[ CALL TO ORDER]
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>> MORNING, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN. IT'S NINE O'CLOCK.
TODAY IS JUNE 5TH, 2024 AND IT'S A WEDNESDAY AT 9:00 AM.
THIS IS OUR REGULAR MEETING OF THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS.
ALL ITEMS ARE POTENTIAL ACTION ITEMS, UNLESS OTHERWISE NOTED.
THE ORDER OF ITEMS MAY BE MODIFIED AT THE MEETING.
NOTE ONE OR MORE BOARD MEMBERS MAY ATTEND TELEPHONICALLY OR VIRTUALLY.
BOARD MEMBERS ATTENDING TELEPHONICALLY OR VIRTUALLY WILL BE ANNOUNCED AT THE MEETING.
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CITIZENS ARE ENCOURAGED TO WATCH THE MEETING VIRTUALLY AT WWW.YAVAPAIAZ.GOV./MEETINGS.
THE PUBLIC WILL HAVE PHYSICAL ACCESS TO THE LOCATION 15 MINUTES PRIOR TO THE MEETING.
WRITTEN COMMENTS OR CURRENT AGENDA ITEMS WILL BE RECEIVED BY THE CLERK OF THE BOARD'S OFFICE AT CLERK OF THE BOARD WEB AT YAVAPAIZ.GOV 24 HOURS PRIOR TO THE BOARD MEETING.
WITH THAT, I'LL CALL IT TO ORDER AND WE HAVE THE INVOCATION BY MS. MICHAEL'S.
>> FLAG SALUTE WILL BE BY MR. GREGORY.
>> MY FATHER, THANK YOU FOR THIS OPPORTUNITY TO GATHER AND DO YOUR WORK, THE WORK OF MAKING SURE THAT WE'RE AN ENGAGED COMMUNITY, HELPING ONE ANOTHER, IRRESPECTIVE OF OUR PERSONAL VIEWPOINTS THAT WE COME TOGETHER AS A COMMUNITY, KNOWING THAT THE GOAL IS TO MAKE US WHOLE HEALTHIER AND MORE VITAL IN THIS STATE, YAVAPAI COUNTY AS A TREASURE.
PLEASE HELP US KEEP IT AS SUCH.
HEAVENLY FATHER, PLEASE HELP ME GET A GOOD DOCTRINE IN YOUR NAME. THANK YOU.
>> PLEASE FOLLOW ME IN I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE.
>> I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR ITS STAND, ONE NATION UNDER GOD, AND THE [INAUDIBLE] WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.
>> MAY WE HAVE ROLL CALL FROM THE CLERK, PLEASE.
>> THANK YOU. WORDS AND PROCLAMATIONS.
[ AWARDS AND PROCLAMATIONS ]
NUMBER 1, APPROVED PROCLAMATION DECLARING JUNE AS POST-TRAUMATIC STRESS DISORDER AWARENESS MONTH AND YAVAPAI COUNTY.IS DR. SIEGLER HERE? THERE YOU ARE, OKAY.
AS SOON AS I GET DONE READING THIS AND WE HAVE A MOTION, THEN WE'LL ASK YOU TO STEP UP.
POST-TRAUMATIC STRESS DISORDER AWARENESS MONTH, WHEREAS POST-TRAUMATIC STRESS DISORDER, KNOWN AS PTSD, CAN OCCUR AFTER A PERSON EXPERIENCES TRAUMA, INCLUDING, BUT NOT LIMITED TO THE STRESS OF COMBAT BOMBINGS, ACCIDENTS, NATURAL DISASTERS, AND ABUSE WHICH AFFECTS APPROXIMATELY 13 MILLION ADULTS IN THE UNITED STATES ANNUALLY.
WHEREAS PTSD IS ASSOCIATED WITH CHEMICAL CHANGES IN THE BODIES OF NORMAL HORMONAL SYSTEM AND A AUTONOMIC NERVOUS SYSTEM, IT IS CHARACTERIZED BY SYMPTOMS INCLUDING FLASHBACKS, NIGHTMARES, INSOMNIA, AVOIDANCE, HYPER VIGILANCE, ANXIETY, AND DEPRESSION.
WHEREAS THE BRAVE MEN AND WOMEN OF THE UNITED STATES ARMED FORCES WHO PROUDLY SERVE THE NATION AND RISK THEIR LIVES TO PROTECT OUR FREEDOM, DESERVE THE INVESTMENT OF EVERY POSSIBLE RESOURCE TO ENSURE THEIR LASTING PHYSICAL, MENTAL, AND EMOTIONAL WELL-BEING.
WHEREAS, DESPITE ITS TREATABILITY, MANY CASES OF PTSD REMAIN UNDIAGNOSED AND UNTREATED DUE TO A LACK OF AWARENESS OF THIS CONDITION AND THE PERSISTENT STIGMA ASSOCIATED WITH MENTAL HEALTH CONDITIONS.
WHEREAS ALL CITIZENS SUFFERING FROM PTSD DESERVE OUR CONSIDERATION AND THOSE WHO ARE AFFECTED BY PTSD FROM WOUNDS RECEIVED WHILE PROTECTING OUR FREEDOM, DESERVE OUR RESPECT AND SPECIAL HONOR.
NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED THAT THE YAVAPAI COUNTY BOARD OF SUPERVISORS DO HEREBY PROCLAIM THE MONTH OF JUNE, 2024 AS POST-TRAUMATIC STRESS DISORDER AWARENESS MONTH
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TO BRING THE AWARENESS TO THOSE WITH PTSD AND TO ENCOURAGE PEOPLE TO REACH OUT TO THEIR FELLOW CITIZENS TO PROVIDE SUPPORT AND REMOVE THE STIGMA ASSOCIATED WITH THIS DISORDER.IN WITNESS THEREOF, CHAIRMAN OF THE BOARD, ON BEHALF OF THE YAVAPAI COUNTY BOARD OF SUPERVISORS, WILL SET HIS HAND, CAUSE A SEAL YAVAPAI COUNTY, ARIZONA TO BE A FIXED ON THIS 5TH DAY OF JUNE.
I MAKE A MOTION TO ACCEPT THE PROCLAMATION.
LET'S GO AHEAD AND HAVE A HAND COUNT.
>> I'M ALSO, THANK YOU, THE PROGRAM MANAGER FOR OUR PTSD CLINICAL TEAM AT THE PRESCOTT VA.
I JUST WANTED TO SAY A FEW THINGS. FIRST OF ALL, THANK YOU ALL.
OUR PTSD CLINICAL TEAM IS MADE UP OF PSYCHOLOGISTS, SOCIAL WORKERS, NURSE PRACTITIONERS, AND PEER SUPPORTS OF PEOPLE THAT ARE EXPERTS AT TREATING POST-TRAUMATIC STRESS AND ARE VETERANS WHO HAVE EXPERIENCED MILITARY-RELATED TRAUMA.
I ALWAYS JUST WANT TO SPREAD THE AWARENESS THAT THERE IS REALLY EFFECTIVE HELP AVAILABLE, AND THAT'S EASILY ACCESSIBLE HERE IN YAVAPAI COUNTY AND IN THE SURROUNDING COUNTIES AS WELL.
AS YOU GUYS MENTIONED, JUNE IS PTSD AWARENESS MONTH.
EACH JUNE, OUR TEAM HAS SEVERAL GOALS THAT WE TRY TO ACCOMPLISH.
THE FIRST ONE IS TO TRY TO BUILD A COMMUNITY OF UNDERSTANDING AND SUPPORT AROUND ALL OF OUR VETERANS.
THE SECOND IS TO REDUCE THE STIGMA SURROUNDING POST-TRAUMATIC STRESS SO THAT WE COULD REDUCE BARRIERS TO VETERANS GETTING THE CARE THAT THEY NEED.
FINALLY, WE ALSO WANT TO TELL OUR VETERANS THAT SYMPTOMS ASSOCIATED WITH POST-TRAUMATIC STRESS ARE TYPICALLY JUST NATURAL RESPONSES TO A REALLY TRAUMATIC EVENT.
ALTHOUGH THEY CAN BE CHALLENGING, THEY ALSO CAN BE MANAGED AND EVEN OVERCOME WITH THE RIGHT SUPPORT AND THE RIGHT RESOURCES.
WE WANT TO LET OUR VETERANS KNOW THAT THEY ARE NOT ALONE AND YOU GUYS ALL HELPED US DO THAT TODAY, SO THANK YOU SO MUCH.
WE DID HAVE A VERY SUCCESSFUL EVENT, OUR 3D ANNUAL 5K AND BARBECUE THIS PAST WEEKEND.
WE DO HAVE ONE EVENT LEFT THIS MONTH FOR OUR VETERANS, AND IT'S GOING TO BE HELD ON JUNE 13TH AT THE VA AT THE RAMADA, WHICH IS ACROSS FROM OUR FLAGPOLE, WE'LL HAVE SIGNS, FROM 11:00-13:00.
THIS IS OUR EQUINE THERAPY DEMONSTRATION AND BARBECUE IN PARTNERSHIP WITH BETHANY'S GAIT.
THEY'LL ACTUALLY BE BRINGING THE HORSES TO OUR VA AND DOING A DEMONSTRATION SO ANY VETERANS INTERESTED COULD SEE WHAT IT MIGHT BE LIKE IF THEY DID ENGAGE IN EQUINE THERAPY IN OUR COMMUNITY.
THEN WE HAVE A LOT OF FREEBIE SWAG RESOURCES AND A FREE BARBECUE FOR ANY VETERANS ATTENDING.
ANYBODY OUT THERE THAT WANTS TO LEARN ABOUT OUR PROGRAM AND COME OUT, WE'D BE HAPPY TO HAVE YOU AND I HAVE A BUNCH OF FLIERS FOR EVERYBODY AS WELL. THANK YOU.
>> AGAIN, THAT'S GOING TO BE WHEN ON 13TH OF JUNE?
>> YES, SIR. ON THE 13TH FROM 11:00-13:00.
>> THE 1,300? IS THAT ONE O'CLOCK.
>> ONE O'CLOCK. SORRY, VA TALK. YES, 11:00-1:00.
>> HAVING FOUNDED A VETERAN IN THERAPY ALLIANCE PROGRAM ON THAT SIDE, I WOULD LOVE TO SEE YOUR PROGRAM QUIT THERAPY COME TO [INAUDIBLE] BECAUSE IT'S SO.
DOES IT WORK OUT? OH, WONDERFUL.
WE'RE GOING TO HAVE THE SECOND ANNUAL VICE ADMIRAL JOHN MADISON VETERANS SERVICES FAIR IN OCTOBER.
MAYBE WE CAN COORDINATE SOMETHING, BUT IT'S JUST AMAZING WHAT THIS WORK DOES IN BRINGING PEOPLE INTO COMMUNITY AND MAKING THEM HOLD AGAIN.
DO YOU HAVE ANY OPINION, DOCTOR ON WHAT WAS ANNOUNCED ON THE NEWS LAST NIGHT AS IT RELATES TO PTSD-8 IN TERMS OF TREATMENT FOR POST-TRAUMATIC STRESS.
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I'VE HEARD SUCH GOOD THINGS.I WAS SURPRISED AT THE REPORT.
>> YEAH, I WAS SURPRISED, TOO.
I HAD A CONFERENCE IN DALLAS WITH THE NATIONAL CENTER FOR PTSD IN MAY, AND THEY HAD THOUGHT THAT IT WOULD PERHAPS PASS, BECAUSE THERE IS SOME REALLY PROMISING RESEARCH.
I'VE HEARD VERY POSITIVE THINGS FROM VETERANS WHO HAVE EXPERIENCED THAT, AND IT HAS BEEN HELPFUL.
HOWEVER, IT SEEMS THAT IT JUST NEEDS MORE RESEARCH AND MORE OF THAT, BEST PRACTICE, RANDOMIZED CONTROL TRIAL TYPE RESEARCH, WHICH I THINK THAT THEY WILL CONTINUE TO DO AND I KNOW A LOT SOME VAS IN THE COUNTRY ARE STARTING TO DO [NOISE] THAT, INCLUDING AT THE PHOENIX VA.
I'M HOPEFUL THAT ANYTHING THAT WILL HELP OUR VETERANS WILL PASS WITH ENOUGH RESEARCH AS IT CONTINUES FORWARD.
>> WOULD YOU BE INTERESTED IN BEING PART OF THAT RESEARCH?
>> I WOULD. ANYTHING THAT MIGHT HELP AND WHEN I WAS IN SCHOOL, ONE OF MY SUPERVISOR SAID, IF WE'RE STILL DOING THE SAME TREATMENT FOR POST-TRAUMATIC STRESS IN TEN YEARS, WE'RE DOING SOMETHING WRONG.
[LAUGHTER] SO WE HAVE TO CONTINUE TO ADVANCE AND FIND THE LATEST THINGS THAT ARE GOING TO BE HELPFUL.
>> [OVERLAPPING] THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR WORK.
>> IS THERE ANY MORE QUESTIONS FOR THE DOCTOR? NO.
>> ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU SO MUCH, AND I COULD PUT THESE FLIERS BACK THERE FOR YOU.
>> WE'RE GOING TO COME IN DOWN AND GET A PICTURE WITH THE PROCLAMATION, AND EPHRON, DID YOU HAVE ANYTHING YOU WANTED TO SAY?
>> SO THAT EVENT AT THE VA IS GOING TO BE ON 13TH JUNE, WHICH IS A SATURDAY, I BELIEVE, AND THAT'LL BE 11-1.
>> THANK YOU. ALSO, WE ARE GOING TO MOVE ON WITH A PROCLAMATION FOR NATIONAL FLAG DAY, NATIONAL FLAG WEEK.
FLAG DAY, IS SPECIAL IN MY FAMILY, BECAUSE MY MOTHER AND MY FATHER WERE BOTH BORN ON FLAG DAY FOUR YEARS APART.
INTERESTING. ANYWAY, NATIONAL FLAG DAY AND NATIONAL FLAG WEEK.
WHEREAS, EACH YEAR FOR A SPECIAL DAY AND A SPECIAL WEEK DURING JUNE, WE TAKE TIME TO REFLECT ON OUR FLAG, BECAUSE OF OLD GLORY WAS BORN IN JUNE.
THE FIRST DISTINCTIVE AMERICAN FLAG.
WHEREAS DURING FLAG DAY NATIONAL FLAG WEEK, LET US REMEMBER WITH DEVOTION, THAT THE FLAG WE LOVE AND HONOR IS THE FLAG OF FREEDOM THAT FLEW IN VICTORY AT YORKTOWN, THE FLAG THE UNITED STATES MARINES RAISED AT MOUNT SURIBACHI, AND WHEREAS THE AMERICAN FLAG SYMBOLIZES THE STRENGTH, HONOR, IDEALS, AND NATIONAL PURPOSES OF OUR NATION AND HELPS US TO NEVER FORGET THE VALUES OF OUR REPUBLIC AND THE VALOR OF THE MEN AND WOMEN IN UNIFORM WHO HAVE DEFENDED OUR HERITAGE, AND ADVANCED THE CAUSE OF WORLD FREEDOM.
WHEREAS AS WE RAISE OUR FLAG, AS WE STAND AND SALUTE OR PLACE OUR HANDS OVER OUR HEARTS.
LET'S RENEW OUR SACRED PLEDGE THAT WE WILL FOREVER REMAIN WHEN NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.
WHEREAS, THE CONGRESS BY A JOINT RESOLUTION APPROVED AUGUST 3RD 1949, DESIGNATED JUNE 14TH OF EACH YEAR AS FLAG DAY.
THE WEEK STARTING JUNE 9TH, IS NATIONAL FLAG WEEK IN COMMEMORATION OF THE ADOPTION OF THE STARS OF STRIPES AS THE OFFICIAL FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES BY THE CONTINENTAL CONGRESS ON JUNE 14TH, 1777.
THEREFORE, THE API COUNTY BOARD OF SUPERVISORS HEREBY DIRECT THAT THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES BE DISPLAYED ON ALL COUNTY BUILDINGS DURING THIS WEEK, AND URGE ALL AMERICANS TO OBSERVE FLAG DAY AND NATIONAL FLAG WEEK BY DISPLAYING THE FLAG.
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WITNESS THEREOF, CHAIRMAN OF THE BOARD ON BEHALF OF THE API COUNTY BOARD OF SUPERVISORS SET MY HAND AND CAUSE A SEAL THE COUNTY OF ARIZONA TO BE A FIXED ON THIS 5TH DAY OF JUNE 2024.I MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE.
>> SECONDED BY SUPERVISOR MICHAELS. ALL IN FAVOR?
DAUGHTERS OF THE AMERICAN REVOLUTION ARE HERE TO ACCEPT THIS, I UNDERSTAND.
HERE THEY COME, AND THEY'RE IN RED WHITE AND BLUE, I THINK. HOW APPROPRIATE?
>> EVERYONE THANK YOU. [INAUDIBLE] OUR LOCAL DAUGHTERS OF THE AMERICAN REVOLUTION AND LOCAL MARINE VET.
THE FLAG IS IMPORTANT TO US EVERY SINGLE DAY, SO WE THANK YOU FOR THIS VERY MUCH.
>> LADIES, WHO WANT, ANYTHING YOU WANT TO SAY?
>> I'M AN ARMY, BRAT, SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH [LAUGHTER].
>> NOPE, YOU'RE STAYING AWAY FROM THE MICROPHONE.
WE'LL BE COMING DOWN TO GET A PICTURE THEN.
>> PRESENTATIONS. WE'RE SUPPOSED TO HAVE A PRESENTATION FROM BOM.
[ PRESENTATIONS]
OH, WE HAVE SOMEBODY HERE REPRESENTING LEON, I ASSUME.>> THERE YOU GO. PLEASE LET US KNOW WHO YOU ARE.
>> GREEN LIGHTS ON. MORNING, EVERYONE.
I'M THE ACTING FIELD MANAGER FOR THE ACAMPA FIELD OFFICE.
IN MY NORMAL LIFE, I AM THE AGUA FRIA NATIONAL MONUMENT MANAGER AND THE ASSISTANT FIELD MANAGER FOR RECREATION WILDLIFE, AND RANGE LAND FOR ACAMPA.
LEON APOLOGIZES, HE COULDN'T BE HERE THIS MORNING HE HAD A BIT OF A CONFLICT WITH HIS SCHEDULE.
WHAT I'M HERE TO TALK ABOUT THIS MORNING IS THE BUSINESS PLAN.
I DO APOLOGIZE FOR NOT HAVING THE PRESENTATION UP.
WE HAD A BIT OF AN ISSUE WITH THAT BUT WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IS THE BUSINESS PLANNING WE'RE DOING RIGHT NOW FOR THE SHOOTING SPORT SITES THAT WE'VE BRIEFED YOU ALL ON AT LEAST TWICE.
THE SITES ARE RUNNING PRETTY WELL RIGHT NOW.
WE'LL BE GOING INTO FIRE RESTRICTIONS HERE TOMORROW, SO THEY'LL BE SHUT DOWN FOR THE SUMMER.
BUT OPERATIONS ON OUR SHOOTING SPORT SITES ARE GOING QUITE WELL RIGHT NOW SO THE NEXT STEP IS TO DEVELOP OUR BUSINESS PLANS.
WHAT THAT IS, IS EFFECTIVELY A FEE STRUCTURE.
IT IS THE FEES WE'LL BE CHARGING FOR THE SHOOTING SPORT SITES, FOR OPERATIONS AND MAINTENANCE OF THOSE SITES.
THE SITES ARE FAIRLY EXPENSIVE TO OPERATE, AND THE BIGGEST COST THAT WE'RE ANTICIPATING IS THE LETTER REMEDIATION WHEN WE HAVE TO CLEAN THEM UP EVERY FOUR YEARS OR SO IS WHAT WE'RE ANTICIPATING.
CURRENTLY IN FISCAL YEAR 2023, SO OCTOBER OF 2022 TO OCTOBER OF 2023.
VISITATION AT THE CHURCH CAMP ROAD SITE, WHICH IS THE LARGEST ONE IN THE JASAPA FIELD OFFICE.
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WE HAD 47,811 VISITORS.CHURCH CAMP BEING OUR BIGGEST SITE WITH THE NUMBERS WE'RE GETTING, WE'RE SEEING APPROXIMATELY JUST OVER 3,000 VEHICLES A MONTH.
THAT'S 100 VEHICLES A DAY, AND THEY'RE CLOSED ON WEDNESDAYS SO IT'S A VERY POPULAR SITE.
NUMBERS ARE A LITTLE BIT LOWER AT THE SMALLER SITES, SADDLEBACK MOUNTAIN WE'VE GOT 16,000 IN FISCAL YEAR 23, AND BALDI MOUNTAIN OPENED A LITTLE BIT LATER THAN EVERYTHING ELSE, AND IT'S AT 5,000 VISITORS FOR FISCAL YEAR 23.
FOR OPERATING COSTS ON THE SITES, WE NEED TO PAY FOR COMMERCIAL TRASH PICKUP.
ONE OF OUR BIG EXPENSES IS OUR TARGETS, THE STEEL TARGETS WE HAVE ON THE SITES.
WE'VE GONE THROUGH ABOUT 11 DIFFERENT DESIGNS TO TRY TO FIND SOMETHING THAT'LL HOLD UP TO THE ABUSE THEY SEE AT THOSE RANGES.
FIRST YEAR WAS A LOT OF MONEY.
I THINK WE FINALLY HAVE SOMETHING THAT'S LASTING MORE THAN A WEEK.
THE CURRENT DESIGN WE HAVE OUT THERE, ABOUT THREE MONTHS RIGHT NOW, AND THEY'RE DOING PRETTY WELL.
BUT WE DO HAVE TO REPLACE THOSE.
AT THIS POINT, FOR THE SMALLER TARGETS, THREE QUARTER INCH A OR 500 STEEL WITH BACK WELL BRACING THAT'S HALF INCH A OR 500.
THEY WORK REALLY WELL. THE WAY WE DO IT IS WE ROTATE AND WE PUT THEM ON 100 YARD RANGE WHERE THEY GET THE MOST ABUSE, THEN THEY GO TO 200 AND THEN THEY GO TO PISTOL RANGE BECAUSE THAT'S WHERE THEY CAN FINISH UP THEIR LIFE.
PART OF THE OPERATING COSTS IS TO PAY FOR ADDITIONAL STAFF THAT WILL BE PATROLLING THERE.
THAT'S OUR PARK RANGERS AND OUR LAW ENFORCEMENT.
THE ENFORCEMENT OUT THERE, WE'RE LOOKING AT OPPORTUNITY TO GET ADDITIONAL LAW ENFORCEMENT ON THE GROUND THROUGH THIS FEE COLLECTION BECAUSE IT'S ABOVE AND BEYOND WHAT WE GET IN OUR APPROPRIATED DOLLARS.
WE HAVE FACILITY MAINTENANCE WE NEED TO PAY FOR OUT THERE.
THAT'S SPECIFIC TO CHURCH CAMP AND THE BOX CANYON SITE IN THE LOWER SONORAN FIELD OFFICE, THAT'S THE VOLT TOILET CLEANING AND PUMPING TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT'S SAFE AND SANITARY.
THEN IT'S PROBABLY NOT GOING TO BE AN ANNUAL MAINTENANCE, BUT EVERY TWO YEARS OR SO, IT LOOKS LIKE WE'LL BE REBUILDING PART OF THE BERMS, SO WE'LL HAVE THE HEAVY EQUIPMENT RENTAL AND BRINGING IN MATERIAL SO THAT WE HAVE GOOD SAFE BACKSTOPS.
WE RELEASED OUR BUSINESS PLAN FOR PUBLIC COMMENT ON MAY 13, IT'S OPEN FOR A PUBLIC COMMENT FOR 30 DAYS.
THE PROPOSAL IS FOR THE EXISTING SITES AND THE FUTURE SITES THAT WE'RE PLANNING ON BUILDING AT TABLE MESA ROAD.
AGAIN, IT'S ALL TO OFFSET THE OPERATIONAL COSTS OF THE SITES.
THE PROPOSED FEE STRUCTURE THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT RIGHT NOW IS $10 PER DAY.
WE'LL HAVE THE OPTION FOR A MONTHLY PASS FOR $25 OR AN ANNUAL PASS FOR $80 A YEAR.
THE PERMITS WILL BE REQUIRED FOR ALL USERS AGED 17 AND OVER.
ANYONE UNDER 17 NEEDS TO BE ACCOMPANIED BY A PARENT OR A RESPONSIBLE ADULT WHO HAS A PASS.
THAT WORKED OUT, TOO FOR ANNUAL PASSES, WE WERE EXPECTING TO SELL AROUND 10,000, AND DAY USE PASSES, WE WERE ESTIMATING AT 15,000.
IT'S HARD TO GAUGE THOSE NUMBERS.
BUT THAT'S WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT IN TALKING TO BEN AVERY AND SOME OF THE GAME AND FISH PEOPLE.
I THINK WE'LL BE SENDING OUT THIS PRESENTATION AFTERWARDS.
THE BUSINESS PLANS ARE AVAILABLE ON THE WEBSITE, AND WE HAVE MULTIPLE WAYS THAT YOU CAN COMMENT.
YOU CAN SEND IN WRITTEN COMMENTS, WE HAVE AN E MAIL INBOX, WE SET UP SPECIFIC FOR THE RECREATION FOLKS SO THAT THEY CAN TAKE THOSE COMMENTS IN DIGITALLY.
>> IS THERE A PRESENTATION FOR THE COMPUTER?
>> THERE WASN'T, IT APPEARS THAT WE HAVE THE WRONG ONE LOADED ON YOUR COMPUTER.
>> A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS, IF YOU DON'T MIND, YOU'LL HAVE RED FLAG STATUS THERE THEN WHEN THE OPERATION OF THE SHOOTING RANGES ARE TAKING PLACE, CORRECT? FOR YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE A RED FLAG SO IT CAN BE SEEN 360.
IN THE RANGE AREA YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT A RED FLAG IS?
>> I DON'T THINK. IS THERE GOING TO BE A RANGE MASTER PRESENT?
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WE DO HAVE OUR VOLUNTEERS, LL OF OUR VOLUNTEERS, WE PUT THEM THROUGH THE NRA, RSO, THE RANGE SAFETY OFFICER COURSE.THE SITES WE CURRENTLY HAVE, WE DON'T ALLOW ANYONE PAST THE FIRING LINE DOWN RANGE, THEIR STEEL ONLY, SO WE DON'T HAVE HOT AND COLD RANGE TIMES ON THE EXISTING SITES.
NOW, WE'VE JUST STARTED THE DEVELOPMENT AND THE ENGINEERING DESIGN FOR THE TABLE MESA SITES.
THOSE ARE GOING TO HAVE TO OPERATE A LITTLE DIFFERENTLY BECAUSE WE DO WANT THE ABILITY FOR PEOPLE TO GO DOWN RANGE AND SET THEIR OWN TARGETS.
THAT IS SOMETHING WE'VE SEEN THAT PEOPLE DON'T LIKE ABOUT THE CHURCH SITE.
WE HAVE A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT SHOOTERS GROUPS THAT HAVE ASKED WHY CAN'T WE USE OUR OWN TARGETS.
WHEN WE GO INTO THE ENGINEERING DESIGN FOR TABLE MESA, WE'RE GOING TO TRY TO GET THAT ABILITY IN THERE FOR THEM TO SET UP THEIR OWN TARGETS.
IN WHICH CASE, THEN YES, WE'LL NEED TO HAVE RSOS ON SITE THAT CAN WATCH AND MAKE SURE NO ONE'S DOWNRANGE WHEN IT'S UNSAFE.
>> ONE OTHER THING, ARE YOU GOING TO ADHERE TO THE FIRE STATUS THE SAME AS WITH THE NATIONAL FOREST, OR ARE YOU GOING TO HAVE YOUR OWN FIRE STATUS?
>> WE'LL BE GOING INTO FIRE RESTRICTIONS TOMORROW.
WITH THE SHOOTING SPORTS SITES, WHAT WE'RE DOING IS WE WENT IN WITH WEED TREATMENT CONTRACT AND HAD THEM SPRAY THE SITES DOWN WITH PRE EMERGENT.
WE MISSED IT A LITTLE BIT THIS YEAR, AND WE STILL HAD STUFF GROW UP ON THE SITE.
THIS YEAR, THE SITES ARE GOING TO BE CLOSED DURING FIRE RESTRICTIONS, BUT EVENTUALLY, WE WOULD LIKE TO GET TO THE POINT WHERE WE CAN KEEP THEM OPEN ALL YEAR LONG.
>> WHO WILL ANNOUNCE THOSE FIRE RESTRICTIONS? WILL IT BE BLM OR WILL IT BE THE FOREST?
>> WE EACH HAVE OUR OWN PRESS RELEASE.
THE PRESS RELEASE THAT WE JUST DID FOR THE FIRE RESTRICTION STARTING TOMORROW IS JUST BLM LAND IN THE HASA FIELD OFFICE?
>> BECAUSE IT ALSO JOINS OUR PROCLAMATION AS LOW AS THE OTHER ONE BY THE FOREST SERVICE, SO BE AROUND THE SAME TIMES, I SUSPECT, CORRECT?
>> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FROM THE BOARD?
>> JUST A COMMENT, I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT WHAT YOU GUYS ARE DOING OUT THERE GETTING THOSE SHOOTERS IN A CONFINED AREA.
I KNOW TABLE MESA ROAD WAS LIKE THE WILD WEST FOR A WHILE.
I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT FOR THE SAFETY OF THE PUBLIC THAT WHAT YOU GUYS ARE DOING IS A GOOD THING, SO APPRECIATE THAT. THANK YOU.
>> WHAT'S THE LARGEST CALIBER WEAPON YOU ALLOW ON YOUR RANGES?
>> CURRENTLY, THE LARGEST WEAPON UP TO 50 BMG IS WHAT WE'RE ALLOWING.
50 BMG ISN'T THAT COMMON, BUT WHEN WE HAD THEM COME OUT TO THE RANGES, WE WERE SEEING A LOT OF DAMAGE, PARTICULARLY AT 100 YARDS, EVEN ON THAT THREE-QUARTER INCH PLATE.
INTERNALLY, WE'VE BEEN DISCUSSING IT A LITTLE BIT.
NOW, I SHOOT A LOT PERSONALLY.
I DON'T LIKE THE PATTERN, 50 CALIBER BAN.
WE'RE GOING TO BAN EVERYTHING THAT'S 50 CALIBER BECAUSE THERE'S LOTS OF THINGS THAT ARE 50 CALIBER THAT ARE NOT 50 BMG.
THERE ARE THINGS THAT HAVE THE ENERGY LEVELS OF A 50 BMG THAT ARE NOT 50 BMG.
WE'RE BEING VERY CAREFUL IN HOW WE WORD THAT.
THE WAY I'M LOOKING AT IT IS AT A FOOT POUNDS OF ENERGY LEVEL.
NOW, 200 YARDS IS A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT STORY.
WE CAN ALLOW THE HEAVIER CALIBERS OUT AT THE 200 YARD RANGE, I THINK THAT'S FINE, BUT THE HUNDRED YARD RANGE, WE'RE LOOKING AT WHAT KIND OF LIMITATION OR WHAT KIND OF FOOT POUNDS OF ENERGY WE'D BE IN STOPPING AT.
