE WE COULD TAKE.

SO YOU'LL SEE SOME OF THAT REFLECTED IN THE RECOMMENDATIONS THAT WE'RE MAKING.

SO ESSENTIALLY, IN SHORT, WE'RE ASSESSING THE OPPORTUNITIES FOR CONSOLIDATION, RELOCATION.

THE OTHER, YOU KNOW, ENHANCING, ENHANCING BASICALLY ENHANCING SERVICE DELIVERY, AND MAKING SURE THAT YOUR SATELLITE LOCATIONS ARE PROVIDING THE SERVICES THAT ARE NEEDED IN THOSE COMMUNITIES.

REALLY QUICKLY IN OUR PROCESS, WHICH, AS I MENTIONED WE STARTED, BELIEVE IT OR NOT, BACK IN MID OR LATE JUNE, IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN, AND HAVE BEEN KIND OF GOING GANGBUSTERS EVER SINCE.

OUR PROCESS IS FIVE PHASES.

WE HAD THE STARTUP PROCESS THAT KIND OF FEATURED A VISIONING SESSION.

WE HAD FORMED A STEERING COMMITTEE THE STEERING COMMITTEE COMPRISED, OF COURSE, OF JEREMY DY, MARTIN AND WENDY ROSS, AND THEY WERE REALLY INSTRUMENTAL IN GUIDING US THROUGH THIS PROCESS AS WE WENT THROUGH, EVERY TIME WE HAD A FINDING OR A DIRECTION OR GUIDANCE WE NEEDED TO SEEK, WE MET WITH THEM.

THEY PROVIDED THAT INFORMATION, GAVE US SOME REALLY GOOD FEEDBACK, AND WERE INSTRUMENTAL IN PUSHING US THROUGH THIS PROCESS.

DATA COLLECTION WAS REALLY WHERE WE SPENT MOST OF THE TIME.

WE WERE HERE A LOT VISITING NOT ALL, BUT A LOT OF YOUR 70 LOCATIONS.

WE MET WITH JUST ABOUT ALL YOUR DEPARTMENT HEADS, 38 OR SO OF THEM.

WE CONDUCTED QUALITATIVE SITE TOURS.

WE HAD A FACILITY CONDITION ASSESSMENT CONSULTING FIRM DO A FAIRLY ROBUST INFRASTRUCTURE ASSESSMENT OF MANY OF YOUR FACILITIES.

SO ALL THAT KIND OF WAS GOING ON THROUGH A 2 OR 3 MONTH PROCESS THAT ALL LED TO FINDINGS AND ANALYSIS.

SO WHAT, AFTER GOING THROUGH THAT, WHAT DOES THAT ALL MEAN? WHAT DO WE WHAT IS WHERE IS THIS LEADING THIS OR WHAT ARE THE WHERE ARE THE ARROWS POINTING? WE KIND OF INVESTIGATED THAT DURING THE OPTIONS DEVELOPMENT PHASE.

WE KIND OF COME UP WITH SOME IDEAS, SOME OF THEM A LITTLE CRAZY.

SOME OF THEM ARE PRETTY CONSERVATIVE.

WE KIND OF MET WITH THE STEERING COMMITTEE, WORKED THROUGH THEM, KIND OF DISTILLED DOWN TO WHAT WE THINK ARE A GOOD CORE SET OF RECOMMENDATIONS, WHICH YOU'LL SEE HERE IN JUST A FEW MINUTES, AND THEN WE'RE NOW IN THE FINAL THROES AND FINAL DOCUMENTATION.

WE'VE SUBMITTED THE FINAL VERSION OF THE REPORT, AND WE'RE HERE TODAY TO PRESENT THAT TO YOU.

SO ANY QUESTIONS ON THE PROCESS AS WE GO ALONG? PRETTY STRAIGHTFORWARD.

ALL RIGHT. KATHERINE'S GOING TO KIND OF TALK TO YOU A LITTLE BIT ABOUT SOME OF THE QUALITATIVE INFORMATION THAT WE THAT CAME OUT OF THIS REPORT.

YES. SO WE CONDUCTED SORT OF THAT HIGH LEVEL WITH THE STEERING COMMITTEE, AND SHOUT OUT TO BRANDON AS WELL, BEING THAT REAL MAIN POINT OF CONTACT.

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WE WITH THE STEERING COMMITTEE, WE REALLY LOOKED AT HIGH LEVEL.

WHAT ARE OUR GOALS HERE FOR THIS FACILITIES MASTER PLAN AND REALLY WHAT OPPORTUNITIES DO WE HAVE TO REALLY ENFORCE AND SUPPORT THE MISSION OF THE COUNTY? AND FROM THAT KEY WORKSHOP WITH THE STEERING COMMITTEE, WE DEVELOPED REALLY FOUR CORE PRINCIPLES OR GUIDING PRINCIPLES, AND THE FIRST IS ABOUT THE COUNTY CULTURE THAT REALLY IT IS APPARENT AND VERY EVIDENT THAT YOU ALL REALLY TAKE IT TO HEART TO BE GOOD STEWARDS OF THE COUNTY'S RESOURCES AND REALLY TO MAKE SURE THAT IS MAINTAINED MOVING FORWARD.

THE SECOND IS ABOUT THE FACILITIES AND REALLY MAKING SURE THAT THE FACILITIES APPROPRIATELY ADDRESS THE NEEDS OF THE COUNTY, THAT THEY'RE WELL MAINTAINED AND CONTINUE TO ADAPT TO THE COUNTY AS IT EVOLVES AND GROWS IN THE FUTURE.

THE SECOND IS ABOUT REALLY REINFORCING THAT EMPLOYEE EXPERIENCE, SO MAKING SURE THAT THE EMPLOYEES ARE BEST SUPPORTED IN THE BUILT ENVIRONMENT AND MAKING SURE THAT ENVIRONMENT REALLY WHERE YAVAPAI COUNTY.

ONE OF THE EXERCISES WAS LOOKING AT, YOU KNOW, A HEADLINE FROM THE FUTURE, AND IT WAS THAT YAVAPAI COUNTY IS ONE OF THE BEST PLACES TO WORK, AND SO HOW CAN WE MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE HAVING THE BUILT ENVIRONMENT SUPPORT THAT EMPLOYEE EXPERIENCE? AND THEN THE FINAL ASPECT IS REALLY ABOUT PUBLIC SERVICE, THAT WE'RE ALL HERE TO REALLY BE SUPPORTING THE COUNTY RESIDENTS AND THE COUNTY SERVICES, AND HOW DO WE MAKE SURE THAT EVERYTHING REALLY COALESCES INTO SUPPORTING AND ULTIMATELY DELIVERING EXCELLENT PUBLIC SERVICE? SO THOSE WERE THE FOUR MAIN GUIDING PRINCIPLES, AND AFTER WE DID OUR ANALYSIS WITH THE DIFFERENT DEPARTMENTS, THE QUESTIONNAIRES, THE ALSO THE ENGAGEMENTS WITH THE BUREAU VERITAS DOING THE ASSESSMENTS OF THE FACILITIES.

THERE ARE REALLY FIVE KEY FINDINGS THAT CAME OUT OF THAT, AND THE FIRST WAS THAT THE SERVICES ARE CURRENTLY DISTRIBUTED THROUGHOUT THE COUNTY IN VARIOUS ASPECTS FOR DIFFERENT DEPARTMENTS, THAT THE COUNTY HAS PRIORITIZED ADJACENCIES THAT ARE CRITICAL FOR SERVICES TO BE DELIVERED BEST.

THE NEXT IS THAT WHICH IS VERY UNUSUAL IS THAT FOR THE MOST PART, THE FACILITIES ARE VERY WELL MAINTAINED.

SO THAT'S REALLY UNUSUAL.

YES, THEY HAVE AGED, BUT OVERALL THEY'RE WELL MAINTAINED, AND A SHOUT OUT TO BRANDON FOR THAT BECAUSE IT IS UNUSUAL.

WE'VE DONE A LOT OF MASTER PLANNING FOR COUNTIES IN CALIFORNIA AND OTHER PLACES, AND A LOT OF FACILITIES ARE IN DISREPAIR BECAUSE OF BUDGET ISSUES AND SO FORTH.

YOUR FACILITIES ARE REALLY THERE MAY BE AGING, THEY MAY BE NOT AS EFFICIENT AS THEY COULD BE, BUT FROM AN INFRASTRUCTURE PERSPECTIVE, THEY'RE IN DECENT SHAPE.

SO [INAUDIBLE].

THE SECOND OR THE FOURTH IS THAT THE POPULATION IS INCREASING.

SO HOW DO WE ACCOMMODATE THAT FUTURE GROWTH? AND THEN THE FINAL IS THAT THE WORKFORCE NEEDS MORE SPACE TO EXPAND, NOT ONLY FOR ITS CURRENT, BUT IF THE COUNTY DOES CONTINUE TO GROW, HOW DO WE MAKE SURE THAT THE WORKFORCE CAN SUPPORT THAT GROWTH AND THAT HIGHER DEMAND FOR SERVICES? AND SO THEN JUST HIGH LEVEL, TAKING SOME DATA FROM THE ARIZONA OFFICE OF ECONOMIC OPPORTUNITY, WE CAN SEE SOME OF THE AREAS WITHIN THE COUNTY THAT ARE ANTICIPATED TO HAVE HIGHER GROWTH, AND ULTIMATELY, THE COUNTY IS PROJECTED TO INCREASE TO ABOUT 310,000, WITH THE PRESCOTT VALLEY AND THE CHINO VALLEY BEING THE TWO AREAS THAT ARE ANTICIPATED TO HAVE THE LARGEST GROWTH IN THE DOUBLE DIGITS, AND THEN THIS IS WHERE WE SORT OF SEGUE INTO SORT OF RECOMMENDATIONS.

HOW DO WE MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS INFORMATION UNDERSTANDING, YOU KNOW, THIS IS OUR BASELINE AND REALLY IT COMES DOWN TO THAT OVERLAPPING OF TRYING TO ACCOMMODATE ALL OF OUR GUIDING PRINCIPLES, AND IT'S ABOUT HOLISTIC PLANNING, NOT WEIGHING TOO HEAVILY ON ONE ASPECT OVER THE OTHER, BUT HOW DO WE REALLY INTEGRATE ALL OF THEM EQUALLY? BECAUSE HISTORICALLY THE COUNTY HAS BEEN RESPONSIVE TO NEEDS.

UNFORTUNATELY, SOMETIMES THAT RESPONSIVENESS CAN HAVE CAN NOT BE IN ALIGNMENT WITH MAYBE A DIFFERENT AREA, AND SO WANTING TO REALLY TAKE A HIGHER LEVEL APPROACH WHEN LOOKING AT THINGS OF NOT NECESSARILY RESPONDING AND REACTING, BUT REALLY BEING THOUGHTFUL AND PLANNING THOSE NEXT STEPS, AND SO THEN THE KIND OF SIX KEY HIGH LEVEL OUTCOMES ARE REALLY

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UNDER THESE POINTS.

SO ONE IS ABOUT ESTABLISHING A CENTRALIZED JUDICIAL CAMPUS IN THE PRESCOTT REGION.

CURRENTLY THOSE ARE DISTRIBUTED.

YOU HAVE THE COURTHOUSE, WHICH IS REALLY AT CAPACITY FOR THE TYPES OF SERVICES IT PROVIDES, BUT OBVIOUSLY WE WANT TO MAINTAIN THAT HISTORIC BUILDING.

SO HOW CAN WE ADAPT IT TO BEST SUIT THE NEEDS? A SECOND APPROACH IS REALLY TRANSFORMING THE LIBRARIES THAT ARE THOSE POINTS OF CONTACT WITHIN THE COMMUNITIES THAT PEOPLE DO SEE AND ENVISION AS THE INTERFACE WITH THE COMMUNITY.

HOW CAN WE LEVERAGE THAT EXISTING MODEL AND REALLY ENHANCE IT, AND SO REALLY LOOKING AT THOSE COUNTY LIBRARIES AS A SERVICE HUB AND AN AVENUE TO REALLY EMBED THE COUNTY WITHIN THOSE RURAL COMMUNITIES.

THE NEXT IS REALLY EXPANDING COTTONWOOD TO MEET FUTURE NEEDS.

AGAIN, IT IS EXPECTED TO BE INCREASING.

SO HOW CAN WE BE MORE EFFICIENT WITH THE SPACE OUT HERE? THE FOURTH IS ABOUT REALLY ESTABLISHING CONSISTENCY FOR THE JUSTICE DEPARTMENT AND THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE, REALLY PROVIDING A PROTOTYPE TYPE OF SUBSTATION AND BEING ABLE TO TAKE THAT MODEL.

SO IT'S CONSISTENT THROUGHOUT, AND RESOURCES, WHEN THEY ARE OUT IN REMOTE AREAS, THEY HAVE EQUITABLE ACCESS TO THE RESOURCES THEY NEED.

THE FIFTH ONE IS ABOUT POTENTIALLY REDUCING SPACE AND OVERHEAD BY DENSIFYING WORKSPACES WHERE IT'S APPROPRIATE, AND THEN THE FINAL IS ABOUT REALLY PRIORITIZING PURCHASING OVER BUILDING.

SO HOW CAN WE REALLY TAKE EXISTING FACILITIES AND ADAPT THEM TO THE NEEDS? AND THEN THIS GIVES A HIGH LEVEL OVERVIEW OF REALLY KIND OF THE RECOMMENDED INTERVENTIONS BY FACILITY MOVEMENT GOING FROM SORT OF THE PLANNING STAGE ALL THE WAY TO BUILD OR BUY, AND SO IN PLANNING RECOMMENDATIONS, WE ARE RECOMMENDING THAT YOU HAVE A LIBRARY DISTRICT, DISTRICT MASTER PLAN, REALLY THINKING HOLISTICALLY AND HIGH LEVEL ABOUT WHAT IS THAT STRATEGY FOR EMBEDDING OURSELVES IN OUR RURAL COMMUNITIES.

THE NEXT IS THAT SHERIFF'S OFFICE MASTER PLAN, AGAIN, REALLY LOOKING AT HOW CAN WE PROVIDE AND SUPPORT THE SHERIFF IN THOSE REMOTE LOCATIONS AND THEN LOOKING AT ACCOUNT YAVAPAI COUNTY WORKPLACE STRATEGY ON HOW DO WE PROVIDE CONSISTENCY FOR THAT WORKPLACE EXPERIENCE FOR ALL OF THE WORKFORCE ACROSS YOUR VARIOUS FACILITIES.

THEN WE'VE IDENTIFIED FACILITIES TO MAINTAIN OTHERS TO RENOVATE, SOME TO EXPAND, AND THEN OTHERS THAT WE'RE RECOMMENDING TO EITHER BUILD OR BUY.

SO WE KIND OF KEPT IT HIGH LEVEL, BECAUSE I KNOW THERE'S A DISCUSSION OF THE PRIORITIZATION THAT'S COMING UP HERE, BUT I DON'T KNOW IF YOU HAD ANY QUESTIONS ON ANY OF THESE SPECIFIC RECOMMENDATIONS BEFORE WE KIND OF JUMP INTO THAT PARTICULAR ASPECT.

PRETTY STRAIGHTFORWARD.

OKAY. DO YOU WANT TO JUMP IN? GO AHEAD. YEAH. TOO FAR.

THERE WE GO. THERE WE GO.

SO I DID PARTICIPATE ON THE STEERING COMMITTEE, AND I DO THANK MAURY, JEREMY, WENDY AND MARTY FOR THEIR I TRIED TO PICK A DIVERSE GROUP THAT LOOKED AT A LOT OF DIFFERENT ASPECTS SO THAT WE HAD KIND OF A BROAD APPROACH.

EVERYTHING FROM HR SO THAT WE HAD KIND OF THE EMPLOYEE ENGAGEMENT.

I REACHED OUT TO JEREMY BECAUSE HE HAS A VERY PUBLIC FACING AND, OF COURSE, ENGAGED ADMINISTRATION FOR THE OVERSIGHT OF THE COUNTY AS A WHOLE.

SO I THOUGHT I'D PUT TOGETHER A REASONABLE TEAM TO REALLY LOOK AT ALL ASPECTS OF THE COUNTY.

ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I'M VERY HAPPY ABOUT, AND THANK YOU FOR THE KUDOS ON THE BUILDINGS.

IT'S REALLY THE SUPPORT AND FUNDING THAT COMES FROM THE BOARD THAT ALLOWS ME TO MAKE SURE THAT OUR BUILDINGS ARE WELL MAINTAINED.

SO I COULDN'T DO IT WITHOUT MY STAFF, AND I COULDN'T DO IT WITHOUT YOUR GUYS' SUPPORT.

SO IT'S YOUR GUYS' COMMITMENT TO THE BUILDINGS THAT'S REALLY ALLOWED ME TO MAINTAIN THEM AND MY PREDECESSORS TO MAINTAIN THEM.

THE FACILITY CONDITION ASSESSMENT THAT THEY WERE MENTIONING IS GOING TO BE A WONDERFUL TOOL FOR US TO UNDERSTAND OUR ASSETS AND HOW WE PLAN FOR THEM, AND HOW SOME OF THESE MODIFICATIONS AND CHANGES CAN IMPACT OUR OVERALL PORTFOLIO.

HOW DO WE MAKE THE BEST IMPACT FOR THE TAX DOLLARS THAT WE'RE COLLECTING AND LIKE KATHERINE HAD SAID, WE DO WANT TO PRIORITIZE BUYING OVER BUILDING.

SO YOU MAY SEE A LOT OF NOTES IN HERE ABOUT A NEW BUILDING.

THAT DOESN'T NECESSARILY MEAN IT'S GOT TO BE NEW CONSTRUCTION.

IT COULD BE SOMETHING THAT WE'RE BUYING AND RENOVATING TO HELP REVITALIZE THE COMMUNITY.

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SO DON'T THINK THAT JUST BECAUSE IT SAYS A NEW BUILDING, IT MEANS NEW CONSTRUCTION.

IT'S JUST A NEW BUILDING TO US.

IT'S LIKE BUYING A NEW USED CAR.

SO WITH THAT, WE TRIED TO TAKE ALL THE RECOMMENDATIONS THAT GENSLER HAD PUT AND HIT ALL THE HIGH POINTS, AND WE TRIED TO WORK THROUGH THE PROCESS TO FIND THE PROJECTS THAT HAD THE BIGGEST IMPACT ON MOST OF THE THINGS THAT WE COULD DO IN THERE.

WE TOOK OUR FIRST STAB AT THIS.

BY NO MEANS IS THIS INTENDED TO BE THE FINAL LIST.

I BELIEVE MAURY AND I ARE INTENDING TO HAVE A MORE SIT DOWN WORKING STUDY SESSION WITH YOU GUYS, SO WE CAN GO BACK AND FORTH OVER SOME OF THESE PROJECTS, BUT WE JUST WANTED TO KIND OF PRESENT THIS AS THE FIRST TAKE AS A INITIAL DISCUSSION POINT, AND THEN WE CAN PROCEED FROM THERE.

AS I MENTIONED, THIS IS THIS IS GOING TO BE OUR FIRST STEP.

WE'LL HAVE SOME FURTHER CONVERSATIONS WITH YOU, BUT AFTER THIS WE'RE GOING TO ROLL INTO A CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN THAT NOT ONLY ADDRESSES BUILDINGS.

I'M SURE IT WILL INCLUDE PUBLIC WORKS AND SOME OTHER THINGS GOING ON WITHIN THE COUNTY.

WE'LL HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO MASSAGE SOME OF THAT BASED UPON SOME OF OUR FUNDING MECHANISMS. WE MAY MAKE DECISIONS TODAY BASED UPON WHAT WE THINK ARE GOOD PROJECTS, BUT WE MAY NEED TO ADJUST BASED UPON HOW WE CAN ALLOCATE FUNDING.

OR WE'RE GOING TO FINANCE SOME OF THESE PROJECTS, BUT STARTING ON THE LEFT HAND SIDE AND WORKING ACROSS, I TOOK THE RECOMMENDATIONS.

WE LOOKED AT THE NEW BUILDINGS THAT WE WERE LOOKING AT BUILDING, AND WE ALSO LOOKED AT THE RENOVATIONS AND EXPANSIONS, AND WE LOOKED AT THEM SEPARATELY, AND WHAT I REALIZED IS WHEN WE LOOKED AT THEM SEPARATELY AS A STEERING COMMITTEE, THEY REALLY DOVETAILED TOGETHER.

BECAUSE IF WE WERE TO BUILD SOME NEW BUILDINGS AND VACATE SOME SPACE, WE WANT TO COME BACK INTO THAT SPACE AND REMODEL THAT SPACE IMMEDIATELY SO WE CAN PUT THAT SPACE BACK TO USE, AND WE'RE NOT WAITING FOR AN EXCESSIVE AMOUNT OF TIME.

THE FIRST BUILDING HERE ON THE LIST, AND I'LL HAVE SOME MORE DETAIL ON THAT ONE A LITTLE BIT LATER, IS THE GURLEY STREET RENOVATION.

THAT'S A PROJECT THAT'S BEEN ON THE BOOKS WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT FOR MORE THAN A COUPLE OF YEARS NOW.

WE HAVE DONE ONE LAYOUT.

WE'LL PROBABLY WANT TO REVISIT THAT AND MAKE SURE THAT IT IS ALIGNED WITH OUR SPACE PLANNING AND EVERYTHING THAT'S GOING ON WITH GENSLER, BUT THAT WILL BE THE FIRST MAJOR RENOVATION PROJECT WE RECOMMEND WE START WITH.

THAT ONE IS NEARLY SHOVEL READY.

WE'VE GOT AN EXISTING BUILDING.

WE'VE GOT SOME COMPLICATIONS TO WORK THROUGH, BUT I'VE GOT SOME IDEAS FOR THAT.

THE NEXT ONE WOULD BE A NEW BUILDING, AND THIS ACTUALLY WOULD BE A NEW CONSTRUCTION.

WE'RE PROPOSING A BUILDING BETWEEN US DEVELOPMENT SERVICES AND IT.

THERE'S AN EXISTING LOT WITH EXISTING INFRASTRUCTURE.

THIS BUILDING HAS BEEN ON OUR RADAR FOR A COUPLE OF YEARS AS WELL.

MYSELF AND MY PREDECESSOR HAVE BEEN TALKING ABOUT THIS ONE AS A GOOD OPPORTUNITY.

WE HAD PROPOSED ELECTIONS, SOME IT SOME RECORDER IN THERE, A LITTLE BIT OF STORAGE.

THE BIG THING IS ELECTIONS AND BRINGING THEM TOGETHER INTO A SINGLE FACILITY, AND THE REASON WE LIKE THAT PROJECT IS BECAUSE IT TAKES ELECTIONS OUT OF TRIPLE C AND OUT OF FAIR STREET, WHICH CREATES OPPORTUNITIES IN TWO MORE BUILDINGS FOR MORE SPACE FOR THOSE THOSE DEPARTMENTS WITHOUT NECESSARILY HAVING TO BUY OR EXPAND THOSE.

SO THE NEXT PROJECT WE RECOMMEND WOULD BE THE PRESCOTT ADMIN BUILDING AS A MAJOR RENOVATION.

SO WE'D BE RENOVATING ANY SPACES THAT WERE VACATED TO REALLOCATE THOSE SPACES TO THE DEPARTMENTS WITHIN THERE AND MAKE ANY CHANGES THAT WE NEED AT THAT POINT.

FOLLOWING THAT ONE, WE WOULD THEN TURN TO THE COTTONWOOD AREA, AND WE WOULD LIKE TO LOOK AT A DATA CENTER.

IT HAS EXPRESSED THE DESIRE TO HAVE A REDUNDANT DATA CENTER ON THIS SIDE OF THE MOUNTAIN.

CURRENTLY, BOTH OF THEM ARE IN THE PRESCOTT AREA.

WE'VE ALWAYS LIKED THE CONCEPT OF HAVING A DATA CENTER ON BOTH SIDES OF THE HILL, SO THAT WE HAD SOME REDUNDANCY SHOULD THERE BE ANY BREAK IN COMMUNICATION BETWEEN THE TWO AND THEN THE OTHER PROPOSAL OVER HERE IN COTTONWOOD WOULD BE TO EXPAND THE COTTONWOOD HEALTH SERVICES.

THEY HAVE A GROWING NEED OVER HERE.

WE'VE HAD SOME ONGOING CONVERSATIONS ABOUT EXPANDING CLINIC SERVICES, AND THIS REALLY FITS WITH THAT GROWING MODEL THEY'VE GOT OVER HERE.

WE WOULD ALSO LOOK TO DO A MAJOR RENOVATION HERE IN THE ANNEX.

SOME OF THE COTTONWOOD HEALTH SERVICES MAY INCLUDE MOVING THEM OUT OF SOME OF THE SPACE, DEPENDING UPON HOW THAT WORKS OUT, WHICH COULD FREE UP SOME SPACE FOR OTHER DEPARTMENTS TO REALLOCATE SPACE HERE.

BACK OVER TO PROSSER STREET.

THERE'S BEEN SOME CONVERSATION ABOUT WHETHER OR NOT THAT STAYS AS RECORD STORAGE, OR IF IT TURNS INTO MAYBE AN IT CENTER.

SO THERE COULD BE SOME RENOVATIONS THAT ARE NEEDED THERE TO SUPPORT THAT GROWTH.

ADULT PROBATION FACILITY IN PRESCOTT VALLEY.

ADULT PROBATION HAS LONG SAID THEIR CLIENTELE BASE SEEMS TO EXIST IN PRESCOTT VALLEY, AND EVEN THOUGH THEY TECHNICALLY HAVE A PRESCOTT VALLEY ADDRESS, THEY'RE AT THE FAR EXTENTS OF IT, AND THEY BELIEVE THAT BEING IN PRESCOTT VALLEY WOULD ACTUALLY IMPROVE THEIR CLIENT ACCESS TO THEIR SERVICES IN THAT AREA.

SO THAT'S ONE WE THINK IS VALUABLE, AND THEN ULTIMATELY WE COULD VACATE THAT SPACE AND SELL THAT BUILDING OUTRIGHT AND RECOUP SOME OF OUR MONEY THERE.

MOVING ON FROM THERE WOULD BE THE COMMERCE CENTER CIRCLE.

THAT AGAIN, WOULD BE DEPENDENT ON GETTING SOME ELECTIONS PEOPLE OUT OF THERE.

LIBRARIES LOOKING FOR MORE SPACE.

THEY'VE GOT GROWTH.

SIMPO, OUR PARTNER WITH THE REST OF THE COMMUNITY IS HAVING TO RENT SPACE, LITTLE OFFICES HERE AND THERE TO KIND OF SUPPORT THEIR SERVICES AS THEY ARE FULL AS WELL.

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SO THEY ARE DESPERATELY LOOKING FOR SPACE THERE.

SO WE WOULD LOOK TO EXPAND REMODEL THAT ONE TO WORK FOR THEIR PURPOSES, AND THEN GETTING ON TO THE CENTRALIZED COURT FACILITIES.

AFTER WE BUILT THE JUSTICE CENTER THERE ON PRESCOTT LAKES, WE ENDED UP WITH A PAD ROUGHLY AROUND FOUR ACRES, WHICH IS A GREAT SITE TO EITHER BUILD MORE COURTROOMS, MORE LAW ENFORCEMENT.

COULD BE IN COMBINATION WITH THE EMERGENCY OPERATIONS CENTER COULD BE IN CONJUNCTION A LOT OF THOSE THINGS, BUT, YOU KNOW, BACK TO THE CENTRALIZING JUSTICE.

THE COURTHOUSE IS GETTING FULL AGAIN.

THE PRESCOTT CONSOLIDATED COURT IS ALWAYS ASKING FOR MORE SPACE.

THERE'S NO MORE SPACE TO GIVE IN THE COURTHOUSE.

SO REALLY, OUR ONLY OPPORTUNITY IS TO TRY TO TAKE ONE OF THOSE COURTROOMS AND MOVE IT OUT OF THAT COURTROOM SO THE REST OF THE COURTS CAN EXPAND IN THERE AND FILL OUT THAT SPACE.

WE ALSO ARE LOOKING AT A NEW BUILDING IN PRESCOTT VALLEY FOR COMMUNITY HEALTH.

WE HAVE A LONG TERM LEASE THAT IS STILL IN EFFECT.

WE ARE NOW AT THE POINT WHERE WE CAN'T RECOUP ANY FUNDING, BUT WE ARE ALSO AT CAPACITY IN THAT SPACE.

THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT WOULD VERY MUCH SO LOVE TO ADD MORE SERVICES, BUT THERE'S JUST NO MORE ROOM TO ADD ANY MORE SERVICES THERE.

AS YOU'VE HEARD FROM THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT, A LOT OF TIMES THESE PROVIDERS ACTUALLY BECOME A POSITIVE INCOME FOR US, AND SO IT'S UNFORTUNATE THAT WE CAN'T ADD PROVIDERS AND ADD SERVICES BECAUSE AT THE AT THE END OF THE DAY, IT OFFSETS THE MONEY WE INVEST WITH THAT DEPARTMENT, AND THEN ANOTHER ONE ON HERE IS OUR EMERGENCY OPERATIONS CENTER.

WHETHER THAT ENDS UP WITH THE JUSTICE COMPLEX OR POSSIBLY ACROSS THE STREET WHERE WE STILL HAVE SOME MORE LAND AT THAT PRESCOTT LAKE CENTER THERE.

THERE'S ACTUALLY A SITE THAT'S A LITTLE BIT HIGHER IN ELEVATION THAT MAY SUIT THE EMERGENCY OPERATION, AND THE RADIO NEEDS A LITTLE BIT BETTER THAN BEING DOWN IN THE BOWL NEXT TO THE JUSTICE CENTERS.