IT LOOKS LIKE IT'D BE PROBABLY AROUND NINE OR 10,000 FOOT POUNDS OF ENERGY.
>> WHAT'S THE MAX DISTANCE THAT PEOPLE CAN FIRE? IT'S AT THE SAME ON ALL RANGES, OR A LITTLE DIFFERENT?
OUR CHURCH CAMP SITE, WE HAVE BAYS AT 100 YARDS AND 200 YARDS.
ABOUT HALF OF THOSE BAYS HAVE BENCHES AT THEM.
THEN WE HAVE A 50 YARD RANGE THERE THAT'S PISTOLS ONLY.
ACROSS THE ROAD IS THE SADDLEBACK SITE.
SADDLEBACK HAS 18-INCH STEEL GONGS LOCATED 200-700 YARDS IN 100 YARD INTERVALS.
THEN THE BALDY SITE UP THE ROAD HAS 100-500 AT 100 YARD INTERVALS ON THE 18-INCH GONGS AS WELL.
>> WELL, IT SOUNDS LIKE YOU'VE DONE A LOT OF WORK TO MAKE SURE THIS IS A VERY ENJOYABLE RECREATION, SO THANK YOU FOR DOING THAT.
>> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? DOESN'T APPEAR TO BE.
THANK YOU FOR COMING AND GIVEN US AN UPDATE ON THIS.
>> WE WILL. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.
>> THANK YOU. MOVING ON TO CONSENT AGENDA.
IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THAT NUMBER 1 HAS BEEN TABLED INDEFINITELY.
[ CONSENT AGENDA (Routine items that may all be approved by one motion.)]
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NUMBER 10 IS BEING PULLED BY MR. ROBERT.NUMBER 20 IS BEING PULLED BY THE PUBLIC, AND NUMBER 24 IS TO CLARIFY SOME LEGAL.
THAT'S IT. ARE THERE ANY OTHERS THAT ANYONE HAS? NO. I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO ACCEPT ALL ITEMS IN THE CONSENT AGENDA, EXCLUDING ITEM NUMBER 1, 10, 20, AND 24.
>> SECONDED BY SUPERVISOR MICHAELS. ALL IN FAVOR?
>> MOVING TO NUMBER 1, WHICH WAS TABLE.
THAT'S JUST OFF, THAT'LL BE IN THE FUTURE.
[10. Community Health Services - Approve contract for grant funding from the Arizona Department of Health Services (ADHS) in the amount of $301,773.96, to provide Health Start Home Visits, reinstate fund number 0234, and authorize the Community Health Services Director to sign all related documents. YC Contract No. 2024-198]
>> GOOD MORNING, CHAIRMAN, VICE CHAIR AND BOARD OF SUPERVISORS.
>> I SEE, WE HAVE A GRANT REQUEST HERE, HEALTH START HOME VISITS.
CAN YOU TELL US A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THAT GRANT AND HOW IT'S GOING TO BE UTILIZED?
>> ABSOLUTELY. I APOLOGIZE, I DIDN'T INTRODUCE MYSELF.
LESLIE HORTON, COMMUNITY HEALTH SERVICES DIRECTOR.
THE HEALTH START PROGRAM IS ONE THAT WE HELD FROM JULY 1ST OF 2000 TO JULY 5TH OF 2022.
THE WAY THAT THE ARIZONA DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH SERVICES HAD THE STRUCTURE WAS THAT WE COULD ONLY BILL FEES PER VISIT ON THIS PROGRAM.
WE SEND COMMUNITY HEALTH WORKERS INTO THE HOME TO HELP PREGNANT AND POSTPARTUM WOMEN TO HELP THEM TO HEALTHFULLY, PHYSICALLY, MENTALLY, BEHAVIORALLY HELP THEIR BABIES DEVELOP.
WE ACTUALLY HAD TO CLOSE DOWN THE PROGRAM IN 2022.
IT WAS A VERY SAD SITUATION, BUT WE HAD CONTRIBUTED ABOUT $800,000 TOWARDS THE PROGRAM AT THAT POINT AND MADE THE DECISION.
WE ALSO WERE HAVING STRUGGLES KEEPING STAFF ON BOARD AT THE TIME, SO WE CLOSED THE PROGRAM.
WE WERE APPROACHED BY ARIZONA DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH SERVICES RECENTLY, AND ACTUALLY, WE APPROACHED THEM FIRST IN THE FACT THAT SOME OF THE OTHER SIMILAR PROGRAMS IN OUR AREA WERE CLOSING THEIR DOORS.
WE KNEW THAT THIS IS A NEED TO HAVE THESE SERVICES IN THE HOMES FOR YOUNG FAMILIES AND PREGNANT WOMEN.
WE ASKED THE STATE TO RE-LOOK AT THIS CONTRACT.
THEY HAD ALREADY STARTED LOOKING AT THE FEE STRUCTURE AND MADE IT A COST REIMBURSEMENT PROGRAM, WHICH ACTUALLY MAKES IT MUCH MORE FEASIBLE FOR US, ESPECIALLY IN A RURAL AREA TO SEND COMMUNITY HEALTH WORKERS OUT TO THE HOMES, COVER TRAVEL, COVER ALL THE EXPENSES OF THE PROGRAM.
THEY AGREED TO GRANT US THE $301,773 TO PICK THIS GRANT BACK UP, AND IT COMES IN A FIVE-YEAR INTERVAL.
>> THANK YOU. I KNOW THAT THIS WAS A PROGRAM WE HAD BEFORE AND THEN I WAS SUSPENDED.
I DO KNOW I TALKED TO THE PREVIOUS HEALTH DIRECTOR AND SHE SAID THAT BASICALLY THEY DIDN'T HAVE THE STAFF WITH THE CAPACITY TO CONTINUE THE HOME VISIT.
THAT IS PRETTY MUCH WHAT YOU'VE ALREADY INDICATED.
NOW, IS THIS ONLY FOR POSTPARTUM CARE OR CAN IT BE FOR OTHER TYPE OF HOME VISIT CARE?
>> GENERALLY, IT'S FOR PREGNANT WOMEN IN POSTPARTUM UP TO THEIR CHILDREN'S AGE OF TWO.
SOMETIMES WE CAN EXTEND THAT PERIOD, ESPECIALLY IF THERE ARE OTHER SITUATIONAL THINGS IN THE HOUSEHOLD, SAY, THERE'S DEVELOPMENTAL DELAYS OR OTHER THINGS.
WE CAN SOMETIMES EITHER REFER THEM TO A NEW PROGRAM TO CARRY ON BEYOND THE TWO YEARS, OR CONTINUE TO WORK WITH THEM.
IN THE PAST, WE HAD ASKED, AND WE RECEIVED FUNDING TO EXTEND THOSE SERVICES UP TO THE AGE OF FIVE.
I'LL BE APPROACHING THE STATE TO FIND OUT IF WE CAN GET EXTENDED FUNDING AND SERVE FAMILIES LONGER WITH THIS.
>> I ASSUME THIS IS SOME SERVICE YOU'RE GOING TO PROVIDE ON BOTH SIDES OF THE MOUNTAIN.
I HATE TO USE THAT TERM, BUT OBVIOUSLY, PEOPLE UNDERSTAND WHAT I MEAN WHEN I SAY THAT, BUT HOW ARE YOU NOTIFIED OF PEOPLE THAT NEED HOME CARE?
>>R WELL, WE WORK OFF REFERRALS OFTEN.
YRMC DIGNITY HEALTH HAS A SIMILAR PROGRAM CALLED HEALTHY FAMILIES, BUT THEY'RE RESTRICTED GEOGRAPHICALLY TO A RADIUS AROUND THE HOSPITAL.
OFTENTIMES, OUR REFERRALS EITHER COME FROM THE HOSPITAL OR FROM OTHER PROGRAMS THAT WE HAVE AT THE COMMUNITY HEALTH CENTER OR PEDIATRICIANS OFFICES OR OB OFFICES, WHERE THEY SEE SOMEONE WHO NEEDS A LITTLE BIT OF SUPPORT AND ASSISTANCE, AND THEY'LL REFER THEM TO HEALTH START.
HEALTHY FAMILIES SERVE SOME OF THE FAMILIES, BUT THEY'RE LIMITED ALSO BY CASE NUMBERS.
WE CAN PICK UP FAMILIES THAT ARE IN A CLOSE RADIUS TO ANY OF OUR HOSPITALS.
VERDI VALLEY MEDICAL CENTER HAS HAD A SIMILAR PROGRAM OVER THE YEARS AS WELL.
HOWEVER, WE OFTENTIMES ARE SERVING THE MORE RURAL AREAS OF THE COMMUNITIES,
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AND WE TRY TO, AS YOU MENTIONED, HAVE COMMUNITY HEALTH WORKERS IN EACH COMMUNITY.RIGHT NOW WE'RE LOOKING TO HIRE THREE COMMUNITY HEALTH WORKERS.
THEY'D BE POSITIONED IN AN OFFICE IN PRESCOTT VALLEY, AND IN COTTONWOOD, BUT WE TRY TO MAKE SURE THAT THOSE FOLKS HAVE THE HAVE SOME BILINGUAL ABILITIES SO THAT THEY CAN SERVE, ESPECIALLY IN OUR VERDI VALLEY SIDE.
WE END UP SERVING MANY HISPANIC FAMILIES AND SPANISH-SPEAKING FAMILIES.
WE TRY TO MAKE SURE THAT OUR SERVICES CAN SERVE AS MANY FAMILIES AS POSSIBLE AND RECEIVE REFERRALS FROM AGENCIES.
ANYONE WHO'S SEEING THEM, EVEN IF THAT'S AT THE DOCTOR'S OFFICE OR SAY WIC SEES A FAMILY, AND THEY THINK THAT HEALTH START WOULD BE A GOOD PROGRAM FOR THEM.
IN OUR STRUCTURE NOW, WE'RE GOING TO CO-HOUSE THIS PROGRAM UNDER THE WIC MANAGEMENT BECAUSE IT MAKES A LOT OF SENSE.
THERE'S A LOT OF FAMILIES THAT CAN UTILIZE BOTH PROGRAMS, AND SO CARRIE, OUR SECTION MANAGER HAS STEPPED UP AND IS WILLING TO TAKE THIS ON.
>> APPARENTLY, YOU NEED TO HAVE SOME ADDITIONAL PERSONNEL AND THEIR COSTS WILL BE COVERED BY THIS GRANT?
>> YES. THIS GRANT WILL FULLY COVER THOSE COSTS.
THANKFULLY, AGAIN, LIKE I MENTIONED, IT'S IN A DIFFERENT COST STRUCTURE WHERE IT'S COST REIMBURSEMENT.
AS LONG AS WE HAVE THOSE STAFF BUDGET IN THE GRANT, THEIR HOURS, THEIR TIME, AND ALL OF THE WORK THAT WE DO WILL BE COVERED.
>> THEY'LL BE PROVIDED A VEHICLE SO THAT THEY CAN GET OUT TO THE VARIOUS HOMES?
>> YES. THEY WILL USE OUR FLEET VEHICLES WITHIN THE COMMUNITY HEALTH CENTER AND YCCHS, WE'RE MERGING THAT FLEET.
>> THANK YOU. I DON'T HAVE ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS, AND CHAIRMAN, I'LL GO AHEAD AND MAKE A MOTION TO ACCEPT THIS ITEM.
> > I'LL SECOND THAT. SECOND BY MR. GREGORY.
>> AYE. JUST ONE QUICK QUESTION FOR JUST INFORMATIONAL.
THIS MONEY IS BASICALLY COMING THROUGH ARIZONA DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH SERVICES, CORRECT?
>> BUT IT IS FEDERAL MONEY, CORRECT?
>> GENERALLY, THE FUNDS THAT WE RECEIVE THROUGH THE STATE HEALTH DEPARTMENT ARE IN SOME WAY FILTERED DOWN FROM THE FEDERAL LEVEL.
THIS ONE DOES COME THROUGH THE OFFICE OF CHILDREN'S HEALTH, AND I BELIEVE THAT IT IS FEDERAL FUNDING.
>> LESLIE, DO YOU HAVE ANY PLANS TO USE YOUR SHINY TWO NEW VANS, JUST Y OPPORTUNITY THAT COULD TIE IN BEAUTIFULLY WITH OTHER NEEDS THAT THAT FAMILY MIGHT HAVE AS WELL, IF WE COULD GET THEM TO THE VAN.
>> ABSOLUTELY. AND THAT'S OUR MASTER PLAN IS TO REALLY DO A LOT OF REFERRING FROM PROGRAM TO PROGRAM.
WE REALLY DON'T NEED THE VANS FOR THIS ONE.
HOWEVER, THOSE REFERRALS, AND WHEN WE SEE PEOPLE IN THE COMMUNITIES, ESPECIALLY OUR MOST RURAL COMMUNITIES, WE'RE TRYING TO BRING SERVICES TO THEM, WHETHER IT'S IN THE HOME THROUGH THOSE VEHICLES.
IT'S A GREAT OPPORTUNITY TO SERVE BETTER AND SERVE PEOPLE WHERE THEY LIVE, WHERE THEY WORK, WHERE THEY PLAY.
>> THANK YOU FOR YOUR SUPPORT.
>> WE WILL GO TO NUMBER 20 FROM PUBLIC.
[20. Library District - The Board of Supervisors will resolve into the Board of Directors of the Yavapai County Free Library District and following consideration of this item, will reconvene as the Board of Supervisors - Approve acceptance and expenditure of Library Services and Technology Act (LSTA) grants awarded by the Arizona State Library, Archives and Public Records for the following programs: Navigating the Online World (NOW) in the amount of $65,000.00; Extended Reality at Black Canyon City Library in the amount of $4,000.00; Mommy and Me Early Literacy Program in the amount of $4,000.00; Writers in Residence in the amount of $7,500.00; and Yavapai County Free Library District Wi-Fi Hot Spots in the amount of $4,000.00; request establishment of new funds, and authorize the Library District Director to execute all related documents. YC Contract No. 2024-217 through 2024-221 (All Districts)]
MISS LUCI REYNA WHEAT.>> GOOD MORNING. CHAIRMAN AND SUPERVISORS.
MY NAME IS LUCI REYNA WHEAT, AND I'M A YAVAPAI COUNTY CITIZEN. OUR RESIDENT.
I'VE BROUGHT THIS ONE TO THE BOARD AGAIN.
WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE YAVAPAI COUNTY PUBLIC LIBRARY.
I JUST WANTED TO REMIND THE BOARD THAT IN ARIZONA STATE 43-502, BE PUBLIC LIBRARIES THAT PROVIDE A PUBLIC ACCESS, COMPUTER SHALL DO BOTH OF THE FOLLOWING.
ONE, DEPLOY AND ENFORCE A TECHNOLOGY PROTECTION MEASURE TO PREVENT MINORS FROM GAINING ACCESS TO VISUAL DEPICTIONS THAT ARE CHILD PORNOGRAPHY, HARMFUL TO MINORS OR OBSCENE.
THE ONLY REASON WHY THIS TYPE OF TECHNOLOGY OR PROTECTION SHOULD BE DISABLED IS IF SOMEONE REQUESTS THAT IS NOT A MINOR OR IF IT'S FOR RESEARCH AND OR LAWFUL PURPOSES.
NOT ONCE DOES IT SAY THAT THE ACCESS TO OR USE OF THE INTERNET BY MINOR CHILDREN UNDER THE AGE OF 18 IS SOLELY IN THE RESPONSIBILITY OF THE PARENT, LEGAL GUARDIAN OR RESPONSIBLE ADULT.
BUT FOR SOME REASON, THE YAVAPAI COUNTY LIBRARY POLICY AND PROCEDURE, IT SAYS THAT.
I'M REQUESTING OR ASKING IF THAT POLICY CAN GET CHANGED AND MATCH THE ARIZONA STATE STATUTE.
AS WELL AS I'M ALSO ASKING IF THERE CAN BE SOME TYPE OF PROTECTION MEASURE BEING PUT ON A MINOR'S LIBRARY CARD FOR THEM TO NOT HAVE ACCESS OR ALLOW THEM TO CHECK OUT BOOKS THAT ARE INAPPROPRIATE. THANK YOU.
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>> LIBRARY DIRECTOR, COREY CHRISTIANS.
>> THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN, MEMBERS OF THE BOARD.
THESE PARTICULAR GRANT PROGRAMS, WE DO HAVE ONE OF THESE, WHICH IS FOR WIRELESS HOT SPOTS TO BE IN THE LIBRARIES, WHICH THOSE WILL ACCESS THE INTERNET, PRESUMABLY, EITHER FROM HOME OR FROM SOME OTHER LOCATION IN WHICH SOMEBODY CHECKS THEM OUT.
IN ORDER TO BE ELIGIBLE FOR LIBRARY SERVICES AND TECHNOLOGY ACT GRANTS IS ADMINISTRATED THROUGH THE STATE LIBRARY, WE HAVE TO BE CHILDREN INTERNET PROTECTION ACT COMPLIANT.
THIS IS A FEDERAL LAW THAT STATES BEFORE WE CAN GET ANY FUNDS FROM THE INSTITUTE AND MUSEUM AND LIBRARY SERVICES, WHICH ADMINISTRATES THESE LSTA FUNDS.
WE HAVE TO BE COMPLIANT, AND WE ALSO HAVE TO SIGN A CERTIFICATION THAT SAYS WE'RE COMPLIANT WHICH WILL HAPPEN UPON APPROVAL OF THIS ITEM.
UNLESS WE HAVE THE CAPABILITY TO FILTER WITH OUR INTERNET CONNECTIONS, BOTH ONES THAT ARE ACCESSIBLE FROM HOME THAT THEY CHECK OUT FROM THE LIBRARY, AND ALSO INTERNET CONNECTIONS USED WITHIN THE LIBRARY, ALL HAVE TO BE CIPA COMPLIANT.
THAT DEFINITELY FALLS WITHIN LIBRARY POLICY.
WE ALSO FALL WITHIN STATE STATUTE, AND WE ALSO FALL WITHIN FEDERAL LAW.
>> WHAT YOU'RE BASICALLY SAYING IS WE'RE ALREADY IN COMPLIANCE IN ALL THREE AREAS, CORRECT?
>> THAT IS CORRECT AND WE'VE SIGNED SEVERAL CERTIFICATIONS TO THAT EFFECT THAT WE ARE CHILDREN INTERNET PROTECTION ACT COMPLIANT.
>> APPARENTLY, MISS WHEAT DOESN'T AGREE WITH YOU, SO I WOULD SUGGEST SHE SEE YOU AFTER THE MEETING OR SOME OTHER TIME IN THE FUTURE.
>> I WOULD BE MORE THAN HAPPY TO HAVE THAT CONVERSATION. THANK YOU, SIR.
>> THANK YOU. WITH THAT, I'LL MOVE TO ACCEPT ITEM NUMBER 20.
>> SECOND BY MISS MICHAELS. ALL IN FAVOR?
[24. Public Works - Approve acceptance of an application from Liberty Utilities Corporation (Cordes Lakes Water) to renew a water franchise agreement, and schedule a hearing for July 3, 2024, to approve said agreement. (District 2 - Supervisor Gregory)]
AND 24 IS FOR EDIFICATION OF THE BOARD IN REGARDS TO THIS ONE.>>> GOOD. THANK YOU, CHAIRMAN BROWN. VICE CHAIR MICHAELS.
I'M ROGER MCCORMICK, ASSISTANT DIRECTOR OF THE PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT.
THANK YOU, BOARD FOR HAVING ME UP HERE TODAY.
THIS IS, AS YOU SAID, CHAIRMAN BROWN, THIS IS MORE OF A CLARIFICATION TYPE THING.
THE AGENDA ITEM BEFORE YOU IS TO APPROVE ACCEPTANCE OF AN APPLICATION FOR LIBERTY UTILITIES CORPORATION, WHICH IS CORDIS LAKES WATER TO RENEW THEIR FRANCHISE AGREEMENT TO OPERATE WITHIN OUR RIGHT AWAY FOR THEIR WATER SYSTEM.
WITH THE APPLICATION THAT THE APPLICANT PUT FORWARD, IT REQUIRES SUBMISSION OF A LEGAL DESCRIPTION THAT DEFINES THE BOUNDARY OF THE WATER DISTRICT, AND THAT LEGAL DESCRIPTION HAD A FEW LINES OF THE LEGAL DESCRIPTION THAT WAS MISSING.
WE HAVE CORRECTED THAT LEGAL DESCRIPTION.
THE PORTION HERE THAT YOU CAN SEE, IT'S ABOUT 10 LINES WAS ADDED TO THAT LEGAL DESCRIPTION TO FULLY DESCRIBE THE BOUNDARY OF THE DISTRICT, AND JUST WANTED TO BRING THAT BEFORE YOUR ATTENTION SO THAT WE CLARIFY THAT THE LEGAL DESCRIPTION HAS BEEN UPDATED FOR THAT.
>> HAS THAT BEEN REVIEWED BY COUNSEL?
>> THE COUNTY LAWYERS ARE OKAY WITH IT?
>> WITH THAT, WE CAN GO AHEAD AND MAKE A MOTION TO ACCEPT?
>> YOU READY FOR A BREAK? WE'RE GOING TO TAKE ABOUT A 15 MINUTE BREAK, AND WE'LL COME BACK HERE AT 10:00.
YOU CHECK THAT MICS TESTING ALL WORKING.
[1. Board of Supervisors - Tentative approval of the County's primary and secondary budgets for Fiscal Year 2024-2025. (All Districts)]
TENANT APPROVAL OF THE COUNTY'S PRIMARY AND SECONDARY BUDGETS FOR FISCAL YEAR 24/25. MARTIN.>> THANK YOU. CHAIRMAN, VICE CHAIR MEMBERS OF THE BOARD.
BEFORE I BEGIN, JUST A QUICK COMMENT ON OUR AUDIO THIS MORNING AND VISITING WITH OUR ITS DIRECTOR.
OUR ISSUE IS OUR AUDIO AMPLIFIER IS OVERHEATING THIS MORNING.
YOU'LL SEE IT STAFF CONTINUALLY MAYBE RESETTING AND MONITORING, SO WE'RE WATCHING IT SO THAT'S WHAT'S GOING ON, SO WE MAY GO IN AND OUT, UNFORTUNATELY.
>> WE NEED BETTER AIR CONDITIONING OR WHAT?
>> AT LEAST BETTER AIR CONDITIONING OVER HERE IN THIS CORNER WHERE THE CABINET IS, APPARENTLY.
AGAIN, GETTING A LITTLE HOT OVER THERE.
>> MAYBE THE MEETINGS JUST HEATING UP.
>> LET'S NOT GO THERE. [LAUGHTER] AGAIN, GOOD MORNING.
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I STAND HERE BEFORE YOU THIS MORNING, AS THE CHAIRMAN INDICATED TO PRESENT OR TO BRING BEFORE YOU THE TENTATIVE PROPOSED COUNTY BUDGET FOR OUR NEXT FISCAL YEAR.THIS ACTION IS BROUGHT TO YOU CONSISTENT WITH ARIZONA STATE STATUTE THAT REQUIRES ON OR BEFORE THE THIRD MONDAY.
IN JULY EACH YEAR, THE GOVERNING BODY OF EACH COUNTY AND INCORPORATED CITY OR TOWN SHALL PREPARE A FULL AND COMPLETE STATEMENT OF THE POLITICAL SUBDIVISIONS FINANCIAL AFFAIRS FOR THE PRECEDING FISCAL YEAR.
HOW ENTITIES IN ARIZONA COMPLY WITH THAT IS THROUGH THE COMPLETION OF THE STATE REQUIRED FORMS. THOSE WERE ALL ATTACHED TO YOUR AGENDA MATERIAL FOR TODAY'S MEETING.
THIS ACTION IS THE TENTATIVE ADOPTION OF THE COUNTY'S FISCAL YEAR 2024/25 BUDGET.
FINAL ADOPTION OF THE COUNTY'S BUDGET IS SLATED TO OCCUR ON JULY 3RD OF THIS YEAR.
I'D LIKE TO MAKE A FEW COMMENTS ON JUST OVERVIEW OF WHERE WE LEFT OUR BUDGET DISCUSSIONS AND THE DIRECTION TO BRING BACK THE MANAGER'S PROPOSED BUDGET AS THE TENTATIVE BUDGET FOR THIS YEAR.
THE PROPOSED BUDGET INCLUDES, AND I'M GOING TO ROUND TO THE NEAREST MILLION, SO WE DON'T HAVE TO GO THROUGH ALL OF THE NUMBERS, A GENERAL FUND EXPENDITURE BUDGET OF $155 MILLION, SPECIAL REVENUE EXPENDITURES OF $266 MILLION DEBT SERVICE OF $7 MILLION FOR A TOTAL BUDGET OF $427 MILLION.
>> HOW THAT TRANSLATES INTO PROPERTY TAX RATES FOR THE COMING YEAR.
OUR GENERAL PROPERTY TAX RATE IS 1.6443 PER $1,000 A VALUE OF PROPERTY.
I'M PLEASED TO REPORT A CONSISTENT WITH THIS BOARD'S ACTION OVER THE LAST MANY YEARS, ANOTHER YEAR OF REDUCING THE RATE, THE RATE WILL DROP 0.0705 FROM LAST YEAR.
TURNING TO OUR LIBRARY DISTRICT, PROPOSED PROPERTY TAX RATE OF 0.1674 PER $1,000 A VALUE OF PROPERTY, THAT ALSO IS DOWN FROM LAST YEAR, DOWN 0.0076 PER $1,000 FROM LAST FISCAL YEAR.
FINALLY, OUR FLOOD CONTROL DISTRICT RATE 0.1346 PER $1,000 A VALUE OF PROPERTY, THAT IS ALSO DOWN 0.0058 PER $1,000 FROM LAST FISCAL YEAR.
ALL THREE TAXING RATES ARE PROPOSED TO BE DECREASED FOR THE COMING YEAR.
THE BUDGET ALSO CONTAINS A TOTAL FTE COUNT OF 1,811.
I DO AT THIS TIME, CHAIRMAN, WANT TO NOTIFY THE BOARD OF SOME, WHAT I'M CALLING ADJUSTMENTS TO WHERE WE LEFT DIRECTION TO COME BACK WITH THE MANAGER'S PROPOSED BUDGET AS THE TENTATIVE.
I WANT TO STRESS THAT NONE OF THESE AFFECT ANY OF THE BOTTOM LINE NUMBERS THAT I JUST WENT THROUGH.
BUT AGAIN, FULL TRANSPARENCY, I WANT TO MAKE YOU AWARE OF A FEW THINGS.
MY RECOLLECTION, THE WILL OF THE BOARD WAS, IF THERE WAS ANY WAY, WE WANTED TO LOOK AT THE REQUEST FROM THE SUPERIOR COURT CLERK'S OFFICE FOR AN ADDITIONAL DEPUTY JURY COMMISSIONER TO DEAL WITH WORKLOAD PRIMARILY AT THE NEW FACILITY OUT ON PRESCOTT LAKES PARKWAY.
HOWEVER, WE DID NOT MAKE ANY DECISIONS TO DO THAT BECAUSE OF TRYING TO HOLD THE LINE, IF YOU WILL, ON OUR EXPENDITURES FOR THIS COMING YEAR.
I WAS ABLE TO WORK WITH THE SUPERIOR COURT CLERK AND I'M PLEASED TO REPORT, AS OF YESTERDAY, WE HAVE COME UP WITH A SOLUTION FOR THAT THAT WE CAN FILL THAT POSITION.
SHE HAS AGREED TO CONVERT AN EXISTING UNFILLED POSITION REMARKABLY AT THE SAME GRADE LEVEL TO THIS DEPUTY JURY COMMISSIONER, SO WE ARE PROPOSING THAT WE MAKE THAT CHANGE.
YOU MAY RECALL THAT OUR PRESIDING JUDGE, AS WELL AS SHERIFF, WERE ALL ADVOCATING THAT THIS WAS A NEEDED POSITION, SO I'M VERY PLEASED THAT WE WERE ABLE TO FIGURE THAT ONE OUT AND GET THAT INCLUDED AT NO ADDITIONAL COST TO THE COUNTY.
SPEAKING OF THE SUPERIOR COURT CLERK, ABOUT THE TIME, I BELIEVE, THAT WE WERE WRAPPING UP OUR BUDGET CONVERSATIONS, THE ADMINISTRATIVE OFFICE OF THE COURTS RELEASED THEIR SALARY STUDY FOR OUR COURT CLERK'S OFFICES STATEWIDE, PROPOSING, MY WORDS, FAIRLY SIGNIFICANT INCREASES FOR STAFF IN OUR SUPERIOR COURT CLERK'S OFFICES, AGAIN, STATEWIDE.
I ASK OUR HUMAN RESOURCES DIRECTOR TO ANALYZE THAT WORK.
UPON COMPLETION OF THAT ANALYSIS, WE BELIEVED WHAT WAS BEING PROPOSED WAS HIGHER THAN WAS NEEDED IN YAVAPAI COUNTY, AND IN FACT WOULD CREATE SOME INTERNAL ISSUES WITHIN OUR SALARY STRUCTURE IF WE WERE TO ADOPT THEM.
HOWEVER, WE ALSO AGREE THAT THERE ARE SOME NEEDED ADJUSTMENTS TO BE MADE IN THE SUPERIOR COURT CLERK'S OFFICE.
THEY ARE CONTINUING TO STRUGGLE WITH SIGNIFICANT ISSUES WITH RECRUITMENT
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AND RETENTION AND CONCERNS ABOUT THE WAGES THAT ARE BEING PAID THERE.AGAIN, SOME GOOD NEWS, WE'VE PROPOSED TO INCLUDE, IN THIS BUDGET, AGAIN, WITHIN THE EXISTING NUMBERS YOU'VE ALREADY APPROVED, WE CAN MAKE SOME OF THOSE SALARY ADJUSTMENTS WITHIN HER EXISTING BUDGET, HOPEFULLY, TO ADDRESS THE SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF TURNOVER IN THOSE POSITIONS IN THE SUPERIOR COURT CLERK'S OFFICE.
NEXT, PUBLIC WORKS HAD REQUESTED A TRANSFER OF ABOUT $40,000 FROM THE REGIONAL ROADS TO THE GENERAL FUND SOLID WASTE FOR THE PAULDEN TRANSFER STATION.
AGAIN, NO CHANGE TO BOTTOM LINE, BUT JUST WANTED TO MAKE YOU AWARE OF THAT IN ORDER TO GET THAT TRANSFER STATION ISSUE ADDRESSED.
THAT WAS THE RECOMMENDATION OF THE PUBLIC WORKS DIRECTOR, AND WE CONCURRED THAT THAT MADE SENSE.
>> IS PART OF THAT DUE TO THE PAYOFF OF COYOTE SPRINGS AND POQUITO VALLEYS?
>> NO, I DON'T BELIEVE THAT'S RELATED TO THAT ISSUE.
NEXT ISSUE IS ANOTHER ONE OF POTENTIAL, AND I'LL SAY POTENTIAL GOOD NEWS, WE'RE LOOKING INTO THIS, JUST CAME TO OUR ATTENTION THIS WEEK.