WE DO HAVE ABOUT 79 ACRES, I THINK, IN TOTAL IN THAT AREA, AND SO WE'VE GOT SOME OPPORTUNITIES.

IT'LL TAKE A LITTLE BIT OF EARTHWORK, BUT LOTS OF OPPORTUNITIES THERE, AND THEN THE LAST ONE ON OUR CHART HERE IS THE RURAL COMMUNITIES, THE LIBRARIES AND THE SUBSTATIONS AND I PUT THAT ONE ON THE END, NOT BECAUSE I THINK IT'S THE LAST ONE, BUT I WASN'T SURE HOW TO FIT IT IN AMONGST THE REST OF THESE THINGS.

IT IS A MAJOR COMPONENT.

IT IS A AN ITEM THAT GENSLER HAS IDENTIFIED THAT I THINK WE NEED TO BE ADDRESSING, AND THE REALITY IS, IS WE CAN GO AS FAST AS YOU GUYS WANT TO GO, BUT IT'S GOING TO BE DEPENDENT ON MY DEPARTMENT'S ABILITY TO CONTRACT, TO SOLICIT, TO MANAGE AND TO MAINTAIN, AND SO, DEPENDING UPON HOW FAST WE WANT TO GO, I MAY COME TO YOU AND LOOK AT OUTSOURCING SOME OF THE PROJECT MANAGEMENT, BRINGING ON SOME TEMPORARY PERSONNEL, AND SO AS PART OF THESE DISCUSSIONS, WE NEED TO TALK ABOUT HOW HOW AGGRESSIVE DO YOU GUYS WANT TO BE IN ANY OF THESE, AND WE CAN RESORT A LOT OF THESE THINGS AND WE CAN TALK ABOUT HOW THAT RESOURCE ALLOCATION LOOKS ON MY DEPARTMENT AND REALLY HOW MUCH CAN WE REASONABLY MANAGE WITHOUT ISSUE.

SO I THINK THAT'S A VERY GOOD POINT TO RAISE THAT WE REALLY NEED ALMOST A SEPARATE CONVERSATION AND DAY TO DRILL DOWN ON WITH OUR NEW EXPENDITURE LIMIT.

WE HAVE SOMETHING TO NOODLE HERE THAT'S REALLY IMPORTANT.

DO WE TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THE OPPORTUNITY IN THE MARKET TODAY, ESPECIALLY AS IT RELATES? I SEE THESE HEADS DOTTING ESPECIALLY AS IT RELATES TO NEW BUILDINGS AND REPURPOSING, AND THE VALUE OF REPURPOSING IN ESPECIALLY AREAS WHERE WE'RE PROJECTING SOME GROWTH BUT, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT A STATIC KIND OF MOVEMENT WITHIN A COMMUNITY BECAUSE WE ARE RURAL FOLKS JUMP ON ROADS AND GO TO SEDONA OR CAMP VERDE, WHICH IS JUST EXPLODING.

ACCORDING TO YOUR PROJECTIONS, BUT WE'RE ALL IN THOSE COMMUNITIES REGULARLY, AND SO WE HAVE TO THINK ABOUT SORT OF THE MIGRATION OF OUR CONSTITUENCIES BACK AND FORTH BETWEEN THESE COMMUNITIES, AND WHAT OPPORTUNITIES MIGHT THAT SUGGEST TO US TO CONSIDER PARTICULARLY NOW THAT WE ARE UNSHACKLED BUT STILL VERY CONSERVATIVE BUT UNSHACKLED BECAUSE OF THE EXPENDITURE LIMIT IN LOOKING AT OPPORTUNITIES, WHICH, FRANKLY, THIS SUPERVISOR REALLY SUPPORTS.

I THINK NOW IS THE TIME TO REALLY DRILL DOWN AND CONSIDER THAT PARTICULARLY IN THE AREAS THAT YOU, YOU POINTED OUT YOU KNOW, IT'S I'VE LONG HELD THAT WE SHOULD EXPAND OUR, OUR LIBRARY SERVICES WITH MORE TECHNOLOGY OPPORTUNITIES PARTICULARLY, AND, YOU KNOW, THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE BROUGHT IT UP TODAY, BEHAVIORAL HEALTH.

WE CAN USE TELEHEALTH IN WAYS THAT WE'RE NOT PRESENTLY USING OR WE'RE USING IN REALLY REMOTE

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AREAS AND MAKE IT PART OF WHAT WE DO AS A COUNTY OFFERING, AND THAT MEANS DO WE HAVE THE TECHNOLOGY TO PROVIDE THAT OFFERING, AND WHAT IS THE COST TO DO THAT? BUT I THINK IT'S VERY VALUABLE, BRANDON, TO TAKE TO PAUSE AND LOOK AT WHAT WOULD IT TAKE TO ACTUALLY EXPAND THE SERVICES IN THESE WAYS THAT WE ALREADY KNOW IS A NEED.

LET ME GIVE YOU JUST ONE EXAMPLE, IF I MAY, AND THEN I WON'T TAKE THE FLOOR ANYMORE, BUT THE CAREGIVER PROGRAM OUT IN OUR NECK OF THE WOODS, KENT ELLSWORTH, WHO IS THE CEO OF THAT, PROJECTED THAT THEY'RE GOING TO BE SPENDING 900 OVER 900,000 A YEAR IN VERDE VALLEY CAREGIVERS PROGRAM JUST IN TRANSPORTATION, AND THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE TO FIND DOLLARS FOR THAT IF WE DON'T BRING IN TELEHEALTH IN SOME MEANINGFUL WAY FOR OUR MORE PLACE BOUND RESIDENTS OR HAVE OUR SERVICES, OUR OFFICES WITH THAT SO THAT THEY CAN TAKE ADVANTAGE OF IT AND EVEN HAVE SOMEONE WHO COULD GUIDE THEM THROUGH THE USE OF IT, GIVEN THE PROFILE, THE DEMOGRAPHICS OF THAT POPULATION.

SO ALL THINGS I THINK THAT WE NEED TO REALLY DRILL DOWN ON.

YES, MA'AM. SUPERVISOR MICHAELS, I REALLY APPRECIATE YOUR COMMENTS, ESPECIALLY WHEN IT COMES TO THE LIBRARIES.

WE'VE WE'VE HAD A LOT OF INTERACTIONS WITH THE LIBRARY DIRECTOR COREY, AND KUDOS TO HIM FOR HIS SUPPORT, SUPPORT OF THE COMMUNITY, NOT JUST IN WHAT HE DOES IN LIBRARIES, BUT HIS WILLINGNESS TO PARTNER WITH US AS A COUNTY AND PROVIDE EXTENDED SERVICES OUT OF HIS LOCATIONS.

I'VE BEEN WORKING WITH SUPERVISOR BROWN IN THE SELIGMAN AREA TO PRODUCE AND TO PROVIDE THAT OPPORTUNITY FOR TELEHEALTH THAT YOU WERE REFERRING TO.

SO PARTNERSHIP BETWEEN THE LIBRARY, THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT, IT, AND THE FACILITIES DEPARTMENT, AND WE WERE ABLE TO CREATE AN AREA THERE THAT CAN BE USED INTERMITTENTLY FOR THE TELEHEALTH.

IT'S NOT BEING AS USED AS MUCH AS WE WOULD HOPE, BUT IT'S CREATING THAT OPPORTUNITY AND IT'S THAT SORT OF PARTNERSHIP.

LET'S NOT MISREPRESENT THAT PARTICULAR STATISTIC.

IT IS NOT BEING USED AT ALL.

AT THIS MOMENT, THAT MAY BE MORE EDUCATION AND TRAINING THAN IT MAY BE.

YES, WE WOULD HOPE THAT IT WOULD BE USED A LOT MORE, AT LEAST SOME, AND I WISH THE COMMUNITY WOULD USE IT A LITTLE BIT MORE, ESPECIALLY SOME OF THE CONVERSATIONS WE HAD WITH SOME OF THE REPRESENTATIVES FROM THE COMMUNITY.

WELL, IT'S CERTAINLY AVAILABLE AND THERE HAS BEEN A LOT OF COMMUNICATION TO THE PEOPLE OUT THERE, BUT THEY'VE CHOSEN TO GO TO A BRICK AND MORTAR FACILITY IN WILLIAMS INSTEAD.

SO WE HAVE TO TAKE THAT INTO CONSIDERATION, AND ON THAT SAME VEIN, WITH THINGS THAT HAVE BEEN CHANGED AS FAR AS PROCESS AND PROCEDURES, AND SOME OF OUR DEPARTMENTS, UP TO 40% OF THEIR STAFF ARE NO LONGER COMING TO WORK MONDAY THROUGH FRIDAY, AND THEREFORE, WHAT ARE WE DOING WITH THAT SPACE THAT WAS, QUOTE, MADE AVAILABLE TO US, YOU KNOW, AND THEIR PROMISE BUT THEY KEEP TELLING US THEY NEED MORE SPACE WHEN THEY'VE NEVER USED UP THEIRS APPROPRIATELY OR THE WAY WE BELIEVE THEY SHOULD USE IT.

YES, SIR, AND I THINK THAT PLAYS DIRECTLY INTO THE CONVERSATION OF I WILL ECHO THAT WITH THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT.

HEALTH DEPARTMENT'S BEEN TOLD YEARS AGO THAT WE KNEW WE HAD A GROWTH PROBLEM, AND IT WAS TAKING PLACE IN THE PRESCOTT VALLEY AND CHINO VALLEY AREAS. WE DID SEVERAL REPORTS AND STUDIES IN REGARDS TO WHO WAS ACTUALLY GOING TO THE PRESCOTT VALLEY FACILITY, WHICH IS NOW OVERCROWDED, SUPPOSEDLY, AND FOUND THAT MOST OF THOSE PEOPLE LIVE IN PAULDEN AND IN CHINO VALLEY.

WELL, IF THAT'S THE CASE, WHY DON'T WE BUILD ONE IN CHINO VALLEY OR PAULDEN TO SERVICE THIS POPULATION, ESPECIALLY WITH ITS GROWTH, AND IT HASN'T GONE WELL WITH THE, SHALL WE SAY, THE DIRECTOR IN THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT.

SO ANOTHER THING I DON'T SEE THIS ADDRESSING IS WHAT ABOUT THE ADJACENT FACILITIES THAT HAVE TO BE TAKEN INTO CONSIDERATION.

WHAT ABOUT THE CORONER'S OFFICE? RIGHT NOW, WE ONLY HAVE FACILITIES TO HAVE TEN BODIES AT A TIME THERE.

SO I DON'T THINK THAT'S QUITE WORKING OUT WELL, ESPECIALLY WITH WHEN WE SAW THE NEED IN 2021 THAT, YOU KNOW, IT WAS EXTREME BECAUSE OF COVID AND WE COULD NOT ADDRESS IT AND HAD TO USE TRAILERS.

SO TAKING THAT AND LOOKING INTO THINKING YOU HAVE TO ALSO WONDER ABOUT NEXT DOOR WHICH IS THE SHERIFF'S PROPERTY ROOM.

THE MORE AND MORE THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT GROWS AND THE MORE ACTIVITY, THEY SEE MORE NEED FOR THEM IN THEIR PROPERTY ROOM, BUT I DON'T SEE ANYBODY

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ADDRESSING THOSE TWO ISSUES.

SO JUST TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, SUPERVISOR BROWN CHAIRMAN BROWN, IT DIDN'T LAND ON MY LITTLE CHART.

MY CHART ONLY WENT SO FAR.

THE STEERING COMMITTEE AND I AND MYSELF DISCUSSED THOSE MATTERS.

THOSE BUILDINGS ARE ACTUALLY IN THE COMPLETE REPORT.

THERE'S THEY'VE IDENTIFIED THEM BOTH THE MEDICAL EXAMINER AND EVIDENCE IMPOUND AS NEEDING ADDITIONAL SPACE, AND SO IT'S ON OUR OVERALL MASTER LIST.

IT JUST HASN'T MADE THE FIRST PASS, AND THAT'S PART OF WHERE WE GOT TO COME BACK AND PRIORITIZE SOME OF THESE THINGS.

YOU KNOW, LET ME ASK YOU A QUESTION.

IS GURLEY STREET ON THAT LIST? YEAH, IT IS.

IT'S ON THE LIST EVEN THOUGH WE'RE SUPPOSED TO BE MOVING FORWARD FOR THE LAST FOREVER.

PUT IT ON THE LIST AS A PROJECT BECAUSE I'M NOT FUNDED FOR IT THIS YEAR.

SO I HAVEN'T ACTUALLY STARTED THAT PROJECT IN EARNEST, AND SO IT IS SOMETHING AND IT'S SOMETHING I NEED TO PAY ATTENTION TO AS A RESOURCE ALLOCATION FOR MY DEPARTMENT.

SO IT DID MAKE THE LIST AS NUMBER ONE, AND IT THERE IS SO MUCH MORE.

HONESTLY, I THINK WE COULD DO THREE MORE OF THESE SHEETS REALLY DO IDENTIFY EVERYTHING IN HERE IN DETAIL THAT WAS IDENTIFIED BY GENSLER AND EXPRESSED BY THE DEPARTMENTS.

THERE'S A LOT OF NEEDS I'VE JOKED ABOUT.

THIS POTENTIALLY COULD BE A RETIREMENT PROJECT FOR ME, AND I'VE GOT A LOT OF YEARS LEFT TO GIVE THE COUNTY, BUT THERE'S A LOT, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE BEEN AND KATHERINE SAID IT, WE'VE BEEN VERY EFFICIENT AT TAKING CARE OF OUR BUILDINGS AND FINDING SPACE FOR PEOPLE BUT A LOT OF TIMES WHEN WE FOUND SPACE FOR PEOPLE, IT CAME AT THE SACRIFICE OF A BREAK ROOM OF A CONFERENCE ROOM, SPLITTING AN OFFICE IN HALF.

A LOT OF THINGS THAT, YEAH, GAVE SOMEBODY THEIR OWN PRIVATE SPACE, BUT WE'VE REDUCED THEIR WORKING SPACE.

WE'VE TAKEN AWAY FROM SOME OF THE AMENITIES THAT ARE AVAILABLE, WHETHER IT BE CONFERENCE OR BREAK ROOMS OR EVEN THEIR OWN ABILITY TO MEET WITH THE PUBLIC SOMETIMES.

SO WE'VE DONE IT AT A DETRIMENT TO OURSELVES, AND IT'S WORKED, AND WE'VE BEEN VERY CONSERVATIVE IN THAT SENSE, BUT WE'RE FINALLY AT THE POINT WHERE I'VE GOT NO MORE BREAK ROOMS TO COMMANDEER.

I'VE GOT NO MORE CONFERENCE ROOMS I CAN CHOP UP.

I'M OUT OF MANUFACTURING SPACE FROM NOTHING, AND SO WE'VE EITHER WE'VE GOT TO CHANGE SOMETHING EITHER IN OUR MODEL AND MAYBE THAT'S TAKING ADVANTAGE OF THOSE DEPARTMENTS WHO CAN EXERCISE THE WORK FROM HOME.