YOU MAY RECALL THAT THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE HAD THE VERDE VALLEY TOWER COMPUTER REPLACEMENT PROJECT.
WE MAY HAVE INADVERTENTLY BUDGETED FOR SOME DUPLICATE EXPENSES THROUGH THE USE OF ARPA FUNDS AND THE IT, SO HOPEFULLY WE CAN REDUCE A LITTLE BIT OF THE EXPENDITURE THERE.
FINAL NOTE THAT I WOULD MAKE IS, WE'VE HAD SOME ONGOING CONVERSATIONS WITH OUR COUNTY ASSESSOR AND REQUEST FOR A RECLASSIFICATION THERE.
WE'VE NOT BEEN ABLE TO COME TO A RESOLUTION ON THAT, INTEND TO WITH THE HUMAN RESOURCES DIRECTOR, CONTINUE TO WORK WITH THE ASSESSOR.
MY PLAN THERE WOULD BE, IF WE CAN DO THAT WITHIN EXISTING RESOURCES, WITHIN HIS BUDGET, THAT LIKELY WILL MAKE SENSE, BUT AGAIN, NO CHANGE TO THE BOTTOM LINE NUMBERS.
WITH THAT, MR. CHAIRMAN, BE HAPPY TO STAND FOR QUESTIONS.
>> YES. YOU HAVE THE DUPLICATE FUNDING OR YOU'RE GOING TO BE USING ARPA INSTEAD OF GENERAL FUNDS?
>> THANK YOU, SUPERVISOR OBERG.
YES, TO THE GREATEST EXTENT POSSIBLE, WE WILL DO THAT.
>> NO QUESTIONS. THANK YOU FOR YOUR WORK [INAUDIBLE].
>> I HAVE ONLY ONE QUESTION, SO WHAT WE'RE GOING TO BE VOTING ON HERE IF WE HAVE A MOTION IS FOR THE TENTATIVE, THEREFORE THE SECOND VOTE IS THE ONE THAT'S REALLY IMPORTANT, AND THAT OCCURS ON AUGUST WHAT AGAIN?
>> WHICH IS ONLY A FEW WEEKS OFF.
>> I'D BE HONORED TO MAKE THAT MOTION.
>> SECONDED BY SUPERVISOR MICHAELS. ALL IN FAVOR.
>> THAT'S TO THE TENTATIVE BUDGET.
THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS IS GOING TO RESOLVE INTO THE BOARD OF DIRECTORS OF
[2. Board of Supervisors - The Board of Supervisors will resolve into the Board of Directors of the special improvement districts and following consideration of this item, will reconvene as the Board of Supervisors - Approve the tentative budgets for Fiscal Year 2024-2025 for the following special and improvement districts: a. Yavapai County Flood Control District b. Yavapai County Free Library District c. Yavapai County Jail District d. Ash Fork Street Lighting Improvement District e. Seligman Street Lighting Improvement District f. Yarnell Street Lighting Improvement District g. Seligman Sanitary District h. Poquito Valley Road Improvement District]
THE SPECIAL IMPROVEMENT DISTRICTS IN THE FOLLOWING CONSIDERATION OF THIS ITEM, WILL RECONVENE AS THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS.APPROVE THE TENTATIVE BUDGETS FOR FISCAL YEAR OF 2024/'25 FOR THE FOLLOWING SPECIAL IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT.
YOU HAVE PIKE COUNTY FLOOD, YOU HAVE PIKE COUNTY FREE LIBRARY, YOU HAVE PIKE COUNTY JAIL DISTRICT, ASH FORK STREET LIGHTING IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT, SALIGMAN STREET LIGHTING IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT, YARNELL STREET LIGHTING IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT, SALGMAN SANITARY DISTRICT, AND POQUITO VALLEY ROAD IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT.
DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY SPECIFIC QUESTIONS THEY WANT TO ASK OF THOSE DIRECTORS?
>> NO. I DON'T SEE ANY. GO AHEAD, MARTIN.
>> ACTUALLY I HAVE, CHAIRMAN, NOTHING TO ADD TO THAT EITHER.
THESE ARE FAIRLY STRAIGHTFORWARD.
>> THE ONLY THING I JUST WANT TO MAKE A NOTE IS ON THE POQUITO VALLEY ROAD IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT.
WE BELIEVE THAT IS PAID OFF, WE'RE WAITING FOR THE PAPERWORK TO COME THROUGH FROM BOTH SIDES, AND THAT WAY, IT'LL BE BASICALLY NO TAX THIS YEAR, SO AFTER IT GOES AWAY.
>> CHAIRMAN, THE ONLY COMMENT I WOULD ADD IS, OF COURSE, HOPEFULLY YOU SAW ALL OF THOSE STATE FORMS ARE ATTACHED TO YOUR AGENDA ITEM AS WELL.
>> MR. CHAIRMAN, I WOULD MOVE THAT WE APPROVE THE TENTATIVE BUDGETS FOR THOSE DISTRICTS CITED.
>> SECONDED BY MISS MICHAELS. ALL IN FAVOR?
>> COMMUNITY HEALTH SERVICES APPROVED THE USE OF THE YAVAPAI COUNTY'S ALLOCATION OF
[3. Community Health Services - Approve use of Yavapai County's allocation of Opioid settlement monies under the One Arizona Distribution Agreement (Agreement) to fund up to $950,112.00 in opioid use prevention grants and projects, and authorize the Community Health Services Director to sign all related documents.]
OPIOID SETTLEMENT MONIES UNDER THE ON ARIZONA DISTRIBUTION AGREEMENT TO FUND UP TO $950,112 AND OPIOID USE[00:55:01]
PREVENTION GRANTS AND PROJECTS AND AUTHORIZED COMMUNITY HEALTH SERVICES DIRECTOR TO SIGN ALL RELATED DOCUMENTS. GOOD MORNING AGAIN.>> GOOD MORNING AGAIN, LESLIE HORTON, COMMUNITY HEALTH SERVICES DIRECTOR.
I APPRECIATE A FEW MOMENTS TO DISCUSS OUR OPIOID SETTLEMENT FUNDS.
IT'S MY HOPE TO COME TO YOU EACH YEAR WITH INFORMATION IN REGARDS TO THE OPIOID SETTLEMENT FUNDS.
CURRENTLY, THE HEALTH DEPARTMENTS IN EACH COUNTY ARE TASKED WITH RECEIVING FUNDS.
WE'VE LEARNED THIS YEAR THAT THEY'RE COMING INTO THE TREASURER'S OFFICE AND GOING BACK OUT TO EIGHT LOCAL JURISDICTIONS.
THERE'S PERCENTAGES DECIDED WITHIN THE SETTLEMENT AGREEMENT.
BUT THEN THE COUNTY GETS TO KEEP A PORTION OF THOSE FUNDS.
IT'S A CLOSE TO 70% OF THOSE FUNDS THAT COME INTO THE COUNTY.
AS A HEALTH DIRECTOR, I ALWAYS WANT TO COME TO YOU WITH GUIDED DECISIONS THAT TAKE INPUT FROM ALL THE STAKEHOLDERS IN THE AREAS OF WORK THAT WE NEED TO SEE AROUND REDUCING THE BURDEN OF OPIOID USE AND ABUSE IN OUR COMMUNITIES, AND SO WHEN WE COME TO YOU WITH PROJECTS AND PROPOSALS, I'VE TAKEN A LOT OF INPUT FROM THE COMMUNITY FROM FOLKS THAT HAVE GREAT IDEAS AND WHAT WE CAN DO BETTER IN OUR COMMUNITIES.
SOME OF THESE ARE PROGRAM EXPANSIONS, SOME ARE PROGRAM EXTENSIONS, AND SOME ARE BRAND NEW PROGRAMS THAT WILL SERVE OUR COMMUNITIES BETTER.
I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU GET ALL THE INFORMATION YOU NEED BECAUSE THERE'S A LOT THAT COMES TODAY FOR YOUR APPROVAL, BUT I ALSO WANT YOU TO HAVE THE CHANCE TO ASK QUESTIONS IN REGARDS TO THESE PROGRAMS AS WELL.
YOU PROBABLY GOT A GIGANTIC PACKET IN THIS ACTION ITEM THAT INCLUDES PROPOSED PROJECTS FOR COMMUNITY GRANTS, PROPOSED PROJECTS FOR INTERNAL YAVAPAI COUNTY USE AS WELL, AND SO I WILL GET STARTED.
CURRENTLY, IN THE OPIOID SETTLEMENT AGREEMENT, AND THIS CHANGES FROM TIME TO TIME, AND I'LL TELL YOU WHY, BUT CURRENTLY WE HAVE JANSSEN AND AMERISOURCE, CARDINAL, MCKESSON, MALLINCKRODT, WALMART, WALGREEN, CVS, ALLERGAN, TEVA.
COMING SOON, I JUST GOT AN E MAIL A COUPLE OF DAYS AGO THAT KROGER IS BEING ADDED.
I'M NOT SURE HOW MANY MORE COMPANIES WILL BE ADDED OVER TIME, BUT WE DO KNOW CERTAIN ONES ARE FILING BANKRUPTCY, LIKE MALLINCKRODT, WE'VE BEEN TOLD THAT WE WILL PROBABLY NOT RECEIVE ANY MORE FUNDING FROM THEM, THAT WE'VE PROBABLY RECEIVED YEAR 1 AND 2, AND THAT THEY ARE NO LONGER GOING TO BE PART OF THE SETTLEMENT.
BUT THAT THERE MAY BE MORE SETTLING THIS YEAR.
MORE COULD FILE BANKRUPTCY. I'M NOT SURE.
>> CHAIR, MAYBE WE COULD ASK, LESLIE TO GIVE A LITTLE HISTORY.
I THINK IT MIGHT BE PEOPLE HERE THAT DON'T KNOW WHAT THIS IS EVEN ALL ABOUT.
>> ABSOLUTELY. THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT I WAS GOING TO MENTION.
WITH THE OPIOID SETTLEMENT AGREEMENTS.
IT REMINDS ME A LOT, MY FIRST JOB WITH THE COUNTY WAS BEING A TOBACCO HEALTH EDUCATOR, AND THAT WAS FUNDED THROUGH THE TOBACCO SETTLEMENT FUNDS.
WHAT HAPPENS IN THESE SETTLEMENTS IS A PRODUCT OR A DRUG HAS ADVERSELY AFFECTED OUR COMMUNITIES, EITHER THROUGH DEATH OR.
>> LESLIE, LET ME JUMP IN FRONT OF YOU HERE.
>> THIS IS AS OF THE SETTLEMENT.
ACTUALLY, THE SETTLEMENT WAS, AS EVERYBODY REMEMBERS BACK WHEN OPIOIDS WERE BEING GIVEN OUT IN A LARGE AMOUNTS AND DOSES TO PEOPLE THAT REALLY DIDN'T NEED TO TAKE THEM.
SUBSEQUENTLY, THERE WAS FEDERAL ACTION THAT WAS TAKEN ALONG WITH STATE ACTIONS AGAINST THE OPIOID MANUFACTURERS BECAUSE OF THE HIGHLY ADDICTIVE NATURE OF THE DRUGS.
THEN SUBSEQUENTLY, THE COURTS FOUND THAT AND THERE WAS AN AGREEMENT THAT THEY WOULD PAY FOR THE BASICALLY FOR US TO ADMINISTER PROGRAMS AND THINGS TO REDUCE OPIOID ADDICTION.
THAT IS WHY WE ARE HERE TODAY.
HOWEVER, WE DID NOT JOIN IN THAT ACTION ORIGINALLY.
WE DID AS A COUNTY, BUT WE WERE INCLUDED IN THE SETTLEMENT. THANK YOU.
>> THAT WAS A VERY GOOD DESCRIPTION.
>> I HAD A QUESTION MARK ON YOUR FOREHEAD, SO.
>> WELL, WE DO, WE RECEIVE THESE FUNDS.
WE ALSO, LIKE I HAD MENTIONED, EIGHT OF OUR LOCAL JURISDICTIONS SIGNED UP.
OUR CITIES AND TOWNS ALSO RECEIVE A PROPORTION OF THOSE FUNDS, AND IT HAS TO DO WITH HOW THEY APPLIED AND HOW IN THEIR APPLICATION THEY DESCRIBE THE BURDEN OF THE SUBSTANCE USE IN THEIR COMMUNITIES OR THE OPIOIDS AND THE BURDEN THAT THAT HAS POSED ON THEM.
CURRENTLY AND TO DATE, YAVAPAI COUNTY HAS RECEIVED 4,600,116.87.
JUST OVER FOUR MILLION. AFTER DISBURSEMENTS TO THE EIGHT LOCAL CITIES AND TOWNS, THEY'VE RECEIVED A TOTAL OF 1.2 MILLION OR 1.23 MILLION.
WE HAVE RECEIVED $2,775,838.38 APPROXIMATELY OR POSSIBLY EXACTLY.
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IN THE SECOND YEAR OF THE OPIOID SETTLEMENT, YCCHS IS REQUESTING, AND I'M ASKING YOU FOR APPROVAL OF USAGE OF $950,112.OF THESE FUNDS, THIS IS AN 18 YEAR SETTLEMENT, AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT YOU'LL NOTICE IS WE HAVE NOT SPENT ALL THE MONEY WE'VE RECEIVED TO DATE.
BUT WE DO KNOW, WE'VE SEEN PROJECTIONS OF HOW THE OPIOID SETTLEMENT IS GOING TO BE PROJECTED OUT IN TERMS OF MONEY THAT WE'LL RECEIVE.
LIKE I SAID, WE DON'T KNOW HOW MANY COMPANIES WILL JOIN INTO THE SETTLEMENT.
HOWEVER, WE'VE SEEN PROJECTIONS THAT YEARS 1, 2, AND 3 WILL BE HIGHER AMOUNTS OF MONEY COMING IN TO THE COUNTIES AND ALL THE JURISDICTIONS, AND THEN ABOUT YEARS 4-7 ARE GOING TO BE LOWER, POSSIBLY SIGNIFICANTLY LOWER, LIKE 50%.
SOME OF THE COMPANIES CHOSE TO PRELOAD SOME OF THEIR PAYMENTS.
SOME OF THE COMPANIES LIKE TEVA WENT AHEAD AND PROVIDED NARCAN TO ALL THE STATES THAT WERE IN THE SETTLEMENT, AND THEY PROVIDED A TON OF NARCAN AS THEIR SETTLEMENT OF THE PAYMENTS THAT THEY HAD TO GIVE.
THAT IS WHY WE CAN CARRY FORWARD SOME OF THE FUNDS.
BUT LIKE I SAID IN THE BEGINNING, WE REALLY WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THESE FUNDS ARE PUT TO GOOD USE, THAT THEY'RE SERVING OUR ENTIRE COUNTY, AND THAT THEY ALSO FUND A WIDE DISTRIBUTION OF THE ALLOWABLE ACTIVITIES WITHIN THE SETTLEMENT AGREEMENT.
WITHIN THE SETTLEMENT AGREEMENT, THERE'S A WHOLE APPENDIX A, WHICH GIVES US ALL OF THE ABATEMENT STRATEGIES WE'RE ALLOWED TO DO.
THERE'S TONS OF THEM, AND SO WHAT WE'VE DONE THE LAST TWO YEARS, WE WERE VERY THANKFUL TO THE ATTORNEY'S OFFICE AND EVERYBODY WHO HAS PITCHED IN TO HELP US OUT, FINANCE, ALSO, MAKING SURE THAT WE PUT TOGETHER A FAIR AND GOOD GRANT APPLICATION.
WE HAD DECIDED THAT $50,000 PER GRANT APPLICATION WAS A GOOD CEILING FOR THOSE GRANTS.
WE'VE OFFERED UP LAST YEAR AND THIS YEAR, GRANT OPPORTUNITIES TO OUR COMMUNITIES.
>> LAST YEAR, I WAS JUST GOING TO GIVE A REMINDER OF WHAT WE FUNDED.
THROUGH THAT GRANT APPLICATION, WE FUNDED STEPS TO RECOVERY AT $50,000, MATFORCE AT $50,000, MANZANITA OUTREACH AT 49,147, COMPLETE CARE PARTNERS AT 31,000.
YAVAPAI BIG BROTHERS BIG SISTERS, AT 13,372.
THEN INTERNALLY, YOU APPROVED THE USE OF FUNDING TOWARDS A PANT REQUEST.
AT THE TIME SHEILA PULK AND DAVID RHODES PUT IN A PANT REQUEST FOR $250,000 THAT THE BOARD APPROVED THAT REQUEST WAS OFFERED UP TO CITIES AND TOWNS WHEN THEY RECEIVED THEIR PORTION OF THE SETTLEMENT.
IF THEY DID NOT WANT TO UTILIZE IT THEMSELVES OR WEREN'T QUITE SURE WHAT THEY'D USE IT FOR IN THAT FIRST YEAR, THEY COULD GIVE TOWARDS THAT PANT REQUEST AND MANY OF THEM DID.
THEY MADE UP ALMOST THE ENTIRETY OF THAT $250,000 REQUEST.
THEN MENTAL HEALTH CONFERENCE SCHOLARSHIPS, WE JUST APPROVED ON ONE OF THE LAST AGENDAS, AND OUR SECTION MANAGER FOR SUBSTANCE ABUSE AND MENTAL HEALTH PROGRAMMING, WHO IS HERE, JAMES TOBIN.
HE'S GOING TO HELP ME WITH THIS PRESENTATION.
WE APPROVED HIS WORK IN THIS, AND HE HELPS IN A HUGE WAY TO COORDINATE ALL OF THESE PROJECTS AND THE WORK THAT WE'RE DOING AND MAKE SURE THAT HE'S MAINTAINING AN EYE ON WHAT'S NEEDED IN THE COMMUNITIES AS WELL.
FOR THIS YEAR. WE ARE PROPOSING THROUGH THE GRANT PROCESS.
WE HAD A SELECTION COMMITTEE, IT'S MYSELF, KATHY, OUR ADMINISTRATOR AND THE DEPARTMENT, CARA LEWIS, OUR ASSISTANT DIRECTOR, JAMES TOBIN.
TARA NEWMAN, GARY THURGARD, AND BRIAN PRIETO, ALL HELP US WITH THIS SELECTION.
THERE ARE PEOPLE WHO WORK WITH US ON A LOT OF THESE ISSUES.
WE HAD ACTUALLY INVITED SEVERAL MORE TO THE COMMITTEE, BUT THEY'VE GONE AND APPLIED FOR THE GRANTS, SO IT MADE THEM INELIGIBLE TO BE ON THE COMMITTEE.
WHEN WE WERE LOOKING THROUGH THE APPLICATIONS, WE GOT 11 APPLICATIONS THIS YEAR.
BECAUSE WE HAD MORE MONEY COMING IN, WE DECIDED TO GO AHEAD.
THEY WERE REALLY GREAT APPLICATIONS.
YOU HAVE COPIES OF ALL OF THE CONTRACTS THAT WE'VE PUT TOGETHER.
BUT THIS IS A RUNDOWN OF THE ONES THAT WE WOULD LIKE TO FUND THIS YEAR.
EMBRY RIDDLE IS ASKING FOR 19,388 FOR AN ELDER OPIOID ABUSE RESEARCH PROJECT.
GRANITE MOUNTAIN BEHAVIORAL HEALTH IS ASKING FOR $5,000 FOR MENTAL HEALTH FIRST AID TRAINING FOR THEIR STAFF.
HUSHABYE NURSERY IS ASKING FOR $50,000 FOR
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NEONATAL ABSTINENCE SYNDROME AND OPIOID FAMILY SUPPORT.THEY DO GREAT WORK WITH MOTHERS WHO MAY HAVE SUBSTANCE ISSUES AND THEIR BABIES THAT ARE BORN AND MAY NEED A LITTLE ADDITIONAL HELP OR A LOT AT TIMES.
MANZANITA OUTREACH IS ASKING FOR 50,000 TO CONTINUE WHAT THEY WERE DOING LAST YEAR WITH THEIR FUNDING OR THIS PAST YEAR AND CONTINUE TO EXPAND THAT.
MATFORCE IS ASKING FOR $50,000 TO CONTINUE AND EXPAND THEIR PREVENTION WORK IN THE SCHOOLS WITH YOU.
POLARA IS ASKING FOR $50,000 FOR OPIOID PATIENT BEHAVIORAL HEALTH RESPONSE.
STEPS TO RECOVERY, PUT IN TWO GRANTS.
THEY'RE ASKING FOR AN EXPANSION ON WHAT THEY APPLIED FOR LAST YEAR, WHICH THEY'VE BEEN DOING A GREAT JOB WITH THAT PROJECT AS WELL, AND EXPANDING THEIR SERVICES AND HOUSING AND THEN ANOTHER 50,000 TO EXPAND MORE OF WHAT THEY'RE DOING IN THE VERDE VALLEY.
SO YAVAPAI REGIONAL ALSO IS ASKING FOR $50,000 FOR THEIR HEALTHY FAMILIES PROGRAM, WHICH IS ONE I MENTIONED EARLIER, THAT'S SIMILAR TO HEALTH START, AND THEY ALSO WORK WITH FAMILIES THAT HAVE SUBSTANCE USE ISSUES.
COUPLE OF THE APPLICATIONS, ACTUALLY, WE MOVED INTO INTERNAL PROJECTS BECAUSE THEY WERE INTERNAL TO THE COUNTY.
>> [OVERLAPPING] QUICK QUESTION?
>> YAVAPAI REGION. WHICH GROUP IS THAT? YAVAPAI REGION OR WHAT?
>> YAVAPAI REGIONAL AND DIGNITY.
THE HEALTHY FAMILIES PROGRAM IS THEY HAVE THE FIRST STEPS PROGRAM, AND HEALTHY FAMILIES IS THE ONE, AS I MENTIONED, IS VERY SIMILAR TO HEALTH START.
THEY SERVE FAMILIES IN THE HOME, AND THEY OFTEN.
>> YRMC. YES. THOSE ARE THE PROJECTS THAT WE ARE ASKING TO FUND OUT OF THE GRANT REVIEW PROCESS.
THESE ARE ONES THAT APPLIED FOR THEM FUNDING, AND IT DOES HELP US TO DISTRIBUTE THE FUNDS AND DO A WHOLE LOT MORE THAN WE COULD DO INTERNALLY WITH THOSE FUNDS, AND SO DOES ANYONE ELSE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THESE ONES?
>> NOT ABOUT THOSE FUNDS, BUT THE LAST SLIDE SAID, 250,000 GOING TOWARD PANT FOR 23, 24TH.
IS IT 24, 25 FOR THE FOLLOWING YEAR?
>> THE YAVAPAI COUNTY PROJECT.
THEY'RE GOING TO BE INCLUDED HERE.
INTERNALLY, SO THESE ARE COUNTY USED FUNDS OF THE OPIOID SETTLEMENT.
THOSE ARE COMMUNITY FUNDS THAT WE'LL HAVE GRANTS PUT TOGETHER IN CONTRACTS THAT YOU SEE IN YOUR PACKET.
NOW, WITH THE YEAR 2 PROPOSED YAVAPAI COUNTY PROJECTS, YES, PANT HAS PUT IN ANOTHER $250,000 REQUEST.
AGAIN, WITH BOARD APPROVAL, WE WILL OFFER THAT TO CITIES AND TOWNS TO CONTRIBUTE TO.
THEN WE WILL FILL ANY REMAINING FUNDING UP TO THE $250,000 REQUEST THAT WE'VE RECEIVED.
WE ALSO ONE OF THE APPLICATIONS THAT WE RECEIVED WAS FOR A DATA DASHBOARD, WHICH I DO THINK WOULD BE FABULOUS FOR US TO BE ABLE TO SHOW THE COMMUNITY AND EVEN SHOW YOU THE BOARD WHAT WE'RE DOING WITH THESE FUNDS.
THIS WOULD BE A DASHBOARD PUT TOGETHER BY AN ORGANIZATION THAT DOES THESE FOR OTHER COUNTIES AND OTHER PLACES THAT CAN HELP US TO SHOW THE IMPACT OF THESE FUNDS AND HOW THEY'RE AFFECTING THE COMMUNITY, WHICH I THINK IS AN IMPORTANT ASPECT OF THIS SO THAT I CAN SHOW A MEASURED CHANGE WITHIN OUR COMMUNITIES.
YAVAPAI SUPERIOR COURT ASKED US FOR $50,000 FOR DRUG TESTING SUPPLIES, AND WE IN WORKING WITH THEM, THEY HAVE ASKED FOR AN MOU RATHER THAN A GRANT CONTRACT BECAUSE THEY'RE INTERNAL TO THE COUNTY.
WE BELIEVE THAT THAT'S A GREAT PROJECT AND IT'S A NEED FOR THEM.
>> IS THIS GOING TO BE FOR PEOPLE ENTERING THE SUPERIOR COURT AS DEFENDANTS, OR IS THIS GOING TO BE FOR OUR EMPLOYEES?
IT IS FOR THE FOR THE FOLKS THAT THEY SERVE, NOT NECESSARILY THE EMPLOYEES.
THEN WE HAVE COMMUNITY HEALTH CENTER OF YAVAPAI WITH A $62,000 REQUEST FOR OPIOID OVERDOSE AND USE DISORDER RESPONSE WITH A COMMUNITY HEALTH WORKER THAT CAN HELP TO NAVIGATE FOLKS THAT ARE DEALING IN SUBSTANCE USE AND SUBSTANCE ABUSE ISSUES, AND SOMETHING THAT IS DEFINITELY NEEDED WITHIN OUR CLINIC.
COMMUNITY HEALTH SERVICES. ACTUALLY, I'M GOING TO HAVE JAMES JUMP IN BECAUSE I'M DOING HIS PART OF THE PRESENTATION AND I SHOULD NOT BE.
I'M GOING TO HAVE HIM JUMP IN AND EXPLAIN THESE PROJECTS A LITTLE BIT BETTER.
JAMES, COME ON. JAMES TOBIN, HE'S OUR SECTION MANAGER WITH SUBSTANCES.
>> GOOD MORNING, EVERYBODY. WHERE WE LEFT OFF WAS AT THE CHCY.
WE'VE LEARNED THAT THERE'S A LOT OF PEOPLE OUT THERE STRUGGLING TO RECOVER AND REBUILD THEIR LIVES AFTER HAVING AN OPIOID DEPENDENCY OR
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CO OCCURRING SUBSTANCE ABUSE AND MENTAL HEALTH DISORDER.AND WHAT SEEMS TO BE WORK AND BE EFFECTIVE IS TO GET THEM PAIRED UP WITH A PEER NAVIGATOR, SOMEBODY WHO HAS LIVED EXPERIENCE, WHO CAN GUIDE THEM INTO THAT RECOVERY PROCESS AND HOPEFULLY HELP THEM TO STAND UP AND JUST GO ON TO A PRODUCTIVE LIFE THAT DOESN'T INCLUDE SUBSTANCE USE.
WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING IS TO HAVE ONE OF THOSE IN THE VERDE IN THE CLINIC, BUT THEN A COMMUNITY HEALTH WORKER, PEER NAVIGATOR, AND THEN ALSO ONE AT THE CONNECTION CENTER COMING OUT OF THE JAIL.
THE CONNECTION CENTER, YOU GUYS ARE ALL FAMILIAR WITH THAT.
SINCE THE JAIL HAS EXPANDED OPERATIONS, WE'VE GOTTEN REALLY BUSY OVER THERE.
WE'RE IDENTIFYING, CERTAIN NEEDS AND ISSUES THAT PEOPLE ARE COMING OUT WITH, AND SUBSTANCE ABUSE IS DEFINITELY ONE OF THOSE.
WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A PEER NAVIGATOR THERE WHO'S GOT THAT LIVED EXPERIENCE, WHO CAN HELP THOSE PEOPLE NAVIGATE TO THAT NEXT STEP, SO WE CAN HELP THEM NOT TO COME BACK TO JAIL, BASICALLY AND FIGURE OUT WHAT THEY NEED TO DO TO DO THAT.
>> IS THERE GOING TO BE A STATISTICAL ANALYSIS OF ANY OF THIS INFORMATION?
>> GOING FORWARD, DO YOU MEAN?
>> GOING FORWARD OR GOING BACK FOR THAT GOES.
>> WE'RE RELYING ON STATISTICS THAT WE CURRENTLY.
>> WE'RE GOING TO SPEND THE CITIZENS TAX MONEY, NO MATTER WHERE IT'S COMING FROM, IT IS ALL TAX MONEY.
I THINK WE AGREE TO THAT ONE WAY OR ANOTHER.
THE POINT IS IS THAT DOESN'T THE PUBLIC AT SOME POINT GET TO FIND OUT IF MONEY IS BEING SPENT WISELY, AND THAT CAN ONLY BE ACHIEVED BY HAVING SOME REPORT STATISTICALLY.
>> CORRECT. LESLIE JUST POINTED OUT THAT DATA DASHBOARD FROM MARTS AND ASSOCIATES IS GOING TO BE THAT FOR PEOPLE TO ACCESS AND TRACK THOSE.
>> WHEN WILL WE SEE IT? WILL WE SEE IT ANNUALLY OR WILL WE SEE FISCAL YEAR.
>> YOU SHOULD BE ABLE TO, WE'RE GOING TO POST THAT DASHBOARD TO OUR SITE IF IT'S APPROVED AS A PROJECT.
EACH OF THESE PROJECTS HAS TO PROVIDE US AN ANNUAL REPORT.
THEY ALREADY PROVIDED US THEIR ANNUAL REPORT, THOSE COMMUNITY PROJECTS THAT ARE THE ONES THAT YOU APPROVED LAST YEAR ARE IN THE PROCESS OF GIVING US THEIR ANNUAL REPORTS.
IN THOSE COMES THE STATISTICS OF WHAT WAS DONE WITH THE FUNDING AND TELLS US THE DELIVERABLES, BUT ALSO STATISTICS OF HOW THAT IMPACTED THE PEOPLE THAT THEY SERVE IN OUR COMMUNITIES.
OUR HOPE IS TO UTILIZE THE DATA DASHBOARD TO PLUG ALL THOSE REPORTS INTO AND ANY OTHER ADDITIONAL INFORMATION WE CAN GATHER THROUGH THE OVERDOSE FATALITY REVIEW AND OTHER THINGS GOING ON AROUND OPIOID USE IN OUR COMMUNITIES, AND BE ABLE TO HAVE A REALLY CLEAR REFLECTION OF HOW THESE FUNDS ARE BEING USED, BUT ALSO HOW THEY IMPACT OUR COMMUNITIES IN A POSITIVE WAY.
>> I JUST WANT TO RESTATE, THOUGH.
STATISTICS UNFORTUNATELY HAVE TO BE THE WAY WE HAVE TO LOOK AT THINGS.
IN THE PAST, WE HAVE NOT BEEN GOOD ABOUT REPORTING THAT INFORMATION NOR REPORTING IT TO THE PUBLIC WHICH DESERVES TO KNOW WHAT IT'S ALL ABOUT, WHETHER WE ARE SUCCESSFUL OR NOT.
>> ABSOLUTELY. THAT'S WHAT WE HOPE TO DO MUCH BETTER WITH THIS PROJECT AND HAVING A DASHBOARD THAT CAN VERY CLEARLY REFLECT THOSE THINGS AND DIRECT PEOPLE THERE TO SEE WHAT WE'VE BEEN UP TO, AND I'LL ALSO BRING THAT TO YOU AS A BOARD TO SHOW YOU HOW THESE FUNDS ARE USED.
>> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ON THAT?
>> ARE WE DONE WITH THIS CHART?
FOR THE CONNECTION CENTER, THERE'S A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT PROGRAMS AND PROJECTS THAT WE'RE GOING TO IMPLEMENT, HOPEFULLY, LIKE I SAID, A PEER NAVIGATOR BASED IN THE CONNECTION CENTER, HELP PEOPLE COMING IN OUT OF INCARCERATION.
THAT LIKE LESLIE MENTIONED, TEVA PHARMACEUTICALS IS SETTLING WITH THE STATE BY PROVIDING MASS QUANTITIES OF NARCAN RATHER THAN WAREHOUSE THIS STUFF AND STICK IT IN STORAGE ROOMS, WE WANT TO GET IT OUT TO THE PUBLIC.
WE'RE GOING TO PARTNER WITH LOCAL LAW ENFORCEMENT TO DO THAT SO THAT WHEN THEY IDENTIFY A NEED IN A SITUATION WHERE SOMEBODY MIGHT NEED NARCAN IN THE HOUSE, MAYBE NOT NEED IT THAT DAY, BUT MIGHT NEED IT AT SOME POINT.
WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A KIT THAT'S GOING TO HAVE RESOURCES, NARCAN, THAT THEY CAN THEN HAVE, AND HOPEFULLY, WE'LL CUT DOWN ON THESE OVERDOSE NUMBERS, AND.
>> HOW DO WE ADDRESS ABUSE OF THE NARCAN? SOME PEOPLE HAVE BEEN KNOWN TO GET HIGH, AND THEN THEY TAKE THE NARCAN SO THAT THEY DON'T HAVE AN ADVERSE REACTION, AND THEN THEY ARE BACK TO HEALTH AND THEY WANT TO GO AHEAD AND VIOLATE IT AGAIN.
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>> MR. BROWN, I'VE RESEARCHED INTO THAT A LITTLE BIT, AND I'VE HEARD A COUPLE OF CASES ABOUT THAT, LIKE IN ALASKA, FOR EXAMPLE, IN WASHINGTON STATE, WHERE PEOPLE ARE INTENTIONALLY GETTING HIGH AND THEN THEY HAVE A BUDDY WITH THEM NEXT TO HIM, WHO'S MARSHALL RILEY, FOR EXAMPLE, DOWN IN CAMP VERDI.
HE'S EXPERIENCED THAT IN A SMALL TOWN THAT HE WORKED IN IN ALASKA.
I'M NOT AWARE OF ANY SITUATIONS LIKE THAT IN YAVAPAI COUNTY.
>> WE WILL BE KEEPING TRACK OF WHERE THE NARCAN GOES AND HOW OFTEN IT'S BEING USED BY THE PEOPLE WE'VE GIVEN IT TO, CORRECT?
>> YES. THERE IS A DATA COLLECTION MECHANISM BUILT IN THERE.
THEN THE LAST PART OF THAT IS THE RIDE CONNECT.
30%, 40% OF THE PEOPLE COMING OUT OF THE JAIL HAVE A BASIC TRANSPORTATION NEED, MAYBE JUST GETTING AWAY FROM THE JAIL, GETTING TRANSPORTED AWAY FROM THE JAIL, OR MAKING IT TO THE NEXT COURT APPOINTMENT OR MAKING IT TO THEIR PROBATION APPOINTMENT OR TO MENTAL HEALTH SCREENING OR A MEDICAL APPOINTMENT.
WE'RE HOPING TO FILL THAT GAP A LITTLE BIT WITH A RIDE CONNECT PROGRAM WITH USING LOCAL RIDE SERVICE PROVIDERS.
HAVE YOU CONTACTED SIMPO AND WORKED WITH THEM ON THAT?
IT'S DEFINITELY A NEED TO GIVE YOU A QUICK EXAMPLE, I HAD A GENTLEMAN THE OTHER NIGHT COMING OUT OF THE JAIL, FIT THE CRITERIA WHERE FOR THIS PROGRAM WHERE HE HAD A SUBSTANCE USE DISORDER, HE HAD TO GET TO A PLACE IN OUR COUNTY 50 MILES AWAY FROM THE JAIL.
ABSOLUTELY NO WAY OF GETTING THERE.
COULDN'T REACH ANYBODY BY PHONE, HAD NO MONEY TO PAY FOR A CAB SO THAT'S AN EXAMPLE OF THESE PEOPLE WHERE WE CAN HELP THEM, MAKE THAT NEXT STEP, BRIDGE WHAT COULD BE AN INSURMOUNTABLE PROBLEM FOR THEM RIGHT AT THAT POINT IN THEIR LIFE, BRIDGE THAT GAP FOR THEM, SO THEY GET ONTO THAT NEXT THING, AND THEN HOPEFULLY GO ONTO A MORE SUCCESSFUL EXPERIENCE AFTER BEING INCARCERATED.
THEN THE LAST PART IS THE MEDICAL EXAMINER'S OFFICE HAS REQUESTED AN ABILITY TO TEST FOR NEW DRUGS THAT ARE OUT THERE OR DIFFERENT STRAINS OF FENTANYL.
THE CURRENT DRUG TESTING THAT THEY HAVE, ROUGHLY SPEAKING, IT'S ABOUT $200 TO DO A COMPREHENSIVE DRUG SCREEN.
BUT THERE'S A MORE COMPREHENSIVE ONE THAT'S AVAILABLE THAT'S $300.
THIS FUNDING WILL GIVE THEM THE ABILITY TO WHEN A POLICE DEPARTMENT OR SOMEBODY ASKS FOR A MORE COMPREHENSIVE DRUG SCREEN, SO WE CAN IDENTIFY ANY NEW STUFF THAT'S OUT THERE.
THEY'LL HAVE THE ABILITY TO DO THAT AND OFFER THAT MORE ADVANCED TESTING.
>> I THINK A LOT OF THIS STUFF THAT YOU'RE PRESENTING TODAY IS US BEING PROACTIVE WHEN PEOPLE ARE GETTING OUT FROM BEING IN JAIL FOR WRAPPING AROUND SERVICES JUST TO ENSURE THEY'RE NOT GOING TO RE OFFEND.
WE'RE GIVING THEM OPPORTUNITIES TO ADDRESS THE SUBSTANCE ABUSE.
WE'RE ALSO AND I CAN TELL YOU FROM EXPERIENCE, AND I KNOW THAT YOU, MR. TOMAN HAVE THE SAME EXPERIENCE IS NARCAN SAVES A LOT OF LIVES IN YAVAPAI COUNTY.
IT'S VERY IMPORTANT FOR US TO GET IT TO WHERE IT'S ACCESSIBLE TO EVERYBODY IN THE COUNTY WHEN THEY NEED IT.
I THINK ALL THE STUFF THAT WE'RE DOING, IT'S ON THE FOREFRONT, AND THAT'S JUST THE STEPS THAT WE'RE TAKING WITH YAVAPAI COUNTY, WHICH I THINK IT MAKES US ONE OF THE LEADERS IN THE STATE. KUDOS TO YOU GUYS.
>> ONE OF THE PLACES THAT MIGHT BE STARTED AND IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING, I KNOW I CARRY NARCAN IN MY COUNTY CAR, THAT IT SHOULD BE IN ALL COUNTY VEHICLES AND AVAILABLE, EVERYBODY IN THE COUNTY SHOULD KNOW HOW TO USE.
>> I AGREE WITH THAT, MR. CHAIRMAN, I THINK IT'S INCUMBENT UPON US IF WE'RE APPROVING HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS AND UP THERE IT GOES AGAIN.
MILLIONS OF DOLLARS THAT MAKE SURE WE KNOW EXACTLY WHEN THE RUBBER MEETS THE ROAD, WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE? HOW IT WORKS [INAUDIBLE] BUT IF WE EVER NEED TO, I WILL CERTAINLY WANT THE SKILL SET TO BE ABLE TO USE IT [INAUDIBLE] AND THE PRODUCT THAT WE ARE DISCUSSING.
>> JOE, I GOT A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS.
IF WE CAN GO BACK TO THE OTHER SLIDE FOR A MINUTE.
>> THEY HAVE A COMPONENT OF THEIR SERVICES THAT THEY PROVIDE OVER IN THE VERDE VALLEY, WHERE THEY HELP PEOPLE GET IN RECOVERY PROVIDE THEM WITH HELPING WITH A SOBER LIVING SITUATION, SO IT'S JUST PUTTING MONEY TOWARDS THAT.
>> PUTS THEM IN A SOBER LIVING HOME?
>> OKAY. GO BACK TO THE OTHER ONE IF YOU DON'T MIND.
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I'VE ALWAYS BEEN TOLD IF YOU CAN'T MAJOR, YOU CAN'T EFFECTIVELY MANAGE IT.YOU TALK ABOUT A DASHBOARD, WHICH TELLS YOU WHERE YOU'RE SPENDING THE MONEY AND HOW YOU'RE SPENDING THE MONEY.
BUT AGAIN, I AGREE WITH THE CHAIR, I'M NOT CERTAIN THAT WE'RE GETTING THE INFORMATION WE NEED TO KNOW THAT THE FUNDS ARE BEING UTILIZED EFFECTIVELY AND MAKING A DIFFERENCE.
I'M JUST WONDERING IF THE DASHBOARD IS GOING TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT FOR US.
>> AS I MENTIONED, GOOD QUESTION.
I REALLY DO WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THE DASHBOARD IS A PART OF THAT, BEING ABLE TO EXPOSE THE DATA IN A WAY THAT PEOPLE CAN UNDERSTAND IT.
WE'RE CURRENTLY JUST NOW STARTING TO GATHER THOSE FIRST YEAR REPORTS ON WHAT'S BEEN DONE WITH THESE DOLLARS.
I THINK OVER TIME, WE'RE GOING TO BE ABLE TO SEE THE DATA BASED IN THE OVERDOSE FATALITY REVIEW BOARD.
OTHER PROJECTS THAT ARE DONE, HOSPITAL INTAKE AND NUMBERS OF OVERDOSE AND OTHER THINGS, LAW ENFORCEMENT REPORTS OF OVERDOSE AND NARCAN DISTRIBUTION.
THOSE THINGS THAT WILL BE REPORTED TO US, THAT WE CAN DEFINITELY SEE NUMBERS STATS AND THINGS THAT SHOW AN IMPACT.
RIGHT NOW, IN THIS POINT IN TIME, WE'VE HAD THE FUNDS FOR JUST OVER A YEAR AND WE ARE JUST STARTING TO GATHER THOSE YEAR ONE REPORTS, AS WELL AS JAMES AND OUR TEAM ARE WORKING ON REPORTS OF THEIR OWN FROM FUNDS THAT WE'VE BEEN USING INTERNALLY THAT IT WAS APPROVED LAST YEAR.
AS WE START TO GATHER THESE NUMBERS, SOME OF THESE CONTINUING PROJECTS, TOO, WILL HAVE MULTI YEAR REPORTING ON WHAT THEY'RE DOING AND HOW THAT IMPACTS.
OUR HOPE WE'RE GOING TO BE GATHERING A LOT OF DIFFERENT TYPES OF INFORMATION THAT'S WHERE THE DASHBOARD HELPS TO CONSOLIDATE IT, MAKE IT MORE VISIBLY CLEAR.
BUT AT THE SAME TIME, WE HOPE TO BE ABLE TO SHOW MARKET IMPACTS OF HOW WE'RE UTILIZING THESE FUNDS USING STATISTICS.
BUT WE'RE RIGHT NOW JUST STARTING TO COLLECT THAT INFORMATION FROM THE PARTNERS AND EVEN INTERNALLY.
>> WELL, I WOULD ASSUME THAT IF WE'RE BEING EFFECTIVE AND WE'RE MAKING A DIFFERENCE WITH THESE PROGRAMS, THEN YOU WOULD SEE PEOPLE NOT NEEDING THE AMOUNT OF MONEY THAT THEY NEEDED YEAR BEFORE OR SEVERAL YEARS BEFORE.
IN OTHER WORDS, THERE'S NOT THE NEED OUT THERE THAT THERE USED TO BE.
THAT'S WHAT I'M LOOKING FOR IS, ARE WE GOING TO BE ABLE TO SEE THAT AND MEASURE THAT AT SOME POINT?
THE CHALLENGE IN TERMS OF THE RESEARCH END OF IT IS THAT YOUR SAMPLE SIZE, YOUR SUBJECT POPULATION CONTINUALLY EVOLVES, SO FOR THAT POPULATION, I WOULD HOPE WE COULD CAPTURE RECIDIVISM RATES.
THAT WOULD BE VERY TELLING ABOUT NOT ONLY SAVING THEIR LIVES, BUT THEN DID THEY GO ON TO THAT TRANSITIONAL HOUSING, FOR EXAMPLE, THAT STEPS TO RECOVERY HAS TO LEARN WORK FOR SKILLS AND MOVE INTO A PRODUCTIVE MEMBER OF THE COMMUNITY, IF YOU WILL.
THAT PART IS ABSOLUTELY AVAILABLE RIGHT NOW AS WE EVOLVE, BUT THE OTHER IS A LITTLE TRICKIER.
>> IT IS. THANK YOU, SUPERVISOR OBERG FOR THAT QUESTION AND COMMENT BECAUSE WITH ALL OF OUR PUBLIC HEALTH WORK, WE HOPE EVENTUALLY TO WORK OUR WAY OUT OF BUSINESS, THAT IS.
THE WORK THAT WE DO IS TO PREVENT NEGATIVE OUTCOMES FOR PEOPLE, IS TO HELP THEM BE HEALTHIER, HELP THEM BE MORE RESILIENT, HELP THEM STAY OUT OF THE JUSTICE SYSTEM AND THAT WORK HAS EVOLVED OVER TIME.
SADLY, SOMETIMES WE DON'T SEE A REDUCTION IN OUR TARGET POPULATION FOR THESE THINGS.
THE SUBSTANCE ABUSE IS A TERRIBLE THING.
IT DOES HAVE DRAMATIC IMPACTS AND SAD IMPACTS ON OUR COMMUNITY.
BUT WE'RE WORKING IN SO MANY WAYS AND THE FUNDING GOES OUT TO PARTNER AGENCIES BECAUSE AS A HEALTH DEPARTMENT, WE ARE VERY LIMITED IN WHAT WE CAN PERSONALLY DO TO MAKE AN IMPACT.
WE MAKE A HUGE IMPACT, AND I LOVE THE WORK THAT WE DO WE HAVE A GREAT TEAM WHO'S PASSIONATE ABOUT THIS WORK.
BUT IT TAKES A VILLAGE, IT TAKES THE WHOLE COMMUNITY WORKING TOGETHER.
IT TAKES MATT FORCE AND OUR SCHOOLS AND OUR JUSTICE SYSTEM, AND OUR LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICIALS WHEN THEY'RE OUT ON THE STREETS, HELPING US TO REACH OUR TARGET POPULATION AND MAKE THAT IMPACT.
WE'RE RELYING ON A LOT OF PEOPLE TO UTILIZE THESE FUNDS WELL.
I HOPE OVER THE COURSE OF THE 18 YEARS, WE SEE A DISTINCT EVOLUTION OF HOW THESE PROGRAMS ARE RUN AND WHAT IS NEEDED IN OUR COMMUNITY, AND I HOPE THAT WE SEE MARKED RESULTS AND IMPROVEMENT OF OPIOID ABUSE IN OUR COMMUNITIES.
LIKE I SAID, WE'RE GOING TO KEEP ON WORKING ON HAVING DATA THAT SHOWS YOU HOW THESE FUNDS ARE USED, AS WELL AS HOW THEY IMPACT.
>> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? NO. DO I HAVE A MOTION?
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>> THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR SUPPORT AND YOUR TIME AND ATTENTION TO THIS.
>> WE'LL BE LOOKING FOR THAT REPORT.
>> PUBLIC WORKS, APPROVED RESOLUTION 21 31,
[4. Public Works - Approve Resolution No. 2131 imposing an Order for a Fireworks Prohibition and Stage 1 Fire Restrictions, effective at 0800 on June 6, 2024, across all of Yavapai County's fire zones, in accordance with Yavapai County Ordinance 2020-2, Section VII and A.R.S.§11-251(63). (All Districts)]
IMPOSING AN ORDER FOR A FIREWORKS PROHIBITATION, AND STAGE ONE FIRE RESTRICTIONS EFFECTS IN 0800.JUNE 6, THAT CROSSED ALL OF THE YAVAPAI COUNTY'S FIRE ZONES.
IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE YAVAPAI COUNTY ORDINANCE 20-2, SECTION SEVEN AND ARS 1125-163.
>> GOOD MORNING. UP BEFORE YOU AGAIN, CHAIRMAN BROWN, VICE CHAIR, MICHAELS, MEMBERS OF THE BOARD, ROGER MCCORMICK, ASSISTANT DIRECTOR FOR PUBLIC WORKS.
YES, SO WE ARE BRINGING BEFORE YOU TODAY FOR ACTION, THE IMPOSING THE FIRE RESTRICTION IN RELATION TO YAVAPAI COUNTY.
THAT'S ALL ZONES WITHIN YAVAPAI COUNTY, WHICH INCLUDES THE NORTHERN, THE CENTRAL, THE EASTERN AND THE SOUTHERN ZONES.
THIS DECISION WAS MADE, AND PARTNERSHIP, AS WE'VE ACTUALLY HEARD EARLIER, BLM HAS BEEN IN ON THE DISCUSSIONS.
PRESCOTT NATIONAL FOREST, TONTO NATIONAL FOREST, DEPARTMENT OF FOREST AND FIRE MANAGEMENT.
THEY'VE ALL BEEN INVOLVED IN THIS DISCUSSION, AND THE DECISION WAS MADE AS PARTNERS TO GO FORWARD WITH THE STAGE 1 FIRE RESTRICTIONS, AND IT ALSO INCLUDES FIREWORKS PROHIBITION AS PART OF THIS ORDER.
THAT, AS YOU SAID, WILL GO INTO EFFECT TOMORROW, JUNE 6, AT 08:00 HOURS, AND WE'LL REMAIN IN EFFECT UNTIL THE RISK IS NOT AS MUCH AS IT IS RIGHT NOW.
WE HAVE, AS A PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT, HAVE ABOUT 65 LOCATIONS THROUGHOUT THE COUNTY THAT WE ARE PUTTING UP SIGNAGE TO NOTIFY THE PUBLIC.
SIX OF THOSE LOCATIONS ARE LOCATED ON STATE HIGHWAYS, WHERE WE'VE WORKED WITH ADOT TO OBTAIN PERMITS TO PUT UP ELECTRONIC MESSAGE BOARDS FOR THE MAIN ENTRY AREAS INTO YAVAPAI COUNTY.
THE REMAINING 59 ARE SMALLER TYPE SIGNS THAT GO AROUND TO THE INDIVIDUAL COMMUNITIES THROUGHOUT THE COUNTY.
WE'RE GETTING A JUMP ON THAT TODAY IN PREPARATION FOR THE IMPLEMENTATION OF THE BAN TOMORROW IF YOU GUYS VOTE TO APPROVE IT. ANY QUESTIONS?
>> IF I COULD ASK A QUESTION, MR. CHAIRMAN, I HAD AN INTERESTING COMMENT A COUPLE OF DAYS AGO BY A MAYOR IN MY DISTRICT THAT THERE WAS NOT SURE WHAT THE COORDINATION OR PLAN OR ANY OF THAT WAS.
HOW IS THE INFORMATION DISTRIBUTED TO OUR COMMUNITY LEADERS? I WAS SURPRISED THAT HE DIDN'T KNOW IT.
>> THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION, AND ACTUALLY, I THINK I'LL PROBABLY BRING UP ASHLEY.
SHE'S OUR EMERGENCY MANAGER FOR YAVAPAI COUNTY AND HAS THOSE CONVERSATIONS, AND I THINK CAN PROBABLY SPEAK TO THAT.
>> THANK YOU. JUST WHAT I WAS HOPING FOR. THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
>> GOOD MORNING, CHAIRMAN, VICE CHAIR, SUPERVISORS, ASHLEY ALCO'S EMERGENCY MANAGER, AS MENTIONED.
ARE YOU REFERRING TO THE RESTRICTIONS OR OUR OVERALL EMERGENCY PLANS?
>> WELL THEY'RE INEXTRICABLY INTERTWINED.
THE RESTRICTIONS GO WITH THE POTENTIAL FOR EVACUATION AND AN EMERGENCY PLAN.
IT SEEMS TO ME THEY WOULD BE COORDINATED IN SOME FASHION AS DISTRIBUTION TO THOSE WHO SHOULD KNOW.
>> CORRECT. WE DO COORDINATE WITH ALL OF OUR PARTNERS AT THE LOCAL LEVELS, THE COUNTY EMERGENCY OPERATION PLAN, WE HAVE DISCUSSIONS ABOUT RESTRICTIONS.
WE COORDINATE WITH THE CENTRAL WEST ZONE, ETC.
WHEN WE START THESE CONVERSATIONS ABOUT RESTRICTIONS, WE SEND THEM TO OUR LOCAL PARTNERS SAYING, THIS IS WHAT WE'RE LOOKING TO DO AT WHAT TIME AND SUCH.
WE TYPICALLY COORDINATE WITH OUR PUBLIC SAFETY PARTNERS, AND OUR LOCAL EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT CONTACTS, AND WE LEAVE IT UP TO THEM TO COMMUNICATE THAT WITH THEIR ELECTED OFFICIALS AT THE LOCAL LEVEL.
IN THAT PARTICULAR SITUATION, I BELIEVE HE WAS JUST REFERRING THE CITIZEN TO GET THAT INFORMATION DIRECTLY FROM US RATHER THAN SPEAKING ON OUR BEHALF.
BUT WE DO COMMUNICATE FREQUENTLY WITH THEM.
WITH THE CITY OF SEDONA, ESPECIALLY, WE WORKED WITH THEM FOR THEIR EVACUATION AND RE-ENTRY PLAN.
THEY WORKED WITH US EXTENSIVELY FOR THE REVISION OF THEIR LOCAL EMERGENCY OPERATIONS PLAN.
IT ACTUALLY REFLECTS OUR COUNTY EMERGENCY OPERATIONS PLAN QUITE SIGNIFICANTLY, WHICH IS EXACTLY WHAT THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO DO.
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WE WORKED WITH THEM FOR THEIR TABLETOP.ACTUALLY A COUPLE OF MONTHS AGO, WE PUT THAT ON FOR THEM.
THERE'S A LOT OF CORONATION THAT GOES.
>> YOU KNOW I'M ABSOLUTELY AWARE OF THAT, ASHLEY.
IT WAS ALL THE MORE CONFOUNDING TO REALIZE THAT PERHAPS AN ELECTED OFFICIAL DID NOT KNOW THAT THERE WAS ANY COORDINATION BETWEEN ONE COMMUNITY, FOR EXAMPLE, AND ANOTHER LIKE THE VILLAGE OF OAK CREEK.
THAT RAISES A LOT OF COMMUNITY FATE FEAR.
OUR JOB AS ELECTED OFFICIALS, OF COURSE, IS TO PREVENT THAT.
INFORMATION AND EDUCATION IS THE WAY, AND I KNOW PEOPLE ARE BEGINNING TO GET ANXIOUS ABOUT ALL OF THIS.
I VERY MUCH APPRECIATE ONE, YOUR QUICK RESPONSE.
CERTAINLY, NO ONE SHOULD HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT HOW WELL THIS COUNTY COORDINATES THESE EFFORTS, AND I APPRECIATE YOUR HANDS-ON APPROACH TO EDUCATING THE PUBLIC ABOUT IT. THANK YOU.
>> I AGREE WITH SUPERVISOR MICHAELS, THAT COORDINATION IN THIS IS ONE OF THE THINGS WE'VE STRIVED FOR AT LEAST THE LAST TEN YEARS THAT I'M AWARE OF, JUST SO THAT EVERYBODY KNOWS WHO'S ON FIRST IN THESE TYPES OF SITUATIONS.
PROBLEM IS THAT WE HAVE CITIES AND TOWNS WITH FIRE DEPARTMENTS, AND WE HAVE CITIES AND TOWNS WITHOUT FIRE DEPARTMENTS.
THEN WE HAVE AREAS WITHOUT FIRE DEPARTMENTS, BUT HAVE DISTRICTS, BUT THEN WE HAVE DISTRICTS THAT ARE INEFFECTIVE BECAUSE THEY DON'T REALLY COVER MUCH SPACE, AND THAT'S WHERE THE COUNTY COMES IN AND WE WORK WITH FOREST SERVICE AND BLM, AND ALL OF THOSE OTHER AGENCIES THAT I'VE JUST MENTIONED, LIKE CAFMA AND THE CITY IN TOWN FIRE DEPARTMENTS TO HAVE A JOINT RESPONSE, AND USUALLY WE ARE COORDINATED TO THE POINT THROUGH YOUR OFFICE TO BASICALLY COME FORWARD AND ANNOUNCE, FIRE RESTRICTIONS IN A TIMELY MANNER, SO NOBODY'S CONFUSED OVER WHAT'S GOING ON.
BECAUSE WE HAVE BEEN IN DIFFERENT STAGES BEFORE IN ONE LOCATION AND NOT IN ANOTHER, AND IT'S CAUSED CONFUSION WITH THE PUBLIC.
BUT ARE WE SENDING OUT ANYTHING IN REGARDS TO NOTIFICATION JUST TO THE GENERAL CITIZENRY IN REGARDS TO BEING CAREFUL ABOUT THIS YEAR BECAUSE IT'S SHAPING UP TO BE A LOT WORSE THAN WHAT WE THOUGHT IT WAS GOING TO BE?
>> RIGHT AFTER THE PRESCOTT NATIONAL FOREST SENT OUT THEIR PRESS RELEASE REGARDING THE STAGE 1 RESTRICTIONS, YAVAPAI COUNTY ALSO ISSUED THEIR PRESS RELEASE THAT WE PUT ON BLAST AS WELL.
IT'S GOING OUT ON SOCIAL MEDIA.
WE'RE PUTTING OUT PUBLIC EDUCATION ON IT.
WE'RE ALSO MAKING SURE THAT WE'RE SHARING THE INFORMATION FROM THE DEPARTMENT OF FORESTRY AND FIRE MANAGEMENT AND BLM, AS WELL.
THE OTHER NATIONAL FOREST, AS THEY PUT THEIR INFORMATION OUT, SO, COCONINO NATIONAL FOREST THEY'RE GOING INTO RESTRICTIONS AS WELL.
CITY OF PRESCOTT AND CAFMA IS GOING INTO RESTRICTIONS.
WE'RE SHARING ALL THAT INFORMATION, ALL OF US TOGETHER TO MAKE SURE WE'RE SKATING THAT INFORMATION AS FAR AND WIDE AS POSSIBLE AND GETTING THAT OUT TO THE COMMUNITY AND JUST MAKING SURE THAT WE'RE EDUCATING AS BEST POSSIBLE. OKAY.
>> ONE THING I'LL SAY, CHAIRMAN, IS WE HAVE OUR WILL COMMITTEES, IN VARIOUS COMMUNITIES, AND THEY CAN ALSO PUT THAT OUT TO THEIR COMMUNITY, PUT IT IN ON BULLETIN BOARDS.
I KNOW DOUBT IN MY DISTRICT, WE HAVE THE YELLOW SHEET OUT OF THE RNL, THAT GOES TO MANY OF THE SURROUNDING COMMUNITIES, AND WE'LL HAVE THAT RESTRICTION OR THIS RESOLUTION IN THERE FOR THEM TO READ.
I THINK THERE'S A LOT OF OPPORTUNITIES, BUT THE THING I'M WORRIED ABOUT IS, EVEN THOUGH WE PUT OUT A YAVAPAI PRESS RELEASE, I'M NOT SURE HOW WIDELY THAT GETS DISTRIBUTED.
I KNOW IT GETS PUT INTO THE COURIER AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE, BUT I'M NOT CERTAIN THAT IT REALLY GETS OUT TO SOMEPLACE LIKE YARNELL OR HILLSIDE OR, CONGRESS.
>> ABOUT FIVE OR SIX, MAYBE EIGHT YEARS AGO, WE HAD WORKED WITH PUBLIC WORKS TO START PUTTING POSTING OF SIGNS AND ENTRIES AND AREAS COMING INTO YAVAPAI COUNTY SPECIFICALLY.
I WORKED WITH ADO AND GOT THEIR COOPERATION, AND YOU'LL SEE LIT SIGNS IN A LOT OF DIFFERENT ROADS AND AREAS IN AND AROUND THE COUNTY.
RIGHT HERE, I'VE GOT A LIST OF, ALL THE DIFFERENT COMMUNITIES THROUGHOUT THE COUNTY THAT WE PUT SIGNS IN.
WE TRY TO GET THEM, IN LOCATIONS WHERE THERE'S HIGH TRAFFIC AND THAT PEOPLE ARE GOING TO SEE THEM.
NOT ONLY DO WE DO THE ELECTRONIC MESSAGE BOARDS ON THE STATE HIGHWAYS, WHERE A LOT OF PEOPLE GO BY, PEOPLE THAT MAY BE VISITING YAVAPAI COUNTY THAT ARE COMING UP TO RECREATE WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY'RE SEEING THOSE ON THE STATE HIGHWAYS AS THEY COME INTO OUR COUNTY, BUT ALSO WITHIN THE COMMUNITIES THEMSELVES, WE HAVE SIGNS THAT WE PUT UP ON FLAT PANELS TO BE ABLE TO NOTIFY THE COMMUNITY DIRECTLY.
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IF THERE'S ANY LOCATIONS THAT WE HEAR OF THAT NEED AN ADDITIONAL SIGN OR WHATEVER, WE HAVE THE CAPABILITY OF PRODUCING MORE SIGNS, AND WE CAN ADD THOSE AS NEEDED IF THERE'S A REQUEST FOR ADDITIONAL SIGNS. WE CAN DO THAT.>> WELL, I'LL SAY IN THE RURAL AREAS, DEFINITELY LOOK AT THE POST OFFICE.
JUST ABOUT EVERYBODY GOES TO THE POST OFFICE, AND THEY HAVE BOLTING BOARDS, SO THAT'S A GREAT PLACE TO PUT IT.
>> THE OTHER ONE WOULD BE AS I-17, REALLY, FOR THE FOLKS COMING UP TO VISIT US.
WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT A DOT HAS POSTED ADEQUATELY, EVEN THOUGH THEY'RE IN A CONSTRUCTION AREA.
>> DOWN THERE BY ANTHEM, PREFERABLY. THEY DON'T.
>> RUGER, I THINK I MENTIONED THE COUNTY MANAGER, AND I THINK YOU GUYS ARE DOING RESEARCH WITH BRANDON ON THIS.