IT'S THE DENSIFICATION.

YOU KNOW, IF WE CAN FIND AN OPPORTUNITY WHERE PEOPLE CAN SHARE OFFICES BECAUSE THEY ONLY COME IN 1 OR 2 DAYS A WEEK.

THAT'S A GREAT USE OF OUR RESOURCES.

WELL, THE OTHER THING IS, I WAS LISTENING TO A COMMENT MADE BY THE REGISTRAR TODAY ON THE RADIO ON THE WAY OVER HERE, AND I ALSO HEARD ONE YESTERDAY, AND SHE'S TALKING ABOUT HOW SHE NEEDS MORE SPACE.

I THOUGHT WE JUST SPENT $200,000 PLUS, YOU KNOW, TO RENOVATE THE EXISTING SPACE SHE HAS AT GURLEY STREET AND IF THAT BE THE CASE OR NOT, GURLEY STREET, I'M SORRY, FAIR STREET.

IF THAT BE THE CASE, WHY DID WE SPEND THAT MONEY JUST TO SATISFY A POLITICAL WHIM? IT WAS MY UNDERSTANDING IS IT WAS PRIMARILY AROUND TRANSPARENCY.

THEY DID GET A LITTLE MORE SPACE IN THERE, BUT THE BIG THING WAS TO BRING ALL OF THE SIGNATURE VERIFICATION, VERIFICATION, EVERYTHING THAT WAS HAPPENING IN THE BACK ROOM TO BRING IT UP INTO A MORE CENTRALIZED LOCATION WHERE WE COULD PUT WINDOWS IN FRONT OF IT.

SO THE PRIMARY GOAL OF THAT WAS TO CREATE THE HUGE TRANSPARENCY SO THAT THE PUBLIC COULD SEE THE PROCESSING OF ALL OF THE BALLOTS.

THERE WAS A TINY BIT OF GROWTH IN THERE, BUT IT WAS MY UNDERSTANDING THAT I KNEW THAT IT WAS NOT THE END ALL FOR US.

WELL, IT INCREASED THE SIZE OF THE LOBBY FOR THE REGISTRAR'S OFFICE, WHICH I DON'T THINK NEEDED TO BE DONE PERSONALLY, BUT YOU COULD HAVE PUT IN WINDOWS AND IT WOULD HAVE BEEN A LOT CHEAPER WAY TO GO, ESPECIALLY WHEN YOU'RE TURNING AROUND AND SAYING, I NEED TO HAVE MORE SPACE NOW ANYWAY.

SO ANYWAY, MR. GREGORY, I'M SORRY TO START OUT WITH WHO'S ON THE STEERING COMMITTEE? SO IT'S MYSELF, MAURY, MARTY, JEREMY DYE, AND WENDY ROSS.

OKAY, AND WHY ISN'T YCSO ON THAT? SO YOU'LL SEE, ONE OF THE OTHER RECOMMENDATIONS THAT'S IN HERE IS TO DO A SEPARATE STUDY FOR LIBRARIES AND SUBSTATIONS THAT WOULD REALLY DRILL DOWN INTO THEIR SPECIFIC OPERATIONS, WHICH IS THE BIGGEST ASK THAT THEY HAVE.

THE BIGGEST NEED THEY'VE GOT IS ALL THESE SUB STATIONS THAT ARE SUB PAR.

THEY'VE GOT ONE THAT FUNCTIONS REALLY WELL FOR THEM IN BLACK CANYON CITY, AND THEY'D LIKE TO DUPLICATE THAT MODEL OR SOMETHING SIMILAR TO THAT IN ALL THE OTHER COMMUNITIES.

YOU GO TO ASH FORK AND IT'S A SINGLE WIDE TRAILER.

YOU GO TO SELIGMAN AND THEY'RE IN THE BACK HALF OF THE COURTS, AND IT'S A LITTLE BIT BETTER THAN ASH FORK, BUT IT'S NOT MUCH SPACE.

SO WE'VE GOT A LOT OF COMMUNITIES WE NEED TO ADDRESS THERE ON A BROADER SCALE, AND I WOULD LOVE TO DO SOMETHING VERY SPECIFIC TO YCSO SPECIFICALLY LOOKING AT THE SUBSTATIONS AND HOW CAN WE ADDRESS THAT? WE CAN LOOK AT LOCATIONS.

DO WE NEED TO MODIFY ANY LOCATIONS? IS THERE BETTER LOCATIONS FOR THEM? THAT WOULD BE, I THINK, A BETTER TIME TO REALLY DRILL IT DOWN FOR THOSE GUYS.

OKAY, AND I NOTICED A LOT OF THE PROJECTS INVOLVE YCSO AND I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT.

THEY ARE THE BIGGEST DEPARTMENT IN THE COUNTY.

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THEY AND OUR BIGGEST EXPENSE.

SO HAVING THEIR EXPERTISE ON THAT STEERING COMMITTEE I THINK WOULD BE VERY IMPORTANT.

SO THAT, AND THEN I NOTICED I'M LOOKING AT ALL THE, THE, THE DEPARTMENT, THE GROWTH WHEN WE'RE GOING TO PUT ADDITIONAL NEW BUILDINGS.

PRESCOTT VALLEY IS OUR LARGEST MUNICIPALITY AND WE'RE FORECASTING 15% GROWTH IN THAT AREA.

IT'S DOUBLE ANYWHERE ELSE IN THE COUNTY.

WHY AREN'T WE PUSHING MORE INFRASTRUCTURE WHERE OUR GROWTH IS HAPPENING IN THAT AREA? BECAUSE THAT'S WHERE MOST OF OUR CITIZENS ARE GOING TO BE.

THAT'S OUR GROWTH AREAS RIGHT NOW, 15%.

I THINK THE CLOSEST ONE TO THAT WAS MAYBE EIGHT 8 TO 11%, BUT 11%, I BELIEVE.

SO YOU SEE THOSE GROWTH AREAS AND THAT'S IN THE MUNICIPALITIES AND THE UNINCORPORATED AREAS WHEN I LOOKED AT THE HEAT MAP.

SO I JUST THINK WE DON'T NEED TO DECENTRALIZE EVERYTHING, BUT WE ALSO NEED TO LOOK TO THE FUTURE TO SEE WHERE OUR GROWTH IS GOING TO BE, AND I THINK THAT'S IMPORTANT BECAUSE WE'RE BUILDING OUT FOR 20 YEARS.

I DON'T THINK WE NEED TO JUST KEEP GROWING IN THE AREAS WHERE PRESCOTT'S PRETTY STAGNANT RIGHT NOW, AND YOU HAVE THE VERDE VALLEY IS GROWING AT 8%.

SO I KNOW COTTONWOOD AND CAMP VERDE IS GROWING PRETTY QUICK TOO.

SO I'D LIKE TO SEE MORE SERVICES PROVIDED IN THOSE AREAS.

WHEN WE LOOK AT IT AND THEN ARE WE COMMUNICATING WITH THEM DURING THE STUDY BECAUSE WE WANT TO CO-LOCATE SERVICES AND NOT SAME TAXPAYERS PAYING FOR A LOT OF THESE FACILITIES, DO WE CONTACT EACH JURISDICTION AND SAID, HEY, WHERE CAN WE CO-LOCATE SERVICES, WHERE WE CAN BUILD COMPLEXES TOGETHER, WHERE IT'S ACTUALLY SAVING US A LOT MORE MONEY THAN JUST COUNTY BEING ON AN ISLAND VERSUS THE CITIES AND I THINK THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY HERE TO BUILD AND CO-LOCATE SERVICES WITH THE MUNICIPALITIES.

SO I THINK THAT'S IMPORTANT THAT I'D LIKE.

DO WE COMMUNICATE WITH THEM? SO GREAT QUESTIONS.

I THINK THAT'S A PERFECT IDEA AND A PERFECT CONCEPT.

I'M JUST NOT SURE RIGHT NOW IS THE RIGHT TIME.

I THINK THE FIRST THING WE'VE GOT TO DO AS A COUNTY IS PRIORITIZE OUR BUILDINGS, BECAUSE WE COULD CERTAINLY WORK ON AN AGREEMENT WITH A COMMUNITY, AND THEN IF THAT PROJECT GOT PUSHED DOWN THE ROAD, THEN WE'VE GOT THE COMMUNITY WAITING, KIND OF WAITING IN THE WINGS FOR US TO COME AROUND TO IT.

SO I THINK IT WOULD BE GOOD FOR US TO UNDERSTAND OUR PRIORITY LIST AND FIGURE OUT WHERE WE WANT TO GO, AND THEN ONCE WE KNOW WE WANT TO BUILD SOMETHING IN AN AREA, THEN LET'S FOSTER THAT PARTNERSHIP AND WE'LL WORK ON SOME OF THE DETAILS THERE.

YEAH, AND I JUST NOTICED THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT BUILD OUTS NOW, AND I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT FOR US THAT WOULD BE A VERY IMPORTANT CONVERSATION TO HAVE, AND THEN ALSO ON THE COMMUNITY PORTION OF IT.

DO WE REACH OUT TO OUR DIFFERENT COMMUNITIES, FINDING OUT WHAT SERVICES THEY'D LIKE TO SEE? BECAUSE THAT'S WHO WE SERVE.

SO AND WE ARE THE PRIMARY GOVERNMENT FOR UNINCORPORATED AREAS.

SO I'D LIKE TO SEE RESOURCES REACHING OUT.

IF WE'RE TALKING ABOUT 20 YEARS IN THE FUTURE, I THINK THAT WOULD BE IMPORTANT FOR US TO LOOK AT ALSO.

SO, IF I MAY, MR. CHAIRMAN, TO RESPOND TO SUPERVISOR GREGORY'S COMMENTS, WHICH I APPRECIATE.

I THINK PART OF THIS BOILS DOWN TO FINDING THE RIGHT BALANCE.

YOU'RE EXACTLY RIGHT.

WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE GROWTH PROJECTIONS, PRESCOTT VALLEY IS WHERE THE MOST GROWTH IS GOING TO OCCUR, BUT I THINK WE HAVE TO BE COGNIZANT OF DISINVESTING IN WHERE WE'RE CURRENTLY LOCATED AND THE COST OF PICKING UP AND MOVING.

SO I THINK, AGAIN, YOU'RE EXACTLY CORRECT TO THINK ABOUT HOW DO WE START ADDRESSING THAT GROWTH? AND A COUPLE OF ITEMS THAT I HAVE NOTED.

I THINK YOU'RE AWARE THE TOWN OF PRESCOTT VALLEY HAS SOME THOUGHTS ABOUT PARTNERSHIP THERE.

YES. WE DIDN'T GET INTO THAT TODAY.

WHEN WE GET INTO THE DECISION MAKING IN THE NEXT STAGE, THAT WILL VERY MUCH BE A PART OF THAT.

WHEN YOU LOOK AT HEALTH SERVICES AND THEIR NEEDS IN PRESCOTT VALLEY, THERE ARE CONVERSATIONS AGAIN, VERY PRELIMINARY WITH THE COLLEGE ABOUT WHAT COULD A PARTNERSHIP LOOK LIKE THERE TO EXPAND OUR PRESENCE IN PRESCOTT VALLEY? WHEN I LOOK AT ADULT PROBATION, WE SAY IT'S IN PRESCOTT VALLEY, BUT IT FEELS LIKE IT'S IN DEWEY-HUMBOLDT, YOU KNOW.

THE STUDY SUGGESTS WE NEED TO ABANDON, QUITE FRANKLY, THAT PROPERTY AND BRING THEM BACK IN.

WE'VE HAD CONVERSATIONS AGAIN WITH THE TOWN OF PRESCOTT VALLEY.

THEY MAY HAVE SOME BUILDING THERE THAT WOULD BE FEASIBLE FOR US TO TALK ABOUT SOME VERSION OF EXCHANGE, PERHAPS, AND CREATING MORE OF A FOCUS.

SO I THINK THE REPORT STARTS TO GET TO WHERE YOU SUGGEST WE NEED TO GO, AND AGAIN, I AGREE WITH YOU.

IF THAT'S WHERE THE GROWTH IS, WE NEED TO START RESPONDING TO IT.

SO I THINK WE DIDN'T GET TO IT IN TODAY'S PRESENTATION, BUT SOME OF THOSE CONCEPTS AND BEGINNING TO ADDRESS THAT ARE HERE.

I JUST NOTICED THE NEW BUILDS PRESCOTT, AND THEN COTTONWOOD, I DON'T SEE ANYTHING WHERE OUR GROWTH AREAS ARE AT CHINO VALLEY, WHICH IS 11% PRESCOTT VALLEY, 15%, THE VERDE VALLEY AT 8%.

I JUST THINK WE REALLY NEED TO CONCENTRATE ON THAT IN OUR FUTURE GROWTH, AND THEN HOW WE WANT TO PROVIDE SERVICES IN THE FUTURE, AND A LOT OF IT'S GOING TO BE TELECONFERENCE

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CALLS OR ZOOM DOCTOR'S APPOINTMENTS AND DIFFERENT THINGS LIKE THAT WE NEED TO REALLY THINK ABOUT WHERE WE'RE GOING TO BE AT IN THE FUTURE AND HOW WE NEED TO PROVIDE THOSE SERVICES TO OUR COMMUNITIES.

SO IN TALKING ABOUT CHINO IN PARTICULAR, THOSE OTHER WHEN YOU START TO GET A LITTLE MORE REMOTE, I THINK THAT'S WHERE THE SUBSTATION CONVERSATION AND THE LIBRARY.

WE'RE FOCUSING ON LIBRARY, BUT THE CREATION OF THESE SERVICE HUBS THAT WE'VE TALKED ABOUT PREVIOUSLY, I THINK THAT'S WHERE THAT CAN COME INTO PLAY.

RIGHT, AND THEN I KNOW BRANDON MENTIONED ABOUT THE SUBSTATIONS.

IT'S AT THE END OF THE CONVERSATION.

I KNOW YOU SAID THAT IT'S NOT, BUT IF YOU LOOK AT I KNOW IN MY DISTRICT AND I KNOW QUITE A FEW IN CRAIG'S AND DONNA'S DISTRICTS WERE OPERATING OUT OF BUSINESSES, SCHOOLS, TRAILERS THERE'S A LOT BETTER PRESENCE WE CAN HAVE IN THOSE COMMUNITIES BECAUSE THAT'S WHERE WE'RE REPRESENTING THOSE COMMUNITIES AND I THINK WE GOT A BREAD STORE IN ONE IN THE VOC THAT WE ACTUALLY, YOU KNOW, AND I KNOW CRAIG'S GOT QUITE A FEW, TRAILERS THEY OPERATE OUT OF AND BUILDINGS THAT NEED TO BE UPGRADED, AND I THINK WE'RE OPERATING ON A SCHOOL IN MAYER.