BUT WE NEED DIGITAL BOARDS IN EACH ONE OF OUR UNINCORPORATED AREAS WHERE WHEN WE NEED TO GET FIRE INFORMATION, MEDICAL INFORMATION.
ANY INFORMATION THAT WE CAN COMMUNICATE TO THE COMMUNITIES WOULD BE IMPORTANT AND I THINK IT WOULD BE NICE TO HAVE IT IN ALL OUR UNINCORPORATED AREAS, AND THEN JUST TO HAVE THE DISTRICTS HANDLE THAT AND GET THAT INFORMATION OUT IN COORDINATION WITH EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT, AND WHATNOT.
I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING IMPORTANT THAT WE REALLY NEED TO LOOK INTO.
>> CAN I ADD SOMETHING REAL QUICK? OUR OFFICE PARTICIPATES IN THE COORDINATION MEETINGS, IT'S CALLED THE CENTRAL WEST ZONE, AND SO THAT'S COMPOSED MARICOPA, YAVAPAI AND MAHAB COUNTIES, AND IT INCLUDES PRESCOTT NATIONAL FOREST, DFFM, AND BLM, GAME AND FISH AND SUCH.
ONE OF THE THINGS ACTUALLY THAT THE FOREST SERVICE DID WAS THEY BROUGHT IN A GROUP OF PIOS THAT IS SPECIFIC TO FIRE EDUCATION.
RIGHT NOW THEY'RE IN OUR REGION, AND THEY'RE DOING THIS PUBLIC EDUCATION TOUR AND THEY WERE IN YARNELL RECENTLY.
WE'RE ACTUALLY GETTING DAILY BRIEFING AS TO WHAT THEY'RE DOING.
THEY'RE UP IN PRESCOTT THE OTHER DAY.
THEY'RE JUST GOING AROUND THOSE THREE COUNTIES, GETTING OUT THERE, TALKING TO CITIZENS, TALKING ABOUT FIRE EDUCATION, HOW TO, NOT BURN THINGS DOWN, REALLY.
THEY ARE IN OUR REGION, AND SO THAT IS SOMETHING THAT IS OCCURRING JUST SO YOU GUYS ARE AWARE.
>> DO YOU ENCOURAGE THEM TO GET INTO OUR COMMUNITIES IN THE ENTIRE COUNTY? I THINK IT WOULD BE WONDERFUL.
THIS IS THE TIME FOR THEM TO COME AND TALK.
OUR DEMOGRAPHIC ON THAT OTHER SIDE IS A BIT OLDER AND THEY LIVE IN, A LOT OF THINGS ABOUT HOW TO GET OUT OF COMMUNITIES THAT HAVE ONE WAY IN, ONE WAY OUT, AND THAT SORT OF THING.
PREVENTION, OF COURSE, IS THE KEY, IF AT ALL POSSIBLE, AND I THINK IT DOES BY ENGAGING THEM LOWER, I HATE TO SAY THIS TEMPERATURE AND GETS PEOPLE MORE ENGAGED IN THEIR PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY.
>> THANK YOU. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? THANK YOU, ASHLEY.
THANK YOU, ROGER. WITH THAT, I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO GO INTO PROHIBITION IN STAGE 1 FIRE RESTRICTIONS FOR YAVAPAI COUNTY.
>> ARNOLD STREET LIGHTING IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT.
[5. Yarnell Street Lighting Improvement District - The Board of Supervisors will resolve into the Board of Directors of Yarnell Street Lighting Improvement District and following consideration of this item, will reconvene as the Board of Supervisors - Approve request from Frankie Lindley for annexation of APN 203-01-003 into the Yarnell Street Lighting Improvement District. (District 1 - Supervisor Oberg)]
THE BOARD WILL RESOLVE IT TO THE BOARD DIRECTOR OF YARNELL STREET LIGHTING IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT IN THE FOLLOWING CONDITION.CONSIDERATION OF THIS AND IT WILL RECONVENE AS THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS, APPROVAL REQUEST FROM FRANKIE LINDLEY FOR ANNEXATION OF APN 203-01-003 INTO THE YARNELL STREET LIGHTING DISTRICT.
>> YES. CHAIRMAN, I'LL GO AHEAD AND MAKE THE MOTION TO ACCEPT THIS REQUEST.
>> I CAN PROVIDE ANY INFORMATION AFTERWARDS IF NEEDED.
>> SECONDED BY SUPERVISOR MICHAELS. ALL IN FAVOR?
>> WE'RE GOING TO TAKE ABOUT FIVE MINUTE BREAK, COME BACK AT 11 O'CLOCK.
LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, WE'RE BACK IN SESSION AND MR. ROBERT.
>> WELL, WE STILL GOT A FORUM.
>> WE HAVE A QUORUM, SO WE'LL GO AHEAD AND PROCEED.
HEARING NUMBER 1, ADOPT YAVAPAI COUNTY ORDINANCE 2024-1,
[1. Board of Supervisors - Adopt Yavapai County Ordinance 2024-1, which will repeal and replace Yavapai County Animal Control Ordinance 2000-3, with an effective date of July 5, 2024. (All Districts) ]
WHICH WILL REPEAL AND REPLACE YAVAPAI COUNTY ANIMAL CONTROL ORDINANCE, 2000-3 WITH AN EFFECTIVE DATE OF JULY 5TH,[01:40:04]
2024, AND AFFECTS ALL DISTRICT.WHO'S MAKING THE PRESENTATION ON THIS, MADAM CLERK?
>> THIS WOULD HAVE BEEN YOUR COUNCIL, MR. BRENNAN.
>> I WOULD BE HAPPY TO FIND OUT.
HOWEVER, IN THE MEANTIME, WE HAVE A PUBLIC ANNOUNCEMENT FROM THE SHERIFF IN REGARDS TO AN ISSUE IN THE PARKING LOT.
>> UNLESS SOMEBODY STOLE MY CAR AND BROUGHT IT HERE, IT SOUNDS VERY CLOSE TO MINE.
>> IT QUALIFIES THE WAY IT SOUNDED TO ME.
>> BACK TO THE DOG LICENSE REPEAL.
SOMEBODY TO YELL AT MR. BRENNAN OUT THERE, JAMIE.
>> I HEARD IT'S AT NINE MINUTES 30 SECONDS.
>> THIS IS THE ANIMAL CONTROL ORDINANCE WE'RE AT.
>> GOOD MORNING, CHAIRMAN, VICE CHAIR, MEMBERS OF THE BOARD, MARTIN BRENNAN, ASSISTANT COUNTY MANAGER AND BOARD COUNCIL.
HERE TODAY FOR A HEARING ON A POSSIBLE AMENDMENT TO THE COUNTY'S ANIMAL CONTROL ORDINANCE.
THAT ORDINANCE REGULATES UNINCORPORATED AREAS OF YAVAPAI COUNTY, AND IT REGULATES BASICALLY THREE ACTIVITIES RELATED TO DOGS, REGULATES DOGS AT LARGE, DOGS THAT BITE REPEATEDLY AND DOGS THAT ENGAGE IN EXCESSIVE BARKING.
>> THAT ORDINANCE HAS BEEN IN PLACE FOR 24 YEARS.
IT'S DONE A FINE JOB OF REGULATING THE FIRST TWO CATEGORIES, BUT IN TERMS OF LIMITING EXCESSIVE BARKING, WE RECEIVED COMPLAINTS ABOUT DOGS THAT BARK EXCESSIVELY.
BUT BECAUSE OF THE DEFINITION CONTAINED IN OUR CURRENT ORDINANCE, THERE'S NOTHING LAW ENFORCEMENT CAN DO ABOUT IT.
THE DEFINITION IS SO VAGUE THAT IT REALLY DOESN'T ALLOW FOR ENFORCEMENT.
WHAT'S BEFORE YOU TODAY IS A PROPOSED AMENDMENT TO THE DEFINITION OF EXCESSIVE BARKING.
I WORKED WITH LAW ENFORCEMENT AND THEY PROPOSED THE WORDING FOR THAT AMENDMENT.
IT WOULD DEFINE EXCESSIVE BARKING AS 10 MINUTES CONSECUTIVELY OR 30 MINUTES COLLECTIVELY WITHIN A THREE-HOUR PERIOD.
I'M TOLD THAT WILL PROVIDE A SET STANDARD THAT LAW ENFORCEMENT CAN ACTUALLY GO OUT AND HOLD PEOPLE TO.
THE OTHER THING THAT'S PROPOSED IS, A FIRST VIOLATION OF THE ORDINANCE IS CURRENTLY TREATED AS A MISDEMEANOR VIOLATION, WHICH SEEMS A LITTLE SEVERE FOR THIS TYPE OF INFRACTION.
WE'RE PROPOSING THAT A FIRST OFFENSE WOULD BE REDUCED FROM A MISDEMEANOR TO A FINE.
AGAIN, THERE ARE TWO PROPOSED AMENDMENTS TO THE ORDINANCE.
ONE IS TO CHANGE THE DEFINITION OF EXCESSIVE BARKING SO THAT THE ORDINANCE CAN ACTUALLY BE ENFORCED AND THE SECOND IS TO REDUCE THE PENALTY FOR A FIRST OFFENSE FOR A DOG THAT BARKS EXCESSIVELY TO A FINE.
I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
WE HAVE ANOTHER ONE IN WHAT? SIXTY DAYS, 90 DAYS, 30 DAYS?
>> ON THIS TYPE OF ORDINANCE AMENDMENT, ONLY ONE HEARING IS REQUIRED.
WE'RE ALSO REQUIRED TO PUBLISH NOTICE OF THE HEARING AND THE PROPOSED ACTION TO BE TAKEN BY THE BOARD AT LEAST 15 DAYS IN ADVANCE OF THE HEARING.
THAT WAS DONE, BOTH IN THE COURIER AND THE VERTI INDEPENDENT IN ADVANCE OF THE HEARING TODAY.
>> MR. CHAIRMAN, WITH THAT INFORMATION IN MIND, AND KNOWING THAT WE AS A COUNTY ARE GROWING, AND THE DENSITY, DESPITE ALL OF OUR EFFORTS IN RULE ARIZONA ARE INCREASING, AND THERE'S JUST NOT ENOUGH SPACE.
WHAT THAT MEANS IS THAT WE HAVE TO LEARN HOW TO BE BETTER NEIGHBORS AND WITHOUT THE ABILITY TO ENFORCE,
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WE HAVE NO WAY TO MAKE THAT HAPPEN.I WOULD MAKE A MOTION, IF YOU WOULD ENTERTAIN IT, TO APPROVE THIS CHANGE AS STATED.
>> SECONDED BY MR. OBERG. ALL IN FAVOR?
>> BOARD OF SUPERVISORS, A HEARING TO CONSIDER AN INCREASE IN
[2. Board of Supervisors - Hearing to consider an increase in the County’s 1979-80 Base Expenditure Limit pursuant to article IX, section 20, Constitution of Arizona.]
THE COUNTY'S 1979-80 BASE EXPENDITURE LIMIT PURSUANT TO ARTICLE 9, SECTION 20 OF THE CONSTITUTION OF ARIZONA. MAURI.>> GOOD MORNING, AGAIN, CHAIRMAN, VICE CHAIR, MEMBERS OF THE BOARD, MAURI THOMPSON, COUNTY MANAGER.
THIS IS A HEARING TO CONSIDER AN INCREASE IN YAVAPAI COUNTY'S 1979-80 BASE EXPENDITURE LIMIT PURSUANT TO ARTICLE 9, SECTION 20, THE CONSTITUTION OF ARIZONA, AS THE CHAIRMAN JUST INDICATED.
THE COUNTY'S EXPENDITURE LIMIT IS THE AMOUNT OF LOCAL REVENUES THAT A COUNTY CAN SPEND IN ANY GIVEN YEAR.
EXPENDITURE LIMITS ARE CALCULATED USING FISCAL YEAR 1980 LOCAL REVENUES SPENT AS YOUR BASE LIMIT.
THAT BASE LIMIT IS THEN ADJUSTED ANNUALLY BY AN AMOUNT DETERMINED BY THE STATE OF ARIZONA, PRECISELY THE ECONOMIC ESTIMATES COMMISSION.
COUNTIES CAN INCREASE THEIR BASE EXPENDITURE LIMIT WITH A TWO-THIRDS VOTE OF THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS AND APPROVAL OF A MAJORITY OF VOTERS AT A GENERAL ELECTION.
THIS IS THE FIRST OF TWO PUBLIC HEARINGS ON THIS MATTER.
THE SECOND PUBLIC HEARING WILL OCCUR AT THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS MEETING ON JUNE 19TH, OUR NEXT MEETING IN COTTONWOOD.
FOLLOWING THAT SECOND HEARING, THE BOARD WILL CONVENE A SPECIAL MEETING AND VOTE ON SUBMITTING TO THE VOTERS OF YAVAPAI COUNTY AT THE GENERAL ELECTION TO BE HELD ON NOVEMBER 5TH, 2024, THE QUESTION OF A PERMANENT ADJUSTMENT OF THE COUNTY'S 1979, 1980 BASE EXPENDITURE LIMIT, INCREASING IT BY $7.9 MILLION.
I WILL PAUSE THERE TO SAY THAT BASED ON STAFF'S CALCULATIONS, WE THINK THAT AMOUNT OF ADJUSTMENT TO OUR BASE YEAR LIMIT WOULD BE SUFFICIENT TO ADDRESS THIS COUNTY'S NEEDS FOR THE NEXT 10-12 YEARS.
THE ADJUSTMENTS MADE TO THE COUNTY'S BASE EXPENDITURE LIMIT BY THE STATE HAVE BEEN INSUFFICIENT TO ACCOUNT FOR OUR INCREASED COST RESULTING FROM POPULATION GROWTH AND INFLATION.
AGAIN, I'D LIKE TO PAUSE HERE AS I HAVE TALKED ABOUT THIS ISSUE.
I WANT TO BE VERY CLEAR, THERE ARE SOME ADJUSTMENTS BUILT INTO THAT AS I REFERENCED EARLIER.
HOWEVER, THEY'RE JUST NOT SUFFICIENT TO ADDRESS WHAT WE'VE SEEN WITH INFLATION OVER THE LAST YEAR, AND IN PARTICULAR, THE LAST FEW YEARS AND THE GROWING POPULATION HERE IN YAVAPAI COUNTY.
THE COUNTY NEEDS TO INCREASE ITS BASE 1979-80 EXPENDITURE LIMIT IN ORDER TO CONTINUE TO PROVIDE NECESSARY SERVICES FOR PUBLIC HEALTH, SAFETY, AND WELFARE.
IN THE REASONS THAT I USE THOSE THREE TERMS, THAT'S FROM STATUE, SO IT'S FAIRLY BROAD.
I WOULD COMMENT THAT BACK TO THE ADOPTION OF OUR TENTATIVE BUDGET, YOU MAY RECALL OUR BUDGET CONVERSATIONS, I MADE THE COMMENT THAT I WAS PROUD OF THE BUDGET THAT WE HAD PUT FORTH FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION THIS YEAR, BUT IT WAS NOT WITHOUT SOME VERY DIFFICULT CONVERSATIONS.
FOR THE SECOND YEAR IN A ROW, AND MORE SIGNIFICANTLY THIS COMING YEAR, WE'RE STARTING TO HAVE TO DEFER MAINTENANCE TO OUR COUNTY ROAD NETWORK BECAUSE OF OUR INABILITY TO EXPEND THE FUNDS THAT WE HAVE TO ADDRESS THOSE NEEDS.
LET ALONE IN EXPANSION OF OUR ROAD NETWORK, JUST MAINTENANCE OF THE SYSTEM THAT HAS BEEN BUILT AND MAINTAINED TO A HIGHER STANDARD HERE IN THIS COUNTY.
WE MAY START TO SEE DETERIORATION IN THAT BECAUSE OF OUR INABILITY TO SPEND THE FUNDS NECESSARY TO MAINTAIN THAT NETWORK.
SECONDLY, I TALKED ABOUT OUR CAPITAL EXPENDITURES, A YEAR OF BUILDINGS, OR STRUCTURES, ET CETERA.
WE ARE PROPOSING TO DO VERY MINIMAL AMOUNTS OF THAT NEXT YEAR.
WE KNOW WE'RE WAITING ON THE RESULTS OF A SPACE STUDY TO HELP MAKE THOSE DECISIONS AND DO SOME LONGER RANGE PLANNING, SO GOOD YEAR IF THERE WAS ONE TO TAKE A PAUSE.
BUT AGAIN, WE NEED TO BE CAREFUL THAT WE'RE NOT BEGINNING TO DEFER MAINTENANCE ON OUR BUILDINGS, JEOPARDIZING THE INVESTMENT THAT THE TAXPAYERS OF THIS COUNTY HAVE MADE IN THOSE STRUCTURES.
YOU MAY RECALL, ONE OF THE OBSERVATIONS FROM OUR CONSULTANT ON SPACE STUDY WAS THIS COUNTY HAS DONE A REMARKABLE, EXCEPTIONAL JOB, EVEN THEY COMMENTED, ON MAINTAINING OUR CURRENT BUILDINGS, AND WE DON'T WANT TO SEE THAT INVESTMENT START TO ERODE.
THE POINT OF THOSE COMMENTS IS TO SAY, WE'RE ALREADY EXPERIENCING ISSUES RELATED TO OUR INABILITY TO SPEND THE FUNDS TO ADDRESS THOSE NEEDS.
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NOTICES THIS PUBLIC HEARING HAS BEEN PUBLISHED ONCE A WEEK FOR TWO CONSECUTIVE WEEKS IN THE NEWSPAPER OF GENERAL CIRCULATION IN YAVAPAI COUNTY.ONE OTHER COMMENT I WOULD MAKE, JUST REFERRING BACK TO OUR COMMUNITY HEALTH DIRECTORS COMMENTS ABOUT THE OPIOID SETTLEMENT FUNDS, WHICH WE REFERENCED ABOUT $19 MILLION WE SHOULD BE RECEIVING OVER 18 YEARS, $12.7 MILLION, I BELIEVE, OVER THE NEXT 10 YEARS.
THOSE FUNDS ARE NOT EXEMPT FROM OUR EXPENDITURE LIMIT EITHER, SO JUST ANOTHER PRESSURE ON OUR INABILITY TO EXPEND FUNDS THAT WE'RE RECEIVING, THAT WE'RE PLANNING TO RECEIVE, AND ALREADY HAVE BECAUSE OF THAT EXPENDITURE LIMIT.
WITH THAT, CHAIRMAN, THAT CONCLUDES MY REMARKS.
>> BASICALLY, WHAT WE'RE SAYING TO THE PUBLIC IS WE'RE RECEIVING MONIES FROM MANY DIFFERENT PLACES AND THAT MONEY IS COMING TO US, BUT WE CANNOT SPEND IT, EVEN THOUGH WE WANT TO FOR THE BENEFIT OF THE PUBLIC BECAUSE WE HAVE A LIMITATION.
>> VERY SIMILAR TO HOME RULE IN THE CITIES AND TOWNS.
>> I UNDERSTAND THAT THERE ARE MANY COUNTIES IN THE STATE THAT HAVE ALREADY DONE THIS.
I BELIEVE THE MOST RECENT NUMBER IS 12 OR 13 OF THE 15 COUNTIES.
>> WELL, IF THAT WERE RACING HORSE, IT'S NAME WOULD BE ROUGH SHUFFLE COMING IN LAST.
BUT I HAVE TO TELL YOU THAT I DON'T EVEN REMEMBER 1979.
IT'S AMAZING THAT WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO BE AS EFFECTIVE AS WE HAVE WITH THIS LID ON OUR ABILITY TO EFFECTIVELY SPEND MONEY THAT WE'RE GETTING IN.
I THINK THAT'S THE BOTTOM LINE THAT PEOPLE NEED TO UNDERSTAND.
THIS ISN'T GOING TO RAISE ANYBODY'S TAXES.
>> THIS IS ABOUT OUR ABILITY TO SERVE THE PUBLIC THE WAY WE INTEND TO IN THE WAY OUR MISSION DIRECTS US TO.
>> I KNOW IT'S TENTATIVE PROPOSAL, BUT I CERTAINLY APPLAUD IT AND IN FAVOR OF IT.
>> ALSO, WITH THAT, JUST FOR ALL OF THE PUBLIC, WE WILL BE TALKING ABOUT THIS GOING FORWARD QUITE A LOT.
THIS IS NOT GOING TO BE THE ONLY TIME WE'RE GOING TO BE OUT THERE.
WE HAVE A LOT OF MOVEMENT GOING FORWARD FEEL FREE, OF COURSE, TO REACH OUT TO ANYONE HERE IF YOU HAVE OTHER QUESTIONS, BUT IT IS A VERY BIG NEED. THANK YOU.
>> AGAIN, YOU'VE EXPLAINED VERY ADEQUATELY THAT THE INCREASES THAT WE'RE ALLOWED TO DO EVERY YEAR NOWHERE KEPT UP WITH INFLATION.
RIGHT NOW, WE KNOW THAT ROAD MAINTENANCE, WHETHER OR NOT IT'S JUST GYPSUM GOING ALL THE WAY INTO FULL REPLACEMENT HAS BECOME EXTREMELY EXPENSIVE.
THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE HAVE TO DO JUST TO BE ABLE TO PROVIDE GOOD ROADS FOR OUR COMMUNITY AND OUR COUNTY, AND CONTINUE TO PROVIDE OTHER SERVICES THAT ARE VERY NEEDED FOR THE COUNTY.
I THINK THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE DEFINITELY NEED TO DO, AND I'M CERTAIN THAT IF PEOPLE UNDERSTAND THAT, WE'LL GO AHEAD AND APPROVE THIS IN NOVEMBER SO THAT WE CAN CONTINUE TO PROVIDE GREAT SERVICE TO OUR COUNTY.
>> I WOULD JUST REITERATE WHAT EVERYBODY ELSE HAS SAID ALREADY IS IT'S FOR BASIC SERVICES AND TO MAKE SURE THAT WE WERE ABLE TO CONTINUE THE SERVICE THAT WE PROVIDE.
>> DO WE ALL TO MAKE A MOTION ON THIS TODAY?
>> NO, THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING.
>> THAT'S CORRECT. IF WE JUST FIND OUT IF THERE'S ANY PUBLIC COMMENT, BUT THERE'S NO NEED FOR ACTION TODAY.
>> IS THERE ANY COMMENT BY ANYONE OUT THERE? SEEING NONE.
>> THE BOARD DID NOT RECEIVE ANY WRITTEN COMMENTS.
[3. Development Services - Approve a permanent and transferrable Use Permit to allow a second residence on a 4.89-acre lot in the R1-12 zoning district, subject to the conditions of approval. Project Name: Cross Second Residence Use Permit; Owner(s): Marilyn I. Cross; APN: 500-14-141A; PLA24-000025. The property is located on South Gator Way, in Mayer. (District 2 - Supervisor Gregory)]
DEVELOPMENT SERVICES APPROVE A PERMIT AND TRANSFERABLE USE PERMIT TO ALLOW A SECOND RESIDENCE ON A 4.89 ACRE LOT IN THE R1-12 ZONING DISTRICT, SUBJECT TO THE CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL.PROJECT NAME IS CROSS SECOND RESIDENCE USE PERMIT.
OWNERS ARE MARILYN CROSS, AND THE APN NUMBER IS 50014-141A, AND PLA 24-000025, PROPERTIES LOCATED IN SOUTH GATOR WAY AND MAYER, DISTRICT 2, MR. GREGORY.
>> GOOD MORNING, CHAIRMAN BROWN,
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MEMBERS OF THE BOARD.MY NAME IS TIMOTHY OLSON, PLANNER WITH THE YAVAPAI COUNTY DEVELOPMENT SERVICES, AND I'M PRESENTING, AS YOU SAID, THE CROSS SECONDARY RESIDENTS USE PERMIT.
OKAY. THE RESULTS OF THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION WERE UNANIMOUS FOR THE SECOND RESIDENCE FOR USE, AND THAT WAS HELD IN MAY.
WE ALSO HAVE COMMISSIONER PETERSON HERE AS WELL TO REPRESENT THE YAVAPAI COUNTY PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION AS WELL.
AGAIN, THE PROPERTY IS LOCATED IN DISTRICT 2.
THIS IS AN AREA MAP SHOWING THE LOCATION OF THE PROPERTY.
THIS IS A ZONING MAP SHOWING THE ZONING AROUND THE PROPERTY.
THIS IS AN AERIAL PHOTO SHOWING THE PROPERTY AS IT SITS TODAY.
>> ON THAT PHOTOGRAPH, WHERE IS THE LOCATION OF THE NEW PROPOSAL?
>> THE NEW PROPOSAL IS GOING TO BE RIGHT HERE.
LET ME GIVE YOU SOME EXTRA INFORMATION HERE.
WHAT WE'RE DOING IS THE PROPERTY IS CURRENTLY IN VIOLATION.
MS. CROSS DIDN'T KNOW THE ORDINANCE FOR THE COUNTY, STARTED PUTTING STRUCTURES UP THERE.
WHAT SHE WANTS TO DO IS HAVE A HOME FOR HER, HAVE A HOME FOR HER DAUGHTER AND HER DAUGHTERS CHILDREN AND HER GRANDKIDS, AS WELL.
WITH THIS, PUT ON THESE WE'LL SAY THEY'RE CONTRACTOR TRAILERS ON THERE.
THEN WHAT SHE WANTED TO DO IS COMBINE THEM AND OUTFIT THEM AND BRING THEM UP TO STANDARDS FOR A HOME.
NO PERMITS WERE APPLIED FOR ON ANY OF THIS.
SHE FOUND OUT AFTER IT WENT INTO VIOLATION. SHE'S RAMPED.
SHE'S WORKING WITH BUILDING SAFETY AS WELL WITH THE LAND OR CODE ENFORCEMENT TO RESOLVE THOSE AND ALSO RESOLVE ANY TYPE OF GRADING ISSUES AS WELL.
WE'RE HERE. IF YOU WERE JUST TO LOOK AT THIS PROPERTY AS AN MP PROPERTY, WE'RE ASKING FOR TWO RESIDENCES ON HERE.
THIS IS SINGLE-FAMILY RESIDENTIAL SITE BUILT OR MANUFACTURER IS ALLOWED IN HERE.
BUT WE'RE JUST LOOKING AT THIS PROPERTY FOR A SECOND RESIDENCE.
SHE NEEDS TO FIX ALL THE VIOLATIONS.
SHE NEEDS TO COME UP TO BUILDING SAFETY REGULATIONS AS WELL BEFORE WE COULD ACTUALLY PUT TWO HOUSES ON THIS PROPERTY, AND SHE'S WORKING WITH BOTH OF THOSE DEPARTMENTS AS WELL AS A PLANNING AND ZONING DEPARTMENT AS WELL.
>> CLARIFICATION, THERE ARE NO HOUSES THERE NOW.
>> NO. WE CAN'T CLASSIFY THESE AS HOUSES AT ALL. NO. ABSOLUTELY NOT.
>> SHE'S GOING TO BRING ON SOMETHING TO CREATE TWO HOUSES?
>> SHE IS. SHE'S WORKING WITH BUILDING SAFETY.
IF WE LOOK AT THE PHOTOGRAPH, I'M GOING TO FORWARD THE SLIDE SO WE CAN LOOK AT SOME BETTER PHOTOGRAPHS OF THE PROPERTY. THERE WE GO.
THIS IS A PHOTOGRAPH OF HOW THE PROPERTY SITS.
THESE TWO STRUCTURES SHE WANTED TO COMBINE THESE TWO STRUCTURES.
SHE WANTED TO COMBINE THESE TWO STRUCTURES, AND THEN BRING THEM UP TO STANDARD FOR HOUSING.
ONE FOR HER, ONE FOR HER DAUGHTER, AND FOR HER CHILDREN.
THESE OTHER STRUCTURES ARE FOR STORAGE AS WELL.
EVENTUALLY, SHE WANTED TO PUT A GUEST HOUSE OVER HERE.
AGAIN, NOT KNOWING OUR ORDINANCE.
WE DEAL WITH THIS ON A DAILY BASIS IN PLANNING AND ZONING OF PEOPLE WHO WOULD JUST WANT TO PULL UP IN THIS RV TRAVEL TRAILER, OR THEY BUY A TOUGH SHED THINKING IT'S A TINY HOME, AND HEY, WE'RE GOOD, AND THAT'S NOT HOW IT IS.
YOU COME FROM AN AREA LIKE MARICOPA COUNTY, EVERYTHING'S DEVELOPED SO THEY FIGURE, HEY, THIS IS YAVAPAI COUNTY RURAL.
IT'S RURAL, NO PERMITS NEEDED, BUT THEY NEED PERMITS.
WHAT THEY'RE GOING TO DO IS ALSO SHARE ONE BIG SEPTIC SYSTEM AS WELL.
THERE'S SOME FINANCIAL ISSUES ON HERE TOO, THAT WE'RE TRYING TO REMEDIATE THIS AS BEST AS WE CAN.
MRS. CROSS IS ALSO TRYING TO REMEDIATE THAT TOO, TO BRING IT INTO COMPLIANCE.
SHE IS HERE TODAY. I'M GOING TO GO AHEAD AND DEFER ANY OF THOSE QUESTIONS TO MS. CROSS REGARDING THIS.
>> HOW LONG THEY BEEN IN VIOLATION?
>> THIS HAS BEEN IN VIOLATION SINCE, I BELIEVE, IF I GO TO MY NOTES, I CAN TELL YOU EXACTLY.
LOOKS LIKE WE'RE GOING TO GO JUNE 26, 2023.
>> THAT'S WHEN WE NOTED IT, BUT HOW LONG AGO DID THIS ACTUALLY OCCUR?
>> I DON'T KNOW. I'D HAVE TO HAVE CODE ENFORCEMENT COME UP HERE TO FIND OUT WHEN THAT ANONYMOUS CALL CAME IN.
THEN WHEN CODE ENFORCEMENT GOES OUT, IT COULD BE A WEEK TO TWO WEEKS.
WHEN IT WAS REGISTERED IT WAS JUNE 26, 2023.
>> WHAT ARE THE THREE STRUCTURES? ARE THEY CONEX BOX?
>> THIS IS A CONEX BOX, CONEX BOX, AND I'M SURE YOU'VE BEEN OUT TO A CONSTRUCTION SITE AND SEEN A CONTRACTOR'S TRAILER OUT THERE.
THIS IS TYPICALLY WHAT THESE ARE.
THESE ARE NOT MANUFACTURED HOMES.
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THESE ARE CONTRACTOR TRAILERS. THAT'S IT.CAN THEY BE OUTFITTED? YES, THEY CAN.
IT'S VERY EXPENSIVE BECAUSE THEY HAVE TO BE REMOVED, TAKEN TO PHOENIX TO A COMPANY THAT OUTFITS THIS.
THEN IT HAS TO BE CERTIFIED BY THE STATE OF ARIZONA AS MANUFACTURED HOME.
THEN YOU CAN BRING THEM BACK ON OR SHE HAS OPTIONS.
THERE'S OTHER OPTIONS OUT THERE AS WELL.
>> IS THERE ANY SEPTIC ON THE PROPERTY NO?
>> IT HAS TESTED TEST HOLES FOR SEPTIC FOR SOIL ABSORPTION, BUT THERE'S NO SEPTIC SYSTEM ON THE PROPERTY AT THIS TIME.
>> THE SEPTIC SYSTEM, IF YOU SEE WHERE IT SAYS SEPTIC PROPERTY, RIGHT THERE, THAT'S WHERE THE SEPTIC SYSTEM WILL BE PLACED.
>> HOW LONG HAVE THEY HAD THE PROPERTY? DO YOU KNOW?
SORRY, I'M GOING OFF MY NOTE, SO I APOLOGIZE FOR THE DELAY OF INFORMATION FOR YOU.
LOOKS LIKE THEY PURCHASED THE 4.89 ACRE PROPERTY WITH THE INTENT TO HAVE THIS.
I'M GOING TO HAVE TO ASK MS. CROSS.
I DID NOT PUT THAT IN MY NOTE, SO I'LL DEFER THAT TO MRS. CROSS AT THIS POINT.
>> THEN BELOW THE THREE, THERE'S ANOTHER LOOKS LIKE STRUCTURE DONE. WHAT IS THAT?
AGAIN, IF YOU HAVE A PERMIT, THERE'S NO TEMPORARY DWELLING PERMIT FOR THIS TWO TRAVEL TRAILER THAT GOT PUT ON THERE, THAT'S ALSO IN VIOLATION AS WELL.
THAT HAS TO BE REMEDIATED AS WELL.
>> SO FOR CLARITY, THIS WHOLE PROPERTY AND EVERYTHING ON IT IS IN VIOLATION.
HOW I LOOK AT IT, I KNOW ABOUT THE VIOLATIONS, BUT HOW I LOOK AT IT, I'M LOOKING AT THIS IS A VACANT PROPERTY.
WHAT THEY NEED TO DO IS APPLY IF YOU WANT TO HAVE TWO RESIDENTS ON IT, YOU NEED TO GO THROUGH THE USE PERMIT PROCESS FIRST, SAY IT GETS APPROVED TODAY, SAY IT GETS DENIED TODAY.
THEY STILL BEFORE THEY CAN APPLY FOR ANY PERMITS, NEED TO COME INTO COMPLIANCE WITH YAVAPAI COUNTY DEVELOPMENT SERVICES.
>> IF I UNDERSTAND YOU CORRECTLY, THEY BASICALLY HAVE TO REMOVE EVERYTHING OFF THIS PROPERTY, EXCEPT MAYBE THE RV IF THEY ACTUALLY HAVE A PERMIT TO GO AHEAD AND START BUILDING HOMES.
>> YES. IF THEY HAVE A PERMIT IN, THEY COULD ALSO APPLY FOR A TEMPORARY DRILLING PERMIT.
THAT WOULD ALLOW MS. CROSS TO STAY ON THIS PROPERTY WHILE SHE IS FIXING THE VIOLATIONS AND ALSO DOING WITH BUILDING AND BRING IT BACK UP TO CODE.
>> IS THAT IN PLAY? IS THAT HAPPENING?
>> SURE. CURRENTLY, IT'S IN PLAY RIGHT NOW.
THIS IS JUST PART OF THE PROCESS.
AND SOME PEOPLE WILL SAY, HEY, TIM YOU MIGHT BE PUTTING THE CART BEFORE THE HORSE, BUT I'M LOOKING AT THIS AS A BLANK SLATE, AND I'M TRYING TO WORK WITH THIS APPLICANT AS BEST AS I CAN.
>> SO WHAT'S THE TIMING THEN ON THE PERMIT FOR THE TRAVEL TRAILER, WHICH IS WHAT I PRESUME SHE WOULD HAVE TO BE IN UNTIL ALL THESE OTHER STRUCTURES ARE AMENDED?
>> AS SOON AS YOU APPLIED FOR IT.
>> SHE HAS NOT APPLIED FOR IT?
>> I DON'T BELIEVE SO, NOT YET.
>> ARE THEY LIVING ON THE PROPERTY?
>> THEY'RE NOT LIVING ON THE PROPERTY AT THIS TIME.
I BELIEVE MS. CROSS MIGHT BE LIVING IN THE TRAVEL TRAILER TIME TO TIME, BUT WE'LL ASK MS. CROSS THAT AS WELL.
>> HOW LONG DOES IT TYPICALLY TAKE, IF I MAY ASK HIM?
>> FOR A TEMPORARY DRILLING PERMIT.
AS SOON AS PERMITTING SENDS IT TO ME, I'LL HAVE IT DONE THAT DAY OR THE NEXT DAY.
USUALLY, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE TIMELINE.
I'M PRETTY EFFICIENT BY MY PERMITS.
>> YOUR DISTRICT. WELL, I'D LIKE TO HEAR DO WE HAVE GREEN SHEETS ON THIS?
>> FOR THE RECORD, THERE WERE NO GREEN SHEETS RECEIVED TODAY, BUT ONE LETTER OF OPPOSITION WAS RECEIVED BY THE BOARD.
>> I GUESS MY STRUGGLE IS IS YOU GOT THE WHOLE PROPERTY IN IN VIOLATION.
YOU'RE WANTING TO PUT A SECONDARY RESIDENCE ON THE PROPERTY.
YOU GOT TO REMOVE THE TRAILERS AND THE CONACS BOXES.
I DON'T KNOW IF I FEEL COMFORTABLE ENOUGH TODAY TO APPROVE IT WITHOUT HAVING A PRIMARY STRUCTURE AND SEE IF THEY COME IN COMPLIANCE, GET THAT STUFF OFF THE PROPERTY.
>> WOULD WE LIKE TO SLATE THIS FOR ANOTHER TIME UNTIL WE BRING THAT UP? WE CAN DO THAT.
>> YOU COULD MAKE A BIG DIFFERENCE IF YOU CAME BEFORE ME AND SAID, THEY'VE GOT THEIR PERMIT FOR THE TRAVEL TRAILER AND THEY'RE WORKING IT'S IN PLAY.
>> IT'S HARD TO ASSUME THAT IF WE DO THIS TODAY, ALL THE OTHER THINGS ARE GOING TO DROP INTO PLACE.
>> AND ALL THE OTHER ADJUSTMENTS THAT ARE BEING NOTED NEED TO BE MADE.
>> SO THAT'S YOUR MOTION, MR. GREG.
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>> THIS IS MS. CROSS THE APPLICANT.
> I SHOULD HAVE ASKED IF YOU WERE HERE. I'M SORRY.
I AM THE PROPERTY OWNER, AND I'VE OBVIOUSLY MADE A LOT OF MISTAKES BECAUSE I WAS GOING BY WHAT I WAS BEING TOLD AND NOT DOING MY OWN RESEARCH.
I WAS ALSO I HAVE NOT APPLIED FOR A PERMIT FOR THE TRAVEL TRADER BECAUSE I WAS TOLD THAT I COULDN'T APPLY FOR THAT UNTIL I GOT A PERMIT FOR THE RESIDENCES.
OTHERWISE, I WOULD HAVE ALREADY DONE THAT, BUT THAT WAS MY UNDERSTANDING THAT I COULDN'T EVEN APPLY FOR THAT PERMIT.
>> WELL, IT'S MY SUGGESTION TO YOU, IT'S ONLY A SUGGESTION THAT YOU TALK WITH DEVELOPMENT SERVICES AND THEY WILL HELP YOU GET THINGS ORGANIZED TO THE POINT WHERE YOU'RE MOVING FORWARD.
>> WE'VE BEEN IN CONSTANT CALL, I'VE BEEN TALKING TO THEM A LOT, AND THAT'S WHAT BROUGHT US HERE TODAY.
>> WHEN DID YOU BUY THE PROPERTY? I THINK IT WAS MARCH OR APRIL OF 2020 I HAD IT FOR TWO YEARS.
>> BUT IT WAS IN VIOLATION WHEN YOU PURCHASED IT.
DIDN'T YOUR REAL ESTATE PERSON TELL YOU THAT?
>> THAT'S WHAT I'M TRYING TO GET PASSED.
>> WHEN YOU PURCHASED THE PROPERTY, WAS THE TRAILERS ALREADY ON THE PROPERTY OR DID YOU MOVE THOSE TRAILERS TO THE PROPERTY?
>> THERE WAS A COUPLE OF CONICS.
THE CONICS WERE THERE, AND THEN I MOVED EVERYTHING ELSE ON.
>> SO THE COMPANY THAT YOU PURCHASED THE TRAILERS FROM DIDN'T TELL YOU YOU NEEDED A PERMIT ENTERING?
>> NO, SIR. AND BEING VERY NAIVE AND BEING A NOVICE AT THIS AND I'M DOING THIS ALL MYSELF, I'M TRYING TO GET INTO MORE POSITIVE ENVIRONMENT FOR MY DAUGHTER AND HER KIDS OUT OF A DOMESTIC SITUATION.
SO THAT WAS WHAT DROVE US HERE.
AND SO WE BOUGHT THE PROPERTY AND WANTED TO TAKE THE BUILDINGS.
AND THE THREE BUILDINGS BELOW THE TWO CORNIX AND THE OTHER ONE.
I WAS HOPING TO PUT A LARGE METAL BUILDING THERE.
EVENTUALLY, AND THOSE WOULD BE GONE AND THAT WAS MY PLAN.
SO I'VE GOT ALL THESE LITTLE PLANS IN MY HEAD.
>> NOW AGAIN, GOING BACK, I THINK WHAT YOU NEED TO DO IS SIT DOWN AND FORM A PLAN WITH DEVELOPMENT SERVICES ON HOW YOU PROCEED AND FOLLOW THAT PRETTY CLOSELY.
BECAUSE OTHERWISE YOU HAVE VIOLATIONS ON HERE THAT COULD BE PROBLEMS IN THE FUTURE IF THIS IS NOT DONE.
LIKE I SAID, THAT'S WHAT BROUGHT US HERE TODAY.
I SENT LETTERS OUT, AND I DID GET TWO LETTERS BACK FROM NEIGHBORS.
>> HOWEVER, THEIR OPINIONS MAY NOT BE BASED ON OUR ORDINANCES.
>> WORKING WITH MR. GREGORY AND WITH DEVELOPMENT SERVICES, YOU MIGHT FIND IT A LOT EASIER TO MOVE FORWARD.
>> AWESOME. BY RIGHT, SHE CAN APPLY FOR A PERMIT FOR ONE OF THE TRAILERS NOW IT'S ZONED FOR THAT.
TODAY, YOU'RE ASKING FOR A SECONDARY STRUCTURE ON THAT TRAILER, IS THAT CORRECT?
>> CORRECT, WE ARE. ONE THING, I ALSO WANT TO MAKE A POINT TOO, FOR IF YOU WANT TO LIVE ON YOUR PROPERTY WHILE YOUR PROPERTY IS BEING DEVELOPED, YOU HAVE A PERMIT IN FOR A PRIMARY HOME, YOU CAN APPLY FOR A TEMPORARY DWELLING PERMIT AT THE SAME TIME.
THAT TEMPORARY DWELLING PERMIT WILL BE ISSUED WITH YOUR PRIMARY HOME AT THE SAME TIME.
>> WHAT I WANT YOU TO HEAR, MRS. CROSS, IS THAT THIS BOARD WANTS TO HELP YOU, AND OUR DEVELOPMENT SERVICES WANT TO HELP YOU.
WE'RE NOT IN THE BUSINESS OF STOPPING PEOPLE FROM REALIZING THEIR DREAMS. I THINK I HEAR YOUR MESSAGING, AND I APPLAUD YOUR LEADERSHIP IN THE MATRIARCH FOR TAKING CONTROL AND FINDING A WAY TO BRING YOUR FAMILY, YOUR DAUGHTER, AND HER CHILDREN TO YOU AND THERE'S NOT ONE THING IN ANY ONE OF US THAT WOULD WANT TO STOP THAT, YOU JUST HAVE TO DO IT IN THE WAY THAT CAN BE CONSIDERED AS SOMETHING WE COULD APPROVE.
>> I COMPLETELY UNDERSTAND AND THAT'S WHY ONCE I GOT THE VIOLATION AND I WAS AWARE OF IT AND THEN I STARTED WORKING WITH THE COUNTY, AS CLOSELY AS I COULD AND TO FIGURE THIS OUT, NOT REALIZING WHAT A MESS I HAD CAUSED.
I'VE ALREADY SPOKEN TO THE PERSON THAT DID THE GRADING FOR ME.
HE SAID THAT HE APPLIED FOR A PERMIT AND TOLD ME HE APPLIED AND PAID FOR A PERMIT AND I FOUND OUT HE DID NOT.
I CONTACTED HIM AND HE TOLD ME HE WOULD TAKE CARE OF IT, SO THAT'S AT LEAST ONE LITTLE THING THAT I'M TRYING TO FIX HERE.
I DO HAVE THE PERMIT FOR THE SEPTIC HAS BEEN ISSUED.
I'M TRYING TO TAKE THE STEPS NECESSARY TO GET WHERE I NEED TO BE.
IT'S JUST A VERY PAINFUL SLOW PROCESS RIGHT NOW.
>> YOU'RE GOING TO PAY FOR THE COST TO GET THE TRAILERS REMOVED?
>> WELL, I'M PROBABLY GOING TO END UP HAVING TO SELL THEM.
>> RIGHT. THEN GO AFTER [INAUDIBLE]
>> YEAH, AND FIGURE OUT WHAT TO DO, BECAUSE HONESTLY, I DON'T HAVE THE MONEY TO DO THAT.
>> SO SALES MAY BE GOING ON AND GETTING THOSE BUILDINGS OUT OF THERE.
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AGAIN, I'LL BE WORKING WITH THESE GUYS TO [INAUDIBLE]>> COMMISSIONER PETERSON, WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK WITH THE BOARD.
>> CHAIRMAN BROWN AND AND BOARD OF SUPERVISORS.
I'M JIM PETERSON, A MEMBER OF THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMITTEE.
WE ENDED UP STRUGGLING WITH ALL THESE ISSUES AT OUR MEETING.
BUT THE ESSENCE OF THIS IS THE REQUEST OF THE APPLICANT AT THIS POINT IS, CAN WE SEPARATE THIS FOUR-ACRE PARCEL IN FOR TWO HOMES? I THINK ALL THE OTHER ITEMS THAT YOU'RE CONCERNED ABOUT ARE PERIPHERAL TO THE FACT WHETHER OR NOT SHE CAN HAVE THAT PARCEL, HAVE TWO HOMES ON IT, AND OUR RECOMMENDATION TO YOU WAS THAT THIS IS A PARCEL THAT SHOULD HAVE THE ABILITY TO HAVE TWO HOMES ON IT, AND THAT WAS OUR RECOMMENDATION TO YOU.
THE OTHER ITEMS THAT YOU'RE DISCUSSING, I THINK ARE ALL APPROPRIATE FOR THE DEPARTMENTS TO TAKE CARE OF ON AN INDIVIDUAL BASIS.
BUT UNTIL SHE KNOWS WHETHER OR NOT SHE CAN HAVE TWO HOMES ON THIS, THEN THERE'S AN ISSUE AS TO WHETHER OR NOT SHE SHOULD EVEN GO FORWARD AND SPEND THE MONEY AND TIME TO DO THAT.
OUR RECOMMENDATION TO YOU WAS THAT SHE SHOULD BE ABLE TO HAVE TWO HOMES ON IT, AND I JUST WANTED TO ADD THOSE COMMENTS TO IT.
>> LET ME JUST ASK IF THERE'S A POSSIBILITY TO CONSIDER BECAUSE THIS IS YOUR DISTRICT?
>> NO, I AGREE. I THINK WHAT I'M STUCK ON IS WHAT'S ON THERE RIGHT NOW, AND NOT ALL THE VIOLATIONS THAT COINCIDE WITH IT.
IT'S A 4.5 ACRE PARCEL, SO I THINK FOUR ACRES IS PLENTY TO HAVE A SECONDARY HOME.
WITH THAT, I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE THE MOTION TO APPROVE.
>> CHAIRMAN, VICE CHAIR MEMBERS OF THE BOARD.
I NEED TO GO BACK A LITTLE BIT BEFORE WE TRY TO MOVE FORWARD.
FIRST OF ALL, YOU PREVIOUSLY MADE A MOTION, SUPERVISOR GREGORY, AND THERE WAS A SECOND AND A VOTE, AND I'M NOT CLEAR WHAT THAT MOTION WAS AND I'M JUST, FOR THE MOMENT, TRYING TO MAKE A CLEAR RECORD, AND THEN WE CAN DETERMINE WHAT STEPS WE CAN TAKE MOVING FORWARD.
I WASN'T SURE IF YOU WERE DENYING OR TABLING.
NOW, EVERYONE VOTED, BUT NO ACTUAL VOTE WAS ANNOUNCED.
I DON'T BELIEVE THAT IT WAS ANNOUNCED AND I'VE SPOKEN TO THE CLERK.
I DON'T BELIEVE THE RESULT OF THE VOTE WAS ANNOUNCED AND YOU HADN'T HEARD FROM THE APPLICANT.
IT'S APPROPRIATE TO HEAR FROM THE APPLICANT BEFORE A MOTION IS MADE, AND THE RULES OF ORDER FOR THE BOARD ALLOW YOU TO CHANGE YOUR VOTE UP UNTIL THE TIME THAT THE RESULT IS ANNOUNCED.
IF, IN FACT, YOU WANT TO WITHDRAW THE MOTION, EVERYONE'S IN AGREEMENT.
>> THEN FOR THE SECOND AND EVERYONE VOTES.
>> THEN YOU'RE WITHDRAWING THE SECOND.
>> WITH THAT, I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE SECONDARY RESIDENCE.
>> AYE. THANK YOU FOR THE CLARITY, MR. PETERSON.
>> PROVING THE SECOND RESIDENCE.
>> WE GOT THROUGH IT. THANK Y'ALL.
>> KEEP STRUGGLING. YOU'LL GET THERE.
>> I'M GOING TO BE WORKING WITH MISS CROSS THE ENTIRE WAY, SO SHE'S IN GOOD HANDS.
>> ITEM NUMBER 4, DEVELOPMENT SERVICES APPROVE
[4. Development Services - Approve a permanent and transferrable Use Permit to allow for a waiver of Section 516; Density District 2A, to grant a reduction of the required 50-foot front setback by 45-feet to allow for a front setback of 5-feet and a reduction of the required 25-foot east interior side setback by 23-feet to allow for a 2-foot setback, for the existing single family residence and for the proposed addition to the existing single-family residence, on 2-acres in the RCU-2A zoning district, subject to the conditions of approval. Project Name: Petersen Addition to Existing Cabin Use Permit; Owner(s): Carl F. & Annette Petersen. APN: 205-13-430A; PLA24-000026. The property is located in Walker. (District 5 - Supervisor Mallory)]
A PERMANENT AND TRANSFERABLE USE PERMIT TO ALLOW FOR A WAIVER OF SECTION 516, DENSITY DISTRICT 2A, TO GRANT A REDUCTION OF THE REQUIRED 50 FOOT SETBACK BY 45 FEET TO ALLOW FOR A FRONT SETBACK OF ONLY FIVE FEET AND A REDUCTION OF THE REQUIRED 25 FEET EAST INTERIOR SIDE SETBACK BY 23 FEET TO ALLOW FOR A TWO FOOT SETBACK FOR THE EXISTING SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENCES AND FOR PROPOSED ADDITION TO THE EXISTING SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENCE ON TWO ACRES IN AN RCU-2A ZONING DISTRICT, SUBJECT TO THE CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL, PROJECT NAME IS PETERSON, ADDITION TO EXISTING CABIN USE PERMIT.[02:15:02]
OWNERS CARL F AND ANITA PETERSON, APN 205-13-430 A, AND THAT'S PLATTE PLA24-0000026, THE PROPERTY IS LOCATED IN WALKER AND SUPERVISOR DISTRICT MS. MALLORY.>> THANK YOU. GOOD MORNING AGAIN.
>> THEY ARE NOT HERE. I HAVE A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT NEWS FOR YOU THIS MORNING.
WE ARE LOOKING TO THE PETERSONS IMMEDIATELY.
WELL, LET'S GO STRAIGHT TO THE DENIAL PAGE HERE.
DO I HAVE? THERE IT IS. THE VOTE WAS 8-1 DENIAL OF THIS.
WE HAD ONE NEIGHBOR THAT WAS IN OPPOSITION, AND IMMEDIATELY, THE PETERSON'S REACHED OUT TO THE OPPOSITION WHO WAS HERE DURING THE COMMISSION AND ARE WORKING WITH THAT OPPOSITION, AND THEY HAVE ACTUALLY BECOME VERY GOOD FRIENDS AT THIS POINT.
BUT AT THIS POINT, THEY'RE NOT WILLING TO MOVE FORWARD ON IT UNTIL THEY HAVE THE FULL FLOOR PLANS OF THEIR ADDITION, IN WHICH THE OPPOSITION WOULD LIKE TO APPROVE THAT BEFORE THEY MOVE FORWARD WITH THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS HEARING.
WE'RE ASKING TO HAVE THIS SLATED UNTIL THE JULY 17TH VERDICT HEARING, WHICH YOU'LL BE IN COTTONWOOD ON THAT DATE ON JULY 17TH.
>> A YOU ASKING FOR IT TO BE TABLED UNTIL THAT TIME?
>> MR. CHAIR. TWO MORE FOR NUMBER 5.
>> GREAT. ITEM NUMBER 4, DEVELOPMENT SERVICES.
IS THAT THE ONE WE JUST HEARD? NO.
[5. Development Services - Approve a rezoning from the RCU-2A zoning district to the RCU-18 zoning district, subject to the conditions of approval. Project Name: Kwasniak Rezoning; Owner(s): Andrzej Kwasniak & Anna Janusze; APN: 104-23-066A; PLA23-000165. The property is in the Groom Creek area. (District 1 - Supervisor Oberg)]
APPROVAL REZONING FROM RCU-2A ZONING DISTRICT, RCU-18 ZONING DISTRICT, SUBJECT TO THE CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL.PROJECT NAME IS KWASNIAK, I HOPE I DIDN'T DESTROY THAT.
I'M EVEN GOING TO TRY WITH THE FIRST NAME ANNA [INAUDIBLE] APN104-23-066A, PLA23-0001605.
THE PROPERTY IS IN GROOM CREEK, AND IT'S IN SUPERVISOR OBERG'S DISTRICT.
>> YES. GOOD MORNING, AGAIN, TIM OLSSON PLANNER WITH YAVAPAI COUNTY DEVELOPMENT SERVICES.
AGAIN TODAY, I'M PRESENTING THE KWASNIAK DENSITY DISTRICT REZONING.
THE PREVIOUS VOTE FROM THE PLANNING ZONING COMMISSION WAS ACTUALLY 8-1 DENIAL FOR THIS CHANGE.
AGAIN, IT IS LOCATED IN SUPERVISOR OBERG'S DISTRICT, DISTRICT 1, IT'S SITED IN THE CORNER.
IT'S ALMOST IN MALLORY'S DISTRICT.
THIS IS A AREA MAP SHOWING THE LOCATION OF THE PROPERTY.
THERE IS SOME CONFUSION AT FIRST.
I JUST WANT TO LET PEOPLE KNOW.
PEOPLE THINK, THIS IS PONDEROSA PARK.
IT'S NOT GROOM CREEK. IT IS GROOM CREEK.
ACCORDING TO THE DEPARTMENT OF INTERIOR, US GEOLOGICAL SURVEY KWAN GROOM CREEK.
THIS IS ALSO A ZONING MAP OF THE PROPERTY, AND IT IS LOCATED IN THE PONDEROSA PARK, AND IT IS AN UNRECORDED SUBDIVISION, SO IT'S NOT A TRUE SUBDIVISION.
THE SECOND PORTION OF THE PONDEROSA SUBDIVISION WAS RECORDED AND THAT WAS RECORDED IN 1957. THIS WAS NOT.
WHAT'S GOING ON HERE IS THAT THE KWASNIAK WOULD LIKE TO SPLIT THIS PROPERTY.
THE ZONING DISTRICT, THE DENSITY DISTRICT IS TWO ACRE MINIMUM, WHICH WAS CHANGED IN 1982.
THIS WAS 18,000 SQUARE FOOT MINIMUM DISTRICT BEFORE THEN.
NONE OF THE PROPERTIES IN HERE HAVE EVER MET A TWO ACRE MINIMUM, UNLESS THEY'VE COMBINED A BUNCH OF PARCELS TO MAKE IT TWO ACRES, BUT THAT IS NOT THE CASE HERE.
THERE'S NO TWO-ACRE PARCELS IN THIS AREA, SO THEY'RE ASKING TO SPLIT THIS PROPERTY AT THIS POINT.
I'M GOING TO GO AHEAD AND MOVE FORWARD.
THIS IS ACTUALLY THE SITE PLAN OF THEIR PROPERTY.
AS YOU CAN SEE THE MAIN HOUSES OVER HERE, THIS IS GOING TO BE ACTUALLY ON THE NORTH SIDE.
THIS IS GOING TO BE THE SOUTH SIDE. THIS IS A GUEST HOUSE.
THEY WANT TO SPLIT THE PROPERTY IN TWO.
THIS PROPERTY ALREADY HAS TWO ADDRESSES.
ONE IS FOR THE PRIMARY HOME, AND ONE IS FOR THE GUEST HOME ALREADY.
THEY BOTH HAVE SEPARATE DRIVEWAYS.
AFTER MY PRESENTATION, MR. KUZNICK WOULD LIKE
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TO DO A SHORT PRESENTATION TO ALSO SHOW HIS SIDE OF THIS PROPERTY AND WHAT HE'D LIKE TO DO.>> AGAIN, AS WE LOOK AT THIS, THERE ARE NO PARCELS IN THE PONDEROSA PARK THAT ARE TWO ACRES, THAT NONE OF THEM MEET THE TWO ACRE MINIMUM.
IN GENERAL, NO FURTHER DWELLING UNITS CAN BE BUILT ON THIS SITE.
EVEN IF YOU DO SPLIT IT, YOU CANNOT BUILD ANOTHER HOME OR A DWELLING UNIT ON THIS PARCEL, OR IF IT DOES GET SPLIT, YOU CANNOT BUILD ANOTHER DWELLING UNIT ON IT.
AGAIN, THIS IS AN AERIAL VIEW OF THIS PROPERTY.
AS YOU CAN SEE, THE GUEST HOUSE, A PRIMARY HOUSE, KAIBAB ROAD, AND I BELIEVE JUNIPER LOOP ROAD.
THIS IS A PHOTOGRAPH LOOKING NORTH, THIS IS A PHOTOGRAPH LOOKING SOUTH, THIS IS A PHOTOGRAPH LOOKING WEST, AND THIS IS A CITIZEN PARTICIPATION.
NOW, THE KWASNIAKS ARE IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE CITIZEN PARTICIPATION PROCESS.
THEY DID SEND OUT LETTERS OF INTENT TO THE SURROUNDING PROPERTY OWNERS WITHIN 1,000 FEET OF THE PROPERTY.
AS YOU CAN SEE ON THIS PHOTOGRAPH, YOU CAN SEE THE YELLOW CIRCLE.
EVERYTHING IN THERE IS 1,000 FOOT BUFFER.
ANYTHING OUTSIDE THAT 1,000 FOOT BUFFER, WE STILL TAKE IN THOSE, WHETHER IT BE OPPOSITION OR SUPPORT, BUT WE STILL COUNT THOSE, BUT WE ALSO WANT TO MAKE IT NOTED THAT THERE ARE FIVE OPPOSITION OUTSIDE OF THAT BUFFER, AND THERE'S ACTUALLY ONE IN SUPPORT OUTSIDE OF THAT BUFFER.
TODAY, WE'VE HAD A TOTAL OF 13 IN OPPOSITION.
FIVE OF THOSE ARE OUTSIDE THAT BUFFER, EIGHT ARE WITHIN THAT BUFFER.
WE ALSO HAD SIX LETTERS OF SUPPORT THAT ARE ACTUALLY FIVE ARE INSIDE THE BUFFER, ONE IS OUTSIDE OF THAT BUFFER.
IN SUMMARY, THE DENSITY DISTRICT CHANGED TO REZONE FROM RCU-2A, RESIDENTIAL, SINGLE FAMILY, RURAL, TWO-ACRE MINIMUM PARCEL SIZE ZONING DISTRICT TO RCU, 18,000 SQUARE FOOT MINIMUM SIZE, SINGLE FAMILY, RESIDENTIAL, RURAL, MINIMUM 18,000 SQUARE FOOT PARCEL SIZE, AGAIN, I REPEAT IT MYSELF, SUBJECT TO THE CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL.
THESE ARE THE CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL.
THAT CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION.
MR. KUZNICK WOULD LIKE TO GO AHEAD AND ALSO ADDRESS THE BOARD WITH HIS PRESENTATION AS WELL.
THIS CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION.
COMMISSIONER PETERSON IS HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS REGARDING THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION'S RULING.
>> ISN'T IT IN VIOLATION AT THIS TIME?
>> NO VIOLATIONS. EVERYTHING IS BUILT WITH PERMITS.
ONE THING I ALSO WANT TO MENTION TOO.
IN THIS PONDEROSA PARK, AND THEN LIKE MANY SMALL COMMUNITIES, WE HAVE PARCELS THAT WERE SPLIT WITHOUT MINOR LAND DIVISION, MAKING THEM NON-CONFORMING, IF THE KWASNIAKS ARE GOING THROUGH THE PROCESS TO MAKE SURE THEY CAN HAVE A CONFORMING SPLIT.
IF IT GETS DENIED TODAY, THEY CAN MOVE FORWARD ON A MINOR LAND DIVISION, NOTING THE DEFICIENCIES, AND THEN IT WOULD NOT BE CONSIDERED A CONFORMING PARCEL.
THEY COULD GET THAT SPLIT AS A NON-CONFORMING PARCEL.
AT THAT POINT, BUILDING PERMITS WILL NOT BE ISSUED TO A NON-CONFORMING PARCELS AT THIS POINT.
WE'RE GOING THROUGH THE RIGHT ROUTE BY GOING THROUGH THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION TO SEE IF WE CAN GET THE SPLIT, AND ALSO GOING THROUGH THE BOARD.
IF THE BOARD DECIDES TO SAY DENIAL ON THIS, THEY WILL MOVE FORWARD ON A MINOR LAND DIVISION AND HAVE THE SPLIT NON-CONFORMING, AND BUILDING PERMITS WILL NOT BE ISSUED.
IF THEY SELL A PORTION OR BOTH PORTIONS OF THESE, THE NEW OWNERS WILL NOT BE ABLE TO BUILD ANYTHING.
BUILDING PERMITS WILL NOT BE ISSUED.
>> WE DON'T WALK DOWN THE GARDEN PATH WITH MR. AND MRS. KWASNIAK.
LET ME MAKE A QUESTION HERE, AND I ASK MR. OBERG, HOW DO YOU FEEL ABOUT THIS?
>> I'D LIKE TO HEAR FROM MR. KUZNICK FIRST,
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IF YOU DON'T MIND, CHAIR.THEN I'D LIKE TO ALSO HEAR FROM MR. PETERSON AS TO WHY P&Z VOTED THE WAY THEY DID.