BLACK CANYON CITY IS A GOOD SUBSTATION AND IT'S A GOOD EXAMPLE.

I'D LIKE TO SEE HOW THAT WOULD GROW OUT AND HOW WE CAN GO FORWARD WITH THAT TOO.

SO, YEAH. MR. CHAIRMAN, IF I MAY, ONE FOLLOW UP TO THAT SUPERVISOR GREGORY WE TALKED ABOUT OR I USE THE TERM BALANCE, WE NEED TO BALANCE THE INVESTMENT WE'VE ALREADY GOT WITH WITH ABANDONING IT AND RECREATING BASED ON GROWTH AND AGAIN, FINDING WHAT MAKES SENSE FOR US.

I THINK THAT THIS IS THE START OF A TRUE 20 YEAR LOOK AHEAD, A REAL PLAN FOR HOW WE'RE GOING TO ADDRESS GROWTH IN OUR FACILITIES NEEDS THAT, QUITE FRANKLY, WE HAVEN'T HAD IN THE PAST, BUT WITH THAT PLAN, I THINK WE ALSO NEED TO REMAIN FLEXIBLE TO OPPORTUNITIES IF AND WHEN THEY PRESENT THEMSELVES TO BE ABLE TO PIVOT AND SAY THAT'S NEW INFORMATION WE DIDN'T HAVE, MAKES SENSE THAT WE BEGIN PURSUING THAT NOW TOO AND AGAIN, I GAVE YOU A COUPLE OF THOSE EXAMPLES, BUT I'M SURE THERE'S GOING TO BE OTHERS.

RIGHT. YEAH. YEAH.

I WOULD JUST TACK ON TO THAT IF I MIGHT, MAURY, AND I SO AGREE, JAMES, WITH WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, PARTICULARLY IN OUR RURAL AREAS WHERE WE ALREADY KNOW, FOR EXAMPLE, THAT WE DON'T HAVE THE HEALTH CARE SERVICES THAT WE NEED IN THE VERDE VALLEY.

YOU KNOW, THAT'S SO IMPORTANT THAT IT'S CLOSE IN PROXIMITY, WHETHER IT'S AN URGENT CARE, A LAB, A BLOOD DRAW LAB, EVEN, YOU KNOW, SOME OF THOSE VERY BASIC THINGS THAT WE CAN THEN TIE IN WITH.

WHAT I THINK YOUR VISION IS, BRANDON, WITH OUR COMMUNITY HEALTH, AND HOW DO WE DO THAT? HOW DO WE INTEGRATE NOW THAT WE HAVE TWO VANS AS ASSETS? HOW DO WE INTEGRATE WITH WHAT'S OUT IN OUR COMMUNITY IN TERMS OF SPACE AND PROVIDING THE SERVICES THAT IN OUR MORE RURAL AREAS WE ABSOLUTELY NEED? AND, YOU KNOW, IT'S WORTH NOTING THAT NIH JUST LOST ITS TRAUMA ONE CERTIFICATION.

SO, YOU KNOW, WE'RE NOT THERE YET FOR THAT SORT OF THING, BUT WE SHOULD HAVE THAT IN OUR DATA BANK IN TERMS OF WHAT ARE THE BASIC HEALTH CARE SERVICES THAT WE SHOULD BE OFFERING AND WHERE THAT ARE ALREADY NEEDED BECAUSE OF THE DEMOGRAPHICS OF OUR MORE RURAL AREAS.

THESE ARE FOLKS WHO ARE NOT GETTING OUT OF THEIR HOMES VERY OFTEN.

WHEN THEY DO, THEY DON'T GO FAR AND THEY NEED BLOOD DRAWS FAIRLY REGULARLY AND SO JUST SIMPLE SERVICES LIKE THAT I THINK ARE SO IMPORTANT AND THERE'S A POSSIBILITY FOR DENSIFICATION BECAUSE WE CAN CO-LOCATE, WE CAN DO PUBLIC, PRIVATE THERE'S LOTS OF OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO HAVE A PRESENCE, WHETHER IT'S IN A MUNICIPALITY BUILDING OR SOMEWHERE ELSE IN THE COMMUNITY THAT'S AVAILABLE SPACE THAT WE SHOULD BE LOOKING AT.

MR. CHAIRMAN, ONE OTHER PRIMARY EXAMPLE THAT I FORGOT TO INCLUDE ON THAT LIST.

WE KNOW WE HAVE A REQUEST IN TO THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT FOR SIGNIFICANT DOLLARS FOR THE POTENTIAL OF COUNTYWIDE DISPATCH EOC.

THAT WOULD BE YET ANOTHER EXAMPLE THAT WE WOULD PROBABLY MODIFY OUR PLAN IF WE DO, IN FACT RECEIVE THOSE DOLLARS AND PIVOT IN THAT DIRECTION.

SO AGAIN, BALANCING THE PLAN WITH THOSE OPPORTUNITIES WHEN THEY PRESENT THEMSELVES, AND, CHAIRMAN, IF I MAY PIGGYBACK ON THAT, I CAN'T ECHO ENOUGH THE THOUGHT AND THE CONCEPT OF HAVING A PLAN.

I LOVE THE THOUGHT OF HAVING A GOOD PLAN, BUT LIKE MAURY SAID, IT'S GOT TO BE FLEXIBLE BECAUSE THINGS CHANGE.

THINGS WILL CHANGE THE WHOLE WAY THROUGH, AND WE MAY GET 1 OR 2 PROJECTS INTO IT AND REALIZE SOMETHING'S GOT TO MODIFY BECAUSE WE'VE GOT A DIFFERENT PARTNER, WE'VE GOT A DIFFERENT FUNDING SOURCE.

THERE'S SO MANY THINGS THAT CAN PLAY INTO THAT, BUT I LOVE THE THOUGHT OF HAVING A PLAN SO THAT WE CAN ALL MARCH FORWARD, AT LEAST TO A COMMON GOAL.

ONE OTHER THING I'D LIKE TO ADD IN THERE IS CIRCLING BACK TO SOME OF THE RURAL COMMUNITIES AND WHATNOT.

AGAIN, I WANT EVERYBODY TO KNOW I PUT IT AT THE END, NOT BECAUSE I THINK IT'S AT THE END.

THIS COULD ACTUALLY HAVE ITS OWN GRAPH IN HERE.

SOME OF THESE PROJECTS COULD RUN CONCURRENTLY WITH SOME OF THE OTHER MODIFICATIONS THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT DOING FOR THE REST OF THE SERVICES BUILDINGS.

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YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE MODELS THAT SUPERVISOR OBERG AND I HAVE BEEN TALKING ABOUT IS DOWN IN THE CONGRESS AREA.

WHAT I LOVE ABOUT THAT ONE IS WE'VE GOT A BUILT IN RENTER.

WE'VE GOT A RENTER DOWN THERE WHO WANTS MORE SPACE AND IS WILLING TO PAY FOR MORE SPACE, AND SO WE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO GET A LITTLE POSITIVE INCOME COMING BACK IN TO OFFSET OUR INVESTMENT THERE.

I'VE TALKED TO COREY AT THE LIBRARY DISTRICT.

WICKENBURG IS IN A MODULAR, COREY AND LIBRARY ARE IN A MODULAR.

COREY WOULD LOVE TO HAVE A BRICK AND MORTAR BUILDING.

HE'D LOVE TO BE THAT COMMUNITY HUB DOWN THERE.

COREY WOULD WOULD BE WILLING TO PARTICIPATE IN SOME CAPACITY.

HE MAY BE ABLE TO WORK IN SOME OF HIS OWN FUNDING, POSSIBLY GET SOME GRANTS, MAYBE DO A LONG TERM LEASE BACK OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

SO WITH THAT ONE LOCATION, WE'VE GOT TWO POTENTIAL RENTERS THAT WILL REALLY SELF-FULFILL THAT BUILDING AND HELP PAY OUR DEBT SERVICE OR HOWEVER THAT BUILDING IS FINANCED AND THEN IT GIVES US AN OPPORTUNITY TO CREATE A COMMUNITY ROOM THAT COULD BE A FLEXIBLE SPACE SO THAT THE DIFFERENT DEPARTMENTS COULD GO DOWN THERE ONE DAY AT A TIME, IF THE NEED IS THERE, IT COULD BE RENTED OUT AS A COMMUNITY ROOM SO THAT WE CAN HAVE COMMUNITY SERVICES THERE, BUT THAT'S WHERE THAT MODEL REALLY COMES FROM, AND I LOVE THAT ONE, AND I THINK THAT SHOULD BE A LOCATION WE START WITH, AND THEN HOPEFULLY WE CAN DESIGN SOMETHING THAT WE CAN STAMP OUT IN EVERY COMMUNITY AND CREATE A BRAND FOR YAVAPAI COUNTY, AND ALL THESE DIFFERENT COMMUNITIES COULD LOOK AT A BUILDING AND GO, WELL, THAT'S THE SAME BUILDING I SAW OVER IN THE VOC IN SELIGMAN, IN BLACK CANYON OR WHEREVER THESE BUILDINGS ARE LOCATED, AND THE COMMUNITY GETS TO RECOGNIZE US AND OUR FACILITIES AND, AND THE SUBSTATIONS AND THE LIBRARIES, AND IT JUST BECOMES THAT COMMUNITY HUB.

IT WAS MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT WE ARE MOVING FORWARD WITH THE CONGRESS BUILDING.

I HAVE SUPPORTED THAT AS MUCH AS MR. OBERG HAS, AND WE BOTH AGREE THAT THIS NEEDS TO BE DONE IN THE FUTURE BECAUSE IT'S JUST THE FIRST, YOU KNOW, CONTACT AREA WITHIN OUR COUNTY UNTIL YOU GET TO YARNELL. YARNELL DOESN'T HAVE THE FACILITIES THAT WE MIGHT WANT TO HAVE IN THAT LOCATION, WHERE THIS IS ALREADY READILY AVAILABLE WITH PARTNERS FROM OUTSIDE THE COUNTY THAT WANT TO PARTICIPATE.

SO I DON'T KNOW.

I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY WE HAVEN'T MOVED FORWARD WITH THAT PERSONALLY, AND, YOU KNOW, I KNOW, I KNOW IT ALL COMES DOWN TO MONEY, BUT IT DOESN'T STOP FROM HAVING A WORKING GROUP TO, YOU KNOW, AT LEAST COME TOGETHER AND SAY WHAT IT IS THEY NEED OR DON'T NEED.

HAVE WE ADDRESSED THIS IN THIS REPORT? THAT PROJECT SPECIFICALLY? NO. WE HAVE HAD THOSE CONVERSATIONS WITH WICKENBURG HEALTH.

SO I HAVE A ROUGH IDEA OF WHAT THEY'RE LOOKING FOR, AND IT WOULD JUST REALLY BE A QUICK CONVERSATION WITH THE SO TO UNDERSTAND WHAT THEY NEED FOR A SUBSTATION.

THEY CURRENTLY HAVE A SUBSTATION UP AT A PARK, AND WE WOULD LOVE TO GET THAT SUBSTATION DOWN IN THIS BUILDING, AND SO I REALLY THINK THAT ONE THAT WHEN THAT TIME COMES AND THIS IS A BONA FIDE PROJECT AND I'M FUNDED, THAT I CAN ACTUALLY ENGAGE AN ARCHITECT.

THAT'S THE TIME I NEED TO ENGAGE AN ARCHITECT TO TRULY DO THE PROGRAMMING.

WELL, YOU NEED TO FIND OUT WHO'S GOING TO BE THE PARTNERS IN THIS WHOLE DEAL AND WHICH DEPARTMENTS, AS WELL AS THOSE AGENCIES THAT ARE OUTSIDE.

YOU'VE GOT A HOSPITAL THAT WE DON'T HAVE ANY DIRECT CONTACT WITH USUALLY, WHICH OUT OF WICKENBURG, BUT DO WE WANT DPS TO COHABITATE WITH US IN OUR SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT OR NOT? DO WE WANT TO HAVE SOMETHING DIFFERENT? DO WE WANT TO HAVE DIFFERENT COMMUNICATIONS SETUP? BECAUSE THIS DOESN'T IT'S NOT YOU CANNOT USE THE SYSTEM WE HAVE NOW TO MAKE BROADCASTS ALL THE WAY DOWN TO CONGRESS. THEY HAVE TO GO THROUGH SOME OTHER MEANS.

SO IT'S MY OPINION IS, IS WE SHOULD BE MOVING FORWARD SOMETHING WE DID, YOU KNOW, MANY YEARS AGO AT LEAST TEN YEARS AGO IS THAT WE DECIDED WE HAD SOME PRESSING ISSUES WITH THE PROBATION DEPARTMENT, AND I SEE THEM ALWAYS AT THE TABLE ASKING FOR MORE AND MORE AND MORE, AND I'M LOOKING AT THE PROBATION DEPARTMENTS.

WE GAVE THEM A BUILDING THAT WAS SUPPOSED TO HAVE TWO FLOORS OF THE THREE FLOORS, AND THEY'VE TAKEN ALL THREE FLOORS OVER THE COURSE OF TIME.

YOU KNOW, THE SAME THING HAPPENED WITH SIMILAR TO THAT WAS THE PUBLIC DEFENDER'S OFFICE IS THE ONLY ONE THAT WE BOUGHT THAT BUILDING SPECIFICALLY FOR THEM BECAUSE WE WERE PAYING RENTS EQUIVALENCE TO WHAT WAS THE BASICALLY THE PAYMENT WOULD HAVE BEEN IF WE BOUGHT IT OUTRIGHT AND IT'S ALMOST PAID OFF, WHICH I'M HAPPY TO HEAR ABOUT. SO IT'S JUST SEEMS LIKE TO ME WE HAVE COME UP WITH THOSE THINGS THAT WE BELIEVE ARE NECESSARY AND PRESENT, YOU KNOW, THAT NEED TO BE ADDRESSED.

I'M GLAD TO HEAR ABOUT BLACK CANYON CITY, AND BUT I'D LIKE TO VERY MUCH TO SEE THAT CONGRESS GETS ADDRESSED AS SOON AS POSSIBLE, BECAUSE THAT'S WHERE WE HAVE A LOT OF CONNECTING SERVICES THAT HAVE TO TAKE PLACE WHERE I DON'T KNOW ABOUT HOW MUCH SERVICE WE ACTUALLY PROVIDE TO PRESCOTT VALLEY, BECAUSE THEY ARE THEIR OWN CITY AND THEY HAVE THEIR OWN DEPARTMENTS AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

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SO I DON'T KNOW ABOUT THE URGENCY FOR THAT AREA.

YES, THEY ARE RESIDENTS OF THE COUNTY, BUT THEY'RE ALSO RESIDENTS OF THE CITY, AND MANY OF THE CITY SERVICES ARE THE FIRST ONES THEY GO TO, NOT US.

SO THAT'S JUST MY JUST MY THOUGHTS.

AGAIN, WE HAVEN'T BUILT ANYTHING IN CHINO AND PAULDEN OR ASH FORK AND FOREVER.