I'M ALSO WANTED TO HEAR FROM ANY LETTERS THAT WE HAVE IN DENIAL.
I THINK THAT WAS HOW MANY IN DENIAL?
>> WE HAVE SIX CURRENTLY RAISED, TWO-TO-ONE TO SPEAK AND SIX OPPOSED AGAINST THE ISSUE.
>> THE BOARD RECEIVED SEVEN LETTERS OF OPPOSITION.
>> I'D LIKE TO HEAR FROM MR. KUZNICK FIRST, IF YOU DON'T MIND, CHAIR, AND THEN WE'LL MOVE ON HERE FROM OTHER FOLKS.
>> MY NAME IS ANDREW KWASNIAK, AND HERE'S MY WIFE.
>> CHAIRMAN BROWN AND VICE CHAIRMAN MICHAELS, DR. MICHAELS, AND ALL THE COMMITTEE MEMBERS OF SUPERVISOR BOARD, THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME TODAY.
IN 2021, WE PURCHASE THAT PROPERTY, AND WE APPLY FOR PERMIT TO BUILD MAIN HOME AND A GUEST HOUSE.
FROM THE BEGINNING, WE FOLLOW ALL THE STEPS AND WE BUILD EVERYTHING IN COMPLIANCE WITH ALL CURRENT ZONES, INCLUDING ANY BUILDING PLANS, AND SO ON.
WE APPLY FOR TWO ADDRESSES, AND WE GOT TWO ADDRESSES OF THOSE PROPERTIES.
THE ONE ON THE NORTH IS ON THE JUNIPER LOOP, SOUTH IS ON THE KAIBAB ROAD.
AS YOU CAN SEE, WE HAVE TWO INDEPENDENT DRIVEWAYS THAT YOU CAN GET ACCESS TO THE PROPERTY USING TWO WELL DRIVE CARS.
WE HAVE TWO SEPARATE WATER METERS, WE ARE LEGALLY CONNECTED TO THE WATER, SO WE CAN USE THE WATER AS MUCH AS WE WANT AS ANY OTHER NEIGHBOR IN THAT PARK.
WE HAVE TWO INDEPENDENT ELECTRIC METERS FOR BOTH HOMES, AND WE HAVE COMPLETELY TWO INDEPENDENT SEWER SYSTEM INSTALLED.
AS A RESULT, WE RECEIVED TWO CERTIFICATES OF OCCUPANCIES FOR THOSE TWO HOMES.
BOTH HOMES HAVE BEEN BUILT 100% LEGAL.
AS WAS ALSO MENTIONED, WE ARE PROBABLY ONE OF THE BIGGEST PARK IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
THERE IS NOT A SINGLE ONE LOT IN THIS ENTIRE NEIGHBORHOOD THAT HAS TWO ACRES, SO WE ARE BY FAR PROBABLY ONE OF THE BIGGEST IN THE ENTIRE NEIGHBORHOOD.
MAYBE YOU JUST SWITCHED BACK. IN DECEMBER 2023, WE MET WITH MR. OLSON FROM PLANNING AND ZONING DEPARTMENT AND REQUESTED TO SPLIT OUR PARCEL FOLLOWING THIS ZONING ORDINANCE, THE 546 POINT C, F, AND THIS WAS ACTUALLY NOT PRESENTED DURING LAST MONTH MEETING.
WE FAILED TO PRESENT IT AND I BELIEVE THAT ONE OF THE RESULTS WAS WHAT IT WAS.
ACCORDING TO THIS ORDINANCE, AN APPLICATION TO SPLIT OF OUR PARCEL SHALL BE APPROVED BY THE COUNTY AFTER WE SIGN A LETTER STATING WE WILL NOT SEEK ANY MORE BUILDING PERMITS FROM THE COUNTY, AND MR. OLSON, CURRENTLY WE CANNOT BUILD ANY MORE LIVABLE STRUCTURES.
EVEN AFTER YOUR APPROVAL, WE STILL WILL NOT BE ABLE TO BUILD ANY MORE STRUCTURE BECAUSE WE MAX OUT.
THEREFORE, WE HAD NO OBJECTIONS TO SIGN SUCH A LETTER THAT WE WILL NOT BUILD ANY MORE STRUCTURES BECAUSE WE ACTUALLY CANNOT DO THAT ANYWAY, AND PROCEED TO THE SPLIT OF OUR PARCEL LEGALLY PER THE QUOTED ORDINANCE WITHOUT ANY HEARING AND WITHOUT HAVING ANY NEIGHBORS INVOLVED.
DURING THAT MEETING, DECEMBER '23, MR. OLSON INFORMED US THAT EVEN THOUGH WE CAN SPLIT THE PARCEL TODAY, AND WE'LL BE IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE ZONING ORDINANCE, AND WE CAN ACHIEVE EXACTLY WHAT WE WANT.
FOR EXAMPLE, WE CAN EASILY SELL THE PARCEL.
THAT'S WHAT WAS INCLUDED IN OUR MEETING, THAT IT IS WORTH TO GO AND SHOW GOOD FAITH IN FRONT OF THE COMMITTEE MEMBERS AND BOARD OF SUPERVISORS TO FOLLOW THAT PROCEDURE.
EVEN THOUGH WE CAN DO IT TODAY, WE CAN SPLIT THE PARCEL, WE CAN ACHIEVE EXACTLY WHAT WE WANT.
IT MAKES SENSE. THEREFORE, WE DECIDE TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS HEARING PROCESS.
THE ONLY ONE MAIN REASON WE HAD IT FROM THE BEGINNING, INCLUDING 2023 IS THE REASON FOR OUR REQUEST WAS AND STILL IS THAT FACT THAT WE WOULD LIKE TO HAVE MARKETABLE PROPERTY WITHOUT CREATING ANY ISSUES IN THE FUTURE FOR THIS BOARD AND FOR ANY FUTURE BUYERS.
THIS WAS AND ALWAYS WAS THE PRIMARY REASON.
THERE WAS ANOTHER REASONS THAT WE HAD WAS NOT THE PRIMARY REASONS.
WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT IF WE SPLIT IT,
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SOUNDS LIKE A GREAT OPPORTUNITY TO CREATE MORE AFFORDABLE HOUSING FOR SOMEBODY ELSE.THEY DON'T WANT TO BUY, FOR EXAMPLE, ONE OF THE PROPERTIES VERSUS TWO.
ALSO, WE HAD SOME INSURANCE ISSUES, WHICH WAS BROUGHT UP DURING THE MEETING.
LUCKY ENOUGH FOR US, IT'S ACTUALLY VERY DIFFICULT NEIGHBORHOOD BECAUSE OF THE FIRE ISSUES, SO IT'S VERY DIFFICULT TO GET INSURANCE.
WE HAVE PROBLEMS, AND THAT'S WHAT WE PRESENTED LAST TIME, AND THAT WAS OUR MISTAKE.
WE DIDN'T PRESENT ANYTHING WHAT YOU SEE TODAY, [LAUGHTER] SO WE RESOLVE THIS ISSUE.
GOOD FOR US WHEN IT COMES TO THE INSURANCE.
>> MOVING ON. SECOND, I'M JUST LISTING OUT THE MAIN REASON WHY WE'RE REALLY DOING IT.
WE DON'T WANT TO HAVE ANY ISSUES FOR YOU GUYS IN THE FUTURE IF SOMEBODY BUYS THIS PROPERTY.
LET ME TALK BRIEFLY ABOUT OPPOSITION.
FIRST OF ALL, WE BELIEVE IT IS IMPORTANT TO ALLOW EVERYBODY INVOLVED TO PROVIDE THEIR FEEDBACK.
WE ARE VERY GLAD THAT NEIGHBORS WERE ABLE TO FREELY SPEAK SO WE CAN BETTER UNDERSTAND THEIR CONCERNS.
WE WANT TO GO VERY BRIEFLY TO THE CONCERNS WE HAVE.
MR. HOFF, WHO IS PROBABLY PRESENT HERE TODAY AND WILL BE SPEAKING AS WELL.
HE MENTIONED THERE WILL BE AN INCREASE IN DENSITY AFTER OUR SPLIT.
THEY WILL NOT, BECAUSE WE HAVE ALREADY TWO HOMES AFTER WE SPLIT IT, STILL, THERE WILL BE TWO HOMES.
WE WILL NOT BE ABLE TO ALLOW TO BUILD ANY MORE STRUCTURE. THAT'S IT.
WE DONE. SPLIT, TWO HOMES, NO SPLIT, STILL TWO HOMES.
WE DON'T REALLY CONSIDER THIS AS A VALID ARGUMENT.
THEN THERE WAS AN INDICATION THERE WILL BE MORE TRAFFIC IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
WE HAVE TWO HOMES, THEY HAVE BEEN ALREADY LEGALLY APPROVED BY THE COUNTY.
WE HAVE TWO CAR GARAGES, THEY GENERATE SPECIFIC TRAFFIC FLOW.
WE DON'T SPLIT IT, STILL IS THE SAME.
WE DON'T REALLY CONSIDER THIS A VALID ARGUMENT.
THIS HAS BEEN BROUGHT MULTIPLE TIMES BY THE NEIGHBORS.
WELL, WE ARE LEGALLY CONNECTED TO THE WATER.
WE ALREADY ARE USING THIS WATER IN BOTH HOMES AND WE HAVE TWO WATER METERS SO I HAVE NO IDEA HOW THE WATER USAGE WON'T BE AFFECTED IF WE ALREADY CAN USE THAT WATER AND WE ARE USING THAT WATER.
WE ALSO DON'T CONSIDER THIS AS A VALID ARGUMENT.
THERE WAS ONE VALID ARGUMENT THAT MR. HOFF BROUGHT UP, WHICH IS APPARENTLY THERE ARE SOME ATVS PARK ON THE PANDEOSA PARK ROAD, WHICH IS WAY FAR AWAY FROM OUR LOT.
I'M LIVING IN THIS PARK TOO, I HEAR THE NOISE OF THE ATVS. I UNDERSTAND THAT.
MORE THAN HAPPY TO TALK MAYBE TO PUBLIC DEPARTMENT, ROAD DEPARTMENT TRAFFIC AGING DEPARTMENT, SEE WHAT WE CAN DO TO PREVENT SUCH ATVS RUNNING THROUGH THE PARK.
HOWEVER, THIS HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH OUR SPLIT AT ALL.
>> I DON'T THINK WE NEED TO GO THROUGH A LOT OF THIS.
>> I JUST WANT TO MAKE A POINT.
>> I'M GOING TO HAVE SOME OTHER PEOPLE COME UP AND GIVE THEIR THOUGHTS ON THIS THING, AND I DON'T NEED TO HEAR A COMPLETE RUNDOWN ON EVERYBODY ELSE.
YOU HAVE ANYTHING ELSE YOU WANT TO SAY VERY QUICKLY?
>> YEAH, I JUST HAVE A FINAL ONE.
SO AGAIN, OUR MAIN PURPOSE IS TO AVOID ANY FUTURE ISSUES FOR THE BOARD AND FOR THE BUYER.
WE ARE VERY HIGHLY EDUCATED WITH PHD DEGREES, AND WE ALWAYS GO BY THE DATA.
TODAY, WE HEAR FROM CHAIRMAN BROWN AND DR. MICHELLE ABOUT STATISTICS AND DATA.
WE USE THE DATA, WE ANALYZE WHAT IS THE VALID CONCERN SO WILL PREVENT US TO DO SO.
WE HAVE NOT SEEN ANY SINGLE VALID CONCERN SO FAR.
THE ONLY ONE DIFFERENCE WILL BE WHAT YOU SEE ON THE MAP ON THE LEFT, WITHOUT SPLIT, ON THE RIGHT, THE GREEN LINE DATA SPLIT.
NO OTHER EFFECT TO ANYBODY IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD, IN THE COUNTY.
THANK YOU ALL, I ANSWER ALL THE QUESTIONS YOU HAVE.
>> I DON'T HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, THANK YOU.
>> ANYBODY ELSE WITH A QUESTION? NOT THAT I CAN SEE.
I'M GOING TO GO AHEAD AND GO ON FOR THE CITIZENS PARTICIPATION.
IF IT'S ALL RIGHT WITH YOU ALL.
MY FATHER BOUGHT THE LAND THAT WE LIVE ON NOW IN 1954.
WE STARTED CONSTRUCTION IN 1958, I WAS RAISED IN PONDEROSA PARK, ME AND MY BROTHERS.
SEVERAL THINGS THAT I WANT TO ADDRESS JUST INDIVIDUALLY.
I NEVER SAID THE THINGS THAT MR. KUZNICK ALLEGED, BUT TO BE SPECIFIC.
TO GET BACK TO THE WATER AND THE SEWAGE PROBLEM, 16 YEARS AGO, WE HAD, AS WE DID EVERY YEAR, WE HAVE OUR WATER TESTED OUT OF THE WELL, AND AT THE POINT OF 16 YEARS AGO,
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IT CAME BACK THE RESULTS WERE NOT RECOMMENDED FOR HUMAN CONSUMPTION.THIS WAS DUE TO FECAL BACTERIA.
WE DISCONTINUED OBVIOUSLY USING THE WELL BUT IT WAS DETERMINED TO BE FROM THE QUANTITY OF SEPTIC TANKS UPSTREAM FROM INDIAN CREEK FROM OUR HOUSE.
WE HAVE A RATHER LARGE LOT, BUT WE RELOCATED AND MOVED IT UP ANYWAY, IF I WANT TO MIX A BUCKET OF CEMENT, I'LL GET WATER OUT OF THAT WELL.
THAT'S ALL YOU CAN USE IT FOR.
RESIDENTIAL DENSITY, THAT'S WHAT IS IT AT STAKE HERE? I NEVER SAID OR THOUGHT THAT IF MR. KUZNICK IS GRANTED WHAT HE WANTS, THAT IS GOING TO HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH RESIDENTIAL DENSITY.
BUT IT MIGHT HAVE SOMETHING TO DO WITH THE FACT THAT MYSELF, MAYBE, OR THIS NEIGHBOR OVER HERE OR THIS NEIGHBOR OVER HERE, AND I KNOW YOU'RE PROBABLY NOT A NEIGHBOR.
BUT ANYBODY CAN APPLY THEN FOR WHAT MR. KUZNICK IS APPLYING FOR AND IF IT IS, IN FACT DENIED AT THE VERY INITIAL LEVEL OF APPELLATE ACTION, AND IT IS DETERMINED THAT IT'S APPLES WITH APPLES.
IN OTHER WORDS, THE PERSON WHO'S APPLYING FOR THAT IS NOT TRYING TO BUILD A SEVEN STORY MOTEL ON IT, BUT HE WANTS TO DO THE SAME THING MR. KUZNICK WANTS TO DO.
THAT DENIAL OR THE ACCEPTANCE OF THAT, IF YOU ACCEPT THIS TODAY, WOULD BE REVERSED, BECAUSE OF PRECEDENT, YOU CAN'T CONSTITUTIONALLY PREVENT ONE PERSON FROM DOING SOMETHING WHO'S BEEN APPROVED AND LICENSED AND TELL SOMEONE ELSE, YOU CANNOT DO THAT.
AT THAT POINT, ANYBODY, AND IN THE PAST, A LOT OF PEOPLE HAVE WANTED TO SUBDIVIDE THEIR LAND AND RENT IT OUT, SELL IT, DO WHATEVER.
THAT'S WHAT'S GOING TO GROW EXPONENTIALLY, NOT UPON THE COMPLETION OF WHAT MR. KUZNICK WANTS TO DO.
WHAT I SAID ABOUT THE VEHICLES HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH ATVS, BUT BETWEEN ADDRESS NUMBER 3401-3207 IT'S ABOUT 150 YARDS.
SOMETIMES YOU DRIVE OUT ON PONDEROSA ROAD, WHICH IS PAVED, AND THERE'S PEOPLE, THAT LIVE THEY JUST HAVEN'T GONE TO WORK YET.
THERE ARE SOMETIMES THREE OR FOUR VEHICLES THAT ARE PARKED WITH THE RIGHT SIDE TIRES AND WHEELS ON THE DIRT AND LEFT SIDE ON THE PAVEMENT.
THESE PEOPLE BY 8:00, THEY'VE GONE TO WORK, THEY'RE DOING THERE'S NOTHING THEY CAN DO ABOUT THAT.
THEY'RE TRYING TO GO TO WORK AND PAY THE BILLS AND EARN SOME MONEY AND MAKE A LIVING BUT THERE'S NOTHING ELSE THEY CAN DO.
THEY CAN'T PARK IN THE PAST THERE'S BEEN SO MANY SUBDIVIDINGS IN THAT ONE AREA THAT THERE'S THERE'S NOT ENOUGH ROOM TO PARK A VEHICLE.
THAT'S THE PART THAT WILL EXPONENTIALLY GROW, SIMPLY BECAUSE OF THIS ACTION IF HE'S APPROVED TO DO THIS.
NOW, YOU COULD SAY, WELL, THERE'S BEEN SUBDIVIDINGS THAT HAVE ALREADY OCCURRED.
I'VE SEEN THAT OVER THE YEARS I'VE LIVED THERE LONG.
I MEAN, WE'VE OWNED THE HOME A LONG TIME.
BUT THOSE SUBDIVIDINGS, WERE NOT AS A RESULT OF REZONING.
SOMEONE JUST GRANTED IT AND SAID, IT WAS OKAY AND IT REALLY IT DOESN'T MATTER BECAUSE THAT'S IN THE PAST, YOU CAN'T UNDO IT.
BUT WHAT WE CAN DO IS PREVENT FROM DOING SOMETHING THAT IS EXPONENTIALLY GOING TO GET WORSE AS TIME GOES ON.
THE OTHER THING, AND I KNOW I DIDN'T REALIZE AT THE VERY BEGINNING OF THE SAID, THIS IS GROOM CREEK, THIS IS NOT PONDEROSA PARK.
I WOULD ASK MR. KUZNICK, HE SAID, HE HAS TWO WATER SOURCES.
WHAT THOSE WATER SOURCES COME FROM PPD, WID PONDEROSA PARK WATER IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT? NO GROOM CREEK. BUT MR. KUZNICK HOUSE, THIS IS A VERY LARGE RAVINE, THIS IS THE FAR WEST SIDE OF PONDEROSA PARK AND THE EAST SIDE.
BUT BECAUSE IT'S EVERYTHING IT'S A SEPTIC SYSTEM, IT ALL FLOWS DOWN INTO HILL, WHICH IS PART OF ONE OF THE REASONS I TOLD YOU THAT WE GOT THAT REPORT FROM IT AND SO WE HAD TO DIG ANOTHER WELL.
BUT THAT'S THE PART THAT'S NOT GOING TO GET ANY BETTER.
IF THIS ACTION THEN THIS PRECEDENT IS SET,
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ALLOWING TO DO THIS, PEOPLE ARE GOING TO LOOK AT THAT AND GO, WHY WOULD YOU NOT? THAT'S WHY I'M RESPECTFULLY ASKING THAT YOU DENY THIS.I AM VEHEMENTLY OPPOSED TO IT.
>> THANK YOU, MR. HOFF. APPRECIATE THAT.
>> GOOD MORNING, MR. CHAIRMAN.
I'M A RESIDENT OF PONDEROSA PARK.
I'M ACTUALLY WITHIN THE THOUSAND OF DISTRICT, AND JUST FOR THE RECORD, I NEVER GOT ANY NOTICES OF EITHER OF MY PROPERTIES.
HOWEVER, I AM AWARE OF WHAT'S GOING ON.
AND, YOU KNOW, WE'RE NATIONAL LAWS.
THAT'S HOW THIS COUNTRY OPERATES AS HOW WE'RE SUPPOSED TO DO THINGS.
THE LAW HERE SAYS TWO ACRE MINIMUM.
AND YES, IT WAS PREVIOUSLY SMALLER THAN THAT.
THERE'S VIRTUALLY NOBODY THAT WAS THERE BEFORE THAT.
SO WE ALL BOUGHT IN ON TWO ACRE MINIMUM BECAUSE WE WANTED TO BE THAT WAY.
ARE THERE LOTS OF SMALL CHOPPED UP PROPERTIES? ABSOLUTELY, THERE ARE DRIVE THROUGH NEIGHBORHOOD. YOU'LL SEE IT.
THAT'S WHY WE WANT IT THE WAY IT TO BE.
SO WHEN WE TALK ABOUT WHAT'S GOING ON HERE, WE HAVE A DEVELOPER, AND IT'S NOT THE FIRST PROJECT IN THIS PARK, AND HE WANTS TO DEVELOP.
AND IT'S INTERESTING BECAUSE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT AFFORDABLE HOUSING NOW, WHICH IS A NEW ARGUMENT, BY THE WAY, THE PLANNING AND ZONING BOARD DIDN'T HEAR THAT ONE.
LITTLE BEAR CABINS HOLD LAST YEAR FOR $500,000, AND IT'S 960 SQUARE FEET.
YEAH, SO MUCH FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
PEOPLE CAN'T AFFORD TO BUY ANYTHING THERE BECAUSE THE PRICES ARE JUST TOO HIGH.
THERE'S TOO LITTLE AND PEOPLE WANT TOO MUCH. THERE YOU GO.
WELL, MORE POWER TO PEOPLE THAT OWN THE LAND WANT TO SELL IT, THAT'S FINE.
BUT LET'S AT LEAST BE HONEST ABOUT IT.
THAT'S NOT EXACT. THAT'S NOT WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN AT ALL.
FURTHERMORE, IN THE WHOLE PROCESS HERE, WHAT WAS ADMITTED BEFORE PLANNING AND ZONING WAS THAT PRIOR TO DEVELOPING, THE APPLICANT ASKED TO SUBDIVIDE AND WAS TOLD YOU CAN'T DO IT.
DOESN'T MEET THE MINIMUMS. SO HE WAS ALLOWED TO DO WHAT HE'S DONE, AND THAT'S FINE. THAT'S WHAT YOU DID.
AND IN FRONT OF PLAN OF ZONING, ONE OF THE OBJECTIONS THAT WAS RAISED WAS, WELL, YOU GOT WHAT YOU ASKED FOR, WHY ARE WE BACK NOW? AND THEN THE EXCUSE WAS THE INSURANCE, THAT'S NOT QUITE TRUE EITHER, BECAUSE ANYBODY WHO OWNS THE PROPERTY KNOWS THAT IT'S EASIER TO INSURE YOUR GUEST HOUSE AND INSURE A SECOND PROPERTY.
AND BY THE WAY, AT THE MOMENT, WE'RE IN THE WORST FIRE DISTRICT IN THE STATE.
I KNOW BECAUSE WE'VE HAD TROUBLE GETTING INSURANCE ON ALL OF OUR PROPERTIES UP THERE.
NOBODY WILL WRITE A POLICY RIGHT NOW.
AND I MEAN NOBODY. SO WHEN IT COMES TO THE INSURANCE THING, A, IT'S NOT QUITE TRUE AND B, THAT'S NOT THE JOB OF THE COUNTY TO MAKE SURE THAT WE EACH GET INSURANCE.
SO THAT'S SOMETHING THAT ALSO WAS RAISED BY PLANNING ZONING SAID THAT THAT'S NOT OUR JOB.
WE DON'T WORRY ABOUT THAT. THAT'S WHAT YOU WORRY ABOUT.
LIKE ANY HOMEOWNER, I GOT TO DEAL WITH MY PROBLEMS, AND SO DOES EVERYBODY ELSE.
SO WHEN WE GET INTO THIS WHOLE NOTION OF IN GOOD FAITH, WELL, GOOD FAITH AND FAIR DEALING IS SOMETHING THAT THE ARIZONA COURTS READ INTO EVERYTHING.
I KNOW, I DEAL WITH THAT ON A REGULAR BASIS.
YOU CAN'T WRITE IT OUT, YOU CAN'T WALK AWAY FROM IT.
YOUR COUNSEL WILL CONFIRM THAT.
SO WHEN WE TALK ABOUT GOOD FAITH, WHAT WAS PRESENTED TO PLAN AND ZONING WHAT'S BEING PRESENTED TODAY IS A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT.
THE 546 ACT THAT WASN'T MENTIONED, AND IT MAY BE TRUE, AND IT MAY BE A ROUTE THEY CAN TAKE.
AND IF THEY CAN AND IT'S WITHIN LAW, SO BE IT.
BUT BEFORE THIS BOARD THIS MORNING IS TO SAY, WE'RE BEING ASKED TO OVERTURN WHAT PLAN OF ZONING, YOUR EXPERTS SAID, NO, WE DON'T AGREE WITH.
AND THE CONCERN AND THAT WE HAVE A GOOD NUMBER OF PEOPLE HERE AND A GOOD NUMBER OF PEOPLE THAT WEREN'T ABLE TO MAKE THAT THIS MORNING, WHO DON'T WANT THIS TO GO FORWARD THIS WAY.
THE CONCERN IS THAT WE DO SAY, HEY, IT'S OKAY.
WE'LL JUST DISREGARD THE RULES.
WE TELL YOU ONE THING, WE'LL DO SOMETHING ELSE.
I HAVE TO DO IS ASK US OR FIND A SNEAKY WAY AROUND IT.
WELL, THAT'S THE DEVELOPER GAME, FIND A SNEAKY WAY AROUND IT.
AND IT HAPPENS, AND I'M NOT TELLING YOU WE'RE GOING TO FIX IT OR NOT, BUT WE CERTAINLY DON'T NEED TO ALLOW IT WHEN THERE'S NO GOOD REASON FOR IT.
BE IF WE LOOK AT WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD,
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YES, IT'S A HOUSE AND A GUEST HOUSE RIGHT NOW.BY THE WAY, HE DOESN'T LIVE UP HERE.
HE COMES UP UPON OCCASION, BUT RARELY.
BUT IF WE MAKE INTO SEPARATE PROPERTIES AND WE SELL IT, WHICH IS OBVIOUSLY THE GOAL.
NOW WE HAVE TWO SEPARATE FAMILIES AND THEIR FRIENDS AND THEIR GUESTS AND ALL THEIR CARS AND ALL THE THINGS THAT COME WITH, AND THAT'S FINE, EXCEPT THAT WE NOW HAVE INCREASED THAT MUCH MORE DENSITY IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
SO THE IMPACT, THOSE OF US ARE HERE, IT'S A BIG IMPACT BECAUSE THESE AREN'T WIDE STREETS, THESE ARE NARROW STREETS.
ALL THAT STUFF ADDS UP, AND THAT'S EXACTLY WHY WE ALL MOVED UP THERE TO SAY, BECAUSE THIS IS WHAT THE ZONING IS, WE DON'T WANT TO HAVE IT MORE DENSITY.
DOWNTOWN PHOENIX, HIGH RISE, I'D LIVE DOWN THERE, BUT I DON'T.
AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO TALK ABOUT.
OTHER THING, AND WE HAVE ACTUALLY THE PRIOR HEAD OF THE WATER BOARD HERE, I BELIEVE, IS GOING TO SPEAK THIS MORNING, I'LL LET HER TALK TO THE WATER ISSUES.
WE USE 7 MILLION GALLONS OF WATER LAST YEAR, AS IT STANDS.
THERE'S A POINT AT WHICH WE RUN OUT, AND THAT'S TRUE OF ALL THE RESOURCES.
BUT THE BIGGEST ISSUE THAT I SEE HERE IS THAT PARTICULARLY IN LIGHT OF THE GOOD FAITH FAIR DEALING THING THAT SEEMS TO BE JUST SLIDING IN DOWN, MAGICALLY SOMEHOW.
WHAT YOU DO THIS MORNING SENDS A MESSAGE.
WE EITHER FOLLOW THE RULES THAT WE PUT IN PLACE.
FOR NOW WE DON'T REALLY HAVE TO FOLLOW THE RULES WE PUT IN PLACE.
EVERYBODY ELSE LOOKS AT THAT AND SAYS, WELL, IF THEY DIDN'T HAVE TO FOLLOW THE RULES, I DON'T HAVE TO FOLLOW RULES.
IF THE 546 APPROACH WORKS, WELL, IF THAT'S IN THE LAW, THEN THAT'S WHAT IT IS.
BUT FOR THE BOARD TO SAY, WE'RE GOING TO APPROVE IT, EVEN THOUGH OUR EXPERTS HAVE TOLD US DON'T APPROVE IT, AND EVEN THOUGH YOU DON'T CONFORM, THAT'S SENDING THE WRONG MESSAGE.
THAT'S TELLING EVERYBODY, YEAH, DO WHATEVER YOU WANT TO DO.
IT DOESN'T REALLY MATTER, AND WE'LL JUST LET IT GO.
SOMEHOW, WE'LL FIND A WAY TO FIX IT.
BACK, WE'LL HAVE ONE OF OUR COUNTY EMPLOYEES HELP TO TRY AND FOR YOUR WAY AROUND IT TO FIX IT.
WHAT DOES THAT TELL THE PEOPLE? I DON'T THINK THAT'S A PLACE WE WANT TO LIVE IN.
SO IT WILL OPEN THE FLOODGATE.
PARTICULARLY WITH SOME OF THE OTHER THINGS THAT HAVE BEEN GOING ON, NOT NECESSARILY IN THIS COUNTY, BUT IN THIS STATE.
IT'S JUST A BIG RED FLAG SAYING, HERE WE GO.
LET'S ALL RUSH TO SAY WE CAN TRIPLE AND QUADRUPLE DENSITY EVERYWHERE. IS IT GOING TO BE AFFORDABLE? IT SOUNDS LOVELY.
BUT LITTLE BERRY CABIN TELLS A DIFFERENT STORY.
IT'S A BEDROOM, A KITCHEN, AND ALL IN ONE ROOM, THAT'S IT.
THAT'S ALL IT WAS, AND THAT WAS $500,000.
I DON'T THINK IT'S A GOOD IDEA TO GO DOWN THE ROUTE, AND I CERTAINLY DON'T THINK IT'S A GOOD IDEA TO SAY EVEN THOUGH WE HAVE RULES, WE'RE GOING TO TELL YOU WHY WE DON'T HAVE TO FOLLOW THE RULES TODAY. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.
>> TERRY [INAUDIBLE] I THINK IT IS.
I'M NOT SURE I'M PRONOUNCING THAT RIGHT.
>> I DON'T SPEAK, BUT SHE AND I GO FIRST THAT'S OKAY.
>> IF YOU WANT TO SPEAK FOR HER, IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE DOING?
>> WE'RE SPEAKING DIFFERENTLY, BUT I THINK MINUS FROM THE HEART VERSUS MORE STUFF.
>> SHE JUST WANTS TO GO FIRST.
>> YEAH, SHE WANTS TO GO FIRST.
>> WHOEVER WANTS TO GO FIRST, JUST LET ME KNOW WHO YOU ARE.
>> I WOULD ASK YOU THAT SINCE WE'VE HEARD QUITE A BIT ALREADY, IF YOU'VE GOT ANYTHING NEW TO OFFER, WE'D LIKE TO HEAR THAT.
IF YOU JUST AGREE WITH EVERYTHING THAT'S BEEN SAID BEFORE, JUST SAY, I AGREE WITH THE PREVIOUS SPEAKERS.
>> MY NAME IS MARY MYERS, WE HAVE HAD PROPERTY IN PONDEROSA PARK FOR 30 YEARS.