WELL, GREAT CONVERSATION AND I THINK THIS SHOWS WHY WE'RE GOING TO NEED ANOTHER STUDY SESSION SO WE CAN HAVE A LITTLE MORE TIME TO CONTINUE TO VET THIS OUT, AND I'M NOT OFFENDED IF YOU GUYS PICK AT THIS CHART AGAIN, YOU KNOW, WE AS A STEERING COMMITTEE JUST WE HAD TO START SOMEPLACE AND WE HAD TO GET THE CONVERSATION STARTED SOMEWHERE, AND SO NO, I THINK THIS IS A GREAT POINT, AND WE'VE GOT THIS CONVERSATION GOING.

WE'VE HAD THE STUDY THAT ADDRESSES A LOT OF ISSUES WE'RE GOING TO BE TALKING ABOUT.

IT'S A GOOD FORMAT, YOU KNOW, TO FOLLOW GOING FORWARD, AND PERSONALLY.

CHAIRMAN. GO AHEAD.

I'M SORRY. I'M SORRY.

YOU KNOW, I DID HAVE A COUPLE QUESTIONS, BUT YOU GO AHEAD, CHAIRMAN, TO FINISH YOUR STATEMENT.

I DIDN'T MEAN TO INTERRUPT.

WELL, GO AHEAD AND ASK THE QUESTIONS.

OKAY. SO, BRANDON, THANK YOU FOR ALL YOUR PRESENTATION AND EVERYTHING, BUT I'D LIKE TO ASK, YOU MENTIONED EARLIER THAT YOU DIDN'T HAVE THE REMODEL FOR GURLEY IN THE BUDGET.

I WAS ALWAYS UNDER THE IMPRESSION THAT WE HAD PUT MONEY AWAY FOR THAT REMODEL WAY BACK WHEN.

CAN YOU HELP ME OUT WITH THAT? SO I DON'T KNOW.

I COULDN'T SPEAK TO EXACTLY WHERE THE MONEY WAS STORED.

THAT WAS ADMINISTRATION MANAGED THAT, BUT, YES, WE DID HAVE A PROJECT THAT WAS DISCUSSED AND WITH A BUDGET AMOUNT AND A LOOSE PLAN, AND WE WERE MOVING FORWARD WITH THE ARCHITECT.

WE PROBABLY HAVE 60 TO 70% PLANS DONE FOR THAT, BUT WITH THE ONSET OF THE SPACE PLANNING REPORT COUNTY MANAGER HAD DECIDED IT WOULD BE APPROPRIATE FOR US TO REVISIT THAT AND ENSURE THAT WE WERE PROVIDING THE PROPER SPACE FOR EVERYBODY BASED UPON THE REPORT AND THE RECOMMENDATIONS THAT ARE COMING FROM GENSLER, AND SO WITH THAT, FUNDING WAS PULLED BACK AND I WAS ASKED TO WAIT THIS YEAR, AND SO NO FUNDING WAS ALLOCATED TO ME TO CONTINUE THE PROJECT AND CONTINUE DOING ANYTHING.

SO WE ARE IN A HOLDING PATTERN, AND NOW THAT WE HAVE THE FINAL REPORT, I BELIEVE WE'RE GOING TO REVISIT THAT AND MAKE SURE ALL THAT SPACE IS ALLOCATED CORRECTLY IN THERE, AND THEN THAT WILL PROBABLY BE THE FIRST PROJECT THAT KICKS OFF AS PART OF OUR MAJOR CAPITAL PLAN HERE.

WELL, MAYBE I'D JUST LIKE TO ASK FOR THE FUTURE THAT WHEN WE HAVE MONEY THAT HAS BEEN SET ASIDE AND IF THERE IS GOING TO BE A CHANGE OF PLANS THAT IF WE COULD I'M JUST SPEAKING FOR ME.

MAYBE I MISSED SOMETHING.

MAYBE I DIDN'T HEAR IT, BUT I'D LIKE TO KNOW WHERE THE MONEY WAS AT, AND I'D LIKE TO KNOW WHEN WE DECIDED NOT TO USE IT, AND WHERE DID WE MOVE IT? WHAT HAPPENED TO THE MONEY? SO, I MEAN, THAT'S KIND OF WHAT THE JOB IS HERE.

SO I'M JUST CURIOUS ABOUT THAT, AND I KNOW THAT THERE'S BEEN SOME WORK DONE IN THAT BUILDING BECAUSE I WENT AND VISITED, AND IT'S GOT A LOT OF RIPPED UP FLOORS, WALLS AND WHAT HAVE YOU, AND IT LOOKS LIKE IT WAS THAT KIND OF LIKE A, YOU KNOW, A HOLDING PATTERN, AND I GET THERE'S A CONVERSATION GOING ON AMONG OTHER DEPARTMENTS AND EVERYTHING, BUT I WAS PRETTY MUCH UNDER THE UNDERSTANDING WE HAD MONEY PUT AWAY FOR THAT REMODEL, AND SO I WOULD JUST LIKE TO KIND OF MAYBE REVISIT THAT ON ANOTHER MEETING.

IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE HERE, BUT I'D LIKE TO UNDERSTAND A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT THAT.

THE OTHER PROJECT IS DOWN THERE IN DEWEY.

YEAH. I THINK WE SHOULD SELL THAT FOR SURE.

I THINK I HEARD THAT COMMENT, DEFINITELY, AND SUPERVISOR GREGORY.

YEAH. I THINK THAT WHEN WE CAN COME TOGETHER WITH OTHER MUNICIPALITIES AND HAVE ONE BUILDING WHERE PEOPLE COULD COME, MAYBE VISIT THE COUNTY, VISIT THE CITY OR TOWN, I THINK THAT WOULD BE A MUCH BETTER USE OF TAXPAYER DOLLARS, AND SO, YEAH, THOSE ARE JUST A COUPLE OF THINGS THAT I HEARD AND JUST LIKE TO KEEP THINGS MOVING FORWARD, BUT WOULD LIKE TO KNOW A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT WHAT HAPPENED ON THAT GURLEY STREET REMODEL.

THANK YOU.

OH. I'M SORRY, MAURY, AND ONE LAST THING.

THE HOSPITAL SO PRESCOTT VALLEY, THEY HAD LONG BEFORE I EVER ARRIVED HERE.

YOU GUYS HAD THIS CONTRACT WITH THAT HOSPITAL.

MY UNDERSTANDING NOW WITH THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT IS THAT WE'RE AT A POINT WHERE WE'RE NOT PAYING ANYTHING FOR THAT SPACE, AND THAT'S WHY WE'RE

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THERE, AND HOW LONG DO WE HAVE? DO YOU HAVE AN IDEA? IS IT ABOUT TEN YEARS IN PRESCOTT VALLEY AND PRESCOTT VALLEY? I REALIZE IT'S NOT AN UNINCORPORATED AREA, BUT WHAT I WILL SAY IS THAT THERE ARE A LOT OF NEEDS OF THE COMMUNITY THAT DO GO THERE FOR THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT.

THANK YOU. MR. CHAIRMAN, IF I MAY ADDRESS SUPERVISOR MALLORY'S FIRST QUESTION ABOUT THE MONEY AND CHANGE OF PLANS.

THIS WAS PART OF OUR DISCUSSION AT BUDGET AND THE ISSUE, I'LL REMIND YOU, GOES BACK TO OUR EXPENDITURE LIMITATION ISSUE.

IT'S NOT THAT WE DON'T HAVE THE MONEY MONEY SET ASIDE TO DO THIS.

BECAUSE OF THE EXPENDITURE LIMITATION, WE HAVE NOT BEEN ABLE TO PROCEED WITH THE SPENDING OF THOSE DOLLARS AGAIN DUE TO THAT ARTIFICIAL LIMIT.

SO THAT'S WHY YOU'VE ALL MADE THE DECISION TO GO TO THE VOTERS THIS NOVEMBER, AND IN BROAD TERMS HERE, HOW I SEE THIS PLAYING OUT IS WE WILL SCHEDULE ANOTHER STUDY SESSION TO REALLY START TO GET INTO THE DETAILS, SEE WHERE THE BOARD WANTS TO GO IN TERMS OF, AS BRANDON SAID, HOW AGGRESSIVE WE WANT TO GET WITH THIS PLAN, HOW MUCH WE WANT TO TRY TO DO IT ONCE BUT MAKE THOSE DECISIONS, THEN WE NEED TO DEVELOP A TRUE FIVE YEAR CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN THAT MATCHES UP SOURCES OF FUNDS AND USES OF FUNDS THAT LAYS THAT ALL OUT VERY CLEARLY.

OUR BUDGET MANAGER WILL HELP US DO THAT STARTING SEPTEMBER 15TH.

BE ON BOARD VERY SHORTLY.

THEN WE NEED TO HAVE A CONVERSATION WITH FINANCING OPTIONS.

YOU KNOW, THE HISTORY OF THIS COUNTY HAS BEEN VERY CONSERVATIVE.

YOU'D LIKE TO PAY FOR CASH.

SOMETIMES THAT MAKES SENSE, SOMETIMES IT DOESN'T.

SO WE NEED TO ANALYZE ALL OF THAT AND THEN CREATE THE PLAN THAT WE KNOW GOING FORWARD, BUT AGAIN, SUPERVISOR MALLORY, IT'S NOT A MATTER OF NOT HAVING THE FUNDS THAT THEY'RE STILL NOT AVAILABLE.

IT WAS OUR INABILITY TO SPEND THOSE DUE TO OUR EXPENDITURE LIMITATIONS, AND THAT WAS ONE OF THE STRATEGIES THAT WE UTILIZED TO STAY WITHIN OUR EXPENDITURE LIMITATION, CURTAILING ON CAPITAL EXPENDITURES, AND QUITE FRANKLY, AS YOU MAY RECALL, CURTAILING SOME OF OUR ROAD MAINTENANCE.

WE'RE TO THAT POINT NOW TO LIVE WITH UNDER THAT LIMIT.

I THINK THE FRUSTRATION WITH THE BOARD IS, IS THAT WE'VE SEEN PARTIAL PROJECTS START.

WE BUILT A PUBLIC GARAGE JUST OFF OF UNION STREET, WHICH WAS SUPPOSED TO ACCOMMODATE THE EMPLOYEES AT GURLEY STREET.

THEN WE TURNED AROUND AND WE WENT FORWARD WITH GURLEY STREET TO THE POINT OF DOING ALL THE WORK ON THE EXTERIOR FOR THE PARKING AND PARKING AREA ON THAT BUILDING SPECIFICALLY, ESPECIALLY THE SALLY PORT.

SO WE SPENT A LOT OF MONEY MOVING FORWARD, AND THE QUESTION IS, WHY DIDN'T WE JUST KEEP GOING? AND IF TWO DEPARTMENTS ARE GOING TO BE SO, YOU KNOW, DIVIDED BETWEEN THEM ON WHAT'S GOING TO TAKE PLACE, WELL, MAYBE SOMEBODY ELSE NEEDS TO MAKE THE DECISION BECAUSE WE'RE THE ONES THAT HAVE TO KEEP MOVING.

IF WE DON'T, THESE THINGS ARE GOING TO COST US TEN TIMES WHAT THEY WERE ORIGINALLY GOING TO COST, AND THAT'S WHAT'S REALLY A SHAME.

THAT'S WHERE BUYING PREBUILT ESTABLISHMENTS DOES PAY OFF IN THE LONG RUN, BUT THERE ARE A LOT OF ISSUES THAT HAVE TO BE ADDRESSED WITH EACH ONE OF THESE DEPARTMENTS, AND THAT'S, YOU KNOW, DECISION MADE FOR PROBABLY A DIFFERENT BOARD.

WELL, I AGREE WITH THE DECISIONS NEED TO BE MADE.

THE OTHER PIECE WITH GURLEY IS SITUATIONS HAVE CHANGED.

WE WENT THROUGH THE PANDEMIC.

THE WAY PEOPLE WORK HAS CHANGED.

NOW YOU HEARD PAUL AND KATHERINE TALK ABOUT THAT.

WE'VE GOT EMPLOYEES WORKING REMOTELY.

SO THAT BEGS THE QUESTION, DO YOU STILL NEED THE AMOUNTS OF DEDICATED SQUARE FOOTAGE THAT YOU DID AT ONE TIME? ARE THERE OTHER OPTIONS WE NEED TO BE LOOKING AT TO ADDRESS SOME OF THOSE TO REDUCE THAT SQUARE FOOTAGE AMOUNT? NO, AND THERE'S OTHER ISSUES INVOLVED, LIKE WITH THE SUBSTATIONS FOR THE SHERIFF AND THE SHERIFF AND I HAVE TALKED ABOUT THIS BEFORE, IS THAT SUBSTATIONS ARE VERY IMPORTANT, BUT SOME OF OUR REMOTE SUBSTATIONS ARE EVEN GOT A BIGGER PROBLEM.

THEY DON'T HAVE ANYBODY THAT WANTS TO LIVE THERE.

OKAY. WHICH IS BAGDAD AND SELIGMAN.

SO IF WE'RE GOING TO HIRE DEPUTIES AND SAY WE'RE GOING TO PAY YOU WHAT WE DO, PAY THEM, WHICH IS A STIPEND FOR ACTUALLY WORKING IN THAT AREA AND DO WE NEED A BUNKHOUSE ARRANGEMENT.

WHAT DO WE NEED? THAT COURT IS ONE OF THE OLDEST COURTS IN THE COUNTY.

IT'S STILL GOT THE OLD JAIL CELL FROM 1900 IN IT.

SO EVEN THOUGH IT'S NOT USED.

GOT IT. DON'T LET THE FEDS HEAR THAT.

SO ANYWAY, THERE'S JUST OTHER THINGS THAT HAVE TO BE TAKEN INTO CONSIDERATION FOR NEEDS, AND THAT COURT IS ONE OF THE BUSIEST COURT JUDICIAL COURTS THAT WE HAVE IN THE COUNTY, AND IT DOESN'T EVEN HAVE A PUBLIC BATHROOM.

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YOU GOT TO GO ACROSS THE ALLEY TO GO TO THE LIBRARY AND HOPEFULLY THEY'RE OPEN.

SO YOU CAN GO IN THERE, AND, YOU KNOW, JIM'S POINTING OUT THE SAME THING.

IF WE GOT TO COME UP, COME UP WITH SOME ANSWERS AND WE GOT TO START MOVING INSTEAD OF TALKING ABOUT IT FOREVER, AND I'M FRUSTRATED OVER IT BECAUSE I THINK CARRIE'S PROJECT WAS A PRIME THING, THAT WE COULD HAVE MOVED FORWARD.

YES, THE LIMITATION IS THERE, BUT MAYBE WE SHOULD HAVE SAID NO TO A BUNCH OF OTHER THINGS SO WE COULD HAVE SPENT THE MONEY IN CONGRESS AND SO THERE YOU GO.

WELL, CHAIR, I'VE GOT A COUPLE COMMENTS AND MAYBE A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS, TOO.

FIRST OF ALL, THANK YOU FOR THE BRIEFING.

I KNOW IT WAS VERY HIGH LEVEL AND THERE'S A LOT OF DETAIL HERE WE DIDN'T HEAR TODAY, AND WE OBVIOUSLY NEED TO TAKE THAT INTO CONSIDERATION OVER THE NEXT FEW MONTHS.

I WILL SAY THAT FROM WHAT I'VE HEARD TODAY, BASICALLY, YOU DIDN'T TELL US ANYTHING WE DIDN'T ALREADY KNOW, BUT I THINK AT LEAST WHERE IT MIGHT HAVE BEEN SPECULATION OR SUPPOSITION, YOU KNOW, ON SOME PEOPLE'S PART IN THE PAST OBVIOUSLY, YOU'VE DONE A LOT OF DEFINITION AND ANALYSIS THAT, YOU KNOW, CONFIRMED A LOT OF OUR BELIEFS ON WHAT WE NEEDED.

SO FOR THAT REASON, I THINK THIS SPACE STUDY WAS VALUABLE.

I KNOW THAT THERE WAS A RELUCTANCE ON THE BOARD TO MOVE FORWARD ON THE CONGRESS THING BECAUSE EVERYBODY WAS SAYING, WELL, WE GOT TO WAIT FOR THE SPACE STUDY, AND I KNOW WE THOUGHT WHEN WE FIRST APPROVED THIS BACK IN MAY OF 23, WE THOUGHT IT'D BE DONE IN ABOUT SIX MONTHS, AND IT'S 14 MONTHS LATER.

WE'RE SITTING HERE TALKING ABOUT IT.

SO OBVIOUSLY WE LOST SOME TIME THERE, AND I AGREE WITH THE CHAIR THAT, YOU KNOW, THE LONGER WE WAIT, THE PRICES HAVE GONE UP.

WE'VE SEEN THAT RIGHT NOW WITH A LOT OF OUR ARPA PROJECTS WHERE PEOPLE A YEAR AGO, TWO YEARS AGO SAID, WE'RE GOING TO DO THIS PROJECT FOR X AND WHEN THEY GOT ACTUALLY IN A POSITION WHERE THEY COULD GO FORWARD WITH THAT PROJECT, THE PRICES HAVE GONE UP CONSIDERABLY AND A NUMBER OF PEOPLE HAD TO CANCEL THOSE PROJECTS.

SO IT'S SO UNFORTUNATE THAT, YOU KNOW, THAT'S I GUESS, THE SITUATION WE LIVE IN TODAY.

I THINK IT'S ALSO IMPORTANT TO MAKE SURE THAT, YOU KNOW, WE'RE A FAR FLUNG COUNTY.

YOU TALK ABOUT BAGHDAD, YOU CAN TALK ABOUT CONGRESS.

YOU CAN TALK ABOUT SELIGMAN, ASH FORK.

YOU CAN TALK ABOUT BLACK CANYON CITY.

YOU KNOW, WE GOT A VERY LARGE COUNTY, AND I DO KNOW WHEN I TALK TO PEOPLE IN THE RURAL AREAS, THEY SAY, WHERE'S THE COUNTY? WHERE'S THE COUNTY WITH CERTAIN SERVICES? DEVELOPMENT SERVICES PERMIT HELPING THEM WITH YOU KNOW, PROJECTS THAT THEY WANT.

NOW, ARE WE GOING TO PUT SOMEBODY DOWN THERE FROM PUT A BUILDING FOR DEVELOPMENT SERVICES DOWN IN CONGRESS? NO, BUT WE CAN PROBABLY HAVE DEVELOPMENT SERVICES GO DOWN THERE ONCE A WEEK TO THE LIBRARY OR SOME BUILDING.

OR IF WE DO GET THIS BUILDING PUT TOGETHER THAT WE'VE TALKED ABOUT FOR CONGRESS THAT PEOPLE COULD COME IN THERE AND THEY COULD ACTUALLY WORK THEIR PROJECTS WITH SOMEBODY THAT CAN ANSWER THE QUESTIONS IMMEDIATELY FOR THEM, RATHER THAN CALLING UP TO PRESCOTT, AND, YOU KNOW, MAYBE THEY GET SOMEBODY, BUT NORMALLY THEY DON'T AND THEY HAVE TO WAIT FOR SOMEBODY TO CALL BACK AND THEY GET FRUSTRATED.

TYPICAL WITH MEDICAL.

I KNOW THERE'S A SIGNIFICANT PROBLEM WITH MEDICAL AND A LOT OF THESE RURAL AREAS, AND, YOU KNOW, I KNOW SOME OF THE FIRE STATIONS ACTUALLY BUILT TREATMENT ROOMS IN THEIR FIRE STATIONS SO THAT COUNTY HEALTH COULD GO OUT THERE AND UTILIZE THOSE IF THEY COULD GET SOME STAFFING THERE TO HELP PUT ON A CLINIC.

SO, YOU KNOW, I THINK THERE'S A LOT OF OPPORTUNITIES THAT WE'VE HAD OUT THERE AND WE JUST REALLY HAVEN'T UTILIZED THEM.

I THINK IT'S VERY IMPORTANT TO REMEMBER WE PROVIDE GOVERNMENT SERVICES FOR THE UNINCORPORATED AREAS.

SO WHEN I HEAR PEOPLE SAYING, WE GOT TO SPEND A LOT OF MONEY IN CHINO OR PRESCOTT VALLEY OR COTTONWOOD OR CAMP VERDE, YOU KNOW, MY CONCERN IS THEY ALREADY HAVE THEIR GOVERNMENT.

THEY HAVE A MAYOR AND A COUNCIL, AND THEY ARE THEY HAVE THEIR OWN TAX BASE.

YOU KNOW, THEY'RE GOING TO PROVIDE THE MAJORITY OF SERVICES FOR 90% OF THE PEOPLE IN THAT COMMUNITY, BUT WE'RE LOOKING AT IS THE PEOPLE THAT ARE FAR FLUNG OUT THERE THAT DON'T HAVE ANY SUPPORT, AND SO I THINK IT'S VERY IMPORTANT, AS WE MOVE FORWARD, THAT WE THINK VERY SERIOUSLY ABOUT PROVIDING MORE OUT IN THE RURAL AREAS, BECAUSE THAT'S THE PEOPLE THAT REALLY ASK ME ALL THE TIME, AND I'M SURE THEY ASK ALL OF OUR SUPERVISORS HERE, YOU KNOW, WHAT ARE YOU DOING FOR ME? I'M PAYING ALL THIS TAX MONEY AND I'M NOT SEEING ANYTHING.

SO ANYWAY, I JUST WANT TO KIND OF LAY THAT OUT THERE AND MAKE SURE THAT PEOPLE DON'T THINK, YOU KNOW, WE'RE GOING TO BE PUTTING STAFFING SERVICES OUT IN PV OR

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CHINO OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

THERE THERE ARE SOME OPPORTUNITIES OUT THERE, OBVIOUSLY, BUT I'M NOT CERTAIN THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE PUTTING A LOT OF STAFF OR ANY KIND OF BUILDINGS OUT THERE.

AS FAR AS THE JUSTICE COMPLEX, YOU KNOW, WE BUILT A JAIL.

IT'S GOT ADDITIONAL COURTROOMS IN IT.

I GUESS MY QUESTION IS, YOU KNOW, I'M HERE NOW.

SOUNDS LIKE WE NEED MORE COURT SPACE.

NOW WE'VE GOT TWO, TWO BRAND NEW COURTS IN, YOU KNOW, IN THE NEW JUSTICE CENTER.

WE HAVE COURTS DOWN IN CAMP VERDE.

OBVIOUSLY, WE'RE LIMITED ON OUR SPACE IN WITH THE COURTHOUSE, THE OLD COURTHOUSE.

HOW MUCH MORE DO WE REALLY NEED IN OF COURTROOMS? AND THE SHERIFF JUST TOLD US THAT WE HAVE LESS PEOPLE IN JAIL.

SO WHAT'S WHERE DO WHERE DOES THIS NEED, QUOTE, RAISE ITS HEAD AND I'M WITH HARRY ON THIS.

YOU KNOW, EVERYBODY'S TELLING US HOW BUSY THEY ARE, BUT I DON'T IT DOESN'T APPEAR TO BE PREVALENT.

I WOULD GIVE YOU ONE EXAMPLE WITH THE NEED FOR A COURT NAVIGATOR, WHICH I'VE BEEN A STRONG ADVOCATE FOR, THAT COULD BE AN ITINERANT EVEN, AND CO-LOCATE AT SOME OF THESE PLACES TO HELP CLEAR UP THE BACKLOG, WHICH IS SIGNIFICANT.

SO IT'S WHAT PIECE OF THE JUDICIAL SYSTEM IS IT OR CIVIL THAT WE'RE LOOKING TO ENHANCE OR STREAMLINE, AND THAT'S A HUGE THING, AND THERE ARE THERE IS A GREAT NEED IN SOME OF OUR RURAL AREAS THAT MAYBE DON'T PROJECT HUGE GROWTH, BUT THE NEED IS ALREADY THERE, AND I WOULD PROPOSE TO YOU, FOR EXAMPLE, IN VOC, YOU KNOW, WE DON'T HAVE ANY HEALTH CARE THERE.

WE DON'T HAVE EVEN THE BASIC BLOOD DRAW OPPORTUNITY THERE, AS I'VE SAID BEFORE, AND WE HAVE 8 TO 10,000 PEOPLE THERE.

THAT'S SIGNIFICANT, AND YES, IT MAY BE BY PERCENTAGE THAT THE GROWTH IS GOING TO HAPPEN 10 OR 11% OR WHATEVER THE SMALLER PERCENTAGE IS, BUT IT'S RELEVANT AND IT'S IMPORTANT TO LOOK AT WHAT ARE THE SPACES THAT EXIST OUT THERE THAT ARE ALREADY THERE.

SO WE DON'T HAVE TO BUILD, BUT WE CAN ACQUIRE ONE WAY OR ANOTHER AND HAVE PUBLIC PRIVATE PARTNERSHIPS, EVEN SO, THAT WE DO HAVE A PRESENCE AND WE CAN PROVIDE SOME OF THESE SERVICES.

SO THERE'S JUST LOTS OF OPPORTUNITIES AS FAR AS I'M, I'M CONCERNED, IN THE COMMUNITIES THAT WE CLEARLY HAVE A NEED IN THAT MAYBE DON'T GET THE MESSAGING QUITE AS MUCH AS SOME OF THE OTHERS BECAUSE WE DON'T THINK ABOUT THEM.

I'M NOT SURE WHAT THE PLEASURE OF THE BOARD IS AT THIS POINT IN TIME, BUT WE CAN SIT HERE AND WE CAN TALK ABOUT THIS FACILITY AND STUDY SESSION UNTIL HELL FREEZES OVER AND I THINK IT WOULD BE MUCH MORE ADVISABLE THAT WE TAKE THIS INFORMATION BACK.

WE APPRECIATE EVERYTHING YOU HAVE PROVIDED TO US, OBVIOUSLY UNDER THE CONTRACTS GUIDELINES, AND I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S ANY FOLLOW UP THAT YOU GUYS ARE SUPPOSED TO DO OR NOT, BECAUSE I DON'T HAVE THE CONTRACT IN FRONT OF ME, BUT I JUST WANT TO THANK MR. NATZKE AND MISS DECKER FOR ALL YOUR EFFORTS, AND I WOULD LIKE PERSONALLY, IT WOULD BE MY DESIRE TO MOVE FORWARD WITH ANOTHER STUDY SESSION, INDEPENDENT OF A BOARD MEETING THAT IS SPECIFICALLY TO SIT DOWN, WRITE DOWN AND GET IT FACTUALLY WHAT OUR PRIORITIES ARE, WHERE WE WANT TO GO AS A BOARD, AND THAT WAY THEY'LL HAVE SOMETHING FOR THE NEW BOARD COMING ON TO WORK FROM.

SO THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN. WELL SAID.

THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT STAFF WAS HOPING TO COME FROM THIS AND AGREE.

I THINK WE NEED TO DEVOTE SOME SIGNIFICANT TIME TO THAT CONVERSATION.

SO I LIKE YOUR SUGGESTION OF ABSENT OF A BOARD MEETING, A SPECIAL TIME TO SIT DOWN AND PULL UP OUR SLEEVES AND WORK ON THIS.

WELL, I'D LIKE TO SEE IF YOU CAN GET ALL THE BOARD MEMBERS TO GET US TOGETHER SOMETIME IN THE MONTH OF SEPTEMBER BEFORE WE GO TO CSA IN OCTOBER, TO AT LEAST WRITE UP WHAT WE FEEL ARE THE PRIORITIES.

DOES THAT WORK FOR YOU, MR. OBERG? MISS MICHAELS? MR. GREGORY.

IS THAT ALL RIGHT WITH YOU, MARY? YES, SIR. THAT'S FINE.

OKAY, BUT WE NEED TO REALLY PRIORITIZE, AND THAT'S THE THING I THINK WE HAVE NOT DONE WELL WITH.

SO, AND I, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE I REALLY, TRULY BELIEVE THAT THE RURAL AREAS OF THIS COUNTY ARE THE ONES THAT ARE BEING NEGLECTED, NOT THE ONES THAT ARE CLOSE TO OUR URBAN CENTERS, EVEN THOUGH THEY MAY HAVE THE LARGE NUMBERS TO SAY THAT THEY HAVE USE OF, BUT IT'S THE RURAL ONES THAT ARE FALLING APART OR DON'T EVEN EXIST.

SO ANYWAY, I'VE BEAT THAT DOG.

IF IT PLEASES THE BOARD, I WOULD ACTUALLY LOVE TO EXTEND THE INVITE TO DEPARTMENT HEADS SO THEY COULD SEND A REPRESENTATIVE TO BE THERE AND PARTICIPATE IN THE CONVERSATION.

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THAT WAY, IF YOU GUYS HAD CONVERSATIONS ABOUT WHY, OKAY, AS CHAIR, I'M GOING TO SAY NO, OKAY.

SINCE I'M THE ONE THAT HAS TO PUT THE AGENDA TO.

I'VE HEARD EVERYTHING AND ALL THE WHINING AND EVERYTHING I WANT TO HEAR.

OUT OF ALL THE DIVISION AND OFFICE HEADS, YOU KNOW, WE'VE HEARD THE SAME STORY.

I NEED MORE, I NEED MORE, I NEED MORE, AND IT REALLY, REALLY UPSET ME WHEN I HEARD THE REGISTRAR SAY WHAT SHE SAID THIS MORNING, BECAUSE THAT MEANS WE JUST THREW AWAY A QUARTER MILLION DOLLARS.

UNDERSTOOD. WELL, I WILL CARRY ON.

I'D LOVE TO ADDRESS ONE LAST QUESTION THAT SUPERVISOR MALLORY HAD ON THE REPORT, AND THEN I'D LIKE TO MOVE INTO THE LAST SLIDE.