WE HAVE BEEN LIVING THERE FULL TIME SINCE 2008, SO THAT'S 16 YEARS AND I HAVE SPENT 12 YEARS ON THE WATER BOARD AT PONDEROSA PARK WATER IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT, AND THE LAST TIME I WAS THERE, I WAS CHAIRMAN OF THE BOARD.
I'M REALLY CONCERNED ABOUT THE WATER.
I CAN REMEMBER IN THE EARLY YEARS, WE HAD TO TRUCK IN WATER BECAUSE WITH THE DROUGHT THAT WE HAVE IN ARIZONA, WE HAVE A LOT OF LOW WATER ISSUES.
WHEN WE FIRST CAME, MOST OF PONDEROSA PARK WAS WEEKEND RESIDENTS, VERY FEW YEAR ROUND RESIDENTS.
THAT HAS CHANGED DRAMATICALLY.
WE ARE NOW AT PROBABLY ALMOST 40-50% YEAR ROUND RESIDENCE, WHICH AFFECTS THE WATER USAGE.
THE LAST WELL WE BUILT WAS PROBABLY ABOUT 15 YEARS AGO,
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AND WE HAVE FIVE WELLS, BUT TWO OF THEM ARE NOT BEING USED.ONE OF THEM HAS GAS ISSUES, AND ANOTHER ONE IS AT SO LOW LEVELS, IT DOESN'T REGENERATE OFTEN ENOUGH.
THE OTHER WATER ISSUE THAT BOTHERS ME THE MOST IS THAT WE HAVE TO MAKE OUR WATER COMPANY AND WE HAVE 290 RESIDENTS USING THAT WATER SOME.
THERE ARE A FEW PEOPLE THAT HAVE THEIR OWN WELLS LIKE MR. HOFF.
BUT MOST OF THE RESIDENTS USE THE WATER COMPANY, WHICH IS TREATED, BUT THE POINT IS THAT WE HAVE NO SAY WITH THE PUBLIC THAT USES IT LIKE THE FIRE DEPARTMENT AND THE FOREST SERVICE.
THEY HAVE FREE RAIN TO OUR WELL'S WATER WHENEVER THEY NEED IT FOR FIRE ISSUES AND WE HAVE HAD TWO HOUSES BURNED TO THE GROUND IN THE LAST TWO YEARS.
THE PEOPLE THAT KEEP COMING IN ARE NOT WEEKEND RESIDENTS, THEY'RE COMING IN TO LIVE THERE FULL TIME.
THEY'RE USING MORE WATER THAN THEY USED TO USE WHEN IT WAS JUST WEEKENDERS.
THE WATER IS A LIMITED SOURCE.
IT ISN'T LIKE THE CHINO VALLEY AQUIFER.
WE HAVE BUILT OUR OWN WELL SYSTEM BUT THEY.
>> LET ME BRING THIS TO A POINT OF CONTENTION, YOU'RE IN THE WATER DISTRICT AND YOU'RE THE DISTRICT REPRESENTATIVE FOR THEIR BOARD, THEREFORE, YOU ARE A LEGAL ENTITY.
WE ARE NOT GOING TO SAY ANYTHING ABOUT YOUR WATER.
NOTHING. WE CAN'T EVEN USE THAT REALLY TO MAKE A DECISION.
HOWEVER, LET ME ASK YOU A SECOND QUESTION.
>> DO YOU HAVE A SEPTIC SEWER SYSTEM?
>> NO SEWER. EVERYBODY IS SEPTIC.
>> WATER IS REALLY YOU CAN TALK ALL DAY LONG, BUT REALLY IT'S NOT GOING TO MAKE ANY DIFFERENCE.
>> WELL, WHEN WE HAVE TO GIVE IT AWAY AND WE HAVE TO TRUCK IT IN, IT MAKES A BIG DIFFERENCE.
>> I AGREE I DON'T WANT TO HAVE MORE PEOPLE.
>> THESE PEOPLE HAVE A RIGHT TO LIVE ON THEIR PROPERTY.
>> THAT'S ONE ARGUMENT THAT DOESN'T WASH. YOU HAVE A WATER DISTRICT, YOU ARE THERE TO MANAGE THE WATER IN THAT DISTRICT.
>> IF YOU NEED TO OPEN UP AND OR DRILL MORE HOLES IN THE GROUND, THAT'S UP TO YOU, YOUR DISTRICT, NOT US.
>> I DO AGREE THAT I DON'T THINK IT'S A GOOD IDEA TO SET A PRECEDENT BECAUSE IF YOU DO IT ONCE, IT'LL HAPPEN AGAIN.
>> THE PEOPLE THAT LIVE THERE NOW AND ARE ON YOUR WATER DISTRICT ARE THE PRECEDENT.
>> ANY OTHER QUESTION? MS. MYERS?.
I CAN'T READ YOUR HANDWRITING.
>> TERRY HUB. MY HUSBAND AND I BOUGHT OUR PROPERTY IN PONDEROSA PARK IN '99, AND WE HAVE SEEN SOME GROWTH, BUT NOT LIKE ALL OF A SUDDEN WE'RE FINDING GREAT LITTLE PIECES OF PROPERTY THAT NOW HUGE THINGS ARE BEING BUILT THERE.
WE LIVE THERE BECAUSE WE'RE THE LAST TURN OFF BEFORE YOU START GOING DOWN THE HILL INTO NILE, WE ARE IN THE FOREST.
IT'S NOT ALWAYS THE EASIEST PLACE TO LIVE, BUT WE'RE CHOOSING TO LIVE THERE BECAUSE THAT'S WHERE WE WANT TO BE.
NOT ONLY ARE WE THERE BECAUSE OF THE FOREST, THE COMMUNITY THAT IS THERE.
WE KNOW OUR NEIGHBORS, WE'RE INVOLVED, BUT ALL OF A SUDDEN THINGS ARE STARTING TO HAPPEN.
IF A CUTE LITTLE PIECE OF PROPERTY WE'RE HEAR ALL OF A SUDDEN GETS SNATCHED UP AND MORE THINGS ARE BEING BUILT, THE COMMUNITY HAS CHANGED.
BUT AGAIN, THE SENSE OF WHO WE ARE, WHY WE'RE THERE, SPLITTING PROPERTY, SPLITTING HAIRS, PUTTING PLACES THAT ARE JUST STRESSING THE ENVIRONMENT, WHAT WE DO HAVE, WE HAVE A NUMBER OF US WHO WERE NOT ABLE TO COME TODAY WHO ARE SAYING, PLEASE DON'T LET THIS HAPPEN.
IT'S OUR HOME AND WE DON'T WANT IT TO
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BE TURNED INTO MORE AND MORE DEVELOPMENT. IT'S OUR HOME.>> MR. PARKER, DO YOU WISH TO SPEAK? I HAVE A PERSON WHO SAYS I DO NOT WISH TO SPEAK, BUT I AM OPPOSED TO THIS PARTICULAR ISSUE.
IS TOM OUT THERE? YOU DON'T WANT TO SPEAK AT THIS TIME, TOM?
I HAVE A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS, IF YOU DON'T MIND.
I'VE ALREADY HAD A COUPLE OF THEM DISCUSSED.
WE HAVE A WATER SYSTEM THAT'S IN A DISTRICT, AM I CORRECT?
>> OKAY. WE DON'T HAVE ANY SAY SO ABOUT WATER TO BEGIN WITH THAT.
>> MOVING ON TO THE SEPTIC SIDE OF IT, IS THERE SEPTIC AVAILABLE IN THAT AREA OR NOT?
>> IT JUST DEPENDS ON THE TYPE OF SOIL THAT EACH PERSON HAS ON THEIR PROPERTY.
YOU CAN HAVE A PROPERTY THAT HAS FANTASTIC SOIL ABSORPTION AT THAT POINT, SO YOU'RE LOOKING AT A SEPTIC SYSTEM OR ALTERNATIVE SEPTIC SYSTEM.
>> THERE'S ABSOLUTELY NO SEWERS IN THIS AREA.
>> THIRD QUESTION. WHOSE ROAD IS IT?
>> THAT IS A COUNTY MAINTAINED ROAD.
>> COUNTY MAINTAINED ROAD, SO IT'S BASICALLY A ROAD WE TOOK OVER AND WE MAINTAINED.
>> THEY ARE NARROW, BUT THEY'RE, LIKE I SAID, 1953.
>> THE WIDTH AND SIZE OF THE ROAD IS DETERMINED BY THE COUNTY BASED ON THE AMOUNT OF POPULATION IN THE AREA.
>> I COULDN'T SPEAK FOR PLANNING OR FOR PUBLIC WORKS TRANSPORTATION, BUT THAT SOUNDS CORRECT.
>> MR. CHAIR, I'D LIKE TO HEAR FROM MR. PETERSON.
>> CHAIRMAN BROWN AND THE SUPERVISORS.
[NOISE] MY NAME IS JIM PETERSON, AGAIN, REPRESENTING THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMITTEE.
WHEN THIS APPLICATION WAS BROUGHT TO US, THE PRIMARY REASON LISTED WAS THAT THEY WANTED TO SPLIT THE PROPERTY BECAUSE THEY WERE HAVING TROUBLE WITH GETTING INSURANCE ON THE SECOND PARCEL.
AND I THINK AT THAT POINT, THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMITTEE BECAME DISTRACTED BY THE ISSUES THAT RAISED.
[NOISE] I THINK THE FINAL VOTE WAS 8-1 AS FAR AS OPPOSING THIS.
BUT I HAVE TO ADMIT I WAS THE ONE WHO, FELT THAT IT WAS AN APPROPRIATE CHANGE.
THE REST OF THE COMMITTEE, I THINK WAS VERY CONCERNED ABOUT THE PUBLIC INPUT AND WANTED TO EXPRESS THAT TO YOU.
BUT IN MY OPINION, THE PROPERTY ALREADY HAS TWO HOUSES ON IT.
IT FITS WITHIN THE PARAMETERS OF THE LOT SIZE THAT IS APPROPRIATE, AND IT HAS NO IMPACT ON ADDITIONAL TRAFFIC.
IT HAS NO IMPACT ON THE COMMUNITY AS FAR AS CHANGING THE STYLE OF THE COMMUNITY OR ANY OF THE ISSUES THAT WE WERE AS A PLANNING AND ZONING COMMITTEE WERE USING TO JUSTIFY WHETHER OR NOT RECOMMENDING THIS TO YOU OR NOT.
THE COMMITTEE DECIDED TO NOT RECOMMEND IT TO YOU, EVEN THOUGH I DISAGREED WITH THAT.
I THINK IT WAS MOSTLY EMOTIONAL RATIONALE AND TRYING TO RELATE TO THE MEMBERS OF THE COMMUNITY THAT WERE OPPOSED TO IT.
>> THE MENTION WAS, THESE ARE AT A TWO ACRE MINIMUM.
IS THAT CORRECT, TWO ACRE MINIMUM?
>> THAT'S A QUESTION I CAN ANSWER.
>> AGAIN, ORIGINALLY, 18,000 SQUARE FOOT MINIMUM.
1982, THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS SAID FOR AN ENTIRE SWATH OF YAVAPAI COUNTY, TWO ACRE MINIMUM, WHETHER IT DIDN'T MEET IT OR NOT.
NONE OF THE PARCELS IN HERE MEET THAT TWO ACRE MINIMUM.
>> NONE OF THE PARCELS MEET A TWO ACRE MINIMUM.
>> HAVE WE SPLIT THESE LOTS BEFORE?
>> WE HAVE NOT. THERE HAVE BEEN UNFORTUNATELY SPLITS THAT WERE DONE AFTER 1982, THAT DID NOT GO THROUGH THE MLD, THE MINOR LAND DIVISION PROCESS, WHICH WOULD HAVE AGAIN, BEEN DENIED, BUT AGAIN,
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THEY CAN APPLY FOR IT.THEY CAN APPLY FOR IT WITH AND THEN GO DOWN AND HAVE IT RECORDED.
THERE'S PROPERTIES IN THERE THAT ARE 6,000 SQUARE FEET.
OUR MINIMUM SIZE PROPERTY IS 7500.
I'VE SEEN PROPERTIES IN THERE ALMOST AT 4,000 WITH A HOME ON IT.
AGAIN, UNFORTUNATELY, DIDN'T GO THROUGH THE PROCESS THAT WE'RE HERE TODAY.
>> WELL, I HAD HEARD SOMEONE SAY THAT THE LOTS ARE AT A MINIMUM OF TWO ACRES.
>> THE REASON THEY MOVED THERE IS BECAUSE IT WAS THIS TWO ACRE SPACE.
I'M TRYING TO CONFIRM UP HERE TODAY, IN 2024, NOT 1982.
WHAT IS THE SITUATION THERE? ARE THEY TWO ACRES OR ARE THEY NOT TWO ACRES?
>> THE DENSITY DISTRICT PRO ORDINANCE STATES THIS AREA AS A TWO ACRE MINIMUM, EVEN THOUGH, AGAIN, THERE ARE MANY PLACES LIKE THAT MANY SUBDIVISIONS.
>> THEY'RE NOT CONFORMING TO THIS.
IF YOU MOVED HERE FOR THESE BIG WIDE TWO ACRE PROPERTIES, YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE LESS THAN A TWO ACRE PROPERTY THAT'S NOT CONFORMING TO THAT DENSITY DISTRICT.
>> THE PLANNING AND ZONING WAS EIGHT AGAINST IT AND ONE, IS THAT CORRECT?
>> MAYOR, JUST ONE OTHER THING.
THE COMMUNITY ALSO IS CONCERNED ABOUT THIS SETTING OF PRECEDENT.
YOU KNOW PLANNING AND ZONING DOES NOT SET PRECEDENTS FOR THESE REQUESTS.
WE WE REVIEW EACH ONE OF THEM ON AN INDIVIDUAL BASIS AND DETERMINE WHAT WE THINK IS APPROPRIATE TO RECOMMEND TO THE COUNCIL.
>> [OVERLAPPING] THANK YOU, MR. PETERSON. LET ME JUST SAY THAT I AGREE.
YOU DON'T HAVE THAT PREROGATIVE, BUT WE DO.
YOU HAVE TO LISTEN TO OUR NEIGHBORS.
WE CERTAINLY DON'T WANT TO SET A PRECEDENTS IN WHICH MANY MORE PEOPLE WILL SAY, WELL, NOW THAT THIS PROPERTY WAS ABLE TO DO THAT, I CAN DO THAT WITH MY PROPERTY AND THEN WE START GETTING MORE DENSITY.
I FEEL THAT AT THIS POINT IT HAS BEEN PRETTY WELL DECIDED BY THE COMMUNITY AND ALSO BY P&Z TO DENY THIS AND I MAKE A MOTION TO HELP DESIGN.
>> [OVERLAPPING] MOVE FORWARD. THE APPLICANT WOULD LIKE TO MAKE ONE MORE STATEMENT IF THAT'S POSSIBLE.
>> WELL, YOU MEAN A MOTION SOMEONE MAY [OVERLAPPING] SECOND.
>> LET THE APPLICANT COME UP ON DISCUSSION.
>> JUST FOR THE RECORD, WE ARE NOT DEVELOPERS, BY NO MEANS.
WE JUST DECIDED TO INVEST IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD BECAUSE WE LIKE IT.
WE ARE LIVING THERE QUITE A LOT.
WE WANT TO MOVE THERE FULL TIME AND RETIRED.
I UNDERSTAND THE COMMUNITY IS VERY TIGHT AND THERE'S QUITE A LOT OF NEIGHBORS TALKING ABOUT THAT AND OBJECTING HERE.
HOWEVER, AGAIN, FROM OUR PERSPECTIVE, WE BUILT VERY NICE HOMES TO MAKE SURE THAT THE COMMUNITY WILL NOT SUFFER BY PUTTING A TRAILER THERE, WHICH WE COULD.
THE ASPECT THAT WE DON'T CARE ABOUT THE COMMUNITY IS REALLY OFF.
WE ARE THERE FULL TIME AND WE CARE ABOUT THE COMMUNITY.
AGAIN, IT WAS MENTIONED THAT GOOD FAITH JUST CAME UP.
THAT'S NOT TRUE. IN DECEMBER, WE TALKED TO PLANNING.
WE ALREADY DISCUSSED THE OPTIONS WE HAVE.
WE JUST DIDN'T WANT TO GO THE OTHER PATH, KNOWING THAT WE CAN HAVE A GOOD FAITH AND PRESENT THE CASE AND MOVE THE FORMAL WAY OF SPLITTING IT INSTEAD OF SPLITTING IT ANYWAY.
SO IF THERE IS ANY ARGUMENT FROM THE NEIGHBORS THAT WE WILL SPLIT THIS PARCEL AND THEY DON'T WANT TO HAVE SPLIT WE WILL SPLIT IT.
BUT AGAIN, WE'RE HERE TO ASK NOBODY ELSE WILL BE IN FRONT OF THE COMMITTEE IN THE FUTURE TO ASKING, SOMEBODY SPLIT THIS, WAS EVERYTHING LEGAL? NOW, I DIDN'T KNOW THAT.
LET'S JUST SEE IF WE CAN DO SOMETHING ELSE OF THAT PROPERTY.
WE REALLY CARE ABOUT THE NEIGHBORHOODS.
YOU HEAR A LOT OF OBJECTIONS, BUT THEY WERE IN POSITIVE.
THERE WERE QUITE A LOT ACTUALLY NEIGHBORS THAT SENT OUR SUPPORT WHAT WE WANT TO DO.
THAT'S WHAT I WANT TO SAY A FINAL CLOSING.
AGAIN, I APPRECIATE YOUR TIME AND THIS DECISION. THANK YOU.
>>RESTATEMENT OF THE MOTION IS A MOTION TO DENY, AM I CORRECT?
THIS WOULD RESEND IT BACK AGAIN.
THAT'S WHERE ANY QUESTIONS, MR. GREGORY? MISS MICHAELS. OKAY. ALL IN FAVOR. AYE.
>> AYE. IT'S UNANIMOUS TO DENY.
>> THE MIC'S HERE. [OVERLAPPING]
LISTEN, I NEED ANOTHER BREAK I'M TOLD.
[LAUGHTER] COME BACK AT 25 OF ONE. YOU WANT TO HAVE LUNCH?
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>> YES. [INAUDIBLE]. [OVERLAPPING]
>> WELL, LET'S GO TO, NOT ADJOURNED, BUT IN RECESS UNTIL ONE O'CLOCK. THEY GIVE YOU PLENTY OF TIME. [OVERLAPPING]
>> THAT'S ONE O'CLOCK FOR THE FOLKS FROM THE BACK. [OVERLAPPING]
>> THANK YOU, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN FOR YOUR INDULGENCE.
WE'RE BACK FROM OUR RECESS. READY FOR IT NOW.
MOVING FORWARD, WE'RE ON ITEM NUMBER 6 OF THE HEARINGS.
[6. Development Services - Approve a Use Permit to allow for long-term occupancy of a 12’ x 36’ travel trailer and the associated use of a currently existing nonconforming carport, shed, and deck on a 1.97 acre parcel in the RCU-2A zoning district, subject to the conditions of approval. Project Name: Skinner Travel Trailer Residence Use Permit; Owner/Applicant: Norbert Skinner; APN: 205-15-185; PLA24-000003. The property is located in Wilhoit. (District 1 - Supervisor Oberg)]
DEVELOPMENT SERVICES.APPROVE A USE PERMIT TO ALLOW FOR A LONG-TERM OCCUPANCY OF A 12-FOOT BY 36-FOOT TRAVEL TRAILER AND THE ASSOCIATED USE OF A CURRENTLY EXISTING NON-CONFORMING CARPORT SHED AND DECK ON 1.97 ARKWAY ACRE PARCEL, IN RCU 2A ZONING DISTRICT SUBJECT TO CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL.
PROJECT NAME IS SKINNER, TRAVEL TRAILER RESIDENCE USE PERMIT.
APPLICANT IS MR. NORBERT SKINNER, APN 20515185, PLAT IS PLA24-000003.
THE PROPERTY IS LOCATED IN WIL, SUPERVISOR OBERG'S DISTRICT.
>> YES, MR. CHAIRMAN. I THINK THE PNZ WAS UNANIMOUS ON THIS, AND I THINK WE'VE HAD LETTERS IN SUPPORT, NOTHING IN OPPOSITION, IS THAT CORRECT?
>> THAT'S CORRECT. IT WAS A UNANIMOUS VOTE TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL FOR THE APPLICATION.
NO OPPOSITION HAS BEEN RECEIVED THREE LETTERS OF SUPPORT.
>> I RECOMMEND, CHAIR THAT WE GO AHEAD AND APPROVE THIS TEMPORARY USE PERMIT.
>> SECOND BY MS, MICHAELS, I WOULD GO ALONG WITH THE SUPERVISOR AND HOW MANY IN FAVOR?
>> ALL OF US. UNANIMOUS. THANK YOU.
>> SORRY YOU HAD TO WAIT SO LONG.
>> WELL, IT'LL GET YOU OFF THE HOOK FOR NOW, TOO, SO YOU BETTER COMPLY WITH WHAT THEY ADVISE YOU TO DO.
>> I WANT TO THANK YOU. ALL OF YOU.
BEEN THERE FOR 13 YEARS IN THIS, I THOUGHT THIS WAS TAKEN CARE OF WHEN I FIRST BOUGHT THE PROPERTY.
I HAD GONE THROUGH THE PROCESS, BUT IT DIDN'T GET COMPLETED, I GUESS, AND I DIDN'T KNOW THAT.
>> YEAH. IT HAPPENS HERE A LOT.
>> NUMBER 7, RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF THE ARIZONA DEPARTMENT OF LIQUOR LICENSES,
[7. Development Services - Recommend approval to the Arizona Department of Liquor Licenses and Control of series 12 Restaurant Liquor License Application #295042 without protest, submitted by Brett Mitchell Vibber for The Cordes Diner located at 19780 E. Hitching Post Way, Mayer, AZ 86333. (District 2 - Supervisor Gregory)]
CONTROL OF SERIES 12 RESTAURANT LIQUOR LICENSE APPROVAL WITHOUT PROTEST.THE APPLICATION IS 295042, SUBMITTED BY BRETT MITCHELL VIBER OF THE CORDES DINER LOCATED IN 19780 EAST HITCHING POST WAY, AND MAYER.. SUPERVISOR GREGORY.
>> NO, SIR. WE'VE RECEIVED NO OPPOSITION.
>> WITH THAT, I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE.
>> SECOND THE MOTION. [OVERLAPPING]
>> MOTIONS MADE, SECONDED. ALL IN FAVOR?
>> UNANIMOUS. MOVING ON TO THE COUNTY MANAGER'S REPORT.
[ COUNTY MANAGER'S REPORT Pursuant to A.R.S. §38-431.02(K), the County Manager may present brief summaries of current events but no discussion may occur, and no action may be taken regarding anything that is presented.]
>> GOOD MORNING AGAIN, CHAIRMAN, VICE CHAIRMAN, MEMBERS OF THE BOARD, MAURI THOMPSON, COUNTY MANAGER.
RESPECT OF THE LATE HOUR HERE, I WILL BE VERY BRIEF.
JUST TWO THINGS. THIS MORNING.
THE FIRST IS THE JOINT LEGISLATIVE BUDGET COMMITTEE, MONTHLY FISCAL HIGHLIGHTS FOR MAY.
HOPEFULLY, WERE INCLUDED IN THE AGENDA MATERIALS.
I WOULD JUST NOTE THAT A LITTLE BIT OF GOOD NEWS, APRIL 24, GENERAL FUND REVENUES TOTAL $1.58 BILLION, WHICH IS AN INCREASE OF 1.6 TENTHS PERCENT ABOVE APRIL OF 23, SO WE'RE CONTINUING TO SEE SOME VERY MINOR IMPROVEMENT IN OUR FISCAL OUTLOOK, ALTHOUGH STILL A LONG WAYS TO GO.
THE SECOND ITEM THIS MORNING IS A NEW PIECE, AND AS THEY SAY, CUE THE TAPE.
>> YEAH. THE CLERK'S COMING TO ASSIST.
WE'RE BEGINNING TO FEATURE A PIECE FROM THE YAVAPAI HUMANE SOCIETY. JAMIE?
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>> WELCOME TO YAVAPAI HUMANE SOCIETY.
WE'RE HERE TO SHOWCASE AND INTRODUCE YOU TO ONE OF OUR PRECIOUS PUPS, HEBER.
HEBER IS OUR LONGEST TERM RESIDENT.
HE'S BEEN HERE SINCE AUGUST 23RD OF 2023.
HE'S A HANDSOME, 5.5-YEAR-OLD SHEPHERD MIX, WHO CAN'T WAIT TO FIND HIS FUR-EVER FAMILY.
WHETHER IT'S GOING FOR A WALK, LEARNING NEW THINGS, HANGING OUT WITH YOU OUTSIDE, OR CUDDLING UP WITH YOU.
HE'S SUCH A SWEET BOY WHO JUST NEEDS SOMEONE TO GIVE HIM THE CHANCE OF A NEW LIFE. IS IT YOU? FOR MORE INFORMATION ON THIS SWEET BOY OR ANY OF OUR ANIMALS LOOKING FOR A HOME, VISIT OUR WEBSITE AT YAVAPAIHUMANE.ORG OR GIVE US A CALL AT 928 445 2666.
>> THAT'S THE EXTENT. IF ANYONE'S LOOKING FOR A GOOD COMPANION, HEBER WAS APPARENTLY AVAILABLE. [OVERLAPPING]
>> ASSUMING THE FOLKS ARE BEHIND THE INTEREST ACTUALLY OCCURS AND GET BACK AND THEN WE MIGHT CONSIDER GOING OVER THE OTHER SIDE.
>> THANK YOU, MAURI. CALL THE PUBLIC.
[ CALL TO THE PUBLIC: Individuals may address the Board for up to three (3) minutes on any relevant issue within the Board's jurisdiction. Pursuant to A.R.S. §38-431.01(H), Board members shall not discuss or take action on matters raised during the call to the public. The Board may direct staff to study the matter or direct that the matter be rescheduled for consideration at a later date.]
INDIVIDUALS MAY ADDRESS THE BOARD FOR UP TO THREE MINUTES ON ANY RELEVANT ISSUE WITHIN THE BOARD'S JURISDICTION PURSUANT TO ARS 38-431.01H.BOARD MEMBERS SHALL NOT DISCUSS OR TAKE ACTION ON THE MATTERS RAISED DURING CALL OF THE PUBLIC.
THE BOARD MAY DIRECT STAFF TO STUDY THE MATTER OR DIRECT THAT MATTER TO BE RESCHEDULED FOR CONSIDERATION AT A LATER DATE.
I HAVE ONE GREEN SHEET THAT'S FOR LUCI REYNA WHEAT, WHICH IS TO SPEAK IN REGARDS TO RULES OF ORDER.
>> CHAIRMAN, VICE CHAIR. DID YOU PUSH THE BUTTON?
>> I'LL PUSH THE BUTTON. [LAUGHTER]
>> YOU HAVE THE CLOCK RUNNING?
>> MY NAME IS LUCI REYNA WHEAT.
I'M ALSO THE FIRST VICE CHAIR FOR THE YAVAPAI COUNTY GOP AND THE CANDIDATE FOR THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS FOR DISTRICT 4.
I'VE BEEN READING THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS RULES OF ORDER TO SEE WHAT IT SAYS ABOUT THE PROCESS OF CONDUCTING A PUBLIC MEETING.
WHILE MUCH OF THE PROCESS CONTAINS IT FALLS IN LINE WITH WHAT WE NORMALLY SEE IN THE GOVERNING BODY, IT WAS INTERESTING TO NOTE THAT THERE IS NO PROVISION FOR ANY TWO BOARD MEMBERS TO REQUEST AN ITEM TO BE PLACED ON THE AGENDA FOR PUBLIC DISCUSSION.
OTHER GOVERNING BOARDS ALLOW FOR THE RULE OF TWO, WHICH STATES THAT ANY TWO BOARD MEMBERS MAY PLACE DISCUSSION TOPICS ON A REGULARLY SCHEDULED BOARD MEETING AGENDA.
IT APPEARS TO ME FROM THE READING OF THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS RULE THAT THE CHAIR HAS SOLE AUTHORITY TO DECIDE WHAT IS INCLUDED OR NOT INCLUDED ON THE AGENDA OR REMOVE, MUCH LIKE A MONARCHY.
IN GOVERNING BODIES, I AM ACQUAINTED WITH THIS SOLE AUTHORITY AND IS WIDELY NOT ALLOWED SO THAT DESIRES OF OTHER BOARD MEMBERS CAN BE BROUGHT FORWARD AND PLACED ON PUBLIC MEETING AGENDAS.
I WOULD CERTAINLY HOPE THAT THIS BOARD WILL REVIEW ITS RULE OF ORDERS AND PLACE ON A FUTURE AGENDA A DISCUSSION OF POLICY TO CHANGE THE CURRENT RULES TO ALLOW ANY TWO MEMBERS OF THE YAVAPAI PIKE COUNTY BOARD OF SUPERVISORS TO BRING AN ITEM FORWARD FOR DISCUSSION IN A PUBLIC MEETING.
AS PREVIOUSLY STATED, OTHER GOVERNING BOARDS SUCH AS SCHOOL GOVERNING BOARDS, TOWN, AND CITY COUNCILS, AND OTHER IMPORTANT GOVERNING BODIES ALREADY OBSERVE THIS RULE OF TWO, AND I HOPE THIS BOARD TAKE SIMILAR ACTION SOON BETTER TO SERVE OUR PUBLIC AND ACHIEVE FULL TRANSPARENCY OF ISSUES FACING THE COUNTY.
THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING ME TO BRING THIS IMPORTANT MATTER FORWARD. THAT IS IT.
>> MR. CHAIRMAN, I WOULD LIKE TO.
>> I WON'T DISCUSS NONE OF THAT.
>> I CAN ASK THAT WE RECOMMEND THAT THIS BE BROUGHT FORWARD TO THE STAFF TO BE REVIEWED AT A LATER TIME FOR DISCUSSION.
>> YOU CAN ASK [INAUDIBLE] THAT'S TRUE.
>> WELL, IT'S NOT UP TO ME, BUT I APPRECIATE THAT. THANK YOU.
[LAUGHTER] CHAIRMAN, MEMBERS OF THE BOARD, THE RULES AND THE STATUTE PROVIDE THAT WHILE YOU CAN'T TAKE LEGAL ACTION RELATION TO A COMMENT, THE BOARD CAN REFER IT TO BE EXAMINED BY STAFF OR BE PLACED ON A FUTURE AGENDA FOR DISCUSSION.
THAT'S WHAT'S BEING DISCUSSED AT THIS POINT, WHETHER OR NOT THERE'S DIRECTION FROM THE BOARD TO PLACE IT ON A FUTURE AGENDA, OR WHETHER THERE'S DISCUSSION FROM THE BOARD TO DIRECT IT TO STAFF TO INVESTIGATE WHETHER OR NOT IT SHOULD BE PLACED ON A FUTURE AGENDA.
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>> WE HAVE AGREEMENT? THANK YOU.
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