MISS MALLORY, YOU HAD ASKED ABOUT THE CONTRACT FOR THE PRESCOTT VALLEY HEALTH.

THAT WAS A 40 YEAR CONTRACT, AND I BELIEVE WE'VE ENTERED YEAR 21 OF THAT CONTRACT, AND I BELIEVE WE HAVE 19 YEARS LEFT.

THERE WAS A PRORATED PAYBACK THAT CAME BACK TO THE COUNTY STARTING AT YEAR ZERO, UP TO YEAR 2019-20.

THAT WE WOULD RECEIVE A REDUCED AMOUNT EVERY YEAR THAT WENT BY, AND IN YEAR 20 IT IS ZERO.

SO WE WILL RECEIVE NOTHING BACK IF WE VACATE THAT SPACE, BUT WE ARE NOW IN A PERIOD OF TIME WHERE WE'RE NOT PAYING RENT.

I THINK IT'S LIKE A DOLLAR A YEAR OR SOMETHING.

IT'S TRIVIAL, WHATEVER IT IS.

SO ABOUT 19 YEARS LEFT OF THAT RENT, IT'S JUST UNFORTUNATE THAT THEY HAVE OUTGROWN THAT SPACE, AND SO THAT'S WHAT THEY'VE EXPRESSED THERE, AND I APPRECIATE THAT, BRANDON, I REALIZE NOW THAT WE ARE IN THAT PART WHERE IT'S NOT COSTING US ANY MONEY.

SO PLEASE UNDERSTAND, I'M NOT SITTING HERE ADVOCATING FOR US TO PACK UP OUR BAGS AND MOVE ON TO GO SPEND MONEY.

WHEN RIGHT NOW WE'RE ACTUALLY HAVING A BENEFIT THAT I SEE.

I DON'T KNOW, CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG.

WE HAVE A PLACE FOR PEOPLE TO GO.

WE AREN'T HAVING TO PAY THE RENT.

YOU'VE ALREADY PAID ALL OF THAT PRIOR TO ME EVER BEING ON THE BOARD OR MANY OF US HERE.

SO I JUST WANTED TO GET THAT CLARIFIED.

I UNDERSTAND THEY'RE RUNNING OUT OF SPACE BUT AS THE CHAIRMAN SAID YOU KNOW, WE REALLY DO NEED TO UNDERSTAND WHAT DOES THAT SPACE LOOK LIKE? AND HOW ARE WE GOING TO BRING THINGS MORE TOGETHER, AND THE UNINCORPORATED AREAS ACTUALLY DO HAVE VERY INADEQUATE FACILITIES FOR EVERYTHING.

SO I SUPPORT ALL THAT'S BEEN SAID HERE TODAY, AND I APPRECIATE AND PLEASE DON'T THINK I DON'T APPRECIATE THE HARD WORK.

I JUST I'M TRYING TO UNDERSTAND BACK BEFORE MAURY HAD COME HERE AND, YOU KNOW, AND ALL THESE CHANGES.

MOREY, WE TALKED ABOUT THE MONEY FOR REMODELING.

GURLEY I AM PRETTY SURE THAT CONVERSATION HAD BEEN HAD AND WE HAD THE MONEY.

I KNOW THINGS HAVE CHANGED.

I KNOW THAT WE HAVE A EXPENDITURE LIMITATION, AND I REALIZE RIGHT NOW TODAY THAT IS RIGHT IN FRONT OF OUR FACE.

SO ANYWAY, I APPRECIATE THE CONVERSATION AND WE'LL MOVE FORWARD.

I THINK THE CHAIRMAN HAD A GREAT IDEA THAT WE DO NEED TO HAVE A MEETING SEPARATE FROM A BOARD MEETING, AND WE NEED TO MAKE JUST SOME DECISIONS FOR THE SUPERVISORS THAT WE ARE. WE'VE GOT TO FIND THAT FINE BALANCE THAT MAURY WAS REFERENCING.

WELL, WE'RE GOING TO LOCK THE DOORS BEHIND US.

IS THAT LOCKING ME IN OR IN? ALL RIGHT. SO ANYTHING FROM ANYBODY ELSE ON THE BOARD? HARRY. JIM.

I HAVE ONE MORE THING I'D LIKE TO COVER.

THIS IS RELATIVE TO GURLEY STREET.

JUST A LITTLE BIT OF DETAIL.

THE PAUSE THAT CAME UP WAS ACTUALLY TIMELY BECAUSE DURING THE PAUSE, I ACTUALLY HAD SOME CONCERNS EXPRESSED TO ME FROM THE SHERIFF ABOUT THE FEASIBILITY OF REMODELING THAT 22,000FT², AND SO TO ADDRESS HIS CONCERNS AND TO KIND OF TAKE A GUT CHECK OURSELVES AND MAKE SURE WE WERE GOING DOWN THE RIGHT PATH.

I ENGAGED TAYLOR ARCHITECTURE, WHO WAS DOING THE PLANS, AND THEY ENGAGED HALEY CONSTRUCTION TO ACTUALLY PREPARE GENUINE COST ESTIMATES BASED UPON TODAY'S COST, TO HELP US ANALYZE THE SUGGESTION THAT WAS BEING MADE.

THE SHERIFF HAD HAD ASKED IF IT WOULD BE MORE FEASIBLE TO TURN THAT INTO JUST STORAGE SPACE RATHER THAN REMODELING IT TO OFFICE SPACE.

SO WE HAD HALEY AND TAYLOR ARCHITECTURE.

LOOK AT THAT SPACE. THEY DID A COST ANALYSIS BASED UPON THE CURRENT LAYOUT THAT WAS PROVIDED.

SO JUST WHAT HAD BEEN ALREADY DESIGNED, AND HALEY DID A COST ESTIMATE TO THAT, AND THEY CAME UP WITH A TOTAL COST OF ABOUT $6.1 MILLION FOR THAT.

PRETTY SIGNIFICANT, AND IT SHOWS US, LIKE YOU'RE SAYING, THE COST IS GOING UP OF CONSTRUCTION AND EVERYTHING.

CONVERSELY, WE HAD THEM LOOK AT A SECOND OPTION, AND THAT WAS TO REALLY USE THAT SPACE AS STORAGE, BUT THEN DUPLICATE THAT SPACE SOMEPLACE ELSE FOR THAT 22,000FT² OF WHOEVER WOULD

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BE IN THAT SPACE.

THE OPTION TWO THAT'S SHOWN UP IN HERE IS ABOUT $1 MILLION TO DO WHAT THEY WOULD CALL SAFE OFF.

WE'D HAVE TO REMOVE SOME OF THE JAIL CELLS, NOT NECESSARILY TAKE IT ALL OUT, BUT SOME OF THE DOORS SO NOBODY WOULD GET LOCKED IN.

WE'D HAVE TO UPDATE SPRINKLER SYSTEMS. WE GOT TO CAP OFF ELECTRICAL.

THERE'S A BUNCH OF LITTLE STUFF WE WOULD HAVE TO DO IN THAT SPACE TO MAKE SURE THAT IT'S SAFE FOR EVERYBODY TO JUST STORE BOXES OR WHATEVER WE'D BE STORING IN THERE.

UNFORTUNATELY, THERE'S ABOUT $1 MILLION THAT GO INTO THAT JUST TO MAKE THAT SAFE FOR EVERYBODY, AND THEN THE COST, THEY DUPLICATED THE SQUARE FOOTAGE IN A NEW LOCATION, AND THAT COST IS ABOUT 9.4, ALMOST $9.4 MILLION.

WE WOULD NEED ABOUT ANOTHER 1.3 TO BUY LAND.

SO OUR TOTAL INVESTMENT ON THAT OPTION WOULD BE ALMOST $11.7 MILLION, BUT THEN WE COULD USE THAT SPACE AS STORAGE AND WE WOULD HAVE A DIFFERENT LOCATION, WHETHER THAT'S A NEW BUILD OR WE RENOVATE A LOCATION OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

IS THERE ANYTHING PRECLUDING THIS ON GURLEY FROM MOVING FORWARD WITH THE RENOVATION OF THE OUTSIDE? THE ENTRY STEPS TO THAT BUILDING ARE HORRIBLE AND THEY'RE FALLING APART.

LITERALLY. YES.

SO THAT'S ALL JUST PART OF THE RENOVATION PROJECT AS A WHOLE.

WE COULD CERTAINLY LOOK AT A PROJECT STANDALONE IF THIS ONE IS GOING TO END UP SITTING STAGNANT, BUT I HAVE TO BELIEVE THAT IT'S GOING TO GO HERE PRETTY SOON, AND THAT WAS ALWAYS INTENDED TO INCLUDE THAT ENTRYWAY AS A PART OF THAT.

I WILL SAY THAT I BELIEVE THE UNDERLYING CONCERN FOR THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE IS THE IMPACT IT'S GOING TO MAKE ON THEM.

I UNDERSTAND THAT LIVING IN A REMODEL JUST SUCKS, AND SO I HAVE A GREAT APPRECIATION FOR REALLY SOME OF THE UNDERLYING CONCERNS THAT ARE THERE.

WE HAD COME UP WITH A COUPLE OF IDEAS THAT I THINK ARE SOLID TO HELP MITIGATE THAT FOR THEM.

ONE WOULD BE RELOCATING 9-1-1.

WE HAD COME UP WITH ANOTHER SPACE ACROSS THE HALLWAY THAT MIGHT WORK.

WE HAD ALSO COME UP WITH THE IDEA OF MAYBE RENTING SOME MODULARS THAT ARE SPECIFICALLY DESIGNED FOR IT, AND THEN WE COULD PUT A SECURITY FENCE AROUND IT TO CREATE A DOUBLE LAYER OF SECURITY FOR 9-1-1.

BOTH INVOLVE A LITTLE BIT OF MONEY, BUT WE COULD GET 9-1-1 OUT OF THAT SPACE.

SO THEY'RE NOT IMPACTED BY THE CONSTRUCTION BECAUSE AGAIN, IT'S GOING TO BE NOISY, IT'S GOING TO BE INTRUSIVE, AND I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT EVERYBODY HAS GOOD SPACE TO WORK IN.

THE OTHER CONCERN I'VE GOT IS THE REST OF THE EMPLOYEES WHO WORK IN THAT BUILDING, FROM THEIR CRIMINAL INVESTIGATION TO THE PATROL TO THE ADMINISTRATION.

WE'VE GOT SO MUCH WORK THAT WE'VE GOT TO DO ABOVE, AND WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO ACCESS THE CEILING SPACE BELOW TO BE ABLE TO CAP OFF SOME OF THE OLD SEWER, AND SO IT'S GOING TO BE VERY INTRUSIVE TO THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE, AND THE OTHER THING I'D LIKE TO PROPOSE IS THAT WE FIND A LOCATION THAT WE CAN RENT FOR ABOUT A YEAR WHILE WE'RE DOING THE HEAVY DEMO, AND WE WOULD RENT, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT SPACE IS, MAYBE 6000FT² AS A PART OF THIS PROJECT TO GIVE THEM A LOCATION THAT THEY COULD WORK.

THAT WAS QUIET AND IT WAS PEACEFUL AND IT WAS SECURE, AND THEY WEREN'T HAVING TO DEAL WITH MY CONTRACTORS ALL THE TIME.

SO I BELIEVE THAT'S AN UNDERLYING CONCERN.

IT WASN'T DIRECTLY EXPRESSED TO ME IN THAT MANNER, BUT I WANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE THAT I BELIEVE IT'S A CONCERN, AND I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE TAKE SOME SERIOUS STEPS TO MITIGATE ANY CONCERNS THAT THEY'VE GOT IN THAT REGARD.

SO IF ULTIMATELY THE BOARD DECIDES THEY WANT TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS PROJECT, I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE KNOW THAT WE'RE GOING TO DO SOME STUFF TO MITIGATE ANY INTERFERENCE WITH THEIR OPERATION.

THERE'S GOING TO ACTUALLY BE SOME POSSIBLE CHANGES.

SO WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO TALK ABOUT THOSE AT THE SAME TIME.

NOW, IF THE SHERIFF DOESN'T NEED THAT 2,100 OR 21,000FT² OF SPACE, MAYBE THAT'S WHERE THE COMMUNICATION CENTER THE NEW ONE SHOULD BE LOCATED. JUST AN OPTION.

JUST JUST AN OPTION.

ALL OPTIONS ON THE TABLE.

YEAH. ALL RIGHT.

ANYTHING ELSE? ANY QUESTIONS FOR US? NO. THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR EVERYTHING YOU DID FOR US.

WE DO APPRECIATE IT.

YOU'RE VERY WELCOME.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR THE PRESENTATION.

SORRY WE GOT OFF ON A LITTLE TANGENTS.

THAT'S MY FAULT, BUT, BUT, YOU KNOW, WE'RE A LITTLE FRUSTRATED UP HERE.

YOU KNOW WHAT'S OCCURRED OVER IN THE FUNDING ASPECT IS JUST ANOTHER HURDLE, SO IF WE DON'T JUMP OVER THAT HURDLE.

ALL THIS TALK IS FOR NOT.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

I GREATLY APPRECIATE THE BOARD'S TIME.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH. ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

OKAY. WITH THAT.

LET'S TAKE TEN MINUTES BEFORE I CALL TO THE PUBLIC.

OKAY. ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU.

BACK, EVERYONE, IT'S 11:10.

WE'RE GOING TO MOVE FORWARD WITH CALL TO THE PUBLIC.

CALL THE PUBLIC. INDIVIDUALS MAY ADDRESS THE BOARD FOR UP TO THREE MINUTES ON ANY RELEVANT ISSUE WITHIN THE BOARD'S JURISDICTION.

PURSUANT TO ARS 38-431.01H.

BOARD MEMBERS SHALL NOT DISCUSS OR TAKE ACTION ON MATTERS RAISED DURING THE CALL OF THE PUBLIC.

THE BOARD MAY DIRECT STAFF TO STUDY THE MATTER OR DIRECT THAT MATTER TO BE RESCHEDULED FOR CONSIDERATION AT A LATER DATE.

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DO WE HAVE ANYBODY OVER THERE IN PRESCOTT? IT APPEARS NOT.

MADAM CLERK, DO YOU HAVE ANY GREEN SHEETS? AND I SEE ANYBODY IN THE ROOM THAT WANTS TO TALK TO US.

GOOD. ALL RIGHT.

THEN WE'LL MOVE ON TO EXECUTIVE SESSION.

[ EXECUTIVE SESSION]

I MAKE A MOTION TO MOVE INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION.

SECONDED. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. WE'RE IN EXECUTIVE SESSION.

[ EXECUTIVE SESSION FOLLOW-UP ACTION]

LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, THIS IS THE CHAIRMAN OF THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS.

WE'RE BACK IN SESSION, AND AT THIS POINT, WE HAVE GIVEN DIRECTION TO OUR ATTORNEY, AND WE'LL BE MOVING FORWARD.

WITH THAT, WE ARE ADJOURNED.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.